| Kilos | morning all | 06:40 |
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| paddatrapper | Morning Kilos | 08:15 |
| Kilos | hi paddatrapper | 08:15 |
| === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka | ||
| superfly | Morning Kilos, paddatrapper | 09:54 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 09:55 |
| paddatrapper | Hey superfly | 10:56 |
| === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka | ||
| magespawn | good afternoon | 14:37 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 14:38 |
| magespawn | how goes it Kilos ? | 14:45 |
| Kilos | ok ty magespawn and there | 14:45 |
| magespawn | bit chilly today | 14:46 |
| magespawn | but otherwise all good | 14:46 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 14:55 |
| pavlushka | Hey magespawn | 14:55 |
| magespawn | hi pavlushka | 14:55 |
| Kilos | yes magespawn | 14:56 |
| magespawn | back | 14:56 |
| Kilos | wb | 14:57 |
| magespawn | computer locked trying to play a video file | 14:59 |
| Kilos | ouch | 14:59 |
| magespawn | very small pc aspire one, so not too surprising really | 15:01 |
| Kilos | physically small? | 15:04 |
| Kilos | or ram and performance small | 15:04 |
| magespawn | both | 15:05 |
| Kilos | whew | 15:05 |
| magespawn | but handy to carry every where | 15:06 |
| magespawn | thinking about getting a new machine, perhaps before the end of the year | 15:15 |
| Kilos | laptop? | 15:18 |
| Kilos | they are expensive things | 15:18 |
| Kilos | but if you hunt around you can get bargains | 15:19 |
| Kilos | ian paid 2.5k for this i5 | 15:19 |
| magespawn | and it you wait for the specials then you can also get good deals | 15:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: 2nd hand or new? | 16:48 |
| inetpro | good morning everyone | 16:48 |
| inetpro | 2.5K for an i5 sounds like a good deal | 16:49 |
| Kilos | rebuild inetpro | 17:19 |
| kulelu88 | how do I undo an apt-get install dist-upgrade? | 17:20 |
| magespawn | no idea kulelu88 | 17:32 |
| kulelu88 | fek | 17:32 |
| Kilos | what broke kulelu88 | 17:33 |
| kulelu88 | I need to revert back to an older kernel | 17:34 |
| Kilos | cant you chose on booting in the grub menu | 17:35 |
| kulelu88 | how do I access the grub menu on a remote server? | 17:35 |
| Kilos | oh my | 17:36 |
| magespawn | can you still access the computer? | 17:37 |
| kulelu88 | yeah, everything works, I can ssh into it | 17:39 |
| kulelu88 | I just need to undo my installs | 17:40 |
| kulelu88 | although I am now just upgrading to 16.04 | 17:40 |
| magespawn | i think there is a way that you edit grub manually to specifiy which kernel to use | 17:40 |
| superfly | Or uninstall the kernel you don't want | 17:44 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: won't I need to uninstall everything the dist-upgrade installed? | 17:47 |
| inetpro | try booting with the old kernel first kulelu88 | 17:48 |
| kulelu88 | I have no idea how to boot remotely | 17:48 |
| inetpro | uh oh! | 17:48 |
| magespawn | you can do sudo shutdown now -r but only after you have specified the kernel to use | 17:49 |
| inetpro | should be relatively simple to change but I haven't done it since grub2 | 17:50 |
| inetpro | I mean before grub2 | 17:50 |
| superfly | Just uninstall the old kernel. Grub will rerun and you should be fine | 17:50 |
| magespawn | what does ubuntu use as a boot loader now/ | 17:50 |
| magespawn | ? | 17:50 |
| inetpro | do what superfly suggests | 17:50 |
| superfly | Depends on the versions began the kernels of course | 17:51 |
| superfly | *between | 17:51 |
| kulelu88 | let me try upgrading to 16.04 instead. LXD wasn't working before the dist-upgrade either | 17:51 |
| superfly | I'm busy getting kids to bed, I'll chat more about our when I'm done | 17:52 |
| superfly | *it | 17:53 |
| superfly | kulelu88: just hold on | 17:53 |
| kulelu88 | alright, no problem. just reading up about upgrading LTS. | 17:53 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 17:54 |
| nlsthzn | uncle Kilos, alo | 17:57 |
| nlsthzn | all well in ZA land I hope?! | 18:03 |
| Kilos | yip just winter again, how bout there | 18:04 |
| kulelu88 | apart from the country gradually falling apart, all is well | 18:05 |
| nlsthzn | hot as hell but that is to be expected | 18:06 |
| magespawn | nlsthzn: i think that we are currently at the other end of that | 18:28 |
| nlsthzn | well the heat has to go someplace :p | 18:28 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:29 |
| magespawn | indeed and we have had a mild winter so far | 18:29 |
| Kilos | yeah but still eina cold | 18:29 |
| kulelu88 | hot > cold | 18:30 |
| nlsthzn | can always put on more clothes, can't get more naked than naked | 18:32 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 18:32 |
| kulelu88 | I disagree with that. There is only a certain amount of clothes you can wear before you become immobile | 18:33 |
| kulelu88 | or before the clothes start tearing | 18:33 |
| Kilos | i agree | 18:33 |
| superfly | kulelu88: if you want to upgrade from release to release (or LTS to LTS) you need to use the do-release-upgrade command | 18:34 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: I wanted to get LXD running on 14.04. I want to avoid systemd as best I can, but 14.04 is wonky with LXD | 18:34 |
| kulelu88 | how is/was debconf? superfly | 18:35 |
| superfly | kulelu88: systemd is more hype than anything else. | 18:35 |
| superfly | kulelu88: good, tiring. | 18:35 |
| superfly | kulelu88: people really enjoyed it | 18:35 |
| kulelu88 | its also bloatware superfly . linux shouldn't have such a large dependency . apparently you can remove it from debian jessie easily without breaking anything? | 18:35 |
| * nlsthzn still wants to check out some of the vids | 18:36 | |
| kulelu88 | I would have come for it, but cape town in winter ... | 18:36 |
| superfly | kulelu88: it was hardly winter | 18:37 |
| superfly | some cold nights, and 1 rainy day | 18:37 |
| superfly | "It was a very good DebConf... the best so far. (and Daytrip, Conference Dinner: I doubt some other DebConf could do better)" | 18:37 |
| nlsthzn | gents, I go sleep... have a good one | 18:37 |
| superfly | nlsthzn: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2016/debconf16/ | 18:37 |
| Kilos | night nlsthzn | 18:37 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 18:37 |
| * superfly is in the process of putting them up on the site | 18:38 | |
| nlsthzn | thanks superfly... | 18:38 |
| inetpro | good night oom Kilos | 18:38 |
| kulelu88 | you tinkered with Devuan? superfly | 18:38 |
| kulelu88 | what's the link to the debconf videos? | 18:38 |
| Kilos | i ssaid night to nlsthzn inetpro | 18:38 |
| superfly | kulelu88: negative | 18:38 |
| Kilos | keep up man | 18:38 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:38 |
| inetpro | ah | 18:38 |
| superfly | kulelu88: the one I posted for nlsthzn | 18:38 |
| * inetpro would have loved to follow the conference, but... | 18:38 | |
| kulelu88 | that's download no? I want to stream it | 18:39 |
| superfly | inetpro: alweer in 'n dwaal | 18:39 |
| superfly | kulelu88: in Firefox that'll stream it | 18:39 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 18:39 |
| inetpro | there's just not enough time in a day | 18:39 |
| Kilos | nog steeds | 18:39 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:39 |
| kulelu88 | I guess I should upgrade to 16.04 and hope LXD works :D | 18:43 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: is a rolling release better for servers or a stable? | 18:43 |
| superfly | kulelu88: don't use a rolling release on a server | 18:43 |
| superfly | kulelu88: stable or Ubuntu LTS | 18:43 |
| superfly | http://gizmodo.com/apollo-11s-source-code-is-a-surprisingly-hilarious-arti-1783415335 | 18:44 |
| kulelu88 | is there such a thing where you get a rolling release that releases stable features? | 18:44 |
| kulelu88 | eg. a rolling release that releases stable kernel updates? | 18:44 |
| inetpro | server software should always be tried and tested extensively | 18:48 |
| Kilos | ok now i sleep. night all. rest well | 18:48 |
| Kilos | see you tomorrow | 18:49 |
| magespawn | good night Kilos | 18:49 |
| magespawn | now inetpro | 18:49 |
| inetpro | goeienag Kilos | 18:49 |
| inetpro | too late | 18:50 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: are you guys using docker yet? | 18:55 |
| superfly | kulelu88: yes | 18:56 |
| kulelu88 | what do you guys use for build automation? | 18:56 |
| superfly | Go-CD | 18:58 |
| superfly | http://go.cd/ | 18:58 |
| superfly | we have containers running Go-CD, and then we mount docker's socket from the container back to the host machine so that the host machine does the actual builds, and then push the builds up to a repository | 19:00 |
| superfly | (very meta) | 19:00 |
| superfly | kulelu88: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2016/debconf16/systemd_in_Debian_a_status_update.webm | 19:06 |
| magespawn | i am also off to bed, good night all | 19:48 |
| kulelu88 | I was going to watch that video just now superfly | 21:39 |
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