irma-teresa | Hi everyone, I'm writing because the caja manager can't seem to stop opening new windows and they seem to never load too. Does someone know where I can find an answer? I'm in an ubuntu mate 16.04 | 00:04 |
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rev_ | Did you install antiviral by any chance? | 00:05 |
irma-teresa | Yes, I installed Antiviral, from the sofware boutique! | 00:07 |
rev_ | Remove it. There is a problem reported here with it spawning caja endlessly: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/caja-with-dropbox-antivirus-problem-infinite-starting-caja/7160 | 00:07 |
irma-teresa | ok, I'll try that! | 00:08 |
rev_ | After removal, open your terminal and and type: caja -q | 00:09 |
rev_ | That will restart caja properly. If the bug persists, we can rule out antiviral probably | 00:09 |
irma-teresa | the windows stop opening and loading after I uninstalled Antiviral, thanks! | 00:10 |
irma-teresa | I'll restart caja from the terminal! | 00:11 |
irma-teresa | I think that fix it! thank for the help! | 00:12 |
rev_ | Anytime. | 00:13 |
mate|6828 | Can Mate 16.04 be used with secure boot UEFI | 03:41 |
nomic | isn't that something you disable to install | 03:42 |
nomic | dunno what it is for | 03:42 |
nomic | thought, to prevent install of linux -- windows / m$ lock | 03:42 |
nomic | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface | 03:43 |
mate|6828 | It replaces bios boot menu on Hps and other computers. Secure boot is enabled instead of Legacy to protect from Root Control | 03:44 |
mate|6828 | Some Linux distros will install on UEFI boot systems without disabling secure boot others will not. | 03:45 |
nomic | Support for GPT in Linux is enabled by turning on the option CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION (EFI GUID Partition Support) during kernel configuration.[30] This option allows Linux to recognize and use GPT disks after the system firmware passes control over the system to Linux. | 03:53 |
nomic | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Linux | 03:53 |
he1kki | Hi guys. Managed to remove my mate panel as a whole by "remove from menu"-action (If I recall action correctly) | 05:11 |
he1kki | I bet that my cursor was placed in the top menu, not in the menu item I wanted to remove, so I don't have any kind of menu right now. | 05:12 |
he1kki | Hmm, one of my magic cmds fixed my Mate panel after reboot, don't know which one. Anyway, problem solved. | 07:00 |
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jason__ | can somebody help me... I can't register for the support forums because every time it keeps telling me my confirmation link is no longer valid | 12:44 |
jason__ | I keep getting this synapse bug: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/synapse-crashes-in-16-04/5348/6 | 12:44 |
jason__ | but when I try to change the command to GTK_IM_MODULE='' synapse in the main menu preferences it doesn't launch | 12:47 |
mate|4813 | hi | 14:42 |
Dasto | I just installed Ubuntu Mate 16.04 from the mini-cd and all was well until I installed Antiviral from Software Boutique(v1.10). After reboot I got ‘Starting Caja’ Loop. I uninstalled Antiviral and it stopped. Where do I report this and has anyone else seen this before? | 16:09 |
Akuli | what is antiviral | 16:10 |
Akuli | if i'm guessing right it's supposed to be an antivirus checker.. please don't use them | 16:10 |
Dasto | It's a gui frontend for Clamav | 16:13 |
Akuli | i think there's alternative guis for it | 16:13 |
Akuli | anyway | 16:13 |
Dasto | It was in Software Boutique so I thought it was tested and safe to use. | 16:13 |
Dasto | Maybe it's just my laptop. | 16:14 |
Akuli | i don't think so | 16:14 |
Akuli | that sounds like a software issue to me | 16:14 |
Akuli | Dasto, the best antivirus you can ever have is your common sense | 16:14 |
Akuli | nothing will beat that | 16:14 |
Dasto | true. I thought I'd try it. | 16:15 |
Akuli | but why | 16:15 |
Akuli | if you've moved away from windows less than a week ago i understand that, and it's normal | 16:15 |
Dasto | I have been using linux for 8yrs now and haven't touched winblows for 3yrs now. I'm getting errors installing Minecraft. I'm now trying ppa route. | 16:16 |
Akuli | is there a linux version of it? | 16:17 |
Akuli | i thought it was a fully windows game | 16:17 |
Akuli | maybe it runs in wine? | 16:17 |
Dasto | Do you run Ubuntu Mate? | 16:18 |
Akuli | yes, on my other computer | 16:18 |
Akuli | this one is devuan | 16:18 |
Akuli | with mate | 16:19 |
Dasto | Okay. Minecraft is written in Java and has always run on Linux. Just a pain to run default way through terminal. That's why I always use lauchers from ppa's. | 16:20 |
Akuli | Dasto, why don't you create one yourself | 16:20 |
odroid | good evening | 16:20 |
Akuli | right-click a panel, add to panel, custom application launcher | 16:21 |
odroid | i cannot access | 16:21 |
Akuli | set up whatever command you need and a decent icon, you're ready to go | 16:21 |
odroid | welcome softwares | 16:21 |
Akuli | hi odroid | 16:21 |
odroid | i just got this odriod device | 16:21 |
Dasto | Sorry I meant unofficial installer not launcher. | 16:21 |
Akuli | you could even make a menu item of it | 16:22 |
Akuli | so it would be in your menu, with all the other stuff | 16:22 |
odroid | software boutique | 16:22 |
odroid | it says welcome could not feature any software that is compatible on this system | 16:23 |
odroid | any bro or sis have idea | 16:23 |
odroid | how to resolve this issue | 16:24 |
odroid | ? | 16:24 |
odroid | Dear Akuli can you help please? | 16:25 |
Akuli | which version of ubuntu mate are you running | 16:30 |
Akuli | odroid, i'd recommend just installing your software manually with the terminal or using synaptics package manager | 16:32 |
Akuli | more reliable | 16:32 |
odroid | MATE Desktop Environment 1.12.1 | 16:44 |
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gQuigs | where would be the best place to start a discussion about the the future of the i386 architecture on Ubuntu Mate? (for instance I did it on the Ubuntu GNOME ML for them - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2016-July/004072.html) | 17:46 |
Akuli | this computer is 32-bit | 17:55 |
SCHAAP137 | 64-bit here | 17:55 |
gQuigs | Akuli: curious what chip, memory? | 18:25 |
Akuli | this is an old thinkpad r400 | 18:25 |
Akuli | 2GB of ram | 18:25 |
Akuli | but my oldest computer is an imac g3, with 256MB of ram :D | 18:26 |
Akuli | runs ubuntu 12.04 with xfce just fine | 18:26 |
gQuigs | Akuli: do you think you'll upgrade it, or will it stay on 12.04 until it dies? | 18:37 |
Akuli | yes, and then it's time to figure out how devuan runs on it | 18:37 |
Akuli | because 14.04 with systemd would be way too slow | 18:37 |
gQuigs | Akuli: systemd doesn't really make things slower :) | 18:38 |
gQuigs | Akuli: and anyway, 16.04 is the version that introduced systemd | 18:38 |
Akuli | well, my personal experience has been completely the opposite | 18:38 |
Akuli | its not | 18:38 |
Akuli | 14.04 has it | 18:38 |
gQuigs | 14.04 has a systemd shim layer that does a few things, but Upstart is still in charge | 18:40 |
Akuli | well, that explains why so many people have issues with 16.04 | 18:40 |
Akuli | based on the number of people coming to ubuntu help channels after releasing 16.04 its garbage, and now i know why | 18:40 |
Akuli | i'll never upgrade to it | 18:41 |
JakesDen | I tried updating ubuntu mate and now my pc won't boot up! | 19:04 |
JakesDen | I ran sudo apt dist-upgrade and now when I turn my pc on it says failed to load ldlinux.c32 | 19:05 |
JakesDen | Help! | 19:05 |
Chakka____ | sounds like a UEFI vs BIOS bootup problem - did you switch modes? | 19:07 |
Akuli | JakesDen, hold down left shift during startup, you'll get to a menu | 19:07 |
Akuli | JakesDen, highlight your ubuntu there, and press e | 19:08 |
Akuli | Chakka____, nice i didn't think of that.. we'll see if he gets to grub or not | 19:08 |
JakesDen | Holding left shift didn't work | 19:08 |
Akuli | still same error? | 19:08 |
JakesDen | Want a screens hot? | 19:08 |
Akuli | in that case Chakka____ knows what he's doing | 19:09 |
JakesDen | And my pc doesn't support uefi modes | 19:09 |
Akuli | JakesDen, do you have the installation cd? | 19:10 |
JakesDen | I will send screenshot any easy site to upload it to | 19:10 |
Akuli | or dvd or usb stick or whatever | 19:10 |
Akuli | JakesDen, postimg.org and imgur.com | 19:10 |
Akuli | actually, pasteboard.co is great | 19:10 |
JakesDen | No I dont but I can boot the install usb off my android phone | 19:10 |
Akuli | :D | 19:10 |
Akuli | can you boot the usb stick on your computer? | 19:10 |
JakesDen | https://postimg.org/image/rz7w96yuv/ | 19:12 |
Akuli | does it just do that when you boot it? | 19:13 |
JakesDen | Yes | 19:13 |
Akuli | which architecture? | 19:13 |
Akuli | i386, amd64, powerpc...? | 19:13 |
JakesDen | I pressed esc and it says grub loading but it doesn't do nothing | 19:13 |
JakesDen | Amd64 | 19:13 |
Akuli | so grub is broken | 19:14 |
Akuli | can you boot the usb stick on your computer? | 19:14 |
JakesDen | Yup | 19:14 |
JakesDen | Can I try the grub rescue disk? | 19:14 |
Akuli | i don't like that | 19:14 |
Akuli | just a plain ubuntu iso would be nice | 19:14 |
JakesDen | It only happened since linux kernel was uodated | 19:15 |
Akuli | all linux mint fans would say that their distro never does that :D | 19:15 |
JakesDen | I will start downloading ubuntu mate ISO now | 19:15 |
Akuli | do you have the grub resque disc downloaded? | 19:15 |
Akuli | and how long will downloading take? | 19:16 |
JakesDen | Mabey only 5 mins | 19:18 |
JakesDen | If I had BitTorrent then it would be 1 min | 19:18 |
JakesDen | Do I have to reinstall ubuntu mate? | 19:18 |
JakesDen | I just realised I had a usb with corrupted grub plugged into my pc | 19:20 |
Akuli | oh :D | 19:20 |
JakesDen | #derp | 19:20 |
JakesDen | I quote like linux distros | 19:20 |
pilne | i'm looking to install win7 alongside my mate, i already have the partition set aside and formatted ntfs, will installing windows overwrite my mbr? | 19:21 |
Akuli | pilne, yes, and you'll need to reinstall grub | 19:21 |
JakesDen | I have been using linux since I was 7-8 years old | 19:21 |
pilne | but otherwise everything else *should* be safe Akuli ? | 19:21 |
Akuli | pilne, yes, i can help you with that, or just google it | 19:21 |
Akuli | i've done that | 19:21 |
pilne | i've done it before as well when i borked shit | 19:21 |
pilne | just chrooting in from a usb has worked before | 19:22 |
Akuli | just be careful not to uograde to windows 10 :( | 19:22 |
Akuli | :) | 19:22 |
Akuli | chrooting windows?? | 19:22 |
pilne | i'm going to unplug from the interwebs to do the install | 19:22 |
pilne | chrooting into my mate install | 19:22 |
Akuli | oh now i see | 19:22 |
Akuli | thats what you should do, yes | 19:22 |
Akuli | i think just an update-grub might be enough, not sure | 19:22 |
pilne | and then i'm going to install "never10" or something | 19:22 |
Akuli | you can just avoid some updates on it | 19:22 |
Akuli | i have a list of them somewhere, but i have no idea where right now | 19:23 |
JakesDen | Well I wanted to play a game and on the box it says works on windows 7 or better so I installed linux | 19:23 |
Akuli | :D | 19:24 |
Akuli | some of them say 'greater' | 19:24 |
JakesDen | I have never realy liked windows. | 19:25 |
JakesDen | I have been trying out cublinux and 8 quite like it so I might dual boot it with my pc soon | 19:26 |
Akuli | whats cublinux | 19:26 |
JakesDen | A mix between chromium design and ubuntu | 19:27 |
JakesDen | Cublinux.com | 19:27 |
JakesDen | I must say even on a old Dell latitude d620 laptop with a old hhd it boots up quicker than entering I have seen before | 19:29 |
Akuli | i can say same about devuan on this thinkpad :D | 19:29 |
JakesDen | I just wish there was a way to watch Netflix on my 32 bit laptop on any chrome browser | 19:36 |
Akuli | doesn't it work on chromium? | 19:36 |
Akuli | i guess not, then you need to find an old 32-bit chrome somewhere | 19:36 |
Akuli | or run a browser in wine | 19:37 |
JakesDen | Nope, asks for silver light and the browser doesn't have support for drm content anywatmy | 19:37 |
JakesDen | I would use old chrome if only it wasnt horrendously out of date | 19:37 |
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Akuli | JakesDen, try firefox in wine | 19:42 |
Akuli | maybe it works | 19:42 |
Akuli | or chrome in wine | 19:42 |
JakesDen | No I don't want firefox | 19:43 |
JakesDen | Plus I don't want it complicated I just want Netflix to work out of the box | 19:43 |
Akuli | no netflix or netflix in wine? | 19:45 |
Akuli | up to you | 19:45 |
JakesDen | No Netflix I guess | 19:48 |
JakesDen | Well I will probably just use my phone for now | 19:48 |
JakesDen | Well see ya all later! | 19:50 |
ubuntu-mate | hi there, I have this situation. sda is my laptop computer HD, sdb is a flash drive I m booting and sdc is a portable HD. Id like to install ubuntu on sdc without interfering at all with sda normal functioning. Is the option Something else and then selecting sdc for bootloader installation a safe option? | 20:36 |
ubuntu-mate | like this http://imgur.com/QZiV4PA | 20:36 |
Akuli | best i can think of | 20:36 |
Akuli | by the way, you don't need a separate /home | 20:37 |
Akuli | just make a swap same size as your ram but not more than 4GB, and a / ext4 partition | 20:37 |
Akuli | for boot loader, is there a /dev/sdc option in the boot loader menu? | 20:37 |
ubuntu-mate | yes, i made a printscreen on the link | 20:38 |
Akuli | choose /dev/sdc instead of /dev/sdc1 if you can | 20:38 |
Akuli | it's been a while since i used the installer though | 20:38 |
Akuli | if you can't choose sdc, make it point at your / partition | 20:39 |
ubuntu-mate | yeah, i've done just that, if I didn't it wouldn't let me continue | 20:39 |
Akuli | seems like you don't have a / partition yet | 20:39 |
ubuntu-mate | so this way won't affect sda AT ALL, right? | 20:39 |
Akuli | if you carefully leave it untouched there | 20:39 |
ubuntu-mate | I've changed it since that capture | 20:39 |
ubuntu-mate | right now it is like this http://imgur.com/ZeVqlwN | 20:41 |
Akuli | i can't see what's going on in sdc | 20:41 |
Akuli | can you scroll down a bit and take a new screenshot? | 20:41 |
ubuntu-mate | sure, just a sec | 20:42 |
ubuntu-mate | http://imgur.com/NldzADK | 20:42 |
Akuli | liiks good to me | 20:43 |
Akuli | looks | 20:43 |
ubuntu-mate | ok, i'll give it a try! thanks | 20:43 |
Akuli | before you click install now | 20:43 |
ubuntu-mate | yes | 20:43 |
Akuli | let's just see if someone else here can check if thats good | 20:44 |
Akuli | because i don't usually use the installer for installing my operating system so i don't know if there's something more we need to take in account | 20:44 |
ubuntu-mate | allright | 20:44 |
Akuli | if nobody says anything you can ask on #ubuntu, but you need to register on freenode for that, /msg nickserv help gets you started if needed | 20:45 |
ubuntu-mate | what alternatives do I have? it would be great to mirror my ``local`` filesystem with that one, if you know what i meant | 20:45 |
ubuntu-mate | already asked | 20:46 |
Akuli | mirror it? | 20:46 |
ubuntu-mate | that the ubuntu mate that I have in my portable drive would be an exact copy of the one i have in the portable HD | 20:47 |
Akuli | you can transfer your files and settings easily | 20:47 |
Akuli | just copy everything in /home/username, including hidden files | 20:48 |
ubuntu-mate | i see, but first I need it to have a bootable os first | 20:48 |
ubuntu-mate | hm... Akuli. when I press Install now, it doesn't select the appropriate device for the swap partition | 20:55 |
Akuli | hmm | 20:55 |
Akuli | i need to go now, its late here | 20:55 |
Akuli | go to #ubuntu if nobody here knows | 20:55 |
ubuntu-mate | no problem! thanks anyway! | 20:55 |
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workhorse | just installed ClamAV from the boutique, and had Caja go NUTS on ME! It removed the desktop icons, and was opening endless caja's. It was like a wet gremlin! | 23:28 |
rev_ | workhorse: That is a known issue ( https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/caja-with-dropbox-antivirus-problem-infinite-starting-caja/7160 ). | 23:43 |
rev_ | Antiviral is being considered for removal from the boutique. | 23:43 |
workhorse | Yeah, I can see why...lol, I was glad that was the issue, as troubleshooting the issue was confusing | 23:44 |
workhorse | thanks for link, will look at it now | 23:44 |
rev_ | Yeah, that issue has been coming up frequently. Hopefully it will get pulled soon. Glad you figured it out. | 23:45 |
workhorse | thanks, I'll look straight to the mate community | 23:46 |
workhorse | for future issues... | 23:47 |
MrMikl989 | hi kind of new to Ubuntu but I did redhat 8. I have U 16. But I cant figure out how to make a shortcut to the desktop for firestorm viewer | 23:48 |
MrMikl989 | i found a web page and did gedit to make one, and there is a gedit icon in applications | 23:48 |
MrMikl989 | wonders if anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong? | 23:49 |
MrMikl989 | right now i launch in terminal and go to the directory and use ./firestorm to launch it and it runs | 23:52 |
Slane19d | do you see the program in applications at the top? | 23:54 |
MrMikl989 | no | 23:54 |
Slane19d | yeah, guess that was too obvious! | 23:55 |
Slane19d | sorry, | 23:55 |
MrMikl989 | np | 23:55 |
MrMikl989 | the text file only appears when I go through file manager | 23:55 |
dexter_ | hello any info on instaling ATI R7 360 drivers on mate 16.04? | 23:56 |
dexter_ | sorry AMD | 23:56 |
dexter_ | just installed 16.04 and trying to get steam to work and suspect need drivers | 23:57 |
dexter_ | will i have to revert back to 15.04? | 23:57 |
MrMikl989 | and i made it using sudo, as admin, btw | 23:59 |
nomic | why, on 2 monitors same .. have to "disable overscan" on 1 .. install | 23:59 |
nomic | /boot/config.txt | 23:59 |
Slane19d | might want to check steam forums for info, I got it to work that way @dexter | 23:59 |
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