[01:58] <bunjee> how do I do the su thing?
[01:58] <bunjee> I get authentication failure
[01:59] <MichaelTunnell> why use su instead of sudo?
[01:59] <MichaelTunnell> doing a lot of tasks?
[01:59] <bunjee> yes
[02:01] <bunjee> I'm using my only password that I started with for installation
[02:24] <bunjee> Can someone help me get the "su" password to work?
[02:30] <YankDownUnder> bunjee: Are you on the liveUSB, or in your installed system...?
[02:32] <bunjee> installed
[02:33] <YankDownUnder> bunjee: So you're not "satisfied" with just making use of "sudo" to accomplish "root" tasks?
[02:34] <bunjee> can I do root tasks without the "su"?
[02:35] <YankDownUnder> bunjee: Yes, mate...by using "sudo" - which should already be setup for you automagically by the system when you installed it...in a terminal, type: "man sudo" => amazing simple means by which to do "root" things...
[02:38] <bunjee> OK.....thank you sir....I will read on....
[04:19] <pragomer_1> I cannot install ttf-corefonts-installer. Got error :
[04:20] <pragomer_1> W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/andale32.exe' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Keine Berechtigung)
[06:32] <viewer|16312> 1
[08:10] <pragomer_1> hi. I get no avi or mkv preview in dolphin under kubuntu 16.04. I activated it in dolphins settings, put up the max size for videos. and I installed ffmpegthumbs and ffmpegthumbnailer and also kffmpegthumbnailer.
[08:10] <pragomer_1> any ideas?
[08:18] <soee> pragomer_1: hiho
[08:19] <soee> there was but that is fixed in apps 16.04.2 i think
[08:19] <soee> so it should work when we release  those via Kubuntu backports
[08:19] <soee> there is also workaround if you want it "noe"
[08:19] <soee> *now
[08:19] <soee> there was bug
[08:21] <soee> pragomer_1: you can execute this command to make it works: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/* /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/
[08:35] <pragomer_1> mm.. now sounds good :-)
[08:36] <pragomer_1> wow... that linking worked.. thank you so so much for this fast and simple solution :-)
[08:45] <pragomer_1> kubuntu really rocks *thumbsup*
[08:47] <soee> also, do you have backports ppa enabled ?
[08:49] <pragomer_1> mm.. dont have any backports.. I heard using backports is not really recommend.. dont know if that is right..
[08:53] <hateball> pragomer_1: in the case of 16.04, backports is kinda needed for a more stable experience
[08:55] <pragomer_1> oh ok.. so.. sure.. I can try that.. how to do that? I mean.. kubuntu really had some stability problems in the past.. anyway.. I switched from ubuntu unity / gnome to kubuntu since 15.10.. and I really like it..
[08:55] <pragomer_1> so if a backport will stable it more.. lets go
[08:55] <pragomer_1> how to do that?
[08:56] <pragomer_1> plasmashell --version shows me 5.5.5
[08:56] <soee> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[08:56] <soee> sudo apt update
[08:56] <soee> sudo apt full-upgrade
[08:56] <pragomer_1> what version will i get then?
[08:56] <soee> http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-5-and-frameworks-5-23-now-in-backports-for-kubuntu-16-04/
[08:57] <pragomer_1> and is only the kde desktop upgraded but also apps?
[08:57] <soee> Apps 16.05 aren't yet in backports
[08:57] <soee> *16.04
[08:57] <pragomer_1> and I wont get some "new stability" problems, you are sure? ;-)
[08:58] <soee> nope
[08:58] <pragomer_1> ok, then I try it here on my productive system..
[08:58] <pragomer_1> will give you a feedback..
[08:58] <soee> ok :)
[09:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:32] <marahin> hello. I am using a UHD laptop screen with 1920x1080 external monitor. After updating drivers, the one-liner I usually used to setup the external monitor's resolution stopped working.
[10:32] <marahin> Pasting it right now.
[10:32] <marahin> http://hastebin.com/aputagepam.vhdl
[10:53] <marahin> http://hastebin.com/ohihigukun.vhdl am I doing something wrong?
[10:55] <hateball> marahin: what gpu/driver is this?
[10:55] <marahin> hateball, 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M] (rev a2)
[10:56] <marahin> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[10:56] <marahin> xrandr program version       1.5.0, nvidia drivers 367
[10:56] <hateball> hmmm, strange
[10:56] <hateball> any reason you're not using nvidia-settings to configure?
[10:57] <marahin> hateball, uh...
[10:57] <marahin> hateball, it doesn't recognize screens properly
[10:58] <hateball> odd
[10:58] <marahin> and also I _need_ the scaling option. Using internal UHD laptop's screen & external fullhd one
[10:59] <hateball> it should noted that multimonitor support on 16.04 is sketchy unless using the backports ppa
[10:59] <hateball> but that's more stuff like panels moving about
[10:59] <hateball> only got intel on this workmachine so I can't try reproducing your stuff right now :/
[11:00] <marahin> hateball, last time I tried backports ppa (week ago) _everything_ broke ;)
[11:01] <hateball> :D
[11:01] <hateball> oh well, stick around I guess
[11:30] <aiena> how do I toggle vi input mode with keyboard in kate in kubnutu
[11:34] <hateball> aiena: ctrl+shift+v
[11:37] <aiena> thanks
[11:50] <otomo> @hateball @marahim thanks, I just entered  to make some questions regarding backports and multimonitor and you already gave me the answers :D
[11:51] <hateball> heh :)
[12:19] <hazamonzo> Silly question.... would you expect it to take up to 10 minutes to format a 32gb USB stick with the EXT2 FS (replacing FAT32) ?
[12:20] <hazamonzo> With Kubuntu Partition manager that is... Kinda just stuck at 50% for a while now
[12:21] <hateball> no idea really, have not used ext2 for a long time
[13:07] <SonnyLanning> So... is this a happening place?
[14:03] <paranoidabhi> hi
[14:03] <paranoidabhi> I noticed this weird issue in kde 5.6.5(kubuntu 16.04). Please have a look https://bugs.launchpad.net/variety/+bug/1589790
[14:48] <rpg> Apologies for stupid question: but why is it that Discover never finds any packages when I use the search box?
[14:49] <rpg> e.g. "aptitude search jenkins" finds about 2 dozen packages, but typing "jenkins" into discover finds nothing.
[14:53] <marco-parillo> Muon Discover is more of an app store. Regular old Muon is a package manager. So packages that are not considered Apps (including missing AppStream data (I think)) are not searchable in Muon Discover.
[14:55] <rpg> marco-parillo: Thanks!
[14:55] <rpg> But.... There's no muon in the kubuntu menus, only Discover!
[14:56] <akik> rpg: plasma-discover has been broken since 16.04 release
[14:57] <rpg> Also, AFAICT muon doesn't exist.  Or at least typing "muon" at the search bar gives me nothing.
[14:57] <marco-parillo> Right, you need to sudo apt update && sudo apt install muon -y
[14:57] <rpg> I can use aptitude, but this seems really stupid.
[14:57] <soee> this is know bug
[14:58] <marco-parillo> Regular Muon is not shipped with Kubuntu IIRC.
[14:58] <rpg> marco-parillo: Thanks again, this really helps.
[14:58] <marco-parillo> In fact there is somebody here (I forget who) who regularly advises people to stick with regular Muon.
[14:59] <marco-parillo> For everything, not just what you cannot find in Discover.
[15:00] <akik> i looked up a bug report about plasma-discover some weeks ago
[15:01] <rpg> Another question (I hope quick): do I have to specially configure the sources to get jenkins?
[15:01] <akik> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/1577918
[15:01] <akik> so i'm hoping it gets fixed by 21st july
[15:04] <gluwaile> #docker
[15:21] <marco-parillo> rpg: What does apt-cache policy jenkins return?
[15:28] <rpg> marco-parillo: Looks like I have to manually add a new apt source for Jenkins.
[15:28] <rpg> Doing that fixes the problem.
[15:28] <rpg> I suppose there's some organizational reason why ubuntu cannot include jenkins.
[15:31] <OerHeks> last version was precise https://launchpad.net/jenkins , follow https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Installing+Jenkins+on+Ubuntu
[15:38] <rpg> OerHeks: Yes, the jenkins-ci.org page is what I used for instructions.  Don't know why jenkins couldn't be included in Ubuntu sources, but I'm sure there's some reason.
[15:48] <bjrohan> Help. After my upgrade, when I start programs I get: Configuration file  not writable. Please contact your system administrator.
[15:48] <bjrohan> How do I resolve this system wide?
[15:48] <bjrohan> Or Rather user wide, as I am the only user on this system.
[15:50] <akik> bjrohan: without knowing what happened, it's safe to run "sudo chown -R username /home/username"
[15:52] <bjrohan> akik: Thank you. While upgrading from 15.04 to 16.04 with a stop at 15.10, the upgrade via GUI stopped towards the end, presumbaly because it was waiting from user input on CLI, which I couldn't give. I had to shut dow the system mid upgrade and continue on reboot
[15:52] <bjrohan> That is my best guess as to what caused this mess now :-)
[15:56] <bjrohan> akik: I assume this changes the hidden / config files as well?
[15:56] <akik> bjrohan: yes the whole home dir
[15:56] <bjrohan> Thanks
[15:57] <akik> bjrohan: but it could be that your install is broken. does it give weird error messages?
[15:57] <bjrohan>  That command didn't give any error message. It has completed, but I just tried to start Konsole and received:
[15:57] <bjrohan> Configuration file "/home/bjrohan/.config/rc" not writable.
[15:57] <bjrohan> Please contact your system administrator.
[15:58] <bjrohan> Then konsole started
[15:58] <akik> bjrohan: so what's the permissions on rc?
[15:59] <akik> maybe it's missing w-bit on some dir/file
[15:59] <bjrohan> akik: honestly what's relaly odd, I did this upgrade 3 days ago, I've been using the system since then and didn't received this message until a few minutes ago. I get this on every program I start, even ones I ran uesterday that didn't cause this
[16:01] <bjrohan> akik:  Something is messed up! That file doesn't exist in .config
[16:02] <akik> bjrohan: i don't have it either on kubuntu 16.04
[16:03] <bjrohan> I just tried to download a file via chromium, which I also did yesterday, it says insuffecient permissions.
[16:04] <akik> bjrohan: if you touch /home/bjrohan/.config/rc does it work then without errors?
[16:05] <bjrohan> akik: touch: cannot touch '/home/bjrohan/.config/rc': Read-only file system
[16:05] <akik> bjrohan: oh wow
[16:06] <akik> bjrohan: is /home in your under your root file system?
[16:06] <bjrohan> I'm afraid to do a reboo
[16:06] <bjrohan> akik: yes
[16:06] <akik> bjrohan: the chown command should've errored out too
[16:06] <akik> bjrohan: you can try "sudo mount -o remount,rw /"
[16:07] <bjrohan> akik: no error when I did that, however it didn't change anything
[16:09] <bjrohan> ls -la in /home shows: drwxr-xr-x 179 bjrohan bjrohan 20480 Jul 10 16:17 bjrohan
[16:09] <akik> bjrohan: did you run the mount command?
[16:09] <bjrohan> akik: ^
[16:09] <bjrohan> akik: I did
[16:10] <bjrohan> akik: When I ran it, I didn't get any error message, but starting konsole gave me the same error msg about rc
[16:11] <akik> bjrohan: sorry out of ideas
[16:11] <bjrohan> akik: what could go wrong if I reboot?
[16:12] <akik> bjrohan: maybe you could get more help at #ubuntu
[16:12] <bjrohan> Will do
[17:25] <io_silver> hi, I'm running kubuntu 14.04, is it possible to install kde plasma 5, such that I can choose between plasma 4 and 5 at login?
[17:26] <soee> nope
[17:26] <io_silver> alas, thanks
[17:31] <io_silver> do I understand correctly that if I were to install, for example, LXDE on top of kubuntu 14.04, then in that case I would be able to switch desktop environments at login?
[17:32] <soee> io_silver: yes, should work
[17:36] <marco-parillo> But unless you are really talented, you might install more than just the DE. You might have separate programs with duplicate aims for terminal emulation programs, file managers, music players.
[17:40] <io_silver> i see, and that would bleed over across the various desktops.  I could in theory get around that by creating a separate user account for the other desktop environment?
[17:41] <io_silver> no, the kde apps would still be there, i see
[18:37] <anabain> Is there a lightweight alternative to dolphin?
[18:37]  * nlsthzn covers his dolphin installs ears...
[18:38] <BluesKaj> anabain:  sounds like you need a lighter desktop environment
[18:39] <anabain> BluesKaj, I need dolphin not freezing, actually, but I'm fed up with it. MOre exactly, I'm fed up with 16.04
[18:40] <BluesKaj> anabain:  I have to ask, have you updated/upgraded to the latest packages?
[18:40] <anabain> of course
[18:41] <BluesKaj> I had to ask, not all users do so
[18:41] <anabain> BluesKaj, ok, excuse me. BTW, may I ask you a question? Do you really think 16.04 is a release distro?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> do you have the the proprietary driver installed for your gpu ?
[18:43] <BluesKaj> other than intel
[18:43]  * nlsthzn is finding kubuntu 16.04 + backports rock solid... very best KDE 5 experience by far
[18:45] <anabain> I have a radeon video card, which had some issues. I had to disable vsync for the compositor, otherwise I experience awful/unusable desktop behaviour, because there was no refresh
[18:45] <BluesKaj> ni letś not talk about , personal experience ẅorks for for me", that doesn help anyone
[18:45] <BluesKaj> nlsthzn: ^
[18:45] <anabain> BluesKaj, xserver-xorg-video-radeon is installed.
[18:46]  * nlsthzn wasn't trying to help ;)
[18:46] <anabain> BluesKaj, and radeon module is in use.
[18:48] <nsnzero> anabain: what rendering are you using in the compositor ?
[18:50] <anabain> nsnzero, I think I don't fully understand you. Do you mean OpenGL 2.0 /GLX ?
[18:51] <nsnzero> anabain: yes - try enabling your vsync with a different renderer - i had problems with opengl2
[18:51] <anabain> ok
[18:51] <anabain> thanks for the hint
[18:53] <nsnzero> no problem
[18:54] <anabain> nsnzero, it seems 3.1 + EGL works quite well, but what should I pay attention to to get the best settings?
[18:55] <lethu> anabain: try 2.0 with full screen repaints, don't pay attention to the warning
[18:55] <anabain> lethu, I tried it and it worked incredibly slowly
[18:55] <lethu> anabain: 3.1 has poor performance with 3d applications
[18:55] <BluesKaj> anabain: install the  xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[18:56] <lethu> anabain: oh, that's the setting I have, it works ok
[18:56] <lethu> anabain: also have amd gpu
[18:56] <lethu> anabain: maybe model specific issue
[18:57] <anabain> BluesKaj, it's already installed, but radeon is the module in use. How can I ensure the modern driver will be used?
[18:57] <anabain> lethu, could be, I also think so...
[18:58] <BluesKaj> anabain:  remove the radeon driver
[18:58] <anabain> ok
[19:00] <anabain> BluesKaj, dpkg -P xserver-xorg-video-radeon  , right?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> dpkg -r
[19:02] <anabain> ok
[19:02] <nsnzero> BluesKaj: wont the driver manager be easier to use to remove it ?
[19:02] <BluesKaj> no need to purge
[19:04] <BluesKaj> all package managers includng apt, the gui managers etv all use dpkg to manage packages
[19:08] <rohan_> BluesKaj: I was on here earlier, and akik was helping me with an issue, that I'm hoping you can give insight to
[19:09] <BluesKaj> hi rohan_ , whatś up?
[19:09] <rohan_> BluesKaj: I upgraded my system from 15.04 to 16.04 a few days ago. It has stopped when updating to 15.10 via gui waiting for input, I got through that and finished to 16.05
[19:10] <rohan_> BluesKaj: all was fine for a few days of use, then earlier today, out of the blue when I started program i got an error message for all of them that it couldn't access different files
[19:11] <nsnzero> BluesKaj: the driver manager does not work in 16.04 - i have forgotten what its does - thanks for the clarity
[19:12] <BluesKaj> rohan, how did you uprade from 15.04, itś EOL
[19:15] <rohan_> BluesKaj: but the program would start. In Chromium I tried downloading a file, but said I don't have user permissions. akik had me change all permissions on my home file, but that didn't help
[19:15] <BluesKaj> nsnzero:  yes, but thatś a system settings problem , not the package manager afiak
[19:15] <rohan_> BluesKaj: I upgraded by first using Muon update to update my packages
[19:15] <rohan_> BluesKaj: then to get to 15.10, I used Muon to get the upgrade
[19:15] <rohan_> to go from 15.10 to 16.04 from cli I ran to do-release-upgrade I beleive
[19:16] <BluesKaj> from 15.04 rohan_ ? i dont see how thatś possible
[19:16] <rohan_> BluesKaj: Now the computer won't start. I'm not in front of it right now though, on here now looking for insite
[19:17] <BluesKaj> from 15.10 yes , that makes sense
[19:17] <rohan_> BluesKaj: when I would open Muon update on 15.04, at the top it would let me know there was an upgrade
[19:17] <BluesKaj> rohan_:  when was this ?
[19:18] <rohan_> last Thursday
[19:18] <anabain> BluesKaj, when trying to remove the radeon driver it says xserver-xorg-video-ati depends on it? Can/Should I uninstall it too?
[19:18] <BluesKaj> no
[19:18] <BluesKaj> anabain:
[19:19] <rohan_> BluesKaj: FWIW my system is dual boot with Win 8.1, and my Linux install is done over several partitions, with home having its own
[19:20] <rohan_> BluesKaj: Since my 16.04 had been working okay from what I could tell until this AM, could I simply do an install from a  live CD without a format?
[19:20] <anabain> BluesKaj, what?
[19:21] <BluesKaj> sorry rohan Iǘe never hear do of a successful release-upgrade from a dead OS to an active one, if you sed the sources.list or sopem such ., perhaps that would work , but not having the latest upgraded packages  is a risky if  not fatal exercise.
[19:22] <BluesKaj> anabain:  don remove the ati
[19:22] <BluesKaj> don
[19:23] <BluesKaj> do not
[19:23] <BluesKaj> my KB battery is dying
[19:23] <anabain> BluesKaj, then what's the command?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[19:26] <rohan_> BluesKaj: What are your thoughts on doing an install from a live usb, matching up the partitions, and NOT doing a format?
[19:28] <BluesKaj> no need to match up partitions, rohan_ , just use usb /disk creator dd to inage the usb stick
[19:28] <BluesKaj> or dd
[19:29] <BluesKaj> brb , have to replace some batteries
[19:30] <akik> i think rohan_ meant installing over your previous installation without initializing the file system
[19:32] <BluesKaj> akik:  I'would like to know how he managd to upgrade from 15.04 without doing a clean install to 16.04
[19:32] <jmzc> hello
[19:32]  * rattking wonders how apt will like having all its files orphaned
[19:33] <BluesKaj> akik initializing the file system?
[19:34] <jmzc> I'm trying to run a plasmoid on Kubuntu 16.04 , who requires a python engine. But I don't find the plasma-scriptengine-python package ,how i can run a plasmoid based on python ?
[19:34] <akik> this was his previous explanation
[19:34] <akik> 02:01 < bjrohan> Hello all. Tried upgrading from 15.04 to 16.04 with the required 15.10. In upgrading to 15.10, I had to
[19:34] <akik>                  leave my box, when I came back it was stuck at libsane, and the comp was locked up. I was able to shut it
[19:34] <akik>                  down and restart into 15.10, however the upgrade didn't finish of course. What do I need to do
[19:34] <akik> 02:02 < bjrohan> in order to finish 15.10 and continue on to 16.04
[19:36] <akik> BluesKaj: i meant not initializing (=mkfs) the target partition
[19:37] <BluesKaj> akik, iĺ let you carry theball on this one, upgrading fron EOL is almost impossibel to do cleanly...noe he has to deal with the consequences ...recommend a clean install to  / and creat a /home partition will make upgrades to new release much easier
[19:38] <akik> BluesKaj: that's what he's planning to do. install 16.04 over the current installation
[19:39] <akik> i don't know why he doesn't want to format the partition though
[19:41] <akik> rohan_: why don't you want to format the target partition?
[19:41] <BluesKaj> akik:  then use gparted to make 2 ext4 partitions, one 15G for/ and  anything over 60G for home should suffice for most users unless they store all their media on a the /home then use whatever is needed
[19:45] <thelionroars> I'm getting a kernel panic only when trying to boot on battery, is the output logged somewhere for when I boot connected to AC? I think the message I need is just offscreen
[19:49] <rohan_> BluesKaj: akik I don't want to lose my personal data (/home), but also any program config info. If doing a clean install with formatting on everything but /home will suffice I'll do it
[20:05] <rohan_> akik: Given mu situation, should I simply install 16.04 from LiveUSB, and while installing, make sure that I just don't format the /home. Also just make sure I use same name and password correct?
[20:05] <akik> rohan_: i'm not sure what you meant by the program config info
[20:06] <akik> rohan_: installing an operating system might overwrite files
[20:06] <akik> rohan_: it's quite certain that program config info will be overwritten
[20:06] <rohan_> Programs like Chromium with the bookmarks, etc. I also have to adjust audio settings to get the beats audio to work. Would all that be stored in my home directory?
[20:06] <akik> rohan_: but yes there's an option not to format the target partition
[20:07] <rohan_> akik: Should I just not format my /home partition, or not format all partitions?
[20:07] <akik> rohan_: how many partition have you allocated to ubuntu?
[20:08] <akik> rohan_: you can select in "something else" that you don't format the partitions
[20:08] <rohan_> I'm not in front of the machine to look, at least a /home partition and a /boot partition
[20:09] <akik> rohan_: i have no idea about beats audio. chromium's user data will be in your home dir
[20:09] <rohan_> akik: I had to adjust the pulse audio I believe
[20:19] <dmatt> Hello, I am on 14.04 and need to connect smartphone in MTP mode, it does not work out of the box, it worked right after i installed libmtp-common mtp-tools libmtp-dev libmtp-runtime libmtp9 but ceased to work after reboot. Any idea?
[20:29] <marahin> How can I change KDE's panel color?
[20:29] <marahin> As I set my theme to breeze-dark it's blazingly bright, the default one
[20:32] <anabain> In order to solve some video card issues on 16.04, I've been told to remove xserver-xorg-video-radeon and use xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu instead. dpkg -r xserver-xorg-video-radeon does not work because xserver-xorg-video-ati depends on it, and I've also been told not to remove the ati package. What can I do, then?
[20:32] <soee> marahin: it should work
[20:32] <soee> are you on 16.04 with backport enabled ?
[20:33] <marahin> soee, I do not know about the backports; how can I check that?
[20:35] <soee> marahin: what plasma version do you have ?
[20:36] <marahin> soee, actually I just had to switch to Breeze, apply, set to Breeze-dark, apply - and it worked this time with the panel
[20:36] <marahin> so I believe it was just some kind of a bug
[20:37] <marahin>  ✘ marahin@resp4wn  ~  plasmashell -v
[20:37] <marahin> plasmashell 5.5.5
[20:37] <marahin> soee, ^
[20:37] <soee> so you dont have backports
[20:37] <marahin> I believe so :)
[20:37] <marahin> And I rather not add them - last time I did it kinda messed everything up.
[20:37] <soee> http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-5-and-frameworks-5-23-now-in-backports-for-kubuntu-16-04/
[20:37] <soee> this should only help
[20:37] <soee> it is more stable and has a lot of bugfixes
[20:38] <marahin> Backports are stable-er? Why didn't they make it to repositories then? (:
[20:38] <soee> Ubuntu policy
[20:38] <marahin> Just "baiting" haha. I will check this out defintely, thank you for your time soee  and have a nice evening (or day)!
[21:51] <plusEV> have anyone tested Plasma 5.7.0 in 16.04 yet?
[22:32] <valorie> plusEV: we have a testing group
[22:32] <valorie> wanna be a part of it?
[22:32]  * valorie hasn't had time for that yet
[22:33] <valorie> and there is neon, which is based on 16.04
[22:33] <valorie> they are getting ready for 5.7.1 I believe