[00:13] mariogrip: https://github.com/ahoneybun/uCycle/blob/master/README.md [00:13] lol [00:14] litte small maybe and favicons :P [00:14] testing things lol [00:14] favicons* [00:14] yeah [00:16] WIP as they say lol [00:59] mariogrip: "Contributions to master, excluding merge commits" [01:01] ahoneybun: what? [01:01] that's what the contributor page says lol [01:02] either way I just used full size images on my README for uCycle [01:05] Cool :D [01:06] so sharing passwords in the US is now a crime [01:06] ... [01:10] Lol [01:18] imagine how many passwords you just shared by saying the word 'passwords' [01:22] XD === ljp is now known as lpotter === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === salem_ is now known as _salem === zsombi_ is now known as zsombi === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === Isla_de_Muerte is now known as NwS === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:56] mariogrip: I can't seem to post on the ubport forms [12:56] *forums === dpm is now known as dpm-bbiab [13:25] hello, would someone be able to provide some support regarding enabling ubuntu specific kernel config options please? === dpm-bbiab is now known as dpm === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [15:30] bregma, hmm, i see a purtine app when i search fr "Desktop" on my phone ... in the app store scope it tells me it is installed ... in the app scope i cant see it though [15:31] ogra_, that's odd [15:31] and if i long-press the icon in th app-store search i just get an empty page [15:31] ogra_, when you say 'app scope' do you mean the XApp scope? [15:31] no [15:31] just the generic apps scope that shows my installed apps [15:32] XApps no longer appear in the regular app scope, because they're no regular apps [15:32] there is no entry for it [15:32] i'm talking about https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.puritine [15:32] it isnt in my application list at all [15:33] right, they're XApps and you need the XApps scope to see them [15:33] but going to the app store on my phone it claims it is installed [15:33] so what is it good for ? [15:33] i thought thats the app installer [15:33] and in the Xapps scope i dont seem to have any option to install an app or anything [15:34] some day (soon) the apps scope will be an aggregating scope that surfaces and launches native apps, snaps, and XApps, but not today [15:35] the Desktop Applications click (formerly known as Puritine) contains 5 XApps preinstalled [15:35] aha [15:35] so why claims my phone it is installed (while it isnt) [15:35] anything else we don't (yet) support outside of developer preview (CLI) functionality, because there are too many known limitations [15:36] if you phone claims Puritine is installed, it's installed [15:36] well ... [15:36] i dont have an icon for it [15:36] you just can't see the XApps unless you have the XApps (libertine-scope) installed [15:36] and as i said,, long pressing the icon in the store scope doesnt get m the details page [15:36] i have the libertine scope installed [15:37] it only tells me "no XApps available" [15:37] is everything up-to-date? [15:37] well, i'm on rc-proposed, updated this morning to the latest imag [15:37] ogra_: puritine app? as in an X app that's installed in a container? [15:37] e [15:38] dobey, no ... see the uappexplorer link above [15:38] ogra_: oh, puritine isn't an app though is it? [15:38] there is a purtine click in the store [15:38] i can find it when searching locall in my app store on the phone [15:38] right, but it's not an app or a scope, as i understand [15:38] it has a green checkmark and says it is installed [15:38] long pressing it gets me a whitepage [15:39] opening the libertine scope tells me "No XApps installed" [15:39] so i guess something is wrong here [15:39] defiitely sounds like [15:40] ogra_, what version of the Puritine click does your local store say is installed? [15:40] (... i.e. i should be able to uninstall it trough the store scope ... or at least see the details) [15:40] ogra_: the problem is that it's not an app or a scope, i think [15:40] ogra_: file a bug agaisnt unity-scope-click [15:40] bregma, there are no details :) [15:40] so how would i tell [15:41] ogra_: "click list" in terminal :) [15:41] offt [15:41] *pfft [15:41] funny, I get a blank screen from the store when I go to see details too [15:41] bregma, 0.1 [15:41] really it shouldn't appear in the store scope at all. [15:42] dobey, well, uappexplorer never lies :P [15:42] ogra_, 0.1 is the empty click, which explains why you don;t get any apps in the XApps scope [15:42] ogra_: yes it does :) [15:42] never ever :P [15:42] bregma, ah, yeah, i see there is 0.12 [15:42] but indeed i cant install it [15:42] (since i cant get rid of 0.1) [15:42] ogra_, the empty click is shipped in rc-proposed otherwise it would blow the partition size during flash [15:42] ogra_: it should appear in updates page in system settings [15:42] then you need to update the click from the store [15:43] right, but the click scope doesnt allow that [15:43] click scope doesn't do updates anyway [15:43] * ogra_ checks system-settings [15:43] oh ! [15:43] yeah, i see a 600MB update [15:43] hmm [15:43] we ended up in a compromising position because it was so big [15:43] wht if i dont want it ? [15:44] if you don;t want it, don't hit the update button [15:44] i guess i need to install it first to be able to uninstall it ? [15:44] but having it appear in the store scope, and it being a blank page, are bugs [15:44] ogra_: no, you won't be able to uninstall it [15:44] bregma, i dont want to see it every day in myupdates window either :P [15:44] dobey, that will break as soon as we get notifications for app updates [15:44] you will constantly get notified [15:45] ogra_: lol, great. so in another 4 years when we get that, you can complain about updates all the time :) [15:45] I believe it only get into the rc-proposed channel for -pd images, since it's in the custom overlay tarball for only certain devices [15:45] and if i ever accidentially hit "update all" i *will* get it [15:45] bregma, i definitely dont use pd [15:45] not on my phone [15:46] it would be nice to have a 'never tell me about updates to this package' in the UI [15:46] well,, but we dont have it ... and most people do hit "update all" [15:46] it would be nice if people filed bugs, when bugs happen :) [15:46] so they end up with 600MB eaten on their disk [15:46] * dobey can't fix bugs that aren't reported [15:47] dobey, i'll file a bug, i have obviously only discovered it a few mins ago [15:47] if you're not using a channel for one of the -pd supported images, the Puritine click should not be in the customer overlay, so someone must have messed up [15:47] the point is that the concept forces it onto everyone [15:47] it's not installed on my mako [15:47] we certainly don;t want to have people using older devices installing that click and killing their disk space [15:48] bregma, i use a MXpro5 that i switched to rc-proposed after finding it unusable for a week ... but i never switched to a diffrent channel like pd on that phone [15:48] MXpro5 is a -pd device [15:48] by default ? [15:48] as I understand it, yes [15:48] well if you switched channels you would have had to specify the channel used [15:48] that's the turbo, right? [15:49] so what channel does system-image-cli -i say you are on? [15:49] yes, that's turbo [15:49] bregma, yeah [15:49] and yes, it says meizu.en-pd :/ [15:50] so that means i can never again hit update all ... :((( [15:50] doesnt feel like the concept has been thought through [15:50] or just bite the bullet and install the full click, then enjoy running the GIMP on your phone [15:50] suuure [15:51] i have a tablet for that stuff :P [15:51] you will be the life of the party [15:51] i prefer to have 20GB of offline maps for uNav eating my space instead [15:52] well, so that gives you 44 GB more space, so 600 MB isn't too much :) [15:52] just don't install an update on 3G [15:52] 44GB ? [15:52] how did you make up that number ? [15:53] 64 - 20 ? [15:53] isn't turbo 64 GB storage ? [15:53] nope, 32 [15:54] with 25G for userdta [15:54] *userdata [15:54] oh, well, then still plenty of space [15:54] or just uninstall the thing [15:54] i dont think i can [15:54] it comes from the custom tarball [15:55] (i probably can but it will return) [15:55] you can't remove the stuff from /custom, but you can unregister it, and the update won't appear in system settings any more [15:56] click unregister com.ubuntu.puritine [15:56] or something like that [15:57] * ogra_ really doesnt see the point in that click ... instead dev time should have been invested in making the frontend to libertine-container-manager better so you can install debs [15:57] but hey, i'm just ranting :P [15:58] * dobey blames brexit [15:58] +1 [15:58] ogra_, it's a marketing thing, there is no rationalizing it [15:58] its all popey's fault anyway ... and if not it was davmor2 [15:58] definitely popey [15:58] bregma, yeah, but a marketing thing every user will suffer from [15:58] at least on turbo [15:59] heck ... i'll just upgrade it and ignore the wasted space [15:59] ogra_: file a bug against ubuntu-ux :) [15:59] i'll file a bug against canonical-marketing :P [16:00] subject: "doesn't work !!11eleven" [16:00] (with no summary .. muhahaha) [16:00] ogra_: actually I think both of us voted to remain so were in the 48% with a brain [16:01] davmor2, i know :( [16:02] * dobey just wants to know how the heck url handling works [16:06] bregma Is there no way to restrict the click to the new devices ? I just installed the libertine-scope and puritine click on krillin, arale and flo (yes I know thats bad, yes I'm used to reflash my devices several times per week ;) ) [16:07] no [16:08] Mister_Q, as far as we can tell, there is no way to filter available apps in the store based on device [16:08] dobey: same a baggage handling only with urls, just a guess I could be completely wrong [16:08] that's unfortunate :/ [16:08] * ogra_ watches the update sit at 100% for 10mins now [16:09] Mister_Q, yes, especially when I go to install clicks on the desktop and they fail because they're ARM-only [16:09] bregma: apparently that's not why they're failing [16:09] bregma: but i'm not sure what the reason is :-/ [16:09] bregma, oh wow I didn't even thought about that [16:10] dobey, I only get failures when I get an architecture mismatch [16:10] could be coincidence, I haven't tried them all [16:10] bregma: can you get me the logs from ubuntu-download-manager when you try to install terminal app on x86 in unity8? [16:10] oh, wow ... it finally finished [16:11] (would i be a normal user i would have thought it is broken and killed system-settings ... that was about 15min in total for the update ... most of the time just sitting at 100%) [16:12] bregma, hmm, ii thought you added a fix to have libertine use proper DPI settings ? [16:13] ogra_, I think there is a temporary one in the queue, but the real fix is waiting for the XMir dev to come back from vacation [16:13] uuuh ... and we have matchbox frames now, even in non-desktop mode ? [16:13] ogra_, yeah, sorry, it's a workaround to get the OSK working [16:13] how about havint a freameless theme in use [16:13] *having [16:13] once window management in Unity 8 is working better, the matchbox decs will disappear again [16:14] or a 1px frame [16:14] ok [16:14] dobey, where are the logs from ubuntu-download-manager saved? [16:15] bregma: ~/.cache/ubuntu-download-manager/ iirc [16:17] dobey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18796359/ [16:17] and it might be a good idea to add logrotation or something to those logs === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [16:21] ok, hmm, why is it downloading the armhf click instead of the old multi click then. [16:30] bregma: thanks === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [17:13] Hello peopls [17:14] Hi mariogrip are you online? [19:48] Am i right to believe that OTA-13 will bring some significant performance improvement. I mean the UITK update OTA 13. [19:54] ota12 not even released yet. don't know what will make it into 13 yet [19:59] dobey: it's all here https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/ [19:59] taiebot: don't misinterpret that [20:00] things being tested doesn't necessarily mean they'll land in time for a particular OTA === _MiW is now known as MiW [22:32] mm odd my SIM card does not work in my N4