[00:04] <daftykins> diddledan: wutchu gonna do? :D
[00:04] <diddledan> donno yet
[00:05] <zmoylan-pi> reinstall from windowns 3.0 install disks and upgrade till you get back to win10? :-P
[00:11] <daftykins> everyone knows upgrades don't work! :D
[00:12] <diddledan> question is do you go 98 -> me -> xp or 98 -> 2000 -> xp
[00:12] <diddledan> or do you do some weird 98 -> me -> 2000 -> xp?
[00:13] <diddledan> or is nt3.51 included?
[00:13] <zmoylan-pi> i think you can go winme -> xp
[00:14] <zmoylan-pi> i seem to remember doing that at least once
[00:14] <diddledan> you _can_ but which is the most comprehensive?
[00:22] <daftykins> quite looking forward to the anniversary release
[00:25] <zmoylan-pi> a windows 2.0 theme with windows 3.0 uaes replacing blue screen of death.  and clippy everywhere...
[00:25] <daftykins> ooh special new stuff i haven't read about ;D
[02:54] <diddledan> looks like my order got split-up - only the cpu is arriving today
[02:55] <diddledan> Mobo appears to be scheduled for saturday (tomoz)
[03:12] <zmoylan-pi> good to know, other wise you'd think you ordered the wrong sized motherboard... :-P
[03:41] <diddledan> Yeesh, delivery drivers have to be out early - my parcel has already left the depot
[03:41] <m0nkey_> I'm out. G'night all
[03:41] <diddledan> nn
[03:41] <diddledan> I’m off in a mo too
[03:54]  * zmoylan-pi strums the banjo to help people sleep
[05:08] <MooDoo> morning all
[05:39] <mappps> hi
[06:57] <corenominal> good morning :)
[08:04] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:14] <foobarry> i appear to have forgotten how to archive mail in thundebird
[08:15] <foobarry> ah, there's a button.
[08:34] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:05] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Blueberry Day! 😃
[09:19]  * awilkins advances a fringe theory on where blueberries come from http://bluebuddies.com/Smurf_Picture_and_Files/00000002/Clumsy_Smurf_Blueberries.jpg
[09:26] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQkDOs-EtdU :D
[09:27] <JamesTait> awilkins, I think I just went off blueberries.
[13:09] <foobarry> guys, rmeber the imgur chat yesterday
[13:09] <foobarry> or day before. firefox issues drag drop etc
[13:09] <foobarry> i sent them a mail, they replied
[13:11] <zmoylan-pi> it started 'wow we still have users...' :-P
[13:13] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/beta/enable
[13:15] <foobarry> fixes it and makes it super fast
[13:16] <diplo> Good work imgur :)
[17:55] <diddledan> davmor2: is there some kind of rule 34 over songs?
[17:56] <diddledan> I mean a song about blueberries?!
[17:56] <diddledan> you’re some kind of oracle
[17:56] <diddledan> in other news my cpu arrived
[17:56] <daftykins> wutcha pick in the end?
[17:56] <diddledan> the heatsink they ship with these things is slimline in the extreme
[17:56] <daftykins> zomg i fixed that graphics card! \o/ maybe
[17:57] <diddledan> ooh
[17:57] <diddledan> I got the i7 6700
[17:57] <diddledan> (Non-K)
[17:57] <daftykins> yay CPU buddies
[17:57] <diddledan> the mobo comes tomorrow
[17:57] <daftykins> mine is mostly idling right now, showing 27 deg C across 3 of 4 cores
[17:58] <daftykins> though i own arctic silver 5 i just left it stock with the paste it has on it :)
[18:06] <diddledan> https://press.avast.com/en-gb/avast-announces-agreement-to-acquire-avg-for-13b
[18:07] <zmoylan-pi> i still have an avg t-shirt and messenger bag i got from a days training i got a few moons back
[18:09] <daftykins> quite the surprise to me that one
[18:09] <zmoylan-pi> if i put my mind to it i could probably rustle up the original northon anti virus we used on 5.25" floppies though it might take a week or so to dig them out... :-)
[18:10] <zmoylan-pi> *norton
[18:10] <zmoylan-pi> when all you had to worry about was the stoned virus...
[18:11] <daftykins> and now it's all web based malware that's everyones problem!
[18:13] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure the problem will be licked when it's all win10 embedded devices...
[18:14] <daftykins> how about all those insecure SBCs out there? :D
[18:14] <daftykins> (single board computer)
[18:14] <zmoylan-pi> nah, the rasp pis crash and corrupt their memory cards before that happens... :-)
[18:17] <daftykins> of course!
[18:19] <daftykins> check out this mobo that had the incredibly huge Scythe Mugen heatsink on for several years: http://i.imgur.com/R76mL5O.jpg
[18:20] <zmoylan-pi> did you have to saw a hole in the pc case for the heatsink to stick out of? :-)
[18:20] <daftykins> i bought this £20 case and no joke the top of the heatpipes come to within millimetres of the side panel XD
[18:20] <daftykins> threading the board inside to fit it is quite challenging, too
[18:21] <zmoylan-pi> i have cut a fair few chunks out of my hands running cables inside pc cases that assumed you were never going to add so much as a second hard drive
[18:22] <diddledan> ditto
[18:22] <diddledan> I hate pressed metal
[18:22] <daftykins> i used to consider it a failed build if there wasn't at least some blood loss XD
[18:22] <diddledan> lol
[18:22] <diddledan> stings when you slice your fingers tho
[18:23] <daftykins> well this really is odd, in this PC the PSU only has one PCI-Express graphics (PEG) power connector - so i had to fish out a 2 x molex to PEG adapter to drive that old banana 560Ti of mine - yet in here it works just fine
[18:23] <diddledan> I like to ensure the case has a good amount of dust to glob onto your bloodied fingers too
[18:23] <daftykins> i'm gonna transplant it onto the board it was corrupting the BIOS of in a minute and see if it still performs that trick
[18:35] <diddledan> daftykins: if it isn’t a bent gfx you have a bent mobo! what are you gonna bend next?!
[18:35] <daftykins> :)
[18:35] <daftykins> diddledan: your disks!
[18:35] <diddledan> better not!
[18:36] <diddledan> my new mobo will support m.2! I want a new SSD now!
[18:36] <daftykins> oh are you not doing that at the same time? it's all about the 256GB samsung 950 Pro
[18:37] <diddledan> a full-speed pcie one, not a sata one, obv
[18:37] <daftykins> yus
[18:37] <daftykins> 2.1GB/sec read here :D
[18:37] <diddledan> the board has two m.2 ports so I could do a nice raid0
[18:37] <diddledan> 4.2GB/s :-p
[18:38] <diddledan> I donno what overheard raiding it would have actually
[18:38] <diddledan> might get better reads off raid1 than. 0
[18:39] <daftykins> i'd say both would be stupid
[18:39] <diddledan> stupid is as stupid does
[18:39] <zmoylan-pi> are you a qualifed microsoft engineer? :-P
[18:40] <daftykins> is there a cert on bending? :>
[18:40] <diddledan> No.I guess that would be a proof of stupidity?
[18:41] <daftykins> fully qualified in bending
[18:41] <daftykins> Lecturer: Bender Bending Rodriguez
[18:41] <diddledan> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Bender_Rodriguez.png
[18:42] <diddledan> you beat me
[18:42] <daftykins> :D
[18:42] <daftykins> if you killed an HDD or two i'd swear we were separated at birth!
[18:43] <diddledan> I’ve got some older ones that are knackered
[18:43] <diddledan> I even wrote on them to stop me trying to use them again :-p
[18:43] <diddledan> because obviously I _have_ tried using them multiple times since they died
[18:44] <zmoylan-pi> i write on them with a sharpie i always keep on me
[18:44] <zmoylan-pi> a date and serial no of pc they came from... ususally enough for my notes
[18:45] <daftykins> :)
[18:45] <daftykins> i just write 'DEAD' then make a Jenga set
[18:45] <diddledan> does anyone know of an offline personal wiki thing that will also upload to a git repo?
[18:46] <diddledan> daftykins: HDDs stack well don’t they!
[18:46] <zmoylan-pi> i have tried so many wikis that i can't remember.  now i just use a text file on dropbox and add hashtags per entry for finding stuff
[18:47] <daftykins> what's the use-case?
[18:49] <diddledan> I was thinking I’d like to write down some stuff like backup-restore procedures for different machines, procedures for gentoo maintenance :-p
[18:50] <diddledan> basically stuff that is only really important to me but that I’d like written down
[18:52] <diddledan> one suggestion on wikipedia is “emacs"
[18:52]  * diddledan gagas
[18:52] <diddledan> Gags*
[18:52] <zmoylan-pi> just another os to learn :-)
[18:52] <daftykins> wow, pulled PSU power again and it's confirmed - that 560Ti just isn't a happy camper
[18:52] <diddledan> another suggestion is “vim"
[18:53] <diddledan> methinks people don’t get ease-of-use
[18:53] <zmoylan-pi> i like vim, i use it a fair bit... but can be an acquired taste
[18:53] <diddledan> I love the power of vim but I don’t use it enough to remember everything
[18:53] <diddledan> so I end-up having to relearn all the time
[18:54] <zmoylan-pi> vim does have a very good outliner so that you can fold a document into sections based on topics
[18:54] <daftykins> i've been using dropbox for notes like that, neat to have credentials or client configs like say, a devices IP to hand
[18:55] <daftykins> i used to keep it all in my head but unfortunately the knock to the head seems to have shaken some loose ;)
[18:55] <zmoylan-pi> just mark the document favourite on dropbox and it'll sync anytime it changes
[19:00] <daftykins> wat? that's the default
[19:00] <daftykins> just saying the ol' grey matter can't hold it anymore
[19:02] <daftykins> hah yeah, RIP old card, she still screws up
[19:05] <diddledan> :-(
[19:11] <daftykins> pulled the mains out of the PSU in that machine, nipped out the room for a mo... plug it back in, fails to POST once more
[19:11] <daftykins> flick the rocker off, unplug ATX power from the mobo, back in and she boots with a reset CMOS
[19:11] <daftykins> somehow it trips up mobo BIOS' from being a wonky card o0
[19:12] <zmoylan-pi> ooops. http://www.csoonline.com/article/3093016/security/apple-devices-held-for-ransom-rumors-claim-40m-icloud-accounts-hacked.html#tk.twt_cso
[19:14] <daftykins> no way!
[19:14] <zmoylan-pi> way
[19:14] <daftykins> woohoo this'll wipe that smug look off their faces :>
[19:14] <zmoylan-pi> no, apple users are used to paying so it's merely apple malware requiring cash... :-P
[19:24] <daftykins> >:)
[19:26] <zmoylan-pi> my dumbphone feels left out with all this hacking... :-)
[19:27] <daftykins> and my nexus devices
[19:27] <daftykins> looked like that one amounts to bad and reused passwords again though, so no biggy
[19:27] <zmoylan-pi> there is also some android malware going around a few million devices too
[19:27] <daftykins> yes but it's from a third party app store
[20:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD>  
[20:26] <m0nkey_> Attention Apple users. Your account may have been compromised (rumor at this time) .. https://it.slashdot.org/story/16/07/08/2011205/apple-devices-held-for-ransom-rumors-claim-40m-icloud-accounts-hacked-apple-related-forums-compromised
[20:38] <popey> bet the apple ids have just been where forum users had the same user/password combo
[20:38] <popey> SebthreeBQM10HD: did you know that when you join, you post a blank line, every time?
[20:39] <zmoylan-pi> not a biggie, apple has agreed to issue every iphone user a new apple id and fingerprints...  just drop into your apple centre and they'll laser etch new fingerprints on. for a large fee they'll supply local anaesthetic
[20:40] <popey> :)
[20:41] <ali1234> it's only a matter of time before a largecompany gets seriously compromised
[20:41] <zmoylan-pi> or more accurately we get to hear about it :-)
[20:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, h eh h eh not always :d
[21:00]  * daftykins nods
[21:00] <daftykins> yep, always :P
[21:03]  * SebthreeBQM10HD smacks daftykins around with a Windows ME CD !
[21:03] <daftykins> Me!
[21:03]  * SebthreeBQM10HD and throws some DOS discs at daftykins as well :d
[21:04] <daftykins> come now, diskettes!
[21:04] <popey> i installed windows me recently in a vm for lulz
[21:04] <popey> amazing how little works now
[21:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, what like the Internet :D ?
[21:05] <zmoylan-pi> to be fair popey little worked in me then either... :-P
[21:05] <daftykins> every other release rule! :D
[21:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, oh nice just seen and read a Nexdock update in my emails :)
[21:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, so should have one shipped at the end of August it seems, maybe sooner
[21:38] <daftykins> neat, apache's mod_evasive seems quite useful for those naughty wordpress xmlrpc.php hammering scamps
[21:39] <daftykins> essentially it's like a built in fail2ban for apache
[21:39] <daftykins> libapache2-mod-evasive :)
[21:45] <daftykins> hmm now if only i can work out how to configure it so it runs properly actually
[21:46] <diddledan> FIXED THE FLIPPER!
[21:47] <diddledan> (my windows)
[21:47] <diddledan> I had to hack-in and remove duetdisplay
[21:49] <daftykins> duet wat
[21:49] <diddledan> duetdisplay.com
[21:50] <daftykins> when you first mentioned it i was gonna suggest graphics drivers since they did that to me with the preview builds, but that was long ago
[21:52] <diddledan> I had to force it into safemode by resetting the system twice before it got to the black screen with the dots but after the logo displayed. then I needed to enable msi service (used this: http://windowsitpro.com/windows/jsi-tip-9233-safemsiexe-freeware-starts-windows-installer-safe-mode) to be able to uninstall anything
[21:54] <daftykins> that duet thing, must only be good for static text or things that don't update often?
[21:55] <diddledan> I haven't tried video. only just installed it :-p
[21:55] <daftykins> ah
[21:55] <daftykins> and you borked it! :D
[21:56] <diddledan> yeah. question is: was the borkage because it was installed, or was it because I hadn't rebooted between installing and doing the new build installation
[21:56] <daftykins> ooh my
[22:02] <zmoylan-pi> http://liliputing.com/2016/07/star-cloud-pcg03u-compact-ubuntu-pc-90.html i likes me a small pc... :-)
[22:03] <diddledan> I’m not going to read that. the page started playing noise at me
[22:03] <daftykins> bay trail is a bit old now
[22:03] <daftykins> i'm about to give away core 2 duos with 4GB RAM, that kinda thing is veeeeery basic
[22:04]  * diddledan pets the i7 on his desk waiting for mobo
[22:04] <diddledan> skylake ftw
[22:05]  * zmoylan-pi is currently slumming it on ancient 1gb netbook till i check over my 4gb lenovo laptop when i get a chance
[22:06] <zmoylan-pi> i do cheat... i offload the cpu intensive tasks to my rasp pi b :-D
[22:07] <diddledan> not even b+?
[22:07] <diddledan> I need many ram
[22:07] <daftykins> pfft, that's not an intensive task if a Pi can do it ;)
[22:08] <diddledan> much cpu
[22:08] <diddledan> wow
[22:08] <daftykins> ugh i can't get mod_evasive to work properly
[22:08] <diddledan> Mod_evasive: for when you want your webserver to pretend it doesn’t know what you’re asking about
[22:08] <zmoylan-pi> i do have a pi ii but haven't set i up yet as the original pi b just keeps going...
[22:08] <daftykins> diddledan: yeah, you ever touched it?
[22:09] <diddledan> nope
[22:09] <diddledan> I want my server to be honest
[22:09] <daftykins> the test script works for me on localhost but it does nothing with me testing :/
[22:09] <diddledan> I guess if the FBI come calling it’ll grass me out
[22:09] <daftykins> well you say that but this is the one that gets wordpress' xmlrpc.php hammered many times per second from random IPs
[22:09] <diddledan> aah
[22:10] <daftykins> maybe mod_evasive depends on mod_security?
[22:10] <zmoylan-pi> that's why you run everything on pi's. 1) cheap to replace 2) the press conference looks terrible with the seized pi's as evidence :-P
[22:10] <diddledan> if you’re not using any form of remoting you _could_ just block all access to xmlrpc.php but some stuff does depend on it, e.g. jetpack plugin
[22:11] <daftykins> not sure that they'd care about that really, i was hoping this would work since they could move onto general accesses
[22:11] <daftykins> there's a 195. IP hammering it again right now
[22:11] <daftykins> multiple per second!
[22:11] <diddledan> yeouch
[22:12] <diddledan> why do they like you so much?
[22:13] <daftykins> well not me, i think they're infected machines that like to hang onto a given host once they've found it runs wordpress - and keep trying to exploit it
[22:13] <diddledan> couple of off-the-wall docker presentations here, including updating a drone while it’s in flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75vm6rRb6K0
[22:30] <daftykins> diddledan: having said that, i can't get this swine to work - so i've created a couple o' .htaccess and we'll see what it does!
[22:31] <daftykins> very irritating when something doesn't work with no obvious reason why
[22:32] <evilchristel> 6/5
[22:32] <daftykins> 120%? :)
[22:46] <daftykins> starts working after i remove it, wat
[23:05] <daftykins> diddledan: how can you confirm a .htaccess is working o0
[23:20] <m0nkey_> "AllowOverride All" in the Directory or Location directive?
[23:26] <daftykins> it was, yeah - but still seemed to be getting ignored
[23:27] <daftykins> i put the <Files filetoblock> directive directly in the vhosts in the end
[23:54] <m0nkey_> God damn it
[23:55] <m0nkey_> The ONE YEAR I didn't plan on going to Montreal Comiccon is when they have actors from the TV series Firefly
[23:55] <m0nkey_> I have a book full of the scripts, etc. that needs to be signed!
[23:56] <m0nkey_> Even Alfonso Ribeiro will be there! DAMN IT
[23:58] <m0nkey_> Kate Mulgrew (Cpt. Janeway), Brent Spiner (Cmd. Data), Nichelle Nichols... !!!
[23:59] <m0nkey_> That being said, I did sit only a couple of feet away from the TNG cast last year.