[02:30] <jbicha> hi could someone look at this MP since it's had no action for 4 months:
[02:30] <jbicha> https://code.launchpad.net/~torsten.franz/kubuntu-web-shortcuts/kubuntu-web-shortcuts/+merge/288027
[07:59] <tsdgeos> any reason you guys are not updating kdelibs to latest LTS release?
[08:02] <yofel> tsdgeos: bug in the tooling. It's updated in staging but has a missing symbol that I didn't investigate yet.
[08:18] <acheronuk> clivejo: kldap seems a blocker on some of the deps or build failures
[08:20] <acheronuk> I added some build deps to that yesterday to make it build but then got some extra files I'm not sure where to place
[08:21] <acheronuk> testing locally I mean
[08:23] <acheronuk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19060115/
[08:43] <tsdgeos> yofel: yakkety packages for ki18n and kde-l10n-* conflict
[09:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:16] <soee> hiho o/
[09:17] <lordievader> Hey soee, how are you?
[09:18] <soee> lordievader: tbh. cool :D You ?
[09:18] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[11:51] <acheronuk> clivejo: food for your green eyed monster :P http://i.imgur.com/G9ydUIH.png
[11:51] <clivejo> you are mean!
[11:52] <acheronuk> I had to to think carefully about yofel's "are you evil?" question
[11:56] <acheronuk> I don't have a bouncer, so if I disappear off IRC and don't get beck on on my laptop, then that is why. Doing a re-install on new disk
[11:58] <acheronuk> clivejo: can I get a kde bouncer/BNC account yet? Not that fussed, but would be handy. 
[11:59] <clivejo> maybe ask valorie
[11:59] <clivejo> she helped me get one 
[11:59] <acheronuk> yep. that sounds a good route, thanks :)
[12:00] <clivejo> you need to be sponsored by a KDE  senior person
[12:01] <clivejo> Ill try and remember to ask valorie later
[12:01] <clivejo> grrrr
[12:01] <acheronuk> yeah, I gathered they don't give them out without some sort of backup
[12:01] <clivejo> so much for a super council
[12:01] <yofel> if you don't get it and don't mind using quassel you can have an account on my core
[12:02] <yofel> (if you don't mind me knowing your nickserv password)
[12:02] <clivejo> how do we know yofel isnt evil!
[12:02] <acheronuk> yofel: I'm still on hexchat. was what I started using in 1990's 
[12:03] <yofel> XD
[12:03] <acheronuk> xchat as it was
[12:03] <yofel> clivejo: my nick doesn't start with evil_ :P
[12:03] <clivejo> ahhhh
[12:04] <clivejo> acheronuk might need an evil nick
[12:04] <clivejo> or a mean one
[12:04] <evil_acheron> perhaps
[12:06] <mean_acheron> or maybe
[12:06]  * clivejo wonders if he could interscept Rik's SDD and get it sent to him instead
[12:06] <evil_yofel> MUAHAHAAAA
[12:06] <clivejo> oooo
[12:06] <clivejo> server didnt like yofel turning evil
[12:06] <yofel> oh my, my alternate personaly visited
[12:06] <mean_acheron> nope!
[12:06]  * yofel runs
[12:07] <acheronuk> Ok. I will ask valorie for starters on the BNC
[12:08] <acheronuk> If not, I will take up yofel's kind offer
[12:55] <soee> sgclark: congrats new job :D
[12:55] <sgclark> ty
[13:58] <acheronuk> I know I shouldn’t clivejo but... http://i.imgur.com/9tkLND8.jpg
[14:18] <yofel> XD
[14:19] <marco-parillo> acheronuk: I recently replaced my spinning disk with an SSD, making an ancient T41 now my favorite home computer again.
[14:20] <yofel> https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-EVO-2-5-Inch-MZ-75E4T0B/dp/B01G844OOO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468246835&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+850+evo+4TB
[14:20] <yofel> *drool*
[14:22] <acheronuk> lol. about 2x what I could justify on a whole desktop or laptop!
[14:42] <soee> acheronuk: on ssd ?
[14:50] <acheronuk> soee: not yet
[14:51] <acheronuk> oh, the price in yofel's link?
[15:18] <yofel> FYI: digikam 5.0.0 is in debian experimental
[18:38] <sick_rimmit> Hi Folks...
[18:39] <clivejo> hi Rick
[18:39] <sick_rimmit> I'm working on Dojo Course work. I want to dicuss where we now keep our Kubunut Packaging for the /debian folder
[18:39] <sick_rimmit> Is that here
[18:39] <sick_rimmit>  https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-packaging
[18:40] <sick_rimmit> Hey clivejo
[18:40] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git
[18:40] <sick_rimmit> I've added the slides for Dojo iii and I am just working on Dojo IV. My plan is to finish the Yellow Belt series at Dojo IV, and then just to loop around once a month
[18:41] <sick_rimmit> So I cover the same beginners stuff over and over
[18:41] <sick_rimmit> Thanks for Link
[18:41] <clivejo> maybe pick small projects for people to work on along side
[18:42] <santa_> so no more debian's alioth?
[18:42] <clivejo> oh hi santa_
[18:42] <clivejo> long time no see!!
[18:42] <santa_> hi
[18:42] <clivejo> where ya been?
[18:43] <santa_> regarding free software working on krecipes and then 2-3 months inactive
[18:44] <clivejo> havent seen you from around christmas time :P
[18:45] <clivejo> yes, we are moving everything to LP git
[18:46] <clivejo> and yofel got the triggers working for KCI
[18:47] <clivejo> lets us train and get people packaging a bit faster and less issues with Debian alioth access
[18:47] <santa_> I see, that's good
[18:47] <santa_> less issues for me
[18:48] <clivejo> also any launchpad member can send us a merge request
[18:48] <santa_> yes, I just saw that
[18:49] <santa_> yofel: what about the automation stuff?
[18:49] <clivejo> we mod it to work from LP too
[18:50] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation
[18:54] <clivejo> hows apps 16.04.3 looking for people?
[18:55] <clivejo> soee: ping?
[18:55] <soee> clivejo: pong
[18:55] <clivejo> hows testing of apps 16.04.3 on YY going?
[18:55] <soee> oh i do not have YY
[18:56] <soee> mamarley, BluesKaj: ^
[18:56] <clivejo> but but
[18:56] <clivejo> you are chief tester
[18:56] <BluesKaj> hi soee, clivejo 
[18:56] <soee> and there are 2 reds in build list
[18:57] <clivejo> oh, who put kde4libs there
[18:57] <santa_> clivejo: do you guys have any work regarding gcc 6?
[18:57] <clivejo> santa_: that I dont know
[18:57] <soee> yofel: ^
[18:58] <clivejo> we are having "issues" with getting Qt for plasma 5.7
[18:58] <clivejo> oh yofel uploaded that
[18:58] <clivejo> on Saturday
[18:59] <clivejo> symbols issues
[19:01] <yofel> clivejo: huh?
[19:02] <yofel> oh, kde4libs
[19:03] <yofel> santa_: doko did an archive test rebuild regarding gcc6, but many of our packages got stuck in depwait (probably thanks to the couple failures)
[19:03] <yofel> haven't really looked at it yet
[19:04] <santa_> yofel: ok, I *might* have a look depending on my free time
[19:05] <santa_> good chance to refresh my auto build stuff
[19:05] <sick_rimmit> clivejo: Re small projects ^^ - Do we have a list anywhere ?
[19:05] <yofel> santa_: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20160705-gcc6-yakkety.html#kubuntu
[19:06] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: nope, but things like kdeconnect, kamoso, purpose
[19:06] <clivejo> tend to build quick and quick easy to fix them
[19:09] <yofel> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:09] <yofel>  sbuild-build-depends-akonadi-search-dummy : Depends: libkf5akonadimime-dev (>= 4:15.12~) but it is not going to be installed
[19:09] <yofel> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:09] <yofel>  sbuild-build-depends-akonadi-search-dummy : Depends: libkf5akonadimime-dev (>= 4:15.12~) but it is not going to be installed
[19:10] <yofel> why is that not saying >= 4:16.04 in the unstable branch o.O
[19:10]  * yofel smells bugs
[19:10] <clivejo> is the auto bump in staging script not working/disabled?
[19:11] <yofel> dunno, trying to find out now
[19:11] <clivejo> Ive noticed that in a few apps packages
[19:14] <yofel> hm, nothing in akonadi-search got bumped
[19:15] <acheronuk> that's why I was trying to fix kldap
[19:17] <acheronuk> kdepimlibs has a dep wait on that
[19:19] <yofel> bump-build-dep-versions works fine if I run it by hand...
[19:19] <yofel> maybe this package ended up in manual and nobody did the build-dep bumps
[19:27] <yofel> clivejo: did you get anywhere with the tagging?
[19:44] <yofel> 00:30:34 dpkg-buildflags --export=make > debian/dhmk_env.mk
[19:44] <yofel> 00:30:34 make: *** Cannot allocate memory.  Stop.
[19:44] <yofel> 00:30:34 dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules clean gave error exit status 2
[19:44] <yofel> 00:30:34 chown -R jenkins:jenkins /var/lib/jenkins/workspaces/yakkety/unstable/extra-cmake-modules
[19:44] <yofel> wtf?!?
[19:52]  * yofel doesn't see the server ever running low on memory
[20:01] <mamarley> clivejo: Going fine.  No problems to report. :)
[20:02] <soee> :)
[20:02] <soee> clivejo: staging FW 5.24?
[20:03] <yofel> I wonder if we could set up a bunch of jenkins executors on that linode
[20:04] <clivejo> soee: no
[20:04] <clivejo> I cant get the tagging script to *beeping* work
[20:05] <yofel> running it onw
[20:05] <yofel> *now even
[20:06] <clivejo> how?!?
[20:06] <yofel> ./ubuntu-archive-upload -r frameworks -v 5.23 -t /tmp/fw523/
[20:06] <clivejo> and how did you get frameworks?
[20:06] <yofel> what do you mean?
[20:07] <clivejo> how did you get /tmp/fk523
[20:07] <yofel> mkdir /tmp/fw523
[20:07] <yofel> nothing in there at the beginning
[20:07] <clivejo> :P very funny!
[20:07] <yofel> what, you asked me what I did :P
[20:08] <soee> :D
[20:09] <clivejo> you give it a blank folder to work with?
[20:09] <clivejo> I thought it needed the git frameworks
[20:10] <clivejo> nope
[20:10] <clivejo> blank folder is throwing errors too
[20:13] <clivejo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19109575/
[20:16] <yofel> clivejo:     subprocess.check_call(["pull-ppa-source", "-d", ppaString, package, release])
[20:16] <yofel> -> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[20:16] <yofel> pull-ppa-source is in your PATH, yes?
[20:16] <clivejo> in what directory?
[20:17] <yofel> $PATH
[20:17] <yofel> has to be reachable by that
[20:17] <clivejo> where does that live?
[20:17] <yofel> kubuntu-dev-tools
[20:18] <clivejo> there be my problem
[20:19] <yofel> feel free to try and tag plasma if you want. I'm still on frameworks
[20:31] <yofel> clivejo: frameworks tagged and pushed
[20:31] <yofel> are you on plasma?
[20:31] <clivejo> grrrrr
[20:32] <clivejo> still getting this error
[20:32] <clivejo> can I see your $PATH
[20:35] <yofel> I used a symlink in ~/bin
[20:35] <yofel> lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel 53 Nov 22  2015 /home/yofel/bin/pull-ppa-source -> /home/yofel/src/kubuntu-dev-tools/bin/pull-ppa-source
[20:36] <clivejo> doesnt say that in the *beeping* instructions!
[20:43] <clivejo> oh its in bin
[20:44] <valorie> I certainly will sponsor acheronuk/Rik for a KDE developer account 
[20:45] <valorie> gotta start with an https://identity.kde.org/ account first, then bump to devel
[20:46] <clivejo> yofel: should these be uploaded to staging?
[20:47] <yofel> no. Theoretically they should be uploaded to archive, but I don't want to deal with that currently
[20:47] <yofel> hm, might as well stage frameworks while I'm here
[20:47] <yofel> how did that go again..
[20:48] <clivejo> good idea
[20:48] <clivejo> maybe wipe the staging and copy another set of Qt from Riks PPA
[20:49] <yofel> did he update something?
[20:49] <clivejo> no, just frameworks build weird last time
[20:49] <clivejo> blue installed them on his system and broke it
[20:49] <yofel> hm
[20:49] <yofel> ah, that'll be the private abi probably
[20:50] <yofel> don't use those packages without a full QA run over everything
[20:50] <clivejo> I did say to remove staging PPA, but he mustnt have listened
[20:51] <clivejo> so this script can be used on an existing workspace git area?
[20:52] <yofel> no
[20:52] <yofel> well, technically yes - it'll simply delete what's in the way
[20:52] <yofel> so it doesn't make a difference
[20:53] <clivejo> might save my bandwidth if the source tarballs are athere
[20:53] <clivejo> Ill try it next time
[20:53] <yofel> yeah, the script doesn't work like that. It intentionally makes sure that no existing data is there
[20:53] <yofel> user your container :P
[20:54] <clivejo> is it setup now?
[20:55] <yofel> well, it's running
[20:55] <clivejo> how do I access it?
[20:55] <yofel> FWIW, now that you have a host account, you could just 'lxc exec kde-apps bash' into it
[20:55] <yofel> otherwise with the ssh information aaron gave you
[20:55] <clivejo> I could what now?
[20:55] <yofel> erm, give me a sec
[20:56] <yofel> I'll look up the info again
[20:56] <clivejo> can we point kubuntu.org dns at it?
[20:56] <yofel> clivejo: ssh -p 4242 -u ubuntu@139.162.164.207
[20:56] <yofel> no
[20:56] <clivejo> why not?
[20:56] <yofel> talk to canonical IS if you want that
[20:57] <yofel> kubuntu.co.uk would be easier I guess
[20:57] <yofel> I just make an entry in my ssh config so I don't forget the IP
[20:57] <yofel> *made
[20:57] <clivejo> ssh ubuntu@dev.kubuntu.org would be lot easier to remember!
[20:58] <clivejo> Permission denied (publickey).
[20:59] <yofel> Riddell: kubuntu.co.uk was owned by you?
[21:00] <clivejo> ok in
[21:00] <yofel> great, now you can beta test the container :P
[21:00] <clivejo> ubuntu@kde-apps $ beta test
[21:00] <clivejo> beta: command not found
[21:00] <yofel> lol
[21:01] <Riddell> yofel: still is by the looks of it, it's what I had to use to launch kubuntu
[21:01] <clivejo> wont work yofel
[21:01] <yofel> Riddell: can you add other IPs for subdomains or is that a single-domain account?
[21:03] <Riddell> yofel: I can add anything https://paste.kde.org/pyail50wz
[21:04] <yofel> Riddell: could you please make 'dev' point to 139.162.164.207 / 2a01:7e01::f03c:91ff:fe9b:78da
[21:04] <Riddell> hmm dunno if it can do ip6
[21:05] <yofel> v6 would be 'AAAA'
[21:05] <Riddell> oh yes it can, clever
[21:05] <Riddell> yofel: done
[21:06] <clivejo> grrr
[21:06] <yofel> Riddell: thanks a lot!
[21:06] <yofel> guess we'll find out how well it works after the update
[21:06] <clivejo> how many errors can one script throw
[21:06] <yofel> XD
[21:06] <yofel> "lots"? :P
[21:07] <clivejo> subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['git', 'clone', 'git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-discover', 'git']' returned non-zero exit status 128
[21:07] <yofel> o.O
[21:07] <yofel> ssh key missing?
[21:07] <clivejo> nope
[21:07] <clivejo> it was working til that point
[21:08] <clivejo> what do we have it in LP as?
[21:08] <yofel> or launchpad timed out..
[21:08] <yofel> oh
[21:08] <yofel> discover
[21:08] <yofel> yeah, that should be cloning 'discover'
[21:08] <yofel> how did that break again *-.-
[21:11] <clivejo> this logic confusses me
[21:11] <clivejo> upstream-names.json has an entry     "plasma-discover": "discover",
[21:12] <clivejo> upstream here means KDE
[21:12] <yofel> $ host dev.kubuntu.co.uk
[21:12] <yofel> dev.kubuntu.co.uk has address 139.162.164.207
[21:12] <yofel> dev.kubuntu.co.uk has IPv6 address 2a01:7e01::f03c:91ff:fe9b:78da
[21:12] <yofel> yay
[21:13] <clivejo> yofel can git store a symlink?
[21:13] <yofel> I think so
[21:13] <yofel> discover is one of those double-converted packages because it doesn't fit into the proper package scheme
[21:14] <yofel> and nobody ever changed the scripts to properly support that
[21:14] <clivejo> what should its git name be?
[21:14] <yofel> discover
[21:15] <clivejo> why do debian have it as plasma-discover?
[21:15] <clivejo> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/plasma-discover.git/
[21:15] <yofel> uhm
[21:15] <yofel> dunno
[21:15] <clivejo> shouldnt we follow that?
[21:15] <yofel> debian does weird things
[21:16] <clivejo> LOL
[21:17]  * yofel is too tired to properly answer that
[21:25]  * genii sips and ponders the Debian weirdos
[21:27] <valorie> !
[21:27] <yofel> FWIW, plasma-discover is probably the correct thing to use
[21:27] <yofel> lets talk about that tomorrow
[21:27] <valorie> I think there is already another package named discover
[21:27] <valorie> same with spectacle
[21:27] <clivejo> can I rename it in LP, to get this script to finish
[21:28] <yofel> no, you'll break the CI and other scripts
[21:29] <yofel> just make the script override the name
[21:29] <clivejo> I think Ive had enough for tonight as well!
[21:31] <yofel> FW 5.24 up
[21:32] <yofel> oh right. ahoneybun: thanks to clive having ideas and thanks to jonathan the linode is now called dev.kubuntu.co.uk
[21:33] <valorie> woooo
[21:38] <santa_> yofel: just a quick question, you are still using the old monolithic scripts in KA right?
[21:38] <yofel> santa_: for the bulk work, yes
[21:39] <santa_> ok, I will try to resume the new design implementation then
[21:39] <santa_> just got a look to the git-clone-all changes
[21:39] <yofel> I never had enough spare time to figure out how to use your tooling and still make sure that all required steps are done
[21:39] <santa_> I guess I will dig more tomorrow
[21:40] <santa_> yeah, I will be around when stuff is ready to be used
[21:59] <valorie> wb santa_
[21:59] <valorie> we've missed ya
[21:59] <santa_> thank you
[22:00] <valorie> are you coming to Akademy/qtcon?
[22:01] <santa_> I don't think so, but we will see
[22:02] <santa_> I have various things to sort out
[22:02] <valorie> boo
[22:02] <santa_> haha
[22:02] <valorie> IRC is always a substitute for face to face
[22:02] <valorie> but eventually we'll get together again
[22:03] <santa_> sure, one convention or another...
[22:10] <valorie> I usually get to europe only once per year
[22:11] <valorie> it is a long flight all the way across the US and the atlantic!
[22:11] <valorie> will be easier this time because I'm stopping in NYC for a few days with my youngest and his hubby
[22:40] <mparillo> I can confirm that this is good in YY: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-framework/+bug/1560404/comments/5