| ahoneybun | mariogrip: https://github.com/ahoneybun/uCycle/blob/master/README.md | 00:13 |
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| ahoneybun | lol | 00:13 |
| mariogrip | litte small maybe and favicons :P | 00:14 |
| ahoneybun | testing things lol | 00:14 |
| mariogrip | favicons* | 00:14 |
| mariogrip | yeah | 00:14 |
| ahoneybun | WIP as they say lol | 00:16 |
| ahoneybun | mariogrip: "Contributions to master, excluding merge commits" | 00:59 |
| mariogrip | ahoneybun: what? | 01:01 |
| ahoneybun | that's what the contributor page says lol | 01:01 |
| ahoneybun | either way I just used full size images on my README for uCycle | 01:02 |
| mariogrip | Cool :D | 01:05 |
| ahoneybun | so sharing passwords in the US is now a crime | 01:06 |
| ahoneybun | ... | 01:06 |
| mariogrip | Lol | 01:10 |
| Acou_Bass | imagine how many passwords you just shared by saying the word 'passwords' | 01:18 |
| ahoneybun | XD | 01:22 |
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| ahoneybun | mariogrip: I can't seem to post on the ubport forms | 12:56 |
| ahoneybun | *forums | 12:56 |
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| ioc | hello, would someone be able to provide some support regarding enabling ubuntu specific kernel config options please? | 13:25 |
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| ogra_ | bregma, hmm, i see a purtine app when i search fr "Desktop" on my phone ... in the app store scope it tells me it is installed ... in the app scope i cant see it though | 15:30 |
| bregma | ogra_, that's odd | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | and if i long-press the icon in th app-store search i just get an empty page | 15:31 |
| bregma | ogra_, when you say 'app scope' do you mean the XApp scope? | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | no | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | just the generic apps scope that shows my installed apps | 15:31 |
| bregma | XApps no longer appear in the regular app scope, because they're no regular apps | 15:32 |
| ogra_ | there is no entry for it | 15:32 |
| ogra_ | i'm talking about https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.puritine | 15:32 |
| ogra_ | it isnt in my application list at all | 15:32 |
| bregma | right, they're XApps and you need the XApps scope to see them | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | but going to the app store on my phone it claims it is installed | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | so what is it good for ? | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | i thought thats the app installer | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | and in the Xapps scope i dont seem to have any option to install an app or anything | 15:33 |
| bregma | some day (soon) the apps scope will be an aggregating scope that surfaces and launches native apps, snaps, and XApps, but not today | 15:34 |
| bregma | the Desktop Applications click (formerly known as Puritine) contains 5 XApps preinstalled | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | aha | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | so why claims my phone it is installed (while it isnt) | 15:35 |
| bregma | anything else we don't (yet) support outside of developer preview (CLI) functionality, because there are too many known limitations | 15:35 |
| bregma | if you phone claims Puritine is installed, it's installed | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | well ... | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | i dont have an icon for it | 15:36 |
| bregma | you just can't see the XApps unless you have the XApps (libertine-scope) installed | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | and as i said,, long pressing the icon in the store scope doesnt get m the details page | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | i have the libertine scope installed | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | it only tells me "no XApps available" | 15:37 |
| bregma | is everything up-to-date? | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | well, i'm on rc-proposed, updated this morning to the latest imag | 15:37 |
| dobey | ogra_: puritine app? as in an X app that's installed in a container? | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | e | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | dobey, no ... see the uappexplorer link above | 15:38 |
| dobey | ogra_: oh, puritine isn't an app though is it? | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | there is a purtine click in the store | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | i can find it when searching locall in my app store on the phone | 15:38 |
| dobey | right, but it's not an app or a scope, as i understand | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | it has a green checkmark and says it is installed | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | long pressing it gets me a whitepage | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | opening the libertine scope tells me "No XApps installed" | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | so i guess something is wrong here | 15:39 |
| bregma | defiitely sounds like | 15:39 |
| bregma | ogra_, what version of the Puritine click does your local store say is installed? | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | (... i.e. i should be able to uninstall it trough the store scope ... or at least see the details) | 15:40 |
| dobey | ogra_: the problem is that it's not an app or a scope, i think | 15:40 |
| dobey | ogra_: file a bug agaisnt unity-scope-click | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | bregma, there are no details :) | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | so how would i tell | 15:40 |
| dobey | ogra_: "click list" in terminal :) | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | offt | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | *pfft | 15:41 |
| bregma | funny, I get a blank screen from the store when I go to see details too | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | bregma, 0.1 | 15:41 |
| dobey | really it shouldn't appear in the store scope at all. | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | dobey, well, uappexplorer never lies :P | 15:42 |
| bregma | ogra_, 0.1 is the empty click, which explains why you don;t get any apps in the XApps scope | 15:42 |
| dobey | ogra_: yes it does :) | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | never ever :P | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | bregma, ah, yeah, i see there is 0.12 | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | but indeed i cant install it | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | (since i cant get rid of 0.1) | 15:42 |
| bregma | ogra_, the empty click is shipped in rc-proposed otherwise it would blow the partition size during flash | 15:42 |
| dobey | ogra_: it should appear in updates page in system settings | 15:42 |
| bregma | then you need to update the click from the store | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | right, but the click scope doesnt allow that | 15:43 |
| dobey | click scope doesn't do updates anyway | 15:43 |
| * ogra_ checks system-settings | 15:43 | |
| ogra_ | oh ! | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | yeah, i see a 600MB update | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 15:43 |
| bregma | we ended up in a compromising position because it was so big | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | wht if i dont want it ? | 15:43 |
| bregma | if you don;t want it, don't hit the update button | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | i guess i need to install it first to be able to uninstall it ? | 15:44 |
| dobey | but having it appear in the store scope, and it being a blank page, are bugs | 15:44 |
| dobey | ogra_: no, you won't be able to uninstall it | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | bregma, i dont want to see it every day in myupdates window either :P | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | dobey, that will break as soon as we get notifications for app updates | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | you will constantly get notified | 15:44 |
| dobey | ogra_: lol, great. so in another 4 years when we get that, you can complain about updates all the time :) | 15:45 |
| bregma | I believe it only get into the rc-proposed channel for -pd images, since it's in the custom overlay tarball for only certain devices | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | and if i ever accidentially hit "update all" i *will* get it | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | bregma, i definitely dont use pd | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | not on my phone | 15:45 |
| bregma | it would be nice to have a 'never tell me about updates to this package' in the UI | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | well,, but we dont have it ... and most people do hit "update all" | 15:46 |
| dobey | it would be nice if people filed bugs, when bugs happen :) | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | so they end up with 600MB eaten on their disk | 15:46 |
| * dobey can't fix bugs that aren't reported | 15:46 | |
| ogra_ | dobey, i'll file a bug, i have obviously only discovered it a few mins ago | 15:47 |
| bregma | if you're not using a channel for one of the -pd supported images, the Puritine click should not be in the customer overlay, so someone must have messed up | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | the point is that the concept forces it onto everyone | 15:47 |
| dobey | it's not installed on my mako | 15:47 |
| bregma | we certainly don;t want to have people using older devices installing that click and killing their disk space | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | bregma, i use a MXpro5 that i switched to rc-proposed after finding it unusable for a week ... but i never switched to a diffrent channel like pd on that phone | 15:48 |
| bregma | MXpro5 is a -pd device | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | by default ? | 15:48 |
| bregma | as I understand it, yes | 15:48 |
| dobey | well if you switched channels you would have had to specify the channel used | 15:48 |
| bregma | that's the turbo, right? | 15:48 |
| dobey | so what channel does system-image-cli -i say you are on? | 15:49 |
| dobey | yes, that's turbo | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | bregma, yeah | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | and yes, it says meizu.en-pd :/ | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | so that means i can never again hit update all ... :((( | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | doesnt feel like the concept has been thought through | 15:50 |
| bregma | or just bite the bullet and install the full click, then enjoy running the GIMP on your phone | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | suuure | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | i have a tablet for that stuff :P | 15:51 |
| bregma | you will be the life of the party | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | i prefer to have 20GB of offline maps for uNav eating my space instead | 15:51 |
| dobey | well, so that gives you 44 GB more space, so 600 MB isn't too much :) | 15:52 |
| dobey | just don't install an update on 3G | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | 44GB ? | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | how did you make up that number ? | 15:52 |
| dobey | 64 - 20 ? | 15:53 |
| dobey | isn't turbo 64 GB storage ? | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | nope, 32 | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | with 25G for userdta | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | *userdata | 15:54 |
| dobey | oh, well, then still plenty of space | 15:54 |
| dobey | or just uninstall the thing | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | i dont think i can | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | it comes from the custom tarball | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | (i probably can but it will return) | 15:55 |
| dobey | you can't remove the stuff from /custom, but you can unregister it, and the update won't appear in system settings any more | 15:55 |
| dobey | click unregister com.ubuntu.puritine | 15:56 |
| dobey | or something like that | 15:56 |
| * ogra_ really doesnt see the point in that click ... instead dev time should have been invested in making the frontend to libertine-container-manager better so you can install debs | 15:57 | |
| ogra_ | but hey, i'm just ranting :P | 15:57 |
| * dobey blames brexit | 15:58 | |
| ogra_ | +1 | 15:58 |
| bregma | ogra_, it's a marketing thing, there is no rationalizing it | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | its all popey's fault anyway ... and if not it was davmor2 | 15:58 |
| bregma | definitely popey | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | bregma, yeah, but a marketing thing every user will suffer from | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | at least on turbo | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | heck ... i'll just upgrade it and ignore the wasted space | 15:59 |
| dobey | ogra_: file a bug against ubuntu-ux :) | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | i'll file a bug against canonical-marketing :P | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | subject: "doesn't work !!11eleven" | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | (with no summary .. muhahaha) | 16:00 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: actually I think both of us voted to remain so were in the 48% with a brain | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | davmor2, i know :( | 16:01 |
| * dobey just wants to know how the heck url handling works | 16:02 | |
| Mister_Q | bregma Is there no way to restrict the click to the new devices ? I just installed the libertine-scope and puritine click on krillin, arale and flo (yes I know thats bad, yes I'm used to reflash my devices several times per week ;) ) | 16:06 |
| dobey | no | 16:07 |
| bregma | Mister_Q, as far as we can tell, there is no way to filter available apps in the store based on device | 16:08 |
| davmor2 | dobey: same a baggage handling only with urls, just a guess I could be completely wrong | 16:08 |
| Mister_Q | that's unfortunate :/ | 16:08 |
| * ogra_ watches the update sit at 100% for 10mins now | 16:08 | |
| bregma | Mister_Q, yes, especially when I go to install clicks on the desktop and they fail because they're ARM-only | 16:09 |
| dobey | bregma: apparently that's not why they're failing | 16:09 |
| dobey | bregma: but i'm not sure what the reason is :-/ | 16:09 |
| Mister_Q | bregma, oh wow I didn't even thought about that | 16:09 |
| bregma | dobey, I only get failures when I get an architecture mismatch | 16:10 |
| bregma | could be coincidence, I haven't tried them all | 16:10 |
| dobey | bregma: can you get me the logs from ubuntu-download-manager when you try to install terminal app on x86 in unity8? | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | oh, wow ... it finally finished | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | (would i be a normal user i would have thought it is broken and killed system-settings ... that was about 15min in total for the update ... most of the time just sitting at 100%) | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | bregma, hmm, ii thought you added a fix to have libertine use proper DPI settings ? | 16:12 |
| bregma | ogra_, I think there is a temporary one in the queue, but the real fix is waiting for the XMir dev to come back from vacation | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | uuuh ... and we have matchbox frames now, even in non-desktop mode ? | 16:13 |
| bregma | ogra_, yeah, sorry, it's a workaround to get the OSK working | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | how about havint a freameless theme in use | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | *having | 16:13 |
| bregma | once window management in Unity 8 is working better, the matchbox decs will disappear again | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | or a 1px frame | 16:14 |
| ogra_ | ok | 16:14 |
| bregma | dobey, where are the logs from ubuntu-download-manager saved? | 16:14 |
| dobey | bregma: ~/.cache/ubuntu-download-manager/ iirc | 16:15 |
| bregma | dobey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18796359/ | 16:17 |
| bregma | and it might be a good idea to add logrotation or something to those logs | 16:17 |
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| dobey | ok, hmm, why is it downloading the armhf click instead of the old multi click then. | 16:21 |
| dobey | bregma: thanks | 16:30 |
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| timeax | Hello peopls | 17:13 |
| timeax | Hi mariogrip are you online? | 17:14 |
| taiebot | Am i right to believe that OTA-13 will bring some significant performance improvement. I mean the UITK update OTA 13. | 19:48 |
| dobey | ota12 not even released yet. don't know what will make it into 13 yet | 19:54 |
| taiebot | dobey: it's all here https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/ | 19:59 |
| dobey | taiebot: don't misinterpret that | 19:59 |
| dobey | things being tested doesn't necessarily mean they'll land in time for a particular OTA | 20:00 |
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| ahoneybun | mm odd my SIM card does not work in my N4 | 22:32 |
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