| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:21 |
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| nacc | it's like pulling teeth with maddawg2 to get the details | 15:43 |
| daftykins | that definitely rings a bell as to one of the more trying best-ignored users | 15:45 |
| === JanC is now known as Guest55200 | ||
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| tgm4883 | "I know I did something I shouldn't have so don't bother telling me that, just tell me how to fix it" | 21:31 |
| nacc | tgm4883: yep, i stopped trying to help them :/ | 21:33 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:33 |
| daftykins | what did this person do? | 21:33 |
| tgm4883 | "hello I was trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10 (don't lecture me please) and the upgrade was interrupted. Now I cannot boot into any OS. However, I can get into grub and a command prompt. This is a lenovo laptop." | 21:33 |
| * daftykins chuckles | 21:34 | |
| DArqueBishop | My official advice would probably be, "Use a live CD to back up your data, and rebuild from scratch." | 21:35 |
| nacc | DArqueBishop: absolutely | 21:36 |
| nacc | esp. given 15.10 goes eol in < 1 month | 21:36 |
| Bashing-om | Panicing, and dread has bad bad side effects .. ignoance we can address .. stupidity I let go ! Just can not fix stupidity . | 21:36 |
| nacc | and who knows what actually works on that upgrade path | 21:36 |
| daftykins | mmm and that direct upgrade must've been achieved through a very bad move | 21:36 |
| daftykins | Bashing-om: well said :) | 21:36 |
| nacc | daftykins: i assume as much (-d flag to various tools, i think) | 21:37 |
| daftykins | or even worse, sources edits D: | 21:38 |
| nacc | yeah :/ | 21:38 |
| dax | and yet people still randomly come out with "but i just change sources.list every time and it works fine!" | 21:39 |
| dax | makes me facepalm | 21:39 |
| tgm4883 | nacc: I don't think the -d would do that | 21:40 |
| daftykins | nah -d would more likely be thinking of 16.10 right now | 21:40 |
| * tgm4883 bets on the sources.list change | 21:40 | |
| daftykins | dax: heh yeah, gotta love the anecdotals | 21:40 |
| daftykins | i don't even believe in upgrades of any kind | 21:40 |
| dax | as i understand it, -d would take you to x or y, not w | 21:40 |
| nacc | tgm4883: i don't think so either, but that's what he claimed | 21:41 |
| nacc | tgm4883: it might have been one of the GUI tools | 21:41 |
| nacc | as opposed to -d explicitly | 21:41 |
| tgm4883 | nacc: pardon me if I don't believe the guy that says "Don't lecture me on not doing the bad things that I did" | 21:41 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:41 |
| nacc | tgm4883: :) | 21:41 |
| daftykins | there's a certain level of <insert your choice of word here> user that reads enough to know not to do it, then does it | 21:42 |
| dax | "knows enough to be dangerous" | 21:42 |
| tgm4883 | If you want to blow up your system, that's fine with me (and a good way to learn things), but don't bother the channel with that | 21:43 |
| DArqueBishop | Personally, I'm of the mindset that if a system is THAT important, I'm upgrading via backing up data and installing a fresh system anyway. | 21:46 |
| nacc | DArqueBishop: well, right, they went from LTS to an arbitrary development release because (iirc) 'some things weren't working' | 21:47 |
| Bashing-om | I will say I learned the most breaking/fixing my system(s). I have progressed to now to the point I no longer break it ! | 21:47 |
| daftykins | i do that for all systems, upgrades aren't worth the hope and pray | 21:47 |
| nacc | DArqueBishop: which to me means it can't be that important of a system :) | 21:48 |
| daftykins | guy about to play tetris blindfolded: www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick | 21:48 |
| DArqueBishop | nacc: sounded more like a "I didn't realize how important this system was" system. ;-) | 21:48 |
| tgm4883 | reminds me of backups | 21:49 |
| tgm4883 | If you don't have 3 copies on 2 different types of media in more than 1 location, then your data isn't important | 21:49 |
| DArqueBishop | tgm4883: right. | 21:50 |
| * DArqueBishop has both local and offsite copies of his backups for his servers. | 21:50 | |
| * nacc just doesn't have that much important stuff :) | 21:50 | |
| DArqueBishop | nacc: I'm anal, plus my dad's business lives and dies off my mail server. | 21:50 |
| nacc | DArqueBishop: wasn't meant as a critique, more just a genuine realization i basically have nothing on my machine(s) i can't recreate easily anymore | 21:51 |
| DArqueBishop | nacc: I didn't take it as such. :-) | 21:52 |
| Bashing-om | As above, I broke it enough to learn to keep backups ! .. Yes I do have as tgm4883 says . Practice, I can re-install in 20 minutes ! | 21:54 |
| daftykins | !info linux-generic xenial | 22:17 |
| ubot5 | linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.28.30 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 11 kB | 22:17 |
| daftykins | !info linux-image-generic xenial | 22:18 |
| ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.28.30 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB | 22:18 |
| daftykins | i thought it had newer than 4.4 o0 | 22:18 |
| Bashing-om | Whoda thunk it - this quick - jon5000 onward and upward to 16.04 . | 23:17 |
| nacc | daftykins: nah, 4.4. in xenial, 4.7/4.8 in yakkety | 23:18 |
| nacc | daftykins: so 16.04.1 hwe will get that stack too, iiuc | 23:18 |
| nacc | but i'm not sure they've published the first yakkety kernels yet (meaning it's still in sync with xenial) | 23:19 |
| daftykins | all the cool kids never touch non-LTS ;) | 23:21 |
| nacc | daftykins: :) | 23:24 |
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