daftykinshow goes it, sir?00:39
diddledanpretty good ta00:39
diddledanmmm icecream ftw00:40
daftykinsthat was the good, this was the bad00:40
daftykinspoor little lass got swiped by a neighbour kitty00:40
diddledanaww :-(00:41
diddledanlots of cuddles required methinks00:41
daftykins:) a fine treatment regime00:41
daftykinsheh i was cleaning her electronic cat flap today, she came back to it and i could tell the smell hit her first (used a bit o' fairy liquid)00:42
daftykinsshe was all, "eww, no no no wat is this?!"00:42
diddledankitties don't like new smeels01:15
diddledanthat's why they don't like me.. too many farts :-p01:15
daftykinshad to click away inside looking at her until she came in01:15
diddledanwind's blowing well outside01:16
diddledanmy curtains are waggling01:16
daftykinsmmm i heard a bit of roughness out there too01:17
diddledanis usb-c designed to handle thunderbolt or have people done something unspecced?01:28
daftykinsUSB C is the physical form factor of the thunderbolt port on my Dell XPS 13 935001:31
daftykinsit also speaks displayport01:31
daftykinsthough i think that's encompassed within thunderbolt01:31
diddledanyah but it also carries USB3.1 so I'm confused as to whether the thunderbolt and usb are converging01:33
diddledanI mean my mobo says on the box "dual thunderbolt 3 - the usb type-c that does it all" and the usb3.1 are on the same holes01:34
daftykinsthat'll likely be from an ASMedia chip01:34
daftykinsyou have to bear in mind the industry has ruined "USB 3.1" as that can mean two things, USB 3.1 gen 1 is 5Gbps or what we know as USB 3.0 - whilst USB 3.1 gen 2 is 10Gbps01:35
daftykinsit's a mess :(01:35
daftykinsi don't think my board has thunderbolt, so i dunno there01:36
* diddledan checks the manual to be sure it does thunderbird and 3.1 on the same connector01:39
diddledanyup. definitely does01:39
diddledanthe specs say it's an intel thunderbird controller01:41
daftykinson mine, the ASMedia drives the teal coloured USB 3.1 gen 2 ports on the back, one USB C and one USB A01:42
diddledanyeah. mines only got 3.1 routed to the USB-C's all the USB-A's are 3.0 or less01:44
diddledanthere's a couple 2.0/1.1-only ports too01:44
daftykinsmore than one C?01:44
diddledantwo C's01:44
diddledanboth thunderbird capable and both also 3.101:45
daftykinswhen i was shopping for mine i was gonna try and pick intel provided USB 3.1 gen 2, but i gave up caring in the end as it's quite rare01:45
daftykinsgen 2! :P01:45
daftykinsthat figures01:45
diddledanthe board is a gigabyte Z170X-UD5 TH if you wanna look it up01:46
daftykinssure, ta01:47
daftykinsinteresting, i always wondered what actually drove the image01:49
daftykinsyours uses the MCDP2800 chip01:49
daftykinsthat drives DP and HDMI conversion output from the thunderbolt port01:49
daftykinsbloody dualBIOS :P01:51
daftykinsgigabyte you are nutters01:51
diddledanat least it's not MSI "let's put the BIOS on a USB Disk"01:51
daftykinsare you waiting on RAM now? :>01:51
daftykinswutcha pick? i was quite amused to see that despite stock speed being 2133MHz and them now going beyond 3400MHz, there's practically no benefit in benchmarks01:52
daftykinshttp://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/5479/20150904094342_big.png :o01:52
daftykinsooh a port 80 for boot diagnostic codes built in01:53
diddledana port80? as in http?01:53
daftykins:D the two digit seven segment displays01:53
* diddledan shows he's a web guy :-p01:53
diddledanaah gotcha01:53
diddledanyup, I spotted that too01:54
diddledanand a nice button for power switch without wiring-up a case-mounted one01:54
diddledanno more fiddling with jumpers to test it :-p01:54
daftykinsthat one i got off ebay was like that XD01:55
daftykinswhat was ace was i've got 3 boards of the same era, so when i unplugged all the front panel IO stuffs from the case, on that little white plastic riser you get with asus gear, it all matched so i just plugged it straight back on the new one \o/01:56
daftykinsalthough it turned out my board was fine, it was just my graphics card all along01:56
diddledanI got one of those risers with this gigabyte01:56
diddledanagain with the "no moar fiddling"01:57
daftykinsthey're ace01:58
daftykinsmy Z170 asus was actually too stingy, i was shocked!01:58
daftykinsremember the days of individually wired USB header connectors? ugh01:58
diddledanoh god01:58
daftykinslove the new USB 3.0 design for case ones though01:58
diddledanthey were evil01:58
daftykinsVCC, data -, data +, ground, ground!01:59
daftykins"Software as a service monitoring platform Datadog, used by the likes of Facebook, Salesforce and Citrix, has been breached and therefore suggested strongly that customers reset their passwords."02:08
diddledanoh dear02:08
daftykinsOther customers include Spotify, The New York Times and Samsung02:08
m0nkey_I'm just going to stop using everything on the web.02:09
daftykinsit's the only way to be sure02:11
m0nkey_daftykins, you got a link?02:19
daftykinsit's pretty recent on www.theregister.co.uk02:20
daftykinswas reading from feedly on my phone02:20
diddledantime to sleep02:22
daftykinsg'night sir02:22
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knightwiseGood morning06:25
knightwisePokemons on the roof ! Unity under windows ... What is this ? Jumanji  ?06:26
marshmnsomehow, suspend is now working fine on my laptop07:00
marshmnmaybe some recent system updates made it work07:01
marshmnno doubt it may break again sometime - I'll enjoy it whilst it lasts :-)07:01
zmoylan-pimeanwhile it'll keep you in suspense...07:07
knightwisemarshmn: what machine do you have ,07:12
marshmnknightwise: Dell XPS 15 (not the most recent generation though - the one before)07:16
knightwiseI have the XPS13 ,07:16
knightwisesame gen as yours i think07:17
knightwisedid you do anything special to enable hibernate ?07:25
dogmatic69hi all, I got a new lenovo E560 and the touchpad is horrible. Cant drag and select files for example because it jumps around the screen07:57
dogmatic69also cant highlight text as it jumps around.07:57
dogmatic69anyone seen something like this, or know how to fix it?07:58
knightwisepopey: I think you managed to tick off every single star trek geek in under 30 seconds08:05
knightwisewell done08:05
TwistedLuciditydogmatic69: Appears to be a common issue with that model - http://askubuntu.com/questions/758663/lenovo-thinkpad-e560-trackpad-stopped-working08:18
TwistedLucidityI can't see anything offering a guaranteed solution; sorry08:19
TwistedLucidityThe Lenovo Support page does offer Linux updates for BIOS etc. maybe that will help?08:22
davmor2knightwise: it's a special knack popey has to both endear and annoy in one swift movement ;)08:24
dogmatic69TwistedLucidity: thanks08:25
dogmatic69TwistedLucidity: that is actually not the same issue.08:25
knightwisedavmor2: The only thing he could have said that was worse was that he preferred"the animated series"08:26
davmor2knightwise: Startrek that's the one with darth vader on Galatica with old ben and maxmillion are the droids, with that plucky little firefly that buck rogers flys in the animated version right08:29
TwistedLuciditydogmatic69: Driver/Module issues can cause seven shades of weirdness. I've not got experience of any Edge-series ThinkPad.08:30
davmor2popey: ^ that's how you should start every show :D08:30
diploMorning all08:45
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:48
zmoylan-pii think trackpads and their suckiness in macos, windows and linux have encouraged me to use console apps more and more09:19
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popeydavmor2: knightwise it wasnt intentional09:34
knightwisepopey: did you seriously not know the difference between voy and tng ?09:35
popeyi know both exist09:35
zmoylan-pidisparaging star trek on irc is worse than hurting cat on internet? :-P09:35
zmoylan-pias long as you worship at the altar of ds9 all is well... :-P09:36
knightwisezmoylan-pi: right on both accounts09:36
* knightwise is a TOS man .. but loves DS9 too09:36
zmoylan-piand if you love ds9 you should go and watch b5 as well09:37
knightwisezmoylan-pi: beentheredonethat :)09:37
zmoylan-pisee the new episode of trek continues?09:37
knightwiselet there be dragons ?09:38
zmoylan-picome not between the dragons09:39
popeynever watched ds9 either09:39
popeyor b509:39
knightwiseyep :) Fantastic episode zmoylan-pi09:39
popeymate of mine used to09:39
knightwisepopey: you have a lot to learn :)09:39
zmoylan-piyou hear of geeks who haven't seen trek... but they're so rare... :-P09:40
popeywell, once i plough through stv and tng i will do tge others09:40
popeynetflix ftw09:40
knightwiseVOY is like OITNB in space. Everyone is stuck and Kate Mulgrew is running the show. :)09:41
zmoylan-pivoyager is lame till the borg show up09:42
knightwisezmoylan-pi: i wanna flip that statement around09:42
zmoylan-pithen she goes all ellen ripley on the queen09:42
knightwiseVoy is cool UNTILL the borg shows up09:42
davmor2popey: hahahahahahahahaha09:43
knightwisepopey: agreed09:44
knightwisemy wife is currently rewatching BH9021009:44
knightwisesome of the tech they use there is hilarious09:44
popeyoitnb is ace09:44
davmor2knightwise: you poor poor man09:44
popeylove mulgrew in it09:45
popeygot 2 eps left to watch09:45
knightwisedavmor2: i watched a couple of episodes with here. ITs not THAT bad actually. I prefer stuff like that to the gore-blood-violence stuff like 'daredevil'09:45
knightwisepopey: indeed. Kate is awe-some09:45
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Monday, and happy Cheer Up The Lonely Day! 😃10:05
davmor2JamesTait: this one sprung straight to mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2mbGP6vFI10:16
JamesTaitdavmor2, that takes me back to secondary school, and an assembly my maths teacher gave.  Obviously had an impact if it's stuck with me this long.10:43
davmor2JamesTait: you're welcome :)10:44
foobarrydoes anyone here use okconfig with nagios?11:11
davmor2oh this is nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuGuSzt5u3c11:57
DJonesWill  whoever ordered rain for the middle of summer please withdraw from any politcal candidacy aspirations. Thank you.11:58
* davmor2 reads the Mail, DJones apparently it's all the fault of the immigrants that the EU sent and it wouldn't of happen if Diana was alive 12:00
zmoylan-piin ireland it is merely warm winter with normal dampness12:01
DJonesdavmor2: Yeah, she'd have an umbrella that covered the country to save us12:01
DJonesAh well, forecast is for no rain for the next 10 days, hedges might get a haircut12:02
davmor2DJones: http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/In-the-Bible-it-rained-for-40-days-they-called-it-a-disaster.-In-England-we-call-it-summer..jpg12:02
MyrttiDJones: shush, I like rain. Or overcast. Better than over 22C temp.12:02
Myrtti22C is golden, anything above that is torture12:02
zmoylan-pibut soon we'll have rain _AND_ over 22c temp so raincoats just get wet from inside out...12:03
diploNooooooo!!!!!! Myrtti12:03
davmor2Myrtti: I think people on the rack might disagree with you :)12:03
DJonesMyrtti: I like cold or dry heat, not this junk we've got now, humidity  wrecks me12:03
Myrttiagree with the humidity being a pain12:03
diploSame as DJones12:03
davmor2pfff it's only 81% humidity wusses12:03
DJonesI loved going to Singapore years back, but 100% humidity at 30C waa horrible12:03
MyrttiI just sleep so poorly nowadays, I'm rolling in sweat in the bed. Got two hours of sleep last night12:04
Myrttiit's not good, folks12:04
zmoylan-pimy usual 4 hours of sleep with fan pushing a nice breeze in bedroom12:04
diploWindow open with a fan works for me too12:04
davmor2Myrtti: get a ceiling fan or a dyson jobby or an aircon unit12:05
DJonesMyrtti: +112:05
zmoylan-pia dyson fan?! did she win the lottery?12:06
Myrttidavmor2: mmh, I was tempted earlier in the summer but it's too late now, we've got other stuff to attend to. Can't really keep the windows open all the time for his fear of spiders. Although he's getting better at tolerating them12:06
davmor2Myrtti: never too late in the uk12:06
Myrttioh being in UK has nothing to do with it, it's more about us and our priorities in purchases and the economics of it all12:07
DJonesMyrtti: I wake up around 4:30, with severe sweating, waiting for more hospital tests on my heart, thats even with a ceiling fan12:07
davmor2September is normally the muggiest month12:07
MyrttiDJones: 2:50 last night, stayed awake until 0630ish and napped until 812:07
DJonesMyrtti: Thats a lot like me, wake up early hours, on and off napping four hours after about 2 hours being wide awake12:09
Myrttizmoylan-pi: if you have to have Dyson, there's always http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/dyson_outlet/12:09
Myrttianyway, since my Amazon delivery vigil is now over, I can go for that nap I so sorely need12:10
awilkinsDyson 4tw15:06
awilkinsMy GF has a Henry15:07
awilkinsWe are moving in together. Henry is not coming.15:07
Seeker`Poor Henry15:07
awilkinsi) He doesn't suck very well. ii) Whenever you clean with him, he makes the room smell of feet15:07
Oli+ bags15:08
awilkinsEveryone heard the news about who's gonna be PM? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10616420/frown.png15:08
OliI wish Dyson would buy them and make a 4KW professional bagless wheelie-Dyson. Their current line of "Animal" products fail quite hard when you have a golden retriever.15:09
davmor2awilkins: henry and gtech are both better options than dyson we discovered :(15:11
OliOr, buy them (numatic) and iRobot (of Roomba fame) and build a house-super-cleaning Dalek15:11
diddledanwe got a new pm?15:29
foobarryis it the matron stormtrooper from force awakens?15:29
diddledanwe have15:29
diddledanandrea pulled-out?15:30
diddledantheresa reminds me of maggie15:31
evilchristeli cannot help but fear that when she's done with us we'll think of maggie as the kind, considerate grannie that we wish we still had15:32
diddledanfoobarry: does she look tired to you?15:36
foobarryalso...captain phasma15:36
=== DanChapman is now known as DanChapman__
diddledanso this is a thing: http://www.boycottdocker.org/20:03
diddledanit's very random and ranty and I can't make any sense out of it at all20:03
Myrttibtw Brian Cox just started in BBC120:03
marshmndiddledan: I think that's been around for some time?20:54
marshmndiddledan: personally, I find Docker to be an incredibly helpful piece of the modern web development stack20:55
marshmnmaybe there are improvements to be made, rival technologies to thrive - but at least for now, Docker has changed the world quite a bit20:55
diddledanwhat annoys me is there seem to be two camps for webdevs: docker and vagrant. (of those that use a separate env for their work)20:58
diddledanso I'm finding that there are some tools which want each20:59
diddledanvagrant is really annoying in that it requires a VM20:59
diddledanor at least most people's implementation of vagrantfiles require such20:59
marshmnI used to use Vagrant21:00
diddledanvagrant _can_ back onto docker but people don't add that support to their vagrantfile21:00
marshmnbut these days I only use Docker really21:00
diddledanthat's my main gripe about: https://github.com/Varying-Vagrant-Vagrants/VVV21:00
diddledanit's a WordPress environment21:01
marshmnwhen I used Vagrant, it was pretty much as the basis for a dev environment only21:02
diddledane.g. if I'm in Windows I can't install a VMM because I wanna use Hyper-v for other stuff21:02
marshmnwith Docker, I have something that I feel comfortable using in dev, staging & production21:03
marshmnand it's so much lighter weight21:03
marshmnI just don't find the need for Vagrant anymore21:03
marshmnnot that I've got anything massively against Vagrant21:03
marshmnI just don't find a need for it21:03
diddledanthe guys behind vagrant have a new thingy: https://www.ottoproject.io/21:04
marshmnmight be interesting21:06
diddledanI get the impression that otto project is kinda like "vagrant doesn't quite work right. let's not fix it and do something completely different instead."21:06
diddledani.e. throw ouot the baby with the bathwater21:06
marshmnquite possibly :)21:06
daftykinsdiddledan: any further arrivals? :)21:29
SebthreeBQM10HDhi daftykins but anyone actusally from UK about :D ?21:31
SebthreeBQM10HDsince my question is for21:31
diddledannope, still waiting21:31
SebthreeBQM10HDdiddledan, where are you from?21:31
daftykinswell that's not very nice :P21:32
diddledanI love you, still, daftykins21:32
* daftykins hugs diddledan 21:32
SebthreeBQM10HDdaftykins, Theresa May as prime minster won't effect you much21:32
diddledansilly keymap21:32
SebthreeBQM10HDdaftykins, if at all21:32
daftykinsoh lawd you're not gonna bring up politics are you ;D21:32
SebthreeBQM10HDwell that's todays news21:33
SebthreeBQM10HDTheresa May will be prime minster probably by Wednesday evening21:33
diddledanthat's better21:33
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat does people think of that?21:33
diddledanI think:21:33
lubotu3Please take political discussion to ##politics-uk. Thank you!21:33
diddledanthat one ^21:33
daftykinsthe reg told me she shares a name with some kind of adult entertainer21:35
diddledanthe reg would know of such things ;-)21:35
daftykinsapparently said entertainer features in The Prodigy's "Smack My B**** Up" music video21:35
diddledanwell bother me: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/someone-just-installed-unity-windows22:59
SebthreeBQM10HDdiddledan, that's old news like two days now23:00
diddledansorry I breathed23:00
SebthreeBQM10HDdiddledan, also using the Windows 10  and Ubuntu thing etc, someone had already installed XFCE even23:01

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