[01:58] how do I do the su thing? [01:58] I get authentication failure [01:59] why use su instead of sudo? [01:59] doing a lot of tasks? [01:59] yes [02:01] I'm using my only password that I started with for installation [02:24] Can someone help me get the "su" password to work? === imr is now known as JoJce === JoJce is now known as imr === imr is now known as EarRape === EarRape is now known as imr [02:30] bunjee: Are you on the liveUSB, or in your installed system...? [02:32] installed [02:33] bunjee: So you're not "satisfied" with just making use of "sudo" to accomplish "root" tasks? [02:34] can I do root tasks without the "su"? [02:35] bunjee: Yes, mate...by using "sudo" - which should already be setup for you automagically by the system when you installed it...in a terminal, type: "man sudo" => amazing simple means by which to do "root" things... [02:38] OK.....thank you sir....I will read on.... [04:19] I cannot install ttf-corefonts-installer. Got error : [04:20] W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/andale32.exe' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Keine Berechtigung) === jayhunold is now known as jhunold [06:32] 1 [08:10] hi. I get no avi or mkv preview in dolphin under kubuntu 16.04. I activated it in dolphins settings, put up the max size for videos. and I installed ffmpegthumbs and ffmpegthumbnailer and also kffmpegthumbnailer. [08:10] any ideas? [08:18] pragomer_1: hiho [08:19] there was but that is fixed in apps 16.04.2 i think [08:19] so it should work when we release those via Kubuntu backports [08:19] there is also workaround if you want it "noe" [08:19] *now [08:19] there was bug [08:21] pragomer_1: you can execute this command to make it works: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/* /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/ [08:35] mm.. now sounds good :-) [08:36] wow... that linking worked.. thank you so so much for this fast and simple solution :-) [08:45] kubuntu really rocks *thumbsup* [08:47] also, do you have backports ppa enabled ? [08:49] mm.. dont have any backports.. I heard using backports is not really recommend.. dont know if that is right.. [08:53] pragomer_1: in the case of 16.04, backports is kinda needed for a more stable experience [08:55] oh ok.. so.. sure.. I can try that.. how to do that? I mean.. kubuntu really had some stability problems in the past.. anyway.. I switched from ubuntu unity / gnome to kubuntu since 15.10.. and I really like it.. [08:55] so if a backport will stable it more.. lets go [08:55] how to do that? [08:56] plasmashell --version shows me 5.5.5 [08:56] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [08:56] sudo apt update [08:56] sudo apt full-upgrade [08:56] what version will i get then? [08:56] http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-5-and-frameworks-5-23-now-in-backports-for-kubuntu-16-04/ [08:57] and is only the kde desktop upgraded but also apps? [08:57] Apps 16.05 aren't yet in backports [08:57] *16.04 [08:57] and I wont get some "new stability" problems, you are sure? ;-) [08:58] nope [08:58] ok, then I try it here on my productive system.. [08:58] will give you a feedback.. [08:58] ok :) === dv__ is now known as dv_ [09:16] Good morning. === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [10:32] hello. I am using a UHD laptop screen with 1920x1080 external monitor. After updating drivers, the one-liner I usually used to setup the external monitor's resolution stopped working. [10:32] Pasting it right now. [10:32] http://hastebin.com/aputagepam.vhdl === muhammad is now known as Bloke [10:53] http://hastebin.com/ohihigukun.vhdl am I doing something wrong? [10:55] marahin: what gpu/driver is this? [10:55] hateball, 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M] (rev a2) [10:56] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06) [10:56] xrandr program version 1.5.0, nvidia drivers 367 [10:56] hmmm, strange [10:56] any reason you're not using nvidia-settings to configure? [10:57] hateball, uh... [10:57] hateball, it doesn't recognize screens properly [10:58] odd [10:58] and also I _need_ the scaling option. Using internal UHD laptop's screen & external fullhd one [10:59] it should noted that multimonitor support on 16.04 is sketchy unless using the backports ppa [10:59] but that's more stuff like panels moving about [10:59] only got intel on this workmachine so I can't try reproducing your stuff right now :/ [11:00] hateball, last time I tried backports ppa (week ago) _everything_ broke ;) [11:01] :D [11:01] oh well, stick around I guess [11:30] how do I toggle vi input mode with keyboard in kate in kubnutu [11:34] aiena: ctrl+shift+v [11:37] thanks [11:50] @hateball @marahim thanks, I just entered to make some questions regarding backports and multimonitor and you already gave me the answers :D [11:51] heh :) === acheronuk is now known as evil_acheron === evil_acheron is now known as mean_acheron === mean_acheron is now known as acheronuk [12:19] Silly question.... would you expect it to take up to 10 minutes to format a 32gb USB stick with the EXT2 FS (replacing FAT32) ? [12:20] With Kubuntu Partition manager that is... Kinda just stuck at 50% for a while now [12:21] no idea really, have not used ext2 for a long time === chiknrub is now known as chcknrub === link is now known as Manitou === Manitou is now known as SonnyLanning [13:07] So... is this a happening place? === link is now known as SonnyLanning [14:03] hi [14:03] I noticed this weird issue in kde 5.6.5(kubuntu 16.04). Please have a look https://bugs.launchpad.net/variety/+bug/1589790 [14:03] Launchpad bug 1589790 in Variety "Some wallpapers are displayed as black backgrounds in kde" [Undecided,New] [14:48] Apologies for stupid question: but why is it that Discover never finds any packages when I use the search box? [14:49] e.g. "aptitude search jenkins" finds about 2 dozen packages, but typing "jenkins" into discover finds nothing. [14:53] Muon Discover is more of an app store. Regular old Muon is a package manager. So packages that are not considered Apps (including missing AppStream data (I think)) are not searchable in Muon Discover. [14:55] marco-parillo: Thanks! [14:55] But.... There's no muon in the kubuntu menus, only Discover! [14:56] rpg: plasma-discover has been broken since 16.04 release [14:57] Also, AFAICT muon doesn't exist. Or at least typing "muon" at the search bar gives me nothing. [14:57] Right, you need to sudo apt update && sudo apt install muon -y [14:57] I can use aptitude, but this seems really stupid. [14:57] this is know bug [14:58] Regular Muon is not shipped with Kubuntu IIRC. [14:58] marco-parillo: Thanks again, this really helps. [14:58] In fact there is somebody here (I forget who) who regularly advises people to stick with regular Muon. [14:59] For everything, not just what you cannot find in Discover. [15:00] i looked up a bug report about plasma-discover some weeks ago [15:01] Another question (I hope quick): do I have to specially configure the sources to get jenkins? [15:01] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/1577918 [15:01] Launchpad bug 1577918 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Discover search returns no results" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:01] so i'm hoping it gets fixed by 21st july [15:04] #docker [15:21] rpg: What does apt-cache policy jenkins return? [15:28] marco-parillo: Looks like I have to manually add a new apt source for Jenkins. [15:28] Doing that fixes the problem. [15:28] I suppose there's some organizational reason why ubuntu cannot include jenkins. [15:31] last version was precise https://launchpad.net/jenkins , follow https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Installing+Jenkins+on+Ubuntu [15:38] OerHeks: Yes, the jenkins-ci.org page is what I used for instructions. Don't know why jenkins couldn't be included in Ubuntu sources, but I'm sure there's some reason. [15:48] Help. After my upgrade, when I start programs I get: Configuration file not writable. Please contact your system administrator. [15:48] How do I resolve this system wide? [15:48] Or Rather user wide, as I am the only user on this system. [15:50] bjrohan: without knowing what happened, it's safe to run "sudo chown -R username /home/username" [15:52] akik: Thank you. While upgrading from 15.04 to 16.04 with a stop at 15.10, the upgrade via GUI stopped towards the end, presumbaly because it was waiting from user input on CLI, which I couldn't give. I had to shut dow the system mid upgrade and continue on reboot [15:52] That is my best guess as to what caused this mess now :-) [15:56] akik: I assume this changes the hidden / config files as well? [15:56] bjrohan: yes the whole home dir [15:56] Thanks [15:57] bjrohan: but it could be that your install is broken. does it give weird error messages? [15:57] That command didn't give any error message. It has completed, but I just tried to start Konsole and received: [15:57] Configuration file "/home/bjrohan/.config/rc" not writable. [15:57] Please contact your system administrator. [15:58] Then konsole started [15:58] bjrohan: so what's the permissions on rc? [15:59] maybe it's missing w-bit on some dir/file [15:59] akik: honestly what's relaly odd, I did this upgrade 3 days ago, I've been using the system since then and didn't received this message until a few minutes ago. I get this on every program I start, even ones I ran uesterday that didn't cause this [16:01] akik: Something is messed up! That file doesn't exist in .config [16:02] bjrohan: i don't have it either on kubuntu 16.04 [16:03] I just tried to download a file via chromium, which I also did yesterday, it says insuffecient permissions. [16:04] bjrohan: if you touch /home/bjrohan/.config/rc does it work then without errors? [16:05] akik: touch: cannot touch '/home/bjrohan/.config/rc': Read-only file system [16:05] bjrohan: oh wow [16:06] bjrohan: is /home in your under your root file system? [16:06] I'm afraid to do a reboo [16:06] akik: yes [16:06] bjrohan: the chown command should've errored out too [16:06] bjrohan: you can try "sudo mount -o remount,rw /" [16:07] akik: no error when I did that, however it didn't change anything [16:09] ls -la in /home shows: drwxr-xr-x 179 bjrohan bjrohan 20480 Jul 10 16:17 bjrohan [16:09] bjrohan: did you run the mount command? [16:09] akik: ^ [16:09] akik: I did [16:10] akik: When I ran it, I didn't get any error message, but starting konsole gave me the same error msg about rc [16:11] bjrohan: sorry out of ideas [16:11] akik: what could go wrong if I reboot? [16:12] bjrohan: maybe you could get more help at #ubuntu [16:12] Will do === shawn is now known as Guest27939 === roah_ is now known as roah [17:25] hi, I'm running kubuntu 14.04, is it possible to install kde plasma 5, such that I can choose between plasma 4 and 5 at login? [17:26] nope [17:26] alas, thanks [17:31] do I understand correctly that if I were to install, for example, LXDE on top of kubuntu 14.04, then in that case I would be able to switch desktop environments at login? [17:32] io_silver: yes, should work [17:36] But unless you are really talented, you might install more than just the DE. You might have separate programs with duplicate aims for terminal emulation programs, file managers, music players. [17:40] i see, and that would bleed over across the various desktops. I could in theory get around that by creating a separate user account for the other desktop environment? [17:41] no, the kde apps would still be there, i see [18:37] Is there a lightweight alternative to dolphin? [18:37] * nlsthzn covers his dolphin installs ears... [18:38] anabain: sounds like you need a lighter desktop environment [18:39] BluesKaj, I need dolphin not freezing, actually, but I'm fed up with it. MOre exactly, I'm fed up with 16.04 [18:40] anabain: I have to ask, have you updated/upgraded to the latest packages? [18:40] of course [18:41] I had to ask, not all users do so [18:41] BluesKaj, ok, excuse me. BTW, may I ask you a question? Do you really think 16.04 is a release distro? [18:42] do you have the the proprietary driver installed for your gpu ? [18:43] other than intel [18:43] * nlsthzn is finding kubuntu 16.04 + backports rock solid... very best KDE 5 experience by far [18:45] I have a radeon video card, which had some issues. I had to disable vsync for the compositor, otherwise I experience awful/unusable desktop behaviour, because there was no refresh [18:45] ni letś not talk about , personal experience ẅorks for for me", that doesn help anyone [18:45] nlsthzn: ^ [18:45] BluesKaj, xserver-xorg-video-radeon is installed. [18:46] * nlsthzn wasn't trying to help ;) [18:46] BluesKaj, and radeon module is in use. [18:48] anabain: what rendering are you using in the compositor ? [18:50] nsnzero, I think I don't fully understand you. Do you mean OpenGL 2.0 /GLX ? [18:51] anabain: yes - try enabling your vsync with a different renderer - i had problems with opengl2 [18:51] ok [18:51] thanks for the hint [18:53] no problem [18:54] nsnzero, it seems 3.1 + EGL works quite well, but what should I pay attention to to get the best settings? [18:55] anabain: try 2.0 with full screen repaints, don't pay attention to the warning [18:55] lethu, I tried it and it worked incredibly slowly [18:55] anabain: 3.1 has poor performance with 3d applications [18:55] anabain: install the xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu [18:56] anabain: oh, that's the setting I have, it works ok [18:56] anabain: also have amd gpu [18:56] anabain: maybe model specific issue [18:57] BluesKaj, it's already installed, but radeon is the module in use. How can I ensure the modern driver will be used? [18:57] lethu, could be, I also think so... [18:58] anabain: remove the radeon driver [18:58] ok [19:00] BluesKaj, dpkg -P xserver-xorg-video-radeon , right? [19:00] dpkg -r [19:02] ok [19:02] BluesKaj: wont the driver manager be easier to use to remove it ? [19:02] no need to purge [19:04] all package managers includng apt, the gui managers etv all use dpkg to manage packages [19:08] BluesKaj: I was on here earlier, and akik was helping me with an issue, that I'm hoping you can give insight to [19:09] hi rohan_ , whatś up? [19:09] BluesKaj: I upgraded my system from 15.04 to 16.04 a few days ago. It has stopped when updating to 15.10 via gui waiting for input, I got through that and finished to 16.05 [19:10] BluesKaj: all was fine for a few days of use, then earlier today, out of the blue when I started program i got an error message for all of them that it couldn't access different files [19:11] BluesKaj: the driver manager does not work in 16.04 - i have forgotten what its does - thanks for the clarity [19:12] rohan, how did you uprade from 15.04, itś EOL [19:15] BluesKaj: but the program would start. In Chromium I tried downloading a file, but said I don't have user permissions. akik had me change all permissions on my home file, but that didn't help [19:15] nsnzero: yes, but thatś a system settings problem , not the package manager afiak [19:15] BluesKaj: I upgraded by first using Muon update to update my packages [19:15] BluesKaj: then to get to 15.10, I used Muon to get the upgrade [19:15] to go from 15.10 to 16.04 from cli I ran to do-release-upgrade I beleive [19:16] from 15.04 rohan_ ? i dont see how thatś possible [19:16] BluesKaj: Now the computer won't start. I'm not in front of it right now though, on here now looking for insite [19:17] from 15.10 yes , that makes sense [19:17] BluesKaj: when I would open Muon update on 15.04, at the top it would let me know there was an upgrade [19:17] rohan_: when was this ? [19:18] last Thursday [19:18] BluesKaj, when trying to remove the radeon driver it says xserver-xorg-video-ati depends on it? Can/Should I uninstall it too? [19:18] no [19:18] anabain: [19:19] BluesKaj: FWIW my system is dual boot with Win 8.1, and my Linux install is done over several partitions, with home having its own [19:20] BluesKaj: Since my 16.04 had been working okay from what I could tell until this AM, could I simply do an install from a live CD without a format? [19:20] BluesKaj, what? [19:21] sorry rohan Iǘe never hear do of a successful release-upgrade from a dead OS to an active one, if you sed the sources.list or sopem such ., perhaps that would work , but not having the latest upgraded packages is a risky if not fatal exercise. [19:22] anabain: don remove the ati [19:22] don [19:23] do not [19:23] my KB battery is dying [19:23] BluesKaj, then what's the command? [19:24] sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu [19:26] BluesKaj: What are your thoughts on doing an install from a live usb, matching up the partitions, and NOT doing a format? [19:28] no need to match up partitions, rohan_ , just use usb /disk creator dd to inage the usb stick [19:28] or dd [19:29] brb , have to replace some batteries [19:30] i think rohan_ meant installing over your previous installation without initializing the file system [19:32] akik: I'would like to know how he managd to upgrade from 15.04 without doing a clean install to 16.04 [19:32] hello [19:32] * rattking wonders how apt will like having all its files orphaned [19:33] akik initializing the file system? [19:34] I'm trying to run a plasmoid on Kubuntu 16.04 , who requires a python engine. But I don't find the plasma-scriptengine-python package ,how i can run a plasmoid based on python ? [19:34] this was his previous explanation [19:34] 02:01 < bjrohan> Hello all. Tried upgrading from 15.04 to 16.04 with the required 15.10. In upgrading to 15.10, I had to [19:34] leave my box, when I came back it was stuck at libsane, and the comp was locked up. I was able to shut it [19:34] down and restart into 15.10, however the upgrade didn't finish of course. What do I need to do [19:34] 02:02 < bjrohan> in order to finish 15.10 and continue on to 16.04 [19:36] BluesKaj: i meant not initializing (=mkfs) the target partition [19:37] akik, iĺ let you carry theball on this one, upgrading fron EOL is almost impossibel to do cleanly...noe he has to deal with the consequences ...recommend a clean install to / and creat a /home partition will make upgrades to new release much easier [19:38] BluesKaj: that's what he's planning to do. install 16.04 over the current installation [19:39] i don't know why he doesn't want to format the partition though [19:41] rohan_: why don't you want to format the target partition? [19:41] akik: then use gparted to make 2 ext4 partitions, one 15G for/ and anything over 60G for home should suffice for most users unless they store all their media on a the /home then use whatever is needed [19:45] I'm getting a kernel panic only when trying to boot on battery, is the output logged somewhere for when I boot connected to AC? I think the message I need is just offscreen === BluesKaj is now known as Blues-away [19:49] BluesKaj: akik I don't want to lose my personal data (/home), but also any program config info. If doing a clean install with formatting on everything but /home will suffice I'll do it [20:05] akik: Given mu situation, should I simply install 16.04 from LiveUSB, and while installing, make sure that I just don't format the /home. Also just make sure I use same name and password correct? [20:05] rohan_: i'm not sure what you meant by the program config info [20:06] rohan_: installing an operating system might overwrite files [20:06] rohan_: it's quite certain that program config info will be overwritten [20:06] Programs like Chromium with the bookmarks, etc. I also have to adjust audio settings to get the beats audio to work. Would all that be stored in my home directory? [20:06] rohan_: but yes there's an option not to format the target partition [20:07] akik: Should I just not format my /home partition, or not format all partitions? [20:07] rohan_: how many partition have you allocated to ubuntu? [20:08] rohan_: you can select in "something else" that you don't format the partitions [20:08] I'm not in front of the machine to look, at least a /home partition and a /boot partition [20:09] rohan_: i have no idea about beats audio. chromium's user data will be in your home dir [20:09] akik: I had to adjust the pulse audio I believe [20:19] Hello, I am on 14.04 and need to connect smartphone in MTP mode, it does not work out of the box, it worked right after i installed libmtp-common mtp-tools libmtp-dev libmtp-runtime libmtp9 but ceased to work after reboot. Any idea? [20:29] How can I change KDE's panel color? [20:29] As I set my theme to breeze-dark it's blazingly bright, the default one [20:32] In order to solve some video card issues on 16.04, I've been told to remove xserver-xorg-video-radeon and use xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu instead. dpkg -r xserver-xorg-video-radeon does not work because xserver-xorg-video-ati depends on it, and I've also been told not to remove the ati package. What can I do, then? [20:32] marahin: it should work [20:32] are you on 16.04 with backport enabled ? [20:33] soee, I do not know about the backports; how can I check that? [20:35] marahin: what plasma version do you have ? [20:36] soee, actually I just had to switch to Breeze, apply, set to Breeze-dark, apply - and it worked this time with the panel [20:36] so I believe it was just some kind of a bug [20:37] ✘ marahin@resp4wn  ~  plasmashell -v [20:37] plasmashell 5.5.5 [20:37] soee, ^ [20:37] so you dont have backports [20:37] I believe so :) [20:37] And I rather not add them - last time I did it kinda messed everything up. [20:37] http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-5-and-frameworks-5-23-now-in-backports-for-kubuntu-16-04/ [20:37] this should only help [20:37] it is more stable and has a lot of bugfixes [20:38] Backports are stable-er? Why didn't they make it to repositories then? (: [20:38] Ubuntu policy [20:38] Just "baiting" haha. I will check this out defintely, thank you for your time soee and have a nice evening (or day)! [21:51] have anyone tested Plasma 5.7.0 in 16.04 yet? === julia is now known as Guest16955 === julia is now known as Guest92260 === julia is now known as Guest11611 [22:32] plusEV: we have a testing group [22:32] wanna be a part of it? [22:32] * valorie hasn't had time for that yet [22:33] and there is neon, which is based on 16.04 [22:33] they are getting ready for 5.7.1 I believe === ubuntu is now known as Guest10156