| daftykins | ;] | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| m0nkey_ | this mdadm array is kicking my ass still | 00:58 |
| m0nkey_ | fastest speed i've seen is 5MB/sec | 00:59 |
| m0nkey_ | i'm doing random writes | 00:59 |
| daftykins | :( | 00:59 |
| daftykins | how'd mounting it from a live session of 7 work out? | 00:59 |
| m0nkey_ | it's now on ubuntu 16.04 | 00:59 |
| m0nkey_ | no difference in speed between centos or ubuntu | 01:00 |
| daftykins | what block size? | 01:01 |
| m0nkey_ | 512 | 01:04 |
| m0nkey_ | 2000398934016 bytes / 1953383488 blocks (md0) / 2 = 512 | 01:05 |
| daftykins | hmm bit large | 01:05 |
| m0nkey_ | thats bytes, not K | 01:05 |
| daftykins | ah | 01:06 |
| daftykins | if they were advanced format disks, that'd be screwing you up | 01:06 |
| m0nkey_ | both my hw_sector_size and physical_block_size is 512 | 01:06 |
| daftykins | some can mask that though | 01:06 |
| m0nkey_ | re-formated the filesystem, forcing 4K, i've seen a slight increase in writes, from 4MB/sec to 6MB/sec | 01:15 |
| m0nkey_ | Any way to force 4K sectors in mdadm? | 01:15 |
| daftykins | i forget, is it a host or a KVM guest? | 01:16 |
| m0nkey_ | KVM host | 01:16 |
| daftykins | hmm well without any running the virt tech should be irrelevant | 01:16 |
| m0nkey_ | doing a simple DD | 01:17 |
| m0nkey_ | Hitting 20MB/sec | 01:17 |
| m0nkey_ | KVM tops out around 6 | 01:17 |
| m0nkey_ | 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 52.3285 s, 20.5 MB/s | 01:18 |
| m0nkey_ | How'd I force it to build using 4K? | 01:22 |
| daftykins | you are using a blocksize though right? on the dd command | 01:22 |
| daftykins | no idea there, when i've done RAID it's been for large files so i've done 64KB or larger | 01:24 |
| m0nkey_ | i've destroyed the array and testing with a single disk | 01:50 |
| m0nkey_ | see how kvm performs on writes with that | 01:50 |
| m0nkey_ | interesting | 01:51 |
| m0nkey_ | with a single disk, it's slow | 01:51 |
| m0nkey_ | testing the second disk | 01:52 |
| daftykins | o0 | 01:55 |
| m0nkey_ | wow, even with the second disk, it's super slow writes | 01:55 |
| m0nkey_ | maybe it's my controller :) | 01:56 |
| daftykins | what is it? | 01:56 |
| daftykins | maybe there's a bad driver, mmm | 01:56 |
| m0nkey_ | whats the command to see that again? | 01:58 |
| daftykins | lspci ? | 01:58 |
| m0nkey_ | 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40) | 01:58 |
| daftykins | hmm so it is just chipset based most likely | 01:59 |
| daftykins | i thought this was like, a workplace server | 01:59 |
| m0nkey_ | heh, no | 01:59 |
| m0nkey_ | just some home crap box | 01:59 |
| daftykins | ah | 01:59 |
| m0nkey_ | Ubuntu doesn't do ZFS as a root filesystem, right? | 02:00 |
| daftykins | can you ID the motherboard? maybe that'd give some search results | 02:00 |
| daftykins | mmm, pass | 02:00 |
| m0nkey_ | Base Board Information | 02:00 |
| m0nkey_ | Manufacturer: MSI | 02:00 |
| m0nkey_ | Product Name: 870A-G54 (MS-7599) | 02:00 |
| daftykins | sounds right for how it used to be, but no idea on current | 02:00 |
| m0nkey_ | it's an old AMD board | 02:00 |
| daftykins | AMD® 870+SB850 chipset | 02:01 |
| daftykins | mmk | 02:01 |
| m0nkey_ | Yeah, wasn't a brilliant board to begin with :) | 02:01 |
| daftykins | can you check out what SATA configuration modes you have in BIOS? | 02:02 |
| m0nkey_ | From memory, ACHI, IDE and RAID | 02:02 |
| daftykins | mmm, apparently AHCI is really bad on that chipset | 02:03 |
| m0nkey_ | oh | 02:03 |
| m0nkey_ | okay | 02:03 |
| daftykins | i see talk of folk moaning about AMD's AHCI support | 02:03 |
| m0nkey_ | I'll try that soon | 02:03 |
| m0nkey_ | Got to put my two girls to bed | 02:03 |
| m0nkey_ | brb | 02:03 |
| daftykins | it's a total longshot but yeah, maybe in IDE mode it'll do something different :D | 02:03 |
| daftykins | roger that | 02:03 |
| m0nkey_ | ok they're in bed | 02:18 |
| m0nkey_ | and i'm in IDE mode | 02:20 |
| daftykins | dun-dun-duuuuun | 02:20 |
| m0nkey_ | kicking off a vm install | 02:20 |
| m0nkey_ | ok, write speeds are up | 02:21 |
| m0nkey_ | avg 10MB/sec | 02:21 |
| daftykins | :/ | 02:21 |
| m0nkey_ | that's a slight improvement | 02:21 |
| m0nkey_ | better than 4MB/sec | 02:21 |
| daftykins | is that install just the quivalent of a debootstrap kinda process on this RAID 1, then? | 02:22 |
| daftykins | *equiv | 02:22 |
| m0nkey_ | yes, i guess so | 02:22 |
| m0nkey_ | i'm booting the debian install iso | 02:22 |
| m0nkey_ | and when it starts the install it slows to a crawl | 02:22 |
| daftykins | i've actually got a setup here that i could try the same on and see if it's bad at the same stripe sizes etc, over the weekend | 02:24 |
| daftykins | probably be moot due to not having the same chipset though | 02:24 |
| m0nkey_ | it's probably because of crappy chipset and drives | 02:25 |
| m0nkey_ | when I do a ZFS rootfs, I can add a SSD as a write cache, so it's fast that way. | 02:25 |
| daftykins | i saw something about using a cache drive with mdadm too whilst trawling around | 02:26 |
| daftykins | i've not used mdadm before so it could be fun anyways :) | 02:27 |
| daftykins | ok gotta sleep for now, ttfn \o | 02:27 |
| mappps | urgh time of yr its hard to sleep..hot and sticky ;[ | 05:40 |
| m0nkey_ | whats the temp there? | 05:50 |
| mappps | 24c | 05:54 |
| mappps | 66% humidity | 05:54 |
| m0nkey_ | that it? :) | 05:55 |
| mappps | heh | 06:00 |
| m0nkey_ | I was expecting 32C+ :) | 06:00 |
| mappps | feels sticky and cant have my window open as building new flats nex door | 06:00 |
| mappps | so its hot ;[ | 06:00 |
| m0nkey_ | it's 19C, feels like 24C here this evening. 83% humidity. | 06:04 |
| m0nkey_ | It's actually been a cool day | 06:04 |
| m0nkey_ | Most of the week it reached 31C | 06:04 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:22 |
| diddledan | wow. I missed the whole dallas thing on thursday | 10:55 |
| diddledan | apparently the police used a robot to end the violence in a "show of lethal force" (as someone wrote) | 10:55 |
| diddledan | while I appreciate that it was the least dangerous way to end the conflict with fewer casualties I can't help but think about skynet | 10:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | because they didn't have the area secure? | 11:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | in next hostage situation, a drone, police, media or private will escalate things after this | 11:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | even worse, you'll probably start hearing of more paranoid individuals shooting down drones as they think the police are out to get them | 11:11 |
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| diddledan | wtf? this is twisted: https://youtu.be/sg0D1PpgCXs | 19:22 |
| diddledan | transformers go "politically correct” with optimus turning female | 19:23 |
| diddledan | bit of swearing and shooting each other | 19:23 |
| daftykins | that's... weird | 19:38 |
| daftykins | also, double clicking desktop icons kills kittens | 19:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | thats default in winme | 19:39 |
| daftykins | hmm actually i had a massive mental fail there, that IS default :D | 19:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's the active desktop shenanigans... i spent a large amount of time turning that off in every pc i encountered | 19:42 |
| diddledan | I always knew you were a nutjob | 19:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | just me and my collection of singing potatoes | 19:43 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: because who wouldn’t want html everywhere?! | 19:43 |
| daftykins | yeah, i couldn't stand that rubbish | 19:43 |
| daftykins | seems i'm as confused as megatron today | 19:43 |
| diddledan | do you have boobies? | 19:43 |
| daftykins | not yet, as far as i can tell | 19:44 |
| diddledan | you need estrogen then | 19:44 |
| * daftykins spies Freenode lag | 19:46 | |
| diddledan | Laggard! | 19:46 |
| * diddledan lags ‘ard | 19:46 | |
| zmoylan-pi | i've had to kick irssi twice already. ddos probably underway, my other irc server is grand | 19:46 |
| daftykins | so here's an amusing tale of modern technology, i decided to let my lovely new system update its' BIOS today - which it can do over the internet from inside the EFI! | 19:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | that sounds... fun | 19:47 |
| diddledan | scary | 19:47 |
| daftykins | however once it was done, it wanted the same image file again to do another portion, apparently - but if i told it to check online again it simply told me that it was already current! | 19:47 |
| diddledan | my new board has 16MB of bios/efi thingy chip | 19:47 |
| diddledan | two chips of 128Mbit | 19:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | oh is this one of those it runs out of space for updates whoopsies? | 19:47 |
| daftykins | it also refused to read flash drives for whatever reason, so i had to whip the side panel off, throw the image on a SATA HDD and plug it in so it could see it again | 19:47 |
| daftykins | :D | 19:48 |
| ali1234 | my new board has an SPI programming header... so it's impossible to brick it | 19:48 |
| diddledan | ali1234: nice | 19:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | like the titanic was unsinkable... :-P | 19:48 |
| penguin42 | have you got the raw image and a spi programmer? | 19:48 |
| ali1234 | i have an spi programmer | 19:48 |
| daftykins | asus ones tend to be so as well, because it can read in from a USB drive too afaiui | 19:49 |
| diddledan | I resurrected a board a while back through one of those headers | 19:49 |
| diddledan | was an MSI jobby | 19:49 |
| daftykins | maybe i should contact asus about that glaring ommission | 19:50 |
| daftykins | when it updates online i think it just holds the image in RAM, so you don't have it anymore for the second boot | 19:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair. - douglas adams | 19:50 |
| daftykins | :D | 19:51 |
| daftykins | diddledan: is your current win10 build ~43xx ? | 19:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | those wise words have been a great comfort while fixing things that couldn't /break/ | 19:51 |
| penguin42 | I had 'fun' recovering a phone I bricked over new year; turns out qualcomm based phones have a very very low level fallback boot loader you can reimage from | 19:51 |
| daftykins | lower than button press types? | 19:51 |
| ali1234 | normally they have a failsafe in mask rom | 19:52 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Yes | 19:52 |
| diddledan | 14383 I think | 19:52 |
| penguin42 | for even after you screw the fastboot up | 19:52 |
| daftykins | there's a big qualcomm encryption patchload coming for Nexus phones this month | 19:52 |
| daftykins | diddledan: ah yeah, i heard that's practically final | 19:53 |
| daftykins | gone gold so my news tells me :O | 19:53 |
| diddledan | Yup. the watermark is gone | 19:53 |
| daftykins | BAM and the watermark is GONE! | 19:53 |
| m0nkey_ | What's the current feeling on TeamViewer? | 19:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | do crickets recommend teamviewer? :-P | 20:06 |
| ali1234 | tasbot time http://twitchls.com/gamesdonequick | 20:14 |
| daftykins | m0nkey_: strikes me as harmless to use, but i don't think i'd install it anywhere - just have people use the 'run only' functionality | 20:18 |
| daftykins | at least that's a thing on the Windows version | 20:19 |
| daftykins | haha tool assisted speedrun (TAS) of a mario game that's literally walking through memory right now; | 20:23 |
| daftykins | www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick | 20:23 |
| m0nkey_ | I need an always on remote control thing | 20:24 |
| daftykins | OS? | 20:25 |
| daftykins | how'd the RAID experiments go btw? | 20:25 |
| m0nkey_ | Windows | 20:28 |
| m0nkey_ | Gave up | 20:28 |
| daftykins | which edition of Windows? because RDP is there if it's Pro or up | 20:29 |
| m0nkey_ | Eventually installed Proxmox, which does ZFS root.. allowing me to put a SSD cache, so it's fast. | 20:29 |
| daftykins | ah har | 20:29 |
| daftykins | so i'd just run regedit and modify the default RDP port listened on and forward it, then job done | 20:36 |
| m0nkey_ | <-- home edition, there is no rdp server | 20:42 |
| daftykins | which version? you can hack it on i always heard | 20:44 |
| m0nkey_ | 10 | 20:53 |
| daftykins | hrmm. | 20:54 |
| daftykins | https://github.com/stascorp/rdpwrap/releases | 20:55 |
| daftykins | apparently this adds it :D | 20:55 |
| m0nkey_ | tried it, doesn't work.. the listener service fails to start | 21:17 |
| daftykins | hmm | 21:50 |
| daftykins | well you can teamviewer it if you enable 2FA and use a good pass i suspect | 21:51 |
| m0nkey_ | thats new | 22:01 |
| m0nkey_ | TV has introduced trusted devices | 22:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | didn't they have a slight security problem recently? | 22:02 |
| m0nkey_ | Hmm, also Chrome Remote Desktop.. that could work | 22:04 |
| m0nkey_ | Yeah, that works well :-) | 22:09 |
| daftykins | err | 22:49 |
| daftykins | remote tech in a browser? seems legit (not) | 22:49 |
| ali1234 | zmoylan-pi: teamviewer breach seems to be down to the linked-in hack | 22:50 |
| ali1234 | no evidence that they were directly compromised (would have been much bigger news if they were) | 22:50 |
| daftykins | yeah just poor passwords | 22:50 |
| daftykins | and pass reuse | 22:50 |
| ali1234 | i still wouldn't use it though | 22:51 |
| ali1234 | ssh is enough | 22:51 |
| daftykins | we were talking about windows remote access, so no | 22:51 |
| ali1234 | put windows in a VM on a linux host | 22:52 |
| daftykins | that's ridiculous | 23:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | can you run windows in a vm under os/2? :-P | 23:07 |
| * penguin42 isn't aware of a VM system for os/2 | 23:08 | |
| zmoylan-pi | there was news of a new release of os/2 and i have seen notes about installing it in a vm... just seems odd that no crazy sod has made windows run under os/2... :-) | 23:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | 1 2 3 | 23:12 |
| penguin42 | a b c ? | 23:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | d e f g | 23:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z | 23:13 |
| Myrtti | eh | 23:15 |
| daftykins | i've a feeling it's a demonstration of how irritating someone can be :) | 23:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | daftykins, no it was a response to penguin42 | 23:18 |
| daftykins | you fooled me :D | 23:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | daftykins, oh and irritating would have been flooding the channel with the alaphbet a few or more liens | 23:34 |
| daftykins | oh you wouldn't have lasted long :) | 23:35 |
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