[00:04] Hi everyone, I'm writing because the caja manager can't seem to stop opening new windows and they seem to never load too. Does someone know where I can find an answer? I'm in an ubuntu mate 16.04 [00:05] Did you install antiviral by any chance? [00:07] Yes, I installed Antiviral, from the sofware boutique! [00:07] Remove it. There is a problem reported here with it spawning caja endlessly: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/caja-with-dropbox-antivirus-problem-infinite-starting-caja/7160 [00:08] ok, I'll try that! [00:09] After removal, open your terminal and and type: caja -q [00:09] That will restart caja properly. If the bug persists, we can rule out antiviral probably [00:10] the windows stop opening and loading after I uninstalled Antiviral, thanks! [00:11] I'll restart caja from the terminal! [00:12] I think that fix it! thank for the help! [00:13] Anytime. [03:41] Can Mate 16.04 be used with secure boot UEFI [03:42] isn't that something you disable to install [03:42] dunno what it is for [03:42] thought, to prevent install of linux -- windows / m$ lock [03:43] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface [03:44] It replaces bios boot menu on Hps and other computers. Secure boot is enabled instead of Legacy to protect from Root Control [03:45] Some Linux distros will install on UEFI boot systems without disabling secure boot others will not. [03:53] Support for GPT in Linux is enabled by turning on the option CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION (EFI GUID Partition Support) during kernel configuration.[30] This option allows Linux to recognize and use GPT disks after the system firmware passes control over the system to Linux. [03:53] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Linux [05:11] Hi guys. Managed to remove my mate panel as a whole by "remove from menu"-action (If I recall action correctly) [05:12] I bet that my cursor was placed in the top menu, not in the menu item I wanted to remove, so I don't have any kind of menu right now. [07:00] Hmm, one of my magic cmds fixed my Mate panel after reboot, don't know which one. Anyway, problem solved. === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [12:44] can somebody help me... I can't register for the support forums because every time it keeps telling me my confirmation link is no longer valid [12:44] I keep getting this synapse bug: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/synapse-crashes-in-16-04/5348/6 [12:47] but when I try to change the command to GTK_IM_MODULE='' synapse in the main menu preferences it doesn't launch [14:42] hi [16:09] I just installed Ubuntu Mate 16.04 from the mini-cd and all was well until I installed Antiviral from Software Boutique(v1.10). After reboot I got ‘Starting Caja’ Loop. I uninstalled Antiviral and it stopped. Where do I report this and has anyone else seen this before? [16:10] what is antiviral [16:10] if i'm guessing right it's supposed to be an antivirus checker.. please don't use them [16:13] It's a gui frontend for Clamav [16:13] i think there's alternative guis for it [16:13] anyway [16:13] It was in Software Boutique so I thought it was tested and safe to use. [16:14] Maybe it's just my laptop. [16:14] i don't think so [16:14] that sounds like a software issue to me [16:14] Dasto, the best antivirus you can ever have is your common sense [16:14] nothing will beat that [16:15] true. I thought I'd try it. [16:15] but why [16:15] if you've moved away from windows less than a week ago i understand that, and it's normal [16:16] I have been using linux for 8yrs now and haven't touched winblows for 3yrs now. I'm getting errors installing Minecraft. I'm now trying ppa route. [16:17] is there a linux version of it? [16:17] i thought it was a fully windows game [16:17] maybe it runs in wine? [16:18] Do you run Ubuntu Mate? [16:18] yes, on my other computer [16:18] this one is devuan [16:19] with mate [16:20] Okay. Minecraft is written in Java and has always run on Linux. Just a pain to run default way through terminal. That's why I always use lauchers from ppa's. [16:20] Dasto, why don't you create one yourself [16:20] good evening [16:21] right-click a panel, add to panel, custom application launcher [16:21] i cannot access [16:21] set up whatever command you need and a decent icon, you're ready to go [16:21] welcome softwares [16:21] hi odroid [16:21] i just got this odriod device [16:21] Sorry I meant unofficial installer not launcher. [16:22] you could even make a menu item of it [16:22] so it would be in your menu, with all the other stuff [16:22] software boutique [16:23] it says welcome could not feature any software that is compatible on this system [16:23] any bro or sis have idea [16:24] how to resolve this issue [16:24] ? [16:25] Dear Akuli can you help please? [16:30] which version of ubuntu mate are you running [16:32] odroid, i'd recommend just installing your software manually with the terminal or using synaptics package manager [16:32] more reliable [16:44] MATE Desktop Environment 1.12.1 === apessoa is now known as Guest13560 [17:46] where would be the best place to start a discussion about the the future of the i386 architecture on Ubuntu Mate? (for instance I did it on the Ubuntu GNOME ML for them - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2016-July/004072.html) [17:55] this computer is 32-bit [17:55] 64-bit here [18:25] Akuli: curious what chip, memory? [18:25] this is an old thinkpad r400 [18:25] 2GB of ram [18:26] but my oldest computer is an imac g3, with 256MB of ram :D [18:26] runs ubuntu 12.04 with xfce just fine [18:37] Akuli: do you think you'll upgrade it, or will it stay on 12.04 until it dies? [18:37] yes, and then it's time to figure out how devuan runs on it [18:37] because 14.04 with systemd would be way too slow [18:38] Akuli: systemd doesn't really make things slower :) [18:38] Akuli: and anyway, 16.04 is the version that introduced systemd [18:38] well, my personal experience has been completely the opposite [18:38] its not [18:38] 14.04 has it [18:40] 14.04 has a systemd shim layer that does a few things, but Upstart is still in charge [18:40] well, that explains why so many people have issues with 16.04 [18:40] based on the number of people coming to ubuntu help channels after releasing 16.04 its garbage, and now i know why [18:41] i'll never upgrade to it [19:04] I tried updating ubuntu mate and now my pc won't boot up! [19:05] I ran sudo apt dist-upgrade and now when I turn my pc on it says failed to load ldlinux.c32 [19:05] Help! [19:07] sounds like a UEFI vs BIOS bootup problem - did you switch modes? [19:07] JakesDen, hold down left shift during startup, you'll get to a menu [19:08] JakesDen, highlight your ubuntu there, and press e [19:08] Chakka____, nice i didn't think of that.. we'll see if he gets to grub or not [19:08] Holding left shift didn't work [19:08] still same error? [19:08] Want a screens hot? [19:09] in that case Chakka____ knows what he's doing [19:09] And my pc doesn't support uefi modes [19:10] JakesDen, do you have the installation cd? [19:10] I will send screenshot any easy site to upload it to [19:10] or dvd or usb stick or whatever [19:10] JakesDen, postimg.org and imgur.com [19:10] actually, pasteboard.co is great [19:10] No I dont but I can boot the install usb off my android phone [19:10] :D [19:10] can you boot the usb stick on your computer? [19:12] https://postimg.org/image/rz7w96yuv/ [19:13] does it just do that when you boot it? [19:13] Yes [19:13] which architecture? [19:13] i386, amd64, powerpc...? [19:13] I pressed esc and it says grub loading but it doesn't do nothing [19:13] Amd64 [19:14] so grub is broken [19:14] can you boot the usb stick on your computer? [19:14] Yup [19:14] Can I try the grub rescue disk? [19:14] i don't like that [19:14] just a plain ubuntu iso would be nice [19:15] It only happened since linux kernel was uodated [19:15] all linux mint fans would say that their distro never does that :D [19:15] I will start downloading ubuntu mate ISO now [19:15] do you have the grub resque disc downloaded? [19:16] and how long will downloading take? [19:18] Mabey only 5 mins [19:18] If I had BitTorrent then it would be 1 min [19:18] Do I have to reinstall ubuntu mate? [19:20] I just realised I had a usb with corrupted grub plugged into my pc [19:20] oh :D [19:20] #derp [19:20] I quote like linux distros [19:21] i'm looking to install win7 alongside my mate, i already have the partition set aside and formatted ntfs, will installing windows overwrite my mbr? [19:21] pilne, yes, and you'll need to reinstall grub [19:21] I have been using linux since I was 7-8 years old [19:21] but otherwise everything else *should* be safe Akuli ? [19:21] pilne, yes, i can help you with that, or just google it [19:21] i've done that [19:21] i've done it before as well when i borked shit [19:22] just chrooting in from a usb has worked before [19:22] just be careful not to uograde to windows 10 :( [19:22] :) [19:22] chrooting windows?? [19:22] i'm going to unplug from the interwebs to do the install [19:22] chrooting into my mate install [19:22] oh now i see [19:22] thats what you should do, yes [19:22] i think just an update-grub might be enough, not sure [19:22] and then i'm going to install "never10" or something [19:22] you can just avoid some updates on it [19:23] i have a list of them somewhere, but i have no idea where right now [19:23] Well I wanted to play a game and on the box it says works on windows 7 or better so I installed linux [19:24] :D [19:24] some of them say 'greater' [19:25] I have never realy liked windows. [19:26] I have been trying out cublinux and 8 quite like it so I might dual boot it with my pc soon [19:26] whats cublinux [19:27] A mix between chromium design and ubuntu [19:27] Cublinux.com [19:29] I must say even on a old Dell latitude d620 laptop with a old hhd it boots up quicker than entering I have seen before [19:29] i can say same about devuan on this thinkpad :D [19:36] I just wish there was a way to watch Netflix on my 32 bit laptop on any chrome browser [19:36] doesn't it work on chromium? [19:36] i guess not, then you need to find an old 32-bit chrome somewhere [19:37] or run a browser in wine [19:37] Nope, asks for silver light and the browser doesn't have support for drm content anywatmy [19:37] I would use old chrome if only it wasnt horrendously out of date === DanChapman is now known as DanChapman__ [19:42] JakesDen, try firefox in wine [19:42] maybe it works [19:42] or chrome in wine [19:43] No I don't want firefox [19:43] Plus I don't want it complicated I just want Netflix to work out of the box [19:45] no netflix or netflix in wine? [19:45] up to you [19:48] No Netflix I guess [19:48] Well I will probably just use my phone for now [19:50] Well see ya all later! [20:36] hi there, I have this situation. sda is my laptop computer HD, sdb is a flash drive I m booting and sdc is a portable HD. Id like to install ubuntu on sdc without interfering at all with sda normal functioning. Is the option Something else and then selecting sdc for bootloader installation a safe option? [20:36] like this http://imgur.com/QZiV4PA [20:36] best i can think of [20:37] by the way, you don't need a separate /home [20:37] just make a swap same size as your ram but not more than 4GB, and a / ext4 partition [20:37] for boot loader, is there a /dev/sdc option in the boot loader menu? [20:38] yes, i made a printscreen on the link [20:38] choose /dev/sdc instead of /dev/sdc1 if you can [20:38] it's been a while since i used the installer though [20:39] if you can't choose sdc, make it point at your / partition [20:39] yeah, i've done just that, if I didn't it wouldn't let me continue [20:39] seems like you don't have a / partition yet [20:39] so this way won't affect sda AT ALL, right? [20:39] if you carefully leave it untouched there [20:39] I've changed it since that capture [20:41] right now it is like this http://imgur.com/ZeVqlwN [20:41] i can't see what's going on in sdc [20:41] can you scroll down a bit and take a new screenshot? [20:42] sure, just a sec [20:42] http://imgur.com/NldzADK [20:43] liiks good to me [20:43] looks [20:43] ok, i'll give it a try! thanks [20:43] before you click install now [20:43] yes [20:44] let's just see if someone else here can check if thats good [20:44] because i don't usually use the installer for installing my operating system so i don't know if there's something more we need to take in account [20:44] allright [20:45] if nobody says anything you can ask on #ubuntu, but you need to register on freenode for that, /msg nickserv help gets you started if needed [20:45] what alternatives do I have? it would be great to mirror my ``local`` filesystem with that one, if you know what i meant [20:46] already asked [20:46] mirror it? [20:47] that the ubuntu mate that I have in my portable drive would be an exact copy of the one i have in the portable HD [20:47] you can transfer your files and settings easily [20:48] just copy everything in /home/username, including hidden files [20:48] i see, but first I need it to have a bootable os first [20:55] hm... Akuli. when I press Install now, it doesn't select the appropriate device for the swap partition [20:55] hmm [20:55] i need to go now, its late here [20:55] go to #ubuntu if nobody here knows [20:55] no problem! thanks anyway! === DzAirmaX_ is now known as DzAirmaX [23:28] just installed ClamAV from the boutique, and had Caja go NUTS on ME! It removed the desktop icons, and was opening endless caja's. It was like a wet gremlin! [23:43] workhorse: That is a known issue ( https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/caja-with-dropbox-antivirus-problem-infinite-starting-caja/7160 ). [23:43] Antiviral is being considered for removal from the boutique. [23:44] Yeah, I can see why...lol, I was glad that was the issue, as troubleshooting the issue was confusing [23:44] thanks for link, will look at it now [23:45] Yeah, that issue has been coming up frequently. Hopefully it will get pulled soon. Glad you figured it out. [23:46] thanks, I'll look straight to the mate community [23:47] for future issues... [23:48] hi kind of new to Ubuntu but I did redhat 8. I have U 16. But I cant figure out how to make a shortcut to the desktop for firestorm viewer [23:48] i found a web page and did gedit to make one, and there is a gedit icon in applications [23:49] wonders if anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong? [23:52] right now i launch in terminal and go to the directory and use ./firestorm to launch it and it runs [23:54] do you see the program in applications at the top? [23:54] no [23:55] yeah, guess that was too obvious! [23:55] sorry, [23:55] np [23:55] the text file only appears when I go through file manager [23:56] hello any info on instaling ATI R7 360 drivers on mate 16.04? [23:56] sorry AMD [23:57] just installed 16.04 and trying to get steam to work and suspect need drivers [23:57] will i have to revert back to 15.04? [23:59] and i made it using sudo, as admin, btw [23:59] why, on 2 monitors same .. have to "disable overscan" on 1 .. install [23:59] /boot/config.txt [23:59] might want to check steam forums for info, I got it to work that way @dexter