YankDownUnderBadBoy09: Since Google doesn't appear to be your forte, read this: http://www.deepweb-sites.com/deep-web-links-2015/00:00
MihasiAlso, I can't get nvidia-prime to work properly. It worked on my 15.10 partition, although I had to reboot to switch GPUs (instead of just logout), but when I try installing it on 16.04 (along with the nvidia-361) I get a black screen after boot.00:00
OerHeksBadBoy09, i think you need TOR for that, not sure as i never tried that fancy network00:00
OerHeksgoogle.onion ?00:00
justsomeguyMihasi: Honestly, nvidia optimus on *nix is a mess. I've never been able to get it to work.00:01
justsomeguy...but it could just be because I'm stupid.00:02
YankDownUnderjustsomeguy: There was a time when NVidia was "the bomb" - but that's all changed now.00:03
Mihasijustsomeguy: it's definitely not. I've already wasted so much time on it. Eventually on 15.10 I stumbled upon a magical combination of bumblebee, nvidia-prime AND a specific version of the nvidia driver that worked and which I didn't dare to touch since, but now that 15.10 is EOL...00:04
minasotasaw mutt-patched in the repo, installed for the sidebar patch. Doesn't have any keybindings in sidebar.rc. Tried setting a few in .muttrc, no luck. Any suggestions/help would be appreciated00:04
MihasiFor now, my plan is to keep the 15.10 partition for gaming, at least for the time being. I'll use this 16.04 partition for everything else, but if I'm not going to use the Nvidia GPU anyway I would like to disable it for battery savings.00:06
justsomeguyMihasi: On 16.04 I ended up uninstalling/disabling everything but mesa, and blocking nouveau with a grub boot option. Hoepfully that will work for you, too.00:06
Mihasijustsomeguy: How exactly did you block nouveau in grub? nomoset=0?00:07
justsomeguyMihasi: Probably, let me look it up.00:07
jon_nacc_, have a great weekend.  anyone else willing to help?00:08
jon_touchpad.  or whatever that is called00:08
Mihasijustsomeguy: Thx. And just to be sure: you also uninstalled nouveau? I don't have that option in the "additional drivers" dialog, but I guess an apt purge should work.00:09
justsomeguyMihasi: I'm not on ubuntu right now, but if I remember correctly all I did was 'dpkg --get-selections *nvidia* *nouveau*' and examined the output. I uninstalled all the packages that seemed reasonable with 'apt-get purge <packagename>'. I think I used "nouveau.modeset=0".00:11
justsomeguy...at the grub boot screen to block nouveau during boot time.00:11
justsomeguyMihasi: Also, be sure to have mesa installed.00:12
Mihasijustsomeguy: Any specific mesa packages I should have installed? Right now it looks like these are the drivers I have installed: mesa-vdpau-drivers (along with number of related dri, glx,... packages)00:16
justsomeguyMihasi: Honestly, I don't know. I think you already have what you need. I usually break my system several times while trying to solve issues like this.00:18
Mihasijustsomeguy: I know the feeling. Maybe I should wait until someone can answer the vgaswitcheroo questions. I think the "DynOff" option *should* mean that it's switched off...00:20
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BlueProtomanHow do I install Fmod on Ubuntu?  I can't seem to find up-to-date instructions anywhere.00:36
MihasiBlueProtoman: Can't help you with Fmod, but I can share your frustration about not finding up-to-date instructions, especially for a distro that is supposed to be newbie-friendly.00:42
tgm4883fmod seems to be a commercial application...00:44
nomicoutta these 3, what would people recommend for setting up a websocket, port 80, proxy server on ubuntu/linux  1. apache2 2. lighttpd 3. nginx00:44
BlueProtomantgm4883: It's got a free library, which I'm trying to install.00:47
rypervenchenomic: Dependt on your needs. I like nginx personally.00:47
nomici thought nginx 1. there seem to be more inroads to the setup of websocket (proxy) .. 2. v light/fast/small .. apache is like the leatherman .. 3.00:48
tgm4883BlueProtoman: by free, you mean as in beer I suppose00:48
nomic3. it seems to be  supported/current00:49
mchelen2BlueProtoman: it's free as in $0, but not free as in freedom00:49
mchelen2i.e. behind a registration wall00:49
nomicalso, I read that nginx as of a recentish version has websockets built in, as standard00:49
BlueProtomanmchelen2, tgm4883: Correct00:50
mchelen2BlueProtoman: unfortunately that means its kind of hard for us to look at00:50
nomichave installed/ tried out apache .. seems to be a bit slow on a raspberry pi 300:50
mchelen2BlueProtoman: you could try https://wiki.debian.org/FMOD idk how current it is00:50
mchelen2nomic: what os are you running?00:51
nomicmate for the server .. on raspberry pi 300:51
mchelen2there are a ton of perf tweaks you can use00:51
mchelen2also dont run gui on server00:51
rypervenchenomic: https://www.nginx.com/blog/websocket-nginx/00:51
tgm4883BlueProtoman: I'd point out that it seems silly to blame a distribution for the difficulty of installing commercial software that the developers don't seem to support all that well00:51
mchelen2tgm4883: i didn't see them doing any blaming?00:51
nomicthanks for that article rypervenche  .. not always obvious searching ie. THE article00:52
nomicgetting blogs etc00:52
tgm4883mchelen2: TBF, it was Mihasi00:52
mchelen2nomic: nginx is good too, in either case i still recommend headless, no-gui os for server00:52
nomicerm .. it gives a bit speed increase?00:52
nomichmm .. cos that means I would have to get another pi300:52
nomicmchelen -- headless because the gui, even not used, is sucking up resource?00:53
nomicthese raspberry pi3s are breeding -- already got 2 as desktops00:53
rypervenchenomic: Why do you need a GUI?00:53
nomicthought could just put server on 1 .. if its a big performance increase00:53
nomicbecause I am using hte pi3s as desktops00:53
nomicseriously .. it works00:54
nomici type on laptop, with xubuntu, mouse drifts across to raspberry pi 3 screens, with x2x00:54
rypervencheYou don't need/want one on a server.00:54
nomicasking again -- it really slows it down00:54
rypervencheOn a pi, it definitely can.00:55
nomicupon deployment, I would set up a headless00:55
nomicfor test, atm, would go with it on the thing that I use for tv etc00:55
rypervencheI suppose this isn't really Ubuntu-related.00:55
rypervencheOh, they have added OSes since I last looked.00:57
nomicgot enough info -- carry on00:57
nomichow many?00:57
Mihasitgm4883: I confess, I was doing the blaming. :P But I wasn't blaming the distribution for the difficulty of installing commercial software, but for the lack of centralized, up-to-date information. It's a bit weird that I usually find better explanations on the Arch wiki than in the Ubuntu docs, wiki and AskUbuntu combined...00:57
rypervencheGo with a GUI if you are comfortable with it.00:57
nomicunderstood .. its overhead00:58
nomicwhy there are server versions (no gui)00:58
mchelen2tgm4883: oh ok00:58
nomicwould get a rpi3 and clock it00:58
nomicaint done that yet00:58
nomicclocking is as a standard option with the pi300:59
nomicyou just need a heatsink -- v nice copper ones all over ebay -- just  stick them on .. the rpi3 doesn't need a fan00:59
mchelen2nomic: yeah desktop software has a big overhead, servers should run only server software00:59
mchelen2you can develop with that extra stuff but dont expect good perf00:59
Hulioanyone know how to write getting the mattch regular expression for this ?  Your IP address: <a href="/ip/">01:00
mchelen2Mihasi: anecdotal evidence is anecdotal01:00
Hulioi'm not good on regular expression01:00
nomicas with anything surrounding the pi3 ..  this is not an issue now .. the units consume 1.5 watt of power, maximum -- and the board cost (last time I looked), is $3301:00
Bashing-omMihasi: Are you aware : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages ? A tremendous amount of effort and resources are expended to keep it current .01:00
mchelen2Hulio: try http://www.regexpal.com/01:00
Huliomchelen2, come on man01:00
mchelen2yes really01:01
mchelen2Hulio: you didn't even say what you were trying to match in that01:01
rypervencheHulio: #regex is useful.01:02
Huliobasically i have a lot of string.    and i want to get IP from   string that contain   Your IP address:01:02
Huliook thakns01:02
MihasiBashing-om: thanks, didn't know about those yet.01:03
Bashing-omMihasi: :) .. No internet police to clean up debris that get left behind .01:04
mchelen2Mihasi: yeah there is just no way to document install / usage for every piece of software out there01:05
Mihasimchelen2: How does Arch do it then?01:05
MihasiDon't get me wrong, I love Ubuntu.01:05
MihasiI've only used Arch once for a couple of months, but the Wiki is just extremely well done.01:06
rypervencheMihasi: I think rolling release makes it easier.01:06
tgm4883When you have to configure everything manually, you end up having to document everything /s01:07
Mihasirypervenche: Why would that be the case? They still need to update it every time a package is (significantly) updated, right?01:08
* nomic not a fan of regex01:08
rypervencheMihasi: Yes, but only for one version of it.01:08
nomichopefully that article (nginx websocket proxy) won't bee too attached to node.js .. all articles  are -- I am not using node.js01:10
nomicseems everyone is01:10
mchelen2Mihasi: are you comparing them 1:1? can you say arch wiki covers X topics well, and ubuntu wiki covers Y topics, and X > Y?01:11
mchelen2Mihasi: or is it that arch wiki is covering the topics that you happen to be interested in01:11
mchelen2(which is still a big achievement, just somewhat different)01:11
mchelen2nomic: what are you using? node is nice for async stuff, which is where ws shine01:12
tgm4883Can we move this discussion to #ubuntu-discuss01:12
nomicautobahn = twisted01:12
mchelen2tgm4883: yeah fair enough01:12
Mihasitgm4883: sure01:12
nomicws is only for async01:12
nomici aint decide yet, between autobahn or tornadio01:12
nomictornado .. tbh .. whatever I get working first, goes in01:13
nomicmany people favor tornado01:13
nomicnode.js seems to have taken the market -- but, from what I understand, it is a subset of javascript01:13
nomicmaybe why it has taken the market01:13
* nomic would favor autobahn = twisted01:14
skweeki've read node.js is pretty powerful...02:07
skweeki've also read that rails is too02:07
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dudebro123Interesting problem. I have a laptop with a removable SATA interface. I interchange between my SATA Bluray disc drive and my SATA DVD drive. For some reason, inserting a drive into the SATA bay does not initialize the drive unless a drive was in the bay during boot. IS there a way to initialize the drive manually if there was no drive in the bay during boot?02:23
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blacknred0any recommendations on how to generate a key so I don't get this error -> "Unable to negotiate with no matching host key type found. Their offer: ssh-dss"?  I am doing "ssh-keygen -t rsa"02:44
reisioblacknred0: what generates the error?02:45
blacknred0reisio: when I try to connect to my remote server from my client02:45
blacknred0i thought that rsa was not the same as dss02:46
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tortibdoes anyone know what pkg has affectx.h in it?03:02
rypervencheblacknred0: What are the server and client OSes?03:03
Xrmand95indonesian channel?03:03
rypervencheblacknred0: http://www.openssh.com/legacy.html03:04
blacknred0rypervenche: yes, I found that, but I am not sure how to know if I am using the right key, if is not rsa, would i need to create it using dsa?03:05
blacknred0rypervenche: svr debian 6.0.10; client ubuntu 16.0403:05
blacknred0i mean, it does work if i do ssh -oHostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-dss user@hostname , but i am trying to avoid adding options on my ssh commands03:06
rypervencheblacknred0: Does the client have a dsa key in its ~/.ssh/ directory?03:09
blacknred0rypervenche: yes, on ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 and for fail save ~/.ssh/authorized_keys03:10
rypervencheblacknred0: I mean an actual key. Like id_dsa03:10
blacknred0rypervenche: sorry, yes, the id_dsa is on client and the server has the public key on those path03:11
rypervencheblacknred0: Does the client have an RSA key as well?03:12
blacknred0rypervenche: yes, that is what doesn't make any sense03:12
rypervencheblacknred0: Add -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa to your SSH command.03:12
blacknred0i've tried both rsa and dsa03:13
rypervencheSame error when you specify it like that?03:13
blacknred0rypervenche: yep03:13
blacknred0hold on... I am calling help desk from the hosting to see what might be happing03:14
rypervencheI wonder if it's because the known hosts or something.03:14
blacknred0just wanted to make sure that i was sane before i contact them03:14
rypervencheblacknred0: Was the server ever an older version of Debian that was then upgraded?03:15
rypervencheblacknred0: Try running "ssh-keygen -A" on the server with root/sudo (it won't overwrite anything). See what that does.03:16
blacknred0rypervenche: that i don't know03:17
rypervencheDon't know what?03:18
blacknred0rypervenche: if the debian version was upgraded03:20
rypervencheblacknred0: That will create any keys on the server that don't exist already. Then we'll check your server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config.03:20
blacknred0rypervenche: i assume that they are using old dss and that's why i am having the issues03:21
rypervencheblacknred0: Debian 6 should have RSA.03:21
rypervencheUnless it's some really restricted service that you have.03:21
blacknred0that could be very well03:21
blacknred0let me see what support has to say03:22
blacknred0thanks rypervenche03:22
rypervencheblacknred0: Do you not have root access?03:22
blacknred0rypervenche: not on the server03:23
rypervencheAh ok. Good luck then :)03:23
rypervencheYou have a workaround until they fix it.03:23
blacknred0yep, i kind of figured03:24
blacknred0wow! rypervenche, server is running "OpenSSH_5.8p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010"03:31
rypervencheAnd therein lies the problem^^03:31
blacknred0so, it is the client that is blocking it?03:32
blacknred0that makes more sense if they can't shake hands03:32
rypervencheYes. OpenSSH 7.0 and up have disabled the DSS cipher by default as it is weak.03:32
blacknred0rypervenche: ok03:33
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tortibI'm using  make -I/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu  to try to get this software to build and it's still saying it's not able to find sys/uio.h04:06
ajeffcoI have a machine that every few reboots boots to "error: attempt to read or write outside of disk `hd0`" and goes into rescue mode.  Ctrl-Alt-Del or power cycle and it boots fine.04:07
ajeffcoI've no idea what could be causing this... failing drive?04:07
ajeffcothis is with ubuntu 16.04 server04:07
phelpsiv@ajeffco I'm guessing it's a hardware issue. I have a laptop that has a small short near the hd or battery. Does a similar thing. Basically I don't keep anything important on it04:12
hwkngwhat's the most lightweight chromebook/netbook to root + install ubuntu on?04:12
SchrodingersScatajeffco: worth checking out, I would definitely !backup anything important on there.04:12
OerHekstortib, looks like libc6 is not installed http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libc6-dev04:12
phelpsivDefinitely agree with @SchrodingersScat04:13
ajeffcoThanks.  It's a fresh load on an old machine that hasn't been used in a while04:13
ajeffcoit had ubuntu 14.something on it, wasn't happening until I loaded 16.  I'll downgrade and see if stops04:14
ajeffcoit's only every 4th boot or so that it happens04:14
SchrodingersScat!info gnome-disk-utility | ajeffco: iirc this has an easy to read smart data panel, but I'm sure there's several programs you can use. this is a gui.04:14
ubottuajeffco: iirc this has an easy to read smart data panel, but I'm sure there's several programs you can use. this is a gui.: gnome-disk-utility (source: gnome-disk-utility): manage and configure disk drives and media. In component main, is optional. Version (xenial), package size 207 kB, installed size 944 kB04:14
ajeffcoyea, checked the disk smart stats... nothing bad in the output04:15
Bashing-omajeffco: ttps://www.smartmontools.org/ ; https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/TocDoc ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192335 .04:15
ajeffcoThanks for the responses all04:16
Apachezany hints on how to deal with that in ubuntu 16.04 with oibaf drivers (intel i5-4250U graphics) after some hours of monitor "sleep" when its about to return I only have a black screen and only the mouse visible?04:19
reisioApachez: using plain Ubuntu?04:20
OerHeksApachez, seen that, switching to tty2 and back to tty7 fixes that (sometimes)04:20
tortibI'm using  make -I/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu  to try to get this software to build and it's still saying it's not able to find sys/uio.h04:21
reisiojonky: heya04:21
jonkylast week after a software update, my wireless adapter(tp-link t4uh) stopped working.  there were 4-5 people here at the same time experiencing hardware problems after the update, but nothing was figured out while I was here. have any similar problems or resolutions been mentioned lately?04:23
ApachezOerHeks: ill try that next time04:23
Apachezthe odd thing is that this only seems to happen after a few hours of inacticvity04:23
jonkyspecifically it was on july 2nd04:23
Apachezthe regular "shutdown monitor" timeout I use is 10min04:23
Apachezbut that doesnt (on its own) have to do with this04:24
jonkyoh, and now my second display isn't being recognized04:24
Apachezanother q, any of you experienced problems with reading cd/dvd using usb cd/dvd reader/burner in ubuntu 15.x and 16.x? I mean other than shitty discs or shitty reader, any other hints on how to troubleshoot this on ubuntu?04:32
reisioyou'll have to be more specific than "problems"04:33
effectnethi i want an adroid emulator.  any good ones?04:33
reisioeffectnet: well there's the official one04:33
reisiothat should suffice04:34
reisio's'called 'android-sdk', IIRC04:35
tortibIs someone willing to help me get some software built?04:35
YankDownUnderCan I make a million dollars in less than a week and retire?04:35
cncr04sc++ coder for hire04:36
OerHekstortib, looks like libc6 is not installed http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libc6-dev04:36
Apachezproblems = cannot read the disc, but sometimes it can04:38
reisiotortib: what software04:38
jonkytortib, do you have a super sweet idea but only lack the necessary skills to bring it to market and looking for a technical partner who recognises and matches your business savvy?04:38
YankDownUndercncr04s: I'd prefer to have a "App" - a paid for "app"  - sold on iTunes - which does basically NOTHING - but teens all over the world would want (at least for the moment) - and I'd be able to rake in tonnes of money and just chill and retire...that's as practical as I can get... ;)04:38
reisioApachez: next time you get into it, try using mplayer dvd:// and you'll get more useful debugging output than any GUI04:38
usulHello. I'm a bit stuck hoping for your help. Maybe I misunderstood Tor's instructions, but maybe I installed something other than the browser? https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en04:41
usulWhen I launch tor from terminal I just get "Bootstrapped 100% done", then nothing at all.04:41
Apachezreisio: tnx04:41
usulGuess I'm just wondering if I installed the actual browser, if not, how can i reverse the gpg key I put in?04:42
cncr04sI unforrtunatly don't know anything about teens these days, but when I was a teen, having a walkman was the cool thing to have04:43
reisiousul: don't want to use torbrowser-launcher from universe repo?04:43
reisiocncr04s: that's still cool (portable audio), but everyone has it so it's not that kind of exclusive coolness04:43
YankDownUnderYeah - there are "Tor" tools already built into the repos...why bother going through the hassle of "external" setups...hmm...(re-inventing the wheel)04:44
usulYeah makes sense. Tor's website says to avoid using univ repo but honestly imma just do it anyway. How can I remove the gpg keys I added?04:45
usulor does it not matter04:45
reisiousul: why's it say that?04:48
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jim__Great wizards of Ubuntu, I want to set up a mail server that runs locally only.  It's been a few years but I use to set up BSD and OSF lab systems that had a mail facility limited to the local system only.  This basically allowed programs to send problems messages to root.  How do I get Ubuntu to do that same thing?05:02
reisiojim__: that's pretty much the default05:03
reisiojust install a mail server & call it a day05:03
jim__I have been looking at potential mail servers and they all go into how to connect to a POP server and all that, most confusing and unnecessary.  What is the simplest mail server out there?05:05
reisiojim__: whatever tasksel chooses05:06
reisioprobably postfix05:07
jim__yep, I have seen postfix all over the place...  maybe I was reading to far into the instructions....05:08
* YankDownUnder has a giggle about "simple" mail servers05:11
YankDownUnderI think building a nuclear device is vastly simpler than building a smooth running mail server...(well, I've built many mail servers...so I can only venture a guess at nuclear devices) :)05:12
bynariejim__, u could try mail in a box, https://mailinabox.email/05:16
bynarieits a stack thats super simple to configure05:17
jim__Hmmm.... haven't looked at "mailinabox" yet, I'll check it also05:17
bynarieif ur looking to host your own email server with a domain name and have zero experience setting up mail servers, this is basically your option05:19
jim__Mailinabox right up front has a few key phrases that worry me "turns a fresh cloud computer into a working mail server" a bit more than I'm looking for I think.05:21
YankDownUnder...was just sussing that out...makes me prefer postfix+courier a bit more...I prefer to have things "in sight" as it were...05:22
deaHi. I was hoping someone would help me with pulse audio.05:24
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reisioGuest5875: pulseaudio; what about it05:25
Guest5875Well, I started out with my mic not working. I disabled one of the input channels and that worked. Then, the channel turned itself on and auto leveled with the remaining one, disabling my mic again. I came here for help, got told to poke around the config. Did that, now I get no audio at all after I log in.05:28
reisioGuest5875: /nick deaguy05:29
reisioGuest5875: laptop?05:29
Guest5875Yeah, it's a lenovo flex 2.05:30
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deaincaeloI thought I had undid all the edits to daemon.config and restarted, but apparently I noobed something.05:32
reisiothinking'll do that, every time05:32
reisiodeaincaelo: what if you open up pavucontrol and change the mic to the 'unplugged' option05:33
reisioniceman: I concur05:34
deaincaeloStill no response unless I kill a channel. I would have to watch it for a random reset.05:34
reisioniceman: agreed05:36
deaincaeloI'll check it in an hour05:36
nicemanwhat are u talking about reisio?05:36
deaincaeloAny thoughts about the audio none issue?05:37
nicemanthere is no girl here?05:37
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joshh20Hello, I am attempting to start a GRE tunnel upon reboot but for some reason the ip route commands aren't being run by crontab05:38
nicemandouble n is good05:38
YankDownUnderdeaincaelo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure05:40
nicemanwhat is it?05:40
nicemanI still use Windows on my pc05:40
jim__postfix states that it started life as SendMail, which is the tool use on the BSD and OSF systems I was use to.  So... it looks like postfix is what I'll try to use.  Its just that as I read the instructions it seems like they immediately get into setting up  your FQDN, of which I have none....  So maybe it is as simple as install and leave it alone.  who knows...05:43
YankDownUnderjim__: Works great with dynamic dns, ya know...so, you can utilise FQDN with dynamic dns...05:44
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joshh20Hello, I am attempting to start a GRE tunnel upon reboot but for some reason the ip route commands aren't being run by crontab. Any ideas why this would be?05:50
deaincaeloThanks yank, but that doesn't seem the right troubleshooting flow. I did a little reductive t/s and it looks like a Chrome issue. Audio works in Firefox.05:51
YankDownUnderdeaincaelo: Far out...BLAME GOOGLE! Yeah! (I like blaming Google for whatever I can...it's nearly natural...and if not Google, it's Micro$oft)05:52
jim__YankDownUnder: I have a real simple hosts file.  first line:   localhost      second line:    boxer     No DNS,  No FQDN, just a simple stand alone system05:55
reisiopqdn? :p05:55
YankDownUnderjim__: So is this supposed to be a "standalone" isolated mail server - like more or less a respository for email as opposed to a "fetch/store/send" serverr?05:56
jim__YankDownUnder:  the only thing I want out of the mail utility is to deliver to "root" messages from applications05:57
jim__some apps when they finish just feel they absolutely must tell someone about it and they want to do it via a mail message.05:58
YankDownUnderSo you should be able to follow through the postfix setups for an isolated server...that doesn't connect to the "world" as it were...05:58
jim__yep, thats my goal05:59
YankDownUnderLook at "postfix on a null client"05:59
YankDownUnderEasy done.05:59
jim__thanks, I'll take a look at it.06:00
Datis it worth upgrading to 16.04 from 14.04?06:01
DatYankDownUnder: can you tell me any reasons why?06:01
YankDownUnderPretty colours.06:02
DatI know in the past when I did an upgrade somethings work some didn't06:02
YankDownUnderJOKING...better device support, more current drivers for network devices and the likes...06:02
DatYankDownUnder: anything besides that?06:02
Datis 14.04 life cycle dead? or is it still being supported?06:03
reisiowell you can't avoid updating forever06:03
Datand i heard the new 16.04 uses systemd does that change things abit ?06:03
reisioI mean you can, but you'll regret it eventually06:03
YankDownUnderDat: The kernels are quite smooth...I've tested Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and also Ubuntu with AfterStep, WindowMaker, Englightenment, Openlook Virtual Window Manager, Ubuntu server....Samba is smooth as with Ubuntu server...and I've had very few issues with wifi and sound drivers.06:03
* YankDownUnder likes systemd06:03
reisioDat: sure, some06:03
YankDownUnder(My preference, though)06:04
Dathrmm i guess i may have to learn systemd06:04
reisioif you want to use a distro that uses it, probably06:04
Datreisio: yeah i try and avoid updates as much as i can, it seems when i update i get the latest and greatest bugs06:04
Datreisio: i currently use kubuntu06:05
deaincaeloAlso, it defaulted back to internal microphone, adter I changed it to microphone (unplugged)06:05
joshh20I think I may switch from Linux to systemd soon06:05
reisiojoshh20: heh06:05
reisiodeaincaelo: did it work while it was set to 'unplugged'?06:06
jim__systemd, as I read it, is a boot process that gets all in a hurry to try to do as little as possible until it has to.06:06
reisioDat: some distros make more drastic changes from version to version than others06:06
Dati just updated my mac from 10.6 to the new el capitan that i have been avoiding for along while, seems nice but I need more ram :(06:06
reisiothe distro I use, for example, has had the same init system the entire 16 or so years I've been using it06:06
reisiowith no particular signs of changing06:06
Datreisio: what distro is that?06:07
reisiommm, could probably afford more ram if you didn't spend so much on brushed metal06:07
reisioDat: the one I chose06:07
deaincaeloreisio, yes it did. At least it responded correctly in the bar. It also responds the same if I set it to internal microphone and turn down either channel.06:07
reisiodeaincaelo: okay, then you can just script it to change to the unplugged setting every time you start the system06:08
Datanyone living with a cd/dvd player or burner on their system?06:08
reisiohacky, but in a pragmatic way06:08
Datmine has wentout but im conflicted if i should replace it06:08
deaincaeloI would have to run that script multiple times if it keeps changing the setting during runtime.06:09
YankDownUnderI've got a nice external CD/DVD that is used when it's actually needed...otherwise, it collects dust and makes a good partial bookend.06:09
irwisscould just grab external06:09
DatYankDownUnder: i was thinking the same, maybe invest in a external but i wonder if my internal cd/dvd burner could be converted into hard-drive space.06:10
DatYankDownUnder: do you have a setup like that?06:10
YankDownUnderDat: I've give up all my "big" machines for laptops and mini-ATX machines - so, fairly everything is external. The linux servers and workstations mount directly behind the LCD monitors - ditto with servers - and HD space is all externals and "arrays"...does that make sense? I don't like mucking about with fans and dust anymore...and space, well, space is always at a premium...ergo, mini-things and external things...easier to06:12
YankDownUndermaintain and deal with.06:12
Dathrmm sounds good think i know what i'll do thx06:13
inerkickHi. Kindly help with this issue. http://paste.ubuntu.com/18866967/06:15
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Datoh wow06:31
Dati do a do-release-upgrade and it says there is nothing to update06:31
Datso I have to install 16.04 fresh?06:31
YankDownUnderDat: What are you upgrading from?06:31
DatYankDownUnder: 14.0406:32
YankDownUnderDat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes06:32
Datso maybe i can't go from 14.04 to 16.0406:35
Dathow come do-release-upgrade -d seems to give me results?06:36
Datis 16.04 not offically released yet?06:36
plop_its_ellieit is06:37
joshh20Hello, I am attempting to start a GRE tunnel upon reboot but for some reason the ip route commands aren't being run by crontab06:37
Dathrmm ok06:37
plop_its_ellieDat, for lts releases they dont show up in the updater until its been out for a year06:37
YankDownUnderDat: If you can't go from 14.04 but millions of other folks can, then there's something bigger to worry about, eh? :)06:38
plop_its_ellieYankDownUnder, they dont show up in the updates until its been out for a year06:38
plop_its_elliemost likely for stability reasons, lts releases are all about stability06:39
tgm4883not a year, the first point release06:39
ubottuUsers of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.06:39
plop_its_ellietgm4883, thanks for the clarifacation06:39
Datdarn i got disconnected06:39
plop_its_elliewow thats actually sooner than i thought06:39
Datplop_its_ellie: you think its safe to go the do-release-upgrade -d route or just install fresh?06:40
plop_its_ellieDat, personally i would just back up my data and install fresh06:41
tgm4883Dat: you could also just wait 2 weeks06:41
Datplop_its_ellie: i was already on a fresh install so i have nothing to loose06:41
plop_its_elliebut i would wait probably a couple weeks to a month after the .1 release before doing the upgrade06:41
plop_its_ellieand test it on a non production system in the meantime06:41
plop_its_ellie16.04 still has some bugs...06:41
Datplop_its_ellie: ahh gotcha06:42
Datmaybe I should go with 15.04 for now06:42
plop_its_ellieDat, i wouldnt recommend that06:42
plop_its_ellieits not even supported anymore06:42
plop_its_elliejust stick to 14.04 in the mean time06:42
Datoh dang06:42
plop_its_elliewhats wrong with 14.04?06:43
Datnothing at all that I can see06:43
Datalways worked well for me.06:43
plop_its_elliewell there you go :)06:43
Dati was just trying to get the latest and greatest since im on a fresh install06:44
plop_its_elliewell if you are going to do a fresh install, no uprgades i guess you might as well go 16.04 tho06:44
plop_its_elliejust keep in mine that there are some bugs tho...06:45
plop_its_ellieotherwise if you want more stability then wait a bit longer on 14.0406:45
Dati like stableness06:45
Datso 14.04 it is06:45
Dati suppose I'll kill the do-release and re-install06:46
Datthx for the tips plop_its_ellie! :)06:46
plop_its_ellieyep :)06:46
joshh20Hello, I am attempting to start a GRE tunnel upon reboot but for some reason the ip route commands aren't being run by crontab06:52
tortibHow do I install JACK in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS06:56
jim is there a jackd package?06:57
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mutantejim: yes, in xenial06:58
tortibjim, I downloaded cadence from kxstudio06:59
mutantejim: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=jackd&searchon=names06:59
YankDownUndersudo apt-get jack jack-tools06:59
jimI've got jackd and jackd2 installed06:59
tortibYankDownUnder, how do i start it?07:01
YankDownUndersudo service jackd start07:01
tortibFailed to start jackd.service: Unit jackd.service not found.07:02
YankDownUndertortib: Might have to use the systemd control panel to start it (for 16.04)07:02
jimyou can use qjackctl07:02
tortibYankDownUnder, same error07:03
tortibhow do i start it tho07:03
tortibi want it to be seamless07:03
YankDownUndertortib: As jim stated...07:03
tortibi installed qjackctl07:04
mutantesounds like it's missing a unit file for systemd. you could write one and put it in /etc/system/system. it's not super hard. and then you have proper service ...07:05
tortibqjackctl works but I don't want to open up qjackctl every time07:05
mutantetortib: re: seamless07:05
jimprobably you're running pa07:05
YankDownUndertortib: Interesting read here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/572120/how-to-use-jack-and-pulseaudio-alsa-at-the-same-time-on-the-same-audio-device07:05
jimyou may need to get jack running with alsa driver, and pa running with pa - jack bridge07:06
tortibYankDownUnder, hah that's all i needed was install pulseaudio-module-jack07:06
tortibokay now i need to figure out how to get this vst -> .so bridge working for bitwig07:08
jimthat part, I'm lucky if I can make a guess that;s useful... I never used vsts07:08
tortibwell i'm using airwave to bridge the vst with wine from a dll to a so07:09
tortibi put them in the plugins dir for bitwig but it isn't working07:09
jimwhat did the strace listing reveal about where it was loading things from?07:10
OerHekstortib, as bitwig is commercial, they sure love to help you07:11
mutantewhat are all these modern things you are talking about :) i'd have to search every second term first...  oh DJing .. cool07:13
tortibOerHeks, yeah i'll email them07:14
OerHekstortib, why? #bitwig and #bitwig-dev on #freenode07:15
tortibOerHeks, there is nobody in there07:26
tortibOerHeks, there are people in there but very few and nobody talks07:26
jackbrownis there anyone expert in GRUB?07:54
Ben64for best results, ask your real question07:55
jackbrownBen64:  thanks on my system I would like to avoid to Windows 10 to manage the boot of windows XP (I have grub and LinuxMint 18 installed)07:56
jackbrownBen64 did  I make myself clear?07:56
Jordan_U!mint | jackbrown07:57
ubottujackbrown: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org07:57
jackbrownI'm talking about grub it's a generic question07:57
cfhowlettjackbrown, you' re on mint.  use mint channels for support.07:58
Ben64this isn't a generic channel, this channel is for Ubuntu only07:58
YankDownUnder(there's an IRC server and channel run by Mint for Mint by Mint people and Mint users...info is on their website)07:58
tgm4883 !mint07:59
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org07:59
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BenSolo|CellDid Ubuntu really move to Wayland...08:23
BenSolo|CellWill there still he a LTS for an Xorg version?08:24
cfhowlett!wayland | BenSolo|Cell08:24
ubottuBenSolo|Cell: Wayland is a display server protocol that is intended to replace X. More information can be found at http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ . Ubuntu is instead focusing on development of !Mir; see its factoid for more information.08:24
BenSolo|CellOh Mir even worse..  All my old boxes won't work great.08:24
Prelude2004chey everyone good evening ... i have a GRE tunnel ... one one end its a public IP but on the other i have a NAT and i have a port forward of  say port 1234 > port 22 .. how do i set the gre up so it uses the remote ip with port ?08:25
BenSolo|CellHope there will be an LTS Xorg version08:25
tatertotsBenSolo don't be so pessimistic about things other than xorg...maybe it'll be a change for the better08:26
BenSolo|CellPrelude2004c: I'm betting the guys in #Networking will be of better assistance if no one here can help.08:26
BenSolo|CellI wasn't being pessimistic I was being realistic I have to move all my boxes to another Distro now.08:26
Prelude2004ccool thank you08:27
BenSolo|CellMir doesn't have support for a third of the old cards Xorg does.08:27
ducasseBenSolo|Cell: 16.04 still uses xorg, so you've got at least another 5 years.08:27
BenSolo|CellNp Prelude2004c hope ya get that figured out buddy.08:27
BenSolo|Cellducasse: Yeah thats true.08:28
ducasseBenSolo|Cell: i wouldn't panic quite yet :)08:29
tatertotsthat's understandable BenSolo...heck i've got a few boxes with AMD radeon gpu's and software that requires proprietary driver that spell dooms day for me too08:29
tatertotsit is what it is08:29
BenSolo|CellYeah well Linux is all about support for old hardware just don't see why they would switch away from a perfectly working display platform that supports 1000s of old cars.08:30
tatertotsthat's one of the reasons several of my boxes will remain on Ubuntu 12.04 until i decommission them08:30
cfhowlettI feel the same way about my reel to reel tape recorder.  NO GOOD REASON not to support them!08:31
BenSolo|CellBut then again I guess Ubuntu is more useful for introducing windows users to Linux Desktop.08:31
tatertotsnext year i'll take the ol 12.04 LTS boxes out back and shoot them08:31
sponixtatertots: You should Donate them to a Library or School :)08:32
BenSolo|CellIn Portland we have a non profit called Freegeek,  peope recycle old computers there and kids can volunteer there to get a free computer. Build 12 get 1 for free.  Learn all about hardware and Linux it's a good deal.08:33
tatertotsi hope amd and the green team find a way to keep their proprietary drivers relevant while at the same time not dropping support for older gpu's......wishful thinking i know but a guy can dream can't he08:34
BenSolo|CellThey also have a thift store where you can buy dirt cheap tested used pc parts.08:34
tatertotsthanks BenSolo i'm depressed now :(08:35
BenSolo|CellAlways nice to go pickup a 2 dollar working keyboard or mouse. Get some cheap memory etc.08:35
BenSolo|CellHard drives galore.08:35
BenSolo|CellI picked up 10 500GBs for 30 bucks.08:36
Dathow can I get my bluetooth to work in ubuntu it says no adapaters found but lsusb picks it up08:36
MonkeyDustDat  install blueman08:36
BenSolo|CellAll the boxes they make goto families in poverty. It's cool.08:37
MonkeyDustBenSolo|Cell  take the story to #ubuntu-offtopic08:37
DatMonkeyDust: thanks I will give that a go08:37
tatertotsi guess something had to break my dependence on amd/nvidia proprietary drivers08:38
BenSolo|CellDat you need 2 things..  The module for your Bluetooth adapter and a Bluetooth manager like blue man08:38
varaindemianI installed this package https://github.com/aacebedo/i3-xfce and now I don't know how to continue https://paste.ubuntu.com/18874239/08:38
DatBenSolo|Cell: how can I get the module for my bluetooth?08:38
BenSolo|CellIf ya found it in lusb search the name of the card like apt-cache search cardname08:38
cfhowlettvaraindemian, see instruction # 1308:38
DatHrmm ok I'll check08:39
BenSolo|CellDat I just told you.08:39
paranoidabhiI had asked this question but got no answers if possible can you guys have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-0408:39
cfhowlettparanoidabhi, and your specs are???08:40
cfhowlettah, never mind08:40
DatBus 003 Device 003: ID 0cf3:3005 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR3011 Bluetooth so i would search for atheros?08:40
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YankDownUnderparanoidabhi: Are you booting to the login screen, or automatic login?08:43
paranoidabhiYankDownUnder, automatic login08:47
paranoidabhicfhowlett, Please check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-04#comment1197419_79516908:48
cfhowlettparanoidabhi, I did indeed see that.  sorry, can't add anything useful.08:49
YankDownUnderparanoidabhi: As a test, why not turn off the automatic login, and as well, create a brand new user -> reboot so that it goes to the "display manager" - the login screen -> that will tell you how fast the SYSTEM boots...and then, time the login of the new account, and time the account you already use. You may find that it's actually KDE/Plasma that takes a while to load itself - as opposed to the system...hmm...08:49
YankDownUnderparanoidabhi: And I shall validate this, mate - I run KDE/Plasma - and it's a slow load - as opposed to other window managers/desktops...so, you'd not be alone in that bit...08:50
paranoidabhiYankDownUnder, by slow, what time are you looking at?08:51
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YankDownUnderparanoidabhi: My actual "workstation" - this one - that I'm typing on - takes approximately 9 seconds to boot to the login screen. KDE/Plasma, however, takes at least 20 seconds or longer to get to the desktop...08:51
tgm4883paranoidabhi: laptop?08:51
paranoidabhiYankDownUnder, I tried that the kde part takes 1:30 min itself and ubuntu takes 1 min08:52
paranoidabhitgm4883, yes08:52
YankDownUnderparanoidabhi: THAT is a bit on the "strange" side...what is the actual speed of the HDD you've got?08:52
tgm4883paranoidabhi: out of curiosity, what happens if you plug an ethernet cable in and boot08:53
MonkeyDustparanoidabhi  here too, userspace takes about 1 min, so it's kinda normal, i guess08:54
paranoidabhiYankDownUnder,  yes it is  5400 rpm08:54
YankDownUnderparanoidabhi: Thought so...08:54
paranoidabhiYankDownUnder, is that less?08:54
paranoidabhitgm4883, interesting, why do say that?08:54
tgm4883paranoidabhi: because I see lots of time associated with network manager08:54
YankDownUnderparanoidabhi: My missus had a 5400rpm drive - changed it to a 7200rpm drive - things were vastly different after that - as well, I tweaked the drive settings with hdparm and ureadahead08:55
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varaindemiancfhowlett: where do I execute i3-xfce install?09:01
ducassevaraindemian: ask the guy who wrote it.09:02
varaindemianducasse: cfhowlett said that I should see intruction 13..09:02
varaindemianducasse: Any clue where is that?09:03
YankDownUndervaraindemian: What exactly are you trying to accomplish? What IS i3-xfce...?09:03
paranoidabhitgm4883, This is a bug(https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104351) I facing right now. Do you think it is connected to boot09:04
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 104351 in Network "r8169: "rtl_counters_cond == 1 (loop: 1000, delay: 10)." spam" [Normal,New]09:04
varaindemianYankDownUnder: I installed this package https://github.com/aacebedo/i3-xfce and now I don't know how to continue https://paste.ubuntu.com/18874239/09:04
ducassevaraindemian: he probably meant "read the instructions, then follow them". random github projects are not supported here, but by their authors.09:05
MonkeyDustvaraindemian  your lines are hard to read and follow, because you only use links to be opened ... type full sentences09:06
YankDownUndervaraindemian: Let me get this straight - you installed a program directly from github...and now you want to "run" it, but apparently you've not actually read much up on the program that you just installed, and you wish for someone else to tell you how to run this program, correct?09:06
varaindemianYankDownUnder: Afet pip3 install i3-xfce, I don't know where that thing is isntalled09:07
paranoidabhiYankDownUnder, I also use ureadahead, but it hasn't made much difference. Can you illustrate on the hdparm settings if possible.09:08
YankDownUndervaraindemian: I suppose simply put, you've installed a program that you've not really read much about. let alone the documentation on it (and it would appear to be something for XFCe, not Ubuntu), and you're seeking support - right...so, have you considered reading through the "wiki" on the github site for this project? Or the manual?09:08
YankDownUnderparanoidabhi: yeah, if the drive is slow-AS, ain't much going to help, really...unless you want to use a 32-bit version of the OS - or just an older kernel/version/distro - you MIGHT be able to tweak a bit with hdparm (if it's not installed already)09:09
YankDownUnderparanoidabhi: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Tune-Your-Hard-Disk-with-hdparm09:10
YankDownUnderRight. Pizza and sushi time. Cheerio.09:11
varaindemianYankDownUnder: manual?09:11
ducassevaraindemian: read the instructions on the github page09:12
varaindemianYankDownUnder: Also, it should work on Ubuntu09:12
thinkyi was trying to install opera on ubuntu 16.0409:12
thinkywith this website guide :09:12
thinkybut it faced some error09:13
MonkeyDust!find opera09:13
ubottuFound: geany-plugin-lineoperations, libghc-operational-dev, libghc-operational-doc, libghc-operational-prof, phpunit-resource-operations, python-pyoperators, python3-pyoperators, W:, W:, W: (and 23 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=opera&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all09:13
varaindemianducasse: I tried i3-xfce install and it says i3-xfce: command not found09:13
ducassevaraindemian: you are not listening - we don't support it.09:13
MonkeyDustvaraindemian  this channel can do nothing for you09:14
thinkywhen i do sudo apt update; apt full-upgrade it is giving this error :09:14
salmanHello! I have been looking for installing ap-hotspot on my ubuntu mate but all my attempts have been in vain so far... When I add a PPA, I get this error message: Unable to locate package ap-hotspot09:14
salman.... Earlier I was using linux mate older version and it was working fine there... Could anyone please help me?09:14
thinkywhat can i do to fix errors and warnings showing here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/18876008/ ?09:16
Dathrmm i lost some of my scripts that did some things for my asus hopefully i remember how to put them back09:16
thinkyplease help about the errors09:17
tgm4883thinky: did you run that with sudo?09:17
tgm4883salman: what PPA, and what is the output of "lsb_release -a"09:18
thinkyyes tgm488309:18
thinkyi am newbie about ubuntu09:18
tgm4883thinky: wait a few minutes and try again09:18
thinkytgm4883: did u check the paste i pasted ?09:18
thinkywarnings and error ?09:19
tgm4883thinky: the one that asked "are you root"?09:19
thinkyi can see opera icon installed but it doesnt work09:19
thinkyyes tgm488309:19
tgm4883thinky: It's far too late for this09:19
OerHeks"/etc/apt/sources.list:5 and /etc/apt/sources.list:19" strange list numbers09:19
thinkytgm4883: what do u suggest me to do now?09:19
tgm4883OerHeks: those are fine09:20
tgm4883I mean, they should probably be cleaned up, but those are line numbers09:20
salmanI have been trying to add the following PPA:nilarimogard/webupd809:20
salmanHere is the output of the command "lsb_release -a"09:20
salmanNo LSB modules are available.09:20
salmanDistributor ID:Ubuntu09:20
salmanDescription:Ubuntu 16.04 LTS09:20
vaibhavmulejoin /django09:21
thinkysudo dpkg -i opera-stable_36.0.2130.32_i386.deb  this command returned with error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/18876254/09:21
vaibhavmulejoin #django09:21
thinkythen i made this command : sudo dpkg -i --force-depends *.deb  and sudo apt-get install -f09:21
paranoidabhiIt is possible to use ssd as well hdd on a laptop.09:22
tortibI'm using vst-bridge and whenever I start up bigwig and scan the plugins wine shows a window that says that the vst-bridge-host-64.exe crashed09:22
tgm4883salman: that package doesn't exist for 16.0409:22
salmanThanks for the information. Is there any alternate program for creating a hotspot on my machine?09:23
thinky" sudo apt-get install -f  " this command is returning with warning " WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed. This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!   apt 0 upgraded, 77 newly installed, 5 to remove and 2 not upgraded. Need to get 13.6 MB of archives. After this operation, 44.3 MB of additional disk space will be used. You are about to do something potentially harmful. To continue type i09:24
OerHeksclear error: You are about to do something potentially harmful09:25
thinkyi wish i could clear OerHeks :S09:26
thinkyi dont know what to do09:26
OerHeksyour first error says missing apt-transport-https, install that first?09:26
thinkyhow to install ?09:27
thinkysudo apt-get install apt-transport-https  ?09:27
kubancI have made some changes in ufw. Do I need to restart the ufw so that changes could make some effect=?09:28
OerHeksthinky, that should work09:28
thinkyi did but still same09:29
thinkywhat do all these warnings mean  here :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/18876642/   ?09:30
youxinwhat is labavcodec means?09:31
OerHeksthinky, double entries somehowe, i386 and amd6409:33
thinkyhow can i fix that?09:33
youxinwhy I can't play video in Ubuntu ? It shows to install pulgins and when I try to install it shows libvacodec error09:34
Ben64youxin: try using mpv or mplayer2 or mplayer or smplayer09:35
pactoswelcome junky09:35
youxinI tried to install the those media players like vlc, mplayer2 but unfortunately those players can't be download09:37
OerHeksthinky, how do those get there? did you add archtecture i386 or something?09:37
OerHeksor manual?09:37
Ben64youxin: why not09:38
paranoidabhihave any of you used mSATA SSD ? I can't a good tutorial for ubuntu, how hard is it to do a running ubuntu hdd laptop?09:38
thinkyno as i remember09:38
Ben64paranoidabhi: no idea what you mean by "to do a running ubuntu hdd laptop" but you can install to ssd like any other drive in ubuntu and it'll work09:39
stavros_pamfilaHello, is this possible on ubuntu ? (and flavors, kubuntu, xubuntu, mate) http://www.nurgo-software.com/images/AquaSnap/GroupSize.gif09:39
thinkynow i did something : Reset your repositories like this  sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list sudo software-properties-gtk Pick your options Save09:39
thinkylike explained here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/760746/how-to-fix-error-w-target-packages-main-binary-amd64-packages-is-configured-m09:39
youxinBen64 : it shows me some error while downloading09:40
paranoidabhiBen64, I want to migrate the existing one to ssd and the use hdd also.09:40
Ben64youxin: what error...09:40
Ben64paranoidabhi: i'd recommend fresh install09:40
thinkyOerHeks: warnings are gone but just error is there after i tried installing opera : http://paste.ubuntu.com/18877134/09:40
thinkyhow can i remove it totally and install it properly ?09:41
youxinAbout package dependecies :09:41
youxinThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  vlc: Depends: vlc-nox (= 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.2) but 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.2 is to be installed      Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15) but 2.19-0ubuntu6.9 is to be installed      Depends: libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1) but 2.5.2-1ubuntu2.5 is to be installed      Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but 1:4.9.3-0ubuntu4 is to be installed      Depends: libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.0) but 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubu09:41
Ben64youxin: i didn't say vlc...09:41
OerHeksthinky, 2nd part 'apt full-upgrade' need sudo too09:42
thinkyOerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18877257/09:43
youxinBen64: It shows the same package dependecies error09:43
youxinThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  mplayer2: Depends: libavcodec-extra-54 (>= 6:9.11) but 6:9.18-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 is to be installed           Depends: libavformat54 (>= 6:9.1-1) but 6:9.18-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 is to be installed           Depends: libavresample1 (>= 6:9.1-1) but 6:9.18-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 is to be installed           Depends: libavutil52 (>= 6:9.1-1) but 6:9.18-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 is to be installed           De09:43
ducasseyouxin: use a pastebin, please09:44
OerHeksthe error is clear and gives a clue ..09:44
thinkyOerHeks: i tried " sudo apt-get install -f "09:44
thinkybut no luck09:44
OerHekswhy installing 32 bit opera when you have a 64 bit system09:45
thinkyu are right09:45
thinkyhow can i clear everything related opera ?09:45
OerHeksnot sure ppa-purge would work with ts 3rd party ppa09:47
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html09:47
thinkyi dont know what is repository for opera :S09:48
kubancI made some changes in before.rules for ufw, do so I need to restart ufw so that changes can be applyed?09:50
thinkydone OerHeks09:51
thinkyremoved opera thx god09:51
ducassekubanc: 'ufw reload' according to the man page..09:51
* quizzy85 nOOb IRC09:51
jonkyI remember reading a while back that, due to some bug, the graphics drivers sources fglrx and fglrx-updates were the same. is that still true?09:55
thinkyOerHeks: installed opera 64bit09:59
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quizzy85hello su10:21
sudoHow do I broadcast my hostname in LAN ?10:21
sudoI made a custom server (minimal) and now I want the name of my machine to be broadcasted for those who run as client.10:24
akiksudo: i think that's what avahi does10:26
sudoElaborate a little for it please ?10:26
ducassesudo: elaborate what you want to do10:27
akikdns service discovery (dns-sd)10:27
sudotrying to achieve something like in ShareIt app in android10:29
sudoBtw at client side how would they listen to broadcasted name ?10:31
sudoany method call for it ?10:31
sudobraodcasted name(s)10:32
Nishikino-Makihey i install the no desktop ver ubuntu and i install xubuntu-desktop HDMI screen it's seem normal but in VNC is only show me a Termwindow10:33
Nishikino-Makiis vnc not Auto Configuration?10:33
Nishikino-Makialso vnc4server is working but x11vnc is not10:35
DavtiWow, hello!10:41
DavtiCan access the terminal of my created container in ubuntu touch|10:42
mcfdez87Hello. I installed Virtual Box on my ubuntu for put another ubuntu dsitro inside the guest. To have an internet connection in the guest I select bridge adapter in VBox configuration, but the guest ubuntu can't connect. If I make a "ifconfig" on the guest I see that there is not IP assigned. Any suggestion please?10:43
sudomcfdez87, which adapter type (wlan0 | eth0) did you choose ?10:44
mcfdez87sudo, wlan010:46
sudoAre you sure wireless is active on host machine ?10:47
mcfdez87sudo, yes in host machine works fine10:47
sudoDoes ifconfig shows adapter ?10:48
sudofor bridge10:49
mcfdez87sudo, yes the command show lo and enp03. I think that enp0s3 is the "virtual" adapter10:50
mcfdez87but there is no IP address assigned to this adapter10:50
ducassemcfdez87: you will either need to assign a static address or request one via dhcp10:51
mcfdez87ducasse, where need to do this,throught the guest ubuntu (in network maneger)?10:52
MonkeyDustmcfdez87  try NAT instead of bridged, for testing purposes10:52
ducassemcfdez87: if you are using network manager, yes.10:52
mcfdez87MonkeyDust, NAT works fine10:53
sudoducasse, dhcp works by default in Virtualbox if you connect by bridge !10:53
sudomcfdez87, check your settings in network for that machine and verify if everything proper.10:56
mcfdez87sudo, in the guest?10:56
sudovirtualbox setting10:57
mcfdez87ducasse, I launched (in guest) dhclient enp0s3 to request a new address, but it stills with this message a lot of time: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s3 to port 6710:58
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mcfdez87sudo, in the settigs fo the machine I have all correct. One question, I see a dropdown in "Adapter type" and I see some options. How I know what need to select?11:00
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MuftwareI have just installed ubuntu 16.04, but there is some problem with software centre. Its showing only the installed softwares and i m not able to install any other software11:02
Guest943Hi folks, external monitor not working after 16.04 upgrade. Thoughts?11:02
MonkeyDustGuest943  start with the command 'xrandr', in a terminal11:03
Guest943done, shall I paste the output?11:04
sudomcfdez87, that shows different network adapter hardwares in your system !11:04
Guest943I'm guessing this is the problem? 'HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)'11:04
sudomcfdez87, what options in short available to you11:05
mcfdez87sudo, ducasse throught the network manager of the guest ubuntu I seeted a manual IP in the DHClient tab and now when I do ifconfig I see that the adapter has an IP and the icon shows connected, but I not have internet connection. Maybe because the router not assigned the connection?11:06
mcfdez87sudo, I will try with all options11:07
sudomcfdez87, try pinging the host from virtualmachine11:10
sudo"ping hostmachine_addr"11:10
sudoand from hostmachine to virtualbox address too !11:12
sudo*virtual machine address"11:12
Guest943fixed, dodgy adapter!11:13
flrnshey guys. got some problems with an sdxc card. my phone (where it was) suddenly said it had a damaged filesystem. after I made a backup of the most important stuff, I tried reformating the card (via android) - didn't work.11:14
sudoflrns, only ubuntu related issues !11:15
flrnsokay, sorry. got a hint where I can ask my question though?11:16
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ducasseflrns: you can try to format it from ubuntu, but be aware that most variants of mkfs just does a quick format, not a full one.11:17
flrnsyeah i tried, nothing worked, ducasse. was going to describe more details and what I've done, but since sudo reminded me to not talk about non-ubuntu-issues here, I rather won't11:19
MonkeyDust!phone | flrns11:20
ubottuflrns: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch11:20
flrnsMonkeyDust: it's not a Ubuntu Phone. it's just some general issue with a damaged fat-filesystem11:21
ducasseflrns: you could try to run 'mkfs.fat -c ...' to check for bad blocks. that's the only suggestion i've got, though, i would just discard it if has started giving problems.11:22
flrnsducasse: thanks. I've already tried several checks (testdisk, dosfsck, fsck), but I will try. thanks again.11:25
Guest25043my computer run ubuntu? 2.2G cpu 2G memory?11:26
ducasseGuest25043: xubuntu or lubuntu should be fine, maybe mate, 2g ram might be a bit small for unity, kde or gnome.11:29
sudoCan somebody just iilustrate on how to use avahi-daemon to broadcast hostname ?11:30
ducassesudo: just install and start it, and it will broadcast services.11:31
sudostart it for a particular service given port ?11:32
sudo*on given11:32
ducassesudo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToZeroconf11:32
brainstoWhat is the difference between software rendering x and just x?11:41
brainstosoftware rendering cinnamon and cinnamon for instance11:41
brainstoat the login screen11:41
ducassebrainsto: software rendering is done by the cpu, not the gpu.11:41
brainstoI tried software rendeing and it is slower then ususal11:42
ducassebrainsto: eh, yes, because it is not hardware accellerated.11:43
brainstoducasse: I never knew there was something like gpu, I only know cpu11:43
ioriabrainsto, http://askubuntu.com/questions/393217/what-is-the-difference-between-cinnamon-and-cinnamon-software-rendering-when-c11:43
brainstomy computer shutdown unexpectedly11:50
brainstodid I miss any message meant for me11:50
Phenxis it really hit or miss with installing ubuntu>?11:55
Phenxfrom usb?11:55
Phenxoor am i just being impatient on getting astable iso in my usb11:55
sudohey zeroconf makes use of dns but for that would require a registration on dns on network manager machine. Any way I could just broadcast my name and address both so that client could connect through address (working without dns regitration)11:59
sudoOr if I can place some method call to get my hostname notified to central dns from ubuntu ?12:00
sudoeven temporary registry would be sufficient for me like in the case if that uses dchp !12:01
sudoso every time I would register at the connection to network !12:01
sudoIs there a channel for java ?12:03
ducassesudo: i'd guess ##java, ask alis.12:04
sudoNo, the channel is #java I think. But it says invite only. Isn't it possible to connect then ?12:08
sudoOr is there another channel for general people ?12:09
sudoI think this channel awakes when time is of midnight in my country12:13
ducassesudo: no, it's ##java - read the topic there.12:13
sudoI can't join "/join ##java" did nothing12:14
ducasse!alis | sudo12:14
ubottusudo: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http12:14
impidoes anyone here have a howto of how to connect to my ubuntu with vnc?12:15
impinothing i try wants to worl12:15
sudowhat vnc client do you use ?12:16
sudovnc client software I mean12:16
ducasseimpi: and which vnc server?12:18
impihello ducasse12:18
impii tried vcnserver, tightvnc server, all from howto's - some suggested that i set in the start up to use xfce12:18
impibut in short, i simply can't see my desktop, sometimes I can connect using ports from 5900 - 5905 but i never see the mouse curser move on the remote pc12:19
impiim trying to control my laptop that is driving my tv screen12:19
ducasseimpi: vnc4server and remmina is a combination that usually works for me, i suggest you try that.12:21
impilemme give it a go12:21
jpmhwhen I runa netstat I see tcp6 for ports 80 and 443 but I can connect using ipv4, other ports such as 993 are showing in both tcp and tcp6 - please explain12:22
MonkeyDustjpmh  maybe in ##networking12:37
Kinder-Pingvihi guys! I have too small question. Does ubuntu have community repository like AUR in arch linux?12:45
ducasse!ppa | Kinder-Pingvi12:45
ubottuKinder-Pingvi: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:45
Kinder-Pingvihmm.. thanks ! It's nice case. Earlier I always used only arch linux... tried ubuntu, very nice unity :)12:47
sudoHey, what was the exact command to register on a channel?12:50
sudoIt was something like /Nick...  ?12:51
sudojoined ##linux but can't speak.12:52
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode12:52
sudoIt says : Can't change nickname while banned on channel.12:55
MonkeyDustsudo  banned for no reason, i take it?12:56
sudoya, Did it seriously meant that ?12:56
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Andrea1971buonasera a tutti13:01
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:01
otsoaUnLocoDoes anyone have any idea why my torrent downloads all "pause" at 4.20MB for about a minute with increased cpu usage before resuming? It's so ridiculous I don't even know how to get any info about it13:10
otsoaUnLocoin transmission13:10
lyzeHey! Is there a way to sync everything from one ubuntu server to a clean installed different server?13:11
baizonotsoaUnLoco: try a different torrent client?13:11
lyzeSo that basically the new one runs like the old one? (both vservers)13:11
Gregor3000lyze: have you looked at clonezilla? otherwise rysnc is the software for file syncs.13:13
otsoaUnLocoI tried Deluge, it also does similar thing though at different threshold. And it only happens in Ubuntu13:14
lyzeGregor3000, can't use clonezilla since the new hard drive is smaller. Does rsync also work when the other system is different?13:14
Gregor3000otsoaUnLoco: aside form trying a different client you can also check the logs or monitor activities with top or htop commands to see what is causing the spike (is it the client itself or something else)13:15
otsoaUnLocoit is the client13:15
otsoaUnLocowhich log should i check?13:15
k00pahow can I reset / reinstall / fix ubuntu after installing new graphics card13:15
k00paI had nvidia proprietary drivers installed for gtx 670 and now with 1070 on the machine the system crashes under 30 seconds or so13:16
otsoaUnLocoremove drivers13:16
k00paand the local consoles are spammed with errors so I cant use those13:16
k00payeh, how13:16
otsoaUnLocosudo apt purge nvidia*13:16
k00pawell I hope that the ssh is enabled because the fuck can't stay up 30 seconds if I log in13:16
sudodid you called me otsoaUnLoco ?13:17
Gregor3000lyze: what do you mean system is different? different hardware? rsync or other sync software just syncs the software. smaller disk? make a smaller partition, then clone.13:18
lyzeGregor3000, yeah different hardware. So basically I can just clone "/" over to the other one?13:18
k00pahow to stop dmesg spam on the local terminal?13:19
Gregor3000k00pa: you can boot into text mode from GRUB13:19
Gregor3000no desktop13:19
k00pawell there goes the GUI mode13:19
otsoaUnLocok00pa have you tried using other kernel?13:20
otsoaUnLocoI've had similar issues with nvidia drivers13:20
k00pait ain't the nvidia drivers13:20
k00paor its that I have wrong ones installed because I changed my graphics card13:20
Gregor3000lyze: wll (ehm should) work if you didn't install any additional drivers, made kernel patches for specifi hardware etc.13:21
k00paand this piece of shit can't switch to a fallback driver that doesn't crash13:21
lyzeGregor3000, nope I didn't, nice!13:21
k00paokey, commandline, how do I install the latest nvidia drivers that work?13:21
otsoaUnLocosudo apt install nvidia-36113:21
k00pathank you13:21
otsoaUnLocoyou're welcome13:22
Gregor3000k00pa: just boot directly into text mode, remove the proprietary drivers and boot with opensource ones. you should be able to get to GUI (if not try nomodeset boot option) and then use the GUi to install new or latest nvidia drivers.13:22
k00padmesg spam stopped after the driver crashed or something13:22
k00paspoilers: the opensource ones crash also13:23
k00pasame issue13:23
Gregor3000otsoaUnLoco: just use a multi log viewer and see what is being logged at the time it happens. e.g. lnav13:25
Gregor3000k00pa: you need 367 driver.13:27
Gregor3000you may need to do a manual install.13:27
Gregor3000k00pa: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/104284/en-us13:27
Gregor3000Added support for the following GPUs:  GeForce GTX 1080,  GeForce GTX 107013:28
k00pablargh.. okey thanks13:28
k00paye the 361 crashed again13:28
Gregor3000yes, it doesn't support your card13:30
guest233223I am looking at a usb3 graphics card.13:34
guest233223Has anyone here tried one of those on linux?13:34
k00payou sure want to shoot yourself in the foot13:35
k00paGregor3000: well now I am getting some call trace's... I assume it failed to install it13:37
k00pa(happening while the install was going)13:37
Gregor3000k00pa: are you doing manual install? are the kernels and other dependencies satisfied?13:38
Gregor3000guest233223: why USB card?13:39
tar_ballI need to administrate my ubuntu installation remotely(on same network) is there any tool which will provide me GUI ?13:39
k00paGregor3000: no idea, I just ran the installer in the root recovery prompt13:39
k00palatest ubuntu and shit13:39
Gregor3000guest233223: you can probably get the whole PC cheaper than that :-)13:39
Wulftar_ball: would a fully automated install work for you?13:39
guest233223Gregor3000:  My laptop makes connecting a pci express card quite difficult.13:39
guest233223I don't even know if there is an available pci-express solder pad, even if I managed to open it.13:40
Gregor3000guest233223: so laptops card/chip  is not working?13:40
guest233223It is, but I want to use 2 monitors with it.13:41
tar_ballWulf : not installation but use it remotely , any other tool then ssh which will provide me gui13:41
Wulftar_ball: you can control the gui with rdp + vnc13:42
rypervenchetar_ball: Does your server use a GUI?13:42
pi___mpc stop13:42
Gregor3000guest233223   :-) : http://www.pcworld.com/article/2984716/laptop-computers/how-to-transform-your-laptop-into-a-gaming-powerhouse-with-an-external-graphics-card.html13:43
rypervenchetar_ball: Err, your Ubuntu installation that will be remote.13:43
rypervenchepi___: /quit13:43
Gregor3000guest233223: they have USb cards, not sure what their linux support is. they should be good enough for some office work13:43
tar_ballrypervenche: i want to install it on my raspberry pi and use it on my laptop sue to lack of screen on pi13:43
Gregor3000guest233223: otherwise usually laptiops usually have an external port.13:43
rypervenchetar_ball: Which OS will you be installing on the Pi?13:44
guest233223Gregor3000:  I have a single hdmi port.13:44
Gregor3000k00pa: nvidia added support for this chip only a few weeks ago.13:44
guest233223Why lenovo decided to go with hdmi instead of dp is beyond me.13:44
tar_ballrypervenche: raspbian debian based13:44
tar_ballWulf: can you tell me full name of this software13:45
k00pahow to kill x server13:45
Wulftar_ball: xrdp13:45
tar_ballrypervenche: https://www.raspbian.org/13:46
rypervenchetar_ball: Are you booting the Pi into GUI mode or not?13:46
Wulftar_ball: and x11vnc13:46
tar_ballrypervenche: it will boot into gui mote13:46
rypervenchetar_ball: Then you should use VNC. I personally use x11vnc as my server and remmina as my client.13:47
tar_ballrypervenche: x11vnc will be installed on server and remmina on client ?13:49
rypervenchetar_ball: Yes. You can run something like: x11vnc -display :0 -forever (for the server)13:50
poeticrpmok, reaching out to ubuntu land since I cant find the answer anywhere in debian land. Does anyone have ubuntu installed on a luks encrypted partition? Can someone tell me what they have in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules? Im trying to figure out how to generate an initramfs capable of handling the encrypted partition. On Arch one needs 'encrypt' in modules of /etc/mkinitcpio.conf. On debians wiki they mention "aes_i586', but im assuming thats for a 3213:50
poeticrpmbit install. I dont know if I should use 'aes_amd64', 'aes_x86_64', etc etc.13:50
BluesKaj_Hiyas all13:50
tar_ballrypervenche: will it work if i boot my server into console mode and use it on client?13:51
rypervenchetar_ball: In order to be able to use VNC, the server must have a GUI running on it. So if you only boot into console mode, there will be no GUI running.13:52
tar_ballrypervenche: thanks will reach out again if needed help13:53
LJHSLDJHSDLJHI got sick and tired of ubuntu endless problems so I downloaded Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-24-1.2.iso then I cut/paste it on external hdd.14:03
LJHSLDJHSDLJHsomehow the process was interrupted and it rendered the iso file no longer useful14:03
LJHSLDJHSDLJHI'm now wondering about the cut paste mechanism and how safe the data is14:04
LJHSLDJHSDLJHI suposed the original source file should remain intact until the copy on target device is verfied14:04
MonkeyDustLJHSLDJHSDLJH  how is your question ubuntu related14:05
k00paGregor3000: thanks man, feels like it started to work now14:07
LJHSLDJHSDLJHMonkeyDust: you tell me when you know that I'm already doing all the mentioned above stuff using ubuntu 16.0414:07
LJHSLDJHSDLJHone more nice stuff I just found now ... the history is not listing the wget command I used to spend all day yesterday downloading this fedora iso!14:08
poeticrpmLJHSLDJHSDLJH, try using cp or rsync to copy the file over14:09
MonkeyDusti was thinking the same: rsync14:09
poeticrpmLJHSLDJHSDLJH, but wait- are you trying to boot from the external drive or just copy the ISO there?14:09
poeticrpmif just copying it over, rsync is what id use. Its painless14:09
LJHSLDJHSDLJHpoeticrpm: that is a good advice thanks ... why file manager or linux kernel or whatever thing controlling the cut paste process is not implementating the same safety in rsync?14:10
LJHSLDJHSDLJHthat is my question14:10
LJHSLDJHSDLJHpoeticrpm: I (was) just cutting/pasting on external hdd14:10
LJHSLDJHSDLJHnow I will have to REdownload the iso file14:11
MonkeyDustLJHSLDJHSDLJH  next time, copy/paste, not cut/paste, so at least you keep the original14:11
poeticrpmLJHSLDJHSDLJH, im just going to say this: since starting ubuntu 6.10 edgy eft, I have never had an errant copy from a linux file-manager. This isnt a linux problem. Maybe your install iso got corrupted in download or its a hardware issue, or- just like any OS can have happen- something went really crazy wild wrong14:11
poeticrpmI bet the chances of that happening again are worse than winning the lottery14:12
poeticrpmLJHSLDJHSDLJH, and Ive tried prolly 40 distros in my day some right on the bleeding edge14:12
LJHSLDJHSDLJHMonkeyDust: I'm not sure why I didn't think of it! I'm really stupid :)14:13
MonkeyDustLJHSLDJHSDLJH  you're not, but learning new things can be frustrating14:13
poeticrpmMonkeyDust, it could have been that the download itself was corrupted.14:14
Phenxwho has a link that has the good instructions for install ubuntu>14:14
poeticrpmso copy/paste wouldnt have helped14:14
LJHSLDJHSDLJHpoeticrpm: it was hdd cable issue, but ubuntu should be to prevent such data loss14:14
Phenxwith ISO to USB flash install method?14:14
LJHSLDJHSDLJHthe original file should remain intact until the paste process is completed (successfully)14:14
MonkeyDustPhenx  thus: download .iso - put .isoon usb/dvd - boot from usb/dvd - follow instructions14:14
LJHSLDJHSDLJHwhich is not the case (currently)14:14
PhenxMonkeyDust: whats that?14:15
poeticrpmLJHSLDJHSDLJH, i suppose thats a problem :D14:15
MonkeyDustPhenx  that's how you install ubuntu14:15
poeticrpmI think the general assumption is that once data problems starts happening---> have a backup14:15
poeticrpmbecause no software can completely predict hardware failures14:16
poeticrpmim sure windows might have some fallback, but typically ive seen windows fail much harder with hardware problems14:16
poeticrpmso its sort of a tossup14:16
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: it _will_ work if you copy+paste+delete original instead of cut+paste.14:16
Phenxu guys sure?14:17
LJHSLDJHSDLJHpoeticrpm: no one is asking for HW failure predection, it happened during the trasfer process, thus it's reality for the pasting algorithm14:17
Phenxive never ran into as many issues with installing windows EVER14:17
Phenxidk maybe its my method14:17
LJHSLDJHSDLJHducasse: that is true but it's not what was intending to do .. I wanted to cut/paste14:18
MonkeyDustPhenx  start from the beginning, what brings you here14:18
PhenxMonkeyDust: im making a company with a few friends. our first computer came in14:18
LJHSLDJHSDLJHso I suppose the ubuntu people should provide a decent cut/paste procedure or remove it and keep it you mentioned copy/paste/dalete14:18
Phenxwe have no windows OS14:18
Phenxso i decide to install Ubuntu14:19
Phenxi am .net mainly14:19
poeticrpmPhenx, it depends. I just recently installed windows 7 on this laptop from scratch. My computer didnt come with a windows 7 driver cd. NIGHTMARE to get all the hardware working. In fact, impossible without a linux distro to at least get my wireless or ethernet drivers.14:19
Phenxbut trying to get into understanding linux14:19
Phenxbecause i am the CTO14:19
Phenxi need to start us off right14:19
poeticrpmPhenx, OTOH, with a driver disk, windows is about as easy as ubuntu (almost).14:19
MonkeyDust!manual | Phenx hope this is useful14:20
ubottuPhenx hope this is useful: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/14:20
Phenxpoeticrpm: welll yea that does make sense for sure14:20
LJHSLDJHSDLJHhehehe Fedora is not doing the linux experience any less stupid than ubuntu14:21
Phenxwell i have 3 machines now basically14:21
poeticrpmLJHSLDJHSDLJH, i suppose that is an issue that could be raised- not sure the neckbeards would 'fix' it though. Still, this isnt really a linux problem. Its more like a problem of the DE that you used to do the cut/paste14:21
MonkeyDustPhenx  this is to encourage you : http://insights.ubuntu.com/category/case-studies?topic=desktop14:22
Phenx1 work, 1 home (also work), 1 for my startup14:22
LJHSLDJHSDLJHthey fail to put the hash of their iso file in an obvious place on the website .. I have to search every corner to get the hash file14:22
Phenxal microsoft14:22
poeticrpmLJHSLDJHSDLJH, try xubuntu14:22
Phenxbut i want to get a linux server going14:22
Phenxi made my flash drive with ubuntu 16.0414:22
LJHSLDJHSDLJHpoeticrpm: do you think it's a file manager problem?14:22
Phenxso i can start working out some kinks and creating our API14:22
LJHSLDJHSDLJHwill try to reproduce the same error while cutting/pasting from terminal14:23
poeticrpmLJHSLDJHSDLJH, as I havent looked into the code, I cant say for sure. I dont want to try to make excuses, but I *think*- that is it seems to me- it would HAVE to be the file managers issue14:23
Phenxfor some reason im thinking using linux would be a good thing but our app will be in asp.net MVC14:23
Phenxidk i just am exploring14:23
poeticrpmPhenx, best server is debian stable IMO. I like xubuntu as a desktop OS :D14:24
Phenxplease make arguments for installing and dedicating one of our machines to linux/ubuntu/someflavor...14:24
MonkeyDustPhenx  safety/speed/cost14:25
poeticrpmPhenx, of course right now im installing debian from within arch using debootstrap et all :P xubuntu I have as a backup currently14:25
PhenxLike what about configuration? Will there be probs? I'll be back in a min14:26
Phenxsmoking cig14:26
poeticrpmPhenx, the linux community isnt really the type to try and "win over the customer." Its here if you decide the choice is right for you14:26
ducassePhenx: what you install is _your_ decision, we're not going to convince you.14:26
a_patCan someone help me to install Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 14.04.4 ? I've installed 367 and 361 but when I boot up and there is the login screen I listen only the login sound, all screen is black14:28
BluesKaj_a_pat, which nvidia gpu?14:31
a_patBluesKaj_: Gt740m14:31
BluesKaj_is this a hybrid gpu system with intel and nvidia?14:32
baizonBluesKaj_: yep, most lenovo laptops14:32
Phenxducasse: i just want to know what are the benefits of getting into linux14:32
a_patBluesKaj_: yes I have intel DD4000 and the other gt740m14:32
Phenxi have worked on ubuntu at work14:33
BluesKaj_not mine baizon14:33
baizonBluesKaj_: ups, sorry didnt know the context14:33
Phenxbut only briefly14:33
a_patBluesKaj_: HD4000*14:33
Phenxthen they got me doing .net stuff c# for the last 6 months14:33
Phenxand thats what they want me to do14:33
ducassePhenx: that's not really a support question, which is what we do here. ask in ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic14:33
Phenxi am starting a company with some friends14:34
Phenxducasse: linux seems dead14:34
Phenxi hear you though14:35
BluesKaj_Phenx, which linux OSs are recommended by "they"?14:35
ducassePhenx: ##linux - with two hash marks. it's not dead.14:35
PhenxBluesKaj_: we were on ubuntu at my current job a while back14:35
monkey_masterOh, I thought you were saying linux the OS was dead.14:36
Phenxbut we all switched to MS as thats who we are doing most of our integration with14:36
BluesKaj_Phenx, then start with what you know14:36
monkey_masterLike someone killed the penguin.14:36
Phenxmonkey_master: hell na lol14:40
MonkeyDustPhenx  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows14:40
Phenxwell my ubuntu install is fucked14:41
Phenxits not doing anything14:41
Phenxstuck at install (as supervisor)14:41
LJHSLDJHSDLJHwell, now I'm afraid that the problem is bigger than just losing a single iso file, as the entire external hdd start showing data transfer problems. e.g. the distination folder of which the cut/paste process was interrupted, seems to have lost all other iso files in it14:41
LJHSLDJHSDLJHI get Input/output error14:42
LJHSLDJHSDLJHsame error even when I tried from terminal14:42
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: check dmesg.14:43
LJHSLDJHSDLJHducasse: what should I do exactly with dmesg?14:43
LJHSLDJHSDLJH[63022.606423] sd 36:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found14:44
LJHSLDJHSDLJH[63022.606429] sd 36:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through14:44
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: look for errors.14:44
LJHSLDJHSDLJHducasse: there is bunch of them as shown above, but what does that mean and how it should be fixed?14:45
LJHSLDJHSDLJHor even better how can I tell myself what that means and how to fix it14:45
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: none of those two messages are errors.14:45
Phenxcan i access terminal and do things while the ubuntu installer is running?14:47
Phenxi think its stuck14:47
Phenxim right next to our dev machine trying to install it14:47
monkey_masterCould it be a dying hard drive?14:47
LJHSLDJHSDLJHducasse: these are all the error from dmesg14:48
LJHSLDJHSDLJH[60434.806999] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 97677209614:48
LJHSLDJHSDLJH[60434.807028] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 97677218414:48
LJHSLDJHSDLJH[60434.807084] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 122096512, async page read14:48
LJHSLDJHSDLJH[60440.219314] usb 2-1.2: device not accepting address 14, error -7114:48
LJHSLDJHSDLJH[60446.099900] usb 2-1.2: device not accepting address 23, error -7114:48
MonkeyDustLJHSLDJHSDLJH  use a pastebin for lengthy pastes ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14:49
jim__UUggggaa!!  what is this with everyone using this "thing" called "nano"!  doesn't anybody us the basic "vi" editor any more?14:51
yeatsPhenx: you should be able to do Alt-F key for the different TTYs - if you're installing with the ncurses/text installer, log messages will be on tty414:52
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: those look like they might be problems communicating with the controller in the external drive.14:53
yeatsjim__: nano is configured to be the default text editor on most distros nowadays14:53
Phenxyeats:  hmm altf not working14:54
yeatsPhenx: are you in the GUI installer?14:54
Phenxppl at other chatroom making fun of me for fucking up ubuntu install14:54
ducassePhenx: ctrl+alt+f1 to f614:54
Phenxyeats: yea its been going for an hour and half stuck on a screen14:54
LJHSLDJHSDLJHducasse: are there any previous cases of people committing suicide because of data loss?14:54
Phenxi have given it enough time14:54
Phenxi think i failed14:54
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: many, i'm sure. that's why we have backups. ;)14:55
Phenxctrl+alt+f1 to f6 WORKED14:55
yeatsPhenx: ok - do *Ctrl*-Alt-F1 through F6 (as ducasse suggests) - Ctrl-Alt-F7 takes you back to the GUI14:55
LJHSLDJHSDLJHducasse: I think have to start believing in RAID14:55
jim__I mean "vi" and "unix" of any kind is synonymous with each other, its almost sacrilegious to think of "unix" with out "vi".... from now on I shall refer to "nano" as the "unholy editor".  ;^}14:55
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: raid is not a backup :)14:55
Phenxyeats: im on a weird command line14:56
LJHSLDJHSDLJHis it mirroring?14:56
Phenxnothing is visible14:56
Phenxall i can do is type leter14:56
narmesесть кто14:56
latitudeanyone have trouble with wifi drop outs with ubuntu 16.0414:56
Phenxhelp doesnt do anything14:56
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: raid gives you redundancy, but it doesn't protect you from accidental deletions, for example.14:56
yeatsPhenx: you're in BusyBox, which is basically a stripped down version of bash14:57
Phenxyeats: what can i do?14:57
narmesребят подскажите как настраивается общий доступ с виндой14:57
yeats!ru | narmes14:57
ubottunarmes: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:57
Phenxi want to get back to GUI, wipe clean everything ive done14:57
Phenxthen do fresh install14:57
yeatsPhenx: Ctrl-Alt-F714:57
Phenxyeats: not wokring14:57
LJHSLDJHSDLJHducasse: Then are you aware of any charity organization that may donate free backup tapes? lol14:58
LJHSLDJHSDLJHtoo cheap to invest in those14:58
yeatsPhenx: you should be able to do 'sudo shutdown -r now' which will kill everything running and reboot14:58
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: you can use a disk for backup, that's what most people do.14:59
yeatsLJHSLDJHSDLJH: you get what you pay for :-)14:59
Phenxnot working14:59
Phenxi think my iso on the flash might be sucky14:59
Phenxim going to redo it14:59
Phenxi guess14:59
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: my important data is on a zfs mirror, backed up to a separate drive on a remote host.15:00
yeatsPhenx: if it's that frozen, you may have to do a hard power off (hold power button for 5 seconds)15:00
Phenxyeats: ahh15:00
Phenxis there nowhere to get cracked versions of windows 10?15:01
LJHSLDJHSDLJHPhenx: sometimes kick the crap of the computer case so the problems15:01
yeatsPhenx: wrong channel15:01
PhenxLJHSLDJHSDLJH: my case is new though15:01
Phenxnot an option15:01
LJHSLDJHSDLJHducasse: I think it could be mounting RO problem with this usb hdd15:01
LJHSLDJHSDLJHPhenx: my hdd is new too, but that doesn't prevent it from acting weird15:02
PhenxLJHSLDJHSDLJH:  i used the recommended resource15:02
ducasseLJHSLDJHSDLJH: the file system might be corrupted, see if fsck can fix it.15:02
Phenxto make my Flash ISO15:02
Phenxim restarting15:03
Phenxi have brand new computer15:03
Phenxshould i make my boot mode UEFI only?15:04
Phenxin bios?15:04
jim__phenx:  the best thing I like about UEFI is that I no longer have to use the disk layout of 3-primary partitions with an "extended" partition, that has all gone away.15:10
jim__happy day15:10
Zacharee1GPT is the best for sure15:10
PhenxZacharee1: why u say that?15:12
jim__Phenx: GPT allows for something like 126 partitions of a disk, no primary or extended junk involved15:15
Phenxjim__: do you know hwat the default is for ubuntu install?15:15
jim__depends on if you choose BIOS or UEFI15:15
Phenxjim__: because im assuming if you do GPT that means you are doing custom partitions?15:15
Phenxwelll the "something else" option15:16
jim__BIOS supports "MBR" and UEFI supports GPT15:17
ufc222hey can someone help me put ubuntu on a chromebook15:17
ufc222I was following a tutorial but when i try to launch it i get an error no screens found15:17
Phenxufc222: chromebook?15:17
Phenxnver used one idk15:17
Phenxsooo let me get this straight15:18
ufc222\I was following that guide15:18
Phenxwhen u install ubuntu15:18
Phenxu can configure EVERYTHING?15:18
Phenxlike make ur own install scripts?15:18
Phenxand put them inside/alongside and/or run parrallel to the install?15:18
Phenxi want to see the machine doing tings when im installing15:18
Phenxthis mofo15:19
jim__take a look at the differences of MBR vs GPT,  a nice primer is at this site "http://www.howtogeek.com/193669/whats-the-difference-between-gpt-and-mbr-when-partitioning-a-drive/"15:20
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Phenxstuck on intro to install15:23
jim__Phenx: Windows can only boot from GPT on UEFI-based computers running 64-bit versions of Windows 10, 8.1, 8, 7, Vista, and corresponding server versions. All versions of Windows 10, 8.1, 8, 7, and Vista can read GPT drives and use them for data — they just can’t boot from them without UEFI.  Other modern operating systems can also use GPT. Linux has built-in support for GPT. Apple’s Intel Macs no longer use Apple’s APT (Apple Partit15:25
jim__ion Table) scheme and use GPT instead.15:25
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ufc222can someone help please15:26
crafty1ufc222: So how far did you get in the tutorial (assuming its accurate).  Are you on the step sudo startunity?15:34
ufc222and thats when i get the error no screen found15:34
Phenxi just realized i got hte 64 version15:36
Phenxinstead of the 32 bit-PC15:36
Phenxdidnt read the instrucitions lol15:36
crafty1ufc222: This bug may be relevant.  The fix was to downgrade chromeOS and reinstall https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton/issues/197815:36
Phenxno wonder it doesnt like my computer15:36
irinix*sigh* with all the advanced things that linux gets oh so right,15:38
irinixwhy can't it get basic things like wireless networking?15:38
Phenxirinix: linux is good at networking though i thouhgt15:38
Phenxthat is one of the reasons i want to use15:38
Phenxor maybe its just wireless that suffers?15:39
irinixPhenx, ime wired networking is solid as gold15:39
irinixbut wireless is always a turkeyshoot15:39
akikirinix: it's because of wireless manufacturers don't care about linux15:39
Phenxirinix: well idk if thats ok depending on the situation15:40
Phenxbut yea that kinda blows15:40
irinixakik, sorry, I'm just griping because15:40
crafty1The Atheros chipset is one of the only chipsets with FOSS drivers15:40
irinixmy wifi went from working great, to totally crapping out on me the other day15:40
akikirinix: i undeerstand. it was the same with my new acer laptop. but it only needed the firmware.bin file to make it work15:40
irinixcrafty1, yeah, Atheros has been good to us since the beginning15:41
crafty1Doesn't Ubuntu support most wireless chipets by using the non-free drivers if necessary?15:41
akikirinix: ok maybe a different situation than yours. wifi has been working good ever since i got it working15:41
crafty1My current card isnt Atheros and works fine :/15:42
irinix*sigh* when I'm elected queen b**** of the universe, my first edict will be to mandate foss15:42
irinixcrafty1, yeah, the intel drivers aren't there.  I downloaded the latest firmware from intel when I did the install etc etc., and it had been working great15:42
irinixuntil suddenly, it decided not too15:42
irinixand for no reason that I can see.  (No added software etc etc)15:43
irinixAnd it works fine from windows15:43
jim__Phenx:  earlier you stated that you had a brand new computer.... but that new computer has a 32-bit CPU??  This must be a new used computer.15:44
Phenxjim__: it is new15:44
jim__Interesting, I didn't think you could buy a new 32-bit CPU any more.15:45
Phenxits 64 bit15:46
Phenxbut the dl i got confused on15:46
Phenxi gave up and went back to my asp project15:46
Phenxi dont want to read15:46
Phenxtoo drunk15:47
akikPhenx: you gave up because the download was too confusing?15:47
Phenxakik: na its a long story15:47
Phenxbascially i was just fucking around with dling ubuntu for just tonight casue we dont have an operating system for this dev machine yet15:47
Phenxand i put the ISO on my flash drive15:47
Phenxtried to install it15:47
Phenxthe comp didnt want to cooperate15:48
Phenxit doesnt even respond15:48
Phenxwhen i select install ubunut15:48
Phenxit gets to gui15:48
Phenxand 90 percent the time the keyboard does nothing15:48
akikPhenx: please don't use enter as your punctuation15:48
Phenxand i got lucky a few times earlier and it worked but then it would fail in install or lock up...15:49
akikPhenx: have you identified the problem with your hardware?15:49
tatertotsirinix your wireless isn't working eh?15:50
Phenxakik: i meanm its all brand new for our company, but.... i spilled beer on the keyboard a few mins ago15:50
Phenxand its a cheap keyboard15:50
irinixtatertots, yes15:50
akikPhenx: maybe you shouldn't drink beer while working15:50
tatertotsirinix did you get the proper modules loaded and all that good stuff?15:50
irinixtatertots, of course15:51
irinixevery thing I've done is on ubuntuForums and answers.ubuntu15:51
Phenxakik: the problem is that i havent slept15:51
Phenxnot the beer..15:51
Phenxwell the beer played a role15:51
tatertotsirinix did your wlan adapter work from livecd/liveusb similar to the original poster of the forum you posted above?, did anyone help you identify/confirm your wlan adapter and confirm the modules were loading on bootup?15:53
irinixtatertots, I don't need that assistance.  Yes my modules load during boot up.  Yes I'm 100% certain that my card is an intel centrino ultimate n 6320 because I've physically seen it15:55
irinixno, it did not work from the live cd15:55
tatertotsoh ok15:55
irinixyes, it did work from live usb once I had copied iwlwifi to the ramfs /bin/firmware15:55
irinixetc., etc.,15:56
irinixsorry if I'm salty, I've spent ~15 years in IT support15:57
irinixso...when I can't fix a problem I tend to be crusty about it. =(15:57
tatertotsno worries15:57
tatertotsit happens15:57
Phenxakik: but i love drinking16:00
debidiPhenx:        ^^^^^16:00
akikPhenx: ok but please keep the chat with support things16:00
Phenxaight well im out then i have no ubuntu things to discuss16:01
Phenxbecause im going to get windows 10 tomorrow for this machine instead16:01
Phenxits too much a bitch but i'll get a 4th dev machine for playground/server16:02
MonkeyDustmoral: windows 10 os for beer drinkers16:02
PhenxMonkeyDust: is that supposed to offend?16:03
Phenxor be a statement of joy?16:03
Phenxi really cant tell16:03
mustmodify_Last time I was here, I was having an issue with /boot being full. I gisted `df` and someone said one of my partitions was way too large or something... can you guys take a look and tell me if anything seems way off? https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/3f649a8ebe544fcee186596fa4854f9416:03
debidiwhen did github turn into a pastebin.. ?16:04
akikmustmodify_: you have plenty of space in the root file system. maybe that was commented earlier16:05
mustmodify_debidi: not sure. Initially I thought it was dumb. But there aren't any ads. They use git to do it, I guess.16:05
debidiwell, /boot doesn't look full to me16:06
akikgists can be used for that surely16:06
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debidiakik: mustmodify_ /proc/mounts ?16:07
akikdebidi: no it's a virtual file system16:07
Guest72812Hi, uninstalled firefox when i tried to update it, now I don't have a web browser anymore and apt-get can't find any packages, can anyone help me?16:07
mustmodify_debidi: What's your question? I don't see /proc/mounts16:07
mustmodify_this isn't a virtual fs. Or, at least, I would be surprised if it were. :)16:08
akikmustmodify_: /proc is if that's what you meant16:08
debidii mean, paste the contents of /proc/mounts (same as output from mount command)16:09
mustmodify_I see.16:09
ducassemustmodify_: /boot is rather small, on my laptop i occasionally run into problems with a /boot partition of similar size.16:10
huntixanyone running Photoshop under wine ?16:10
mustmodify_ducasse: yes, I do have problems with that filling up. I can usually correct them with autoclean.16:10
mustmodify_reload to see `cat /proc/mounts`16:11
debidilooks like enough space for an extra kernel or 2 tho16:11
mustmodify_yes, just enough.16:11
akika kernel+initramfs is about 45 megs16:11
rahul_kumiis there any way to perform packet injection in a Broadcom[BCM43224] wifi network card using a wl driver....please help16:12
rahul_kumii was using aircrack-ng to accomplosh this16:12
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ducassemustmodify_: you can resize the partitions, but it can be a hassle. i've never bothered, i just make sure to clean out extraneous kernels.16:14
debidiyour /boot partition is mounted rw with well over 130M of leftover space.. not sure what's the problem16:15
debidiwhat are the error messages you get, mustmodify_16:15
mustmodify_I'm not currently getting an error message. Last time I had an error (which was an issue with /boot being too small) someone commented that some other partition was oddly sized... I kind of remember it being too big... they said to look into it later.16:16
mustmodify_So I'm looking into it later.16:16
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debidi/boot/efi perhaps16:18
ducassemustmodify_: i wouldn't worry, just remember to run autoremove after kernel updates.16:18
akikmustmodify_: you have 190 gigs of free space in /16:21
mustmodify_So one of /dev/mapper/logopolis-root, /dev/mapper/logopolis--vg-root is a SSD and the other is not... how do I figue out which it is? (I could always open the machine and look at the drives if there's no clear-cut way to do it from the command line...)16:24
mustmodify_based on the size I would initially guess it's the 95G one.16:24
rahul-kumiis there any way to perform packet injection in a Broadcom[BCM43224] wifi network card using a wl driver....please help16:25
rahul-kumii was using aircrack-ng to accomplish this16:25
akikmustmodify_: you can use "sudo vgdisplay -v" to see your lvm configuration16:25
akikmustmodify_: the physical volumes are listed there16:26
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mustmodify_akik: but that doesn't tell me which one is the SSD, or even the mfgr... is there some other way to tell that I can't see?16:29
akikmustmodify_: you can match those devices then with "sudo parted -l"16:30
hicoleriWhy isn't mpv using youtube-dl for streaming videos and using quvi instead?16:32
hicoleriI'm not able to watch restricted videos16:32
hdhoghi all.16:39
hdhogi have problem with installation by network.16:39
hdhogboot from pxe is working but installer require internet connection, while original iso not required internet.16:39
hdhoghow install ubuntu server from network without internet and local mirror. Only use files from original iso ubuntu-16.04-server-amd64.iso.16:39
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD16:40
cwolfordrunning xenial gnome on a dell inspiron with an intel hd graphics card. how do i check the driver version and whether or not it's the most current?16:41
MonkeyDustcwolford  lshw -c video16:43
cwolfordMonkeyDust thanks.16:44
hdhogubottu: i try install server by pxe without internet. not possible to connect iso to server16:46
ubottuhdhog: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:46
OreGonhello all16:49
OreGonI was wondering if there is a keyboard shortcut for ubuntu to just switch the window to other monitor?16:49
OreGonI am using peppermint os and I know that its not ubuntu unity, but could the same shortcut work?16:50
SchrodingersScatOreGon: maybe check out wmctrl16:55
ufc222can someone help me get unbuntu to install on chromeos16:55
ufc222keep gettign error no screens found16:55
eelstrebori know i'm gonna be questioned as to why i attempted to upgrade to the latest stable kernel but i'll ask why it broke stuff anyway - googling hasn't provided an answer17:02
eelstreborafter updating my kernel from 4.4.0 to 4.6.3 my ubuntu unity desktop hasn't been working properly and i can't launch google-chrome (even though firefox launches) and Terminal keeps crashing as well as other problems - here's what i'm getting when trying to launch google-chrome from the cli: http://pastebin.com/bwgk71Zm17:02
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eelstreborrebooting back to 4.4.0 didn't help - something obviously got corrupted when i built and installed 4.6.317:02
eelstrebori don't know why this driver won't load even though it's on the pc: libGL error: failed to load driver: i96517:03
gevshey people - i am using a 3rd screen from today on, i activated the options needed in the BIOS settings and in fact the screen seems to be recognized. My ubuntu works fine on 2 screens (graphics card) and the 3rd screen is hanging on the boot screen mentioning "ubuntu" (3rd screen is onboard graphics)17:16
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gevsanyone already experienced this or give me a hint on how to solve ? :)17:17
ducassegevs: you have two screens connected to a discrete card and one to onboard?17:18
gevsactivated through bios worked (before i activated it nothing would display on the 3rd screen)17:18
gevsand now the 3rd screen simply displays the boot screen "Ubuntu" with the 5 dots17:19
ducassegevs: can you pastebin the output of 'xrandr -q'?17:19
gevsyep 22 mins17:20
gevs*2 lol17:20
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ducassegevs: nvidia or amd?17:22
gevssorry... back :)17:24
ducassegevs: the x driver can only see the two screens connected to the discrete adapter, as far as x is concerned the third screen does not exist. i don't think you can run an x server split over two gpus.17:25
gevsyou must be right17:25
gevsi just "ctrl + alt + 2"  - my 3rd screen displayed a terminal - both others screen show blank17:26
ducassegevs: i'm not sure, though, but i imagine that would require two separate x servers, but the necessary modules can probably not be loaded at the same time.17:26
gevsdisappointing :( guess i must buy a new graphic card then17:27
ducassegevs: what outputs does the card have?17:27
gevsonboard 1 vga + 1 dvi + 1 hdmi      pcie 2 dvi17:28
ducassegevs: yes, you can run three screens onboard or two on the discrete. sorry :-/17:29
gevshaha yeah well maybe ill have a look at "3 screens onboard" since my motherboard allows it .. but figured having the graphics card take 2 monitors off it would take me less ram :)17:29
gevsthanks for the try17:30
ducassegevs: i've got no other suggestions. i mean, you can _try_ running two x servers, but they wouldn't function as one desktop.17:31
gevsno thats not what im trying to have :)17:32
ducassegevs: i get that, i wouldn't want that either :)17:32
TestMasHello i was wonder if anyone knows how to turn off the processor power and utilization monitoring on a HP G5 as the ctrl + A does not work on the g5 i can not find anything that tells u what to do17:33
lucas-arghello, one question, my laptop changes automatically its screen brightness! dont know how to stop it17:41
vikramhello ubuntu17:41
MonkeyDustlucas-arg  when on battery power?17:42
lucas-argMonkeyDust, battery17:42
lucas-argMonkeyDust, when im on power its all right17:42
MonkeyDustlucas-arg  others have asked how to prevent that, no answer was found17:42
MonkeyDustlucas-arg  i think it's built in, in the laptop17:43
lucas-argMonkeyDust, i dont think so... while i was using windows that didnt happen17:44
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MonkeyDustlucas-arg  then repeat your question every 15-20 minutes, until someone enters who can help17:45
SuperLagWhat genius decided that leaving out SSH in the default install was a good idea???17:46
SchrodingersScatSuperLag: ? the openssh-server?17:46
SuperLagSchrodingersScat: yes17:46
MonkeyDustSuperLag  to keep the .iso small, some programs have been removed from it17:46
ducasseSuperLag: install server, and you'll get it.17:47
SuperLagthe ISO is > 1gb now.... that no longer applies17:47
SchrodingersScatSuperLag: it's been a thing for some time, there may or may not be a reason for desktops.17:47
nanotakadisable dim screen in Energy Saving.17:47
SuperLagducasse: it should come with the desktop too, if you ask me... makes automation a serious PITA17:47
MonkeyDustSuperLag  everyone has different programs s/he uses often, so they want it in the .iso17:49
* debidi shuns iso's17:49
SuperLagdebidi: how can you possibly shun an iso, if you want to do an install?17:49
debidiSuperLag: debootstrap17:49
SuperLagdebidi: oh, so you like pain? :)17:50
debidi:) i can have a base system setup faster than reboot and waiting for the first progress bar to reach a 10017:50
debidiSuperLag: best way to customize an install imho17:51
ducasseSuperLag: set up a preseed install, and you can get exactly the packages you want.17:52
SuperLagducasse: I've heard of it, but never done it yet.17:53
ducasseSuperLag: that's what you use if you want automated, custom installs. the default package selection will never be perfect for everybody.17:54
SuperLagducasse: Working on setting up automation with Ansible. I forgot the default install doesn't come with SSH. :/17:55
ducasseSuperLag: the server installer does, desktop doesn't. argue that with the people who build the images :)17:57
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tortibhow can I get jack working with pulseaudio?18:02
ducassetortib: install pulseaudio-module-jack, i would guess.18:03
tortibducasse, i tried that and jack isn't working still18:06
ubottudarkstar: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:08
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ducassetortib: maybe this will help - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Examples#PulseAudio_through_JACK18:12
arunpyasihello everyone, my HDD clicks many times then stops to spin ! Please help me to fix it18:21
xanguaBackup, get new HD18:22
debidiarunpyasi: freeze for 24 hr than thaw? if no luck dip in windex18:24
ajeffcoIs there an Ubuntu equivilant to the Centos minimal install?18:25
mabuswhats the sane way to install upgraded version of something previously installed via dpkg?18:25
kzhajeffco: snappy core?18:26
kzhmabus: is the upgrade you want not in the repo?18:26
debidiajeffco: debootstrap18:26
mabuskzh no im not installing with apt because its not available that way18:27
ajeffcoThanks kzh and debidi, I'll try both18:27
arunpyasixangua, debidi the problem is, it is even unrecognized on the BIOS18:27
ajeffco*look into18:27
ducassemabus: apt install ./package.deb18:27
kzhmabus: +1 what ducasse said18:28
kzhCan anybody tell me what their /etc/X11/Xsession.d/60x11-common_xdg_path says?18:28
debidirip arunpyasi's HDD, if the freezer thing don't work just pronounce it18:28
kzhMy XDG_DATA_DIRS is set incorrectly in my Ubuntu, I was wondering what everybody else's was.18:29
mabusdidnt work. i installed previously with dpkg -i18:29
mabusapt install gives me thousands of not found errors18:29
kzhAnybody else have the trailing slashes in /usr/share/ and /usr/local/share/ ?18:30
kzh> echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS18:30
mabusapparently dpkg -i is suitable for upgrading anyhow, thanks anyway folks18:32
ahatonyjust say hello and good night :-*18:42
Drohow can i install dmg2img in 14.04 ?18:43
Bashing-om!info dmg2img trusty18:43
ubottudmg2img (source: dmg2img): Tool for converting compress dmg files to hfsplus images. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.5-1 (trusty), package size 22 kB, installed size 92 kB18:43
cajuntechieHello everyone. Quick question about Snap Packages. Are they appropriate for binary only distributions or do I have to have the package compiled from source when it's installed?18:45
Bashing-omDro: ^^ make sure the universe repo is enabled in Software Sources and ' sudo apt install dmg2img ' should be all there is to it .18:45
arunpyasiis it possible that the damage of platters or heads might have result in HDD to unrecognize in the BIOS ?18:46
ducassearunpyasi: absolutely.18:46
arunpyasiducasse: So, it may not be a PCB circuit problem ?18:47
ducassearunpyasi: it may not be, but it could be. no way for me to know.18:48
arunpyasiducasse: so, how can I know that? Any idea ? Are you saying for hit and trail method ?18:48
ducassearunpyasi: i think you should just consider the drive to be dead, get a new one, and restore from backup.18:49
arunpyasiducasse: hmm18:49
ducassearunpyasi: seriously. you can't trust it anymore.18:49
arunpyasiducasse: hmm ok :)18:50
ducassearunpyasi: if you need to recover data from the drive, hand it over to professionals and make better backups in the future :)18:52
arunpyasiducasse: yeah, no data needed :P18:53
barnitoI have a system that freezes up every couple of days18:55
barnitohow can I troubleshoot it18:55
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rypervenchebarnito: When did this start happening?18:55
barnitowell I moved my znc over to this slower PC18:56
barnitostarted a week aftert that18:57
barnitowas on an i5 750, now on an older AMD processor18:58
barnitoonly using it for torrents and ZNC18:58
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barnitoanyone know?19:03
tatertotsanyone know what barnito?...19:04
ducassebarnito: dig through logs from around when it crashes, watch temperatures and test the ram.19:04
tatertotsyou didn't ask anything ..your last post was about torrents and ZNC19:04
barnitoI did19:05
barnito<barnito> I have a system that freezes up every couple of days  <barnito> how can I troubleshoot it19:06
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barnitosorry missed the '?'19:06
tatertotswell let it run from livecd/liveusb for a few days and that would let you determine if it's your installation or if it's something else19:07
ducassebarnito: could also be the motherboard is failing, looks like quite old gear.19:07
tatertotsthat's pretty simple and non complex19:07
tatertotsif it only freezes running your installed os and NOT from livecd/liveusb you know it's software and not hardware, dell and hp both have hardware diagnostics19:08
barnitoit never froze running windows19:08
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SchrodingersScat!info sysstat | barnito19:08
ubottubarnito: sysstat (source: sysstat): system performance tools for Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 11.2.0-1 (xenial), package size 245 kB, installed size 996 kB19:08
tatertotssince you cannot consistently reproduce the issue at will (at will) you'll have to start somewhere19:10
tatertotsintermittent computer issues are harder to pin down compared to issues that can be reproduced at will19:10
tatertotssince software runs on top of hardware you might want to validate that your hardware is okay first19:11
barnitothat is the point of freeze19:14
barnitoinstalling systat19:16
arunpyasianyone going for LinuxCon Japan from #ubuntu ?19:18
tatertotsi saw a linux box owned by a guy that managed to attempt to install everything under the sun...improperly i might add..for a year before it finally became so unstable he couldn't use it...a year worth of improper installs, configs is a lot to debug, he could make better use of his time by just starting over from scratch and reinstalling19:19
barnitomine is a pretty fresh install19:19
barnitoI may try lubuntu19:24
EriC^^has the wget exploit been patched yet?19:24
MonkeyDustEriC^^  https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2016-497119:26
EriC^^MonkeyDust: thanks19:27
mustmodify_hey uh... I did `ssh localhost` and it complained that the key signature had changed... how is that possible?19:28
Bashing-ombarnito: What's up with https://daisy.ubuntu.com/ ? as that URL gives " Invalid BSON." .19:32
MonkeyDustBashing-om  it's a MongoDB error, is what I read here19:34
avis-i need some assistance with a external usb 2.0 hard drive that is ext4.  for some reason if i reboot with it plugged in, the system will not boot and i get a single cursor.  if i reboot without it, my system loads perfectly.  further if the system loads perfectly i can plugin my hard drive for backup use.  it does not have an on/off switch and i have been unsuccessful every time to try and add hard drive to /etc/fstab19:35
barnitoI don't know what that is19:36
tatertotsavis do you plan to leave this "removable storage" usb 2.0 hard drive attached "permanently" ?19:37
avis-tatertots, yes i was hoping to.  but for some reason i cannot add it to /etc/fstab19:37
tatertotsit's external so it's kinda designed to be removed/portable...19:37
avis-its brand new, and at most i lifted it without it settling down once, but nothing i'd think too bad to destroy the drive19:38
avis-the computer was off at the time19:38
avis-i think19:38
tatertotsyour computer may be trying to boot from it...this would explain why it doesn't boot until you unplug it19:39
avis-that makes perfect sense19:39
avis-how do i get rid of that ?19:39
tatertotsyou can manage the computers boot devices/boot order from the BIOS of the computer19:39
ShotokanZHhi evryone19:43
ShotokanZHanyone can assist me with a troublesome installation of Kubuntu 16.04?19:43
SchrodingersScat!ask | ShotokanZH19:44
ubottuShotokanZH: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:44
ShotokanZHgreat, i'll go on:19:44
ShotokanZHI have an ASUS ROG G752VT with windows 10 installed (UEFI)19:45
ShotokanZHi've partitioned the ssd from windows so that i've 250GB free for the Kubuntu installation19:45
ShotokanZHi've burned the image (checked the checksum, it's ok) on a DVD and on a usb drive19:46
ShotokanZHbut when plasma starts, i get an error and the screen stays black19:46
ShotokanZH"Application plasma (plasmashell) signal 4 illegal instruction"19:47
ShotokanZHi'm guessing it's due to the fact that *that* notebook has two gpus (1x intel, 1x nvidia) but the intel one it's disabled hardware-level19:47
Bashing-om!nomodeset | ShotokanZH Maybe see what results:19:47
ubottuShotokanZH Maybe see what results:: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:47
ShotokanZHBashing-om, aready tried, no luck19:48
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Next, is from grub's boot menu, try and boot a recovery kernel .19:48
ShotokanZHBashing-om, single user mode you mean?19:49
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Best I recall, "recovery" is run level 3 .19:49
ShotokanZHty, gonna look into it19:50
Bashing-omShotokanZH: " intel one it's disabled hardware-level "; depending on the hardware interfacing .. may have to have Intel enabled to process the Nvidia interfacing .19:52
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ShotokanZHBashing-om, it's a gaming pc, they don't even have the option to enable it via bios :( it's just 'off' by default and that's it19:53
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Pastebin - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - . let's see if bios passes to the kernel the graphic's hardware .19:55
ShotokanZHBashing-om, rebooting... gonna tell you in a few minutes19:56
Bashing-omShotokanZH: K .. We be here .19:56
Shimmy568what goes on here?19:59
Bashing-omShotokanZH: This be ubuntu support channel .19:59
ShotokanZHBashing-om, the command returns only the NVidia one20:05
gargabookCan someone explain to me how Ubuntu approves apps in its repository20:07
ShotokanZHBashing-om, http://pastebin.com/raw/r9Lv4CnZ20:08
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Look'n ..20:10
eelstreborlooks like the right kernel is booting but the wrong vmlinuz and initrd.img are pointing to the previous kernel20:11
ShotokanZHeelstrebor, you're talking about my situation?20:11
ShotokanZHk :)20:12
OerHeksgargabook, There are a number of paths that a package can take to enter Ubuntu; Through Debian; Directly into Ubuntu and  Personal Package Archives  >>>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/16446/how-to-get-my-software-into-ubuntu20:12
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Does not look good for the home team as the Intel is not seen . Turned off in the firmware ?20:13
ShotokanZHBashing-om, from what i've heard from the asus tech guys it's disabled in the mobo, you can't even turn it on via bios20:14
VonBlumei need an expert in kali i can pay20:16
MonkeyDustVonBlume  kali is not supported here, you're in the wrong channel20:17
Bashing-omShotokanZH: What releae is this ? And we try and boot to terminal . From there perhaps see if it is possible to intall a graphic's driver - Nvidia recommends the 367 version driver .20:17
OerHeksVonBlume, good luck, wrong channel for kali support20:17
ShotokanZHBashing-om, 16.04 LTS20:17
ShotokanZHi've launched CTRL+ALT+F1 and now i'm in command line mode, gonna try and find an ethernet cable20:18
Bashing-omShotokanZH: So far so good .. indicates the problem is in the X layer ..20:19
ShotokanZHBashing-om, networking is ok, gonna try to install mesa drivers or nvidia ones?20:19
brodyHallo, meine Frage ist, wie kann ich meinen Drucker Epson XP 415 in Linux einbinden?20:20
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!20:20
MonkeyDust!cups| brody20:21
ubottubrody: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu20:21
Bashing-omShotokanZH: For a gamming machine you want the proprietary graphic's driver . As Nvidia recommends the 367 version, we get that one from our trusted PPA .20:23
ShotokanZHBashing-om, ok!20:23
ShotokanZHBashing-om, apt-get install nvidia-current ?20:24
Bashing-omShotokanZH: ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 ; sudo reboot ' . Let's see what we have on the other side .20:25
FunkyELFanyone here running on the Dell XPS 13 non-developer edition.  I'm wondering if there is really any difference bewtween developer and non-developer editions.  I think I'd rather get it with Windows 10 and dual boot into Ubutnu20:25
ShotokanZHBashing-om, dude if i reboot everything will be broken again20:26
ShotokanZHi haven't managed to install kubuntu YET20:26
ShotokanZHi'm still in the live!20:26
akikFunkyELF: i doubt there's anything different with the hardware. but on ubuntu side there is dell provided software packages20:27
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Then, we are back to booting the installer with "nomoeset" . See what results in the " try ubuntu" mode .20:29
ShotokanZHBashing-om, it does crash in nomodeset too20:29
ShotokanZHi'm currently with nomodeset added20:29
ShotokanZHand the only thing i can do is command line20:30
eelstreborwhy isn't my system booting to the correct vmlinuz?20:30
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Ouch, sorry but above my skill set at this point if we can not get a GUI on the live mode .20:30
ShotokanZHBashing-om, i guess i've done *something*20:31
ShotokanZHi installed the drivers and killed Xorg20:31
ShotokanZHit started "kind of ok"20:31
ShotokanZHi mean, graphics sucks but i am now in the installation phase :O20:32
ShotokanZHi guess i someohow did it \o/20:32
Bashing-omeelstrebor: Compare ' ls -al /vmlinuz* ; ls -al /initrd* ' with the installed kernels ' ls -al /boot ' .20:34
eelstreboryep, that's what my problem is - wrong vmlinuz and initrd.img -  redirecting the soft link with ln -s fixed the problem - i don't understand why update-grub didn't properly set this20:34
OerHekseelstrebor, tell us what you installed, or did before this happened?20:34
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Great ! so long as you are able to install the operating system .. we can install the graphic's driver after the install completes .20:35
OerHeks9/10 times the user did something manually, and refuses to mention in the question.20:35
ShotokanZHBashing-om, problem #220:36
ShotokanZHkubuntu does not seem to be able to find the M2 SSD20:36
eelstreborOerHeks, i decided to upgrade to the latest stable kernel from kernel.org - i believe that i followed the correct instructions for building and installing the new kernel20:36
ShotokanZHgparted finds only /dev/sda (a 'data' hard-drive, 1TB) and /dev/sdb (the pendrive, 60GB)20:36
eelstreborbut, since there are various methods on the web, who knows?20:37
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Yuk .. does bios see the M2 device ?, and what does the kernel see from ' sudo parted -l ' ?20:37
OerHekseelstrebor, no help with that, use the kernels from mainline, those are build for ubuntu20:37
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds20:37
ShotokanZHBashing-om, the bios does totally see it, and windows runs fine in it20:37
ShotokanZHBashing-om, same as gparted20:37
eelstreborOerHeks, i'm trying to build a custom kernel in order to use dvb utilities with my dvb card (such as a spectrum analyzer)20:38
eelstreborit requires a higher kernel to do so20:38
DaekdroomIs it possible to use different icon themes for GTK2 and GTK3 apps in Ubuntu?20:38
Bashing-omShotokanZH: I must now surmise that Windows uses the device as a " fast start" in that the device is raided ...I do not do Windows, and have no idea - if this is the case - how to make the 2 co-exist .20:39
ShotokanZHBashing-om, *sighs* i guess pregnancy it's more or less like that.20:40
Bashing-omShotokanZH: I am sure there are ways .. but O would not want the responsibility of breaking your Windos install to make ubuntu work . I am no longer Windows' literate .20:42
Soul_Sampleis there a way to update nautilus in ubuntu 16.04 without installing a bunch of additional cruft and potentially breaking the whole desktop?20:55
Kirito_When installing Ubuntu on a laptop with Intel FakeRAID (in a RAID 0 configuration), I can get Ubuntu to install without issue, but after restarting grub does not appear to recognize the RAID devices and thus falls back to its emergency shell.20:58
VonBlumei need an expert in kali i can pay20:59
hammer25OerHeks: that link you sent me a couple days ago did the trick. turns out my laptop had a small SSD used for caching, disabling that feature let ubuntu install normally. thanks!21:00
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Jordan_UShotokanZH: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l", "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path" and "cat /proc/partitions".21:13
Bashing-omShotokanZH: I will look over Jordan_U's shoulder, see what we both can learn .21:15
Kirito_https://bpaste.net/show/59a4524a6e54 This is the error I get when trying to run boot-repair. Any advice, please?21:22
ShotokanZHJordan_U, all 3 of 'em does not seem to be able to find the pcie m2 disk21:22
ShotokanZHBashing-om, ^21:23
Bashing-omShotokanZH: I trust Jordan_U On this issue . We wait for his advise .21:23
* ShotokanZH restarts the pc ready for further inputs21:24
r3zahey guys , im trying to open bash script with crone at specific time , it works great but i dunno how to close the script in specific time .. any help ?21:38
geirhayour script runs "forever"?21:38
geirhaanyway, timeout may be an option, but it depends on what the script is doing21:40
geirhayou may need to edit the script to make this reliable21:42
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ShotokanZHBashing-om, so, apparently due to several thousands users bashing their heads on the wall asus released a BIOS update (216) to enable the DGPU21:46
r3zageirha: i wrote the script by myself , its gonna upload files to google drive , but i want to stop uploading in specific time , i dunno how to manage that21:48
SchrodingersScatr3za: like mentioned, if you know the start time you can have timeout wait x seconds and then kill it.21:51
r3zaSchrodingersScat: how can i kill it ?21:52
r3zai think this is the better question21:52
SchrodingersScatr3za: that's what timeout does, man timeout.21:53
geirhatimeout -s TERM 10m yourscript21:53
r3zaSchrodingersScat: sorry , got it21:53
r3zageirha: thanks21:53
geirhamake sure you include -s TERM, because it sends SIGKILL by default21:54
SchrodingersScatr3za: there's also bash internals you can use where you background the command and then loop a test for $SECONDS being over the duration.21:54
r3zaSchrodingersScat: thats what i got from your words , start uploading in background "&" and then put a while for checking end time , right ?21:56
SchrodingersScatr3za: yeah, this is an example from one of my scripts, SECONDS=0; while (( "$SECONDS" < "$dur" )) ; do echo "stuff you want to do while process runs goes here" ; sleep "$sleepy" ; let sleepy=$RANDOM%60 ; done21:57
SchrodingersScatr3za: where $dur = the time duration in seconds that you want the backgrounded job to run21:58
SchrodingersScatr3za: catch the background pid with pid=$! ; then you can kill it how you want after that loop22:00
r3zaSchrodingersScat: im testing the code , let me check that one22:01
SchrodingersScatr3za: I mostly needed it because I needed to add an extra test other than duration, so it was two tests for the while loop, lets you get more creative.22:07
apavlovHey, I'm trying to debug an "immediate resume after suspend" issue on my desktop (Z170-A, i7 with integrated videocard) running 16.04. It seems to have emerged after some recent update (not more than a few weeks ago). Hopefully, I have excluded the USB and DRM as reasons. dmesg and analyze_suspend.py don't seem to have uncovered anything obvious (to my eye). Any ideas/pointers appreciated.22:09
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Well.... not the 1st time I have seen that a bios upgrade is needed . Will be interested to know if this is the fix .22:17
ShotokanZHBashing-om, apparently, nope22:18
ShotokanZHvideo still crashes, M2(nvme) drive still can't be seen22:18
r3zaSchrodingersScat: hows that ? http://pastebin.com/0Q26pfND22:21
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Hang on , I have seen that before ..lemme look at notes .22:23
ShotokanZH Bashing-om ok :)22:24
ShotokanZH(i'm using a Samsung 950 PRO M2 if it's of any help Bashing-om )22:24
Bashing-omShotokanZH: Yeah, we are looking at raid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2307273 ; https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_graphics#Driver_not_working_for_Intel_Skylake_chips ; https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2015q4-intel-graphics-stack-release .  gotta be away for a couple of hours, I will return .22:27
robert45hi guys, any idea how to solve this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/18924936/22:30
tgm4883robert45: have you tried running 'apt-get -f install'22:31
krismatrixhow does one update ubuntu wifi dirivers? I am having a problem where if my computer goes to sleep or locks by itself...i cannot connect to the internet again unless I restart my computer22:33
robert45tgm4883: tx for the help, I did but I get the following, could this break everything? http://paste.ubuntu.com/18925142/22:34
ShotokanZHBashing-om, i don't get what should i try to do, in the BIOS the NVMe disk is listed as "NON-RAID"22:34
tgm4883robert45: no, it's just installing a new kernel22:34
SchrodingersScatr3za: never tried like that22:35
r3zaSchrodingersScat: its working , thank btw22:36
SchrodingersScatk, good luck, have fun22:36
robert45tgm4883 ok so I went ahead and answered "y" and got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18925300/22:36
tgm4883robert45: can you pastebin the output of 'df -h'22:37
robert45tgm4883 usr is %6222:37
robert45let me show you full output22:38
tgm4883good idea22:38
robert45tgm4883 here! http://paste.ubuntu.com/18925444/22:38
tgm4883robert45: what kind of install is this?22:39
robert45tgm4883 its a 1and1 cloud server, Ubuntu 14, kernel is 3.13.0-53-generic #89-Ubuntu22:42
tgm4883robert45: you should probably open a ticket22:43
robert45tgm4883 are you saying this isnt related to ubuntu?22:45
tgm4883robert45: I'm saying it looks like they've done something funky here. That should work, but without knowing what else they did I'm not sure where to go from there22:45
OerHeksno space to install a kernel, maybe autoremove could do that22:46
tgm4883OerHeks: there's plenty of space though22:46
tgm4883according to df22:46
OerHekshmm yeah, missed that.22:47
robert45oops! Im full of inodes22:47
OerHekssomething funky going on, RO?22:48
robert45df -i shows 99% inode usage, Im running apt-get autoremove -f22:50
vlouvetHello, I am trying to figure out how to use ssh to access my windows RDP host via a pc on the internet with a public IP address. (RDP(behind nat) ---->ssh serv (public IP)<-----linux RDP client(behind nat)22:50
robert45hmm no change22:51
vlouvetcan someone help with the configuration of puTTy and ssh client in this process?22:51
tgm4883vlouvet: http://realprogrammers.com/how_to/set_up_an_ssh_tunnel_with_putty.html22:55
tgm4883vlouvet: I'd try that22:55
tgm4883vlouvet: not really a ubuntu question though22:55
joshh20I am trying to set my GRE tunnel to automatically start on system boot but crontab isn't executing the ip route commands for some reason22:59
jak2000hi all23:01
jak2000before i do an apt-get upgrade and apt-get update  i can acccess my sites: manzana.noip.me by sample after apt-get upgrade and apt-get update i cant wich need check?23:02
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joshh20Man this channel isnt good for getting help23:06
checoimgso more for fev talk ?23:06
bad_ipchecoimg no, support only per the nazi's23:08
bad_ipjak2000 check the syslog and see if there are errors23:09
bad_ipjak2000 cat /var/log/syslog23:09
wyseguywhat is the best way to keep ubuntu 16.04 running hot on my laptop? I have installed TLP but still seems to run the fan constantly23:09
SembianceWhy do I have seven `/sys/bus/platform/devices/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon0/temp#_input` files, but my CPU only has 6 cores (12 thanks to hyperthreading)23:10
jak2000bad_ip: http://pastie.org/1090301923:13
jak2000constantly i receibe this message: Jul  9 19:13:34 localhost postfix/smtpd[2265]: warning: hostname bosknet does not resolve to address Name or service not known23:14
jak2000Jul  9 19:13:34 localhost postfix/smtpd[2265]: connect from unknown[]23:14
Jordan_UShotokanZH: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l", "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path" and "cat /proc/partitions".23:14
Jordan_UShotokanZH: And the output of "sudo blkid" as well.23:14
bad_ipjak2000 Jul  9 19:12:55 localhost postfix/smtpd[2265]: warning: hostname bosknet does not resolve to address Name or service not known23:14
bad_ipjak2000 postfix is a bit ticked at your usage of a non-FQDN23:14
bad_ipjak2000 is this a bare-metal server?23:15
ShotokanZHJordan_U, i've just disabled RAID mode from bios, set it to AHCI, i'm waiting for the pc to reboot and i'll try that :D23:15
jak2000how to fix? or stop?23:15
bad_ipjak2000 show me /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname23:16
jak2000i changed these files23:16
jak2000see strange: Jul  9 19:15:01 localhost postfix/qmgr[1534]: EBDB95FE37: from=<jak@itsol.mx>, size=644, nrcpt=1 (queue active)23:16
jak2000Jul  9 19:15:01 localhost postfix/local[2401]: EBDB95FE37: to=<jak@itsol.mx>, orig_to=<jak>, relay=local, delay=0.02, delays=0.02/0/0/0, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to maildir)23:16
bad_ipThat's just postfix saying it sent it to the local maildr23:16
bad_ipYour hostname on a mail server should be resolveable/an FQDN23:17
ShotokanZHJordan_U, now i see all 3 the drives!!! :DDD23:17
jak2000wich file need modify?23:17
ShotokanZHstill need to fix the gpu thing btw23:17
bad_ipjak2000 One of your postfix config files contains a line that reads bosknet23:18
bad_ipjak2000 It's not resolveable, therefore, it's throwing this error23:18
tgm4883adding bosknet to the hosts file should fix that right?23:18
jak2000cd /etc/postfix/23:19
jak2000grep "bosknet" *.*23:19
jak2000nothing results23:19
jak2000and i not want bosknet  (not know what is it) :(23:19
joshh20I am trying to set my GRE tunnel to automatically start on system boot but crontab isn't executing the ip route commands for some reason23:19
ShotokanZHjoshh20, crontab has a different PATH variable23:20
ShotokanZHi'm not sure /sbin/ is in it23:20
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joshh20ShotokanZH, I set this in crontab but it didnt help 'SHELL=/bin/bash'23:21
ShotokanZHjoshh20, do it like that:23:21
ShotokanZHjoshh20, go in a console23:22
ShotokanZHjoshh20, type: 'echo "$PATH";'23:22
ShotokanZHjoshh20, add PATH=(the obtained path) to your crontab entry23:22
ShotokanZHit should be all23:22
joshh20ShotokanZH ok so now it looks like this in my crontab 'PATH=(/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin)'23:24
jak2000bad_ip any advice please23:24
ShotokanZHjoshh20, without parenthesis23:24
joshh20ShotokanZH Yes correct23:24
ShotokanZHin case check your $MAIL for errors23:25
ShotokanZH(cat $MAIL)23:25
Jordan_UShotokanZH: IIRC you were dual booting with Windows. Check to be sure that still works after disabling the FakeRAID.23:25
ShotokanZHJordan_U, fixed it with the windows boot cd23:25
ShotokanZHJordan_U, so now situation is:23:25
ShotokanZH>nvme disk is seen but plasma crashes on boot due to gpu issues23:26
Jordan_UShotokanZH: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg" and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log .23:27
ShotokanZHok, wait23:29
ShotokanZHJordan_U, http://sprunge.us/KSJW23:30
Almoullimmy Transmission WUI keeps loading for ever23:31
ShotokanZHJordan_U, http://sprunge.us/OeIh <- XORG23:32
jak2000how to check if port 80 is open and listening?23:39
ghostguyyou could try nmap23:39
ShotokanZHjak2000, netstat -anp | grep -l "\s" | grep "LISTEN "23:40
ShotokanZHsorry, grep -P23:40
ShotokanZHnetstat -anp | grep -P "\s" | grep "LISTEN "23:40
winston2ki use netstat -cpat to watch all servers and established connections23:42
ShotokanZHnc -vz 8023:43
jak2000nc: connect to port 80 (tcp) failed: Connection refused23:43
ShotokanZHjak2000, you got it, port is closed.23:43
jak2000how to open?23:43
jak2000not work: sudo ufw allow 8023:44
ShotokanZHjak2000, that's a stupid question.. there's no service listening dude23:44
ShotokanZHjak2000, what should be listening? apache? nginx?23:44
ShotokanZHjak2000, sudo service apache2 start23:45
jak2000its: sudo service apache2 reload23:46
ShotokanZHjak2000, nope, reload just 'reloads' the configurations23:47
jak2000Apache2 is NOT running.23:48
Jordan_UShotokanZH: It looks like you're trying to use the proprietary Nvidia drivers but haven't blacklisted nouveau / kernel mode setting.23:48
Almoullimhello guys23:49
Almoullimtransmission-daemon is not reloading its settings23:49
ShotokanZHJordan_U, i've just disabled nouveau and restarted xorg and i've a pseudo-nice installer23:50
ShotokanZHsome of the graphics details are fucked up but the installer seems to be working23:50
Jordan_UShotokanZH: Please watch your language. Are you in a LiveCD/USB environment still?23:50
ShotokanZHJordan_U, (sorry) yes, liveUSB environment, the installer is at 44%23:51
ShotokanZHhappily for me the usb device it's a 200MB/s usb 3.023:51
jak2000ShotokanZH: http://pastie.org/1090304923:52
ShotokanZHjak2000, run as root :)23:53
jak2000tes, see please line 1023:53
ShotokanZHjak2000, cat /var/log/nginx/error.log23:54
ShotokanZHmy bad, still thinking about nginx23:54
jak2000ooo: could not open error log file /var/www/manzanas.noip.me/logs/manzanaserror.log23:55
jak2000permisions problem?23:55
ShotokanZHjak2000, cat /var/log/apache2/error.log23:55
jak2000see: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul  9 18:25 manzanas.noip.me23:55
jak2000its ok?23:55
kulelu88After I do "sudo apt-get upgrade" on a server and it updates certain big packages, should I restart my server?23:56
Jordan_UShotokanZH: And you tried to use the proprietary drivers in the Live environment?23:56
ShotokanZHJordan_U, that's what i've done to have the installer working :)23:57
Jordan_UShotokanZH: Don't do that :)   (better to use vesa for the duration of installation if needed)23:57
ShotokanZHJordan_U, lol \o/ the installer just ended btw23:57
ShotokanZHlemme reboot and check23:57

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