diddledan@swiftkey just tweeted a rather risqué picture00:03
daftykinsanother high profile 'hack' ?00:03
* diddledan /msgs daftykins the link to retain family friendliness00:04
daftykinsyeah that was... wholly wrong00:06
daftykinsof all the things pertaining to emoji, how would you pick that set and not smileys? XD00:07
diddledanaround 30 minutes till launch https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#public01:03
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diploMorning all06:48
imexilMorning. I got a short question regarding python on Ubuntu 16.04. I keep hearing that Python 3 is the default. But on my machine this is simply not the case and it also seems to straight forward to get python 3 setup to be the default. That is without mocking about with changing symlinks which I don't think is the proper way. So what is the issue with Python3 NOT being the default on my macine? Any one got some indicator?07:04
imexil^ I wanted to say that it is NOT straight forward to get Python 3 to the default07:04
davmor2Morning all you funksters08:14
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: I misread that by one letter.08:39
* TwistedLucidity was up far too early08:39
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy THursday, and happy Chocolate Day! 😃  🍫08:43
corenominalChocolate Day?! Really? Best day evar!08:48
popeyyou woke the corenominal08:49
* popey lays a trail of chocolate back to corenominals bed08:49
* corenominal Zzzzz08:51
JamesTaitcorenominal? Did you get lost? 😝09:09
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:10
davmor2JamesTait: the obvious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qp6XhtoEv0 and then the not so much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjAXX2n6_5Q09:14
davmor2JamesTait: not that I've been waiting for Chocolate Day to pull that one out at all you must understand :D09:19
corenominalJamesTait: I did, but I managed to find my way back :)09:28
JamesTaitcorenominal, well played, sir!09:31
corenominalthank you09:32
JamesTaitdavmor2, you too - 4 Non Blondes!09:33
davmor2JamesTait: you have spotify to thank I wanted what's up for the morning head song list and that was in the playlist for that :)09:35
davmor2JamesTait: this is my current favourite though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l409:36
davmor2JamesTait: I kinda want him to do a rendition of stairway to heaven now though :) don't know why but I think it would be awesome09:38
JamesTaitdavmor2, wow! Hard to believe that's the same Disturbed who did https://youtu.be/09LTT0xwdfw09:41
davmor2JamesTait: yeah but look at metalica they do some amazing ballads and then a lot that most definitely aren't :D09:44
JamesTaitdavmor2, you read my mind. 😉09:44
davmor2JamesTait: tonally they are very similar to me09:44
TwistedLucidityDisturbed do good enough covers, their own material tends to be rather lacklustre IMHO09:45
TwistedLucidityAnother decent cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV4oYkIeGJc09:46
JamesTaitTwistedLucidity, not bad at all. ☺09:52
davmor2TwistedLucidity: I think lacklustre is a bit harsh, I think they are a good band rather than a great band, another good band is the verve they had a couple of stratospheric songs then seemed to vanish but the rest of their music is okay it's just not great09:57
davmor2TwistedLucidity: Good bands tend to have moments of brilliance and then everything else goes back to good again09:58
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: Maybe just not to my taste then (although I quite like rock/metal). The one I keep hearing after "Sound of Silence" is "The Light". Urgh.09:58
davmor2TwistedLucidity: yeah as I say it's okay it's not bad it's not good, I prefer down with sickness and a few others they're slightly heavier and faster paced10:00
davmor2TwistedLucidity: this is why they are a good band not a great one they are having to fill and album rather than having too many songs and having to drop some is how it seems,  It's like we have these 4 great songs lets make an album and then the other 8 are just fillers to make up the album10:02
davmor2oh and popey look modern music :P10:03
davmor2popey: admittedly it sounds like it is from the 80's but meh can't have everything :D10:04
popeyI am currently listening to a playlist of very varied music10:08
popeythanks to aq and willcooke10:08
popeyhttp://www.last.fm/user/popeydc see :)10:09
davmor2nespresso capsules have arrived god that's a nice cup of coffee :)10:22
TwistedLucidityNever tried them, have filter and espresso machines downstairs.10:24
davmor21st world problems my Ubuntu mug doesn't fit under it easily10:25
MooDoomorning all10:25
popeyGood call!10:26
* popey gets cappucino from his machine10:26
popeywhile things compile10:26
popey 😃10:26
* TwistedLucidity ponders mentioning Nestle and third world problems; decides not to10:28
davmor2TwistedLucidity: that's what I had the linizio Lungo it's a tiny capsule for a filter blend but it was more to try out the machine10:28
TwistedLuciditypopey: https://www.xkcd.com/303/10:28
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: Can one get generic pods for the Nespresso, or is it DRM'd like some others?10:29
davmor2TwistedLucidity: the machine isn't nestle the first pods were but that was mostly to test the machine there are a whole heap of fair trade etc coffees out there that do pods10:29
TwistedLucidityAh, neato10:29
TwistedLucidityAnnoys me when I can't get the hold of fairtrade (or equivalent) stuff.10:30
davmor2TwistedLucidity: http://www.realcoffee.com/?gclid=CMLim9-S4c0CFRFmGwodJBIJdg you can also get refills and put your own coffee in10:30
davmor2TwistedLucidity: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2057872.m570.l1311.R1.TR3.TRC1.A0.H0.Xrefillable+nes.TRS0&_nkw=refillable+nespresso+capsules&_sacat=010:32
TwistedLucidityDon't have a pod machine and don't have the room in the kitchen for one10:33
TwistedLucidityG/Fs parents do though, I'll have to pass this on10:34
davmor2TwistedLucidity: I got the machine from aldi £50 but it got 8* from two different test sites, only issue is the noise from the pump which I can confirm is quite loud but it is only on for a few seconds so :)10:34
TwistedLucidityAldi/Lidl do some good stuff10:35
davmor2TwistedLucidity: this machine is thin and long10:35
TwistedLucidityWe have no room in the kitchen. Seriously. The person who designed it was a fool. If it wasn't new, we'd have torn it out and replaced it.10:36
davmor2TwistedLucidity: no much wider than a mug and is about a foot long10:36
davmor2TwistedLucidity: http://www.thetestpit.com/2016/02/review-aldi-coffee-specialbuy-range.html10:38
TwistedLucidityDoes it come with a new kitchen? Because if it doesn't, we have no where to put it10:40
TwistedLucidityRoll on the new house and a sane kitchen layout.10:40
TwistedLucidityIt's a large enough room, but it is as if someone set out to make the more useless work surfaces possible.10:41
davmor2TwistedLucidity: it need a plug not a kitchen you could have it anywhere :P10:42
* TwistedLucidity looks around office10:42
Myrtti♥ Moka-pot ♥10:43
davmor2Myrtti: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/222039860097?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=1007249&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-142405561986&adtype=pla&crdt=010:45
popeyTwistedLucidity: mine isn't a nespresso10:49
TwistedLuciditypopey: Never said it was.10:51
davmor2popey: you have a tassimo10:53
popeynever mind10:53
awilkinsPod coffee, boooo11:16
awilkinsAeropress 4tw11:16
awilkinsI tried coldbrew, but a bit too much like rocketfuel for me11:17
davmor2awilkins: the nespresso is basically just filter coffee / espresso without the mess really nice coffee to be fair, the others are a bit hit and miss11:28
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directhexone of the big gaps between nespresso & other pod systems is the water pressure14:58
directhexit's also pretty telling that nespresso just does coffee, whereas tassimo & dolce gusto are happy to pump hot chocolate, tea, and lattes with built-in powdered milk through the same spout14:58
zmoylan-pisome version down the road will also be an ink jet printer... :-)14:59
* popey hugs his dolce gusto15:02
directhexin theory, dolce gusto is nestle's budget brand, and nespresso is their premium brand. but in the UK there's very little price delta between both systems15:03
directhexoh, official nespresso pods are online only, only knock-offs sold in stores. tassimo/dg is *everywhere*15:04
popeyyeah, even the local co-op have dg15:14
daftykinsgood afternoon!15:16
daftykinsi've got a nespresso but don't really feel all that inclined to have such a small volume drink so often15:17
davmor2daftykins: you can get them from the nespresso stores of which there are 6 in London and 3 for the rest of the country15:32
davmor2it is very nice coffee though :)15:33
daftykinsheh, yeah all the recycling centers are in England too15:36
daftykinsso very far out of my reach ;)15:36
davmor2daftykins: however you can get refillable pods for the nespresso :)15:43
daftykinsi would never have the patience for that :D15:43
davmor2popey: say it aint so, say you know starwars16:54
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diddledanwho's knowledgeable about intel cpus these days? skylake i5 vs i7. I'm wondering if the extra moola is worth it to get an i7 vs an i517:42
diddledanwell these benchmarks suggest the two I'm looking at are very similar in performance: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6600K17:55
diddledanso I would think getting the cheaper i5 would be better17:55
diddledanthe only difference I can see is hyperthreading in the i7 which the i5 doesn't have?17:56
daftykinsdouble check any virt tech stuff too, but i'm pretty sure they're the same18:01
daftykinsi actually went i7 6600 non-K, as overclocking is a waste of time - you also have to buy a heatsink with the K18:01
daftykinsnot sure if you do with the i5 K too, might wanna check18:01
diddledanwhere's your preferred place for buying puter bits? I might check amazon for their prime delivery18:04
diddledanoops :-p18:13
diddledanI went with amazon18:13
diddledanI mean, I saved my pocket money and put it under my bed for a rainy day18:14
diddledanI accidentally clicked on the i7 670018:15
diddledanand this mobo http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5480#ov18:15
davmor2diddledan: the rule of thumb is always buy the biggest and best you can afford at the time as it is most likely already out of date but it will at least be supported for the foreseeable future :)18:18
ali1234Z170 is an overclocker motherboard you nkow18:19
ali1234i7 is worth it if you are a developer18:20
ali1234overclocking not so much18:20
ali1234you could get a H170 motherboard instead, for slightly cheaper18:20
diddledanoh well, it's ordered now :-p18:20
ali1234i actually just upgraded last week so i was reading all about this18:20
ali1234the stuff i bought has already gone up nearly 10% in price since i bought it18:20
diddledanbrexit shenanigans?18:21
ali1234i actually got the 6700 and a Z170 motherboard18:21
ali1234but i chose a specific motherboard for it's features18:21
ali1234and known linux support18:21
ali1234then one of my SSDs failed so I RMA'd it... so i'm getting an upgrade to an MX200 for free18:22
ali1234RAM has gone up 25% since last week, lol18:23
diddledanI went for 32GB of DDR418:23
ali1234i paid £101, now it costs £12418:23
ali1234me too18:23
diddledanaah I chose four modules. I don't know there's much difference though18:24
ali1234there isn't18:24
ali1234and 64GB is the max for skylake18:24
diddledantwo modules would mean another two can be added18:24
ali1234i'll probably get another two in a year or so18:25
foobarryanyone nr NW London who likes sci fi want to earn money for talking about sci fi books?18:51
diddledanemoji: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSuVrxxdAi019:14
diddledanhaha. 80s porn still on an old mac: http://gizmodo.com/redditor-gets-old-macintosh-from-craigslist-finds-weir-1783272623?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow19:17
diddledanffs link19:17
daftykinsthat can't be family friendly!19:37
diddledanwow, egypt have just stuck their middle-finger up at the time-keeping community: https://twitter.com/DrDanielASmith/status/75031007060964966419:38
diddledanI wonder how long it'll take for updates to filter through into operating systems19:39
m0nkey_why is mdadm read/write access so slow?19:45
m0nkey_Any tips to boost it's performance19:46
daftykinsconfig details?19:47
m0nkey_just a basic mirror19:47
m0nkey_two drives19:47
daftykinswhat're you seeing?19:48
m0nkey_used this command: mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=mirror --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc19:48
m0nkey_just very poor write speeds19:49
m0nkey_reads are no problem19:49
m0nkey_it's resyncing right now, but before i blew it away and rebuilt it was very slow.19:51
m0nkey_i expect it to be slow now19:51
m0nkey_but i know once it's built, it'll still be slow19:51
m0nkey_OK, resync right now is going around 100000K/sec.. about ~95MB/sec19:54
m0nkey_so that looks normal19:54
m0nkey_but once it's built.. speeds are crappy down to 2-3MB/sec19:54
daftykinsnasty, distro, kernel and file system? also age of these disks?19:54
diddledanthat's serious degradation if it can sync at 95MB19:54
diddledandaftykins: don't you dare!19:55
diddledandaftykins: do NOT touch them!19:55
* daftykins licks his lips19:55
* diddledan mutters angrily about the hand of death19:55
m0nkey_It's a CentOS 6.8 box, because KVM.19:55
diddledanKVM! \o/19:55
* daftykins points to the door :D19:56
diddledankvm works on boobtoo19:56
daftykinsseriously though, the folks in a CentOS channel would surely know of some quirks19:56
diddledanI get the impression it's unrelated to the distro though19:56
m0nkey_I tested with ZFS vdev mirrror, they work fine19:57
m0nkey_good write speeds19:57
m0nkey_even better when I set-up a SSD as a slog19:57
m0nkey_and why is hexchat complaining that all my spelling is wrong19:57
m0nkey_Think my spelling plugin creapped out.19:58
diddledanhmm.. if ZFS works then that suggests the speed is specific to mdraid or the filesystem19:58
m0nkey_it's a ext4 filesystem19:58
diddledanyou could butter it :-p19:58
m0nkey_old-ish kernel.. 2.6.32 .. again, KVM :)19:58
m0nkey_want this box to be stable19:58
m0nkey_unless there's a more up to date kernel for centos19:59
diddledancentos 7 would have a more recent kernel19:59
m0nkey_yeah, i could use centos 720:00
m0nkey_i've always gone centos 6 because it's always just worked for kvm20:01
m0nkey_After installing CentOS7, would you recommend rebuilding the mdadm array?20:04
daftykinsnuke it from orbit.20:09
daftykinssurely you could boot live media of theirs to test, though?20:09
daftykinsno need to reinstall fully just to find out20:10
m0nkey_it's a fairly new box, no vms on it yet20:17
daftykinsmore thinking the RAID could be tested in a live sesh20:19
diddledanpopey: oh that's nice of virgin - you're talking with support who tell you to talk to support?20:49
popeyalso, see other woman who tweeted me with same issue20:50
diddledanpopey: I'm seeing a LOT of packet loss after birmingham20:50
popeyso it's not my cconnection20:50
diddledanlet me screenie for you20:50
popeymy first tweet to them had a screenie of mtr20:51
daftykinsthis file is being uploaded o020:53
* popey phones them20:56
diddledanthere we go, my screenie finally uploaded20:58
apt-get-moodid you install mtr via brew?20:59
daftykinsit's default.20:59
daftykinsoh yeah, dirty mac :)20:59
daftykinsdiddledan: funky subnet!21:00
diddledanyes I used homebrew to get mtr21:07
daftykinsdiddledan: was there any retraction of that iffy swiftkey tweet from last night?21:43
diddledanI didn’t notice21:43
diddledanmicrosoft is getting random: https://channel9.msdn.com/Series/Manifoldjs/Manifoldjs-Bring-Your-Own-Platform22:29
zmoylan-pigotta convince the kids how cool and with it ms are22:44
daftykinsthey really ought to stop trying :)22:45
zmoylan-pithey could allow linux on the xbox...22:49
zmoylan-pithat would show sony... :-P22:49
zmoylan-piand show how much they love linux22:50
diddledanI think my windows 10 is knackered23:48
diddledanit’s stuck having downloaded today’s new insider build and done a couple reboots it’s now sitting with black screen and the spinny white “loading” dots23:49
daftykinsand getting nowhere?23:49
diddledanno evidence23:49
diddledanthe only thing visible is spinning dots23:49
diddledanno progress bar or readout23:49
daftykinsno harm in hitting reset23:49
diddledandone that several times23:50
daftykinsoh dear! you might have to throw on the newest one you can download from media23:50
diddledanwiggling the mouse reveals the pointer. so now I have spinny dots and a pointer. the rest is completely black23:52
daftykinsuninstalling SQL server 2008 from an old server 2003 R2 x64 box, "setup is processing"23:52
daftykins"7 actions have been completed successfully"23:52
daftykinsall i did was run the uninstaller XD23:52

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