[02:30] hi could someone look at this MP since it's had no action for 4 months: [02:30] https://code.launchpad.net/~torsten.franz/kubuntu-web-shortcuts/kubuntu-web-shortcuts/+merge/288027 [07:59] any reason you guys are not updating kdelibs to latest LTS release? [08:02] tsdgeos: bug in the tooling. It's updated in staging but has a missing symbol that I didn't investigate yet. [08:18] clivejo: kldap seems a blocker on some of the deps or build failures [08:20] I added some build deps to that yesterday to make it build but then got some extra files I'm not sure where to place [08:21] testing locally I mean [08:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/19060115/ [08:43] yofel: yakkety packages for ki18n and kde-l10n-* conflict [09:16] Good morning. [09:16] hiho o/ [09:17] Hey soee, how are you? [09:18] lordievader: tbh. cool :D You ? [09:18] Doing good here :) === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [11:51] clivejo: food for your green eyed monster :P http://i.imgur.com/G9ydUIH.png [11:51] you are mean! [11:52] I had to to think carefully about yofel's "are you evil?" question [11:56] I don't have a bouncer, so if I disappear off IRC and don't get beck on on my laptop, then that is why. Doing a re-install on new disk [11:58] clivejo: can I get a kde bouncer/BNC account yet? Not that fussed, but would be handy. [11:59] maybe ask valorie [11:59] she helped me get one [11:59] yep. that sounds a good route, thanks :) [12:00] you need to be sponsored by a KDE senior person [12:01] Ill try and remember to ask valorie later [12:01] grrrr [12:01] yeah, I gathered they don't give them out without some sort of backup [12:01] so much for a super council [12:01] if you don't get it and don't mind using quassel you can have an account on my core [12:02] (if you don't mind me knowing your nickserv password) [12:02] how do we know yofel isnt evil! [12:02] yofel: I'm still on hexchat. was what I started using in 1990's [12:03] XD [12:03] xchat as it was [12:03] clivejo: my nick doesn't start with evil_ :P [12:03] ahhhh [12:04] acheronuk might need an evil nick [12:04] or a mean one === acheronuk is now known as evil_acheron [12:04] perhaps === evil_acheron is now known as mean_acheron [12:06] or maybe [12:06] * clivejo wonders if he could interscept Rik's SDD and get it sent to him instead [12:06] MUAHAHAAAA [12:06] oooo [12:06] server didnt like yofel turning evil [12:06] oh my, my alternate personaly visited [12:06] nope! [12:06] * yofel runs === mean_acheron is now known as acheronuk [12:07] Ok. I will ask valorie for starters on the BNC [12:08] If not, I will take up yofel's kind offer [12:55] sgclark: congrats new job :D [12:55] ty [13:58] I know I shouldn’t clivejo but... http://i.imgur.com/9tkLND8.jpg [14:18] XD [14:19] acheronuk: I recently replaced my spinning disk with an SSD, making an ancient T41 now my favorite home computer again. [14:20] https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-EVO-2-5-Inch-MZ-75E4T0B/dp/B01G844OOO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468246835&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+850+evo+4TB [14:20] *drool* [14:22] lol. about 2x what I could justify on a whole desktop or laptop! [14:42] acheronuk: on ssd ? [14:50] soee: not yet [14:51] oh, the price in yofel's link? [15:18] FYI: digikam 5.0.0 is in debian experimental [18:38] Hi Folks... [18:39] hi Rick [18:39] I'm working on Dojo Course work. I want to dicuss where we now keep our Kubunut Packaging for the /debian folder [18:39] Is that here [18:39] https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-packaging [18:40] Hey clivejo [18:40] https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git [18:40] I've added the slides for Dojo iii and I am just working on Dojo IV. My plan is to finish the Yellow Belt series at Dojo IV, and then just to loop around once a month [18:41] So I cover the same beginners stuff over and over [18:41] Thanks for Link [18:41] maybe pick small projects for people to work on along side [18:42] so no more debian's alioth? [18:42] oh hi santa_ [18:42] long time no see!! [18:42] hi [18:42] where ya been? [18:43] regarding free software working on krecipes and then 2-3 months inactive [18:44] havent seen you from around christmas time :P [18:45] yes, we are moving everything to LP git [18:46] and yofel got the triggers working for KCI [18:47] lets us train and get people packaging a bit faster and less issues with Debian alioth access [18:47] I see, that's good [18:47] less issues for me [18:48] also any launchpad member can send us a merge request [18:48] yes, I just saw that [18:49] yofel: what about the automation stuff? [18:49] we mod it to work from LP too [18:50] https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation [18:54] hows apps 16.04.3 looking for people? [18:55] soee: ping? [18:55] clivejo: pong [18:55] hows testing of apps 16.04.3 on YY going? [18:55] oh i do not have YY [18:56] mamarley, BluesKaj: ^ [18:56] but but [18:56] you are chief tester [18:56] hi soee, clivejo [18:56] and there are 2 reds in build list [18:57] oh, who put kde4libs there [18:57] clivejo: do you guys have any work regarding gcc 6? [18:57] santa_: that I dont know [18:57] yofel: ^ [18:58] we are having "issues" with getting Qt for plasma 5.7 [18:58] oh yofel uploaded that [18:58] on Saturday [18:59] symbols issues [19:01] clivejo: huh? [19:02] oh, kde4libs [19:03] santa_: doko did an archive test rebuild regarding gcc6, but many of our packages got stuck in depwait (probably thanks to the couple failures) [19:03] haven't really looked at it yet [19:04] yofel: ok, I *might* have a look depending on my free time [19:05] good chance to refresh my auto build stuff [19:05] clivejo: Re small projects ^^ - Do we have a list anywhere ? [19:05] santa_: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20160705-gcc6-yakkety.html#kubuntu [19:06] sick_rimmit: nope, but things like kdeconnect, kamoso, purpose [19:06] tend to build quick and quick easy to fix them [19:09] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [19:09] sbuild-build-depends-akonadi-search-dummy : Depends: libkf5akonadimime-dev (>= 4:15.12~) but it is not going to be installed [19:09] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [19:09] sbuild-build-depends-akonadi-search-dummy : Depends: libkf5akonadimime-dev (>= 4:15.12~) but it is not going to be installed [19:10] why is that not saying >= 4:16.04 in the unstable branch o.O [19:10] * yofel smells bugs [19:10] is the auto bump in staging script not working/disabled? [19:11] dunno, trying to find out now [19:11] Ive noticed that in a few apps packages [19:14] hm, nothing in akonadi-search got bumped [19:15] that's why I was trying to fix kldap [19:17] kdepimlibs has a dep wait on that [19:19] bump-build-dep-versions works fine if I run it by hand... [19:19] maybe this package ended up in manual and nobody did the build-dep bumps [19:27] clivejo: did you get anywhere with the tagging? [19:44] 00:30:34 dpkg-buildflags --export=make > debian/dhmk_env.mk [19:44] 00:30:34 make: *** Cannot allocate memory. Stop. [19:44] 00:30:34 dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules clean gave error exit status 2 [19:44] 00:30:34 chown -R jenkins:jenkins /var/lib/jenkins/workspaces/yakkety/unstable/extra-cmake-modules [19:44] wtf?!? === BluesKaj is now known as Blues-away [19:52] * yofel doesn't see the server ever running low on memory [20:01] clivejo: Going fine. No problems to report. :) [20:02] :) [20:02] clivejo: staging FW 5.24? [20:03] I wonder if we could set up a bunch of jenkins executors on that linode [20:04] soee: no [20:04] I cant get the tagging script to *beeping* work [20:05] running it onw [20:05] *now even [20:06] how?!? [20:06] ./ubuntu-archive-upload -r frameworks -v 5.23 -t /tmp/fw523/ [20:06] and how did you get frameworks? [20:06] what do you mean? [20:07] how did you get /tmp/fk523 [20:07] mkdir /tmp/fw523 [20:07] nothing in there at the beginning [20:07] :P very funny! [20:07] what, you asked me what I did :P [20:08] :D [20:09] you give it a blank folder to work with? [20:09] I thought it needed the git frameworks [20:10] nope [20:10] blank folder is throwing errors too [20:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/19109575/ [20:16] clivejo: subprocess.check_call(["pull-ppa-source", "-d", ppaString, package, release]) [20:16] -> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory [20:16] pull-ppa-source is in your PATH, yes? [20:16] in what directory? [20:17] $PATH [20:17] has to be reachable by that [20:17] where does that live? [20:17] kubuntu-dev-tools [20:18] there be my problem [20:19] feel free to try and tag plasma if you want. I'm still on frameworks [20:31] clivejo: frameworks tagged and pushed [20:31] are you on plasma? [20:31] grrrrr [20:32] still getting this error [20:32] can I see your $PATH [20:35] I used a symlink in ~/bin [20:35] lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel 53 Nov 22 2015 /home/yofel/bin/pull-ppa-source -> /home/yofel/src/kubuntu-dev-tools/bin/pull-ppa-source [20:36] doesnt say that in the *beeping* instructions! [20:43] oh its in bin [20:44] I certainly will sponsor acheronuk/Rik for a KDE developer account [20:45] gotta start with an https://identity.kde.org/ account first, then bump to devel [20:46] yofel: should these be uploaded to staging? [20:47] no. Theoretically they should be uploaded to archive, but I don't want to deal with that currently [20:47] hm, might as well stage frameworks while I'm here [20:47] how did that go again.. [20:48] good idea [20:48] maybe wipe the staging and copy another set of Qt from Riks PPA [20:49] did he update something? [20:49] no, just frameworks build weird last time [20:49] blue installed them on his system and broke it [20:49] hm [20:49] ah, that'll be the private abi probably [20:50] don't use those packages without a full QA run over everything [20:50] I did say to remove staging PPA, but he mustnt have listened [20:51] so this script can be used on an existing workspace git area? [20:52] no [20:52] well, technically yes - it'll simply delete what's in the way [20:52] so it doesn't make a difference [20:53] might save my bandwidth if the source tarballs are athere [20:53] Ill try it next time [20:53] yeah, the script doesn't work like that. It intentionally makes sure that no existing data is there [20:53] user your container :P [20:54] is it setup now? [20:55] well, it's running [20:55] how do I access it? [20:55] FWIW, now that you have a host account, you could just 'lxc exec kde-apps bash' into it [20:55] otherwise with the ssh information aaron gave you [20:55] I could what now? [20:55] erm, give me a sec [20:56] I'll look up the info again [20:56] can we point kubuntu.org dns at it? [20:56] clivejo: ssh -p 4242 -u ubuntu@139.162.164.207 [20:56] no [20:56] why not? [20:56] talk to canonical IS if you want that [20:57] kubuntu.co.uk would be easier I guess [20:57] I just make an entry in my ssh config so I don't forget the IP [20:57] *made [20:57] ssh ubuntu@dev.kubuntu.org would be lot easier to remember! [20:58] Permission denied (publickey). [20:59] Riddell: kubuntu.co.uk was owned by you? [21:00] ok in [21:00] great, now you can beta test the container :P [21:00] ubuntu@kde-apps $ beta test [21:00] beta: command not found [21:00] lol [21:01] yofel: still is by the looks of it, it's what I had to use to launch kubuntu [21:01] wont work yofel [21:01] Riddell: can you add other IPs for subdomains or is that a single-domain account? [21:03] yofel: I can add anything https://paste.kde.org/pyail50wz [21:04] Riddell: could you please make 'dev' point to 139.162.164.207 / 2a01:7e01::f03c:91ff:fe9b:78da [21:04] hmm dunno if it can do ip6 [21:05] v6 would be 'AAAA' [21:05] oh yes it can, clever [21:05] yofel: done [21:06] grrr [21:06] Riddell: thanks a lot! [21:06] guess we'll find out how well it works after the update [21:06] how many errors can one script throw [21:06] XD [21:06] "lots"? :P [21:07] subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['git', 'clone', 'git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-discover', 'git']' returned non-zero exit status 128 [21:07] o.O [21:07] ssh key missing? [21:07] nope [21:07] it was working til that point [21:08] what do we have it in LP as? [21:08] or launchpad timed out.. [21:08] oh [21:08] discover [21:08] yeah, that should be cloning 'discover' [21:08] how did that break again *-.- [21:11] this logic confusses me [21:11] upstream-names.json has an entry "plasma-discover": "discover", [21:12] upstream here means KDE [21:12] $ host dev.kubuntu.co.uk [21:12] dev.kubuntu.co.uk has address 139.162.164.207 [21:12] dev.kubuntu.co.uk has IPv6 address 2a01:7e01::f03c:91ff:fe9b:78da [21:12] yay [21:13] yofel can git store a symlink? [21:13] I think so [21:13] discover is one of those double-converted packages because it doesn't fit into the proper package scheme [21:14] and nobody ever changed the scripts to properly support that [21:14] what should its git name be? [21:14] discover [21:15] why do debian have it as plasma-discover? [21:15] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/plasma-discover.git/ [21:15] uhm [21:15] dunno [21:15] shouldnt we follow that? [21:15] debian does weird things [21:16] LOL [21:17] * yofel is too tired to properly answer that [21:25] * genii sips and ponders the Debian weirdos [21:27] ! [21:27] FWIW, plasma-discover is probably the correct thing to use [21:27] lets talk about that tomorrow [21:27] I think there is already another package named discover [21:27] same with spectacle [21:27] can I rename it in LP, to get this script to finish [21:28] no, you'll break the CI and other scripts [21:29] just make the script override the name [21:29] I think Ive had enough for tonight as well! [21:31] FW 5.24 up [21:32] oh right. ahoneybun: thanks to clive having ideas and thanks to jonathan the linode is now called dev.kubuntu.co.uk [21:33] woooo === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Yakkety open, happy hacking | Plasma 5.6.5 Y-LANDING, X-BACKPORTS / Apps 16.04.02 Y-STAGING, X-STAGING / FW 5.24 Y-STAGING, 5.23 X-BACKPORTS| https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging [21:38] yofel: just a quick question, you are still using the old monolithic scripts in KA right? [21:38] santa_: for the bulk work, yes [21:39] ok, I will try to resume the new design implementation then [21:39] just got a look to the git-clone-all changes [21:39] I never had enough spare time to figure out how to use your tooling and still make sure that all required steps are done [21:39] I guess I will dig more tomorrow [21:40] yeah, I will be around when stuff is ready to be used [21:59] wb santa_ [21:59] we've missed ya [21:59] thank you [22:00] are you coming to Akademy/qtcon? [22:01] I don't think so, but we will see [22:02] I have various things to sort out [22:02] boo [22:02] haha [22:02] IRC is always a substitute for face to face [22:02] but eventually we'll get together again [22:03] sure, one convention or another... [22:10] I usually get to europe only once per year [22:11] it is a long flight all the way across the US and the atlantic! [22:11] will be easier this time because I'm stopping in NYC for a few days with my youngest and his hubby [22:40] I can confirm that this is good in YY: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-framework/+bug/1560404/comments/5 [22:40] Launchpad bug 1560404 in plasma-framework (Ubuntu Xenial) "Live session desktop uses too small folder view widget" [High,Fix committed]