| daftykins | diddledan: wutchu gonna do? :D | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| diddledan | donno yet | 00:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | reinstall from windowns 3.0 install disks and upgrade till you get back to win10? :-P | 00:05 |
| daftykins | everyone knows upgrades don't work! :D | 00:11 |
| diddledan | question is do you go 98 -> me -> xp or 98 -> 2000 -> xp | 00:12 |
| diddledan | or do you do some weird 98 -> me -> 2000 -> xp? | 00:12 |
| diddledan | or is nt3.51 included? | 00:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think you can go winme -> xp | 00:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | i seem to remember doing that at least once | 00:14 |
| diddledan | you _can_ but which is the most comprehensive? | 00:14 |
| daftykins | quite looking forward to the anniversary release | 00:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | a windows 2.0 theme with windows 3.0 uaes replacing blue screen of death. and clippy everywhere... | 00:25 |
| daftykins | ooh special new stuff i haven't read about ;D | 00:25 |
| diddledan | looks like my order got split-up - only the cpu is arriving today | 02:54 |
| diddledan | Mobo appears to be scheduled for saturday (tomoz) | 02:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | good to know, other wise you'd think you ordered the wrong sized motherboard... :-P | 03:12 |
| diddledan | Yeesh, delivery drivers have to be out early - my parcel has already left the depot | 03:41 |
| m0nkey_ | I'm out. G'night all | 03:41 |
| diddledan | nn | 03:41 |
| diddledan | I’m off in a mo too | 03:41 |
| * zmoylan-pi strums the banjo to help people sleep | 03:54 | |
| MooDoo | morning all | 05:08 |
| mappps | hi | 05:39 |
| corenominal | good morning :) | 06:57 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:04 |
| foobarry | i appear to have forgotten how to archive mail in thundebird | 08:14 |
| foobarry | ah, there's a button. | 08:15 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:34 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Blueberry Day! 😃 | 09:05 |
| * awilkins advances a fringe theory on where blueberries come from http://bluebuddies.com/Smurf_Picture_and_Files/00000002/Clumsy_Smurf_Blueberries.jpg | 09:19 | |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQkDOs-EtdU :D | 09:26 |
| JamesTait | awilkins, I think I just went off blueberries. | 09:27 |
| foobarry | guys, rmeber the imgur chat yesterday | 13:09 |
| foobarry | or day before. firefox issues drag drop etc | 13:09 |
| foobarry | i sent them a mail, they replied | 13:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | it started 'wow we still have users...' :-P | 13:11 |
| foobarry | http://imgur.com/beta/enable | 13:13 |
| foobarry | fixes it and makes it super fast | 13:15 |
| diplo | Good work imgur :) | 13:16 |
| === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka | ||
| diddledan | davmor2: is there some kind of rule 34 over songs? | 17:55 |
| diddledan | I mean a song about blueberries?! | 17:56 |
| diddledan | you’re some kind of oracle | 17:56 |
| diddledan | in other news my cpu arrived | 17:56 |
| daftykins | wutcha pick in the end? | 17:56 |
| diddledan | the heatsink they ship with these things is slimline in the extreme | 17:56 |
| daftykins | zomg i fixed that graphics card! \o/ maybe | 17:56 |
| diddledan | ooh | 17:57 |
| diddledan | I got the i7 6700 | 17:57 |
| diddledan | (Non-K) | 17:57 |
| daftykins | yay CPU buddies | 17:57 |
| diddledan | the mobo comes tomorrow | 17:57 |
| daftykins | mine is mostly idling right now, showing 27 deg C across 3 of 4 cores | 17:57 |
| daftykins | though i own arctic silver 5 i just left it stock with the paste it has on it :) | 17:58 |
| diddledan | https://press.avast.com/en-gb/avast-announces-agreement-to-acquire-avg-for-13b | 18:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | i still have an avg t-shirt and messenger bag i got from a days training i got a few moons back | 18:07 |
| daftykins | quite the surprise to me that one | 18:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | if i put my mind to it i could probably rustle up the original northon anti virus we used on 5.25" floppies though it might take a week or so to dig them out... :-) | 18:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | *norton | 18:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | when all you had to worry about was the stoned virus... | 18:10 |
| daftykins | and now it's all web based malware that's everyones problem! | 18:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'm sure the problem will be licked when it's all win10 embedded devices... | 18:13 |
| daftykins | how about all those insecure SBCs out there? :D | 18:14 |
| daftykins | (single board computer) | 18:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | nah, the rasp pis crash and corrupt their memory cards before that happens... :-) | 18:14 |
| daftykins | of course! | 18:17 |
| daftykins | check out this mobo that had the incredibly huge Scythe Mugen heatsink on for several years: http://i.imgur.com/R76mL5O.jpg | 18:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | did you have to saw a hole in the pc case for the heatsink to stick out of? :-) | 18:20 |
| daftykins | i bought this £20 case and no joke the top of the heatpipes come to within millimetres of the side panel XD | 18:20 |
| daftykins | threading the board inside to fit it is quite challenging, too | 18:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | i have cut a fair few chunks out of my hands running cables inside pc cases that assumed you were never going to add so much as a second hard drive | 18:21 |
| diddledan | ditto | 18:22 |
| diddledan | I hate pressed metal | 18:22 |
| daftykins | i used to consider it a failed build if there wasn't at least some blood loss XD | 18:22 |
| diddledan | lol | 18:22 |
| diddledan | stings when you slice your fingers tho | 18:22 |
| daftykins | well this really is odd, in this PC the PSU only has one PCI-Express graphics (PEG) power connector - so i had to fish out a 2 x molex to PEG adapter to drive that old banana 560Ti of mine - yet in here it works just fine | 18:23 |
| diddledan | I like to ensure the case has a good amount of dust to glob onto your bloodied fingers too | 18:23 |
| daftykins | i'm gonna transplant it onto the board it was corrupting the BIOS of in a minute and see if it still performs that trick | 18:23 |
| diddledan | daftykins: if it isn’t a bent gfx you have a bent mobo! what are you gonna bend next?! | 18:35 |
| daftykins | :) | 18:35 |
| daftykins | diddledan: your disks! | 18:35 |
| diddledan | better not! | 18:35 |
| diddledan | my new mobo will support m.2! I want a new SSD now! | 18:36 |
| daftykins | oh are you not doing that at the same time? it's all about the 256GB samsung 950 Pro | 18:36 |
| diddledan | a full-speed pcie one, not a sata one, obv | 18:37 |
| daftykins | yus | 18:37 |
| daftykins | 2.1GB/sec read here :D | 18:37 |
| diddledan | the board has two m.2 ports so I could do a nice raid0 | 18:37 |
| diddledan | 4.2GB/s :-p | 18:37 |
| diddledan | I donno what overheard raiding it would have actually | 18:38 |
| diddledan | might get better reads off raid1 than. 0 | 18:38 |
| daftykins | i'd say both would be stupid | 18:39 |
| diddledan | stupid is as stupid does | 18:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | are you a qualifed microsoft engineer? :-P | 18:39 |
| daftykins | is there a cert on bending? :> | 18:40 |
| diddledan | No.I guess that would be a proof of stupidity? | 18:40 |
| daftykins | fully qualified in bending | 18:41 |
| daftykins | Lecturer: Bender Bending Rodriguez | 18:41 |
| diddledan | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Bender_Rodriguez.png | 18:41 |
| diddledan | you beat me | 18:42 |
| daftykins | :D | 18:42 |
| daftykins | if you killed an HDD or two i'd swear we were separated at birth! | 18:42 |
| diddledan | I’ve got some older ones that are knackered | 18:43 |
| diddledan | I even wrote on them to stop me trying to use them again :-p | 18:43 |
| diddledan | because obviously I _have_ tried using them multiple times since they died | 18:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | i write on them with a sharpie i always keep on me | 18:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | a date and serial no of pc they came from... ususally enough for my notes | 18:44 |
| daftykins | :) | 18:45 |
| daftykins | i just write 'DEAD' then make a Jenga set | 18:45 |
| diddledan | does anyone know of an offline personal wiki thing that will also upload to a git repo? | 18:45 |
| diddledan | daftykins: HDDs stack well don’t they! | 18:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | i have tried so many wikis that i can't remember. now i just use a text file on dropbox and add hashtags per entry for finding stuff | 18:46 |
| daftykins | what's the use-case? | 18:47 |
| diddledan | I was thinking I’d like to write down some stuff like backup-restore procedures for different machines, procedures for gentoo maintenance :-p | 18:49 |
| diddledan | basically stuff that is only really important to me but that I’d like written down | 18:50 |
| diddledan | one suggestion on wikipedia is “emacs" | 18:52 |
| * diddledan gagas | 18:52 | |
| diddledan | Gags* | 18:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | just another os to learn :-) | 18:52 |
| daftykins | wow, pulled PSU power again and it's confirmed - that 560Ti just isn't a happy camper | 18:52 |
| diddledan | another suggestion is “vim" | 18:52 |
| diddledan | methinks people don’t get ease-of-use | 18:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | i like vim, i use it a fair bit... but can be an acquired taste | 18:53 |
| diddledan | I love the power of vim but I don’t use it enough to remember everything | 18:53 |
| diddledan | so I end-up having to relearn all the time | 18:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | vim does have a very good outliner so that you can fold a document into sections based on topics | 18:54 |
| daftykins | i've been using dropbox for notes like that, neat to have credentials or client configs like say, a devices IP to hand | 18:54 |
| daftykins | i used to keep it all in my head but unfortunately the knock to the head seems to have shaken some loose ;) | 18:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | just mark the document favourite on dropbox and it'll sync anytime it changes | 18:55 |
| daftykins | wat? that's the default | 19:00 |
| daftykins | just saying the ol' grey matter can't hold it anymore | 19:00 |
| === brmbrmca1 is now known as brmbrmcar | ||
| daftykins | hah yeah, RIP old card, she still screws up | 19:02 |
| diddledan | :-( | 19:05 |
| daftykins | pulled the mains out of the PSU in that machine, nipped out the room for a mo... plug it back in, fails to POST once more | 19:11 |
| daftykins | flick the rocker off, unplug ATX power from the mobo, back in and she boots with a reset CMOS | 19:11 |
| daftykins | somehow it trips up mobo BIOS' from being a wonky card o0 | 19:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | ooops. http://www.csoonline.com/article/3093016/security/apple-devices-held-for-ransom-rumors-claim-40m-icloud-accounts-hacked.html#tk.twt_cso | 19:12 |
| daftykins | no way! | 19:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | way | 19:14 |
| daftykins | woohoo this'll wipe that smug look off their faces :> | 19:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | no, apple users are used to paying so it's merely apple malware requiring cash... :-P | 19:14 |
| daftykins | >:) | 19:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | my dumbphone feels left out with all this hacking... :-) | 19:26 |
| daftykins | and my nexus devices | 19:27 |
| daftykins | looked like that one amounts to bad and reused passwords again though, so no biggy | 19:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | there is also some android malware going around a few million devices too | 19:27 |
| daftykins | yes but it's from a third party app store | 19:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | 20:24 | |
| m0nkey_ | Attention Apple users. Your account may have been compromised (rumor at this time) .. https://it.slashdot.org/story/16/07/08/2011205/apple-devices-held-for-ransom-rumors-claim-40m-icloud-accounts-hacked-apple-related-forums-compromised | 20:26 |
| popey | bet the apple ids have just been where forum users had the same user/password combo | 20:38 |
| popey | SebthreeBQM10HD: did you know that when you join, you post a blank line, every time? | 20:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | not a biggie, apple has agreed to issue every iphone user a new apple id and fingerprints... just drop into your apple centre and they'll laser etch new fingerprints on. for a large fee they'll supply local anaesthetic | 20:39 |
| popey | :) | 20:40 |
| ali1234 | it's only a matter of time before a largecompany gets seriously compromised | 20:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | or more accurately we get to hear about it :-) | 20:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | popey, h eh h eh not always :d | 20:42 |
| * daftykins nods | 21:00 | |
| daftykins | yep, always :P | 21:00 |
| * SebthreeBQM10HD smacks daftykins around with a Windows ME CD ! | 21:03 | |
| daftykins | Me! | 21:03 |
| * SebthreeBQM10HD and throws some DOS discs at daftykins as well :d | 21:03 | |
| daftykins | come now, diskettes! | 21:04 |
| popey | i installed windows me recently in a vm for lulz | 21:04 |
| popey | amazing how little works now | 21:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | popey, what like the Internet :D ? | 21:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | to be fair popey little worked in me then either... :-P | 21:05 |
| daftykins | every other release rule! :D | 21:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | popey, oh nice just seen and read a Nexdock update in my emails :) | 21:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | popey, so should have one shipped at the end of August it seems, maybe sooner | 21:09 |
| daftykins | neat, apache's mod_evasive seems quite useful for those naughty wordpress xmlrpc.php hammering scamps | 21:38 |
| daftykins | essentially it's like a built in fail2ban for apache | 21:39 |
| daftykins | libapache2-mod-evasive :) | 21:39 |
| daftykins | hmm now if only i can work out how to configure it so it runs properly actually | 21:45 |
| diddledan | FIXED THE FLIPPER! | 21:46 |
| diddledan | (my windows) | 21:47 |
| diddledan | I had to hack-in and remove duetdisplay | 21:47 |
| daftykins | duet wat | 21:49 |
| diddledan | duetdisplay.com | 21:49 |
| daftykins | when you first mentioned it i was gonna suggest graphics drivers since they did that to me with the preview builds, but that was long ago | 21:50 |
| diddledan | I had to force it into safemode by resetting the system twice before it got to the black screen with the dots but after the logo displayed. then I needed to enable msi service (used this: http://windowsitpro.com/windows/jsi-tip-9233-safemsiexe-freeware-starts-windows-installer-safe-mode) to be able to uninstall anything | 21:52 |
| daftykins | that duet thing, must only be good for static text or things that don't update often? | 21:54 |
| diddledan | I haven't tried video. only just installed it :-p | 21:55 |
| daftykins | ah | 21:55 |
| daftykins | and you borked it! :D | 21:55 |
| diddledan | yeah. question is: was the borkage because it was installed, or was it because I hadn't rebooted between installing and doing the new build installation | 21:56 |
| daftykins | ooh my | 21:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | http://liliputing.com/2016/07/star-cloud-pcg03u-compact-ubuntu-pc-90.html i likes me a small pc... :-) | 22:02 |
| diddledan | I’m not going to read that. the page started playing noise at me | 22:03 |
| daftykins | bay trail is a bit old now | 22:03 |
| daftykins | i'm about to give away core 2 duos with 4GB RAM, that kinda thing is veeeeery basic | 22:03 |
| * diddledan pets the i7 on his desk waiting for mobo | 22:04 | |
| diddledan | skylake ftw | 22:04 |
| * zmoylan-pi is currently slumming it on ancient 1gb netbook till i check over my 4gb lenovo laptop when i get a chance | 22:05 | |
| zmoylan-pi | i do cheat... i offload the cpu intensive tasks to my rasp pi b :-D | 22:06 |
| diddledan | not even b+? | 22:07 |
| diddledan | I need many ram | 22:07 |
| daftykins | pfft, that's not an intensive task if a Pi can do it ;) | 22:07 |
| diddledan | much cpu | 22:08 |
| diddledan | wow | 22:08 |
| daftykins | ugh i can't get mod_evasive to work properly | 22:08 |
| diddledan | Mod_evasive: for when you want your webserver to pretend it doesn’t know what you’re asking about | 22:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | i do have a pi ii but haven't set i up yet as the original pi b just keeps going... | 22:08 |
| daftykins | diddledan: yeah, you ever touched it? | 22:08 |
| diddledan | nope | 22:09 |
| diddledan | I want my server to be honest | 22:09 |
| daftykins | the test script works for me on localhost but it does nothing with me testing :/ | 22:09 |
| diddledan | I guess if the FBI come calling it’ll grass me out | 22:09 |
| daftykins | well you say that but this is the one that gets wordpress' xmlrpc.php hammered many times per second from random IPs | 22:09 |
| diddledan | aah | 22:09 |
| daftykins | maybe mod_evasive depends on mod_security? | 22:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's why you run everything on pi's. 1) cheap to replace 2) the press conference looks terrible with the seized pi's as evidence :-P | 22:10 |
| diddledan | if you’re not using any form of remoting you _could_ just block all access to xmlrpc.php but some stuff does depend on it, e.g. jetpack plugin | 22:10 |
| daftykins | not sure that they'd care about that really, i was hoping this would work since they could move onto general accesses | 22:11 |
| daftykins | there's a 195. IP hammering it again right now | 22:11 |
| daftykins | multiple per second! | 22:11 |
| diddledan | yeouch | 22:11 |
| diddledan | why do they like you so much? | 22:12 |
| daftykins | well not me, i think they're infected machines that like to hang onto a given host once they've found it runs wordpress - and keep trying to exploit it | 22:13 |
| diddledan | couple of off-the-wall docker presentations here, including updating a drone while it’s in flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75vm6rRb6K0 | 22:13 |
| === shock is now known as Guest528 | ||
| daftykins | diddledan: having said that, i can't get this swine to work - so i've created a couple o' .htaccess and we'll see what it does! | 22:30 |
| daftykins | very irritating when something doesn't work with no obvious reason why | 22:31 |
| evilchristel | 6/5 | 22:32 |
| daftykins | 120%? :) | 22:32 |
| daftykins | starts working after i remove it, wat | 22:46 |
| daftykins | diddledan: how can you confirm a .htaccess is working o0 | 23:05 |
| m0nkey_ | "AllowOverride All" in the Directory or Location directive? | 23:20 |
| daftykins | it was, yeah - but still seemed to be getting ignored | 23:26 |
| daftykins | i put the <Files filetoblock> directive directly in the vhosts in the end | 23:27 |
| m0nkey_ | God damn it | 23:54 |
| m0nkey_ | The ONE YEAR I didn't plan on going to Montreal Comiccon is when they have actors from the TV series Firefly | 23:55 |
| m0nkey_ | I have a book full of the scripts, etc. that needs to be signed! | 23:55 |
| m0nkey_ | Even Alfonso Ribeiro will be there! DAMN IT | 23:56 |
| m0nkey_ | Kate Mulgrew (Cpt. Janeway), Brent Spiner (Cmd. Data), Nichelle Nichols... !!! | 23:58 |
| m0nkey_ | That being said, I did sit only a couple of feet away from the TNG cast last year. | 23:59 |
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