[00:00] <nacc> Rakko: yeah it's Network Manager (by default)
[00:00] <nacc> Rakko: you asked if it's possible, and it is, and they do coexist. I wouldn't recommend it, at the same time :)
[00:00] <nacc> Rakko: unless you meant nmcli as your cli option
[00:00] <nacc> Rakko: in which case it should be fine (i think)
[00:03] <Rakko> I didn't know of nmcli. Maybe I'll check it out. I just meant you said they can coexist but then said "they probably can confuse each other"
[00:04] <nacc> Rakko: if you use NM and then modify or use, say, /etc/network/interfaces, I imagine you might see some issues. Again, I don't think it's advised to try and confuse your system :)
[00:05] <Rakko> Right now all I really want to do is control wifi status (=whether it's on, and what SSID it's connected to) from the command line. I have wired on the same computer, which is what I use for the most part, so I guess it would be OK for now to have the wired connection under Network Manager and the wifi under command-line control -- if that's possible.
[00:05] <nacc> Rakko: why wouldn't you use nm for your wifi too?
[00:06] <nacc> Rakko: but yeah, i'd look at nmcli for that if you really want cli, it should do what you want
[00:07] <Rakko> yeah.
[00:07] <Rakko> nacc: basically I'd like to ssh into my other computer and control the wifi without having to run X
[00:08] <nacc> Rakko: ah, you didn't say it was remote, got it
[00:08] <Rakko> plus I just like things to at least give the option of text fiddling
[00:11] <Rakko> does NM control routes?
[00:12] <nacc> Rakko: it can
[00:12] <Rakko> I would like the wifi route to only connect to one IP
[00:13] <Rakko> maybe that's already been done. nice
[00:21] <MammaMia> hmm
[00:21] <MammaMia> I have a question
[00:21] <nacc> !ask | MammaMia
[00:22] <MammaMia> Well, I joined an app, this app can identify you .. based on your mobile
[00:23] <MammaMia> Not based on your ip
[00:23] <MammaMia> I need to know how
[00:23] <nacc> in what way is that an Ubuntu support question?
[00:23] <nacc> MammaMia: wouldn't that be a more appropriate question for the app developer or owner?
[00:24] <MammaMia> Do you know the answer?
[00:24] <MammaMia> I don't know any programmer but you people
[00:24] <Phanes> hey there.  is it a bad idea to set my default python to point to python3 instead of 2.7?
[00:25]  * Phanes would prefer not to be using legacy code
[00:25] <nacc> Phanes: yes, it's a terrible idea
[00:25] <nacc> Phanes: your system will likely break if you do that
[00:25] <Phanes> well, thats frustrating
[00:25] <Phanes> is there a spin of ubuntu for python devs or do we need to either switch distros or gut our systems?
[00:26] <nacc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3
[00:26] <nacc> Phanes: PEP 394 does not allow for python to point to python3
[00:26] <nacc> Phanes: so as a python developer, i don't think you want that.
[00:27] <Phanes> ok, good info, thanks
[00:27] <Phanes> running into issues with jupyter qtconsole
[00:27] <Phanes> doesnt seem to like pyqt5 but my scripts do, only if i run python3 against it
[00:29] <ningu> I'm getting an error on do-release-upgrade about unresolvable conflicts. the /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log entry is: The package 'postgresql-plperl-9.5' is marked for removal but it's in the removal blacklist
[00:29] <ningu> how do I take it out of the removal blacklist?
[00:29] <ningu> where is that information stored?
[00:30] <ningu> there was a thing in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d that I moved out of there that seemed to be the culprit
[00:30] <ningu> but I am still getting the error
[00:32] <nacc> ningu: upgrading from what to what?
[00:32] <ningu> nacc: 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS
[00:32] <ningu> server
[00:32] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | ningu
[00:32] <ningu> I am aware of that.
[00:32] <nacc> ningu: so you passed -d to the tool?
[00:32] <ningu> yes
[00:33] <ningu> I am using a postgresql repository in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[00:33] <ningu> that must be somehow the issue
[00:34] <nacc> ningu: don't use ppas or 3rd party repositories when you dist-upgrade.
[00:34] <ningu> nacc: so just disable them?
[00:35] <ningu> and then re-enable later?
[00:35] <ningu> I thought do-release-upgrade disabled them for you, for some reason.
[00:35] <nacc> ningu: PPAs aren't guaranteed to have packages for your new OS version; I thought the tooling disabled any PPAs it found
[00:35] <nacc> ningu: is it a PPA or a manual repository line
[00:35] <ningu> I am not sure. it may be a manual repository line. it's ok, I will disable it for now
[00:36] <ningu> and I am aware there is no guarantee it will have the right packages
[00:37] <ningu> hmm. removing them from sources.list.d doesn't seem to help. do I need to remove the packages too?
[00:37] <nacc> ningu: probably
[00:37] <ningu> ok
[00:37] <ningu> that's fine
[00:41] <ningu> working now. cool
[00:42] <ningu> is 16.04 totally systemd or is it still a mix of system/upstart/init.d?
[00:45] <nacc> systemd has been the default since 15.04
[00:45] <ningu> I know it's the default
[00:45] <ningu> but does that mean /etc/rc*d stuff isn't supported at all without extra packages? or is there still legacy support for it?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> ningu: See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers .
[00:48] <ningu> it doesn't say anything about legacy support for sysv init there
[00:49] <lighting> anyone have advice for setting up wine in v16.02? new user
[00:50] <ningu> this seems to address it: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/233468/how-does-systemd-use-etc-init-d-scripts
[00:51] <lighting> anyone have advice for setting up wine in v16.04? new user
[00:51] <Bashing-om> ningu: reading
[00:51] <vernicia> 这是干嘛的
[00:51] <Loshki> lighting: playonlinux makes running a number of wine apps pretty painless. https://www.playonlinux.com/en/
[00:52] <lighting> i installed playonlinux but it says wine is still needed
[00:54] <OerHeks> lighting, ofcourse POL needs wine, it is just a bunch of user scripts
[00:56] <Saitoh183_>  I'm trying to install mate 16.04 via USB and it seems to be hanging at preparing to install Ubuntu. When i load live media from the USB, it works great and fast but even from there if I start install, it just spins and i see the HDD light working but nothing is happening on screen
[00:58] <Tin_man> Saitoh183_, if you've changed settings on your hdd, and partitions, it might take quite a bit of time..
[00:58] <Bashing-om> Saitoh183_: Windows a factor here ? .. fast boot disabled ?
[00:58] <Saitoh183_> This is a unallocated disk
[00:58] <Saitoh183_> No windows
[00:58] <Saitoh183_> This is not to dualboot
[00:59] <Tin_man> so you never get past the install icon?
[00:59] <lighting> OerHeks: seems like i386 depndecny errors on the wine install
[01:00] <Saitoh183_> I uncheck get updates during install and third party. Click continue and the cursor spins
[01:01] <Saitoh183_> I can restart or shutdown... Like the setup isn't frozen, it just seems to be loading forever
[01:01] <Tin_man> Saitoh183_,  i'd check at least get 3rd party, you can update after install, but if i were you I'd go back and check 3rd party apps, and then wait for a while and see if it goes forward
[01:01] <Saitoh183_> Could my video card be the issue?
[01:02] <Tin_man> could be a lot of things, might not be giving it enough time to get thing ready..
[01:02] <Saitoh183_> It's a radeon 5450
[01:02] <Saitoh183_> I gave it almost 1hr
[01:03] <Tin_man> no expert on graphic problems, but normally they show up after the install.
[01:03] <Tin_man> something wrong then.
[01:03] <OerHeks> lighting, does the error give you any clue? apt-get install -f to fix problems?
[01:03] <Saitoh183_> It's a i5 650 16gb of ram
[01:03] <Tin_man> redo your usb stick, maybe use a different program to make your live usb
[01:04] <Saitoh183_> I did that
[01:04] <Saitoh183_> I might try another program
[01:04] <OerHeks> lighting, else paste the whole install + output on paste.ubuntu.com please
[01:04] <Tin_man> well, good luck..
[01:04] <Saitoh183_> Is there a way to see what the installer is doing while it's spinning
[01:06] <Tin_man> Saitoh183_,  don't have a clue.. maybe someone else might know a key combination that shows the processes, but i don't
[01:07] <lighting> OerHeks: pasted
[01:08] <lighting> #paste.ubuntu.com
[01:08] <teward> lighting: we need the full link to the paste itself - we can't 'find' a paste without that whole link
[01:08] <eelstrebor> why is kernel 4.4.0 in the repository list for ubuntu 14.04.4 and yet only 4.2.0 gets installed?
[01:09] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic wily
[01:10] <lighting> its a channel called #paste.ubuntu.com
[01:10] <Bashing-om> !hwe | eelstrebor
[01:11] <nacc> !paste | lighting
[01:11] <eelstrebor> doesn't help me
[01:11] <OerHeks> lighting, it is a webpage
[01:11] <lighting> ok
[01:12] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic-lts-xenial trusty | eelstrebor
[01:12] <OerHeks> i would just install POL, that installs wine:i386 perfectly. you seem to be on 64 bit, and there is a 64-bit wine too
[01:12] <nacc> eelstrebor: to get 4.4. in trust you'd need to use that hwe stack (xenial)
[01:13] <Bashing-om> eelstrebor: If you are running release 14.04 with the 4.2 series kernel, then HWE is at play .
[01:13] <nacc> specifically the 14.04.4 stack, aiui (wily based)
[01:14] <lighting> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18749392/
[01:15] <eelstrebor> Bashing-om, i'm wondering if installing kernel 4.4.0 will cause a kernel panic or other problems on ubuntu 14.04.4
[01:16] <nacc> Bashing-om: do you mean the 'linux-image-generic-lts-xenial' package?
[01:16] <nacc> err, sorry Bashing-om
[01:16] <nacc> eelstrebor: --^
[01:17] <eelstrebor> nacc, yes lts-xenial
[01:17] <nacc> eelstrebor: why would installing a kernel cause a kernel panic?
[01:18] <OerHeks> lighting, on what ubuntu version is this?
[01:18] <nacc> eelstrebor: or doyou mean would xenial's hwe stack panic on your machine?
[01:18] <eelstrebor> nacc, i've had kernel panics before so i'm trying to be cautious
[01:19] <Bashing-om> eelstrebor: Only trying will tell .. If you install xenial's kernel, will still have the wily kernel to fall back to . The provided link has the instructions .
[01:19] <lighting> i installed pol but it still says no wine installed when it starts
[01:19] <lighting> 16.04
[01:19] <cwolford> i'm trying to install a canon mp560 on xenial. i installed the ppa and followed the most recent directions i could find. however, i'm getting the message "The following packages have unmet dependencies: cnijfilter-mp560series:i386 : Depends: blah blah blah but it is not going to be installed." regarding 17 libxxxx files. is there a package i need to download to get these files?
[01:19] <lighting> RaspPI3
[01:19] <teward> lighting: I don't think there's an armhf Wine that works well?
[01:19] <teward> or arm64
[01:20] <OerHeks> ah, arm
[01:20] <lighting> was wondering :(
[01:20] <OerHeks> teward +1
[01:20] <teward> lighting: if you want Play On Linux and Wine, you need amd64 or i386
[01:20] <lighting> so it wont work i guess
[01:20] <eelstrebor> i'll give it a try - i don't want to have to spend a lot of time re-installing everything if something goes wrong - besides, why isn't 4.4.0 installed by default by the package manager?
[01:20] <nacc> eelstrebor: right, but that's not a kernel panic from installing the kernel, that's from using the kernel ... it was phrased funny
[01:21] <nacc> eelstrebor: because it's not the default kerenl?
[01:21] <nacc> eelstrebor: you said you !hwe didn't apply to you, but that's exactly what we're talking about
[01:21] <lighting> ok
[01:21] <nacc> eelstrebor: why woudl you try it, if you don't need to?
[01:21] <eelstrebor> 4.2.0 wasn't the default until i followed the hwe instructions
[01:21] <nacc> eelstrebor: right, so why would 4.4.0 be thd efault?
[01:21] <lighting> thanks all
[01:22] <OerHeks> lighting, see builds https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.6/1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14
[01:22] <nacc> eelstrebor: note also that when 14.04.5 comes out (august 4), all older 14.04.x stop getting updates (aiui)
[01:22] <eelstrebor> nacc, i actually plan to install a modified 4.6 kernel that gives me dvb utilities that aren't normally part of ubuntu
[01:22] <nacc> eelstrebor: ...
[01:22] <OerHeks> they are working on it https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM
[01:23] <nacc> eelstrebor: then why are you messing with hwe stacks?
[01:24] <eelstrebor> i have no idea - just trying to figure out why kernel 4.2.0 works properly but not the modified 4.6
[01:24] <nacc> eelstrebor: and you understand you need to support yourself from then on, and make sure you get security updates, etc.?
[01:26] <cwolford> anybody?
[01:26] <TeaPunk> On Ubuntu Studio here. I used the command 'sudo rm' in opt/bin folder. How do I replace that file with another. I don't know how to add a file with the command line.
[01:29] <cwolford> i'm trying to install a canon mp560 on xenial. i installed the ppa and followed the most recent directions i could find. however, i'm getting the message "The following packages have unmet dependencies: cnijfilter-mp560series:i386 : Depends: blah blah blah but it is not going to be installed." regarding 17 libxxxx files. is there a package i need to download to get these files?
[01:29] <WhiteNight> Hello I am running Ubuntu MATE Xenial. Everytime I shut down, it gets stuck on 1) Unmounting ecryptfs mount points and 2) Some service it keeps n waiting for minutes to shut down (systemd related). Any clues please? Thanks
[01:32] <OerHeks> cwolford, ferman wiki gives a clue: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Drucker/Canon/#seit-Ubuntu-14-04
[01:32] <OerHeks> * German
[01:34] <cwolford> lol i don't speak German, and the translation isn't great, but thanks for that link...i'll see what i can make happen
[01:39] <TeaPunk> How do I add a file to a directory that I can only make changes through terminal command lines? I'm using Ubuntu Studio and trying to add a .jar file to a place where it won't let me add by copy/paste.
[01:40] <cwolford> @OerHeks, using the directions on that page gives me the same error message in terminal
[01:43] <Tin_man> cwolford, i remember a couple of years ago I had to go to the canon Swiss web site to download the .deb file to get my 2500 working..
[01:43] <cwolford> TeaPunk, are you using sudo?
[01:44] <Tin_man> here is the site, but you'll need a translator, and look up your printer..
[01:44] <Tin_man> http://de.canon.ch/support/consumer_products/products/fax__multifunctionals/inkjet/pixma_mg_series/pixma_mg2540.aspx?type=download&language=&os=Linux
[01:44] <Tin_man> AT
[01:44] <cwolford> @Tin_man, yeah, i got the .deb pkg from canon china. but i just can't get it installed because of these dependencies. i'm googling each of the missing dependent files, and i got a download, but there's no install file when extracted.
[01:45] <Tin_man> good luck, it was a pain, i don't know if i could do it again or not.. :)
[01:48] <cwolford> can you check something for me? (i'm a linux noob, so i'm stuck)...what do i do with the extracted tiff_4.0.6-1.debian.tar.xz file found here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/tiff There are not installation instructions and there's nothing to be opened by a software center.
[01:49] <hiexpo> extract it firdt
[01:49] <cwolford> there are just a bunch of tiff files and some other directories inside. do i need to move those folders to another area?
[01:49] <hiexpo> ^first
[01:49] <cwolford> hiexpo, i did.
[01:49] <cwolford> that's why i asked what do with the "extracted" file
[01:49] <hiexpo> i will look at it
[01:50] <cwolford> much appreciated
[01:50] <Tin_man> i don't know cwolford, it's been over 2 years since i dove into that mess, and I've my notes, but won't apply to your printer..
[01:50] <cwolford> thanks anyway, tin_man
[01:50] <Tin_man> no problem, good luck
[01:51] <hiexpo> which one did you dou downlonload the tar .deb?
[01:51] <cwolford> tiff_4.0.6-1.debian.tar.xz
[01:53] <hiexpo> download the tar
[01:54] <cwolford> this one --> tiff_4.0.6.orig.tar.gz?
[01:54] <hiexpo> cd the dir Downloads/tiff     <
[01:54] <hiexpo> yes
[01:54] <hiexpo> or where it downloads to
[01:55] <somaReverse> Hello. How can I manually get a ipv6 unicast address?
[01:55] <hiexpo> once in the dir of tiff ./configure
[01:55] <Saitoh183_> Figured it out... New ssd did not have a Partition table
[01:55] <cwolford> ah... ./configure instead of a ./install
[01:56] <Bashing-om> !cookie Saitoh183_
[01:57] <hiexpo> it will give you errors if all dependencies are not met if all is good make
[01:57] <cwolford> ./configure and sudo ./configure are not working "./configure: command not found"
[01:57] <hiexpo> no sudo
[01:57] <cwolford> tried just ./configure and i'm getting the same message.
[01:57] <hiexpo> cd the dir of the tiff file
[01:58] <cwolford> did that. i'm in /Downloads/debian where all the extracted files are.
[01:58] <hiexpo> open terminal cd Downloads
[01:58] <hiexpo> the ls
[01:58] <hiexpo> then
[01:59] <hiexpo> what is the output of ls
[01:59] <hiexpo> then cd
[01:59] <cwolford> changelog                       libtiff5.symbols                  libtiffxx5.lintian-overrides
[01:59] <cwolford> compat                          libtiff-doc.doc-base              libtiffxx5.shlibs
[01:59] <cwolford> control                         libtiff-doc.install               libtiffxx5.symbols
[01:59] <cwolford> copyright                       libtiff-opengl.install            patches
[01:59] <cwolford> libtiff5-dev.install            libtiff-opengl.lintian-overrides  README.source
[01:59] <cwolford> libtiff5-dev.lintian-overrides  libtiff-tools.install             rules
[02:00] <hiexpo> one sec
[02:01] <hiexpo> okay you made a mess
[02:01] <cwolford> how? all i did was extract the file
[02:02] <hiexpo> whaT dir is that in ?
[02:03] <cwolford> that's in /Downloads/debian
[02:03] <TeaPunk> Please, can anyone help me? I removed a flie in a directory that I can only access through the command line. I used 'sudo rm' and now I want to add a file in it's place. How do I do this?
[02:03] <cwolford> that's where it extracted.
[02:03] <hiexpo> okay delete all that mess
[02:03] <cwolford> okay
[02:04] <cwolford> done
[02:05] <hiexpo> okay open a terminal
[02:05] <cwolford> in one
[02:06] <hiexpo> okay okay now next ? what browser you useing?
[02:06] <cwolford> chrome
[02:06] <hiexpo> firefox?
[02:07] <hiexpo> okay
[02:09] <LtL> hint: prefix who you are talking to with their nick. tab completion is your friend. less confusion this way.
[02:09] <hiexpo> do you still hyave that tar file in downloads dir?
[02:09] <cwolford> yep
[02:10] <hiexpo> okay right click on it click extract here
[02:10] <cwolford> done (and that's what i did previously)
[02:11] <LtL> TeaPunk: where is the file you want to put and where d you want it
[02:11] <LtL> *do
[02:11] <hiexpo> okay now open a terminal and cd Downloads
[02:12] <hiexpo> then ls
[02:12] <cwolford> that gives me the debian folder again
[02:12] <hiexpo> okay let me see it
[02:12] <xxg> hi
[02:13] <xxg> where are people
[02:13] <LtL> \o/
[02:13] <xxg> what?
[02:13] <cwolford> sent a pm so the bot doesn't yell at me again
[02:14] <xxg> let me see see
[02:14] <hiexpo> the ls you should have a folder called tiff-4.0.6
[02:14] <xxg> ..........
[02:14] <xxg> lalalalalal
[02:15] <hiexpo> xxg, <
[02:15] <xxg> ????
[02:15] <cwolford> nope, that folder does not exist for some reason
[02:16] <cwolford> and it's the tiff_4.0.6-1.debian.tar.xz correct?
[02:16] <xxg> yeah
[02:16] <hiexpo> no the original i said
[02:16] <xxg> cant get it
[02:17] <cwolford> lol dangit, i must've deleted the wrong one. PEBCAK.
[02:19] <cwolford> hiexpo, just sent you another ls
[02:20] <hiexpo> okay cwolford cd the debian folder
[02:21] <cwolford> done
[02:21] <hiexpo> okay now sudo ./libtiif5install
[02:22] <hiexpo> libbtiff
[02:22] <quarters> hello.  would it make a performance difference if I left my boot partition on my hdd vs moving it to my small ssd?
[02:23] <cwolford> so "sudo ./libtiff5install?
[02:25] <hiexpo> sudo ./libtiff5.install
[02:25] <criticalclarity> i've got a cisco anyconnect vpn setup on one computer and I'd like to get ubuntu to use openconnect to make the same sort of connection.
[02:26] <criticalclarity> How do I find the info to fill in the Editing VPN connection dialog box?
[02:26] <cwolford> $ sudo ./libtiff5.install
[02:26] <cwolford> sudo: ./libtiff5.install: command not found
[02:26] <hiexpo> one sec
[02:29] <criticalclarity> when I try to guess I get "failed due to invalid vpn secrets"
[02:30] <hiexpo> cwolford, open the debian folder
[02:31] <hwkng> is it possible to flash an android device and install ubuntu on it?
[02:31] <hwkng> I'm willing to give up everything on the tablet
[02:31] <hwkng> I just want a screen to run vim on
[02:31] <hwkng> that is all
[02:31] <hiexpo> right click on that file libtiff5.install click permissions and tick execute
[02:31] <cwolford> done
[02:32] <cwolford> that would be why it isn't working. i don't see a libtiff5.install file in the folder
[02:32] <hwkng> where is libtiff5.install ?
[02:33] <hiexpo> hwkng, sorry not talking to you sorry again
[02:34] <Lehthanis> anyone here familiar with certbot-auto for 14.04?
[02:34] <cwolford> i don't know. i go from "libtiff-4.pc.in" to the "m4" directory...no libtiff5.install in between.
[02:35] <cwolford> but there is a configure file
[02:35] <cwolford> should i do the ./configure?
[02:36] <danny_> Is org-mode worth learning?  Or is there a better personal planning solution?
[02:39] <Lehthanis> I followed a tutorial and certbot-auto is in my sudo users home folder...where's the best place to put the certbot-auto script in order to add it to roots cron tab?
[02:43] <YankDownUnder> Lehthanis: So you followed the tutorial for this "script", did you perhaps read any other documentation about this "script"? Because "location" would be part of the installation instructions...
[02:44] <NINERD> ello
[02:46] <cwolford> hiexpo?
[02:47] <Lehthanis> YankDownUnder: https://certbot.eff.org/#ubuntutrusty-nginx nope, just tells me to get it
[02:51] <YankDownUnder> Lehthanis: I shan't look, because it's not really within my particular interests, to be honest. However, that being said, if the "script" is supposed to be in "root"'s cron jobs, it's safe to assume that that is where you'd want to place the script. Bear in mind that anything - ANYTHING running as "root" is a security risk to one's system.
[02:56] <cwolford> Lehthanis, i sent you a pm
[03:17] <irinix> so, I'm now having problems with wifi in 15.10
[03:18] <irinix> it's been working great until the last couple of days
[03:18] <irinix> http://pastebin.com/UU7c4paM  That's the error I get followed by dmsg, has anyone seen anything similar?
[03:21] <rypervenche> irinix: Looks as though the firmware isn't working correctly. Maybe you updated it recently.
[03:21] <irinix> I haven't.  That's the one that's been running since the install
[03:23] <irinix> unless ubuntu updater decided to update it for me
[03:23] <irinix> no, it's the same
[03:23] <irinix> I guess redownload / modprobe it?
[03:25] <rypervenche> irinix: I would try to find when it was working and when it stopped working, what changed between then. You can check your logs in /var/log/apt to see which packages were installed. Maybe it's a new kernel, try an older one on boot.
[03:25] <YankDownUnder> One of the questions to ask is what was changed/installed/updated in between the wifi working and now...
[03:25] <irinix> as far as I know nothing
[03:26] <rypervenche> irinix: "as far as I know" is not good enough :) You have logs to be sure. :)
[03:26] <YankDownUnder> Desktop or laptop?
[03:27] <irinix> laptop
[03:27] <irinix> just checked apt-logs, wifi was working on the fourth, but last apt changes were the 3rd
[03:27] <YankDownUnder> Is there a "key combination" on the laptop to enable/disable wifi? (On most, there is that or a button)
[03:28] <irinix> yes, fn-f2 but that key combo only ever works to shut wifi off in ubuntu.  E.G. since I installed it, wifi is on by default, and off after the keypress
[03:28] <irinix> then totally non-responsive till reboot
[03:29] <Guy1524> hey guys how do I ping an ip at a certain port udp
[03:29] <locutus> hello gurus!  anyone have a gopro correctly mounted w/ 16.04?
[03:30] <locutus> I have a gopro 4 session with a 32gb microsd card in it. I know there are vids already on the card. when I plug in the camera via usb, I can see the gopro mounted in the (gui) file manager. I can go into it and see 2 folders "DCM_00000001_00000001" and "DCM_00000001". Also there is a url shortcut to "get started with gopro.url". the top of the window of the file manager says "contains digital photos". Going into either of those
[03:30] <locutus> folders I see no files. I absolutely know there are 7 video files on the camera.
[03:32] <irinix> the only real thing that has changed is that I disassembled / reassembled the laptop to clean it.
[03:32] <irinix> Since I'm using it right now on my windows partition, I can rule out the hardware
[03:32] <rypervenche> Guy1524: You can use nmap or netcat.
[03:32] <wyseguy> can someone help with a multi monitor issue? I have 3 monitors and I cant seem to align then correctly. If I try dragging a monitor it wont move, then randomly is will let me place it in some weird spot but wont line up with the others
[03:32] <wyseguy> http://goo.gl/Y0vOr5
[03:33] <YankDownUnder> irinix: However, the buttons are very sensitive - the ribbon cable that plugs in the keyboard to the system board and the "extra" ribbon cables are very sensitive...from experience...
[03:33] <YankDownUnder> irinix: As well, connections for daughterboards and the likes are also a bit freaky at times...
[03:33] <irinix> YankDownUnder, I have 15 years experience
[03:34] <Guy1524> rypervenche: just installed nmap, how do I ping an ip using udp at a certain port
[03:34] <irinix> yes, they can be.
[03:34] <irinix> =)
[03:34] <irinix> I'm just more windows experienced than linux
[03:35] <wyseguy> nm i got it, i had to right click and move it dohhh lol
[03:35] <YankDownUnder> irinix: That being said, however, is the wifi working under Windows or from a LiveUSB? Because that in itself would tell you whether or not there is something hosed up in your linux installation...hmm...
[03:35] <irinix> from windows
[03:36] <rypervenche> Guy1524: sudo nmap -sU -p 9999 ip.goes.here (change the 9999 and IP)
[03:36] <Guy1524> k thanks
[03:36] <irinix> I'm pretty sure it's with linux.  I run an intel 6320 card, and it's always been an issue, though not like this
[03:37] <irinix> http://pastebin.com/jGuSnFXy  <<This is the modprobe.d configuration file I had to set up to make the wifi work in the first place
[03:37] <YankDownUnder> irinix: In order to get it to work the first time you installed 15.04, did you do anything special? As well, something to think about, have you moved/changed any USB devices since it was working and now? Being that you've disassembled the machine...just asking...trying to follow a logical flow.
[03:38] <irinix> YankDownUnder, the only thing that isn't *exactly* where it was when I was running before is the empty sd-card adapter
[03:38] <irinix> my mouse & external hard drives are in the same ports
[03:38] <YankDownUnder> irinix: Yeah...far out...
[03:38] <irinix> that last pastebin made the wifi work when the install was fresh
[03:39] <Guy1524> how do I extract retrieve an output from nmap (specifically whether the connection is open or closed)
[03:39] <irinix> well heck it can't hurt to try and reinstall the firmware
[03:39] <irinix> *again*
[03:40] <YankDownUnder> irinix: You could always try this: 1.) Comment out the "load" of the module when the system boots. Boot the system WITHOUT that module. See what happens. Shut the system down. Boot again, re-edit the module to load again. Shut the machine down. Restart (from cold). See if that resolves...
[03:42] <rypervenche> Guy1524: What do you mean "extract"?
[03:43] <weebee> hello?
[03:43] <rypervenche> weebee: Hi
[03:43] <irinix> YankDownUnder, again, forgive me, as most of my repair experience is windows, but where am I commenting out the module load?
[03:44] <weebee> what's going on rypervenche
[03:44] <YankDownUnder> irinix: Where you added the forced load in the firs tplace
[03:45] <rypervenche> weebee: Not much. Have an Ubuntu question?
[03:45] <Guy1524> nevermind
[03:46] <weebee> rypervenche: Nope. This is my first time on any irc so i just wanted to say hello.
[03:47] <rypervenche> weebee: Ah ok. Well welcome. This channel is for Ubuntu support, so you might like to find another channel for chatting. I'll send you a private message if you like for finding rooms that you might like.
[03:48] <weebee> rypervenche: I would like that, thankyou.
[03:49] <wyseguy> for anyone that is on a laptop... this saved my cpu bigtime :) sudo chmod 744 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-smb-browse
[03:49] <wyseguy> then init 6 of course
[03:50] <rypervenche> weebee: Sent. Check your private message. alt + the number in the buffer (probably alt+2 or alt+3)
[03:55] <mw_> Hello !
[03:55] <irinix> well, now it's working perfectly, again
[03:55] <irinix> =/
[03:56] <irinix> I didn't even do anything
[03:56] <YankDownUnder> irinix: Must be solar flares. :)
[03:56] <mw_> can someone tell me what is with the inflated:.... after extracting a jar
[03:56] <mw_> ?
[03:56] <irinix> YankDownUnder: I was going with Shield-phase-invariance
[03:57] <rypervenche> mw_: It means it decompressed it.
[03:57] <YankDownUnder> irinix: THAT must be it...I shan't elaborate on all the quantum irregularities here in this neck of the woods...
[03:57] <rypervenche> mw_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFLATE
[03:57] <mw_> oh...ok...rypervenche...thanks
[03:58] <irinix> =D
[03:58] <irinix> well we'll see what happens until the next time it fails
[03:58] <irinix> I think it was the threat of having the firmware forcibly removed / replaced that caused it not to be wonky
[03:59] <ubuntu-mate> Hi I am trying to duel boot windows 10 and ubuntu 16.04 but after I install ubuntu grub boot loader don't show up and my computer boots into windows. Right now I am booted into the ubuntu live dvd please help.
[03:59] <researcher123> is there an application in ubuntu to convert pdf to doc?
[03:59] <YankDownUnder> It *is* an Intel based card...so that must be it...they don't like firm firmware
[04:00] <YankDownUnder> researcher123: http://pdf2doc.com/
[04:01] <YankDownUnder> researcher123: http://www.howtogeek.com/228531/how-to-convert-a-pdf-file-to-editable-text-using-the-command-line-in-linux/
[04:02] <rcmainak> Can anyone tell me why mount position of my other partition changes after sometime?
[04:03] <Megaman> Can someone help me duelboot ubuntu and windows
[04:04] <SwedeMike> Megaman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:05] <rcmainak> what about my problem? :(
[04:05] <rypervenche> rcmainak: It depends on the order that your disks were discovered.
[04:06] <rypervenche> rcmainak: You can mount them by something that won't change.
[04:06] <rcmainak> i want that. tell me more
[04:07] <YankDownUnder> You can always edit the /etc/fstab and establish a permanent place for mounts - if that's what the desire is.
[04:08] <rypervenche> rcmainak: I would type "sudo blkid" and use the UUID for mounting and add it to your fstab.
[04:08] <rcmainak> disclaimer: i'm a noob
[04:09] <rcmainak> all though I can type in "sudo blkid"
[04:09] <rcmainak> :p
[04:09] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Then go to pastebin.com and paste the output there, then give us the link and tell us what you would like to mount.
[04:09] <rypervenche> rcmainak: And would you like this to mount each time you start the machine or only when you tell it to?
[04:11] <rcmainak> I would prefer GitHub Gist. I hope there is no problem with that.
[04:11] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Go for it.
[04:15] <rcmainak> rypervenche: The output is pretty terrible. link -> https://gist.github.com/RCMainak/545855dc4f86466fb74f95b9512696b8
[04:18] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Cool, so you can mount sda5 like: mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/4b5c9c96-a780-4660-a49b-b459563ec5f5 /whereveryouwant
[04:18] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Or if you want it to always mount to the same place, we can help you add it to your fstab file.
[04:19] <Jabuticaba> Oie
[04:20] <rcmainak> I can only access dev/sda6 using the file explorer. can't find out where dev/sda5 is gone
[04:21] <rcmainak> Opps! it is the other partition I guess lol
[04:29] <ugcoder> Hello
[04:29] <auctus_> so i can boot into the cli with 'advanced ubuntu options' whatever kernel -> upstart, from the boot menu, works fine, but trying to boot normally it gets stuck on that blank, vaguely purple-ish screen the ubuntu logo is supposed to eventually show loading on, never gets beyond there
[04:30] <auctus_> ubuntu 16.04 on a 2008 hp laptop (6910p)
[04:31] <theDude> this is my second reboot. what is best apt-get terminal command to update everything?
[04:33] <stacks88> theDude depends on what you want to upgrade. apt-get update;apt-get upgrade generally
[04:35] <rcmainak> rypervenche: let me restate the problem with a image. check the gist for the image -> https://gist.github.com/RCMainak/545855dc4f86466fb74f95b9512696b8
[04:36] <rcmainak> I don't want it to create a separate file when I boot in
[04:41] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Each partition will have a different folder. You can tell it where to mount though if you want it to have a different name.
[04:44] <rcmainak> ok, let's try that. rypervenche
[04:45] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Take a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:00] <rcmainak> rypervenche: bash: I tried "/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sda6". Output->  "bash: /usr/bin/udisks: No such file or directory"
[05:00] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Oh nono, you just need to add one or two likes to your /etc/fstab file.
[05:03] <RyanTG> How do you specify you want the .snap version of an app to run instead of the .deb version?
[05:03] <rcmainak> rypervenche:  you mean edit /etc/fstab file
[05:04] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Yes, lines* You need to edit the file. Sorry I am not helping more at the moment, I'm getting ready for bed.
[05:05] <RyanTG> For example, I had vlc-2.2.2-5 installed via apt and vlc daily installed via snap, but I wasn't sure which one I was starting until I purged vlc using apt and then re-launched it, showing 3.0.0
[05:05] <rcmainak> rypervenche: no point in preparing, you can't sleep well without helping me lol
[05:06] <RyanTG> prior to apt-get purge (remove probably would have worked too), launching it kept launching 2.2.2-5
[05:06] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Then answer this. Where do you want each folder to be mounted?
[05:10] <rcmainak> rypervenche: I don't want the path of the files to be changed each type I boot in. see the image in the gist. dev/sda6 was first represented by the first folder then the second folder poped up and changed the path. then the third one. If I want to access files under dev/sda6 i need to enter the path "/media/mainak/cf0301bb-381f-44ec-bad0-adb94bad448c3/GitHub" in terminal at first the path...
[05:10] <rcmainak> ...was "/media/mainak/cf0301bb-381f-44ec-bad0-adb94bad448c/GitHub"
[05:11] <jon_> hello i just upgraded to 15.10 on a lenovo yoga 13 and now it does not recognize trackpad
[05:11] <rcmainak> "cf0301bb-381f-44ec-bad0-adb94bad448c" this part is common in each file. the additional 1 or 2 or 3 is messing up things
[05:11] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Oh, that looks like a mounting problem perhaps.
[05:12] <marimon2> hello, i have dependency problem with apache2
[05:12] <marimon2> libapache2-mod-php7.0 : Depends: apache2-api-20120211
[05:12] <rypervenche> rcmainak: That will take some time to troubleshoot and ask more questions, such as how long in between before it changes, does a reboot fix it, etc.
[05:12] <marimon2> php : Depends: php7.0 but it is not going to be installed
[05:12] <rcmainak> rypervenche: i want to just fix that. when are you planning to wake up?
[05:15] <rypervenche> rcmainak: Your logs will help people too. I'm sure someone here can help you in my absence. If not, you can leave me a message and I can see if I can help later.
[05:16] <rcmainak> Anyone want to help me with a mounting problem???
[05:22] <marimon2> i could fix by myself
[05:22] <marimon2> thanks
[05:25] <marimon2> but now i got stuck at this error apache2: Syntax error on line 210 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/authz_default.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_authz_default.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_authz_default.so: undefined symbol: ap_requires
[05:29] <marimon2> Syntax error on line 210 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/alias.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_alias.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_alias.so: undefined symbol: ap_log_error_
[05:44] <tahder> Okay, so there has been problems with my desktop (brand new and has newly installed ubuntu software) and there is no external damager or anything. I don't want to keep asking you guys unless im completely stumped. My question is if i mess with me computer is there a risk a run of a type of "ring of death" happening to my computer if im just messing around until i solve the problem
[05:46] <hateball> tahder: do you mean if you can physically kill your hardware? There is a slim chance, but nothing you should be worried about
[05:48] <tahder> okay, and just for clearity, if i mess with the software and it gets somehome corrupted and i restart it. Its not going to turn off and not turn back on or something? (i have mulitple OS on there)
[05:49] <root> ss
[05:49] <root> cc
[05:49] <root> ss
[05:49] <root> asdfg
[05:49] <root> qwert
[05:53] <hendry> hi there, I am using Ubuntu Xenial and I'm a little confused at how by default Ubuntu manages it's network interfaces
[05:53] <hendry> Is it still /etc/network/interfaces or is it systemd-networkd?
[05:53] <Jon777> hi
[06:11] <vbotka> hendry, I still use /etc/network/interfaces with Xenial
[06:15] <Archeus> hmm
[06:15] <Archeus> i m having network problems
[06:15] <Archeus> may laptop shows im connected to wifi
[06:16] <Archeus> but net dosent work
[06:16] <Archeus> wht should i do ?
[06:17] <danmulvey> Archeus: do you have any other devices connected to the same network that can connect to the internet?
[06:20] <ouroumov_> Archeus, when you ping 8.8.8.8 do you get "Destination Host Unreachable"? If so you might have a router block, is it a free wifi hotspot? - Those usually require you to login a portal before granting you access
[06:22] <Archeus> its my home wifi
[06:22] <Archeus> and yes some other devices are connected to
[06:22] <Archeus> too*
[06:22] <Archeus> nd wifi works fine on them
[06:23] <mgor> Archeus, does this happen after waking the laptop from sleep?
[06:23] <Archeus> no
[06:23] <Archeus> its like
[06:23] <Archeus> i start my laptop
[06:23] <Archeus> it works fine for some time
[06:23] <Archeus> then stops working
[06:24] <Archeus> my laptop shows its connected to wifi
[06:24] <Archeus> but net dosent work
[06:27] <xrizonx> Hi there
[06:27] <Blue1> howdy tex
[06:27] <mgor> Archeus, could you add your `dmesg' output to any of the pastebin service, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Pastebin
[06:27] <Archeus> wht is dmesg output ?
[06:28] <xrizonx> My PC fails to boot anything, will resetting the BIOS help?
[06:28] <Blue1> xrizonx: Have you tried a bootable cd/dvd?
[06:30] <Archeus> hmm
[06:30] <Archeus> i put tht in terminal
[06:30] <Archeus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18765629/
[06:32] <Blue1> Night all - I am gone
[06:32] <mgor> Archeus, you have two wlan interfaces, connecting to the same AP?
[06:32] <Archeus> whts AP ?
[06:32] <mgor> access point.
[06:32] <mgor> wifi router.
[06:33] <xrizonx> Blue1: Sorry, connection dropped out :(
[06:33] <xrizonx> Switched to ethernet now
[06:37] <mgor> Archeus, i would suggest you to un-plug the USB wifi adapter, and see if you have the same problem. I don't see a reason for you to have two wifi connections?
[06:37] <Archeus> k
[06:41] <peter_> Dear Team, I'd like to install java 1.6.0 in ubuntu 16.04. could  you help me to guide?
[06:41] <sruli> i am trying to connect to vpn using nmcli but want to set a timeout of 15 seconds, from the man page, i use option "--wait=15" but i get an error that its an unknown parameter using 16.04 (in 14.04 man page the option is --timeout=, tried that and same result)
[06:42] <lyze> peter_, any specific reason you want to isntall a really old version of it with many security holes?
[06:43] <peter_> #lyze, I'd like to install coz some of the hitachi software are not working in new version of java. Thanks for your reply.
[06:43] <u___> How I can connect two motherboards together to make the speed is double?
[06:45] <lyze> peter_, http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[06:46] <peter_> #Lyze, Noted with thanks lyze. I'll try to do it.
[06:48] <lyze> peter_, download, extract it. set the environment variable to <path>/ban and set the java_home to <path>
[06:48] <peter_> lyze, Thanks for your help.
[06:49] <vbotka> Archeus, the problem is very probably with AP. "wlan0: associating with AP with corrupt probe response"
[06:49] <lyze> peter_, No problem. btw. I meant <path>/bin and not <path>/ban ... ^^
[06:49] <u___> How I can connect two motherboards together to make the speed is double?
[06:49] <u___> >?<
[06:49] <peter_> lyze, noted. ^^
[06:49] <StrivE^> lol u___
[06:50] <u___> is not possible ?
[06:50] <Squall5668> No
[06:51] <u___> there is one he could connect many Raspberry pi together. How ?
[06:51] <Squall5668> ask respberry support channels
[06:51] <StrivE^> What file do I edit to change this servers IP address to static?
[06:52] <Squall5668> StrivE^: You can change your internal ip in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:52] <StrivE^> thank you Squall5668, you rock
[06:53] <StrivE^> # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
[06:53] <StrivE^> auto lo
[06:53] <StrivE^> iface lo inet loopback
[06:53] <StrivE^> that's all i have...weird
[06:53] <StrivE^> I'm guessing I have to add it myself
[06:55] <Squall5668> it's usually missing if you have a network manager. So do not edit it if you do. Check if you have the 'nmcli' command
[06:56] <StrivE^> yup, seems like it. got some object stuff
[06:57] <StrivE^> so use nmcli instead of editing the interface file correct?
[06:58] <Squall5668> Yeah, I suggest you read the man, but it should be something like 'sudo nmcli connection modify YourEthName'?
[06:58] <StrivE^> got it, thanks again Squall5668
[06:59] <tahder> okay, I erased everything and burned a ubuntu download to cd. How do you check to see if it works?
[07:00] <Kalipi> Hello!
[07:00] <StrivE^> hi Kalipi
[07:01] <Kalipi> What open source analog for the flash do you know?
[07:01] <StrivE^> none, new to linux
[07:03] <nahtnam> Hey, quick question. On my ubuntu development laptop, should I install things like docker and postgres using linuxbrew or using apt?
[07:07] <jatin30> Hi everyone I was setting up ccache in my system so It says that I have to issue some commands into the root of the source tree my source is downloaded in /home/OS/android/system and I have edited the ~/.bashrc profile - added , but where is exactly the root of my source tree?
[07:08] <jatin30> added export USE_CCACHE=1 in ~/.bashrc
[07:08] <jatin30> I think the root of my source tree is /home/OS/android/system right?
[07:09] <jatin30> There is no ~/.ccache in my system right now
[07:12] <tahder> okay, i just tried to install ubuntu from a cd and the cd isn't showing up. This is on a levovo comp. With windows 10 already installed. There are a few other ubuntus installed but more if not all are corrupted
[07:13] <theos> hey
[07:13] <theos> what does 'buntu 16.04 use to copy files in nautilus? the small dialog box that appears showing the copy progress
[07:31] <marimon2>  libapache2-mod-php5.6 : Depends: apache2-api-20120211 but it is not installable
[07:31] <marimon2> :/
[07:34] <sruli> i am trying to connect to vpn using nmcli but want to set a timeout of 15 seconds, from the man page, i use option "--wait=15" but i get an error that its an unknown parameter using 16.04 (in 14.04 man page the option is --timeout=, tried that and same result)
[07:35] <theos> re:what does 'buntu 16.04 use to copy files in nautilus? the small dialog box that appears showing the copy progress
[07:40] <OerHeks> theos, the " org.gnome.Nautilus.FileOperations.CopyFile " routine in nautilus, http://askubuntu.com/a/158107
[07:43] <theos> OerHeks does it use dd?
[07:44] <OerHeks> theos, no, cp
[07:45] <theos> oh. thanks
[07:45] <OerHeks> what makes you think it used DD?
[07:46] <theos> OerHeks file transfers are very fast as compared to 14.04. i get 65MBps speed while copying big files from one hdd to another. before 16.04, i used to get around 15MBps usually
[07:46] <theos> so i thought maybe they changed the copy mechanism
[07:47] <theos> (65MBps might not look much but its a LOT for me because i have suffered with 15MBps for ages)
[07:48] <OerHeks> hmm maybe the change to systemD gives better performance
[07:49] <theos> i see
[07:49] <lionking> nong  sa lie???
[07:51] <steven> where does the package doc-rfc-std store rfc's? or more interestingly how does one check what / how a deb installs something?
[07:51] <steven> like for instance arch pkgs have a pkgbuild that allows me to just see what happens
[07:52] <EriC^^> steven: dpkg -L package shows the list of files
[07:52] <steven> ah it shows the resulting path I assume EriC^^ ?
[07:53] <rhumbot> hi all, I use thunderbird on ubuntu and was wondering if there is any way to extract a password from thunderbird? I forgot my mail password ... but its still working on the ubuntu computer ...
[07:53] <EriC^^> steven: yeah
[07:53] <steven> awesome. thanks EriC^^
[07:54] <EriC^^> steven: no problem
[07:55] <sruli> i am trying to connect to vpn using nmcli but want to set a timeout of 15 seconds, from the man page, i use option "--wait=15" but i get an error that its an unknown parameter using 16.04 (in 14.04 man page the option is --timeout=, tried that and same result)
[07:55] <steven> while we at it there a nice rfc reader that just allows me to do rfc-read 12345 and it just opens the one from that package / paths parsing the none sense out of it EriC^^ ?
[07:55] <Opertus> rhumbot: edit->preferences->passwords->saved passwords
[07:57] <rhumbot> great! thank you. is this a risk, if my computer got infected? ^^
[07:57] <EriC^^> steven: no idea
[07:57] <neil_> hi ... I have a VM ... I ssh into it , then did a "sudo -i" ... the "/root/.bashrc" does not seem to be executing ... any ideas why?
[07:57] <steven> awesome :D so imma google something
[07:59] <lyze> rhumbot, sure it is. It needs to be stored in a way to revert it back to the original password so the client can login to the webserver. If you don't want to haev a "security risk" then you shouldn't save passwords.
[07:59] <lyze> Or encrypt them with a master password
[08:01] <steven> nah, google doesnt help. the package contains a bunch of tar.gz files but I dont think I'd have to manually extract those and open files in vim. feels just wrong
[08:04] <akik> neil_: i just tested and "echo test" is run after "sudo -i"
[08:06] <vbotka> neil_, because sudo -i reads .profile or .login. I think .profile should handle it.
[08:07] <neil_> vbotka, ok .. I will look at that thanks
[08:09] <neil_> vbotka, I created a .profile and put the alias in that and everything is working as expected.
[08:11] <ndee> hi, I have let's say 200 files and I would like to copy them to directory X, one by one in an interval of 5 minutes. How can I do that?
[08:12] <Triffid_Hunter> ndee: something like 'for F in *; do cp -v "$F" mydir/; sleep 300; done' perhaps?
[08:12] <ndee> Triffid_Hunter: sweetness, exactly what I need
[08:13] <ndee> thx!
[08:21] <cuboid> I can't get imagemagick to properly merge pngs into a pdf.
[08:22] <neil_> I am trying to get python rrdtool working for python3 ... but I can only find python-rrdtool ... which seems to user python2
[08:22] <cuboid> When ever I try to open the file in Firefox, it doesn't open. I checked the file in a text editor and it shows "PNG" near the start of the file, but no information indicating it is a pdf file.
[08:27] <pletin12> Whenever I turn on my laptop there is a message "Failed to start x server" and I can only use the terminal. Usually I fix it temporarily by typing sudo service mdm stop and then reboot. I use the recommended nvidia driver. Do you think there is a problem with my graphics card?
[08:28] <sruli> i am trying to connect to vpn using nmcli but want to set a timeout of 15 seconds, from the man page, i use option "--wait=15" but i get an error that its an unknown parameter using 16.04 (in 14.04 man page the option is --timeout=, tried that and same result)
[08:32] <neil_> is there a rrdtool python3 package?
[08:41] <solidus_> h
[08:41] <paranoidabhi> I installed selektor and it shows as working but on whatismyip, my address doesn't change.
[08:41] <paranoidabhi> I am using 16.04
[08:43] <paranoidabhi> anything I could be missing?
[08:44] <leeyaa> hi
[08:44] <leeyaa> does openssh support tcp wrappers on 16.04 LTS ? it seems it does
[08:44] <paranoidabhi> In Proxy setting I have set "Detect my proxy configuration automatically" and my Proxy mode is Proxy all traffic
[08:45] <paranoidabhi> any suggestions?
[08:50] <leeyaa> TCP Wrapper (libwrap) support has been updated for use with OpenSSH 7.2p2
[08:50] <leeyaa> seriously -.-
[08:56] <tynan> nmap is seriously oudated in the repos, how can i update to the latest version?
[09:00] <hateball> tynan: use a ppa or compile yourself, both ways which are unsupported
[09:04] <manlin> I'm trying to mount an nfs directory using sec=krb5 on Ubuntu 16.04. No errors but its actually mounted using sec=null. keytabs, ntp, fwd reverse lookups all okay.. any thoughts?
[09:05] <tynan> hateball: unsupported by who, Ubuntu?
[09:05] <theptr> hi all i want to use firefox on ubuntu 16.04 but after installing it never start , could this be because im trying to run it on an A64 allwinner Cpu ?
[09:07] <hateball> tynan: Yes, as only what comes packaged is supported
[09:09] <gwokamollaye>  tynan: don't you know ppa's are of the devil and you shouldn't dare compile yourself smh
[09:09] <gwokamollaye> tynan: why do you need the latest, what does it do that the stable version in the repos can't?
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> manlin  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto#NFSv4_Server_with_Kerberos
[09:13] <manlin> MonkeyDust: thats what I pretty much followed... but didn't manage to make it work
[09:13] <manlin> i have done this setup few times on 14.04 and had related problems which I solved each time and forgot to document it :)
[09:14] <manlin> but this time it is 16.04. wondering if there is any other service that needs to be enabled
[09:18] <manlin> okay i did a verbose mount and now i see "protocol not supported"
[09:19] <Eryk> Hi
[09:21] <rightnow> Hello i need some help. I have added a crontab using both  "crontab -e" and "sudo crontab -e" .. it says: 11 20  * * * bash /home/christopher/bin/backup-db.sh >/dev/null 2>&1         it ran on 17 min above 11, but the syslog says: (CRON) error (can't fork). Running the script manually works with and without sudo
[09:21] <rightnow> sorry, i meant it run at 11 min past 20
[09:22] <rightnow> it ran on time
[09:22] <tynan> gwokamollaye: i'm messaging you
[09:23] <Triffid_Hunter> rightnow: you can't put shell redirects and stuff in cron, it won't work, cron is not a shell. you may want to try sh -c '/path/to/your/script >/dev/null 2>&1' or similar
[09:23] <rightnow> sh -c.. inside the cron file?
[09:24] <folf> rightnow, just make the script executable and point cron to it
[09:26] <rightnow> folf: but shouldnt that mean that it wouldnt work when i executed it manually?
[09:26] <ZeiP> Hi. Has anyone stumbled upon PHP-FPM returning empty response body for all queries expect /status (but including /ping)?
[09:26] <ZeiP> The logs seem to tell nothing and it's clear that the script is executed properly, as the headers are there
[09:27] <Triffid_Hunter> rightnow: no.. why would it?
[09:28] <folf> rightnow, I obviously don't know what is inside the script, but if you open a terminal as christopher and run /home/christopher/bin/backup-db.sh (without calling bash on the script) then cron should be able to also run it just fine
[09:28] <gwokamollaye> tynan: don't pm, keep it in the channel
[09:28] <gwokamollaye> !alien | tynan
[09:28] <Eryk> Hi, could anybody help me with midi on Ubuntu?
[09:28] <rightnow> folf: Ok, i get what you mean! Sorry i'm a noob.. It doesnt run without "bash" in front, it says permission deined
[09:29] <lyze> rightnow, chmod +x /home/christopher/bin/backup-db.sh
[09:29] <rightnow> lyze: : ok it runs now !
[09:29] <rightnow> trying the cron again
[09:33] <tynan> gwokamollaye: so there would definitely be dependency problems
[09:33] <lyze> rightnow, basically that command sets the "x" flag. So the executable flag for the file. If that one isn't set you can't run execute it c;
[09:33] <gwokamollaye> tynan: i guarantee it, just sudo apt install nmap
[09:36] <rightnow> lyze: yeah, im familiar with it!
[09:36] <u__> Hi , How I can disable the internal microphone?
[09:36] <rightnow> running /home/christ...../backup-db.sh  works now, without bash
[09:36] <u__> ??
[09:36] <rightnow> but crontab still says (CRON) error (can't fork)
[09:37] <u__> How I can disable the internal microphone?
[09:37] <u__>  
[09:37] <gwokamollaye> u__: http://www.noobslab.com/2016/03/how-to-disable-blacklist-your-laptop.html
[09:40] <Eryk> Could anybody help me with midi playing?
[09:41] <RtMF> this help? :-P
[09:41] <lyze> !ask | Eryk
[09:41] <Eryk> Okay :)
[09:42] <folf> lyze, where can I see all the options for the "!" commands? I was thinking it might be possible to e.g. link to the chmod manual page?
[09:43] <lyze> folf, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <rightnow> folf, Triffid_Hunter: sudo crontab -e now says: 44 11 * * * /home/christopher/bin/backup-db.sh       running /home/christopher/bin/backup-db.sh from shell works.. But it still says "Cant fork"
[09:45] <rightnow> Any clues?
[09:46] <Triffid_Hunter> rightnow: no idea, can't fork usually means you have too many processes running or you've done something weird with ulimit
[09:46] <rightnow> ok
[09:46] <rightnow> hmm weird.. its a kinda fresh install with nothing special except php and mysql
[09:49] <reisi> hi everyone! just upgraded to kubuntu 16.04 and now virtualbox/vagrant guest with nfs shared folder is unable to lock files, read/write io works fine; syslog contains "lockd: cannot monitor XXX" where XXX is the name of the vagrant box ("debian-jessie"), any ideas?
[09:50] <chrisss123456> a new ubuntu update has messed up my scrolling: it randomly jumps to the top of webpages while scrolling down for no reason. any ideas?
[10:01] <Kalipi> l
[10:01] <venter> hi guys
[10:02] <venter> how i can get the IP address of pc using Windows on the network or workgroug?
[10:03] <venter> any linux command
[10:08] <alexbligh1> What is the correct configuration of /etc/network/interfaces for a bridge such that 'ifup -a' does not complain about br0 already being up AND it has both ipv4 and ipv6 addresses? I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/18774382/ and get "RTNETLINK answers: File exists" / "Failed to bring up br0".
[10:08] <neil_> venter, you might be able to scan for the i.p.  ... btw how would you know if you found it?
[10:09] <venter> neil using #netdiscover ? or any related tool
[10:11] <venter> #neil ??
[10:11] <neil_> venter, yes
[10:12] <aash> how to install stockfish on ubuntu..?any help
[10:12] <venter> #neil thanks, but still netdiscover not giving much info
[10:13] <neil_> venter, you don't have access to the windows machine to find out it ip... can you interigate the dhcp server?
[10:14] <Silenced> Hey guys. I tried installing some package in ubunutu . Which unfortunately doesn't install due to some dependency . So if i had to install some other new packages, I am not able to as the same error keeps showing up that came when i tried to install the other package
[10:14] <neil_> venter, what does the dhcp service?
[10:15] <Silenced> So how am i supposed to recover from this situation ?
[10:15] <Silenced> I am using "apt" package manager
[10:15] <RtMF> Silenced: generally, apt-get -f install
[10:15] <Silenced> RtMF: That didn't work
[10:16] <Triffid_Hunter> Silenced: is that the infuriatingly useless "... but it won't be installed" message?
[10:16] <Silenced> Triffid_Hunter: Nope some failure in some file
[10:16] <neil_> Silenced, have you done a fresh "apt-get update"
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> Silenced  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[10:18] <Silenced> MonkeyDust: Will check it out.
[10:20] <neil_> alexbligh1, I am not an expert.. but it appears you are doing something strange there... it looks like you are trying to use bind some interfaces together... and bridge them as well.. is this right?
[10:21] <sujan> hi
[10:24] <alexbligh1> neil_, yup. eth0 and eth1 are in a bond, and I want them on a bridge
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> alexbligh1  souns more for the channel ##networking
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> sounds*
[10:24] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[10:32] <aash> how to install stockfishon ubuntu?
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> !find fishon
[10:34] <aash> ubottu: stockfish ?
[10:34] <bapun> a smart bot
[10:34] <aash> :)
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> the only woman who says she's not intelligent
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> aash  is that a game?
[10:35] <aash> MonkeyDust: Yes,chess engine.
[10:35] <neil_> alexbligh1, I am not don't know much about bonding.. have you tested that the bonding interface is working?
[10:36] <alexbligh1> neil_, yes it worked fine before I moved the things to the bridge interface
[10:36] <bapun> lol
[10:36] <hateball> aash: judging by the website you just download the zip and unpack it, binaries inside
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> aash  http://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/4353/how-to-install-stockfish-on-ubuntu
[10:36] <aash> hateball: i trieed apt-get install scid and apt-get install stockfish
[10:38] <Silenced> MonkeyDust: That didn't work
[10:38] <aash> these pacages were installedd.
[10:38] <aash> MonkeyDust: exactllythis one i tried.
[10:38] <Silenced> MonkeyDust: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[10:39] <neil_> alexbligh1, could  network manager be interfering?
[10:39] <alexbligh1> neil_, I doubt it, it's a server and does not have it installed
[10:40] <neil_> alexbligh1, ok
[10:41] <aash> MonkeyDust: o/
[10:42] <aash> MonkeyDust: after installatio howto load these.
[10:42] <neil_> alexbligh1, I suggest that you comment out all the pre-up lines and see what happens... I just have three options in my bridge ... bridge_ports, bridge_stp, bridge_fd
[10:43] <alexbligh1> neil_, are you running with a static IPv4 and IPv6 address? I believe that is the cause
[10:44] <neil_> alexbligh1, I only use IPv4 ... I see no point in IPv6 on a local lan.
[10:47] <aash> any help on  installing stockfish??
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> aash  if you don't get an answer here, contact the author ... scroll down ... https://www.mankier.com/6/stockfish
[10:53] <Dark_Blue_Bird> hello
[10:53] <Dark_Blue_Bird> Ubuntu community
[10:54] <neil_> alexbligh1, the ipv4 setup seems OK , try without the ipv6 setup.
[10:54] <Dark_Blue_Bird> after tryharding too much with arch I'm here
[10:55] <aash> MonkeyDust: after that how to load scid  tools..Please help.
[10:59] <veggi3s0> hi
[10:59] <veggi3s0> do any of you use dm-crypt or know about it? how am i supposed to enter my password if usb doesnt work during disk decrpyt password entering?
[11:00] <Jakey3> i've clone a project on git hub but i dont see the files on another branch in termanal
[11:00] <Jakey3> ?
[11:00] <Jakey3> git clone, clones all the files ?
[11:03] <vlt> Jakey3: /join #git
[11:04] <vlt> veggi3s0: You could put a lightweight ssh server into initramfs, use a serial connection, use a PS/2 keyboard, or just make USB work ;-)
[11:07] <vlt> veggi3s0: If the kernel mosule for your USB is really not available before decrypting the root fs you might have to put it into /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and rebuild initrd.img.
[11:21] <rightnow> folf, Triffid_Hunter: an update on my crontab script that says "cannot fork". I changed the systemd max threads from default 512 to 5000. Rebooted the machine, and now it works! Thanks alot for the help and leading me to the right direction!
[11:29] <Jon777> hello
[11:33] <blut> How can I let a preseed/early_command run in the background? My command is currently http://paste.ubuntu.com/18779153/ and the 'sh /kill-partman.sh &' doesn't go to the background, eventhough I can run the exact command in the console during the installation and it works. Any ideas?
[11:33] <folf> aash, please include all possible information. As far as I can understand, you actually do not have a problem installing the packages, but setting up the program, so go here http://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/4353/how-to-install-stockfish-on-ubuntu or find other information on the relevant webpages
[11:45] <rebel> Hi there! Running xenial, and am wondering which repo I should use for PHP: default repos or ondrej's PPA. Main concern is: which one has security updates faster and by what kind of margin.
[11:46] <hateball> !ppa | rebel
[12:03] <Codfection> hello. I have seen many top programmers using macbooks.. does that mean OS X is better than linux? should I get one (but it will break the bank). be honest please.
[12:04] <hateball> !ot | Codfection, try here perhaps
[12:05] <ericb2> Codfection, I'm using Mac OS X since a while, but I currently am using Linux quasi-exclusively since ~ two months
[12:06] <ericb2> Codfection, the problem was (at least for me) there were some things only working on Mac OS X and not in Linux. This is definitely ended now, and I no  longer use it.
[12:06] <Codfection> oh. so I dont need it. and I can use ubuntu instead? ericb2
[12:06] <ericb2> Codfection, but the most important is the quality of the hardware.
[12:07] <ericb2> Codfection, honestly, and IMHO, if you have some skills (like be handy with the terminal), you can
[12:07] <ericb2> Codfection, else, this could be difficult, and a bad user experience.
[12:07] <ericb2> in some words : it depends ;-)
[12:08] <Codfection> thank you so much ericb2
[12:08] <ericb2> you're welcome :)
[12:13] <ubone_> Codfection, use the mini.iso then sudo apt install i3 xinit
[12:18] <Clarkopus> #nothing
[12:19] <leeyaa> hello
[12:19] <leeyaa> will the nodejs LTS version from 6.x tree be included in xenial repos ?
[12:20] <leeyaa> it comes out Oct 2016
[12:35] <needle> hello there, I am using now a ubuntu live system and I am connected via wifi. Is there any command howto find or save a wpa_supplicant.conf file in live-ubuntu system?
[12:36]  * needle wanted to save the current running wpa_supplicant.conf for later use or other systems
[12:36] <sruli> i am trying to connect to vpn using nmcli but want to set a timeout of 15 seconds, from the man page, i use option "--wait=15" but i get an error that its an unknown parameter using 16.04 (in 14.04 man page the option is --timeout=, tried that and same result)
[12:36] <sruli> would anyone know how i can add a connection timeout with nmcli?
[12:41] <mcfrisk> is there some docs explaining ubuntu 14.04 LTS kernels and how to update them? Seeing some crashes on vmware with 3.16 and wondering if switching to newer ones is possible.
[12:43] <sruli> mcfrisk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[12:44] <mcfrisk> sruli: thanks!
[12:45] <sruli> np
[12:46] <Gnomethrower> Just a quick note - Thank you to everyone who sits in here and helps people
[12:46] <Gnomethrower> you're all awesome for doing that
[12:48] <foormea> hi, is there a dedicated ubuntu server channel?
[12:48] <foormea> duh, got it
[12:48] <foormea> :)
[12:50] <ericb2> I'm searching people to test a software on x86_64. It has been built on Gnome-Ubuntu 15.10, so should work on any recent distribution.  I put an en-US to be downloaded here : http://adullact.net/projects/ooolight/
[12:51] <ericb2> thansk in advance to contact me in private for further explanations ;-)
[12:57] <precise> Ok, SO I have Xenial Server on a remote machine, I was using said machine on site and left a process open. Now I am remote (compared to the machine) and would like to SSH into the machine, how do I get back to my screen instance of that process? I have SSH set with key-pair, DDNS, everything is setup except for the screen "sharing", I hesitate to call it screen because it is server, but whatever. Is there
[12:57] <precise> a documented way to do this?
[13:00] <EriC^^> precise: screen -ls
[13:00] <EriC^^> to list the sessions, then screen -r pid.... to attach
[13:02] <precise> What is the PID?
[13:02] <precise> MY output:
[13:02] <precise> 	1840.tty1.ubuntu-server	(07/07/2016 08:03:02 PM)	(Attached)
[13:02] <precise> Pardon the ASCII :P
[13:05] <akik> normal text is ascii
[13:06] <precise> My mistake :P Just apologizing for the unknown characters...
[13:09] <woot-0854> is the pid of that screen 1840
[13:09] <woot-0854> screen -x ubuntu-server should work
[13:10] <sruli> i am trying to connect to vpn using nmcli but want to set a timeout of 15 seconds, from the man page, i use option "--wait=15" but i get an error that its an unknown parameter using 16.04 (in 14.04 man page the option is --timeout=, tried that and same result)
[13:10] <sruli> would anyone know how i can add a connection timeout with nmcli?
[13:10] <woot-0854> precise: ^^
[13:12] <precise> woot-0854, EriC^^: Got it to work, I had to detach the screen session with -d, and then reattach with -r, select by PID. From what I understand woot-0854 this basically does the same thing as your advice with the -x option. I referenced this stackexchange post here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/187001/there-are-screens-in-the-list-but-no-screen-to-be-resumed
[13:12] <precise> Thanks for your guys help!
[13:12] <malice`> Hi! I've got ubuntu 14.04 and it features the stone age version of sbcl package. How can I get the medieval, or never?
[13:12] <woot-0854> grats, np.
[13:12] <malice`> sbcl is a Common Lisp compiler. I could compile it by myself, but I can't see why my OS shouldn't allow me to do that by package manager
[13:14] <whallz> is there an applet like network manager for bluetooth i can execute like nm-applet to add to my status bar?
[13:14] <precise> sruli: Are you using the option as so (no quotes): "--wait=15"? Or as so: "--wait 15"?
[13:15] <sruli> precise: no quotes
[13:16] <precise> Sorry, my bad. I meant in relation to the equals sign in the first option.
[13:16] <sruli> precise: i tried both... with and without =
[13:16] <woot-0854> sruli: did you strace the process?
[13:18] <sruli> woot-0854: no, how would i do that and how would that help, it gives an error "unknown parameter --wait"
[13:20] <woot-0854> man strace; strace -o ~/strace.out python ../path/to/script --options-stuff
[13:21] <sruli> woot-0854: i am not running it from scripts, just in terminal "nmcli con up id vpn1 --wait=15"
[13:22] <woot-0854> strace -o ~/strace.out nmcli con up id vpn1 --wait=15
[13:22] <woot-0854> less ~/strace.out
[13:22] <Guest65258> hello
[13:23] <woot-0854> and try vim read it from the bottom up
[13:23] <woot-0854> hi
[13:25] <Guest65258> exit
[13:27] <woot-0854> kek
[13:29] <sruli> woot-0854: nothing special in strace, "wrtie(2, "Unknown parameter: --wait=15\n", 29) = 29"
[13:29] <sruli> woot-0854: thats the only reference to the wait in strace
[13:30] <woot-0854> what is the read above it?
[13:31] <woot-0854>  in vim   run     :setf strace
[13:32] <sruli> woot-0854: open("/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/charset.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[13:32] <woot-0854> can you pastbin it to me?
[13:32] <lukas_> My Desktop: http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/31148632/Bildschirmfoto_2016-07-08_15-15-25.png Whats your opinion?
[13:32] <sruli> the full strace.out file?
[13:33] <woot-0854> ya but its kind private... it contains paths and information about your filesystem tree
[13:33] <sruli> ok, will pm it to u
[13:33] <woot-0854> k
[13:34] <woot-0854> but it sounds like just an unknown paramater
[13:36] <sruli> woot-0854: yes, but its in the man page, question is how can i set a timeout for connecting using nmcli?
[13:37] <sruli> woot-0854: sent u IM, paste expires in 10 min
[13:41] <bmcfee> i'm trying to print to a (password-protected) samba printer from a ubuntu machine. printing fails with "NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE", but it never provided me with an authentication prompt. anyone have ideas as to what's going on?
[13:44] <ircnode0> Is there a way to type unicode by alias? For example, I want to type "white circle" to get ○ rather than x25cb hex code (in ctrl+shift+u mode).
[13:44] <woot-0854> write(1, "VPN connection successfully acti"..., 112) = 112
[13:45] <Caterpillar> hi, I need to know what is the kernel version of 16.04 ISOs
[13:45] <hateball> Caterpillar: 4.4
[13:46] <Caterpillar> hateball: thx
[13:46] <hateball> 4.4..0
[13:47] <ircnode0> hateball: use "uname -a" this command later on
[13:47] <hateball> ircnode0: I'm not the one asking, I am fully aware of uname
[13:47]  * woot-0854 accidental middle click
[13:48] <ircnode0> hateball: I am sorry addressed to wrong person, the message is for Caterpillar ^^;;
[13:48] <Caterpillar> ircnode0: I asked because I am not able to run the distro due a too recent motherboard. Then I asked about the kernel vesrion
[13:50] <hateball> Caterpillar: what motherboard is this? usually there are kernel parameters that lets you work around bugs
[13:51] <hateball> but if you *need* 4.6 or something, then it is trickier
[13:53] <arca_vorago> Wait, so apt-get is being deprecated and just `apt` is the right command to use?
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> arca_vorago  not deprecated, apt is just shorter to type
[13:55] <arca_vorago> so same functionality?
[13:55] <Caterpillar> hateball: gigabyte 970A-DS3P
[13:55] <rockfordal> hi. Could use some help. i totally lost Ethernet, (except WIFI) on a Toshiba Sattelite.  Only see lo, wlan0
[13:56] <Caterpillar> hateball: it works only with 4.6 kernel. I don't use ubuntu as my first distro, I only had to do some tries to test a LSI raid hardware board
[13:57] <hateball> Caterpillar: doubt it only works with 4.6 since I am seeing posts from 2013
[13:57] <hateball> some mentioning setting iommu=soft
[13:57] <nils_> Caterpillar, what isn't working with kernels before 4.6?
[13:58] <nils_> getting a current kernel on Ubuntu is a PITA, involves downloading the deb packages and installing them manually.
[13:59] <nils_> at least they managed to land on a LTS version this time.
[13:59] <hateball> Well once yakkety is released you'll be able to grab that kernel from 16.04s repos
[13:59] <Caterpillar> nils_: hateball usb devices are not provided with enough power
[13:59] <hateball> But between releases, sure
[14:00] <nils_> I see
[14:00] <nils_> hateball, that's a few months out though ;)
[14:01] <hateball> nils_: yes
[14:01] <hateball> nils_: you have the linux-image-generic-lts-* packages
[14:02] <nils_> yeah I know of them, I tend to use them on the (t)rusty machines
[14:02] <hateball> it's always that way in non-rolling distro, cant have both stability and bleeding edge :p
[14:03] <nils_> I usually roll my own, but I can hardly do that when working for a client since the regular staff won't/can't maintain that
[14:05] <chl_> I keep getting "linux-image-extra-3.19.0-61-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.19.0-61-generic but it is not installed" when I do apt-get update, however my kernel version is 3.19.0-49-generic, and I cant get it removed, any tips?
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> chl_  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[14:07] <chl_> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> chl_  try   sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[14:12] <chl_> Mony:  I think I found the error.. /boot has no space left
[14:13] <chl_> sorry Mony
[14:13] <Wulf> Hi
[14:13] <Wulf> Trying to install ubuntu from my own mirror. Security is still fetched from security.ubuntu.com, which doesn't work in my case. How can I change this?
[14:20] <neil_> hi ... I am doing a course and I need to install android studio software ... the instructions say I need 'javac' ... when I try to run it I get 6 different packages to install ... which should I install?
[14:24] <pesari> Wulf: you can preseed the security server as well
[14:25] <nils_> neil_, I'd suggest openjdk-8-jdk
[14:26] <neil_> nils_, thanks
[14:27] <Bassem> can any one help me how to update flash player with install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz
[14:35] <Wulf> pesari: I'm using an iso image. Can I still preseed it?
[14:35] <chl_> MonkeyDust: I ended up reinstalling
[14:39] <cwolford> running xenial and wondering how i can change launcher icons. some icons for programs installed via software center are showing as generic purple diamond icons instead of the actual program icon it should be. right-clicking on them does not give me an option to change the launcher's properties, so i want to know how i can do it manually.
[14:40] <Bassem> can any one help me update flashplayer ver 11.2.202.626
[14:41] <phonejackapple> hi, need some assistance with AWK
[14:41] <Wulf> pesari: but yeah, maybe preseeding is what I really need. Could also get rid of some other settings
[14:41] <Wulf> phonejackapple: pinfo gawk
[14:42] <cwolford> Bassem, try update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
[14:42] <cwolford> or sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
[14:42] <Bassem> cwolford, how can i do that i'm kinda new to ubuntu
[14:43] <Bassem> cwolford, sudo: update-flashplugin-nonfree: command not found
[14:56] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[14:56] <CountryfiedLinux> Would it be a good idea to remove vlc before installing the vlc snap?
[14:56] <uzamaki_naruto> Hi!...I`m new to IRC
[14:57] <uzamaki_naruto> what are some do`s and dont`s that I have to keep in mind
[14:57] <CountryfiedLinux> uzamaki_naruto, Refer to the guidelines link at the top.
[14:57] <tgm4883> uzamaki_naruto: DO: use this channel for support questions. DONT: Use this channel for non-support chat
[15:02] <DJones> uzamaki_naruto: If your speaking to a specific person, start the text with persons nick so that they will get a hilight message
[15:08] <CountryfiedLinux> Where are snap packages saved?
[15:08] <riz0n> Hello guys, I have an HP DL380 G3 server that I have installed Ubuntu LTS on. No GUI. Is there a way to change the system from loading the ATI Rage drivers to just loading Generic VGA drivers? The ATI drivers are causing my system to crash after so long of running.
[15:09] <Wulf> uzamaki_naruto: if you have a technical problem, try putting yourself in the position of someone who reads your question. Is that possibly enough information to give a useful answer?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> riz0n  FYI: there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:17] <riz0n> Righ now, as it stands, when the system boots, eventually the system changes and the size of the letters on the screen get very, very small. I want standard VGA with the big letters. Any help would be appreciated!
[15:17] <riz0n> MonkeyDust: I am in there and posted the question there, too :)
[15:18] <riz0n> Honestly, I've never had an Ubuntu system give me the kind of problems this one is showing. On last boot, somehow I was lucky and was able to get it to load regular VGA. The NMI "Dazed and confused" error never showed up.
[15:19] <genii> riz0n: vga=786
[15:21] <riz0n> genii: I am guessing that is what I need. The resolution is a problem because I normally don't have a monitor connected to the machine. But in the event I do need to connect one, I want to be able to connect my early 90's IBM B&W CRT if need be, and it just work.
[15:22] <riz0n> but the video drivers are too because they are causing the system to go down the toilet after a couple of days of runtime.
[15:22] <Hulio> hi, anyone know steps to setup sftp server in ubuntu?
[15:22] <Hulio> basically i want to upload files to ubuntu sftp
[15:23] <Hulio> thanks if you're willing to assist me
[15:23] <tgm4883> Hulio: 'apt install ssh' ?
[15:23] <Hulio> ok, i'll do that.
[15:25] <Hulio> ok...ssh is installed , what is the next steps?
[15:25] <lyze> Hey guys, Friend of mine lost his sysadmin because of personal reasons and now I should try to fix some bugs. They however don't know the root password of mysql and sites like wordpress and everything depend on it. (It's really badly configured) Is there a way to create a new user without access to the database? I really don't want to change the root database user password.
[15:25] <hey2> Just found this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
[15:25] <SchrodingersScat> Hulio: now try sftp user@address
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> hey2  what's in the clip?
[15:26] <Hulio> how to create a new user and assign pass?
[15:26] <hey2> Its a college student who bought a laptop w/ ubuntu
[15:26] <Hulio> SchrodingersScat, :)
[15:26] <hey2> and called the news because she can't use it
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> hey2  great, but not for this channel
[15:26] <nicomachus> lyze: you're going to need to get ahold of that former sysadmin and get the root password...
[15:26] <hey2> and its a news story about Ubuntu
[15:26] <lyze> nicomachus, He's gone. Completely
[15:26] <hey2> MonkeyDust, I thought it was relevant, as it is specifically about Ubuntu?
[15:26] <lyze> nicomachus, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/resetting-permissions.html and you can reset the root password apparently.
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> Hulio: it's the same as your credentials on the machine.  so if you have user account 'Hulio' on it, then it would be sftp Hulio@address  #then your password when prompted, unless you use ssh keys
[15:26] <nicomachus> lyze: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
[15:27] <tgm4883> hey2: not relevant as it's not a support question. Also not relevant as it's a 6 year old story
[15:27] <hey2> Well, my bad. I had never seen it before.
[15:27] <tgm4883> !ot | hey2
[15:27] <Hulio> SchrodingersScat, i'm asking how to make a new user /pass to use sftp
[15:28] <SchrodingersScat> !adduser | Hulio
[15:28] <Hulio> wow, can't you just tell me?
[15:28] <SchrodingersScat> Hulio: there's a couple different ways, I use 'adduser'
[15:29] <SchrodingersScat> Hulio: bot is also there for a reason, it gave a more complete answer than me :^)
[15:29] <tgm4883> Hulio: the SFTP users are just regular users on your system
[15:31] <Hulio> SchrodingersScat, got it..i was able to add user
[15:31] <Hulio> i assume sftp is using port 23 right?
[15:31] <Hulio> by default right?
[15:31] <tgm4883> Hulio: 22
[15:31] <tgm4883> Hulio: 23 is the default port for telnet
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> Hulio  like ssh
[15:32] <Hulio> ok 22, then, i'll open port forwarding for it
[15:32] <Hulio> let me give it a try to login with a client
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> Hulio  in a terminal, type this ... less /etc/services
[15:33] <CodeMouse92> Is there a way to remove Online Accounts via the Terminal? I am unable to remove accounts from the Online Accounts... screen. (I click, confirm, and nothing happens.)
[15:33] <CodeMouse92> Specficially trying to remove Google
[15:40] <nicomachus> CodeMouse92: is there a reason you can't do it from the GUI? I know how to do it from there, just not sure about CLI
[15:40] <CodeMouse92> nicomachus: Again, I've tried multiple times. Click the account, click Remove Account, and confirm Remove. And then, nothing happens. Tried at least three dozen times. Restarted computer repeatedly, etc etc.
[15:41] <nicomachus> CodeMouse92: check in /home/$USER/.config/libaccounts-glib/
[15:41] <nicomachus> with $USER being your user
[15:41] <nicomachus> there should be a few files in tehre, one for each account.
[15:41] <nicomachus> you can try deleting them from there.
[15:41] <CodeMouse92> I only see two accounts: accounts.db and accounts.db-journal
[15:41] <CodeMouse92> But, since the only account is Google, I could try backing up and deleting these anyway
[15:42] <nicomachus> what does accounts.db look like if you open it?
[15:42] <CodeMouse92> A mess. :P
[15:42] <CodeMouse92> It looks like a database opened with a text editor
[15:42] <CodeMouse92> I can see the Google account mentioned in there, thoguh
[15:42] <nicomachus> hmmm... so it does.
[15:43] <bewresu> who's using anoise? is it working on 16.04 yet?
[15:43] <tgm4883> bewresu: was it broken?
[15:43] <irregular> How can I have screenshots (using the printscreen button) default to copying to the clipboard? Currently the printscreen button takes a screenshot but asks me if i want to copy to clipboard or save it and does neither
[15:43] <CodeMouse92> nicomachus: Let me install sqlitebrowser and see if i can edit that way
[15:45] <odroid> ez ihr kleinen pisser
[15:45] <bewresu> tgm4883: this is what I know https://bugs.launchpad.net/anoise/+bug/1553518
[15:45] <Guest86501> lot of things had change in ubuntu
[15:45] <nacc> bewresu: uh, is anoise only available from a PPA?
[15:46] <Guest86501> cause canonical is trying to make money now
[15:46] <nacc> Guest86501: FUD. stop it.
[15:46] <CodeMouse92> nicomachus: Okay, if you open /home/$USER/.config/libaccounts-glib/accounts.db with sqlitebrowser, you can remove the accounts that way
[15:46] <tgm4883> bewresu: looks like there are a few workarounds in that thread
[15:46] <nacc> bewresu: the right place to ask, afaict, is the anoise upstream/ppa owner
[15:47] <tgm4883> bewresu: but you'd have to bug the developer for that
[15:47] <bewresu> nacc: I'm still in 14.04 and in 14.04 it is PPA only
[15:47] <nacc> bewresu: it's PPA only everywhere (afaict)
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> !info anoise
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> !find anoise
[15:48] <Dark_Blue_Bird> does Ubuntu have something like AUR?
[15:48] <tgm4883> Dark_Blue_Bird: PPAs
[15:48] <riz0n> OK guys, I uncommented a line in the Grub config that put it in 640x480 then "update-grub" and it booted into 640x480. Any way to see what video drivers are loading and change them to just standard VGA? Or should it be standard VGA since there is no GUI?
[15:49] <bewresu> well, um, thanks anyway
[15:49] <Dark_Blue_Bird> okay good can I access PPAs with apt-get?
[15:49] <tgm4883> Dark_Blue_Bird: yes, once you enable the PPA that you want to use
[15:49] <Dark_Blue_Bird> okay thx
[15:50] <nicomachus> do we have an upgrade path from 15.10 to 16.04 yet?
[15:50] <nacc> nicomachus: yes
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> Dark_Blue_Bird  but ppa's do not upgrade when you install en newer ubuntu release
[15:50] <tgm4883> nicomachus: we've had one for a long time...
[15:50] <nacc> nicomachus: the normal one has been open since 16.04 released
[15:50] <nacc> nicomachus: just not lts -> lts yet
[15:52] <nicomachus> maybe it's 16.04.1 I was waiting on...
[15:52] <nicomachus> idk I got an email yesterday warning me that 15.10 is EOL soon, so I should probably back up everything and take care of that this weekend.
[15:52] <nacc> nicomachus: yeah, 15.10 goes eol in a few weeks
[15:53] <nicomachus> oooooook.
[15:53] <nacc> nicomachus: but given you were already on a development release, you might as well upgrade :)
[15:53]  * nicomachus goes to backup
[15:53] <tgm4883> ?
[15:54] <nicomachus> yea, tgm4883, idk what he's talking about. 15.10 isn't developmental
[15:54] <nacc> non-lts release :)
[15:54] <nacc> mis-typed
[15:59] <Extreme21355> how can I change default python version?
[16:01] <tgm4883> Extreme21355: update the python symlink
[16:01] <Pici> Extreme21355: to what?
[16:01] <Pici> Extreme21355: do you mean changing from python2 to python3?
[16:02] <Extreme21355> Pici: yes for example
[16:02] <Extreme21355> tgm4883: could you give me an example for the symlink?
[16:02] <Pici> Extreme21355: You don'
[16:02] <Pici> t
[16:02] <Extreme21355> Pici: because it will break system links with the default python path right?
[16:02] <Pici> Extreme21355: python is supposed to always point to python2, and python3 is python3.  Changing this *will* break your system.
[16:02] <tgm4883> Extreme21355: why do you want to do that?
[16:03] <Extreme21355> Pici: ok, nevermind; thanks a lot tough
[16:03] <tgm4883> "will probably break"
[16:03] <Extreme21355> tgm4883: was just asking myself if it was possible without breaking the system
[16:03] <tgm4883> Extreme21355: some things will probably break. There really isn't a reason to do so though
[16:03] <Pici> tgm4883: probably less of a chance now that 16.04 uses python3 by default, but not all scripts do that yet, and anything outside the Ubuntu sphere of influence assumes that python is 2 and python3 is 3.
[16:04] <tgm4883> Pici: I'd argue that it doesn't use python 3 by default
[16:05] <Pici> tgm4883: I mean it ships python3, and most of the system python scripts have been upgraded to use 3.  IMO "python" being python2.x is a standard and isn't affected by my suggestion that we ship 3 by default.
[16:07] <asad_> How can I configure my touchpad so that a three finger tap triggers a mouse middle click?
[16:07] <tgm4883> Pici: meh, then that is one of the only applications that we take that stance on. Also "uses" is different than "ships". I think we've shipped python 3 for a while now
[16:07] <asad_> Right now from what I've noticed tapping on the top right corner of the touchpad does that.
[16:07] <Pici> tgm4883: yeah, I guess.
[16:08] <marxS> How come when I try to use alias and run the command I get a segmentation fault?  http://paste.ofcode.org/yySgigcCMFRQU4k9fxfaeF
[16:08] <marxS> Whereas if I just input "./HDPVR2-testApp -f video.ts" it works fine
[16:08] <Hulio> SchrodingersScat, I am able to sftp files now...thanks for your help!   with AndFTP  on android
[16:08] <Hulio> SchrodingersScat, are oyu there? i say thanks
[16:10] <asad_> So does anyone know how?
[16:10] <tgm4883> !patience | asad_
[16:10] <EriC^^> marxS: try with a function maybe?
[16:11] <nicomachus> asad_: this guide is for 12.04 but should still work: https://askubuntu.com/questions/130393/how-to-configure-the-touchpad-middle-click
[16:11] <EriC^^> record() { ... "$1" ; }
[16:11] <asad_> !patience | tgm4883
[16:11] <tgm4883> um, ok?
[16:12] <marxS> EriC^^:  but how come the alias cmd doesnt work?
[16:13] <EriC^^> marxS: no idea
[16:13] <EriC^^> marxS: try set -x and then executing it and see how it parses it
[16:13] <arunpyasi> Helo people, is it possible to recover a HDD which is not detected by BIOS too ?
[16:15] <DArqueBishop> arunpyasi: if it's not detected by BIOS, then your only real hope is to take it to a data recovery service company.
[16:15] <prabhushakti> when i log out a command line interface pops up what to do?
[16:16] <prabhushakti> i can't switch desktops!
[16:17] <tgm4883> prabhushakti: when you boot your computer, does it go to a login screen or to a command line interface?
[16:17] <SchrodingersScat> Hulio: great, good luck
[16:18] <prabhushakti> yes
[16:18] <prabhushakti> i use startx
[16:18] <nacc> tgm4883: Pici: no it 100% breaks 16.04 too
[16:18] <nacc> it's a violation of PEP to change the link
[16:18] <Hulio> SchrodingersScat, you're genius and the best of the bested
[16:20] <Hulio> how to do  list files in directory and get all total size ?
[16:20] <Hulio> in command line?
[16:21] <akik> Hulio: "ls -al; du -k"
[16:21] <EriC^^> Hulio: du -sh /path/to/dir
[16:23] <EriC^^> Hulio: du -h /path/to/dir
[16:30] <arunpyasi> DArqueBishop: the thing is that, I don't need the data
[16:30] <arunpyasi> but want the HDD to work thats all
[16:32] <DArqueBishop> arunpyasi: if it's not detected by the BIOS, it's a lost cause. Dispose of it and get a new one.
[16:33] <Jon777> hey
[16:37] <dna113p> Need help troubleshooting. I use ubuntu mate with compiz. Going fine for months and today i start up and have no window features (can't alt tab, no exit/minimize window buttons, my workspace grid dissapeared) I have no idea how to fix or why it broke in the first place
, did you install any updates?
[16:38] <dna113p> Yes was just typing that the only culprit I can remember was that I was having some weird issue with python and neovim and removed and reinstalled python3
[16:39] <Jon777> hmm
[16:39] <Jon777> 16.04?
[16:40] <dna113p> yes
[16:44] <Jon777> not sure, theres nothing that specific out on the web. I would try a fresh install make sure everythings updated then reinstall. you could try a different kernel like 4.7 then install compiz
[16:45] <dna113p> Jon777, I figured it out. Somehow ccsm had gotten removed and reinstalling it fixed the issues
[16:45] <dna113p> idk
[16:45]  * nacc would not suggest ever removing either python or python3 ... and sort of surprised it let you? gnome & unity, at least, depend on it
[16:45] <Jon777> noice
[16:45] <Tyiese> anyone ever have issues with downloading things like chrome, vivaldi, flash (pretty much any download)?
[16:45] <Jon777> you seem to know more than me about linux
[16:46] <Jon777> i would of been stuck lol
[16:46] <Jon777> not really Tyiese i usually use debian so its just a .deb file
[16:46] <nacc> Jon777: generally, you don't install a different kernel to fix a regression like that
[16:46] <nacc> Tyiese: 'downloading' ?
[16:46] <dna113p> Jon777, lol I have had so many issues in the past with GPU drivers in ubuntu that I think i just had a panic reaction
[16:47] <nacc> Tyiese: do you mean `apt-get` ?
[16:47] <Jon777> yeah, my laptop has an amd gpu and drivers are horrible
[16:47] <nacc> dna113p: did you have to force remove python3 (or how did you, if using stock ubuntu with unity?)
[16:47] <Jon777> i tried the open source optimized drivers and they seemed to work better
[16:47] <Tyiese> Yes. It gives me an error messahe
[16:47] <nacc> Tyiese: pastebing the output of `apt-get update`
[16:48] <dna113p> nacc, I had to force remove it, I am using ubuntu mate with compiz no unity though
[16:48] <Jon777> i hate unity
[16:49] <dna113p> Ubuntu Mate is my favorite
[16:49] <Jon777> yeah gnome 2.0
[16:49] <Jon777> its like it alteast
[16:49] <dna113p> Yeah its amazing
[16:49] <nacc> focus! stay on topic :)
[16:49] <Jon777> linux mints not bad either
[16:49] <Jon777> cinnamons ok
[16:50] <nacc> dna113p: ok, python3 is pretty integral, so it's not surprising it removed other things that are key
[16:50] <nacc> dna113p: you may want to ensure your desktop is fully restored by installing the meta-package again, to be sure
[16:50] <Jon777> i wish i knew more about linux.
[16:51] <_cpo_> i've installed the hibernate via synaptics and tried to hibernate in the terminal with the command hibernate. after that, i've tried to reboot and ubuntu doesn't reboot. i don't get any terminal access. what can i do.:-) thanks!
[16:52] <_cpo_> also in the advanced options in the kernel parameters in the beginning of the boot process.
[16:55] <Toraxmalu> hi
[16:56] <nacc> _cpo_: so you hibernated (which should mean your computer has suspended to disk). You wake up and can't reboot? Or it doesn't wake up?
[16:56] <nacc> _cpo_: afaik, you don't need "hibernate" to hibernate, btw (cmiiw)
[16:57] <Toraxmalu> hase here someone experience with XEN?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> Toraxmalu  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:57] <Toraxmalu> thanks
[16:57] <justsomeguy> There is also the #xen channel.
[16:58] <_cpo_> nacc: yes, it does starts the kernel and hangs up. i've tried the recovery mod and the kernel hangs also up.
[16:59] <nacc> _cpo_: waking from hibernation, you mean?
[17:01] <_cpo_> nacc: yes, it wakes up, but the kernel hangs up and doesn't start gdm. furthermore i don't get access to the terminal.
[17:01] <nacc> _cpo_: what do you mean "hangs up"? can you pastebin where it appears to be stuck?
[17:03] <wwwi> hello
[17:03] <_cpo_> nacc: it's another computer, i transcribe.
[17:04] <nacc> _cpo_: sure
[17:04] <wwwi> I have an external hdd, where I save files from Windows. if I plug the drive an Ubuntu PC, will Ubuntu see the files?
[17:05] <wwwi> and the if I plug the drive to a Windows PC, will Windows again see the files?
[17:05] <_cpo_> nacc: i'm using the advanced in the grub menu and get the following: Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount ... [ ..... XXXXXX] clocksource: Switched to clocksource tsc
[17:06] <wwwi> the drive had some Windows and Macos install files too, from factory
[17:06] <_cpo_> nacc: in that moment there is no progress anymore.
[17:07] <wwwi> so, can Ubuntu see such drives? and would it change the drive after plugins it in,in such way that Windows no longer recognizes the drive?
[17:07] <Jakki> Hi
[17:07] <nacc> _cpo_: just to be sure, you did resume the same kernel you hibernated, right?
[17:08] <_cpo_> nacc: right!
[17:08] <nacc> _cpo_: ok
[17:08] <Jakki> ufw can block only ports or applications also? Like Windows Firewall?
[17:10] <_cpo_> nacc: now, i got the following message: resume:Cloud not stat the resume device file ' /dev/XXXX' . Please type in the full path name to try again or press ENTER to boot the system:
[17:11] <nacc> _cpo_: yeah, it seems like it's not finding your hibernated disk
[17:13] <_cpo_> nacc: thanks a lot. i did press ENTER and i got access to root terminal and removed the hibernate modules. thanks !!!!
[17:15] <Jakki> How block all applications?
[17:18] <bilb_ono> kind of long story: I have 2 ubuntu's - 1 has extra stuff for a software package on it - both 12.04. I was on the stock 12.04. I installed the new one with "install alongside" hopefully keeping the old ubuntu. I restart - some "grub rescue" thing comes up. Ok well that didn't work. I now want to get my files from my old stock ubuntu onto my external drive. I boot into try ubuntu. I see my hard drive in the list of devices. I double click it to ensure that my
[17:18] <bilb_ono> files are still on it. It says "authentication required to mount the device" I type in my old password - this doesn't work...
[17:19] <bilb_ono> any ideas what the password on this old file system might be?
[17:19] <bilb_ono> and epsecially, how I can get to my old files - using the terminal, etc.
[17:19] <tgm4883> bilb_ono: was it encrypted?
[17:19] <bilb_ono> tgm4883: nope
[17:19] <tgm4883> bilb_ono: then you shouldn't need a password to view the files
[17:21] <bilb_ono> tgm4883: ok... how about this. is there a way to boot into my old installation
[17:21] <bilb_ono> there should be right - considering I "installed alongside" ?
[17:21] <tortib> yep
[17:21] <tortib> bilb_ono, just boot into your current install
[17:21] <bilb_ono> cool. how do I do that?
[17:21] <tortib> then mount the partition using mount /dev/sda3 (change 3 to whichever partition the old data is on) /mnt
[17:22] <tortib> then you can grab your files from /mnt
[17:22] <bilb_ono> tortib: ok how would I boot into the current install? I am on "try ubuntu" right now
[17:22] <tortib> bilb_ono, just boot off your HDD?
[17:23] <tgm4883> tortib: you might want to read the original issue
[17:23] <bilb_ono> tortib: can you give more specifics on how to do that? I assume press F12 to enter setup menu
[17:23] <bilb_ono> then UEFI or legacy boot
[17:23] <bilb_ono> ill go to that menu at least
[17:25] <bilb_ono> ok so I have legacy boot - bus 04 dev 00 pci raid adapter, usb storage, cd/dvd drive, and onboard NIC
[17:25] <bilb_ono> would any of those be my HDD?
[17:25] <nikolam> hilbilly, does Memory test from 16.04 (Xubuntu) 64-bit DVD, takes into account it is testing Server/ECC RAM and not non-ECC? E.G. how to test ECC RAM?
[17:25] <bilb_ono> I mean I figure no... but
[17:25] <nikolam> I wanted to say hi.
[17:25] <bilb_ono> Other options include BIOS and diagnostics
[17:26] <nikolam> So what to use to test ECC RAM?
[17:26] <tgm4883> bilb_ono: your raid adapter, provided your hard drive was raided
[17:26] <bilb_ono> I figure its probably us 04 dev 00 pci raid adapter. But when I boot into that I get error: no such device: then a long string then grub rescue> _
[17:30] <bilb_ono> I take it the radio silence means Im pretty much screwed?
[17:30] <ezeike> Hey guys, just installed 16.04 and I cannot for the life of me get ssh pubkey auth to work. I've remade keys into rsa and ed25519 but the server (the 16.04) always complains about ssh-dss in /var/log/auth.log no matter what I do. What's the problem here?
[17:31] <tgm4883> bilb_ono: I'm at work and don't have the time to dig into that issue
[17:31] <bilb_ono> tgm4883: ok thanks for the response
[17:37] <ezeike> Alright, it's not the dss thing, it's just broken
[17:39] <justsomeguy> nikolam: MemTest86 supports testing ECC RAM.
[17:40] <eelstrebor> hmm, i wonder if my kids are going to websites that are infected with malware. i re-installed ubuntu and that fixed the mouse and touchpad problem for awhile but now the mouse pointer is erratic again
[17:40] <Jordan_U> eelstrebor: More likely a bug than malware.
[17:41] <nacc> ezeike: what does `ssh -vvv` from the client report?
[17:44] <rypervenche> ezeike: What client are you using? An old phone app perhaps?
[17:47] <rypervenche> ezeike: You can add -oHostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-dss to your SSH command and/or add PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes=+ssh-dss to your /etc/ssh/sshd_config, but you're allowing an insecure cipher that way. It depends on which end the problem exists.
[17:53] <ezeike> nacc: Good call on that, I had to add ssh-ed25519 to my client config file under PubKeyAcceptedKeyTypes. Never in 20 years have I had to do that geez
[17:53] <ezeike> rypervenche: was an up to date arch system
[17:53] <wwwi> hello
[17:54] <wwwi> I have an external hdd with Windows, no system files, can Ubuntu see them, if I connect it the my Ubuntu PC ?
[17:54] <wwwi> with Windows files
[17:56] <Tin_man> wwwi, yes
[17:58] <wwwi> Tin_man: ok, but will Ubuntu then, change the drive in such a way, that Windows will be unable to use it?
[17:58] <rantic_work> wwwi: All it does is mount the existing drive
[17:58] <rantic_work> wwwi: It's no different then plugging in a USB drive
[17:59] <wwwi> rantic_work: ok
[17:59] <wwwi> thank you both
[18:01] <Tin_man> no
[18:03] <Tin_man> just that windows can't read ext(x) in linux, but linux can read fat, and ntfs file systems.
[18:04] <vlt> wwwi: There’s a read-only mode for the mount command.
[18:10] <kalb0t> hey im new to linux os versions and currently running ubuntu gnome, does anyone know anywhere on the web or book that gives a good understanding of the os and how to get the best out of it
[18:10] <akik> Tin_man: you can install ext2fsd in windows. it enables r/w ext access
[18:12] <CodeMouse92> kalb0t: What topics are you interested in? For the command line, I recommend "The Linux Command Line" by William E. Shotts, Jr: http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[18:12] <CodeMouse92> That teaches you about the structure of the operating system, and how to use the Terminal (the heart of the OS). He starts from complete newbie-level and goes all the way up to advanced topics
[18:13] <kalb0t> CodeMouse92: Yes, CLI side of things and to also use it for php development, sql and cyber security
[18:13] <kalb0t> codemouse92: cheers :)#
[18:13] <CodeMouse92> kalb0t: That book would be a good place to start, then. From there, you can learn PHP, SQL, and security as separate topics.
[18:14] <CodeMouse92> kalb0t: Most developers learn technical topics in an OS-agnostic manner, and then apply their existing OS knowledge to it.
[18:15] <SchrodingersScat> kalb0t: 2nding cli as a way to 'get the most' out of a linux.  Can do a LOT even with limited knowledge
[18:16] <kalb0t> I have come to realise the power of the os cli just by setting up the os and updating installing software
[18:17] <Narwhaal> there is no power in ubuntu, just ease
[18:17] <TOROSA> Hello
[18:17] <CodeMouse92> Narwhaal: Hey, be nice. I use Ubuntu.
[18:17] <tgm4883> !ot
[18:17] <kalb0t> i read that ubuntu was the best linux to get for first timer
[18:18] <Narwhaal> so do I xD
[18:18] <Narwhaal> that's how I know
[18:18] <nanotaka> there is easier AMD driver installation in ubuntu :D
[18:18] <Hulio> Ubuntu is the key to heaven
[18:18] <Hulio> i love it!
[18:18] <Narwhaal> then you'd love archlinux + Unity even more
[18:18] <tgm4883> Can we stay on topic please?
[18:18] <TOROSA> I love ubuntu
[18:19] <Hulio> what's the topic?
[18:19] <compdoc> my key isnt working. still stuck on earth
[18:19] <kalb0t> Archlinux does look immense especially with the unity involved but i dont want to mess it up just yet :)
[18:19] <tgm4883> !topic
[18:19] <Narwhaal> apparently Ubuntu, which we were talking about
[18:19] <tgm4883> Narwhaal: this is the support channel. If you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:20] <Narwhaal> * #ubuntu-offtopic: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services :(
[18:20] <tgm4883> Narwhaal: so register?
[18:20] <Narwhaal> I have an account
[18:21] <gabriel_> can someone explain how tasksel works. Thanks!
[18:21] <tgm4883> Narwhaal: so identify then
[18:21] <Narwhaal> I have
[18:21] <gabriel_> i installed mate minimal a few days back using tasksel and then when i removed it, it took half of my applications with it :(
[18:22] <nanotaka> you removed the desktop environment?
[18:23] <Gregor3000> you can only install with tasksel, not uninstall
[18:23] <kalb0t> I am unable to join channel #ubuntu-offtopic it requires registering with services how do i do this?
[18:24] <tgm4883> !register | kalb0t
[18:24] <CodeMouse92> tgm4883: /whois says he's logged in.
[18:25] <tgm4883> CodeMouse92: who?
[18:25] <CodeMouse92> tgm4883: Narwhaal. Sorry, just realized that you were talking about kalb0t.
[18:25] <Narwhaal> stop hiliting me ._.
[18:25] <Gregor3000> gabriel_: removing desktop will remove applications that are part of the desktop meta package
[18:26] <nikolam> justsomeguy, Thanks, it looks proprietary but has downloadable ISO, there is also memtest.org dunno if dev of it stuck, but it's GPL
[18:26] <tgm4883> Gregor3000: taskel does that? That seems like bad design
[18:26] <yetitwo> h4fo3
[18:27] <TOROSA> Dev french here ?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[18:27] <gabriel_> Gregor3000, that's where it gets weird. it took the applications that were not a part of the desktop env. the ones that were there already before
[18:27] <Gregor3000> tgm4883: AFAIK tasksel is meant for installing not removing things. however removing desktop should remove the apps that were installed with the desktop. at least those that are actually part of the desktop.
[18:27] <Jordan_U> nikolam: justsomeguy: Memtest86+ is is Free Software, "Memtest86" is proprietary.
[18:28] <tumudifork> hello
[18:28] <Gregor3000> gabriel_: what was the command you used to uninstall the desktop?
[18:28] <nikolam> Jordan_U, yes, I figured it, + one needs support it seems
[18:28] <tumudifork> does  ubuntu simply overwites the files? after upgrade?
[18:28] <tumudifork> Gregor3000,
[18:29] <Jordan_U> tumudifork: It overwrites system file like those in /bin/ to be replaced with the newer version. What problem are you having specifically?
[18:30] <tumudifork> the config files ,how does it work?
[18:30] <tumudifork> i am arch user also,and worry that upgrade might fail because of config ,
[18:30] <justsomeguy> nikolam: That was a typo on my part. MemTest86+ looks like the way to go.
[18:30] <messicano83> !list
[18:30] <Narwhaal> tumudifork: yes
[18:30] <tumudifork> so i just wantto know say what does it do with old config?
[18:31] <Narwhaal> well old user files it keeps
[18:31] <tumudifork> Narwhaal,  i mean does it overwrite the old config?
[18:31] <nikolam> justsomeguy, yes, thanks anyway
[18:31] <Narwhaal> what old config ? for what program/s ?
[18:31] <Jordan_U> tumudifork: If a file in /etc/ has changed between releases of a package then you will be prompted to either keep your existing configuration file, overwrite with the package maintainer's version, do a three way merge, or handle the situation manually.
[18:31] <tumudifork> have you use arch? then you  will know. in arch we got ot merge the configs
[18:32] <Narwhaal> tumudifork: yes I use arch
[18:32] <gabriel_> Gregor3000, I used taskel to install as well as uninstall
[18:35] <cwolford> in xenial, how do i organizer launchers into groups?
[18:37] <irregular> How can I have screenshots (using the printscreen button) default to copying to the clipboard? Currently the printscreen button takes a screenshot but asks me if i want to copy to clipboard or save it and does neither
[18:37] <test> exit
[18:38] <Gregor3000>  gabriel_: so it depends what command is actually runs for removal. it used to have a note not to use tasksel for uninstall. i see it is gone from the wiki. tasksel just runs tasks. it is not necessary on desktops but is usefull on servers and mini.iso. it might have been safer to run apt-get remove you should tghen see a list of what will be removed and description.
[18:39] <Fred1283> Hi all, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 on Raspberry Pi 2 B and I have a hanging Software updater. It stops when it says "checking for updates - Downloading from ports.ubuntu.com"  . It's a brand-new installation. Internet is working fine.  Can I also  update  on the terminal? Maybe that solves the problem
[18:40] <cwolford> Fred1283 what are you trying to update?
[18:41] <Fred1283> cwolford I'm just trying to start the GUI to see what updates are waiting
[18:42] <Fred1283> I can't get to the list of pending updates
[18:42] <Tin_man> from terminal just type sudo apt-get update
[18:43] <Tin_man> then if it completes, the type sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:43] <Tin_man> the=then
[18:44] <Tin_man> at least thats how it's done on my desktop, not really sure on a raspberry
[18:44] <Fred1283> irregular have a look at this article. Ctrl + print key may be the solution
[18:44] <Fred1283> Tin_man thx, I'll try this
[18:44] <cwolford> in xenial, how do i organizer launchers into groups?
[18:45] <Fred1283> irregular:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/254808/where-are-partial-screenshot-stored-or-how-to-specifiy-location
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> cwolford  with unity-launcher-folders  ... not in the repos
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> cwolford  http://unity-folders.exceptionfound.com/
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> cwolford  keep it in the channel
[18:48] <Fred1283> tin_man updates are in progress. It seems to work for now. It's 400 MB of updates, I guess that will take a while. Thanks :)
[18:48] <cwolford> sorry, i always go to pm to keep main channel open for new questions.
[18:49] <cwolford> i'm using ubuntu gnome, will that work?
[18:49] <cwolford> MonkeyDust ^
[18:50] <tortib> Is it possible to change one of the desktop backgrounds on one monitor if I have 2 in gnome?  Right now they're boht the same background
[18:51] <samtcg> Hello, new ubuntu user here. Im trying to install py3.5.2 and get an error "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" trying to run: "./configure --prefix=$HOME/.local"
[18:53] <EriC^^> samtcg: try to install build-essentials
[18:53] <EriC^^> *build-essential
[18:53] <samtcg> sudo apt-get build-essential
[18:53] <samtcg> right?
[18:53] <mifritscher> moin
[18:53] <EriC^^> samtcg: sudo apt-get intsall build-essential
[18:53] <EriC^^> *install
[18:54] <samtcg> E: Unable to locate package build-essential
[18:54] <samtcg> did I misspell it?
[18:54] <EriC^^> no
[18:54] <EriC^^> !info build-essential
[18:54] <Fred1283> tortib I'm not sure about Ubuntu. If you don't find a better solution you may try to stick toghether 2 images with GIMP or so and then use "stretch" the backgroud setzp
[18:54] <EriC^^> that's odd
[18:54] <mifritscher> on my z20t from toshiba, ubuntu 16.04 can't play using the internal speakers after standby. external speakers are working...
[18:54] <EriC^^> samtcg: try sudo apt-get update , which ubuntu is this?
[18:55] <samtcg> EriC^^: its a vps from godaddy
[18:55] <samtcg> I thiiink im running 14.04
[18:55] <samtcg> hold on
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> samtcg  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[18:56] <samtcg> EriC^^: No, 15.10
[18:56] <idiot> Hi!
[18:56] <samtcg> EriC^^: MonkeyDust: build-essential installed after updating apt
[18:56] <samtcg> MonkeyDust: I will check once build-ess finishes installing
[18:57] <EriC^^> samtcg: it's pretty close to eol
[18:57] <samtcg> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> samtcg  15.10 will soon be !eol, consider using 14.04 or 16.04
[18:57] <EriC^^> might update to 16.04 before setting everything up and stuff
[18:57] <samtcg> What is eol?
[18:57] <EriC^^> !eol
[18:57] <EriC^^> means dead
[18:57] <samtcg> I dont know if godaddy offers other versions
[18:58] <samtcg> How close is it?
[18:58] <EriC^^> like this month
[18:58] <Guest68722> I am someone hears?
[18:58] <samtcg> Oh thats unfortuante
[18:58] <samtcg> Can I upgrade from this version?
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest68722  it works, we see you
[18:58] <samtcg> Or do I need to go to godaddy
[18:58] <EriC^^> samtcg: yeah
[18:58] <EriC^^> samtcg: i dunno really
[18:59] <EriC^^> probably better if you use their stuff
[18:59] <Guest68722> Прощайте
[18:59] <EriC^^> samtcg: they should have 14.04 for sure i think
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[19:01] <CodFection> whats the irc for ubuntu mate
[19:02] <samtcg> EriC^^: What happens if you use a "dead" version then? Or a version that has passed its "End of life Time"
[19:02] <Feren^IRCCloud> CodFection: https://ubuntu-mate.org/irc/
[19:02] <samtcg> This is only a small discord bot
[19:02] <Feren^IRCCloud> CodFection: #ubuntu-mate on freenode
[19:02] <samtcg> Security isnt really number 1 prio
[19:02] <EriC^^> samtcg: the software will be outdated and you'd have to do a hack to be able to access the repos (they get moved to somewhere else on the ubuntu servers)
[19:03] <CodFection> thanks Feren^IRCCloud
[19:03] <samtcg> Hm. Very weird that godaddy is only offering 15.10 then
[19:03] <samtcg> At least from what I can see
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> samtcg  you can perfectly use a !eol version, but not install updates, as the sources are taken offline
[19:04] <Jordan_U> samtcg: If you use EOL software then eventually your server will be hacked and start sending us all spam. We don't appreciate that. Don't use EOL software.
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> samtcg  apt will no longer work
[19:04] <samtcg> No you are putting me in a tough position
[19:04] <samtcg> Now*
[19:04] <EriC^^> samtcg: the hack is easy, you won't get any new patches or anything though, and security too
[19:05] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: Please don't help people stay on EOL releases.
[19:05] <EriC^^> samtcg: you can still access the old repos and use apt, but all the software will be old, also you might be ostrichized and people might avoid helping you here
[19:05] <EriC^^> *ahem* example ^
[19:05] <EriC^^> Jordan_U: just stating the non-biased facts
[19:05] <EriC^^> let's eod please
[19:05] <tgm4883> EriC^^: and for good reason. We shouldn't be helping people stay on EOL releases
[19:05] <EriC^^> (end of discussion)
[19:06] <samtcg> How does it matter to other people if I use a low-security os?
[19:06] <Jordan_U> samtcg: It sounds like godaddy has put you in a tough position. They at the very least should be offering Ubuntu 14.04, which is a long term support release.
[19:06] <samtcg> I hope they are
[19:06] <samtcg> I will contact their support
[19:06] <Jordan_U> samtcg: Like I just said, your insecure server will likely become part of a botnet doing not nice things.
[19:07] <EriC^^> samtcg: can't you use a debian os instead?
[19:08] <samtcg> I can only choose between ubuntu 15.10 and fedora
[19:08] <EriC^^> might as well go with the supported os
[19:08] <EriC^^> unless you have a really good reason not to or something
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> samtcg  maybe godaddy is waiting for 16.04.1, also to be released this month
[19:09] <samtcg> That could be tight tho^^
[19:09] <tgm4883> that would be my guess
[19:09] <tgm4883> although odd they don't have 14.04 then
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> yes, that's odd
[19:10] <samtcg> OK so realistically, I wouldnt get hacked instantly right? My identified course of actions here will probably be to wait until 15.10 reaches end of life, see if godaddy offers an alternative, and if they dont, go to fedora?
[19:11] <samtcg> But I am also contacting support
[19:11] <ducasse> samtcg: 15.10 goes eol on the 21st or 22nd, so it's not too far off.
[19:12] <samtcg> Yeah I know, very strange
[19:12] <nacc_> July 28, per ubuntu-announce
[19:12] <ducasse> ah, thanks.
[19:12] <samtcg> Asking support if I can use another version now
[19:12] <samtcg> Lets see what he tells me
[19:13] <samtcg> And when is the eol of 16.04?
[19:13] <EriC^^> 5 years later
[19:13] <nacc_> 2021?
[19:13] <samtcg> OK
[19:13] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[19:27] <upfwnv03> hello
[19:29] <samtcg> OK, update! GoDaddy will offer 16.04 in before august. So, at worst, I will have to run eol release for 2 days. But hopefully not at all. (Hope you wont hate me for that)
[19:30] <samtcg> Thanks for the help lasd
[19:30] <samtcg> lads*
[19:33] <smallfoot-> It is not possible to upgrade to 16.10-alpha1?
[19:34] <smallfoot-> update-manager -cd does not work
[19:34] <nacc_> smallfoot-: #ubuntu+1
[19:34] <smallfoot-> i cant go there
[19:34] <smallfoot-> cuz once many years ago when i was little, i got banned
[19:39] <nacc_> smallfoot- left, but it works fine here
[19:39] <tortib> My CTRL+C CTRL+V keys don't work in windows any more
[19:40] <tortib> same with CTRL+X
[19:40] <tortib> I just logged out and back in too
[19:40] <nacc_> tortib: in Windows?
[19:42] <tortib> nacc_, no in ubuntu, when i select text in firefox and try to copy it in hexchat
[19:42] <tortib> like a  URL or something
[19:42] <tortib> it doesn't copy and paste it
[19:43] <james1138> Hello all. Question for group. Will the newest LTS kernel 4.4.14 work on 32 bit systems? If so... how to install?  All I am finding are AMD/64 bit versions of the new kernel.
[19:43] <FMan> I have had the problem that I cannot copy text from HexChat
[19:44] <nacc_> james1138: for which version of ubuntu?
[19:44] <james1138> 14.0.4.4 Lubuntu
[19:44] <james1138> 32 bit
[19:45] <nacc_> !info linux-image-generic-lts-xenial trusty
[19:45] <nacc_> james1138: --^ available for i386
[19:45] <nacc_> james1138: dunno what you mean "4.4.14", though
[19:47] <james1138> I saw this on-line... http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-4-4-14-lts-brings-networking-improvements-multiple-sparc-changes-505657.shtml
[19:47] <nacc_> james1138: that's a kernel LTS not Ubuntu LTS thing
[19:48] <nacc_> james1138: trust your distribution to provide you with the right kernel
[19:49] <arussel> I've got the Hd encrypted, is there a way to not have some directory not encrypted (using a 'normal' fs) ?
[19:50] <james1138> Ahh... soo... if I may ask... what is the newest LTS kernel for Ubuntu? Right now I am using 4.4.8.
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> james1138  4.4.0-28
[19:50] <nacc_> james1138: you're not using an ubuntu kernel?
[19:51] <EriC^^> arussel: yeah you can make an encrypted fs and mount it at that dir
[19:51] <EriC^^> *unencrypted
[19:51] <arussel> EriC^^: could you point me to a doc ?
[19:52] <EriC^^> arussel: are you fresh installing?
[19:52] <james1138> I thought I was using a Ubuntu kernel...  http://linuxdaddy.com/blog/install-kernel-4-4-on-ubuntu/
[19:52] <nacc_> !mainline | james1138
[19:52] <EriC^^> arussel: i've nothing, i know it's possible though cause the installer leaves /boot unencrypted by default
[19:53] <nacc_> james1138: *why* are you using a mainline kernel?
[19:53] <arussel> EriC^^: no, I did a full install, got my project up and running just to realise that my project couldn't be built on encrypted fs. I would much prefer if possible not to destroy data.
[19:53] <arussel> yeah, make sense to have something unencrypted to start with
[19:53] <james1138> To try and get the most power saving on my Thinkpad laptop.
[19:54] <auvajs> hi, someone would help how to devide a disk? on my vps I bought some extra disk space but it looks like I need to do some stuff with partitions.. I've never done anything like that...
[19:54] <nacc_> james1138: that ... doesn't make any sense and is based upon misinformation, i think
[19:54] <nacc_> james1138: 1) the mainline PPA is not supported anywhere, it's purely for testing
[19:54] <EriC^^> arussel: try joining ##linux and asking they might know
[19:55] <nacc_> james1138: 2) Ubuntu's kernel team backports fixes from upstream (and from the -stable trees, afaik) to their base kernel version
[19:55] <james1138> I guess I messed up. I thought the newer kernel had more power saving features than older ones.
[19:56] <nacc_> james1138: you want, presuming to you want to stay on 14.04, the xenial !hwe stack, I guess
[19:56] <nacc_> !hwe | james1138
[19:57] <james1138> okay
[19:58] <nacc_> james1138: and probably uninstall that kernel from the mainline ppa
[19:58] <nacc_> james1138: also that blog author probably should be flogged :)
[19:58] <nacc_> it's generally bad advice, afaict (and not advised by Ubuntu)
[19:59] <wawrek> Hello.
[19:59] <RICK_SYSOP> Hello, may i ask a PHP related question here?
[19:59] <tortib> RICK_SYSOP, #PHP
[20:00] <RICK_SYSOP> tortib: thx, but do you know any related/equal channel that dont need signup on irc names
[20:00] <RICK_SYSOP> tortib: like, "PHP Unofficial"
[20:00] <wawrek> How to  install FFmpeg with support for libvorbis and libtheora? I want to install it with apt, without having to compile.
[20:01] <tortib> RICK_SYSOP, you can pm me your question I may or may not be able to answer i.t
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> wwwi  sudo apt install ffmpeg
[20:01] <nacc_> wawrek: --^
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> wawrek  idd
[20:02] <arussel> EriC^^: found an easy work around, only the home directory is encrypted, so I moved my project somewhere else
[20:02] <wawrek> nacc_, MonkeyDust: I did this. When using it the ogv format is not found.
[20:03] <RICK_SYSOP> tortib: ok check here
[20:03] <RICK_SYSOP> tortib: https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Creating_widgets#Customizing_the_Title_and_Linking_to_page
[20:03] <RICK_SYSOP> im trying to create a widget for my dashboard
[20:03] <jm_> whats the consensus chrome or firefox for privacy..
[20:04] <RICK_SYSOP> tortib: http://pasted.co/f1fd8d4a
[20:04] <EriC^^> arussel: oh that's great
[20:04] <RICK_SYSOP> tortib: http://pasted.co/86083c59
[20:04] <rypervenche> RICK_SYSOP: If you plan on using IRC for any amount of time, you should probably register a username.
[20:04] <RICK_SYSOP> rypervenche: will do further on :-)
[20:04] <EriC^^> arussel: i thought you were using full disk encryption
[20:05] <RICK_> tortib: did you get my question, its like PHP related and need to grab an image from a remote host
[20:06] <auvajs> hi, someone please help me how to create a new partition on a free disk space????
[20:06] <nacc_> !ot | RICK_: this is why tortib asked you to PM, if anything.
[20:06] <akik> auvajs: use "sudo fdisk -l" to list your storage devices
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> wawrek  not sure where you found ogv files, but most hits in the search engine tell, you have to convert it
[20:08] <auvajs> akik: http://pastebin.com/HvQ9k0aB - it's my vps, I bought some extra disk space but now I need to do something about it in order to use it..
[20:08] <auvajs> sorry for posting twice the same
[20:09] <akik> auvajs: it shows you have a 35 gig disk
[20:09] <auvajs> akik: yes, but now I can only use 20 gig - /dev/xvda1, I want to use the rest 15 gb
[20:10] <akik> auvajs: you can create a partition /dev/xvda2 to hold rest of the space
[20:10] <auvajs> akik: yes but I have no idea how to proceed
[20:10] <akik> auvajs: sudo fdisk /dev/xvda
[20:10] <auvajs> akik: and next?
[20:11] <akik> auvajs: n creates a new partition
[20:11] <auvajs> akik: primary or extended?
[20:11] <akik> auvajs: primary is ok
[20:12] <auvajs> akik: Partition number (2-4, default 2): ? 2 ?
[20:12] <akik> auvajs: how do you want to use the 15 gig space?
[20:12] <auvajs> akik: how do you mean it? I just want to have more space on my vps..
[20:12] <akik> auvajs: yes 2
[20:13] <akik> auvajs: so you create a new mount point and then mount this /dev/xvda2 to it
[20:13] <EriC^^> auvajs: where is the bulk of the 20g going?
[20:13] <EriC^^> /var/www/html ?
[20:13] <auvajs> akik: probably, I really have no knowledge about this
[20:14] <auvajs> EriC^^: most is /var/www/mediawiki, and no idea where html database is stared
[20:15] <auvajs> oh I mean mysql :D
[20:15] <root_> Hi, which irc client do you use? :)
[20:16] <auvajs> root_: irssi
[20:16] <auvajs> EriC^^: probably /var/lib/mysql
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> !rootirc | root_
[20:17] <EriC^^> auvajs: how big are those dirs? try du -sh /var/lib/mysql /var/www
[20:19] <auvajs> EriC^^: 2.4 G/var/lib/mysql.. counting size of /var/www will probably take a lot of time, since there are many small files in some dirs
[20:20] <EriC^^> auvajs: if you could boot into recovery mode you could extend the whole main partition to the whole space
[20:20] <EriC^^> i wonder if you have to rewrite the partition table too though
[20:21] <EriC^^> (in either case)
[20:21] <auvajs> EriC^^: would all "today" data stay?
[20:21] <EriC^^> i think you don't have to, the partition table doesn't say where the disk ends i think, just where partitions start i guess
[20:22] <EriC^^> auvajs: yeah, having a backup for that is pretty mandatory though, it's usually safe but it involves deleting the partition (leaving the fs there) and then recreating the partition bigger, and resizing the fs so it takes up the new partition
[20:23] <EriC^^> you have to recreate it at the exact same starting sector for it to work
[20:23] <auvajs> EriC^^: wouldn't be safer to create a new partition /dev/xvda2, format it and mount it? /var/www is 4.2G btw
[20:23] <natrius> Hello
[20:24] <EriC^^> auvajs: yeah it would be safer, but like if you do that, you'll only gain where you mounted it
[20:24] <EriC^^> like if you mount it at /var/www you'll gain 4.2g of space for the root partition, and have 10g room to grow there
[20:25] <EriC^^> /usr might be big, and /var too
[20:25] <EriC^^> try du -sh /usr /var
[20:25] <natrius> i have 2 problem, one dualboot, wanna use firefox profile on both, working nice till i restart, second: how do i switch from front-audio device to back audio? i'm listening music though my headphone on the desk -.-
[20:26] <natrius> Can someone get some time to help me or point me in the right direction?
[20:26] <auvajs> EriC^^: why can't I mount a partition in / to use the place everywhere?
[20:26] <EriC^^> auvajs: you can only have 1 fs mounted under 1 dir usually
[20:28] <auvajs> EriC^^: I don't really get it, so if I mount a new partition is some crazy dir like /home/me/blabla/blabla/blabla/blabla I can only use the space in this dir?
[20:28] <EriC^^> auvajs: yeah
[20:28] <EriC^^> think of the dir like a window to the partition
[20:28] <auvajs> EriC^^: that's stupid..
[20:28] <EriC^^> if you mount it there, you're accessing the filesystem from there
[20:29] <natrius> does not sound stipid imho
[20:29] <natrius> *stupid
[20:30] <akik> auvajs: you can do the /dev/xvda1 resize too but it's risky. that way you'll resize the root file system
[20:30] <akik> auvajs: have backups? :)
[20:32] <auvajs> akik: I do regular mysql database backups, I may backup the rest of important data, most space is taken by the software which can be reinstalled
[20:33] <akik> auvajs: basically you delete /dev/xvda1 and recreate it starting at the same sector (=2048)
[20:33] <natrius> i would need some help on dualboot with firefox profiles
[20:34] <auvajs> EriC^^: akik: /var 14 GB, /usr 2.2 GB
[20:34] <akik> auvajs: after a reboot you can use resize2fs to make the root file system utilize the whole 35 gigs
[20:34] <akik> auvajs: oh btw is it a ext3/4 partition?
[20:36] <auvajs> akik: /dev/xvda1 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,data=ordered)
[20:36] <EriC^^> i'd resize it
[20:37] <EriC^^> you need a live session though for everything
[20:38] <backbox_> SUp
[20:38] <akik> EriC^^: you can do it in in the normal session
[20:39] <auvajs> EriC^^: ok, wait a sec till I do some backups
[20:39] <EriC^^> akik: i dont think so
[20:39] <EriC^^> akik: sources?
[20:39] <akik> EriC^^: it just needs a reboot to reread the partition table
[20:40] <akik> EriC^^: i've done it :)
[20:40] <irinix> far, I'm still having wifi issues
[20:40] <jussi> aattti
[20:41] <akik> resize2fs is able to resize a mounted fs
[20:41] <TheNH813> Why isn't virtualbox working
[20:41] <TheNH813> the update broke it
[20:41] <TheNH813> bash: /etc/vboxdrv: No such file or directory
[20:42] <EriC^^> akik: interesting
[20:42] <akik> TheNH813: kernel update broke it? try sudo /sbin/rcvboxdrv setup
[20:42] <TheNH813> Maybe that's wht it was. Oh, they moved the script?
[20:43] <akik> TheNH813: yea that takes care of it
[20:43] <bekks> TheNH813: /etc/vboxdrv is irrelevant, you are looking for /etc/init.d/vboxdrv or /sbin/rcvboxdrv
[20:43] <TheNH813> Well, they both came back as command not found.
[20:44] <natrius> is there another channel where i could get some help with firefox?
[20:44] <bekks> TheNH813: So pastebin "dpkg -l | grep -i virtualbox" please.
[20:44] <bekks> TheNH813: And which Ubuntu version are you using?
[20:45] <TheNH813> 16.04
[20:45] <TheNH813> Also, I just tried reinstalling the package
[20:45] <TheNH813> And yes, it says it's installed.
[20:45] <bekks> TheNH813: So pastebin "dpkg -l | grep -i virtualbox" please.
[20:45] <squinty> natrius,  #firefox here on freenode
[20:45] <TheNH813> Will do.
[20:46] <natrius> squinty, thanks, i will try that
[20:47] <auvajs> EriC^^: akik: so you guys ready to help me ? I may reboot now
[20:47] <akik> auvajs: did you already recreate /dev/xvda1 with the bigger size?
[20:47] <TheNH813> bekks: Give me another minute or two, when you asked that question I had already started reinstalling it.
[20:48] <auvajs> akik: now, I don't know how :D
[20:48] <auvajs> *no
[20:48] <akik> auvajs: sudo fdisk /dev/xvda
[20:49] <auvajs> akik: yes but the next steps? :D
[20:49] <akik> auvajs: p prints the partition table. make a copy of it
[20:49] <TheNH813> bekks: http://pastebin.com/tna0e1Lu
[20:49] <akik> auvajs: check with u that the display units is sectors
[20:50] <natrius> cannot post on #firefox when not registeres *sigh*
[20:50] <auvajs> akik: http://pastebin.com/rjeG51i6
[20:50] <natrius> nevermind, back to windows :p
[20:50] <TheNH813> Well, that's pretty eas
[20:50] <TheNH813> type /nickserv resigter
[20:50] <akik> auvajs: then d and enter
[20:50] <akik> auvajs: that'll delete the partition
[20:50] <natrius> TheNH813: i try that
[20:51] <auvajs> akik: Partition 1 has been deleted.
[20:51] <akik> auvajs: then n and create partition 1 as a primary partition
[20:51] <akik> auvajs: first sector = 2048 and the last sector it offers that maximum size
[20:52] <auvajs> akik: Created a new partition 1 of type 'Linux' and of size 35.5 GiB.
[20:52] <akik> auvajs: add the bootable flag with a
[20:52] <auvajs> akik: now w?
[20:52] <akik> auvajs: not really sure if it's needed but you had it previously
[20:52] <irinix> this is such crap. THanks, Obama
[20:52] <auvajs> akik: The bootable flag on partition 1 is enabled now.
[20:52] <TheNH813> bekks: You there?
[20:52] <akik> auvajs: ok then w
[20:53] <akik> auvajs: it'll complain about not being able to update the partition table that the kernel sees
[20:53] <irinix> anyone have problems with wifi on 16.04?
[20:53] <auvajs> Command (m for help): w
[20:53] <auvajs> The partition table has been altered.
[20:53] <auvajs> Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
[20:53] <auvajs> Re-reading the partition table failed.: Device or resource busy
[20:53] <auvajs> The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8).
[20:53] <akik> auvajs: so a reboot next
[20:53] <auvajs> You have new mail in /var/mail/root
[20:53] <TheNH813> irinix: Not me.
[20:53] <Grorco> Hi does anyone know if you could chroot an entire user session?
[20:53] <irinix> TheNH813: are you using an intel chip?
[20:54] <TheNH813> AMD bases system. Wifi is Linksys and I think the chip is Broadcom
[20:54] <Bashing-om> !chroot
[20:55] <irinix> TheNH813: yeah, I'm using IWLWifi and it has notoriously bad behaviour
[20:55] <irinix> which didn't affect me until ~3/4 days ago
[20:56] <Grorco> What I'm trying to accomplish is allowing my daughter to be able to easily install apps from app center without giving her root access to the whole system
[20:56] <Grorco> so I was thinking if I could chroot to her ~/ then it would install there
[20:57] <TheNH813> irinix: In that case I don't think there's a way to fix that unless they updated the drivers. Then a kernel upgrade might.
[20:57] <OerHeks> Grorco, maybe this page is any help: just synaptic/softwarecenter or apt-get http://askubuntu.com/questions/64889/give-permission-to-user-only-to-install-applications
[20:58] <Asathoor> hello - greetings from a danish ubuntu user :: 3.19.0-64-lowlatency #72~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Fri Jun 24 19:54:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:59] <irinix> TheNH813: yeah, I just updated to 16.04 + 4.4.0-28
[20:59] <irinix> to no avail
[21:00] <Dat> hi, i have a kubuntu dualboot system with win7 and awhile ago my kubuntu system crashed, as of right now it boots to a terminal where I can login but starting kde fails, i'd like to just re-install kubuntu but without loosing my data or messing up my dualboot.. How can I do this?
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> Dat  use a live session, backup from there
[21:01] <jeremy31> irinix  Is your access point using TKIP encryption?  I have a few Intel wireless cards and they struggle with TKIP
[21:01] <Asathoor> det >> have you tried startx from the terminal
[21:01] <irinix> jeremy31: nope, AES
[21:01] <irinix> I even set up a wireless bridge with straight AES last night, since I don't have control of the houses main router
[21:02] <Dat> Asathoor: yes kde partly crashes
[21:02] <jeremy31> irinix Have you set any option for 11n_disable?
[21:02] <irinix> yes
[21:02] <irinix> I've tried both 11n_disable and swcyrpto
[21:02] <Asathoor> dat >> in that case try to reinstall via apt-get
[21:02] <Dat> MonkeyDust: live cd ok I guess I can backup my home directory some how but how do I re-install without messing up the dual boot?
[21:02] <TheNH813> irnix: Sometimes, one of these is the only answer. They definitely work on Linux, I'v used them before. https://amzn.com/B003MTTJOY
[21:03] <heeen> how do I setup a 14.04 chroot on 16.04 the wiki says download some debootstrap package manually, none of them are for trusty though
[21:03] <Dat> Asathoor: from a live cd? because in the terminal i have no idea how to connect to wireless
[21:03] <heeen> just the regular deboostrap?
[21:03] <TheNH813> But, I hope they go get those drivers patched soon. I'v heard a lot of trouble with them.
[21:03] <Asathoor> det >> if you can boot from say a cdrom / dvd then you can backup your stuff
[21:03] <jeremy31> irinix, what was the setting you used for 11n_disable=?  If you want 11N to work you should set to 8
[21:03] <irinix> jeremy31: right now it is set to 1,
[21:04] <Dat> Asathoor: i can boot from usb kubuntu stick.
[21:04] <irinix> but I'll try 8 and see what happenes
[21:04] <Asathoor> try ¤  man iwconfig
[21:04] <Dat> Asathoor: but how do i re-install or get the system backup without messing up dualboot
[21:05] <debidi> heeen: apt-get install deboostrap and use whatever codename for 14.04 on the cmd line and make sure to indicate what arch the chroot should be if needed
[21:05] <Asathoor> I'd recommend to plug in the network with a wire - normally it just works
[21:05] <debidi> heeen: debootstrap or cdebootstrap will do
[21:05] <Asathoor> then you can try to reinstall kde
[21:05] <Dat> sigh i only have wireless
[21:05] <heeen> whats the difference
[21:06] <Dat> Asathoor: can I do this from a live cd?
[21:06] <irinix> brb
[21:06] <debidi> heeen: just implementation, equivalent functionality
[21:06] <Bashing-om> heeen: What is the end goal here ? There are easier ways to chroot than setting up a deboostrap .
[21:06] <Asathoor> apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop
[21:07] <heeen> Bashing-om: for some reason my yocto builds fail and I am tired of chasing down these obscure failures when it even warns me about 16.04 not being supported
[21:07] <Dat> Asathoor: can i do this from the live cd?
[21:07] <heeen> oe-core/yocto
[21:07] <heeen> Bashing-om: what are these easier ways
[21:08] <debidi> yocto as in ^-24 ?
[21:08] <heeen> debidi: https://www.yoctoproject.org/
[21:09] <debidi> oh nvm. yea..
[21:09] <heeen> embedded linux build system/cross compilation toolchain etc
[21:10] <akik> auvajs's root file system resize was a success
[21:10] <debidi> like linaro but multiarch, i guess
[21:10] <heeen> it does arm mostly but my current target is actually an intel atom platform
[21:12] <Bashing-om> heeen: Gor a simple/basic CHroot, I run ' sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt - for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done - sudo chroot /mnt ' . I also back back out of it manually when done .
[21:12] <heeen> but how do you get all the 14.04 packages in there
[21:13] <Bashing-om> heeen: You are in the install .. update/upgrade and install away .
[21:13] <heeen> does not parse
[21:14] <heeen> do I just download a trusty default apt sources file or what
[21:14] <heeen> and how to even get to the state that apt works
[21:14] <heeen> seems like what debootstrap does
[21:15] <Bashing-om> heeen: When the sudo chroot /mnt is executed, you are in the install .. as directed by the mount command .
[21:16] <debidi> so 14.04 is trusty right, debootstrap --arch i386/x86_64 trusty /path/to/chroot http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[21:16] <heeen> oh, you did not say I would have to actually install from a live cd in /dev/sdXY
[21:16] <heeen> that seems to be actually more complicated
[21:17] <heeen> debidi: ok: I: Base system installed successfully.
[21:17] <heeen> what next, chroot /var/chroot/trusty?
[21:17] <debidi> beautiful, chroot /path/to/chroot yep, then apt-get install aptitude if u like, then install away
[21:18] <debidi> also u can run a sshd to avoid chrooting
[21:19] <debidi> adduser 's as needed
[21:20] <heeen> debidi: can I mount my home directory into the chroot
[21:20] <heeen> symlink does not work I guess
[21:20] <heeen> bind mount?
[21:21] <irinix> =( still not working
[21:22] <debidi> ln manpage says something about hardlinking dirs, never attempted this myself
[21:22] <bekks> debidi: That wont work using a chroot.
[21:23] <debidi> nfs mount ? :/
[21:23] <rypervenche> debidi: It's not possible to hardlink directories.
[21:23] <bekks> debidi: Why dont you just use a bind mount?
[21:25]  * debidi nods
[21:33] <irinix> welp I guess I'm just up s-creak
[21:34] <jeremy31> irinix can you post at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu or wait until ubuntuforums.org comes back online?
[21:35] <tortib> Can someone help me with this problem?  Every time I boot up ubuntu lightdm freezes up and I'm not able to enter my password in, I have to switch to a TTY then back to LightDMs TTY and then I can enter my login information.  Also, logging into my Gnome3 session takes a while, it's a fresh install and it was doing it since the install, both problems.
[21:36] <tortib> I have a GTX 970
[21:36] <tortib> And I'm using the latest nvidia drivers, it was doing it with the XORG drivers for nvidia as well.
[21:36] <irinix> jeremy31: what all should I put there?
[21:36] <irinix> like do you want my whole dmesg | grep iwlwifi etc?
[21:37] <The_Dark_Side_Of> Hey, first time on IRC; I was wondering if anyone else has a pair of Corsair Voyager Wireless headphones? As mine seem to freeze my 16.04 Desktop when I use them. Anybody know a fix?
[21:37] <tgm4883> The_Dark_Side_Of: I don't, but what do you mean by freeze?
[21:37] <jeremy31> irinix just describe the problem and post the results for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370108 see the wireless script
[21:39] <The_Dark_Side_Of> Like i'm able to move the mouse but clicking on anything doesnt interact with it, so if i click an application tile it doesnt open up, if i click on the shutdown button it doesnt pop up and ask if id like to restart or shutdown
[21:42] <tgm4883> The_Dark_Side_Of: it's been awhile since I used it, but I had a plantronics headset that did something similiar. It was showing up as a human interface device and I ended up having to prevent it from doing that
[21:47] <The_Dark_Side_Of> Sorry i'm new to IRC; how do i make the message green for specfic people? Just type there name then a colon?  So after you did that it stop freezing your pc?
[21:48] <Bashing-om> !hilight
[21:49] <jeremy31> just type the name The_Dark_Side_of
[21:50] <rypervenche> The_Dark_Side_Of: If you start to type their name then press tab, it should autocomplete for you (may have to press tab a few times, depending on how unique the name is).
[21:51] <The_Dark_Side_Of> The_Dark_Side_Of, test
[21:52] <The_Dark_Side_Of> cool, thanks for that. Does 'tagging' someone in a message send them like a notifaction or something other than turning it green for them?
[21:54] <Bashing-om> The_Dark_Side_Of: Depends on how they have set their client up .. I am on irssi... and in the status bar when I am nicked, the window number color changes .
[21:57] <jeremy31> irinix You could also post at askubuntu.com and it is likely that chili555 will see it.  He has a lot of experience with Intel wifi
[21:58] <rypervenche> The_Dark_Side_Of: I think most GUI-based client will have a popup notification.
[21:58] <irinix> jeremy31: I'll cross post in a minute
[22:06] <irinix> jeremy31: could it be that my crda wasn't set.
[22:07] <irinix> I know I had set it back a few months ago, but I just checked and it was back to Unset
[22:13] <irinix> nope crda wasn't it
[22:17] <jeremy31> irinix Did you post on ubuntuforums.org also?
[22:19] <irinix> jeremy31: not yet, I tried the CRDA before wasting someones time with a help me post
[22:19] <irinix> I'm now out of ideas so posting
[22:26] <heeen> ok so chroot does not work so far
[22:26] <heeen> /dev/shm is not writable and even if I force it to be, some python semaphore fails to work
[22:27] <goody> hi
[22:27] <YankDownUnder> ...trying to chroot to /dev/shm?
[22:28] <heeen> trying to run bitbake under a debootstrap chroot
[22:28] <YankDownUnder> Ah...fair enough
[22:29] <goody> ::
[22:30] <goody> hi d2
[22:33] <TrivialGravitas> I have an encrypted hard drive and I'm changing computers, how do I make sure that I cahn actually get data off the drive when I plug it in as an external?
[22:34] <YankDownUnder> TrivialGravitas: Have you tested it yet?
[22:34] <TrivialGravitas> never mind I found it
[22:34] <TrivialGravitas> YankDownUnder, Tested it?
[22:35] <irinix> ~tell
[22:35] <irinix> !help
[22:35] <YankDownUnder> TrivialGravitas: Well, you found the answer you were looking for - what I was getting at was "did you actually plug in the external and test if you could access the drive"...
[22:36] <TrivialGravitas> oh, no, because I know I can't, it told me I wouldn't be able to when I did the encryption
[22:36] <TrivialGravitas> I think it uses a salted hash for the actual key, there's a command that tells you the actual hash result
[22:36] <YankDownUnder> TrivialGravitas: Ah...fair enough.
[22:37] <heeen> ah looks like you have tomount --bind /dev/shm chroot/dev/tmp separately
[22:38] <Dat> so im ready to reinstall my kubuntu when it goes to the disk setup it seems to have my old partition table is it safe to use guided partition table or do i need to go manual so i dont loose my dual boot?
[22:40] <irinix> YankDownUnder: my wifi went down again =(
[22:40] <YankDownUnder> irinix: Did you get to a point yesterday where you re-installed the firmware, or you've just "ridden the wave" since?
[22:41] <irinix> YankDownUnder: wait, are you an American living in Australia?  Yes, I've reinstalled/upgraded/downgraded/sidegraded my firmware
[22:42] <YankDownUnder> irinix: Yersh...that is a true statement of fact. Meanwhile, so the wifi "died" again - and, if I'm not mistaken, you're on 15.10 still, right?
[22:43] <irinix> I upgraded to 16.04 this morning since many people said that fixed their centrino-n 6320
[22:43] <YankDownUnder> irinix: Ah...fair enough - right oh - well, there goes my suggestion out the window...
[22:43] <irinix> yeah, I just posted on Ubuntu's forums.
[22:44] <irinix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330153 https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/296161
[22:44] <YankDownUnder> irinix: Do you have a very large hammer at hand? Like 28 oz. or heavier? That might be a better resolution - at least for the "stress" issues - not necessarily for the technical issues. :)
[22:45] <apb1963> YankDownUnder: You mean a High Impact Realignment Tool?
[22:45] <irinix> YankDownUnder: my hammer is .380 acp
[22:45] <irinix> apb1963: Technical Tapper
[22:45] <YankDownUnder> irinix: Just a quicky question on that - is the wifi a "card", or is it actually built onto the motherboard/system board of that machine?
[22:45] <irinix> YankDownUnder: it's a card
[22:46] <irinix> mini-pcie
[22:46] <apb1963> irinix: A nerdy ballarina?  Don't think that will help ;)
[22:46] <tgm4883> irinix: wireless problems with an intel chipset?
[22:47] <YankDownUnder> irinix: I ended up changing out the "card" on my missus' laptop - it sucked radishes - badly so - and got an Atheros...cheap, FAST...faster than what she was getting...and she's running KUbuntu 16.04...
[22:47] <irinix> apb1963: a nerdy what?
[22:47] <irinix> YankDownUnder: yeah, I don't have the money for yet another wifi card
[22:48] <irinix> apb1963: where are you getting ballarina from?
[22:48] <apb1963> nvm
[22:48] <irinix> apb1963: but I'm so loooost
[22:48] <irinix> unless you maybe looked up my git hub
[22:48] <irinix> tgm4883: yes wifi problems with intel
[22:48] <YankDownUnder> irinix: Right oh...on that note, have you checked the possibility that someone somewhere might have the source code for the driver posted somewhere online? I had an issue with a RT card that caused me to gain the source, recompile it - and then it worked quite well...until a kernel update, then I had to recompile and reinstall, but worked a charm...
[22:49] <irinix> YankDownUnder: i've been googling like crazy, and haven't seen anything
[22:49] <tgm4883> irinix: so I've not read the backlog, so not sure if you've tried this, but I've always had to disable n on those to get better stability
[22:50] <irinix> tgm4883: yes, tried 11n_disable=0,1,8
[22:50] <YankDownUnder> irinix: There are many ways to "Google" things...sometimes, changing the search input changes the overall output...
[22:50] <irinix> YankDownUnder: indeed
[22:51] <tgm4883> irinix: you did that while loading the module?
[22:51] <irinix> tgm4883: yes
[22:51] <irinix> a full clean and cold reboot between each modification
[22:51] <tgm4883> hmm
[22:51] <heeen> Dat: better do it manually and make sure you don't accidentally delete anything
[22:52] <heeen> I have seen guided do weird things
[22:53] <YankDownUnder> Either doing it manually, or editing the /etc/modules and doing a "load & wait" - had to do that in the past...for specific drivers...(prior to the "High Impact" treatment)
[22:53] <OerHeks> 11n_disable=0 means not disabled, you want 1 ??
[22:54] <Guest26197> Hi. If anyone has time I have a weird issue I can't figure out.
[22:54] <YankDownUnder> Guest26197: How weird can it get?
[22:54] <irinix> OerHeks: I've tried 0,1,and 8
[22:55] <Player_> Hello, I'm trying to set up Dropbox on an Ubuntu desktop but my keyboard input is completely random in the login window, can someone help me?
[22:56] <Guest26197> I'm in pulse audio. I disabled one of my microphone channels to make my mic work, and as I'm watching it it's turning back on by itself.
[22:57] <YankDownUnder> Guest26197: Something you might want to try is to edit the /etc/pulse/default.pa and the /etc/pulse/client.conf to see if that affects the "ghost"...
[22:58] <Guest26197> I'm not sure how to find that.
[22:59] <OerHeks> irinix, oke. i see in your forumpost that you blacklisted intel-microcode too?
[22:59] <YankDownUnder> Guest26197: Open a terminal, and type: cd /etc/pulse ....or, you can navigate to that folder in whatever file manager you're using...OR you can search for "/etc/pulse"...depending on the desktop/search you're using.
[22:59] <OerHeks> is this a leftover from before upgrading?
[23:02] <Guest26197> Thanks, I see where it is now. I'll poke around
[23:04] <OerHeks> wb irinix
[23:04] <OerHeks> irinix, oke. i see in your forumpost that you blacklisted intel-microcode too?
[23:04] <irinix> OerHeks, thanks
[23:04] <irinix> I did not
[23:04] <OerHeks> last log, bottom end
[23:05] <OerHeks> [/etc/modprobe.d/intel-microcode-blacklist.conf] blacklist microcode
[23:05] <irinix> could you re-link me, I just switched OS's
[23:05] <OerHeks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330153
[23:07] <irinix> I did not do that.
[23:07] <OerHeks> is it still there?
[23:07] <irinix> So it must have been ubuntu itself
[23:07] <OerHeks> it is not on my install, AFAIK
[23:07] <irinix> I don't know atm.  I have to get *some* work done today, so I switched back to windows.  I will make a note to remove it though
[23:08] <OerHeks> :-)
[23:08] <ubuntu817> hey guys
[23:08] <ubuntu817> i have a really weird issue
[23:08] <irinix> as much as I <3 linux, this is the primary reason I always end up back on windows, because I end up spending inordinate amounts of time fighting something stupid that should work out of the box.
[23:09] <YankDownUnder> Keyword "should".
[23:09] <ubuntu817> I've auto mounted my network drive and use filebot's automated media center script to organise any files i download. however after it moves a file, it leaves the original behind named "cifs3425" or something. this happens very regularly
[23:09] <Guest26197> Okay, I found the conf and am poking around. I'm still not seeing anything that's making the channel come back on
[23:11] <ubuntu817> anyone got an idea as to whats going on?
[23:12] <YankDownUnder> Guest26197: You'll find four files in that directory - client.conf, daemon.conf, default.pa and system.pa -> they are what end up controlling the system-wide settings for pulise-audio...and therefore, would resolve the "ghosting" that you're seeing - as since you change something (the mic channel) and it resets itself...therefore, in affecting the "system-wide" pulse-audio settings, you can change the channel you wish - or mute it -
[23:12] <YankDownUnder>  and that would go system-wide. Does that make sense? You will, obviously, have to restart the daemon to affect the system.
[23:13] <Guest26197> Yeah, I'm looking for the channel settings. Thanks for helping, I just havent found the setting I'm looking for yet.
[23:15] <Player_> Hello, I'm trying to set up Dropbox on an Ubuntu desktop but my keyboard input is completely random in the login window, can someone help me?
[23:16] <prg> hello zadroty!!!
[23:18] <Guest26197> Am I looking for load-module module-device-restore?
[23:20] <YankDownUnder> Guest26197: Something to read quickly on your setup, mate: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/PerfectSetup/
[23:20] <Guest26197> Thanks, reading
[23:21] <YankDownUnder> Guest26197: Better to teach a man to fish than to feed him the fish.
[23:25] <stevlulz> hey
[23:25] <stevlulz> hey
[23:25] <stevlulz> where are u
[23:25] <Burrito> stevlulz: do you have a question related to Ubuntu?
[23:26] <Burrito> stevlulz: if not, maybe join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[23:30] <Burrito> I'm a friend of Player_. Maybe someone recognises his problem. This is a screenshot of the issue. http://puu.sh/pV7R6/2503ac330e.png
[23:30] <Burrito> oops, wrong screenshot
[23:30] <Burrito> http://puu.sh/pV6VD/e44cead406.png
[23:31] <YankDownUnder> Burrito: Strange that.
[23:31] <Burrito> aye. He's using it through a VNC server. But other programs work fine.
[23:32] <YankDownUnder> Burrito: So the "username field" cannot be modified...is that what you're getting at?
[23:32] <jon_> .
[23:32] <Burrito> well, it can be modified. But that's what he gets when he types "The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog"
[23:32] <Burrito> the 7s are spaces. It's just completely scrambled.
[23:33] <YankDownUnder> Burrito: Ah...right...fair enough...so it's a keyboard layout or language issue...
[23:33] <Burrito> no keyboard layout I know of correlates
[23:33] <mladoux> Muwahahahahaha, I just got a pop up telling me that my "Windows" machine had a virus, lol
[23:33] <YankDownUnder> Burrito: Looks like a "normal" keyboard layout being transposed over a Dvorak keyboard layout...or possibly a different language...
[23:33] <mladoux> I don't even own a windows computer
[23:33] <Burrito> YankDownUnder: even that doesn't correlate. Spaces are still spaces in dvorak.
[23:33] <Burrito> not '7'
[23:34] <Burrito> and no letter is changed to "*"
[23:34] <jon_> nacc_, thanks for your help the yesterday.  i got pretty far, and 16.04 looks like its working, except the touchpad is not being identified
[23:34] <YankDownUnder> Burrito: Yes yes...but you know what I mean...
[23:34] <nacc_> jon_: ah nice!
[23:35] <Burrito> YankDownUnder: the solution he's using now is using Ctrl+R to paste login info (which reads as Ctrl+V to the program)
[23:35] <YankDownUnder> Burrito: So firstly, you'd want to make sure that VNC is interpreting things correctly - double checking the configurations...so both the client and server configurations...then work backwards from there, really...
[23:35] <nacc_> jon_: i've had an issue on my laptop that i've had to `modprobe -r i2c_hid; modprobe i2c_hid` after s&r to get my touchpad recognized/enabled. But generally it works for me
[23:36] <Bashing-om> mladoux: Close out and reboot the system is what I have done in a coupie of similar situations.
[23:36] <Dat> so i got kubuntu re-installed
[23:36] <Dat> looks like i lost my programs but kept my settings it seems
[23:36] <Dat> however it says wireless is disabled
[23:37] <Dat> how can i re-enable my wireless
[23:37] <Dat> seems to work on windows but disabled in kubuntu
[23:44] <Guest26197> Okay, I read that page but I wasn't able to find audio channel controls for my onboard mic.
[23:47] <jon_> nacc_, thanks.  none of that made any sense to me.  can you explain it like i am 5?
[23:48] <nacc_> jon_: do you suspend and resume your laptop?
[23:48] <nacc_> jon_: or does your touchpad not work at all?
[23:49] <jon_> nacc_, oh, that used to fix it. now it doesnt recognize at all.  no entry in xinput
[23:49] <Guest26197> Would setting ; default-sample-channels = 1 in daemon.conf disable the second channel for my onboard Mic?
[23:52] <nacc_> jon_: hrm, i'd look in `dmesg` to see if anything obvious; unforunately, i'm about to start my weekend so i'm out :/ hopefully someone else can help
[23:53] <Mihasi> Hi guys. Quick question concerning laptops with hybrid graphics (Nvidia Optimus). I just installed 16.04 and would like to have my discrete GPU permanently disabled. I had some trouble installing Bumblebee and would like to avoid it for now, but if my vgaswitcheroo switch-file shows "DynOff" for the DIS entry, can I assume that the discrete GPU is really permanently off?
[23:54] <nacc_> Mihasi: seesmlike the best palce to disable it is in the BIOS
[23:56] <Grorco> Hi I'm having an issue with when I switch users, then log back in as myself my mouse graphically disappears any idea what is causing this?
[23:56] <Mihasi> nacc_: Right, but I have a 15.10 partition with a working Bumblebee configuration (after lots and lots of trial-and-error) and would like to still be able to use the GPU in there.
[23:56] <nacc_> Mihasi: well, 15.10 goes eol in a few weeks anyways :)
[23:57] <Mihasi> nacc_: Yep, that's why I'm slowly trying to transition. :P
[23:57] <BadBoy09> Hi how are you ?
[23:57] <Ben64> i don't think bumblebee is the right way to do that anymore
[23:57] <Ben64> nvidia-prime is in the repos
[23:57] <mladoux> Bashing-om, or... I could just kill the process...
[23:57] <Mihasi> See, I have no idea. Some people say Bumblebee is dead/deprecated, others say version 4.0 is coming soon...
[23:58] <BadBoy09> how can I find deep web link ?