[00:06] <Guest68232> hey
[00:06] <Guest68232> hey people
[00:10] <Eurac> Quick question, bit behind the times, what's the latest LTS release?
[00:10] <Ben64> 16.04
[00:10] <Eurac> THanks
[00:15] <Startrek852> Can someone tell me what the difference between plasma-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, and kubuntu-full is?
[00:15] <broken_> hi all, so i cant install ubuntu on an old HDD that is a replacement in my macbook pro
[00:15] <broken_> i cant write to dev/sda
[00:16] <broken_> i tried in gparted and failed on setting the partition type on sda1
[00:16] <broken_> any help would be epic
[00:16] <broken_> i can see it, i just cant write to it
[00:16] <Ben64> are you using gparted as root
[00:17] <lindenk> hey, can someone running trusty run `timeout --version` and tell me what version it is? :-) . Also, if the flag --preserve-status is named something else on that version
[00:17] <lindenk> or what package it's in
[00:18] <broken_> Ben64 im using it fromt he live cd
[00:18] <broken_> Ben64 - or thumb drive in this instance
[00:18] <Ben64> !info coreutils trusty |  lindenk
[00:18] <Bashing-om> lindenk: sysop@1404mini:~$ timeout --version >> timeout (GNU coreutils) 8.21 .
[00:19] <lindenk> ah, thanks guys
[00:19] <eggbert4> i've got a tmpfs at /run that shows as using 6gb in df, but there arent any sizeable files in there, nor can i see any deleted files in lsof
[00:19] <eggbert4> any clues on where to look next?
[00:19] <Ben64> eggbert4: pastebin the output of 'df -h'
[00:19] <Ben64> broken_: that doesn't change my question
[00:19] <eggbert4> tmpfs           6.4G  6.1G  315M  96% /run
[00:20] <eggbert4> then a du in there shows  about 400k used
[00:20] <eggbert4> its an aws ec2 box running 14.04, though im hoping thats not important to know
[00:20] <Ben64> sudo lsof | grep /run
[00:20] <broken_> Ben64, sorry, I dont know then
[00:20] <broken_> Ben64 day 1
[00:21] <eggbert4> i cant paste that much, but theres not much in the lsof output. udev, systemd, couple shells
[00:21] <eggbert4> ive restarted every process i can access thats in the lsof output, but i cant reboot dbus
[00:21] <eggbert4> actually what am i talking about, heres the output
[00:21] <eggbert4> http://pastebin.com/10KsGqUz
[00:22] <Ben64> try rebooting
[00:23] <Ben64> broken_: do you need anything on that hard drive
[00:23] <eggbert4> yeah as a last resort, but its a prod system
[00:24] <broken_> Ben64 I do not, I pulled it from a PS4 that now has better jazz
[00:24] <Ben64> broken_: then pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[00:27] <broken_> Ben64 I think I now feel like an idiot, still in the dark, but less so
[00:28] <Ben64> broken_: put the output from that command into paste.ubuntu.com , and give the url here so i can see it
[00:29] <broken_> Ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/19031928/
[00:29] <Ben64> well theres your problem, there is no sda
[00:30] <broken_> Ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/19032028/
[00:31] <broken_> Ben64 I can see it in Gparted - its a 500gb hdd drive, just not sure how to proceed here
[00:32] <Ben64> if parted doesn't see it, something is wrong
[00:33] <broken_> Ben64 well, it seems parted cant see it anymore
[00:33] <broken_> it was seeing it a few mins ago
[00:42] <Startrek852> Anyone?
[00:55] <broken_> hi Ben64 sorry, rebooted, seems i somehow unmounted that drive?
[00:55] <broken_> you gave me a command to run - to determine if it was write only? I think
[00:57] <trist4n> meh, i ended up rebooting. naturally problem has disappeared
[00:57] <trist4n> strike this one up as unsolved
[01:03] <latitude> Anyone knows of a mouse pointer theme that inverses the colors based on the background behind the pointer, so as to provide adequate contrast and visibility?
[01:04] <broken_> Ben64 I have started lparted as sudo
[01:05] <broken_> and i cn see unallocated 475GB
[01:05] <broken_> but if i try to add a partition table, it errors out with a input/output error and then the drive dissapears
[01:07] <Ben64> broken_: sounds like your hard drive is busted
[01:07] <SchrodingersScat> sad day for you ;(
[01:17] <Jack42> Hi! Developer c?
[01:24] <EoinDee> hey guys, does anyone know anyone who does freelance work to help me set up GPU passthrough on my machine ? Thanks
[01:39] <Jack42> Do who is developer C?
[01:42] <debidi> Jack42: ##c
[01:44] <hiexpo> Hi all
[01:55] <wirehead> Hello, how do you make a desktop shortcut for a program that isn't in the Applications folder?
[01:57] <hiexpo> right click it maybe
[02:01] <lesa2> Hi, is there a way to nicely close all open apps prior to shutdown?
[02:05] <wirehead> hiexpo, it's a program that runs by terminal, can't quite right-click it
[02:06] <Tameiki> Hello, on my laptop, I have a client.conf correcly set in /etc/openvpn. But my laptop auto-connect this after boot. It is possible to not auto-connect client.conf in /etc/openvpn after boot ?
[02:06] <broken_> Ben64, or possibly that little cable that conects it to the m
[02:07] <broken_> MB
[02:07] <broken_> Ben64 since its pretty much new
[02:07] <lesa2> I mean, is there a way to prevent shutdown to kill all open apps before they "gracefully" close?
[02:11] <Ben64> lesa2: killing them is nice
[02:11] <lesa2> That would prevent "this is embarrassing " and "browser was not properly closed" messages and actual loss of data when there is an unsaved document.
[02:11] <reisio> dun dun dun
[02:11] <Ben64> don't shut down with an unsaved document
[02:13] <lesa2> ben64: Heh, well, I have a script that does that on Xubuntu, but I was wondering if that could be than system-wise
[02:13] <Ben64> not sure what that means
[02:14] <lesa2> It means, if I have an open doc in Writer, it won't let shutdown do it's thing before I click Ok.
[02:15] <reisio> lesa2: you talking about a system running out of battery power?
[02:16] <lesa2> ben64: it is as if SIGTERM is never sent so apps are SIGKILLED.
[02:17] <lesa2> reisio: no I talk about clicking on shutdown button. It is too quick and doesn't let applications close gracefully.
[02:18] <Ben64> seems like the real problem is you hit shutdown when you have unsaved documents and things
[02:18] <chrstphrchvz> ben64, lesa2: let me dare mention how Windows and OS X, if the OS is told to shutdown, any desktop programs prompt the user to save any unsaved work before the shutdown actually happens.
[02:19] <lesa2> chrstphrchvz: exactly.
[02:19] <lesa2> I was wondering if Ubuntu can be set to do likewise?
[02:20] <lesa2> the script I'm currently using does the same but is there a better way?
[02:21] <LordSesshomaru> Hey, I just got a used APC Smart-UPS 1000 with flat batteries, I'm wondering if there's a way to disable alarms under 16.10 like I used to with PowerChute in windows.  Also its connected via serial.
[02:23] <jiajun> how can I set xorg.conf to support high resolution screen? the fonts in the internal screen on my notebook is too small, but it's normal in external screen.
[02:25] <chrstphrchvz> lesa2: looking over a few bug reports, it looks like this has been an issue for a long time (e.g. mechanisms exist to implement this feature but are unused/broken), or outright dismissed as a non-issue on philosophical grounds.
[02:26] <mundus2018> This is pretty weak spam
[02:26] <tgm4883> This is why we shouldn't let children on the internet...
[02:27] <reisio> isn't there a switch for preventing /notice'ing an entire channel?
[02:28] <Ben64> reisio: yes\
[02:29] <YankDownUnder> Fun times. A-yup.
[02:29] <mundus2018> That was cute
[02:35] <fishcooker> i think there is problem with my wired networking https://bpaste.net/show/13370de7c448 last time i used this wired connection 9 days ago ... is it hardware problem because using another wired cable can't connect also  ?
[02:38] <deww> fishcooker: ip addr <enter?
[02:38] <deww> sorry typing with sprained arm
[02:42] <YankDownUnder> fishcooker: eth0? If you type "ifconfig" - does "eth0" show? Or does it have a different name...?
[02:47] <fishcooker> no the default wired connection is eth0, YankDownUnder
[02:48] <fishcooker> i think hardware problem.. how do i check.. any clue would be appreciated
[02:48] <YankDownUnder> fishcooker: Right...as mine is "named" as enp3s0...
[02:49] <YankDownUnder> fishcooker: Have you tried "ethtool" yet?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: A quick check for the hardware ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' has a positive return ?
[03:02] <fishcooker> Bashing-om: https://bpaste.net/show/bfe357c6bc48
[03:03] <fishcooker> https://bpaste.net/show/be42e5fb6ca1 YankDownUnder
[03:03] <fishcooker> i think it is driver problem
[03:04] <fishcooker> am i right
[03:07] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: Well, so far so good . What does the kernek report for the hardware state ' lspci | grep Ethernet ; ip link ls ' ?
[03:07] <Bashing-om> kernel*
[03:09] <fishcooker> Bashing-om: https://bpaste.net/show/2e297984c18b
[03:09] <fishcooker> it looks i can't find eth0 device
[03:12] <YankDownUnder> fishcooker: So then, "lspci" doesn't find anything - at all - on your system? Nothing?
[03:13] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: fishcooker Does not look good for the home team .. what about ' ls /sys/class/net ' ?
[03:15] <fishcooker> $ ls /sys/class/net
[03:15] <fishcooker> docker0  lo  virbr0  wlan0
[03:15] <matt|home> hello. i just installed the latest version of ubuntu for desktop, and the first bootup into it was fine. but when i rebooted , the GUI pops up but there's no navigation or menu bars - its just a blank screen with the background. mouse pointer moves around but doesn't respond to right click
[03:15] <matt|home> i can move between X and the terminals too
[03:15] <matt|home> anyone know what happened?
[03:16] <reisio> matt|home: X cursor?
[03:16] <Jack42> Hello friends !
[03:16] <matt|home> yeah , the default purple background shows up and the mouse/cursor moves around and responds
[03:17] <matt|home> but there's no sidebars, its literally just the background
[03:17] <YankDownUnder> I've had this "crap" happen before. What I ended up doing - in order to force the "ethernet" to be seen was to go into BIOS, turn off COM/LPT ports (therefore freeing up the IRQ's and memory addresses), sometimes even turning OFF the onboard card (if it is an onboard card, if not, removing the card from the system) - doing several "cold" boots, then turning the ethernet back on in BIOS or replacing the card in the machine again -
[03:17] <YankDownUnder> and the system (the kernel) re-found the ethernet. Something worth thinking about as it's actually quick and easy to do...
[03:17] <Jack42> X cursor?
[03:17] <reisio> matt|home: so it's an arrow?
[03:18] <matt|home> yep
[03:18] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: Sorry .. this beats me . Why you can ping local host, but the network card is not recognized by the kernel ... over my head .
[03:18] <matt|home> like, want me to take a pic /
[03:18] <matt|home> >
[03:18] <matt|home> ?
[03:18] <reisio> matt|home: try running DISPLAY=:0 unity from another TTY
[03:18] <matt|home> hm no, but it does pop out some errors, sec
[03:18] <Jack42> Goodbye!
[03:19] <matt|home> do i have to run that as sudo reisio ?
[03:19] <reisio> no
[03:20] <matt|home> mkay, because the error messages im getting are a whole bunch of "missing file x" which makes me think something got fucked
[03:20] <matt|home> i dont know /why/ , i was able to boot into it correctly the first time
[03:21] <reisio> which file/s?
[03:21] <matt|home> a whole bunch, the last message i saw was "error dpkg was interrupted" something something
[03:21] <matt|home> lemme check the log file..
[03:22] <fishcooker1> thankyou YankDownUnder... it sounds like a restart to me, CMIIW
[03:22] <reisio> matt|home: from DISPLAY=:0 unity ? I think not
[03:22] <fishcooker1> ahh sorry for disconnecting
[03:22] <matt|home> reisio - nah, i ran that command, then it had a giant list of "error missing file blah"s printing out, so i decided to try apt-get update , and then from the update was the dpkg message
[03:22] <matt|home> now im forcing it to update
[03:23] <reisio> uhuh, but what I asked about was what files were missing
[03:23] <lickalott> hey all.  Was in earlier and never got my issue resolved.  I have a 32gb flash drive that is only showing 8gb available.  Been through gparted, multiple times, as well as fdisk, and dd (/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1m count=1) and still only shows 8gb.  Anyone got anything on this?
[03:23] <reisio> lickalott: what makes you think it's 32GB
[03:23] <matt|home> reisio - which file in /var/log am i looking for?
[03:23] <reisio> matt|home: for what I asked for? Not any of them
[03:23] <matt|home> damn
[03:24] <lickalott> reisio, it's always been a 32gb
[03:24] <reisio> lickalott: according to what
[03:25] <lickalott> the stamp on the front
[03:25] <reisio> and you bought this from where?
[03:25] <lickalott> it's a lexar.  got it from Fry's
[03:25] <matt|home> mkay lets see if this fals
[03:25] <matt|home> .. fails even.
[03:25] <reisio> lickalott: then take it back to Fry's
[03:26] <subsume> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/nginx how do i get nginx 1.9 instead of nginx 1.1
[03:26] <subsume> i am using 1.604
[03:26] <reisio> it is fraudulent or defective
[03:26] <subsume> err 16.04
[03:26] <YankDownUnder> If the partition table is corrupt, it is likely to show bad "size"
[03:26] <lickalott> thought about it....   it's worked in the past.  I had a live distro on it for a while.  I think something corrupted it after I formatted it again to reuse
[03:26] <reisio> having a distro on it in the past doesn't mean it was 32gb
[03:26] <sponix> subsume: Have you tried a google search on nginx PPA ?
[03:27] <subsume> nvm i am done
[03:27] <lickalott> I understand that......
[03:27] <subsume> err
[03:27] <subsume> dumb
[03:27] <subsume> i needed at least 1.3
[03:27] <subsume> but i have 1.10
[03:27] <subsume> 1.10 > 1.3
[03:27] <matt|home> reisio - thanks for your patience <3 the problem seems to have been solved after i ran those commands, not entirely sure why
[03:27] <lickalott> there is a stamp on the front that shows "32GB" and ive used it in the past at it's full capacity
[03:27] <YankDownUnder> Delete the partition. Create a new partition table. Create a new partition. Check the size.
[03:28] <matt|home> lickalott - sounds like it got broke somehow, flash drives can die on you without any warning
[03:29] <reisio> matt|home: gj
[03:29] <matt|home> thanks again o\
[03:37] <fasdf> hi, does anybody know how GPUs in hybrid graphics systems do switch? Let's say it's a usual laptop Intel + Nvidia/AMD setup, and I'm running two kvm  machines
[03:37] <fasdf> 1st kvm instance has Intel GPU being passthrough into it
[03:37] <fasdf> 2nd kvm instance has nvidia, but I can access vms only with vnc right now
[03:38] <fasdf> (actually didn't try nvidia one, but got intel passthrough working just fine)
[03:38] <fasdf> any ideas how to switch output to intel's gpu so I can see what's happening inside vm on main display?
[03:42] <fasdf> I mean I don't want fancy functionality like sharing graphics memory between two adapters and switching like in mac os x
[03:42] <fasdf> just to switch which one is currently on the output
[03:43] <ap916> Did anyone's unity crashed on changing window animations in Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[04:06] <romain__> kl
[04:19] <jmg> hey guys
[04:20] <jmg> does anyone know how to recover in the case of a laptop with secure boot suffering hardware fail, and trying to use the disk in a new laptop?
[04:21] <YankDownUnder> You can create a USB boot disk from inside of Ubuntu...or, create a liveUSB and work from there...
[04:21] <python90210> what's the best way to image the entire ubuntu disk into a vm?
[04:21] <torchinz> the 16.04 LTS has a buggy software center, no?
[04:21] <jmg> 16.04 is trash.
[04:22] <torchinz> jmg, what do you suggest?
[04:22] <YankDownUnder> torchinz: Best to install and use "Synaptic" - always the best option.
[04:22] <jmg> debian.
[04:22] <tgm4883> lets stay on topic?
[04:22] <torchinz> YankDownUnder, I downloaded synaptics but I am not very familiar with it.
[04:22] <torchinz> jmg, that's true
[04:22] <YankDownUnder> torchinz: More options for package management and installation...
[04:22] <tgm4883> I've used the software center once and it worked fine for me
[04:23] <torchinz> tgm4883, maybe because i am dual booting with win 7?
[04:23] <jmg> anyway i see lots of documentation on how to enable secure boot but no way to disable it
[04:23] <jmg> it seems that wasnt a case that is supported?
[04:23] <tgm4883> torchinz: not sure what that would have to do with software center
[04:24] <torchinz> I installed the 16.04 yesterday, and came upon a blank software center screen -_-
[04:24] <jmg> or is it just boot from usb, chroot, grub-install --uefi-secure-boot
[04:24] <YankDownUnder> The logic of creating a "safe boot" would go hand-in-hand with being able to "undo" the same.
[04:24] <jmg> torchinz: i installed it and got 38 network devices from systemd.
[04:25] <Spider_x> I do however get this: "AWL: Run adv_windowlist from the shell or switch to sbar mode" and maybe any of you know how to switch to sbar mode?
[04:25] <Spider_x> Hey, slightly off topic but any Irssi users in here? I am wondering if there is a script like adv_windowlist but instead of launching a new window for the channels, can I have them in my status bar?
[04:25] <jmg> conclusion i will wait until at least .1
[04:25] <jmg> or until someone decides to roll back the cancer
[04:26] <tgm4883> jmg: social commentary isn't really needed in this channel
[04:26] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[04:26] <jmg> thats not a social comment its a statement of fact
[04:27] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I enable natural scrolling for my usb mouse?
[04:27] <jmg> but further to my original reason to be here, i cant find any documentation on how to recover a secure boot enabled disk
[04:27] <CountryfiedLinux> It lets me switch it for my touchpad but not my mouse.
[04:27] <YankDownUnder> It's truly and obviously Monday.
[04:27] <tgm4883> jmg: Odd. That doesn't look like a support question. It also doesn't look like an answer to someone's request for help. Hmm, I wonder what channel I'm in
[04:27] <CountryfiedLinux> And not my wireless keyboard's touchpad neither.
[04:28] <Spider_x> tgm4883: You are in #Ubuntu !
[04:28] <jmg> tgm4883: allow me to rephrase.
[04:28] <jmg> How do you disable secure boot on an already enabled drive, when the original system the disk is paired to is nonfunctional?
[04:28] <YankDownUnder> CountryfiedLinux: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/solved-natural-reverse-scrolling/3190
[04:29] <jmg> I can't find any documentation supporting this scenario besides an impenetrable wall of bash in the SecurityTeam wiki page
[04:30] <Myrtti> Spider_x: have you considered asking in #irssi? albeit it's quite early for getting replies there, I know
[04:30] <jmg> i'm refering to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SecureBoot
[04:32] <ubernets> Is there a cli command or another easy way to find out the "default Linux timeslice for realtime processes" (RR_TIMESLICE) in Ubuntu.
[04:33] <goddard> how can you specify a host and username in your config if it needs a specific ssh key
[04:34] <YankDownUnder> ubernets: If you want to have a bit of understanding about "time slice" for processing, you might want to read this about "real time" kernel scheduling: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Performance_Tuning_Guide/s-cpu-scheduler.html
[04:36] <Spider_x> Hey any irssi user who can tell me how I can achieve having all my joined channels in the bottom, like 1 (Status) 2(#Ubuntu) 3(Linux) and so on, I am already using adv_windowlist, but it displays the channels in a seperate window and I would like it to be in the status bar.
[04:36] <ubernets> YankDownUnder, thanks I will read it. But right now I just wanted a general idea of how long the general time slices are. I think it is specified as RR_TIMESLICE preprocessor directive in the kernel. Can I read that value from the cli or any other easy way to know what value was used?
[04:37] <YankDownUnder> Spider_x: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61549/how-do-i-configure-irssi
[04:38] <YankDownUnder> ubernets: If I 'm not mistaken, you can read through that in the kernel header files - which can be installed on the system easily enough.
[04:39] <Spider_x> Thanks for the link YankDownUnder I will try and compare it to my config file.
[04:39] <YankDownUnder> Spider_x: Si.
[04:42] <Spider_x> Also this is what I am trying to achieve http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-me6BXSC95-M/UvIAYFdhYmI/AAAAAAAAKxs/fEWMLZjY_9M/s1600/Screen+Shot+2014-02-05+at+10.11.31+AM.png
[04:44] <YankDownUnder> Spider_x: For as much as I'd *LOVE* to pursue assistance in irssi, I am floating in this channel for Ubuntu support, my friend...ergo, it's best to ask irssi questions in the #irssi channel...
[04:45] <Spider_x> Thanks for the channel suggestion, didn't think that irssi was on freenode :D
[04:51] <goddard> how can you specify a host and username in your config if it needs a specific ssh key
[04:52] <goddard> like what if a certain host has 2 ssh accounts with 2 different key files
[04:52] <tgm4883> goddard: in what config?
[04:57] <goddard> tgm4883: ssh config
[04:59] <tgm4883> goddard: so you're trying to connect to a server and the server has 2 ssh accounts with 2 different key files?
[05:05] <Kirito> Does zsh pull the default $PATH environment variable from /etc/environment, or does it use its own thing?
[05:08] <Kirito> ah, seems not, nevermind
[05:36] <anonymous> xersus
[05:36] <xersus> anonymous
[05:52] <xsc> s
[05:55] <python90210> does anyone use ubuntu on the cloud?
[05:56] <python90210> is it cost effective?
[06:01] <Bassem> can't change my screen resolution
[06:01] <Bassem> can't find the option
[06:02] <Bassem> system settings is unknow application name
[06:02] <Grorco> Hello
[06:04] <Grorco> Does anyone know any good free books on the inner workings of ubuntu? I read a little bit of the linux bible the other day but it didn't focus on debian OS's
[06:04] <Grorco> Oh looking for pdf I can download
[06:07] <Tin_man> Grorco, http://www.svecc.com/SLUG/slug_pdf/The%20Official%20Ubuntu%20Book,%207th%20Edition.pdf
[06:16] <Bassem> how can i update unity tweak version 0.0.6
[06:16] <xangua> Bassem: is there something wrong with it?
[06:17] <Bassem> it dosnt have the option to move unti bar
[06:17] <Bassem> also i can see new version 0.0.7
[06:17] <bilb_ono> is there a way to know what installation step installs a library? I am trying to run theano and I get complaints about libcublas libraries not being there. Sure enough they aren't on my system. I would like to understand how to install this library?
[06:18] <Backwards> Does anyone know if Ubuntu kernel 15.10 Wily is Debian? When I apt-get anything I see Debian show up in the repositories.
[06:19] <Bassem> xangua, how can i update it
[06:19] <Backwards> i.e. apt-get update that is.
[06:20] <xangua> 1:17 AM <Bassem> it dosnt have the option to move unti bar /what Ubuntu release is this?
[06:21] <Bassem> xangua, 14
[06:21] <Bassem> xangua, 14.04
[06:22] <xangua> Bassem: you can only move the unity launcher to bottom starting at Ubuntu 16.04, updating unity tweak wrong change that
[06:22] <Bassem> how to update to ubuntu 16.04
[06:23] <hateball> !ltsupgrade | Bassem
[06:23] <Bassem> ok
[06:23] <Backwards> Bassem have you done:  sudo apt-get update       then:    sudo apt-get upgrade   ?
[06:23] <Bassem> xangua, i can't find the option for screen resolution
[06:24] <lonewolf> hi
[06:24] <Guest22596> he
[06:25] <Bassem> xangua, i can't find the option for screen resolution
[06:27] <Backwards> Bassem this should help:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/189246/how-set-my-monitor-resolution
[06:29] <Backwards> Make sure you follow the directions. If you don't know what you are doing, then don't do it.
[06:29] <Tin_man> Backwards, read this link: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian
[06:29] <Backwards> Thanks tin man   :)
[06:30] <Bassem> Backwards, i can't find the display option in system settings
[06:31] <Backwards> Tin Man I read that the kernel I was speaking about was only supported for so many years. I see what you are referring to. Thanks for that link.
[06:31] <Backwards> Bassem right click on the screen and it may show up there.
[06:32] <Bassem> Backwards, no nothing only change background and when i click on it it show nothing
[06:32] <Tin_man> Bassem, that link that backwards shows where the graphic settings are if you read it.
[06:32] <Backwards> Bassem look for more options.
[06:33] <Tin_man> that Backwards gave you
[06:35] <Backwards> Don't change anything if you don't know what you are doing. Bad mistake.
[06:35] <Bassem> Backwards, https://s31.postimg.org/wc9njj7yz/Screenshot_from_2016_07_11_08_32_49.png
[06:36] <Backwards> Changing Monitor modes and resolutions changes voltages on the computer monitor or screen. It could damage the monitor.
[06:37] <Backwards> Especially if the Monitor is a CRT.
[06:37] <Tin_man> Bassem, have you changed anything yet, cause if thats what your seeing, then something is wrong.
[06:37] <Backwards> CRT is Cathode Ray Tube.
[06:40] <Backwards> Bassem that screenshot looks like the Linux Box from H**L
[06:40] <Bassem> Backwards, thats what my setting looks like
[06:40] <Bassem> Backwards, i dont know why
[06:41] <Backwards> Maybe you have what I call:  "Clickitis"
[06:45] <Tin_man> i'd try a reinstall, or try and figure out what graphics driver you need for your graphics card, is there any thing else thats not showing up (graphically)
[06:45] <Backwards> Bassem look at this URL:  http://www.tecmint.com/screen-command-examples-to-manage-linux-terminals/
[06:46] <Backwards> Don't do anything unless you read and fully understand the commands.
[06:50] <Tin_man> Bassem, look at this link, it looks like your screen shot kinda, and I bet if you follow the terminal command in the example i might help, don't think it will hurt.
[06:50] <Tin_man> http://askubuntu.com/questions/453440/missing-system-settings-after-removing-some-packages
[06:50] <Tin_man> i = it*
[06:51] <Tin_man> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:52] <Backwards> Nice work Tin Man   :)
[06:52] <Tin_man> just luck
[06:53] <Backwards> I don't believe in luck. Just RTM.
[06:53] <Backwards> Read The Manual.  :)
[06:54] <Tin_man> back in the old days it was RTFM
[06:54] <Backwards> Years ago when I read the MAN pages I was devastated. It was a nuisance to look at them but as time went on the MAN pages make sense. It takes time to understand them.
[06:55] <Backwards> Tin Man I left out the F   for the kids.
[06:55] <Backwards> hehe
[06:55] <Tin_man> some are kinda cryptic, but there always at your finger tips..
[06:56] <Backwards> Tin Man where are you from? I am U.S.A. Massachusetts.
[06:56] <aiena> Just wondering. I am creating a local web server for testing. I am in sort of a dilemma on how to fix apache permission denied errors. I know chmod 777 will work but it is the wrong way. I gain nothing by doing that. How do I seperate data from the web root and let apache process it. I have my files in the home directory. APache is configured to execute the code from a web root in the home dir.
[06:56] <Tin_man> i rely a lot on looking things up, and i usually find the answer to my problem, if given enough effort.
[06:57] <aiena> I read this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1225594/apache-13-permission-denied-in-users-home-directorybut still unclear
[06:57] <Tin_man> I'm from Kansas City, Missouri, but moved south to the country about 18 years ago little town in south east Kansas
[06:57] <Backwards> Nice to meet you Tin Man. :)
[06:57] <Tin_man> same
[06:58] <Backwards> Aiena Apache2 has a heirarchy to follow.
[06:58] <Backwards> You don't put files in the /home directory.
[06:58] <aiena> Backwards:  Can you explain more. I am new to this apache thing.
[06:59] <aiena> Backwards:  but then I need to be continuosly root to edit them
[07:00] <Tin_man> there is a whole course on Apache, It is a very in depth topic, and would take a bunch of time to even tap the beginning workings of it..
[07:00] <Backwards> You put the files in /var/www/html/<sub-directories>
[07:00] <aiena> ok
[07:00] <plop_its_ellie> you can put the files whereever you want
[07:00] <plop_its_ellie> the webserver user just needs permission to access them
[07:01] <Backwards> Make sure there is an index.html to protect you from scanning.
[07:01] <aiena> plop_its_ellie:  that is what I thought too. SO the user needs to be added to the www-data group so apache can write to a directory
[07:01] <aiena> I mean PHP sorry
[07:02] <aiena> also not sure how to keep data out of the web root so apache cant execute it
[07:02] <Tin_man> aiena, might try some links to help the process: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/tutorials.html
[07:02] <plop_its_ellie> aiena, so if apache is running as www-data then the folder all the files are in must be owned by that user
[07:03] <aiena> plop_its_ellie: ah so owner needs to be www-data with chown
[07:03] <Backwards> I use pUTTY and WinSCP for remote headless work on my servers. They are free softwares for Windows and they work perfectly.
[07:03] <plop_its_ellie> aiena, yes
[07:03] <Bassem> Tin_man, will give it a try
[07:03] <aiena> now how do I allow another user to edit those files say my home user I login as for convinience
[07:04] <plop_its_ellie> why does Backwards need windows o.o
[07:04] <plop_its_ellie> aiena, the user you log in as?
[07:04] <Tin_man> ok, i'm outta here, good luck all, and have a good day/night/eve/morn
[07:04] <hilbilly> add your user name to the www-data group
[07:04] <Backwards> I have many OS Plop. I make all of my money on Windows Boxen.
[07:04] <plop_its_ellie> i normally keep the users seperate and edit them with sudo
[07:05] <Backwards> $1,000.00/customer for Data Recovery is not a bad days work.
[07:05] <plop_its_ellie> Backwards, what do you do?
[07:05] <plop_its_ellie> oh yea
[07:05] <plop_its_ellie> i forgot you were talking about that
[07:05] <plop_its_ellie> Backwards, for drives that are dead, not read?
[07:05] <Backwards> I do Forensic Data Recovery.
[07:05] <aiena> plop_its_ellie:  so its best to su to www-data and edit the files or login as www-data on ubuntu to edit websites
[07:06] <Backwards> Drives that are dead I change the Data Control Board.
[07:06] <plop_its_ellie> aiena, you can just use sudo instead of su
[07:06] <plop_its_ellie> Backwards, cool!
[07:06] <Backwards> You can be root and sudo -i
[07:06] <plop_its_ellie> i assume linux would be the better platform for that sort of stuff tho
[07:06] <aiena> plop_its_ellie:  hmm ok I'm confused
[07:06] <Backwards> Plop I use Debian for Data Recovery. You are correct.
[07:07] <plop_its_ellie> aiena, so example, $sudo nano /var/www/index.html
[07:07] <plop_its_ellie> Backwards, ah
[07:07] <Backwards> Most Data Recovery methods are run in Debian.
[07:08] <Backwards> When I use my Windows box, I reboot to a CD with my Debian software for the jobs.
[07:08] <aiena> plop_its_ellie:  hmm or the graphica sudo variant for other editors
[07:08] <Backwards> Or just use another computer. I have about 20 of them here.
[07:09] <aiena> plop_its_ellie:  what if I switch projects regularly say I have 2 projects and I switch between them what would be a good strategy symplinking to one web root ?
[07:09] <aiena> hmm actually I could create 2 sites in var/www but then switching needs modifying apache config each time I guess no workaround for that
[07:09] <Backwards> Data Recovery is a pains taking method and can take days.
[07:11] <plop_its_ellie> aiena, you can have for example /var/www/example.com and /var/www/example1.com /var/www/example2.com...
[07:11] <plop_its_ellie> you are not running it on a headless server???
[07:12] <plop_its_ellie> i recommend running it on a headless server
[07:12] <Backwards> Plop that is just having two directories with an index.html and files to boot.
[07:12] <plop_its_ellie> no need for a gui, just do sudo nnao /var/www/.../index.html from the console
[07:13] <abrammichael> hey
[07:13] <pikou> hey
[07:13] <plop_its_ellie> oh you mean having 2 different configs for each site
[07:13] <Backwards> Plop don't forget that if you don't have a GUI to see the results of your work, you are in trouble.
[07:13] <plop_its_ellie> idk how apache does it but (i usually use nginx)
[07:14] <plop_its_ellie> Backwards, i was talking to aiena about the gui stuff
[07:14] <plop_its_ellie> sorry
[07:14] <plop_its_ellie> cuz it sounded like he/she was running their webserver on a full desktop
[07:14] <Backwards> Especially with different resolutions of the "CLIENT" who is visiting your server.
[07:15] <plop_its_ellie> anyways im off to bed, night
[07:15] <Backwards> Plop it was nice meeting you.
[07:16] <Backwards> Beddy bye bye. :)
[07:17] <pikou> I've heard that nginx could have more than one site
[07:17] <Backwards> Aiena have you fixed your situation?
[07:18] <aiena> Backwards:  Nto sure how to go. I think I will change ownership of the current projects working directory to www-data an open a gui text editor as root with graphiocal sudo and edit those files and test on localhost
[07:18] <aiena> would that be a fair solution ?
[07:18] <Backwards> Pikou you can have more than one site if you Virtual Box and BIND it to your IP or Domain Name.
[07:20] <Backwards> Aiena can I private message you to  help you?
[07:20] <aiena> Backwards:  that would be nice I was afraid to ask but only if you have time
[07:20] <Backwards> My time is your time.
[07:21] <latemus> why doesnt ubuntu include sash?
[07:21] <pikou> Backwards it's very nice of you
[07:23] <latemus> i mean they include dash
[07:23] <latemus> which, who uses that?
[07:23] <latemus> why stop there, i need sash
[07:24] <pikou> latemus  have you noticed that sh is a link to dash
[07:24] <latemus> i guess bash wasnt a good enough ksh clone? geez, no wonder ian paintedtho wall
[07:24] <latemus> pikou: i have
[07:25] <latemus> pikou: do you point that out to indicate that dash there to be a good posix shell implementation?
[07:26] <latemus> because youd be right, my bad
[07:26] <latemus> xD
[07:28] <pikou> Did i irritate latemus? my bad...
[07:33] <dgsghsth> hello
[07:33] <paulinehanson> is there a known bug in 16.04 with audio? whenever i unplug my headphones from my laptop there's no sound coming from the speakers, i have to log out and in to get sound back
[07:38] <molavy> hi
[07:38] <molavy> i formatted one drive unexpectedly
[07:38] <molavy> how can i recover fiels
[07:38] <molavy> files
[07:38] <ducasse> molavy: restore from backup
[07:40] <molavy> ducasse: there is no backup
[07:40] <molavy> there is one but is very old
[07:40] <folf> !undelete
[07:41] <ducasse> molavy: then do _not_ write any further to the drive, and try testdisk or photorec.
[07:41] <vlt> molavy: Some files (like jpeg, for example) begin with a typical header. There are tools that can read your entire device trying to find such headers and to restore some of your files.
[07:43] <ducasse> molavy: but there are no guarantees, set up backups for the future.
[07:59] <BlackDalek> Is there any kind of external USB fax-voice-modem that will work with ubuntu?
[08:01] <ducasse> BlackDalek: any regular modem should work. just don't buy a 'winmodem', if those are still being made.
[08:04] <BlackDalek> ducasse, I don't think I can use any "regular" modem as I would only have USB ports available. No serial ports.
[08:06] <ducasse> BlackDalek: i doubt that would matter, they would still appear as serial modems - the usb connector is essentially a serial adapter.
[08:11] <BlackDalek> ducasse, ok... that makes sense I guess. Now I assume nearly every external USB modem would a winmodem. Is there anyway to determine if a modem is a "proper" modem before purchasing one? :/
[08:13] <ducasse> BlackDalek: i would ask the manufacturer or seller if the modem requires windows software to function, or if it is indeed a full hardware modem.
[08:13] <Chin> Hi, I'm having some trouble booting my Ubuntu 14.04 server. Directly after the bios splash I get a black screen with a blinking cursor. Smashing the shift button does not open grub. It boot fined previously, only getting the problem after installing updates and rebooting. Any ideas?
[08:16] <ducasse> Chin: you should still be able to get the grub menu, try holding shift instead of spamming it. if that doesn't work, try escape.
[08:18] <Chin> ducasse: still the same - smashing, holding it down, either/both shift buttons. If I do it with my bootable USB in I get an error flashing up about unable to find a fallback.efi - might that be relevant?
[08:19] <Backwards> Chin check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Unable%20to%20change%20Screen%20resolution%20in%20Ubuntu
[08:21] <Backwards> Screen resolution is a big problem with people who come here. I have seen this many times.
[08:22] <OerHeks> Backwards, sure, but Chin has no resolution problem, but an efi boot problem
[08:23] <Backwards> Without knowing the specifications of the video card and the box it is difficult to make a suggestion.
[08:23] <OerHeks> it's a server man ..
[08:24] <Backwards> Same thing.
[08:24] <Backwards> Box ; Server ; Computer
[08:24] <ducasse> Backwards: no, this is probably not a resolution problem
[08:25] <Backwards> I have had this issue myself. I tried a different box and monitor and the parameters changed. A blinking cursor is indicative of that.
[08:26] <Chin> It's used for graphical stuff as well (doubles as a kodi TV), but I can't even get into grub, let alone boot the kernel
[08:27] <OerHeks> Chin, Could not open "\EFI\BOOT\fallback.efi" just wait a couple of seconds and the GRUB should show up ?
[08:28] <Backwards> Chin the link I showed you mentions that before you make any changes be sure to backup your system even if it means image your HD.
[08:29] <Backwards> The smallest change can be disaster.
[08:30] <Chin> OerHeks: Nothing shows up after waiting - the computer was sitting there all day at the blank screen while I was at work. That message only comes up on trying to boot the bootable USB, but only momentarily and then grub shows just fine and boots
[08:30] <Chin> Just doesn't work when booting the HD
[08:32] <Backwards> Chin, this may sound dumb but the screensaver maybe set to 0 seconds which creates a blank screen. I have seen that too. If  you can use a rescue disk and check the screen settings that may help you.
[08:33] <akik> it was a wrong decision to hide the grub boot menu by default
[08:34] <akik> Chin: if you boot the live session, you can chroot into the installation and modify grub's settings
[08:34] <Backwards> Never hide a menu. You can always set it off or on later.
[08:34] <Backwards> They call it a NAG SCREEN or menu.
[08:35] <akik> Backwards: what does grub and nag screen have to do with each other?
[08:38] <Chin> akik: I can get in there, but I'm not really sure where to start on fixing it
[08:38] <Backwards> Menus become a NAG if you don't want to see it. When I boot my Debian box the Grub Loader always shows up. I don't mind. To me it is a NAG but it is a lesson in patience and doing things the way the programmers set things in motion.
[08:39] <akik> Backwards: a nag screen to me is something that i *need* to do something with, for example answer a question again and again. grub menu has a timeout which you can set to 10 seconds and you don't need to do anything for linux to boot
[08:40] <Backwards> Chin, it may just be time to copy all of your important files and reinstall. Just copying all of your important stuff is the important thing right now. Slave the drive and you can check it too.
[08:41] <Backwards> Akik good point. Well taken.
[08:42] <voycey> Hi all, Can anyone shed any light on why Ubuntu did an unattended setup to upgrade PHP to the next major version?
[08:42] <voycey> Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic --hide-main-window --non-interactive --parent-window-id 41943082 -o Synaptic::closeZvt=true --progress-str Please wait, this can take some time --finish-str Update is complete --set-selections-file /tmp/tmpYvzUB1
[08:42] <voycey> Install: php7.0-json:amd64 (7.0.8-3+deb.sury.org~trusty+1, automatic), php7.0-cli:amd64 (7.0.8-3+deb.sury.org~trusty+1, automatic), php7.0-common
[08:43] <voycey> actually I assume it is because of the sury ppa
[08:44] <Backwards> Voycey, you may want to disable the auto-updates. I only use sudo apt-get update.
[08:45] <ducasse> voycey: must be the ppa, this would not happen in a plain trusty install.
[08:45] <Backwards> I have this hatred for any software talking to another server without my knowing about it.
[08:47] <Backwards> I have never used a .hosts file with Ubuntu. I use it all of the time with Windows.
[08:49] <Backwards> This is a good webpage for those who use host files:   http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/
[08:51] <Backwards> The only problem with creating a hosts file is that it takes up RAM.
[08:51] <Backwards> But your computer runs faster surfing the web.
[08:51] <ducasse> Backwards: take the random chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[08:52] <Backwards> Ducasse take your own advice too.
[08:56] <blut> Hello. I am installing ubuntu and it tells me it cant install linux-generic, however the error is very strange. http://ix.io/12D8
[08:56] <blut> Apparently it can't resolve de.archive.ubuntu.com, however a ping works alright
[08:57] <blut> Same error on 'apt update'
[08:57] <YankDownUnder> blut: Could be high traffic and time of day affecting the transfer.
[08:57] <Backwards> Blut are you running a 32 bit machine or 64 bit machine?
[08:57] <blut> Backwards:  x86_64
[08:58] <blut> YankDownUnder: I don't know. I had this issue on Friday before I left for the weekend.
[08:58] <Backwards> I keep on seeing in the post 64 AMD showing up.
[08:59] <Backwards> Do you have a 64 bit AMD box?
[09:00] <k1l_> Backwards: the 64bit patent is from amd. but intel uses the same technology. that is why its called amd64.
[09:00] <YankDownUnder> In most instances, due to high traffic, THAT will be the error. You can always try to change the update sources to something different - if your machine is currently trying to hit the German servers, change it to the Russian servers or Japanese servers.
[09:00] <minimec> blut: Your archive mirror in Dresden is not reachable right now. Try later or change the mirror.
[09:00] <k1l_> blut: using some proxy or vpn?
[09:00] <blut> minimec: Yeah I will try a different mirror
[09:00] <blut> k1l_: No proxy or vpn.
[09:01] <Backwards> Blut have you done a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[09:02] <blut> Backwards: This is during the installation, but in a chrooted console on /target 'apt update' gives the same error.
[09:02] <minimec> blut: Choose one of the mirrorlist. There are plenty in Germany... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[09:02] <Backwards> Blut did the install boot and open up?
[09:03] <blut> minimec: The institute I work at is literally right next to a data center that hosts a number of linux distros. I will use that one.
[09:03] <blut> minimec: I expected archive.ubuntu.com to resolv to the data center instead of dresden anyways
[09:03] <Backwards> Blut I think you may have to choose a different distro.
[09:04] <minimec> blut: Also the 'Dresden mirror' shows 'Last update unknown'...
[09:04] <blut> Backwards: The install started alright and all.
[09:04] <blut> let me try a different mirror
[09:04] <ducasse> Backwards: no, he just can't reach that particular mirror right now
[09:05] <Backwards> The mirror may be offline Ducasse.
[09:05] <ducasse> Backwards: that was sort of what i was saying...
[09:05] <k1l_> could be a routing issue from your ISP
[09:06] <Backwards> K1l that is a good point.
[09:08] <Backwards> Some but probably lots of Service Providers use NXDOMAIN rerouting protocol.
[09:09] <YankDownUnder> Servers temporarily being "unavailable" is not an uncommon thing. Either patience, or merely changing the sources - is generally the easiest option. Patence being the easiest of all because it requires no expenditure of energy.
[09:10] <Backwards> YankDownUnder, you  hit the nail on the head with the word: "patience"   Not everyone has enough of it.
[09:11] <YankDownUnder> Patience and common sense are in limited supply.
[09:11] <Backwards> That was a good one.
[09:12] <Backwards> YankSownUnder, please put mine on a back order. :)
[09:13] <seventy> What is currently being recommended as THE LINUX LAPTOP? Are we still talking dualboot/VM macs?
[09:13] <Backwards> Perhaps a simple reboot or softboot may work. There may be a stack overflow issue.
[09:13] <YankDownUnder> The only thing that has changed in the past 26 years is line speed and connection. It's all the same otherwise.
[09:13] <Backwards> Seventy have you tried VBOX?
[09:14] <Backwards> YankDownUnder, good point.
[09:15] <Backwards> YankDownUnder, in all my years of Engineering and Design, it all comes down to basics. Know the basics and then you can advance to the other issues.
[09:16] <blut> seventy: what is the linux laptop?
[09:17] <Backwards> Blut have you fixed your computer issue?
[09:19] <blut> Backwards: don't know just yet. I just learned that the debian-installer is unwilling to continue an installation because /target/dev/null already exists ;)
[09:19] <Backwards> Ducasse, I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.
[09:20] <ducasse> Backwards: what? how? no.
[09:20] <Backwards> Good.
[09:20] <Backwards> Nice to meet you.
[09:26] <blut> Alright I just retryed, and I have the same issue with ftp5.gwdg.de
[09:27] <Backwards> Ducasse have you ever met Jarkko Oikarinen?
[09:27] <blut> so apparently it's not a server issue but something with apt
[09:27] <Backwards> I met him when he created the IRC.
[09:28] <k1l_> Backwards: we focus on technical ubuntu support only in here. for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:29] <blut> I mean, it's odd that ping works, but apt has resolution issues
[09:29] <Backwards> Blut my honest suggestion if you don't have any data on the hard drive to save just not only delete it but completely format it. If you don't format a drive residual data exists.
[09:29] <k1l_> blut: do you use a specific mirror? usually it changes the servers from the loadbalancer
[09:30] <blut> Backwards: I was talking about the server issue. I format the disk.
[09:31] <Chin> Fixed it thanks to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[09:31] <blut> k1l_: I used de.archive.ubuntu.com, which resolved to the Technical University Dresden and when someone suggested server issue I switched to the data center which is 500m from here, ftp5.gwdg.de
[09:31] <Backwards> I use DOD  Department of Defense  Data Destruction and swipe the hard drive and delete all vestiges of any data and encrypt the destruction. I do this all of the time and it takes a bit of time but it works better than just re-installing a kernel.
[09:31] <Chin> Cheers for the advice
[09:32] <blut> Backwards: the hard drive really isn't the issue here
[09:32] <k1l_> Backwards: that is not related to the issue the user got
[09:33] <Backwards> It is related because when you install over and over again the data is still on the disk and works against the new installation. I do this for a living.
[09:33] <blut> k1l_: I'm using a network installation and the base system is installed properly
[09:33] <k1l_> Backwards: no it isnt.
[09:33] <blut> That sounds like a 1990 FS issue
[09:33] <Backwards> Data destruction over a network connection is very difficult.
[09:34] <blut> Backwards: what?
[09:34] <ducasse> Backwards: what _are_ you on about? please stick to the issue.
[09:34] <Backwards> I am on the issue.
[09:34] <Backwards> Blut has an install issue.
[09:35] <blut> You are correct. I have an aptiude resolution issue.
[09:35] <Backwards> OK figure it out by yourself.
[09:37] <Apachez> so ehm wassap with startup disk creator in 16.04?
[09:37] <Apachez> seems to have changed how the usb is created
[09:37] <Apachez> and now some laptops refuse to boot from the usb drive :S
[09:38] <blut> Ok, so any help would really be appreciated. apt refuses to resolve the server, while ping with the same hostname works perfectly fine. It is not a temporary server issue; I tried with different mirrors. http://ix.io/12D8
[09:38] <blut> ping me
[09:40] <hateball> blut: have you tried forcing IPv4?
[09:41] <blut> hateball: No, but I'm open to trying if you can tell me what you mean by that
[09:41] <hateball> blut: sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true
[09:42] <hateball> altho it does resolve properly it seems, hmm
[09:42] <hateball> I didnt read your paste
[09:42] <blut> hateball: Still the same issue anyways.
[09:42] <blut> For me the surprising thing is that ping resolves, but apt doesn't
[09:43] <blut> unfortunately I don't know any of apt's internal workings
[09:44] <blut> Seeing how I'm installing 16.04 and all, could I somehow use snappy for the installation?
[09:44] <ducasse> blut: not for the base, no.
[09:45] <blut> ducasse: before the linux-generic install, the base installs correctly.
[10:01] <StatelessCat> Hey
[10:06] <StatelessCat> Why the temperature of my CPU is available randomly on /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/temp1_input or /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp1_input ? This is very annoying to specify a file path for a desktop widget to show the temperature.
[10:06] <StatelessCat> Is there a solution to make this path permanent ?
[10:07] <EriC^^> StatelessCat: what possibilities does it have?
[10:07] <StatelessCat> I noticed only two: /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon{1,2}/temp1_input
[10:08] <StatelessCat> EriC^^: Your nick make me feel happy to read :)
[10:08] <EriC^^> :)
[10:08] <EriC^^> try using that in the path
[10:09] <EriC^^> if it does shell stuff before getting it
[10:10] <StatelessCat> Pattern like that '{1,2}' are not acceptable in i3status configuration.
[10:10] <EriC^^> oh
[10:10] <EriC^^> any regexp stuff? can you call a shell from it?
[10:11] <StatelessCat> a workaround could be to write a script that is loop reading the value of both, get the good one and copy it to a file or a pipe un /tmp... and cron it...
[10:11] <StatelessCat> and specify the input value as my /tmp file...
[10:12] <StatelessCat> EriC^^: not any regex seems accepted by i3sttaus config
[10:12] <EriC^^> yeah that sounds good
[10:12] <StatelessCat> EriC^^: i'm checking the documentation of i3status
[10:12] <EriC^^> maybe let it do a sym link in /tmp/temp1 to the good one
[10:12] <StatelessCat> EriC^^: better :)
[10:12] <StatelessCat> symlink or hard link ?
[10:13] <EriC^^> symlink
[10:13] <EriC^^> i think that works, let me try
[10:13] <StatelessCat> nothign mentionned regexes on the i3status documentation
[10:13] <EriC^^> yup it works
[10:15] <StatelessCat> yes :)
[10:16] <EriC^^> maybe add in ~/.profile ln -s /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.[0-9]/hwmon/hwmon[0-9]/temp1_input /tmp/temp1
[10:17] <EriC^^> quick and easy :D
[10:17] <StatelessCat> OMG it works ?
[10:18] <EriC^^> i think so
[10:18] <StatelessCat> I was writing something with 'if [ -e ""]'
[10:18] <StatelessCat> nice :)
[10:19] <EriC^^> :)
[10:19] <blut> EriC^^: But what is the return if /tmp/temp1 already exists; E.g. on a new login?
[10:20] <StatelessCat> blut: -f :)
[10:20] <blut> ^^
[10:20] <EriC^^> good point
[10:21] <StatelessCat> '-f', '777', '2> /dev/null', 'cat /dev/urandom' solves almost everything ^^
[10:21] <EriC^^> xD
[10:21] <StatelessCat> blut: seriously, what is the problem ?
[10:22] <Triffid_Hunter> StatelessCat: presumably a race condition while identifying available hardware monitor devices during startup
[10:23] <dennisj_> hi, i just installed xenial as a VM on a centos 7 kvm host and while i can ssh into the VM fine the graphical console only shows a black screen.
[10:23] <EriC^^> it would give an error that the symlink exists, if he logged into tty1 for instance
[10:24] <dennisj_> when i boot the VM with the video driver "vga" i only get a black screen, when i use "cirrus" i get a purple screen saying "Ubuntu 16.04" followed by a black screen
[10:25] <EriC^^> right blut ?
[10:25] <dennisj_> any ideas what the problem could be?
[10:25] <StatelessCat> Triffid_Hunter: I see no race condition here. Just a error if the symlink already exist.
[10:25] <blut> EriC^^, StatelessCat: what are you hammering me about an issue? I just pointed out, you should add -sf instead of -s for the symlink.
[10:26] <Triffid_Hunter> StatelessCat: nono the race is why it sometimes changes name after reboot
[10:26] <EriC^^> blut: ok, no need to be rude, just confirming the error it would cause. cheers
[10:26] <Triffid_Hunter> StatelessCat: you may be able to find a more persistent symlink to it via /sys/bus/... somewhere
[10:26] <blut> EriC^^: Alright. I didn't mean to offend you.
[10:26] <EriC^^> blut: no worries
[10:27] <StatelessCat> blut: same as EriC^^, I just want to be sure what you had in mind when saying this (:
[10:27] <hgutmann> Hello.
[10:28] <hgutmann> I'm currently trying to reset network interface names in 1604, the hardware of the system changed and now I get enp2s0 instead of enp0s0.
[10:28] <StatelessCat> Triffid_Hunter: ok.
[10:28] <hgutmann> Does anyone know where the mac-addresses <-> ifnames are stored?
[10:28] <hgutmann> There is nothing related in /etc/udev/rules.d
[10:29] <hgutmann> well /etc/systemd/network is empty.
[10:29] <StatelessCat> thanks *
[10:31] <akik> hgutmann: that directory is the correct one
[10:32] <StatelessCat> blut: sorry for being unclear in my last answer. And thank you for tips>
[10:32] <hgutmann> akik, there are no files in that directory.
[10:32] <hgutmann> directories.
[10:32] <akik> hgutmann: doesn't matter. they'll be used when you create one
[10:32] <OerHeks>  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[10:33] <akik> hgutmann: here's an example: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTR{address}=="00:0e:c6:88:19:3b", NAME="eth1"
[10:33] <hgutmann> akik, I don't want to create new hw-address rules there since the image will be depoloyed on many systems.
[10:33] <akik> hgutmann: ok.. ?
[10:33] <hgutmann> On many hardware-identical systems. Still I'd really prefere to have names of enp0,1,2
[10:34] <hgutmann> instead of system1 enp0,1,2 system2 enp2,3,4
[10:34] <pawandubey> \leave
[10:34] <akik> hgutmann: you can go back to the previous style of interface naming with kernel parameter net.ifnames=0
[10:34] <hgutmann> akik, could be a solution. But still it has to be saved somehere.
[10:34] <akik> hgutmann: well that's the directory
[10:35] <hgutmann> akik, I just moved the disk to the new system. On the old hardware I had enp0,1,2 now it is renamed to enp3,4,5
[10:36] <hgutmann> Therefore I assume that the hwaddress are stored somehwere.
[10:36] <akik> hgutmann: oh
[10:36] <akik> hgutmann: i'm so tired of these systems changing from release to release
[10:36] <hgutmann> but /etc/udev/rules.d is empty. same as /etc/systemd/network
[10:36] <Triffid_Hunter> hgutmann: probably in /var then
[10:36] <Triffid_Hunter> hgutmann: sudo grep -R enp0 /var, if no results try again with /etc
[10:36] <hgutmann> Triffid_Hunter, tried to grep around there, but so far no luck.
[10:38] <akik> hgutmann: how about /lib/udev/rules.d ?
[10:38] <Triffid_Hunter> yikes, it shouldn't be writing into /lib that casually :/
[10:38] <akik> there shouldn't be configuration files in /lib
[10:39] <akik> but that's how it is nowadays with systemd too
[10:40] <FMan> thank you to all
[10:41] <dennisj_> just found the solution to my blank screen problem: in /etc/default/grub change 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"' to 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""'
[10:45] <theptr> Maybe stupid question but it it possible apt-get install only get's arm64 packages from the ppa ?
[10:47] <k1l_> theptr: apt grabs the proper packages for you automatically. but the ppa needs to build arm packages.
[10:47] <theptr> k1l_, okay because when i do like apt-get install firefox it always takes the wrong one
[10:47] <k1l_> (which is not standard for PPAs to build arm packages)
[10:48] <theptr> k1l_, okay yeah because i use a Pine64 as a daily secondairy computer
[10:50] <theptr> k1l_, So if i understand you correct the apt-get command searches for the package and if there is nog arm64 i takes just amd64 ?
[10:50] <k1l_> theptr: no. if there are no proper architecture packages it will not grab anything.
[10:51] <theptr> k1l_, but now it grabs amd64 everytime ...
[10:51] <hateball> sure you havent enabled multiarch ?
[10:51] <k1l_> are you sure not to have added the amd64 architecture yourself?
[10:51] <theptr> It's just the stock pine64 os based on longsleep ubuntu
[10:52] <theptr> but its always when im trying to install firefox
[10:52] <hateball> theptr: cat /var/lib/dpkg/arch
[10:52] <k1l_> i guess you need to ask the pine guys what they changed on the original ubuntu
[10:53] <theptr> hateball, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19067969/
[10:53] <theptr> k1l_, yeah thats mybe the best thing to do
[10:53] <hateball> theptr: what does apt-cache policy firefox say?
[10:54] <theptr> hateball, going to check
[10:54] <abhvl> hi
[10:55] <abhvl> it should not matter if i write rails_env=dev && rake command or rake command && rails_env=dev right? or does that matter?
[10:55] <abhvl> it just sets the env var for whole os?
[10:55] <akik> abhvl: no and no
[10:56] <abhvl> ??
[10:56] <akik> abhvl: && executes the following command if the first succeeded
[10:56] <abhvl> akik: thats fine. thats not the question.
[10:56] <akik> abhvl: and that just sets a shell variable, not for whole os
[10:57] <akik> it's local to that shell
[10:57] <abhvl> akik: thats fine. but if in same shell on first line i do rails_env=dev and enter and on second line rake command then this and my first example both are basically same right?
[10:57] <theptr> hateball, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19068184/ i also have to say that i have been trying to install 47.0 manual by dpkg -i
[10:58] <akik> abhvl: it's not the same if you use && on one line
[10:59] <abhvl> akik: both are just setting a env var ? can you please provide some link to doc?
[10:59] <k1l_> theptr: are you confused by arm64 and amd64?
[10:59] <akik> abhvl: if you run two commands on separate lines, there is not checking whether the first succeeded
[11:00] <theptr> k1l_, little bit it's because i had some errors that is was a amd64 package
[11:00] <abhvl> akik: yeah. but checking if first succedded or not is not point of discussion.
[11:00] <k1l_> theptr: dont install amd64 packages on arm. they wont work.
[11:00] <k1l_> theptr: then show the errors in a pastebin
[11:00] <theptr> k1l_, yes i know that
[11:00] <akik> abhvl: you lost me somewhere. that's what you asked
[11:00] <theptr> k1l_, it's just the apt-get install does something strange
[11:01] <k1l_> theptr: show the output
[11:01] <abhvl> akik: no thats not what i asked. the example confused you.
[11:01] <theptr> k1l_, it installs just okay en when i they to run the package i get an error wrong architecture
[11:02] <ajay__> hii
[11:02] <abhvl> akik: i did rails_env=dev enter rake command. someone tells me i should not do this. he says i should do rails_env=dev && rake command. do you think there is any difference between the two regarding rails_env part? not the rake command part.
[11:02] <theptr> k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19068520/
[11:02] <abhvl> akik: he says i should write it one one line using && . i asked whats the difference. he dont have answer.
[11:03] <k1l_> theptr: is that a mad64 package?
[11:03] <k1l_> *amd64
[11:03] <theptr> k1l_, i think so i just do a apt-get install firefox
[11:03] <akik> abhvl: actually what you should run is "rails_env=dev rake command"
[11:03] <hateball> abhvl: if you're just setting an env you dont need even need to press enter, you can just "blah=blah command"
[11:04] <akik> abhvl: that makes it so that the variable is available to the rake command
[11:04] <confident> Hello fellow Ubuntuers
[11:04] <k1l_> theptr: no. you said you isntalled it manually with dpkg loading that .deb package
[11:04] <abhvl> hateball: i can do anything thats not question. questios is, are those two things differenc or same?
[11:04] <akik> abhvl: i answered to your && question up there
[11:05] <theptr> k1l_, the manually package is = firefox_47.0+build3-0ubuntu0.16.04.1_arm64.deb
[11:05] <abhvl> akik: ^
[11:05] <abhvl> yes
[11:05] <theptr> k1l_, but that also doesn't work
[11:05] <abhvl> akik: but even if i executed them on two different lines still the env var is avilable to the rake command no?
[11:05] <abhvl> akik: both commands are in same shell. only lines different
[11:06] <akik> abhvl: yes but it's called shell variable if you don't use export
[11:06] <abhvl> akik: i dont need export.
[11:06] <theptr> k1l_, when i do a apt-get install firefox i get an architecture error when i install it manually it starts en then closes out of it's self
[11:06] <k1l_> theptr: "sudo apt purge firefox" then do a clean "sudo apt install firefox "again
[11:07] <theptr> k1l_, okay going to give that a try
[11:07] <tatertots> k1l may the force be with you
[11:07] <johnny_> hey whats up guys
[11:08] <johnny_> did someone ever uses a raspberry pi for homegrowing_
[11:09] <tatertots> isn't it #rasberry-pi
[11:09] <tatertots> oops i mean #raspberry-pi
[11:09] <akik> abhvl: here's how those variables work: http://pastebin.com/raw/nnvfzJaB
[11:09] <theptr> k1l_, just did that now when i click on the firefox button i just hangs
[11:10] <theptr> k1l_, going to do a reboot . be right back
[11:10] <johnny_> MATE
[11:13] <theptr> k1l_, okay did a reboot now when i click on firefox nothing happens, but when installed with dpkg -i - get the splash screen and then it's gone
[11:13] <tatertots> theptr...k1l just had you uninstall then reinstall firefox using apt-get.....what happens if you simply type 'firefox' in terminal?...or have you already clicked your 'button' again
[11:13] <tatertots> ?
[11:13] <theptr> tatertots, yeah i already clicked the button , should i reboot and try to run in in terminal ?
[11:14] <tatertots> theptr do nothing but type 'firefox' in terminal
[11:14] <tatertots> and press ENTER
[11:14] <abhvl> akik: my discussion is not about shell vs global variables.
[11:14] <theptr> tatertots, now i get lots of errors but firefox starts , your my hero of today
[11:15] <abhvl> akik: my discussion is only about shell vars. i understand that they will remain temporar and to this shell only.
[11:15] <akik> abhvl: actually what you should run is "rails_env=dev rake command"
[11:15] <abhvl> akik: ok. but "if" i ran rails env=dev press enter rake command does it make difference to rake?
[11:15] <tatertots> so you typed 'firefox' in terminal and pressed ENTER, and you got errors in terminal....let's see those errors
[11:15] <johnny_> maybe try sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:15] <abhvl> akik: y or n?
[11:16] <akik> abhvl: unknown
[11:16] <johnny_> z
[11:16] <johnny_> y
[11:16] <abhvl> akik: :-(
[11:16] <theptr> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19069279/
[11:16] <theptr> k1l_, hateball,  also thankyou for your time
[11:16] <akik> abhvl: in the case 2: i tested, bash was not aware of the shell variable created in the previous shell
[11:17] <Tameiki> Hello all
[11:17] <abhvl> akik: it is aware. see https://gist.github.com/abhijitnavale/6c05ba509b2ecc9a8d07952a880469ce
[11:18] <tatertots> thanks for showing us the errors when simply typing 'firefox' in termnial
[11:18] <abhvl> akik: that means my pressing enter and doing rake command on another line should not make any difference?
[11:18] <tatertots> it appears from the errors that '(firefox:2422): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.'
[11:18] <tatertots> and
[11:18] <tatertots> Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[11:18] <Tameiki> I have a client.conf in my /etc/openvpn folder, and after boot my laptop auto connect to him. It is possible to disable this feature (autoconnect) and connect manually ? (without move the client.conf)
[11:18] <akik> abhvl: i already told you i don't know but i also told you how you should run the rake command
[11:19] <abhvl> :-(
[11:19] <tatertots> and (firefox:2422): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-main.css:69:33: Failed to import: Error opening file: No such file or directory
[11:19] <johnny_> use chrome!
[11:19] <abhvl> you dont know = you dont want to answer. you fear.
[11:19] <theptr> tatertots, also i have to say firefox only works as root
[11:19] <tatertots> theptr......First make sure your library language is installed
[11:19] <theptr> tatertots, how do i do this ( i really don't know)
[11:19] <ducasse> abhvl: why don't you ask in #bash?
[11:19] <akik> abhvl: what are you on about now? why would i lie to you?
[11:20] <abhvl> ducasse: ok
[11:20] <abhvl> akik: nothing. thanks for trying to help.
[11:20] <akik> abhvl: you don't want to receive instructions, do you
[11:21] <abhvl> akik: right. because i was not looking for what "should be" done.
[11:21] <abhvl> akik: but even in that case, thanks for pointing out that i dont have to use && even on same line. thats really nice.
[11:22] <theptr> tatertots, i found some guide on ask ubuntu
[11:22] <theptr> tatertots, but the error stays ...
[11:23] <ducasse> Tameiki: is this on 16.04?
[11:23] <tatertots> theptr run this command and pastbin the output please 'ls -ld /var/log/installer'
[11:23] <Tameiki> ducasse: Yes, 16.04
[11:24] <ducasse> Tameiki: i'm not sure, but you might get away with 'sudo systemctl disable openvpn.service' to prevent openvpn from starting at boot.
[11:24] <tatertots> theptr so you found 'some guide' on ask ubuntu and the error stays? I'm almost afraid to ask what you did. Just reply with the out put of the command please
[11:26] <theptr> tatertots, don't be afraid what could go wrong :)
[11:26] <boriseto> Why did a device appear in disks in ubuntu 16.04 called Loop Device (can see it's connected to snaps)?
[11:26] <tatertots> theptr run this command and pastbin the output please 'ls -ld /var/log/installer'
[11:26] <ducasse> Tameiki: there is supposed to be an individual service unit for each openvpn config, but i'm not sure if those are generated at boot or static.
[11:26] <k1l_> theptr: remove the .mozilla/firefox account in your home
[11:26] <k1l_> theptr: but after all it sounds like you did a mess to your system.
[11:26] <aiena> what is the Meta key in ubuntu ?
[11:26] <Tameiki> ducasse: Done. I'll check that at my next reboot. Thank you :)
[11:26] <theptr> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19069864/
[11:27] <theptr> k1l_, yeah maybe ... :) i always keep smyling because i only can learn from this stuff
[11:27] <ducasse> Tameiki: not sure if it will work, if it doesn't, try to disable openvpn-whatever.service
[11:28] <Tameiki> ducasse: Ok
[11:28] <tatertots> that doesn't tell me how long and since when you've been at it...i'm sure someone will help you but make your life easier and reinstall already
[11:28] <ducasse> aiena: meta is typically alt
[11:28] <tatertots> if you thought firefox was the only thing wrong ....lol....
[11:28] <zai> hi guys. $SOMETHING is messing with my volume settings on different occasions (e.g. when I plug in headphones, receive emails, etc.). dmesg and dbus-monitor didn't help me pinpoint what it is. any idea how to debug?
[11:29] <theptr> tatertots, from what i find on the www this error is in the basic clean install already so
[11:29] <theptr> tatertots, clean install wont help i think
[11:29] <tatertots> theptr run this command and pastbin the output please 'ls -ld /var/log/installer'
[11:30] <tatertots> you claim this is a clean install already eh?.....i notice you avoid running and pastbin the output i've suggested several times so we can see just how "fresh' this install is
[11:30] <brunch875> ugh evolution isn't using online-accounts. It worked before without issues and now it's giving a hassle. Did an update break anything?
[11:30] <theptr> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19070058/
[11:30] <tatertots> my gut tells me it's not fresh at all and you've had plenty of time to make a mess of things
[11:31] <theptr> tatertots, no thats not what i was saying , you get me wrong
[11:32] <theptr> tatertots, the locale error is already in the clean image it's not just running a cd to get it installed you have to grab the image from the pine guys and run phoenixcard
[11:32] <ducasse> theptr: just a suggestion, but maybe the people in #ubuntu-arm will know more about your system?
[11:33] <theptr> ducasse, okay going to give it a try
[11:34] <tatertots> omg now i find out this guy isn't using a standard desktop install...not only that..he's using a arm7 based system lol ....good times
[11:34] <theptr> tatertots, yeah that's what im trying to tell
[11:35] <theptr> tatertots, that's i also need the arm64 package k1l_ was helping me with
[11:37] <vmuser> hello!
[11:37] <tatertots> theptr out of curiosity what make/model is your system?  or who is the vendor?
[11:38] <tatertots> is this some type of tablet or something? i'm just curious
[11:38] <theptr> tatertots, going to provide you a link if thats okay for you
[11:38] <OerHeks> pine64, a wannabee rasp-pi
[11:38] <tatertots> ah i see pseudo rasp-pi
[11:39] <theptr> tatertots, https://www.pine64.com/ 2GB model
[11:39] <theptr> tatertots, i backed it back in the days on Kickstarter
[11:40] <theptr> tatertots, so before i was running a dell touch laptop with ubuntu 14.04 never had problems so i was thinking the pine64 is smaller but i had not a good start with it for now
[11:41] <tatertots> ah ...rasp-pi caught my eye years ago for a few minutes ......these devices sure seem to be growing in popularity...i'm kinda curious what the heck it is that most of these folk plan on doing with such devices......actually i take that back...not very curious at all really lol
[11:42] <ducasse> theptr: their custom os does not have the best reputation...
[11:43] <theptr> ducasse, is there a better soluttion or do i better start using my dell again ?
[11:43] <tatertots> they are cute though
[11:43] <OerHeks> they provide an ubuntu image too http://files.pine64.org/os/ubuntu/xubuntu-xenial-20160501-longsleep-pine64-8GB.zip
[11:43] <ducasse> theptr: rpi3?
[11:44] <theptr> OerHeks, thats the image im running now ...
[11:44] <theptr> ducasse, i have a rpi3 but it's just a little to slow with ubuntu mate
[11:45] <ducasse> theptr: then you better ask in #ubuntu-arm, or stay on x86
[11:45] <theptr> ducasse, yeah i already asked there okay going back to my intel :)
[11:47] <theptr> ducasse, the only thing is i really wanted to know what cause the errors just for learning stuff
[11:48] <ducasse> theptr: as i said, everytime i hear about the pine64 it's because of problems with their os images, so i stay away from them.
[11:49] <theptr> ducasse, okay
[11:50] <ducasse> theptr: if the rpi3 runs slow with mate you could just try a window manager
[11:51] <theptr> ducasse, going to give it a shot .. are you always on the ubuntu channel ? so i can ask stuff about it ? it seems you know a lot of arm :)
[11:52] <ducasse> theptr: i don't, really, just have an rpi right now. i'm here most days.
[11:52] <theptr> ducasse, okay thanks
[11:55] <BlackDalek> Does anyone remember the URL for the archive of this channel? I need to look back about 3 hours ago ;)
[11:55] <BlackDalek> and my window won't scroll up 3 hours ago ;)
[11:55] <lyze> BlackDalek, https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[11:55] <BlackDalek> thanks
[11:56] <lyze> I think there's a command as well ...
[11:56] <lyze> !logs
[11:56] <yudi> hi rc
[12:01] <andro> hi
[12:01] <tatertots> hi andro
[12:01] <andro> i need some help
[12:01] <hateball> !help | Guest36982
[12:01] <tatertots> andro if you're using ubuntu you came to the right place
[12:01] <Guest36982> yea.
[12:02] <Guest36982> i'm using ubuntu
[12:02] <Guest36982> anyone here security researcher?
[12:02] <yudi> how to switch to the gnome flashback in v14, I dont want to install any new  desktops, just want to use the classic gnome? whats the quick way
[12:02] <abhvl> http://www.imagemagick.org/script/binary-releases.php which file to download for ubuntu? solaris will do?
[12:02] <abhvl> need to install latest version.
[12:03] <OerHeks> abhvl, you need a .deb or build it yourself
[12:03] <abhvl> OerHeks: i want to build myself. but using which file?
[12:03] <ducasse> abhvl: source
[12:04] <abhvl> ducasse: i cant fine soure. the one avilable is clearly marked for solaris
[12:04] <abhvl> oh. got it.
[12:04] <ducasse> abhvl: that link clearly lists binaries
[12:04] <abhvl> yeah. i missed that.
[12:36] <Aliekezhi> hi, I would like to install an Ubuntu version before 16.x, that may be for long term use. Which version do you advice me to install ?
[12:36] <hateball> !lts
[12:36] <hateball> Aliekezhi: That would be 14.04
[12:36] <hateball> 12.04 goes EOL next year
[12:37] <Aliekezhi> hateball, does it mean on 15.x there will not be no more updates after a certain time ?
[12:38] <lyze> Aliekezhi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases look here, there are all versions with release date and end of life date (supported) listed
[12:38] <OerHeks> 15.10 goes EOL 28th this month
[12:38] <OerHeks> only 14.04 is a suitable answer to your question
[12:38] <Aliekezhi> OerHeks, lyze, hateball thx, I'll go for 14.04 then :)
[12:39] <OerHeks> get the 14.04.4 image ... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.4/release/
[12:39] <Aliekezhi> OerHeks, hum, in 2 month, it's 14.04's end of life ?
[12:40] <ducasse> Aliekezhi: no, 2019
[12:40] <OerHeks> no, april 2019
[12:40] <Aliekezhi> then this table is wrong ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[12:41] <OerHeks> there are point releases, 14.04 LTS, 14.04.1/2/3/4 ...
[12:41] <Aliekezhi> oh sorry
[12:41] <OerHeks> np
[12:47] <fpqc> hey, any idea why rxvt's text is rendering nice and smooth but it's rendering like ugly garbage in tilda?
[12:48] <fpqc> also gnome-terminal
[12:51] <ducasse> fpqc: both of those use the vte library for terminal rendering, urxvt has its own code
[12:51] <fpqc> ducasse so how can I get libvte to render my fonts right?
[12:52] <fpqc> like, the difference is astonishing
[12:52] <OerHeks> Perhaps you need to install rxvt-unicode ?
[12:52] <ducasse> fpqc: no clue, i only use urxvt.
[12:52] <fpqc> rxvt-unicode is what I have installed, OerHeks
[12:52] <fpqc> rxvt-unicode-256color it works amazing
[12:52] <fpqc> what doesn't work amazing is gnome-terminal and tilda
[12:53] <fpqc> they are basically hideous
[12:53] <fpqc> the main problem I think must be related to the fact that I'm not running on a full ubuntu system
[12:53] <fpqc> and so whatever automatically configures fonts and such like is not fully functional
[12:54] <ducasse> fpqc: try adding this to ~/.Xresources - http://paste.ubuntu.com/19075172/
[12:54] <fpqc> ducasse I have that already
[12:54] <fpqc> that's why urxvt looks so cood
[12:54] <fpqc> *good
[12:55] <fpqc> let me repeat, what's looking awful is the stuff covered by fontconfig
[12:56] <ducasse> fpqc: are they also set for gtk?
[12:56] <fpqc> nope I have nothing set for gtk
[12:56] <ducasse> fpqc: try lxappearance
[12:56] <fpqc> gtk fonts are not looking too hot either, but I'm only running terminals mainly
[12:56] <fpqc> ducasse, will that set the gtk stuff?
[12:57] <ducasse> fpqc: yes
[12:58] <fpqc> ducasse hmm also I deleted my fonts.conf that I dled earlier
[13:02] <ducasse> fpqc: shall i pastebin mine?
[13:02] <fpqc> ducasse your font.conf?
[13:03] <ducasse> fpqc: yes.
[13:04] <fpqc> sure thanks
[13:04] <fpqc> and where should I install it?
[13:05] <ducasse> fpqc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ - ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf
[13:05] <ducasse> fpqc: sorry, a sec
[13:06] <ducasse> fpqc: http://termbin.com/dyh0 - pastebinit messed up.
[13:09] <fpqc> yeah, can't tell if it's any better directly
[13:09] <fpqc> I think it looks a lot better
[13:10] <ducasse> fpqc: try a few different fonts and sizes to test.
[13:10] <fpqc> oh wow it looks a lot better
[13:10] <fpqc> I jacked up monospace to size 14
[13:10] <ducasse> fpqc: \o/
[13:10] <fpqc> it's not like falling apart and horrible
[13:10] <fpqc> yeah whatever the problem was was what the problem was lol
[13:10] <ducasse> fpqc: i'm honestly a bit confused by linux font rendering...
[13:11] <fpqc> ducasse see the thing is, I'm using the ubuntu on windows thing, which doesn't have official support for X
[13:11] <fpqc> and dbus we only have working with a hack
[13:11] <fpqc> but I really wanted to get tilda working for IRC purposes lol
[13:14] <fpqc> actually it's not looking much better lol
[13:14] <fpqc> at least with inconsolata
[13:14] <ducasse> fpqc: yeah, well, i'm not surprised if that messes things up...
[13:14] <fpqc> ducasse actually urxvt works like a dream
[13:15] <fpqc> whatever, I'll get used to the ugly font on tilda
[13:16] <fpqc> I mean, ideally MS will come out with an actually working terminal emulator for windows eventually
[13:16] <Qommand0r> haha, why would it actually work?
[13:17] <Qommand0r> there's 3rd parties for that
[13:17] <fpqc> Qommand0r, nope
[13:17] <fpqc> they all use conhost
[13:17] <Qommand0r> MS always leaves lots of room for improvement
[13:17] <Qommand0r> so to say
[13:17] <fpqc> conhost is the Windows Console Host
[13:17] <fpqc> it does not support Xterm escape sequences
[13:17] <fpqc> input or output
[13:18] <fpqc> currently the bash.exe wrapper for the bash pico process runs as a Windows console application, so its direct i/o go to conhost.exe
[13:18] <fpqc> If you have an X server running, you can run bash.exe to start a terminal in X and then use that to bootstrap all sorts of nice and functional things
[13:18] <fpqc> but the entry point is ugly and broken
[13:19] <fpqc> bc conhost basically
[13:21] <fpqc> idk whatever, I have irc working in tilda, as ugly as it looks, and I can open up urxvtc if I need a terminal for work so all is well
[13:24] <akik> fpqc: how about conemu in windows?
[13:25] <fpqc> akik uses conhost
[13:25] <fpqc> it can only be improved when MS improves conhost
[13:25] <fpqc> I already asked maximus5
[13:26] <fpqc> what that means is no mouse support for weechat, no 256color support, etc
[13:26] <fpqc> what you can do is run PuTTY in ConEMU as a GUI application, then connect that to sshd running on the windows subsystem for linux
[13:27] <fpqc> but child gui applications in ConEMU are pretty buggy, and it's a lot more satisfying to be able to have a terminal and ssh if you want to
[13:28] <fpqc> I even have set up (using a cool program called cbwin by a guy named xilun on github) the ability to make it so clicking a link in weechat in tilda will pipe the url to my windows browser
[13:28] <akik> fpqc: putty in windows is able to accept mouse movements and clicks in elinks
[13:28] <fpqc> yep
[13:28] <fpqc> PuTTY can
[13:29] <fpqc> but PuTTY can't be quakelike
[13:30] <fpqc> also setting up sshd to run on windows requires a pretty annoying hack
[13:30] <ducasse> could we please get back to ubuntu issues?
[13:30] <fpqc> ducasse yeah I came for ubuntu font stuff
[13:30] <ducasse> ...on windows...
[13:31] <fpqc> yeah but windows isn't involved with this part to be frank
[13:32] <fpqc> is there any way in linux to do some sort of trace thing that shows you all of the config files that a program reads on startup?
[13:32] <fpqc> or where its dbus config is or whatever
[13:33] <akik> fpqc: strace does that, strace -e open
[13:34] <fpqc> so if I were going to do that with tilda
[13:34] <fpqc> I would do strace -e open tilda?
[13:34] <akik> fpqc: yes
[13:34] <fpqc> cool thanks
[13:35] <akik> it'll show much more that the config files
[13:35] <fpqc> will it show where its font configuration is?
[13:35] <akik> fpqc: try it?
[13:35] <ducasse> not if that is called by a library, i think.
[13:36] <fpqc> yeah and it's called by libvte
[13:37] <dimitrio> hi
[13:39] <dimitrio> hola
[13:39] <ducasse> !es | dimitrio
[13:41] <capum321> hello
[13:43] <wwwi> hello
[13:44] <capum321> i am trying to redirect do-release-upgrade to a file, no success.
[13:44] <ducasse> capum321: try 'script'
[13:44] <capum321> sorry, i didn't understand
[13:45] <wwwi> suppose you insert a usb stick in a Ubuntu PC. you open a txt file on the stick with Kate. then you eject the stick. what happens? Kate closes the txt file or it keeps it open in memory?
[13:45] <ducasse> 'man script'
[13:45] <john_rambo> I want to enable spell check as I type on libreoffice writer. I have selected .... Tools > Language > For all text > English US ....but still its not checking the spellings...What to do ?
[13:45] <janust> hi. i am having a problem with /etc/hosts on 14.04 lts. even though i insert a line with the correct syntax (using spaces), and i reboot the machine, the record is not resolvable
[13:46] <janust> i test using "nslookup progether.local"
[13:46] <janust> and the line in /etc/hosts is progether.local 10.13.13.104
[13:46] <dimitrio> hi
[13:46] <janust> wwwi: i don't know if kate would keep the file open while you edit it... probably not
[13:46] <ducasse> janust: the address comes before the host name in /etc/hosts
[13:47] <janust> ducasse: oh sorry. i did in fact do this correctly, i just used the wrong syntax here... so that was not the problem
[13:47] <ducasse> wwwi: the file would remain in memory, but you would need to save to another location
[13:47] <janust> wwwi: i am pretty sure the file would still be visible on the screen
[13:47] <ideasman42> popey, \o (dont know if you mind me asking). but any updates wrt OpenToonz snappy package? Or some repo I can use to check its progress? - We had a few people asking for packages now.
[13:48] <wwwi> I see
[13:48] <wwwi> thank you both
[13:48] <janust> how can i test the parsing of /etc/hosts?
[13:49] <capum321> ducasse: the file is 0 bytes ?
[13:50] <ducasse> janust: aiui, nslookup will ask the nameservers directly, not consult hosts
[13:50] <janust> so i need to use getent?
[13:50] <wwwi> sometimes I get a message like this: system problem detected, program crashed. is this normal? I used to get it relatively often, but now it is rarer
[13:50] <ducasse> capum321: then do-release-upgrade either redirects or starts a new shell.
[13:51] <ducasse> janust: probably something like that
[13:51] <ducasse> wwwi: look in /var/crash for any files to see what crashed
[13:51] <wwwi> ducasse: ok
[13:52] <akik> janust: if you use the dnsmasq dns server (127.0.1.1) you'll also get entries from /etc/hosts
[13:52] <janust> ok thanks ducasse, getent seems to work
[13:52] <capum321> ducasse: so it should be `sudo script -c do-release-upgrade file.log`
[13:52] <janust> akik: ah... but dnsmasq will be replaced by systemd, i prefer sticking to the stock config...
[13:53] <wwwi> ducasse: it's empty
[13:53] <akik> janust: dnsmasq will be replaced. of course
[13:53] <ducasse> capum321: if do-release-upgrade redirects the output that won't help, i think
[13:53] <v1s> I running ubuntu 16.04 server I have a usb2eth adapter connected to wan and then I have the built in eth and wifi for local network. I am using hostapd / bridge-utils / dnsmasq. The wan is working fine but only one system connecting to the wifi is pingable and I see other sytems in the dhcp client list but cant reach any of them any ideas ? can post any conf to check
[13:53] <KHendrik> has anyone here successfully used a rtl8192su wifi dongle in ubuntu?
[13:53] <akik> janust: can you link to that dnsmasq news?
[13:53] <Hulio> hi guys, is there sftp setting that when login , it will go to user's home folder?
[13:54] <Hulio> or redirect to specific folder?
[13:54] <ducasse> wwwi: in that case all is good
[13:55] <capum321> ducasse: how would manage then ?
[13:55] <janust> akik: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-May/039350.html
[13:55] <janust> akik: upcoming changes: https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html
[13:55] <akik> janust: thanks
[13:56] <ducasse> capum321: no idea, i don't know exactly what do-release-upgrade does internally. you might need to copy+paste.
[13:57] <capum321> ducasse i have this ubuntu server on a netbook here beside me, so can't copy + paste
[13:57] <janust> akik: hacker news discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11845051 reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4msf97/sad_news_today_systemdresolved_to_be_deployed_in/
[13:57] <kwek> hello.. I cant seem to install any new packages after upgrade from 14.10 to 16.04.. any help is apreciated: http://pastebin.com/enYrXeGB
[13:58] <ducasse> capum321: ok, then - i don't know any other ways.
[13:58] <capum321> ducasse, I don't know precisely how to describe what a shell is, but if it is like a new window that opens to execute part of the command, then yes, this happens with do-release-upgrade
[13:58] <hateball> kwek: you probably have some PPAs active for 14.10
[13:58] <capum321> ducasse: you don't know what it does internally? what you mean ?
[13:59] <kwek> hateball: so manually remove them from sources.d?
[13:59] <hateball> kwek: yes, at least comment them out or change from... whatever 14.10s codename was, to xenial
[14:01] <wwwi> ducasse: ok
[14:02] <ducasse> capum321: by that i mean "i haven't read the code".
[14:02] <capum321> ducasse: it updates the release ?
[14:03] <paranoidabhi> hi
[14:04] <paranoidabhi> I noticed this weird issue in kde 5.6.5(kubuntu 16.04). Please have a look https://bugs.launchpad.net/variety/+bug/1589790
[14:04] <ducasse> capum321: i know what it's for, but i don't know how the code is written to actually do it.
[14:04] <capum321> ducasse: am i right about the shell ?
[14:04] <Guest22568> need help fixing ctrl+alt+backspace, it apears to be broken, fresh install of ubuntu 16
[14:05] <ducasse> capum321: you might be, i haven't looked at it.
[14:05] <jat-clone> Guest22568: ctrl-alt-backspace is disabled by default
[14:06] <ducasse> Guest22568: '/usr/bin/setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp'
[14:06] <capum321> ducasse, if you looked and finds it runs in a new shell... so what would I do to redirects output to file ?
[14:06] <Guest22568> so pretty much my only choice is to find a different distro that does work?
[14:06] <jat-clone> is disabled by default for a reason
[14:07] <ducasse> capum321: i've told you, i don't know any way to do that.
[14:07] <Guest22568> alright, thanks
[14:07] <ducasse> Guest22568: i just told you how to do it.
[14:07] <capum321> ducasse all right, is like an impossible task ?
[14:08] <ducasse> capum321: basically.
[14:08] <capum321> there is no way to do that
[14:08] <capum321> shi*
[14:08] <capum321> bad time
[14:16] <sveinse> Is dynamic multi screen setup on Ubuntu still dodgy? I'm having huge problems getting my third monitor up my laptop running 16.04 (Gnome shell). X seems to be crashing, as I get the login window once more
[14:16] <sveinse> But other times it does work
[14:17] <tatertots> I use dual monitor, never tried a third
[14:17] <ducasse> sveinse: works like a charm on my setup, but that is a desktop with i3
[14:17] <tatertots> works like a charm for me
[14:17] <akik> Guest13284: i remember something that it was xorg's dontzap option
[14:18] <quackgyver> what does sudo checkinstall do? i was told to run it as the last step in installing Python 2.7
[14:18] <sveinse> If I go into settings -> display, I find all three displays. However when I enable the last display, which is off, and select "Secondary display", one of two things might happen:
[14:18] <ducasse> akik: you're right, but you can also enable it with setxkbmap while the server is running.
[14:19] <akik> ducasse: i was thinking of a permanent solution for him
[14:19] <ducasse> akik: ah, ok :)
[14:19] <sveinse> a) it crashes when I press apply and I get gdm all over again or b) The displays are numbered 1 - 2 - 2, so the window with the actual screen setting in gone in the middle it seems
[14:20] <sveinse> This is a laptop, so I'm on the move and I need it to work with the display combinations I use in the various work locations
[14:20] <ducasse> quackgyver: it will build and install a package, but you should really upgrade to a newer ubuntu if you want newer python.
[14:21] <quackgyver> ducasse: i accidentally said "n" to something that it recomended i say yes to
[14:21] <quackgyver> then it got stuck on "copying files to the temporary directory"
[14:21] <tatertots> which mobile gpu is in your laptop sveinse?
[14:21] <quackgyver> so i aborted, ran it again
[14:21] <quackgyver> and now its not asking me q's anymore
[14:21] <quackgyver> it just automatically goes to the "copying files" step again and nothing happens
[14:21] <quackgyver> im so immensely confused
[14:22] <ducasse> quackgyver: as i said, upgrade ubuntu rather than manually upgrading python
[14:22] <quackgyver> I'm not sure I understand
[14:22] <quackgyver> My Ubuntu is up to date
[14:22] <ducasse> quackgyver: what ubuntu version are you running?
[14:22] <quackgyver> whichever the latest lts is
[14:22] <tatertots> quackgyver are you running ubuntu 16.04? yes/no?
[14:23] <ducasse> quackgyver: then just install python from the repos
[14:23] <quackgyver> 2.7 is available there?
[14:23] <sveinse> tatertots: i7-3820qm and nvidia Quadro K2000M
[14:24] <ducasse> quackgyver: python2.7 is the packagename
[14:24] <sveinse> I think I'm running nouveau right now
[14:24] <ducasse> quackgyver: (or just 'python', which depends on 2.7)
[14:25] <quackgyver> Alright, thank you.
[14:25] <quackgyver> Will what I've done so far interfere with what you're suggesting somehow?
[14:25] <sveinse> out of box ubuntu
[14:25] <quackgyver> Since I ran some kinda setup and cancelled it halfway through
[14:25] <tatertots> Yo sveinse http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-quadro-2000-us.html
[14:25] <ducasse> quackgyver: not if the package didn't install.
[14:25] <quackgyver> well it mightve half-installed?
[14:26] <tatertots> 3 ( 2 out of 3 active at a time )
[14:26] <seig> hey
[14:26] <ducasse> quackgyver: i doubt it, checkinstall builds the package and installs it at the end.
[14:26] <sveinse> tatertots: afaik, you can't use the dedicated nvidia drivers on a mobile chip, can you? At least on windows you can't
[14:26] <seig> hey brothers
[14:27] <tatertots> sveinse i wan't talking about drivers man...that's what your 'hardware' supports
[14:27] <seig> so;eone can help ;e
[14:27] <seig> someone can help me
[14:27] <ducasse> !ask | seig
[14:28] <capum321> ducasse: something like this error "utf-8 codec can't decode byte 0xe9" and 0xe7 ?
[14:28] <ducasse> capum321: what gave you that error?
[14:28] <capum321> ducasse: something like this error "utf-8 codec can't decode byte 0xe9 in position 1"
[14:28] <sveinse> tatertots: with all due respect, I don't care about what my hardware support. I mean, I know it can do what I need because I do that in windows. I just need to fix my linux desktop
[14:28] <capum321> ducasse do-release-upgrade
[14:29] <quackgyver>  ducasse: Okay. Thanks for taking the time to explain.
[14:29] <ducasse> capum321: not sure where that comes from, could be a locale error. what was it doing? did it say anything else?
[14:29] <seig> i finde port open in website and his payload is http-version
[14:30] <ducasse> quackgyver: no problem :) always check in the repos before building or installing things manually - ask here if you need help.
[14:30] <ExecSlim> seig: what website?
[14:31] <capum321> unicodedecodeerror: ´utf-8´codec can't decode byte 0xe9 in position 1: invalid continuation byte / Command terminated with exit status 1
[14:31] <seig> badoo.com
[14:32] <ducasse> capum321: what are you upgrading from/to?
[14:32] <sveinse> On a general basis, has Linux/xorg/ubutu made it possible to move a portable laptop dynamically, where it remembers the display settings for each setup yet?
[14:32] <quackgyver> ducasse: Great! Thanks again. :)
[14:32] <ExecSlim> seig: what issue are you experiencing?
[14:32] <capum321> ubuntu 15.10 to latest
[14:33] <capum321> `sudo do-release-upgrade`  Prompt=normal
[14:33] <tatertots> i have a laptop and docking station with monitors attached and linux remembers my docked/undocked display config just fine
[14:33] <seig> zitn db-nmap and metasploit pro and
[14:33] <ducasse> capum321: sorry, no clue. did you fully update 15.10 first?
[14:34] <ExecSlim> seig: I'm really sorry but I have to go; if you found a security issue with the website it would probably be best to report it to the webmaster; otherwise someone else might be able to help you
[14:34] <OerHeks> seig, this channel is not for hacking badoo.com
[14:34] <seig> i mean i scan with db-nmap and i enter with metasploit using http-version and the ip of serveur
[14:34] <capum321> ducasse: followed this tut https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[14:34] <seig> this channel for what
[14:35] <capum321> seig help supporte assistance
[14:35] <ExecSlim> !offtopic | seig
[14:35] <ducasse> seig: we won't help you. period.
[14:36] <capum321> ouch
[14:36] <kwek> i'm still having the same apt issue.. i did clean my sources.list.d and sources.list just has the canonical xenial: http://pastebin.com/DPfFr7zC
[14:36] <seig> help me what do you mean
[14:36] <ExecSlim> !guidelines > seig
[14:37] <ducasse> capum321: ah, now i understand - you are upgrading a vps? then do-release-upgrade spawns a screen session, that is why you couldn't redirect the output.
[14:38] <sveinse> ooi, those of you running laptops with Ubuntu 16.04, is dynamic display changes working? In the sense that it remembers a display combination an applies the last used configuration for that combination? Like win and mac does?
[14:39] <capum321> ducasse, a vps ? well it isn't virtual ?! it is on a netbook beside me
[14:39] <OerHeks> sveinse, normally ubuntu remembers yes
[14:39] <ducasse> capum321: but you are doing it over ssh?
[14:39] <capum321> ducasse: not at all
[14:39] <capum321> ducasse: i have phically with me
[14:40] <capum321> phisically
[14:40] <ducasse> capum321: ok, then i don't know why you can't redirect. i've never seen that error before either.
[14:43] <capum321> oh lawd have mercy
[14:48] <el> hola
[14:53] <tamarind> hello all,. i am trying to connect my laptop to wifi after newly configuring the modem.. i use the same password in mobile and laptop .. mobile connects and laptop doesnt.. how do i debug this !
[14:54] <tamarind> earlier the laptop use to connect fine,, i think i configured WPA2 AES  after the reset, i suspect that might be issue... but i am not sure how to check whether network adapter support AES or not
[14:56] <tamarind> guys are my messages reaching the server ?
[14:59] <OerHeks> tamarind, i think you want WPA2 + personal
[15:00] <tamarind> OerHeks: theres TKIP or AES or TKIP/AES right ?
[15:01] <tamarind> OerHeks: oh yea, i selected WPA2 personal only.. as Enterprise needs a Radiues server or something
[15:01] <OerHeks> tamarind, i was just checking, no tkip/aes
[15:05] <dethredic> Hi, I'm currently running Ubuntu 15.10, and I have freetype 2.5.2 installed. I would like to downgrade freetype to 2.4.8 (which is in the Precsie repo). What is the best way to go about doing this? I have a lot of packages which depend on freetype (although they should be fine with the older version).
[15:06] <BirdPerson> dethredic, any reason you're running an older version and downgrading packages?
[15:07] <dethredic> I need to for a project I'm working on. The newer freetype donesn't always render the same which is breaking tests
[15:10] <ducasse> dethredic: you know 15.10 goes eol soon, right?
[15:11] <tamarind> OerHeks: oh sorry then
[15:11] <tamarind> i checked AES only
[15:13] <ducasse> tamarind: use aes, tkip is deprecated and no longer considered secure
[15:14] <tamarind> ducasse: i used AES only but i suspect that it might be thereason for not being able to connect
[15:14] <tamarind> how do i check whether my network card supports AES ?
[15:15] <ducasse> tamarind: i've never come across that, but i guess it's possible... don't know how to check, though.
[15:17] <tatertots> tamarind are you connnected via wired or have connectivity at all on the system in question?
[15:17] <tatertots> 'iw list' you may need to install 'iw' ...that's why i asked if you were connected
[15:18] <tatertots> this will list your wlan adapter capabilities
[15:18] <tamarind> tatertots: good question.. let me check with LAN cable
[15:18] <tamarind> tatertots: i am now connect frm the laptop using usb stick
[15:19] <tatertots> run that cmd and share the output if you don't mind
[15:19] <al2o3-cr> iw list | grep CCMP
[15:22] <tatertots> tamarind ..you got quiet ...i'll assume you're off to the races.....although i really hate assuming
[15:24] <tamarind> tatertots: http://pastie.org/private/vaaopdkn0qbnmxhimzra
[15:25] <tamarind> al2o3-cr: CCMP (00-0f-ac:4)
[15:26] <tamarind> under line 44 to 50 there is no AES
[15:27] <tamarind> this means that the reason why i am not able to connect is due to the mode setting with AES right ?
[15:27] <tatertots> cool
[15:27] <tatertots> tamarind that should be enough info on your wireless adapter ;)
[15:28] <tamarind> tatertots: i guess you are a good guy and wont use the info wrongly :D
[15:28] <emetsipe> bahahaha but I might! j/k
[15:28] <tatertots> what type of access point/router do you have tamarind?...are you not running it in 'mixed mode' for greatest device compatibility?
[15:28] <al2o3-cr> tamarind: that means AES is supported
[15:29] <tatertots> tamarind i'm a friendly person i would never do anything malicious...it's simply not in my nature
[15:30] <acdc1234> hi
[15:30] <tatertots> although i did kill a spider once
[15:31] <tamarind> tatertots: i have a Teracom Ltd TDSL 300W2, did not make any setting called "mixed mode"
[15:31] <emetsipe> hey, if a spider only attacks when it's threatened, it should expect the same from us...
[15:31] <tamarind> emetsipe: you are too old for that, now go and take your pills
[15:31] <emetsipe> but i find all spiders threatening...
[15:32] <emetsipe> tamarind, how do u know how old i am? and i already took my pills...getting ready for my nap :)
[15:32] <tamarind> al2o3-cr: but between line 44 to 50 there is no AES mentioned !  CCMP 00-0f0ac:4 means AES ?
[15:32] <al2o3-cr> tamarind: correct
[15:33] <tamarind> tatertots: spider killing is ok :D
[15:33] <tatertots> well tamarind would you like to change you settings to allow your wlan adapter to connect?
[15:34] <tamarind> emetsipe:  the number of  dot you put after the pills were three when you wanted to type one. Shows your shaky hands :P
[15:34] <emetsipe> tamarind: you got me...
[15:34] <emetsipe> :)
[15:35] <tatertots> tamarind I think that's a ADSL modem...unless it had integrated router you must have a wireless router connected eh?
[15:35] <tamarind> tatertots: yes for sure. Let me check about the mixed mode now. thanks
[15:35] <tamarind> tatertots: it has a integrated router
[15:36] <tamarind> i was using the same mode/router and the same PC earlier to connect to internet. Unfortunately forgot the password and had to reset the modem and after which i am not able to connect :(
[15:36] <tatertots> ah i see...that happens to the best of us
[15:37] <tatertots> i just modded my router the other day and had to reconfigure it again.....good times
[15:45] <yw> can someone suggest an irc channel for vncserver/ubuntu issues ?
[15:45] <tatertots> yw is the port open?
[15:46] <tatertots> i'm guessing your issue is you can't connect eh?
[15:46] <tatertots> just a wild guess
[15:47] <tamarind> tatertots: when you say mixed mode - what does it do ? allows multiple encryption to support wide range of devices ?
[15:49] <yw> tatertots: since you offering help, I installed vncserver as in https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-14.04, port seems open (tcp6       0      0 [::]:5901               [::]:*                  LISTEN      1452/Xvnc4 ), but you are right - can't connect and see some errors in vnc log -  http://paste2.org/Jkc3e5jX
[15:50] <tamarind> tatertots: al2o3-cr thanks a lot for your time and knwoledge share
[15:50] <ducasse> yw: it's only listening on ipv6, according to that
[15:51] <tatertots> tamarind it lets you connect with adapters that are either a/b/g/n/ac ect
[15:52] <RickyB98> is it possible to make a directory accessible to the owner only, not even to root? maybe encrypting it or something, though i want to be able to execute processes from that directory
[15:52] <tamarind> tatertots: i selected b/g/n mode
[15:52] <tamarind> earlier*
[15:52] <tatertots> but it sounds like from what you describe you just simply forgot the password/passphrase
[15:52] <rypervenche> RickyB98: root has access to change anything.
[15:52] <yw> ducasse - interesting, I have the same on my other system and can connect with no issues, are you suggesting to try IPv6 address?
[15:52] <tamarind> tatertots: i use the same password in my mobile and it connects fine
[15:53] <RickyB98> rypervenche: no exception?
[15:53] <davis> hello
[15:53] <ducasse> yw: you can try
[15:53] <ducasse> RickyB98: no.
[15:54] <RickyB98> encrypting wouldn't work either?
[15:54] <RickyB98> i mean, tell me why..
[15:54] <rypervenche> RickyB98: Not to my knowledge. You can hide things, sure, but anyone with knowledge and root can access it. If you encrypt a directory, they will have read access while it is decrypted.
[15:54] <ducasse> RickyB98: you can't hide anything from root, essentially
[15:54] <davis> im using 16.04 desktop. it appears that a local dns server is setup, but I don't see a /etc/named.conf file.  Where is the dns server ips stored?  If use the gui I see the entries for dns server, is the only place to change it?
[15:54] <RickyB98> okay gotcha
[15:55] <teward> davis: 'local nameserver' as in bind9 / named is installed and running?
[15:55] <teward> davis: /etc/bind/... for the bind9 configs.
[15:55] <teward> if it's on a Desktop though it's probably via dnsmasq and not bind9
[15:55] <teward> and IDK where those ones are
[15:56] <ducasse> davis: try /etc/resolvconf/* and /etc/resolv.conf
[15:56] <rypervenche> RickyB98: What is your end goal?
[15:56] <RickyB98> okay this is the situation i'm trying to get around: someone asked me to do some stuff on their server (namely installing and administrating a minecraft server), and that's gonna be paid, though he's not paying in advance, because he wants to see job done... but at the same time, i don't want him to get the files and everything and just run away..
[15:56] <RickyB98> yeah i was about to explain :P
[15:56] <davis> teward: /etc/bind does not exist. /etc/resolv.conf only has localhost entry.
[15:56] <tatertots> tamarind so it's still not connecting after confirming you were using the correct credentials?
[15:56] <RickyB98> (btw, since "someone" is an actual username here, better clarify it's not him who asked haha)
[15:57] <teward> davis: then it's likely dnsmasq.  Does `pidof dnsmasq` return anything on the command line?  Does `pidof named`?
[15:57] <tamarind> tatertots: yes
[15:57] <ducasse> RickyB98: set it up on your own server, transfer it across when he pays.
[15:57] <davis> pidof dnsmaasq is empty
[15:57] <rypervenche> RickyB98: If you are using a script or something, you could use something like shc to hide the script and give it an expiration date.
[15:58] <RickyB98> ducasse: i already have that set up, but my server isn't as powerful as his
[15:58] <RickyB98> rypervenche: is that an "apparent" hiding?
[15:58] <rypervenche> RickyB98: Or add a script that will delete everything the next day.
[15:58] <RickyB98> they can delete the script haha
[15:59] <rypervenche> RickyB98: Well, you could make it a binary so he can't see what it does, and then name it something. Or simply add it to the top of the normal running script.
[15:59] <davis> teward: ps auxw | grep dnsmasq shows that its running networkmanager
[15:59] <rypervenche> RickyB98: You could make it an at job and don't save your history. There are many ways.
[16:00] <tatertots> tamarind does it give any errors ? or does it just keep asking for the password over and over?
[16:00] <tamarind> tatertots: no errors, keeps asking for password
[16:01] <eelstrebor> i'm wondering if i can get some help with building & installing a kernel from source. it built and installed without errors but when i boot to the new kernel the links for vmlinuz and initrd.img points to the previous kernel instead of the new kernel. here is how i built & installed the new kernel: http://pastebin.com/BRsyzc6v
[16:04] <ducasse> eelstrebor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[16:04] <tatertots> tamarind 'grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog'
[16:05] <tatertots> pastbin it let's take a look
[16:11] <tatertots> tamarind you off to the races again?
[16:11] <tamarind> tatertots: huge data dump, scrolling to find relevancy..
[16:12] <tamarind> or shall i paste the entire
[16:12] <tatertots> how huge we talking....sounds like you're doing a lot of scrolling
[16:12] <bjrohan> Help. After my upgrade, when I start programs I get: Configuration file  not writable. Please contact your system administrator.
[16:13] <bjrohan> Thing is, I did the upgrade several days ago, and everything was working fine until about an hour ago
[16:16] <eelstrebor> why are there are all these different ways to build a kernel? and why are some people giving me grief over wanting to use the latest stable kernel from kernel.org?
[16:16] <rypervenche> eelstrebor: Because you're using Ubuntu, and it's a distro that's meant to be more stable. If you want to be using the lastest versions of software, then Ubuntu may not be the distro for you.
[16:18] <Powerless> Does anyone know how do i or print the number ofmy HP printer  printed pages
[16:18] <Powerless> ?
[16:18] <tatertots> eelstrebor: i would be curious if you're doing it out of necessity or are you just chasing something for the sake of chasing something
[16:18] <tatertots> Powerless are you using hplip?
[16:19] <Powerless> tatertots, yes
[16:19] <tatertots> is this a laser or inkjet Powerless?
[16:19] <Powerless> tatertots, laser
[16:20] <tatertots> if you print a printer info/config page it should give you page count of the drum/fuser ect of the laser printer
[16:20] <tatertots> this can usually be done using the buttons on the printer and from the printers menu
[16:21] <Powerless> tatertots, how do i print it? with windows there was buttom :P
[16:22] <tgm4883> Powerless: what printer?
[16:23] <Powerless> tgm4883, HP laserjet p1005
[16:26] <tgm4883> Powerless: yuck, you might be able to get there from the hplip application
[16:26] <Powerless> tgm4883, tried cups but failed :(
[16:26] <tgm4883> Powerless: not cups. the hplip application
[16:28] <tatertots> open the hplip app...you can manage your hp printer from there
[16:28] <Powerless> tatertots, trying to find it there
[16:30] <Powerless> cant find it anywhere
[16:32] <tgm4883> Powerless: "sudo apt install hplip-gui"
[16:33] <Powerless> tgm4883, i do have hplip, what i cant find is where to see the printed pages number
[16:33] <tgm4883> Powerless: can you print a testpage from there?
[16:34] <tgm4883> Powerless: try running "hp-testpage"
[16:34] <Powerless> test page prints stuff saying ubuntu..i would need the config page but theres nothing about it there
[16:35] <nico78> Hello all :) how to flush dns cache in 16.04 please ? i dont find it
[16:35] <tgm4883> Powerless: try 'hp-levels' and 'hp-info'
[16:35] <tgm4883> Powerless: FWIW, i'm just looking at possibilities here http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/tech_docs/man_pages/index.html
[16:36] <tgm4883> Powerless: 'hp-toolbox' might show it as well
[16:36] <nico78> should i use systemd ?
[16:37] <nico78> sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean doesn't exist anymore
[16:37] <Powerless> tgm4883, it opens the hplip..i will try again later..need to leave now..thanks for the help
[16:37] <Powerless> tatertots, thanks for the help man
[16:38] <nico78> and /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart too
[16:39] <genii> nico78: Instead of trying to manually run old sysvinit scripts directly, use instead: sudo service <servicename> start/stop/status/etcetera
[16:40] <nico78> genii: thxs but  service nscd restart doesnt exist anymore
[16:40] <tgm4883> nico78: dns-clean does
[16:40] <k1l_> since 15.04 its systemd and that uses systemctl instead of service
[16:40] <nico78> tgm4883: not in 16.04 !!
[16:41] <genii> nico78: Use sudo service --status-all to get a complete list of services
[16:41] <tgm4883> nico78: funny, it's here on mine
[16:41] <nico78> ??? actually i have a fresh install of Kubuntu 16.04
[16:42] <tgm4883> nico78: as previously mentioned, don't use /etc/init.d/ since that is the wrong location
[16:42] <tgm4883> k1l_: service still works
[16:43] <nico78> ok so : sudo service --status-all helped me a little, i fond resolvconf
[16:43] <nico78> but im not sure it clean the cache
[16:45] <nico78> maybe systemd-networkd-resolvconf-update
[16:45] <nico78> but this update the resolvers but dont flush the cache
[16:46] <duckx0r> I'm having a weird issue. When I reboot my computer it doesn't bring up the network until after a user has logged in, either to a DE or TTY. As soon as the user logs in, the box starts responding to pings. I have Kubuntu 14.04 LTS installed.
[16:46] <tgm4883> duckx0r: wifi or ethernet?
[16:47] <duckx0r> tgm4883, Ethernet
[16:47] <tgm4883> duckx0r: in network manager, is "allow all users to use this" selected/
[16:47] <dougquaid> What's a good way to check a USB hard drive to see if it's failing? Does smartmontools handle USB drives?
[16:48] <duckx0r> tgm4883, Let me check
[16:49] <duckx0r> tgm4883, It was unchecked. Let me test it now.
[16:49] <duckx0r> tgm4883, Yes. That was it. Thanks a lot.
[16:49] <tgm4883> yw
[16:51] <nico78> it seems dnsmasq is installed by default
[16:51] <nico78> but sudo service dnsmasq restart doest work
[16:52] <nico78> and systremd find nothing :-(
[16:53] <ash_workz> why would `ls -alh <dir>` report 3.6G but `cd <dir>; ls -alh | grep G` report `3.4G .` ?
[16:54] <ash_workz> maybe that's a question for ##bash ? I don't think so though
[16:55] <nico78> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/940  :-(
[16:56] <returnthis> how can I downgrade an entire dependency list of packages to what is in wily?
[16:56] <returnthis> specifically all packages related directly to xmonad
[16:56] <ash_workz> s/##/#/
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> !downgrade | returnthis
[16:57] <returnthis> ubottu: my system is broken right now,,, sooo
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> returnthis  what makes want to downgrade something, maybe there's another solutiin
[16:58] <k1l_> returnthis: what did you do before it broke?
[16:58] <returnthis> the *apparent* resolution of most apps is very very
[16:58] <returnthis> though xrandr is reporting correct resolution
[16:59] <returnthis> I closed my laptop lid, and when I opened it, there was a dialog box full of random text
[16:59] <returnthis> I closed it
[16:59] <returnthis> and now all my app look like they are being viewed through a magnifier
[16:59] <k1l_> returnthis: reboot the system
[16:59] <returnthis> already did
[16:59] <returnthis> tried older kernels
[16:59] <returnthis> it does not happen in default ubuntu wm
[17:00] <returnthis> so I suspect it is xmonad
[17:00] <k1l_> then rename the config for xmonad.
[17:00] <returnthis> I did
[17:00] <returnthis> same thing
[17:00] <returnthis> tried new vanilla user
[17:00] <returnthis> same thing
[17:01] <simone> hi bad mother fucker
[17:01] <shanti> What is the exact command I have to type when I register for a channel ?
[17:01] <shanti> "/nick Nick_name" doesn;t work
[17:01] <k1l_> shanti: ask in #freenode
[17:01] <OerHeks> shayou need to register with freenode, not per channel
[17:02] <shanti> Need to join ##linux
[17:02] <SchrodingersScat> !register | shanti
[17:04] <returnthis> so I did manage to downgrade xmonad, but the deps are another matter. The list is long and was wondering if there is a regex
[17:04] <returnthis> or if I am missing some other obvious debugging step
[17:04] <returnthis> cause losing half of my screen real estate is not fun
[17:07] <shanti> I cannot even talk on #freenode . Got banned on ##linux just now even without being able to talk . These freenode managers and admins are just ***holes.
[17:07] <ducasse> shanti: read the topic on #freenode
[17:07] <OerHeks> shanti, we don't really care.
[17:07] <tgm4883> OerHeks: that's not really helpful...
[17:16] <CacheMoney> so I know this probably isn't the right channel, but I'm trying to connect to an SFTP share on a remote server. I can connect with root using the root password no problem, but I get an error when I ever I try to connect from a different user
[17:17] <CacheMoney> just says "Could not connect to server"
[17:17] <tgm4883> CacheMoney: why do you think this is the wrong channel?
[17:31] <TurboKraken> !printer
[17:34] <Apachez> any of you who have experienced ubuntu 15.x or 16.04 where you have problems reading some dvd discs using external usb based dvd burner?
[17:34] <Apachez> however when I manually mount /dev/sr0 it works every time
[17:34] <Apachez> its like automount autodetects wrong filesystem or something
[17:38] <noobboyd> Hey guys any idea why I cant join #django channel? I'm using hexchat (ubuntu 16.04) and join channel doesn't seem to work
[17:38] <ducasse> noobboyd: maybe you need to register.
[17:39] <ducasse> !register | noobboyd
[17:39] <noobboyd> !register | noobboyd
[17:39] <gevs> hello people, anyone care to help me make my printer work ? :/
[17:40] <noobboyd> ok thanks guys I did register nick  but have not confirmed email yet...
[17:40] <gevs> installed a .deb from the manufacturer website, then added the printer (it got recognized by cups), select the downloaded/installed driver
[17:40] <gevs> but when i print the test page it doesnt actually print, the print job completes though :/
[17:42] <Bassem> i used those command      sudo apt-get remove unity-control-center     sudo apt-get install unity-control-center now i got alot of errors and can't start any application
[17:43] <GnomeKris> SO...I can't get my canon pixma mx350 to work wirelessly on my 14.04.
[17:45] <Bassem> i get this error when i try to start xchat http://paste.ubuntu.com/19096820/
[17:45] <k1l_> Bassem: "cat /var/log/apt/term.log | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here please
[17:45] <minimec> Bassem: Could you try to add another user as test account to verify that the problem is system wide and not only related to your current user?
[17:45] <Bassem> i also cant start any other application
[17:45] <dasabhi> hey guys if you have two vms on the same machine, how do you identify them when you want to ssh into one of them?
[17:46] <GnomeKris> It's just attached to the network through it's own wireless settings, not physically attached or shared from another pc. I have tried probably six different guides on how to get it to work, and nothing will even let me print a test page. I had it working a while back, printed one or two things, and it has since stopped working. The only thing I'm aware of that has happened is reboots on any of the devices on the network.
[17:46] <tgm4883> dasabhi: They should have different IP addresses
[17:46] <Bassem> k1l_: http://termbin.com/59nf
[17:46] <dasabhi> tgm4883: my main computer has a static ip, and i dont know why but because of this my two vms have the same IP as well
[17:47] <dasabhi> tgm4883: are you suggesting i change the ips?
[17:47] <minimec> Bassem: If unity works well with that new test user, I would consider a 'reset to defaults' of the unity desktopy for your current user account.
[17:47] <Bassem> minimec: how can i add new user
[17:47] <tgm4883> dasabhi: that sounds wonky. What type of VMs are these? What is your hypervisor?
[17:48] <k1l_> Bassem: "cat /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here please
[17:49] <k1l_> Bassem: i suspect it removed overlay-scrollbar-gtk2 package.
[17:49] <Bassem> k1l_: http://termbin.com/t5b5
[17:50] <k1l_> Bassem: the upgrade this morning didnt really work
[17:50] <minimec> Bassem: <ctrl><alt>F1 to get a console, then login with your normal account, then 'sudo adduser test' as example. Afterwards do 'sudo service lightdm restart && exit'. You should get the normal login screen and can login with the new user account.
[17:51] <Bassem> minimec: ok will try
[17:55] <networked> Hello. What is the correct way to get the kernel sources for kernel 4.4 on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? The only one listed in apt-get appears to be 3.13
[17:55] <noobboyd> Sweet I am all registered!! And was able to join #django. Thanks everyone! By the way when can we expect software center to be fixed in 16.04? I'm using gdebi which seems to work pretty well atm.
[17:56] <noobboyd> ubuntu software* not software center
[17:56] <ffee> Is it possible to make binary installer of a complete software in ubuntu out of deb pakages which can install program which includes all dependencies contained in the binary setup itself?
[17:57] <Bashing-om> networked: We have to question why you want the 4.4 kernel. ( that is HWE ) .
[17:58] <Bassem> minimec: same problem
[17:58] <ducasse> ffee: look into snap packages
[17:58] <Bassem> k1l_: System program problem detected
[17:58] <Bassem> k1l_: i get this notification when i login
[17:59] <networked> Bashing-om: Hm, I was under the impression it was an overall kernel update as well. I guess this is wrong?
[17:59] <k1l_> Bassem: again: what did you do to your system? the install/remove of unity-tweak-tool doesnt make that mess
[17:59] <Bassem> k1l_: thats all what i did nothing else
[17:59] <minimec> Bassem: Ok. Try to 'sudo apt-get purge unity-control-center' instead of 'remove'. That will also remove the system-wide configuration files.
[18:00] <k1l_> Bassem: first run this:http://askubuntu.com/a/227513/31260
[18:00] <Bassem> k1l_: my system settings were like this and i did that command and that what happen http://askubuntu.com/questions/453440/missing-system-settings-after-removing-some-packages
[18:01] <Bashing-om> networked: easily done .. but ..if there are no problems with the 3.13 series kernels. why change ?
[18:02] <ducasse> noobboyd: Whenever It's Ready™
[18:02] <Bashing-om> !hwe | networked
[18:03] <networked> Bashing-om: I am testing the kernel networking stack, and it is a pretty consistent area of improvement. So the more recent the kernel, the more representative the tests will be.
[18:04] <Bashing-om> networked: K, nothing works better than trying and see what results . see the bot's link for how to .
[18:04] <Bassem> k1l_: i'm doing it now
[18:05] <evil-troll> how do you prevent apt-get from fetching 64x64 icon HUGE files during `sudo apt-get update'?
[18:07] <OerHeks> troll, apt-get update does not fetch icons
[18:08] <Bassem> k1l_: its done but yet i can't start any application
[18:08] <evil-troll> OerHeks, oh really? you're wrong. in 16.04 it does. for some strange mystical reason.
[18:09] <k1l_> evil-troll: can you provide a log or proof?
[18:09] <tgm4883> evil-troll: can you give an example?
[18:10] <OerHeks> update fetches softwarelists, not packages, troll
[18:10] <tgm4883> lets all stay civil shall we
[18:11] <evil-troll> rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* #will work
[18:11] <evil-troll> tgm4883, you're right I'm sorry
[18:12] <Bassem> k1l_: any thing else to fix the issue?
[18:12]  * eelstrebor forgot to turn on logging - missed some replies
[18:12] <tgm4883> evil-troll: can you provide some sort of log or pastebin showing these 64x64 icon downloads during an apt-get update? What you just listed is package lists
[18:18] <Bassem_> this error i get first ting i log in unable to launch "gnome--session --session=ubuntu"  X session --- "gnome-session --session=ubuntu" not found;  falling back to defualt session
[18:20] <shanti> How to blacklist a user ?
[18:20] <vacho> can someone help me with installing ldap on my 16.04. I am used to running this command: sudo apt-get install php5-ldap but now since 16.04 ships with PHP 7, it no longer works.
[18:20] <ducasse> shanti: blacklist how?
[18:21] <OerHeks> vacho, try php7.0-ldap
[18:21] <vacho> OerHeks: great thanks. that worked I tried php7-ldap :) thanks!
[18:22] <OerHeks> have fun
[18:22] <minimec> Bassem_: what is the output of 'ls /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions' Looks that you have no ubuntu.session file anymore.
[18:24] <Bassem_> minimec: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19100061/
[18:25] <minimec> Bassem_: Hmm... 'cat /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session | pastebinit'
[18:26] <Bassem_> minimec: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19100226/
[18:27] <minimec> Bassem_: Well... That's strange. You have a ubuntu.session file and that file seems correct...
[18:29] <symptom> test
[18:29] <Bassem_> minimec: so?
[18:31] <minimec> Bassem_: Good question.... 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop' and maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-session'.
[18:31] <k1l_> Bassem_: did you set and build the locales?
[18:32] <k1l_> Bassem_: but is still wonder why they were deleted. so "nothing" is not what happened before
[18:32] <minimec> Bassem_: Do the flashback sessions work?
[18:36] <goddard> how can assign my ssh key to a username and host rather then just by host
[18:36] <goddard> ?
[18:37] <goddard> for example
[18:37] <goddard> Host google.com
[18:37] <goddard> IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[18:37] <goddard> Host goddard@google.com
[18:38] <goddard> IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa2
[18:38] <goddard> ?
[18:38] <goddard> is that possible?
[18:38] <nacc_> goddard: presumably, per `man ssh_config`, use a Match stanza
[18:39] <tgm4883> goddard: wouldn't you just 'ssh -i identity_file user@host'
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> goddard  is this what you mean ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/19101344/
[18:39] <crised> easy way to change pidgin background/
[18:39] <crised> or choose a different theme for pidgin_
[18:40] <crised> ubuntu 15.10
[18:43] <OerHeks> crised, install pidgin-themes or look @ http://www.pidginthemes.com/ with howto install in ~/.purple/themes
[18:44] <goddard> MonkeyDust: let me give it a shot
[18:45] <crised> OerHeks: installed, now what?
[18:45] <crised> OerHeks: back
[18:46] <OerHeks> crised, go into tools > preferences > themes and fiddle around?
[18:46] <crised> OerHeks: that menu just showed up
[18:47] <crised> OerHeks: Although I don't have themes to choose
[18:47] <OerHeks> you might need to restart pidgin after installing/copying themes
[18:47] <crised> OerHeks: will do it again 1 sec
[18:49] <Bassem> Im usuing my phone now i cant open ubuntu get low grafic error
[18:50] <crised> OerHeks: nope... seems like a nightmare trying to choose dark background for pidgin
[18:51] <vacho> I just installed apache and PHP on my server, when loading the URL, it shows me the PHP script (plain-text) instead of executing the php script.
[18:51] <crised> Which is a popular dark theme for ubuntu?
[18:52] <crised> is ambiance-dark-red, any good?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> crised  if you like it, then it's good
[18:52] <artux85> welcome
[18:52] <nacc_> vacho: what version of ubuntu?
[18:52] <vacho> 16.04
[18:52] <crised> MonkeyDust: which other option do I have?
[18:52] <artux85> hey
[18:52] <crised> MonkeyDust: Which is the most popular dark theme?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> !themes | crised
[18:52] <nacc_> vacho: by default, php is run though php-fpm in 16.04. You may need to install libapache2-mod-php
[18:53] <vacho> nacc_: says it's already installed..?
[18:53] <vacho> php -v
[18:53] <vacho> PHP 7.0.4-7ubuntu2.1 (cli) ( NTS )
[18:53] <vacho> libapache2-mod-php is already the newest version (1:7.0+35ubuntu6).
[18:53] <nacc_> vacho: `a2enmod php` ?
[18:53] <nacc_> vacho: might need to restart apache2 after that
[18:53] <vacho> ERROR: Module php does not exist!
[18:54] <nacc_> vacho: `a2enmod php7.0` ?
[18:54] <nacc_> vacho: sorry, typo'd
[18:54] <artux85> hey vacho
[18:55] <vacho> ok that worked..but when trying to restart apache, I get: Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[18:56] <nacc_> vacho: you should run those commands and examine the resulting logs
[18:56] <vacho> artux85: hey!
[18:56] <vacho> nacc_: I did
[18:56] <nacc_> vacho: feel free to pastebin the output, if you want help
[18:56] <vacho> http://pastie.org/10904341
[18:57] <goddard> MonkeyDust: that worked thanks
[18:57] <nacc_> vacho: right, the line got truncated, but it's the one about PHP (afaict)
[18:58] <vacho> it worked fine to restart just a min ago :p
[18:58] <vacho> nacc_: so what do I try next? I am new to this
[18:59] <nacc_> vacho: iirc, `a2dimod mpm_event`, `a2enmod mpm_prefork` (you might be able to just do the latter and it will aut-disable conflicts, I can't recall)
[18:59] <nacc_> err, *a2dismod, vacho
[19:00] <wdd> hi-- I have a box with 2 NICs serving some applications.  I need to set it up to direct traffic over one interface for a specific IP range and everything else goes to the other.  Where to start?
[19:00] <Bassem> k1l_: i get this error your screen graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly you will need to configure these yourself
[19:01] <crised> MonkeyDust: unity tweak tool, was my answer, documentation was extremely dated, nevertheless big thanks
[19:01] <codepython777> On ubuntu 14.04 - does /etc/bash.bashsrc not get executed? Where do i stick a export $var for all users?
[19:02] <thisguy123> Hey guys, I've got a storage/partitioning related question.
[19:02] <thisguy123> I have several disks ranging from 1TB-10TB in size that I'm trying to format and mount. I set the /dev/sdx device as an ext4 filesystem rather than partitioning. Is this a bad practice?
[19:07] <vacho> nacc_: Module mpm_prefork already disabled
[19:08] <vacho> Module mpm_event disabled.
[19:08] <Jack293> Hello!
[19:08] <evil-troll> thisguy123, I'm 83% sure you can't set the /dev/sda as an ext4 filesystem. I think that's odd. I'm 12% sure you have to partition something like /dev/sda1 as the whole drive. :/
[19:09] <vacho>  Apache is running a threaded MPM, but your PHP Module is not compiled to be threadsafe.  You need to recompile PHP.
[19:09] <vacho> what do I do :)
[19:10] <Jack293> vacho: Apache and Python: Yes or Not?
[19:10] <vacho> Jack293: I think python is used for some other scripts I have...but I am running PHP
[19:10] <vacho> Jack293: not sure if python is used or not for composer, NPM etc..
[19:11] <mtndew> anyone know anything about making deb packages to install on ubuntu systems, not with the intent to push them to official ubuntu mirrors but just bundling personal software into deb packages
[19:11] <Jack293> vacho: PHP old
[19:11] <Jack293> Python new!
[19:11] <vacho> Jack293: never had this issue on 14.04, trying to run this on ubuntu 16.04 and getting these errors.
[19:11] <Jack293> vacho: Python new!
[19:11] <Pici> Jack293: as much as I love python, its not really a solution to a problem someone is having trying to run php
[19:11] <vacho> Jack293: yes, but my app is built in PHP, I can't rewrite it to Python just because it's newer :)
[19:11] <Bassem> i tried sudo apt-get install gdm and it said unable to correct oroblems, you have held broken packages
[19:12] <Jack293> vacho: Python 3.5?
[19:12] <vacho> Jack293: what about Python 3.5?
[19:12] <Pici> 25
[19:12] <codepython777> On ubuntu 14.04 - does /etc/bash.bashsrc not get executed? Where do i stick a export $var for all users?
[19:12] <Jack293> Bassem: use apt, not apt-get (old)
[19:13] <Jack293> vacho: Python 5.3 very good
[19:13] <vacho> Jack293: ok, but how is that related to this?
[19:13] <evil-troll> Jack293, THANK YOU. using apt works for me. apt-get is too old.
[19:14] <Jack293> vacho: LAMP(ython)
[19:14] <vacho> Jack293: you are not making any sense
[19:14] <mtndew> this is why people don't take ubuntu seriously
[19:14] <Pici> Jack293: Please stop. Python has nothing to do with the problem that vacho is trying to solve.
[19:14] <Jack293> evil-troll: de nada :D
[19:15] <du_> my dconf-editor doesnt show my touchpad as a listed peripheral in org>gnome>settings-daemon>peripherals.  I'm guessing that's why my touchpad doesnt work.  i have a toshiba satellite e55 running on ubuntu 16. help?
[19:15] <vacho> Pici: is it this package that is interfering? libapache2-mod-php7.0
[19:15] <Pici> vacho: I haven't looked at your logs or your issue, sorry.
[19:15] <mtndew> I'm going to recommend against using mod-php at all costs
[19:15] <vacho> Pici: ok sorry
[19:15] <mtndew> unless you just have a thing against security
[19:16] <Pici> mtndew: You can use checkinstall to automatically build packages from makefiles into debs... but they aren't designed to be distributed.
[19:16] <Jack293> Good night for you!
[19:16] <vacho> installing web servers is stressful.. just trying to get PHP to run. but getting this: Apache is running a threaded MPM, but your PHP Module is not compiled to be threadsafe.  You need to recompile PHP.
[19:18] <ikonia> vacho: so you need to understand this better
[19:18] <pilne> sooo... when i setup my ubuntu box... i set aside a partition for winblows should i ever want/need it again...
[19:18] <ikonia> vacho: where did you get php
[19:18] <cwolford> anyone have experience installing a canon pixma mp series multifunction? i have the printer working over wifi, but the scanner portion isn't working. the closest i got to getting it to work was sane scanner seeing it on usb and launching but then disappearing until i turned off the scanner; once i did that, the sane scanner program came back on screen. but then, of course, i couldn't scan anything.
[19:18] <ikonia> pilne: it's called "windows"
[19:18] <pilne> and i might need it... can i just installl windows to that partition, and everthing will be ok again?
[19:18] <pilne> (yes i know... sorry for being childish about not liking it much)
[19:18] <vacho> ikonia: sudo apt-get install php libapache2-mod-php php-mcrypt php-mysql
[19:19] <ikonia> vacho: so you've installed mod-php, where/what repo did this come from
[19:19] <vacho> ikonia: I initiated an AMI on AWS, and then ran that command.
[19:20] <vacho> ikonia: Ubuntu 16.04 from AWS marketplace
[19:20] <ikonia> vacho: so whereever that came from (seems odd if thats ubuntu default - I don't think it is) you're running php in threaded mode, but the version/build of php you are using is not compiled for that
[19:21] <vacho> ikonia: hmm..ok..I don't mind rebuilding the server. Just need a solid guide on how to get LAMP running.
[19:21] <ikonia> pilne: are you sure you didnt install php-fpm ?
[19:21] <minimec> pilne: If you install windows after a linux distribution, windows will f**k up the grub installation on your master boot sector. You will have to reinstall grub afterwards.
[19:21] <ikonia> pilne: sorry - that wasn't for you
[19:21] <ikonia> vacho: are you sure you iddn't install php-fpm
[19:21] <vacho> ikonia: yes
[19:21] <Bassem> any way to fix my ubuntu
[19:22] <vacho> ikonia: hold on, let me show u my script.
[19:22] <codepython777> is /etc/profile run by bash before starting for any user?
[19:22] <ikonia> your script ?
[19:22] <cwolford> lol Bassem, what's wrong with it?
[19:22] <Bassem> cwolford: every thing
[19:22] <Bassem> cwolford: can't log in
[19:22] <vacho> ikonia: http://pastie.org/10904362
[19:23] <cwolford> Bassem do you get any error messages?
[19:23] <Bassem> cwolford: blank screen
[19:23] <Bassem> cwolford: your screen graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly you will need to configure these yourself
[19:23] <ikonia> vacho: so that seems fine, odd that it's trying to run in threaded mode
[19:24] <Bassem> cwolford: used those commands ~$ sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*  ~$ sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  ~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau  ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ~$ sudo reboot
[19:24] <cwolford> Bassem, did this happen after you did an update or a program install? or did this happen right after installation?
[19:24] <ikonia> ahhhhh
[19:24] <Bassem> cwolford: now blank screen can't see nothing
[19:24] <codepython777>  If I set a variable in /etc/profile  - does it drop down to my bash shell always?
[19:25] <vacho> ikonia: is it OK if I pm you?
[19:25] <ikonia> vacho: can you please show me "dpkg -l grep libapache2-mod" in a pastebin please
[19:25] <ikonia> vacho: just use the channel
[19:25] <vacho> ikonia: http://pastie.org/10904367
[19:25] <cwolford> Bassem, when you used apt-get purge nvidia-*, you basically wiped out your video drivers. i ALWAYS STRONGLY CAUTION using wildcards when deleting and/or installing anything.
[19:25] <ikonia> vacho: can you please show me "dpkg -l | grep libapache2-mod" in a pastebin please
[19:25] <ikonia> vacho: sorry - I missed the "|"
[19:25] <Bassem> cwolford: what can i do now
[19:26] <vacho> ikonia: http://pastie.org/10904368
[19:26] <cwolford> Bassem, have you tried booting to the command line?
[19:26] <ikonia> vacho: remove libapache2-mod-php
[19:26] <vacho> ok..
[19:26] <Bassem> cwolford: how
[19:27] <vacho> ikonia: I did
[19:27] <Bassem> cwolford: ok now im on grub
[19:27] <ikonia> vacho: restart apache, see if you get the same error
[19:27] <Bassem> cwolford: gnu grubb v 2.02
[19:27] <cwolford> try using sudo apt-get install nvidia-*
[19:27] <vacho> ikonia: same error
[19:28] <ikonia> vacho: interesting
[19:28] <cwolford> Bassem, if that doesn't reinstall your drivers, i'm not sure what to do next.
[19:28] <ikonia> vacho: and you restarted apache
[19:28] <vacho> ikonia: it's off at the moment
[19:29] <ikonia> vacho: how are you testing if apache is off ?
[19:29] <vacho>  sudo  service apache2 stop
[19:29] <vacho>  sudo  service apache2 start
[19:29] <ikonia> ahh, ok, so it is started then
[19:29] <vacho> I run stop, and then start again and I get that error
[19:30] <Bassem> cwolford: how can i get command line
[19:30] <ikonia> vacho: remove libapache2-mod-php7.0 and test again
[19:30] <vacho> why is it so hard to just install a basic lamp server in 16.04? never had issues in 14.04
[19:30] <ikonia> lets see which one it was
[19:30] <ikonia> vacho: it's not hard, something is wrong here
[19:30] <vacho> ikonia: it worked now!
[19:31] <cwolford> Bassem, don't you get a Grub Menu to choose whether or not to start Ubuntu, the command line, or something else when you start the machine?
[19:31] <Bassem> cwolford: yes
[19:31] <vacho> ikonia: apache is running, but when I load the file in my browser, it gives me the script in plain-text, e.g. it's not executing the script.
[19:31] <cwolford> Bassem, choose the command line option.
[19:31] <ikonia> vacho right, but you won't have mod_php loaded
[19:32] <ikonia> so why is your defualt php7 module not compatible with the default apache2
[19:32] <goddard> how can i use a program that creates a vpn, but still allow other progrms to NOT use the vpn?
[19:32] <vacho> ikonia: I have neither libapache2-mod-php or libapache2-mod-php7.0
[19:32] <ikonia> goddard: just routing
[19:32] <ikonia> vacho: right
[19:32] <Bassem> cwolford: i see ubuntu then advanced options for ubuntu then memory test then windows 7
[19:32] <cwolford> try advanced options
[19:33] <nicomachus> hi all. Trying to upgrade my 15.10 system to 16.04 before it goes EOL, but I'm not finding the new release. do I still have to use the -d flag for xenial?
[19:33] <minimec> Bassem: I don't know why you did, what you did, but... when you get that non working x11 state, again <ctrl><<alt>F1 to get a console, login, then 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade', maybe 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[19:33] <vacho> ikonia: any thoughts?
[19:33] <cwolford> minimec, i think he deleted his nvidia drivers.
[19:33] <tatertots> goddard you want to either use the local 'route' or the remote 'route'. you need to determine your default 'route' and use it
[19:34] <ikonia> vacho: what happens if you now install libapache2-mod-php and restart apache
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> nicomachus  -d means development, so no, you don't need it
[19:34] <Bassem> cwolford: ubuntu, with linux 3.19.0-64-generic then ubuntu, with linux 3.19.0-64-generic (recovery mode) and alot of options like that with different numbers
[19:34] <tatertots> in most cases you want to just use your local 'route' and use the vpn simply to have access to network resources on it and behind it
[19:34] <k1l_> nicomachus: where does your release prompt link to?
[19:34] <vacho> ikonia: that worked!!
[19:34] <minimec> cwolford: Yeah... but his initial problem was a gnome-session problem. No need to purge his (working!) X11 configuration.
[19:34] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust: I didn't think so, but when I run just 'do-release-upgrade' it says 'no new release foudn'
[19:34] <tatertots> either way you need to know which 'route' you want to use and simply use it
[19:34] <nicomachus> s/foudn/found/
[19:35] <Bassem> minimec: <ctrl><<alt>F1 dosnt work
[19:35] <ikonia> vacho: I don't know as I can't check at the moment, but I'd assume the other module is built threaded for fpm or something
[19:35] <nicomachus> https://paste.ubuntu.com/19106224/
[19:35] <k1l_> nicomachus: "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:36] <cwolford> minimec oh, i only knew about the blank screen, nvidia driver problem.
[19:36] <Bassem> cwolford: i choosed ubuntu, with linux 3.19.0-64-generic (recovery mode)
[19:36] <nicomachus> k1l_: http://termbin.com/o1qt
[19:36] <Bassem> cwolford: now blank screen again ctrl alt f1 do nothing
[19:36] <k1l_> nicomachus: is that a desktop?
[19:37] <vacho> ikonia: rewrites is not working now..lol..even after enabling a2nmod rewrite
[19:37] <nicomachus> k1l_: yes
[19:37] <k1l_> nicomachus: then go to the system settings, software and update. and set the upgrade to normal and not LTS only
[19:37] <cwolford> Bassem, this is beyond me. i'd follow minimec's directions.
[19:37] <nicomachus> is .1 not released yet?
[19:37] <k1l_> nicomachus: but before: what is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[19:37] <Bassem> minimec: can you help
[19:37] <minimec> Bassem: Ok. Hold <alt><SysRq> keys and type 'r'e'i's'u'b'. The computer should restart. After the bios boot screen hold the left 'shift' button to get the grub menu.
[19:37] <ikonia> vacho: check if the module is loaded, lookin the error log
[19:37] <choice> Hello! What is an easy way to record audio in Ubuntu?
[19:38] <nicomachus> k1l_: Description:	Ubuntu 15.10
[19:38] <k1l_> nicomachus: ok. then change the release prompt to normal
[19:38] <Bassem> minimec: nothing just the normal boot options
[19:39] <nicomachus> k1l_: ok, it's working it now
[19:39] <minimec> Bassem: Ok. you should have some 'recovery optione' in 'other boot optioins' or so.
[19:39] <Bassem> minimec: i see ubuntu then advanced options for ubuntu then memory test then windows 7
[19:39] <minimec> Bassem: >> advanced options.
[19:40] <Bassem> minimec: ubuntu, with linux 3.19.0-64-generic then ubuntu, with linux 3.19.0-64-generic (recovery mode) and alot of options like that with different numbers
[19:40] <minimec> Bassem: >> Recovery boot, >> drop to root shell
[19:40] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Do not think the -d option from 15.10 is needed ,... what is set ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[19:40] <Bassem> minimec: dont understand
[19:40] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: I've got it now.
[19:41] <Bassem> minimec: when i click advanced option i see ubuntu, with linux 3.19.0-64-generic then ubuntu, with linux 3.19.0-64-generic (recovery mode) and alot of options like that with different numbers
[19:41] <minimec> Bassem: Boot the kernel in (recovery mode). You will get a menu then... >> drop to root shell
[19:41] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Scroll back mode here .. now I play catch up .
[19:41] <Bassem> minimec: how
[19:42] <minimec> Bassem: With the keys of your keyboard?!? Choose linux...generic (recovery mode). With the arrow keys up/down
[19:43] <Bassem> minimec: blank screen again
[19:44] <aitzol> hi all
[19:45] <jhutchins> choice: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-linux-audio-software,2856-10.html
[19:45] <tatertots> hi aitzol
[19:45] <jhutchins> choice: Most audio editors like avidemux will also record.
[19:45] <minimec> Bassem: If you choose recovery mode, you get a 'recovery mene' where you can choose 'root' >> Drop to root shell prompt
[19:45] <cwolford> still looking for help with my canon pixma printer/scanner if anyone has a moment
[19:45] <choice> jhutchins: thanks. i installed audacity now. it took like a gazillion gigabytes, but it works :)
[19:46] <Bassem> minimec: i choose recovery mode and ther's alot of text on the screen then blank screen
[19:46] <jhutchins> cwolford: What help?
[19:47] <minimec> Bassem: Hmmm... That is bad. You should get something like this... http://i.stack.imgur.com/PjmRx.png
[19:48] <Bassem> minimec: just blank screen
[19:48] <tatertots> cwolford https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[19:49] <Bassem> minimec: im usind dvi cable could this be the reason?
[19:49] <Bassem> minimec: should i use analog cable?
[19:49] <jhutchins> Bassem: Do you get any display during boot?
[19:50] <Bassem> minimec: im using hdmi cable now
[19:50] <skinux> What happened to Apache2 Mod Rewrite package?
[19:50] <Bassem> jhutchins: yes some text then blank screen
[19:50] <Bassem> minimec: i'll try analg cable and see wait
[19:51] <jhutchins> The cool thing about text is that you can read what it says...
[19:51] <cwolford> tatertots, i've done all the basics, but the scanner refuses to work properly.
[19:51] <minimec> Bassem: Well.. The console should work anyways, but indeed you could plug to the internal GPU, bypassing the nvidia card or change the plug on the nvidia card.
[19:51] <cwolford> jhutchins i have the printer portion of my canon pixma mp560 working over wifi, but the scanner portion isn't working. the closest i got to getting it to work was sane scanner seeing it on usb and launching but then disappearing until i turned off the scanner; once i did that, the sane scanner program came back on screen. but then, of course, i couldn't scan anything.
[19:51] <jhutchins> cwolford: A printer is not a scanner.
[19:52] <cwolford> jhutchins it's a multifunction printer. the printer portion is working, but i can't get the scanner portion to work.
[19:52] <jhutchins> cwolford: You may be able to find some troubleshooting info through sane.
[19:52] <cwolford> jhutchins, i've tried that. i've been going in circles for the past two days.
[19:53] <jhutchins> cwolford: sane's pretty much the solution, figuring out tweaks to the sane config files is tough (but rewarding).
[19:53] <skinux> What is the name of the package for Apache2 Rewrite mod?
[19:53] <jq> skinux: Should be installed by default
[19:54] <nacc_> vacho: i asked you to *enable* prefork, fwiw
[19:54] <Jordan_U> cwolford: Can you scan while directly connected via USB?
[19:54] <jq> You just need to do sudo a2enmod rewrite
[19:54] <Bashing-om> Bassem: Remind me what release you have .. and maybe see what results when booting to a terminal drom the grub boot menu ??
[19:54] <Bassem> Bashing-om: 14.04 lts
[19:54] <nacc_> vacho: sorry, had stepped away
[19:55] <cwolford> Jordan_U nope. when i plug it in, the sane scanner app sees it and starts but then disappears. if i turn the scanner off, then the sane image app reappears like it is connected, but i can't do any scanning because the scanner is then off.
[19:55] <tatertots> he used the term or phrase 'scanner doesn't work properly'...makes me think it is actually functional but he doesn't like how the scan appears visually
[19:55] <cwolford> Jordan_U if i turn the scanner back on, the sane scanner app says it fails to connect because the scanner is busy.
[19:55] <tatertots> ok now we're getting some details out of him
[19:56] <Bassem> minimec: ok got the screen on analog cable
[19:56] <Jordan_U> cwolford: Are you using Simple Scan, Xsane, or some other scanning app?
[19:57] <Bassem> minimec: are you there
[19:57] <skinux> jq: Well, an OS software I downloaded says it's not enabled or not supported
[19:58] <skinux> Or..do I just need to enable it?
[19:58] <Bassem> minimec: i see now the recovery menu when i attach the analog cable
[19:58] <tatertots> yo cwolford https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[19:58] <skinux> Nah..trying to enable, I do see it's already installed and enabled.
[19:58] <jq> skinux: That's what I said, just open terminal and do "sudo a2enmod rewrite"
[19:58] <Bashing-om> Bassem: Try: boot to grub, 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen ; Line starting with linux containing " quiet splash "; replace these terms with 'text' - without the quotes .. key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 . Can you log in here ?// " < Bassem> minimec: ok got the screen on analog cable" . good deal .
[19:58] <minimec> Bassem: Cool. Well if we tried to get a graphical environment now? >> 'resume normal boot' maaybe the nouveau driver doesn't support 'hdmi'
[19:58] <skinux> Okay..so the thing I downloaded doesn't work right.
[19:59] <skinux> Thanks
[19:59] <tatertots> you might be pissing in the wind
[19:59] <cwolford> I tried simple scan, which always failed to connect. in installed sane, sane-utils, and xsane. i tried using the sane scanning app (xsane or not, i'm not sure off the top of my head), and i've tried gimp2.8--all with no luck.
[19:59] <cwolford> tatertots, been there, done that, didn't work.
[20:00] <minimec> Bassem: the 'recovery screen'? Drop to 'root' then or 'netroot' if you have taht.
[20:00] <Bassem> minimec: ok wait will try
[20:01] <Bassem> minimec: i resume now i got the error the system is running in low graphics mode
[20:02] <Bassem> minimec: i press ctrl alt f1
[20:02] <Bassem> minimec: now im on terminal
[20:02] <minimec> Bassem: exactly.
[20:02] <Bassem> minimec: now what to do
[20:02] <Bassem> should i log in as root
[20:03] <minimec> Bassem: Login and 'sudo apt-get update' and then ... upgrade. If it fails... 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[20:03] <minimec> Bassem: You don't have root. login as user.
[20:04] <Bassem> minimec: ther's too much lines
[20:05] <minimec> Bassem: Do you get error messages when you do 'sudo apt-get upgrade'?
[20:06] <Bassem> minimec: yes some thing like couldnt reach ubuntu extra link some thing like that
[20:06] <Bassem> minimec: it was at the end
[20:06] <Bassem> minimec: it start with W
[20:06] <ubuntu-mate> hi there, I have this situation. sda is my laptop computer HD, sdb is a flash drive I m booting and sdc is a portable HD. Id like to install ubuntu on sdc without interfering at all with sda normal functioning. Is the option Something else and then selecting sdc for bootloader installation a safe option?
[20:08] <swensson> Hey guys, I got a ubuntu running php/php7, apache2.. Im doing an simple upload script in .php but I get access denied, "failed to open stream: Permission denied" How do I solve this in a secure & safe way?...
[20:09] <nacc_> ubuntu-mate: does apache have access to write to the target directory?
[20:09] <minimec> Bassem: these errors come with 'apt-get update' right?
[20:09] <Bassem> minimec: yes now im on the upgrade
[20:09] <minimec> Bassem: Ok. Does it install something?
[20:10] <Bassem> minimec: yes it's installing alot
[20:10] <nacc_> ubuntu-mate: sorry! swensson: does apache have access to write to the target directory?
[20:10] <minimec> Bassem: That's good ;)
[20:10] <SCHAAP137> i have something hanging when doing a Shutdown directly from MATE... systemd stops at 'Stopping Raise Network Interfaces...' for some reason, it hangs there for 2 minutes and then times out, still shuts down
[20:10] <ubuntu-mate> no problems nacc_
[20:11] <SCHAAP137> but when i Log Off first, and do a Shutdown from lightdm-greeter, it works fine
[20:11] <swensson> Nacc_ No it does not... I is chown www-data /var/www/html/uploads a good way to aproach this?...
[20:11] <swensson> A secure way to aproach*
[20:11] <nacc_> swensson: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8103860/move-uploaded-file-gives-failed-to-open-stream-permission-denied-error-after may help give some ideas
[20:11] <swensson> nacc_ Thank you=)
[20:12] <nacc_> swensson: i think so, but i'm not an expert in the area :)
[20:14] <ubuntu-mate> just to summarize my last question. is there a safe way to boot to a second hard drive without interefering the first one?
[20:15] <ubuntu-mate> safe way to install a bootable second hard drive i meant.
[20:15] <Bassem> minimec: ok it done the upgrade now what to do
[20:16] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-mate: Is this a UEFI or BIOS based machine? Do you plan to boot the removable drive from other machines?
[20:16] <chrisss123456> anyone use avidemux on ubuntu 16.04?
[20:16] <minimec> Bassem: Hmm... Verify that 'ubuntu desktop' is installed. 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'.
[20:16] <k1l_> ubuntu-mate: the issue here is the user accidently doing stuff on the wrong hdd. but yes. you can do that
[20:16] <ubuntu-mate> Jordan_U, BIOS, and maybe yes.
[20:17] <minimec> Bassem: Also verify that you are using lightdm as login manager. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'
[20:18] <ubuntu-mate> but in the install screen I go to >something else...< and then select the sdc as boot loader target and select sdc partition, sda should remain intact by the installation process, right?
[20:18] <Bashing-om> ubuntu-mate: Somelike like my system : http://paste.ubuntu.com/19109974/; then yeah doable !
[20:19] <jhutchins> chrisss123456: What's your actual question?
[20:19] <ubuntu-mate> I read that an option was to remove or disable the ``local`` HD and then try to install from a flash disk
[20:19] <chrisss123456> jhutchins: it's actually pretty much it. i used to have it in 15.10 but now it doesnt work, and is gone.
[20:20] <jhutchins> chrisss123456: "doesn't work" and "gone" seem mutually exclusive.
[20:20] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-mate: If you're sure that it's BIOS based, then yes all that you need to do is ensure that grub's boot sector is installed to the removable drive's MBR (and of course don't tell the Ubuntu installer to create or modify partitions on other drives).
[20:20] <nacc_> chrisss123456: http://askubuntu.com/questions/763846/why-has-avidemux-been-removed-from-ubuntu-16-04s-repository ?
[20:21] <chrisss123456> jhutchins: fair enough, sorry. i mean i can't install it via sudo apt-get  (there's no package). i think nacc_ has replied with a potential solution. thanks! :)
[20:21] <jhutchins> chrisss123456: Check backports.  It apparently had some problems building with the new release.
[20:21] <jhutchins> nacc_: Heh.
[20:21] <nacc_> chrisss123456: still doesn't build, afaict
[20:21] <nacc_> jhutchins: ^5
[20:21] <jhutchins> nacc_: I was reading that.
[20:22] <chrisss123456> nacc_:  oh? is that including from getdeb?
[20:22] <jhutchins> Looks like there might be a ppa for it.
[20:22] <nacc_> chrisss123456: not sure; i'm just looking at the current status (it's only in yakkety-proposed because it's not building there, afaict). As jhutchins mentioned, i think PPAs are your only option right now
[20:23] <jhutchins> Yeah, I'm definitely behind the curvbe here, just ignore me.
[20:23] <chrisss123456> nacc_: jhutchins. i'll try the getdeb route and report what i find
[20:23] <Bassem> minimec: it still flashing at installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/bluetooth..
[20:24] <ubuntu-mate> Jordan_U, should I mark sdc1 as ``/`` to indicate that will be the install location?
[20:24] <minimec> Bassem: After what command?
[20:24] <chrisss123456> nacc_: mmh do you know of anyone using getdeb? trying to install the package manager called getdeb (as the instructions on the website) and the ubuntu softwrae centre says it's broken
[20:24] <nacc_> chrisss123456: no idea, sorry; i would probably just try the PPA (I think there's one mentioned in that link and there's at least one other i found in askubuntu reponses)
[20:25] <nacc_> chrisss123456: presuming you're willing to trust the PPA owners
[20:25] <Bassem> minimec: ubuntu-desktop
[20:25] <jhutchins> chrisss123456: No knowledge of the trustworthiness of this PPA: http://linuxg.net/install-avidemux-on-ubuntu/
[20:25] <chrisss123456> nacc_: jhutchins: alright well i'm not sure if it's a good idea to trust them or not... a bit of a noob
[20:25] <minimec> Bassem: Don't know why it takes so long but let it finish...
[20:26] <Bassem> minimec: ok
[20:26] <jhutchins> chrisss123456: You might also look at audacity.
[20:27] <chrisss123456> jhutchins: audacity is basically what i'm looking for, but for video files... avidemux was the best i found :/
[20:28] <jhutchins> chrisss123456: Ah, that's right.
[20:28] <jhutchins> chrisss123456: I was just thinking of it for audio earlier.
[20:28] <Bassem> minimec: the dash is flashing at the start of the line
[20:28] <Bassem> minimec: i can type but it dos not do any thing
[20:29] <chrisss123456> jhutchins: it's a shame. avidemux was lightweight and simple, and allowed for basic manipulations like frame by frame viewing, and external plugins.
[20:30] <Jack293> Who developer C?
[20:30] <nacc_> Jack293: not really ontopic, but many people develop in C.
[20:31] <kwoot> Anybody awake for some br0 troubles?
[20:31] <Jack293> nacc_: thanks
[20:31] <Bassem> minimec: now what to do
[20:31] <ubuntu-mate> will these installation configurations wont affect sda? http://imgur.com/QZiV4PA
[20:31] <minimec> Bassem: hmmm... '<ctrl>c', then 'sudo apt-get clean' (we clean the package copies in /var/cache/apt/archives), then 'sudo apt-get autoremove' (we remove obsolete installed packages)
[20:31] <nacc_> kwoot: i would just ask, alhtough bridging may get a faster/better response in #ubuntu-server
[20:32] <Bassem> minimec: ctrl c do nothing
[20:32] <Jack293> minimec: use apt
[20:32] <minimec> Bassem: Try again...
[20:32] <kwoot> nacc_: will try that channel then. Thanks!
[20:32] <Bassem> minimec: nothing
[20:32] <minimec> Jack293: He's still on 14.04. apt-get should do, I guess.
[20:33] <Jack293> minimec: ok
[20:33] <minimec> Bassem: <ctrl><alt>F2 login, do you get a prompt?
[20:33] <Jack293> minimec: apt --> very good
[20:34] <Bassem> minimec: ok now i login again
[20:34] <minimec> Jack293: I should probably start to use it too... I agree.
[20:34] <Jack293> minimec: ok
[20:35] <Bassem> minimec: i get error for clean command
[20:36] <anabain> In order to solve some video card issues on 16.04, I've been told to remove xserver-xorg-video-radeon and use xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu instead. dpkg -r xserver-xorg-video-radeon does not work because xserver-xorg-video-ati depends on it, and I've also been told not to remove the ati package. What can I do, then?
[20:36] <minimec> Bassem: hmmm... I don't know whether we should interrupt apt-get right now, but it seems stucked somehow. what does the 'top' command give you?
[20:36] <Bassem> minimec: e: could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[20:36] <cecja> anabain: what were your initial troubles?
[20:36] <minimec> Bassem: apt-get is using it at the moment...
[20:37] <Jordan_U> anabain: Who told you to do this? I would expect that it would be easier to specify the driver via /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and I would also expect for amdgpu to be used preferentially where it supports your graphics hardware).
[20:37] <Bassem> minimec: e: could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: resource temporary unavilable)
[20:37] <rhagu> Hi I created a bash script: http://pastebin.com/hDvHkwbG  to check all video files in a folder for errors. I would like to alter it and move all files I do net get an stderr or stdout from to a new folder, how can I do that?
[20:38] <minimec> Bassem: Do you have enough space on that partition? I see no reason, why 'apt-get' might hang during installation of a bluetooth config file.
[20:38] <minimec> Bassem: type 'free'
[20:38] <Bassem> minimec: plenty of space 100 GB
[20:38] <minimec> Bassem: Ok.
[20:38] <anabain> refreshing issues, cecja, on kubuntu vsync compositor. Jordan_U, I also thought that, it seems strange that upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04 did not get the best suitable driver...
[20:39] <Bassem> what space do you want
[20:39] <minimec> Bassem: So if you switch back to console F1, apt-get is still hanging?
[20:39] <cecja> anabain: well with amd nothing really is expected.
[20:39] <Bassem> minimec: how to switch
[20:40] <minimec> Bassem: ctrl+alt+f1 ;)
[20:40] <anabain> cecja, a workaround is to change rendering engine, anything other than openGL 2.0 works well, at least for non-3d stuff (which I won't be using, btw)
[20:40] <Bassem> minimec: same flashing dash
[20:41] <Jordan_U> anabain: Please pasetebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you have one, which you probably don't).
[20:41] <cecja> anabain: the problem is Xorg 1.18 is not compatible with the binary blob from amd... and the opensource driver is a bit buggy to say the least
[20:42] <minimec> Bassem: Ok. switch back to F2 and do 'pidof apt-get'. Do you get a process number? Then do 'top | grep apt-get'. Does it do something?
[20:43] <Bassem> minimec: 10702
[20:43] <cecja> anabain:  I had some success on my server by using http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Beta-Driver-for-Vulkan-Release-Notes.aspx the vulkan beta blob ... it worked with my non pro 260
[20:44] <Bassem> minimec: keep typeing same line
[20:45] <anabain> Jordan_U, cecja: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19112313/
[20:45] <Bassem> 10702 root 20 0 232684 82344 68484 s 2.3 0.7 0:34.30
[20:46] <minimec> Bassem: So the process is there and it is 'active'. We can interrupt it, but we will have to recover the installation process with 'sudo apt-get -f install' afterwards. As you have no change on console F1, I consider doing that.
[20:47] <Bassem> minimec: then
[20:48] <Bassem> minimec: how to do that
[20:48] <taora> hello everyone, my wifi connection symbol is gone, instead ethernet symbol is shown on the system tray, while I am connected to wifi network.
[20:48] <minimec> Bassem: Welll first we kill the process. 'sudo pkill -9 apt-get'.
[20:49] <Jordan_U> anabain: I assume that means that you don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Please pastebin the output of "lspci".
[20:49] <ubuntu-mate> what do you think, these install options will leave sda and its boot options intact? http://imgur.com/NldzADK
[20:49] <taora> and list of available networks are not shown. the connected network name and the word 'connected' is not there.
[20:49] <minimec> Bassem: You should have a normal console prompt on F1 again...
[20:49] <anabain> Jordan_U, I already included that info in the paste, :) just at the beginning
[20:50] <Bassem> minimec: where to type the command
[20:50] <minimec> Bassem: On console F2
[20:50] <anabain> Jordan_U, lines 1-3
[20:50] <Bassem> minimec: can't it keep typeing the same line
[20:50] <minimec> Bassem: <ctrl>c to interrupt the top cpmmand we did before.
[20:51] <anabain> Jordan_U, the whole lspci output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19112831/
[20:52] <tortib> I installed wine-devel pkg from the winehq ppa but it didn't actually install a wine binary
[20:52] <Bassem> minimec: the screen dos not type on f1
[20:54] <minimec> Bassem: you can also open a third console with ctrl+alt+f3... or interrupt the running 'top' process with ctrl+c on F2 and then 'pkill' ...
[20:54] <Jordan_U> anabain: Now that I think of it, the amdgpu driver does kms and so would in fact need to be selected before X has started (thus Xorg.conf change would not be sufficient).
[20:55] <Bassem> minimec: done then what to do
[20:55] <anabain> Jordan_U, then what's the next step, if any?
[20:56] <Venker> hi people
[20:56] <minimec> Bassem: We still don't know why apt-get hanged..., but try to 'sudo apt-get autoremove' once. You might get an error, because we interrupted the previous installation process.
[20:56] <Bassem> minimec: done the pkill but get the same error for -f install
[20:56] <tatertots> hi venker
[20:56] <tortib> I installed wine-devel pkg from the winehq ppa but it didn't actually install a wine binary
[20:56] <ubuntu-mate> i have another problem. when I try to install to a device *sdb, it says it wants to use the other device swap partition!
[20:57] <Bassem> minimec: same error for autoremove
[20:57] <Bassem> minimec: e: could not get lock
[20:57] <minimec> Bassem:  ok... we reboot once... 'sudo reboot'
[20:58] <Bassem> minimec: and boot normal?
[20:58] <anabain> Jordan_U, another thing: is there any lightweight alternative to dolphin that I can use without having to install too much gnome stuff (I'm also having freezing issues with dolphin)?
[20:58] <Jordan_U> anabain: I'm having trouble figuring out how to match lspci output to support or lack therof from amdput, and I need to leave. Hopefully someone can help with that and if your card is supported by amdgpu then you *might* want to try blacklisting the radeon kernel module so that it doesn't load at boot, but that could also lead to a failure to load X or possibly lead to a failure to boot entirely...
[20:58] <minimec> Bassem: Yes. You will get that low graphics mode again....
[20:59] <Jordan_U> anabain: The ideal resolution would be for someone from #radeon to give you instructions, so I would try asking there.
[20:59] <anabain> Jordan_U, ok, thanks
[20:59] <Jordan_U> anabain: You're welcome.
[21:00] <anabain> Jordan_U, do you have any suggestion for an alternative to dolphin. Right now I'm unable to browse my system
[21:03] <Bassem> minimec: ok
[21:03] <Bassem> minimec: now what to do
[21:03] <Jordan_U> anabain: pcmanfm or pcmanfm-qt might be worth trying.
[21:03] <anabain> ok, thanks
[21:04] <minimec> Bassem: Well we have to check, whether the package system is ok. Switch to F1 and Sudo apt-get update/upgrade
[21:04] <Bassem> minimec: i tried autoremove i get error dpgk was interrupted you must manually run sudo dpkg --configure
[21:05] <minimec> Bassem: update/upgrade... In case we do 'sudo apt-get -f install'. That will trigger 'dpkg'
[21:06] <Bassem> minimec: w:failed to fetch jttp://extras.ubuntu
[21:06] <Bassem> minimec: e:some index files faild to download, they have been ignored or old ones used insted
[21:07] <ark-knight> does anyone know where I can download an automated install of ubuntu?
[21:07] <Bassem> minimec: same error for upgrade command must manually run sudo dpgk --config
[21:07] <minimec> Bassem: Yeah. You have repositories that are not 'reachable'. We look at that later. It might also be temporally.
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> !automate | ark-knight
[21:08] <superman_> Hello Friends - I am a newbie Pi user, purchased my Pi 3 device a few days ago. I have been having difficulty setting up the wifi. When I enter my wep password into the field. Nothing happens. Also Please note, when I hover the mouse over the wifi icon - it says "wlan0: not associated". Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[21:08] <Bassem> minimec: now what to do
[21:08] <minimec> Bassem: So run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> superman_  Pi has its own channels, try #ubuntu-arm or #raspberrypi
[21:09] <superman_> Thanks MonkeyDust
[21:12] <Dat> is there away to convert mkv files into avi's?
[21:12] <Bassem> minimec: it stoped at setting up bluez 5.23-2+b1
[21:12] <Dat> ffmpeg doesn't seem to be avail in 14.04
[21:12] <Bassem> minimec: flashing dash at that line again
[21:15] <rypervenche> Dat: You can use libav to do the same thing.
[21:16] <Bassem> minimec: what to do
[21:17] <minimec> Bassem: Oh boy. We are in a 'running circle'. I have no clue, why that bluez package doesn't install. We will have to 'pkill -9 -f apt-get' again... Open a console ctrl+alt+f2 and kill the process.
[21:18] <minimec> Bassem: Gimme me a cigarette pause of 5 minutes... I will be back.
[21:21] <TheNH813> So, what command do I use to update alternatives to set a version of Java I put in /usr/local/oracle-java-8u91
[21:22] <TheNH813> As the default version of Java
[21:22] <TheNH813> Or should I just delete all the java things in /usr/bina nd manually simlink it
[21:22] <TheNH813> Because I have no idea how to use the update-alternatives thing
[21:23] <TheNH813> And no manual makes ANY sense
[21:23] <sponix> TheNH813: There is an easy way to do it.. Give me one second to pull the Link....
[21:23] <TheNH813> Thanks. I'l wait
[21:24] <sponix> TheNH813: --> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
[21:25] <TheNH813> Will read that
[21:25] <minimec> Bassem: ok. I am back.
[21:25] <Bassem> minimec: wb
[21:25] <minimec> Bassem: You will have to 'pkill -9 -f dpkg' as we have no apt-get process running....
[21:26] <Bassem> minimec: ok
[21:26] <Bassem> minimec: how can i show you what i get on my screen
[21:26] <Bassem> minimec: its too much to type
[21:27] <TheNH813> sponix: Thanks for that article. It's installing and should work perfectly. PPAs are so nice to have. :D
[21:27] <sponix> TheNH813: Yeah.. I use that PPA for Java8 to support "Minecraft" for my Kids :P
[21:28] <minimec> Bassem: Try with "| pastebinit" after the command. I se no other solution
[21:28] <TheNH813> Same purpose. XD
[21:28] <TheNH813> And a few web applications
[21:28] <TheNH813> And Runescape. Otherwise, I have no use for Java. XDDD
[21:28] <Bassem> minimec: can't use it with the upgrade command...i get some error when i use it
[21:29] <Guest82659> My desktop: http://i.imgur.com/0YbKslB.png whats your opinion?
[21:29] <TheNH813> Pretty nice wallpaper.
[21:29] <minimec> Bassem: Did you kill the dpkg process?
[21:29] <Bassem> minimec: yes
[21:30] <minimec> Bassem: Ok. I would remove that 'bluez' package now. 'sudo dpkg -r bluez', hoping that we can get a clean package status.
[21:31] <sponix> Guest82659: What Flavor of Linux is that ?
[21:31] <Guest82659> TheNH813 http://pexels.com Wallpapers/images for commercial use.
[21:32] <tisha> need facebook messenger for ubuntu 16.04
[21:32] <prod_> TheNH813: it will be something like this
[21:32] <prod_> I installed Java under /usr/java/jre1.7.0_51/
[21:32] <prod_> # JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/jre1.7.0_51/
[21:32] <prod_> # PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:$JAVA_HOME/bin
[21:32] <prod_> # export JAVA_HOME
[21:32] <prod_> # export PATH
[21:32] <TheNH813> Guest82659: I'l check that out. Always on the lookout for nice backgrounds. :D
[21:32] <Guest82659> :D
[21:32] <Bassem> minimec: dependency problem preven removal of bluez
[21:33] <minimec> Bassem: 'sudo apt-get remove bluez'?
[21:33] <Guest82659> sponix my english is very bad .. :( Can you explain your question?
[21:33] <TheNH813> prod_: Yeah I just went nad used a script from the Webupd8 PPA. It automatically installs java. I decided to just remove the folder I put in /usr/local and just let the script put it where it wants to. Thanks for that anyway, I will remember that if for soem reason this method fails.
[21:34] <sponix> Guest82659: Are you using Ubuntu Linux ?
[21:34] <Guest82659> Yes, i use (X)ubuntu 16.4
[21:35] <TheNH813> Xubuntu looks quite simple and clean..
[21:35] <TheNH813> I definitely prefer it to Unity, but that search feature and binding the Windows key to the menu is just too usefull.
[21:35] <Guest82659> And its very fast. :)
[21:35] <TheNH813> Yup
[21:36] <Bassem> minimec: same thing at removing bluez 5.23-2+b1
[21:36] <Guest82659> I hate unity.
[21:37] <TheNH813> Yeah, Unity sucks memory like no tomorrow and it does make things lag a bit. There's a few reasons I like it, but I might install another enviroment and set it as default
[21:37] <minimec> Bassem: Boy... We try with force... 'sudo dpkg -rf bluez'
[21:37] <TheNH813> Guest82659: The memory is no problem for me but Compiz does crash on occasion. May just switch to XFCE. It's a single command to apt-get away.
[21:37] <TheNH813> :o
[21:38] <sponix> TheNH813: I'm glad Ubuntu went with Unity be default.. If they didn't Linux Mint wouldn't be so popular  :)
[21:39] <Bassem> minimec: dpkg error conflictingn actions -f --field and -r remove
[21:39] <prod_> TheNH813: if your system has multiple versions of java installed then you can force the system to choose the version of java you want.
[21:39] <prod_> update-alternatives --config java
[21:39] <TheNH813> Yeah, what I was wondering before was how to register a custom java version with update-alternatives
[21:39] <TheNH813> That I just extracted from a .tar.gz
[21:39] <sponix> prod_: The article I posted already covers that.. Think I put out the link while you were busy getting kicked :)
[21:40] <TheNH813> But that's long over as I used a PPA
[21:40] <Guest82659> Oh, and the icons from my desktop: http://numixproject.org
[21:40] <TheNH813> Will keep it in mind if I need multiple versions
[21:40] <TheNH813> Guest82659: Now that's interesting
[21:41] <prod_> sponix: thanks for the info
[21:41] <sponix> prod_:  --> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
[21:41] <Guest82659> Its the "Numix Circle" Pack.
[21:41] <sponix> PPA saves the Day
[21:42] <minimec> Bassem: Oh boy... 'sudo dpkg --purge --force-all bluez'
[21:42] <Guest82659> is it a good idea to lern python?
[21:42] <TheNH813> Yes
[21:42] <TheNH813> Python is quite usefull
[21:43] <Guest82659> for application development?
[21:43] <TheNH813> Well, Blender uses a lot of Python for background stuff.
[21:43] <Bassem> minimec: dpkf database is locked by another processor
[21:43] <Guest82659> Oh nice.
[21:43] <TheNH813> Guest82659: I'm taking a liking to the Numix Shine icons. Might just have to give those a try.
[21:44] <TurboKraken> How would you mount a .img?
[21:44] <TheNH813> What format? Floppy or CD/DVD?
[21:44] <TheNH813> (There's a big differernce)
[21:44] <nomic> is there no ubuntu 16.04 "alternative2
[21:45] <nomic> = headless
[21:45] <nomic> command line
[21:45] <TurboKraken> Its an SDcard.img for android studio.
[21:45] <woot-0854> Bassem: dpkg?
[21:45] <TheNH813> TurboKraken, then it's a complete filesystem in a image
[21:45] <TheNH813> What filesystem does Android use?
[21:45] <TheNH813> EXT4?
[21:45] <TheNH813> F2FS?
[21:46] <TheNH813> Mount the file like you would a HDD.
[21:46] <sponix> nomic: the Ubuntu 16.04 Server Edition Works
[21:46] <nomic> there used to be command line
[21:46] <Bassem> woot-0854: dpkg? unknown command
[21:46] <nomic> alternative install
[21:46] <minimec> Bassem: Ok. That's a hard one, but we don't give up. We reboot and try to purge that 'bluez' package with 'sudo dpkg --purge --force-all bluez'. So first 'sudo reboot', the go to console F1 and try to remove the package with '--force-all'
[21:46] <nomic> is it gone
[21:46] <TurboKraken> TheNH813: It doesn't disclose what format or let me change the format.
[21:47] <TheNH813> Likely EXT4 then. It's similar to a virtual machine hdd. There's a filesystem inside the file that gets flashed to the device
[21:47] <woot-0854> Bassem: which Distribution comes without dpkg?
[21:47] <TheNH813> Turbokraken: You'd mount it like "mount /path/to/file.img -t ext4 /path/to/mount"
[21:47] <minimec> Bassem: You that I think I started to use ubuntu using the first ever release. Before (and still) I use(d) Debian. And yet... what we senow never happened to me...
[21:48] <TheNH813> Turbokraken: But it may need additional options if there's data before the partition.
[21:48] <Bassem> minimec: :) im a lucky guy i guess
[21:49] <TheNH813> Turbokraken: Or they could be YAFFS images, which is simialr to squashfs.
[21:49] <TheNH813> http://askubuntu.com/questions/234258/how-to-mount-a-yaffs2-filesystem
[21:49] <Guest82659> What do you think of my website (design, ...) https://96abilak.de/en
[21:49] <minimec> Bassem: You see.. Even my posts are getting 'cryptic'....
[21:50] <HappySomethingSo> hi I can't seed with transmission
[21:50] <TheNH813> Guest82659: Pretty clean and simple looking. Seems to be good for what it is (listing contact info, etc)
[21:51] <TheNH813> (PS: Just a sidenote, don't mention too much stuff like that here, it could be considered "off topic"
[21:51] <HappySomethingSo> does anyone know why this could be? transmission says the port is open
[21:51] <TheNH813> Check your firewall
[21:51] <TheNH813> On the router
[21:51] <TheNH813> To make sure it isn't blocking p2p
[21:52] <HappySomethingSo> TheNH813: ok I'll try that
[21:52] <TheNH813> Some ISPs also throttle or block p2p traffic, but that's not too likely the case.
[21:53] <TheNH813> I'd say it's a firewall problem. Could possibly be a firewall problem on your PC also, but you said the port was opened.
[21:53] <John> hello
[21:53] <TheNH813> Hello. :D
[21:53] <Guest82659> Hi :D
[21:53] <Moneysac> hello
[21:53] <woot-0854> hi
[21:53] <John> what is this chat for?
[21:53] <HappySomethingSo> TheNH813: so it should be security: IP filtering: Incoming, right?
[21:53] <TheNH813> Yes
[21:54] <TheNH813> John: Ubuntu help, support, etc.
[21:54] <Guest82659> Its for talking about unicorns and more stuff like that.
[21:54] <TheNH813> LOL
[21:54] <Guest96693> k
[21:54] <Guest96693> so anyone play minecraft?
[21:55] <TheNH813> Well, I do. Sometimes java is a pain to get running on Linux though.
[21:55] <Guest82659> Yes, I do. Sometimes.
[21:55] <Guest82659> wtf :D
[21:55] <rypervenche> Guest96693: You might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:55] <HappySomethingSo> TheNH813: Everything is allowed
[21:55] <Guest96693> well
[21:56] <Guest96693> i got a problem with my desktop
[21:56] <TheNH813> HappySomethingSo: Well, then I'd check your PC.
[21:56] <Guest82659> TheNH813 how old are you?
[21:56] <TheNH813> 19
[21:56] <Guest96693> i got a problem with my desktop
[21:56] <TheNH813> What?
[21:56] <HappySomethingSo> TheNH813: what should I check?
[21:56] <minimec> TheNH813: Well... What you want to say is... "Java is a pain..." *rofl*
[21:56] <Guest82659> what kind of problem?
[21:56] <Guest96693> well its grey
[21:56] <TheNH813> minimec: True
[21:56] <Guest96693> and no icons
[21:56] <TheNH813> Graphics problem?
[21:56] <Guest96693> i looked through the setting
[21:57] <Guest96693> no it happened when i took my pv in and out of vga
[21:57] <Guest96693> pc sorry
[21:57] <TheNH813> So, you unplugged and replugged a cable?
[21:57] <Bassem> minimec: is it normal to take that long to remove it?
[21:57] <Guest82659> Settings>Appearance>*Choose a Theme*
[21:57] <Guest96693> idk what happened
[21:57] <Guest96693> no i mean its GONE
[21:58] <Guest82659> can you make a screenshot?
[21:58] <Guest96693> k
[21:58] <TheNH813> BRB a few minutes gotta do something.
[21:59] <Guest96693> i took a screenshot
[21:59] <minimec> Bassem: Normally no, because it is just a rather small package. Although I don't know if it removes some dependencies...
[21:59] <Guest96693> i need help
[21:59] <Bassem> minimec: it's flashing dash since then
[21:59] <Guest96693> PLEASE
[22:00] <minimec> Bassem: I don't know what you did to your system, but it seems to behave rather strange.
[22:00] <sponix> Guest96693: What exactly do you need help with ?
[22:00] <gnudoge> hehehehe tell us the things!
[22:00] <Guest96693> my desktop is grey
[22:00] <Guest96693> no icons
[22:00] <Guest96693> no nothing
[22:00] <Guest96693> just grey
[22:01] <gnudoge> I have that too.  Mine is caled fluxbox
[22:01] <Guest96693> with the panels up top and down bottom
[22:01] <gnudoge> can you right click on the desktop?
[22:01] <Guest96693> no
[22:01] <gnudoge> oh.  sounds broke..  Where screenshot?
[22:01] <Guest96693> i need my desktop to get to some important files quickly
[22:01] <Guest82659>  what desktop are you using and witch Linux distro
[22:02] <Guest96693> idk just what it came with
[22:02] <Guest96693> i know it works
[22:02] <gnudoge> Will alt+f2 brings up a command prompt?
[22:02] <Guest96693> all i know is it is ubuntu 14.04
[22:03] <Guest96693> application finder
[22:03] <Bassem> minimec: what to do now
[22:03] <gnudoge> yep try the browser name
[22:03] <Guest96693> i need my desktop to get important files up quickly
[22:03] <gnudoge> firefox perhaps.. then go to url  file:///
[22:03] <Guest96693> its a pain going through all the folders
[22:03] <vacho> can someone point me to a website where I can setup proper permissions for my web app? it's a LAMP app on 16.04 and I have placed the source code in /var/www/html/public ... not sure how to go about the file permissions
[22:04] <Guest96693> i just want my desktop back :(
[22:04] <gnudoge> filez!
[22:04] <Bassem> minimec: should i use ctrl c
[22:04] <Guest96693> copy?
[22:04] <gnudoge> I thought you wanted files?
[22:04] <Guest96693> yes
[22:04] <Guest96693> i do
[22:04] <gnudoge> did you open firefox?
[22:05] <Guest96693> on my non-existant desktop
[22:05] <gnudoge> with alt+f2
[22:05] <Guest96693> me?
[22:05] <gnudoge> yes
[22:05] <Guest96693> no i opened applicaton finder
[22:05] <Guest96693> i got chrome
[22:06] <Guest96693> do you want that?
[22:06] <gnudoge> welp, open chrome and go to without quotes "file:///"
[22:06]  * tgm4883 reads backlog
[22:06] <Guest96693> k so what now?
[22:07] <gnudoge> do you see your files? did you put     file:///      into the address bar?
[22:07] <Guest96693> yes i see folders
[22:07] <gnudoge> yay ur files!
[22:07] <TheNH813> Well, I'm back.
[22:07] <Guest96693> no i want my desktop
[22:08] <Bassem> minimec: should i use ctrl c
[22:08] <Guest96693> i can get to my files
[22:08] <minimec> Bassem: You see. we are caught in a circle... we cannot configure 'bluez', we cannot remove 'bluez'. If we cannot solve that 'bluez' problem, we cannot get a sane package status.
[22:08] <gnudoge> I don't do desktops sorry.  but if you ever need files let me know.
[22:08] <Guest96693> so what can i do
[22:08] <Bassem> minimec: isn't there like save mode where you can do any thing
[22:09] <Guest96693> SO WHAT CAN I DO TO GET MY DESKTOP BACK
[22:09] <gnudoge> pull a backup of the home directory and reinstall?
[22:09] <Guest96693> me?
[22:09] <gnudoge> yup
[22:09] <minimec> Bassem: Ok. We will 'pkill -9 dpkg' again....
[22:09] <gnudoge> kek
[22:09] <Guest96693> k so what do i do
[22:09] <Bassem> minimec: i got some thing strange on the screen
[22:10] <gnudoge> pgrep -u user dpkg
[22:10] <Guest96693> how can i reset my whole desktop
[22:10] <Guest96693> clean slate
[22:10] <gnudoge> Guest96693: make a backup of /home/; reinstall
[22:10] <wcsantos> hey guys!
[22:10] <Bassem> minimec: eth1 transmit timed out, tx_status ff 0800
[22:10] <gnudoge> hi
[22:10] <TheNH813> Guest96693: It sounds like you need to boot the Live CD, backup your files by copying them to a flash drive, and reinstalling Ubuntu.
[22:10] <Guest96693> emty
[22:10] <Bassem> minimec: diagnostic net ffff media ffff dma ffffffff fifo ffff
[22:10] <gnudoge> Guest96693: get your files; reinstall
[22:11] <tgm4883> Uh, has anyone attempted checking another user?
[22:11] <Guest96693> how do i beck it up
[22:11] <tgm4883> Guest96693: have you tried logging in as a different user?
[22:11] <Guest96693> back up sorry
[22:11] <gnudoge> external resource
[22:11] <Guest96693> how do i do that?
[22:11] <TheNH813> One second. Let me get a link.
[22:11] <minimec> Bassem: That seems to be network related but should not have an influence on the running dpkg process, because that bluez package is already downloaded.
[22:11] <Bassem> minimec: eth1 transmitter encountered 16 collisions -- network cable problem
[22:11] <Bassem> minimec: it keep repeating on the screen
[22:12] <TheNH813> Guest96693: Do you have the disk or USB you used to install Ubuntu?
[22:12] <Bassem> minimec: what to do now
[22:13] <gnudoge> Bassem: can you run      dmesg | tail -n 20       and paste that in a pastebin?  It might help us.
[22:13] <TheNH813> Guest96693: ???
[22:14] <gnudoge> Bassem: and did you try running        pgrep -u root dpkg       ?
[22:14] <minimec> Bassem: I am out of ideas. I would personnaly reboot one again, maybe remove all packages in /var/apt/archives and also everything in '/var/lib/apt/lists/'. then start over again with sudo apt-get update....
[22:14] <TheNH813> Guest96693: You there?
[22:14] <TheNH813> I guess not.
[22:15] <ngomes> hello
[22:15] <gnudoge> hi
[22:15] <TheNH813> Hello.
[22:15] <gnudoge> TheNH813: u fixt it; thanks.
[22:15] <Startrek852> Hello!
[22:15] <ngomes> anyone with experience in making deb packages ?
[22:15] <ngomes> i'm trying to make an portable aplication a package in order to merge to my system
[22:16] <Bassem> gnudoge: paste.ubuntu.com/19119866
[22:16] <Startrek852> If I compile git or make on Kubuntu 15
[22:16] <gnudoge> thanks
[22:16] <Bassem> gnudoge: paste.ubuntu.com/19119866
[22:16] <Startrek852> darnit
[22:16] <ngomes> the issue i'm having is because its not from source , its already a binary file
[22:16] <Bassem> gnudoge: paste.ubuntu.com/19119866
[22:16] <ngomes> one file only
[22:16] <TheNH813> ngomes: Well, you could just copy the files to the right places.
[22:16] <tgm4883> ngomes: a portable application?
[22:16] <TheNH813> And create a shortcut in /usr/share/applications
[22:17] <ngomes> tgm4883, i guess so
[22:17] <tgm4883> ngomes: what's the purpose of the application?
[22:17] <Startrek852> If I compile git or make on Kubuntu 15.10, then install it on Ubuntu 14.04.4, will they work?
[22:17] <ngomes> TheNH813, i know that , but i would prefer to make a package in order to keep track of it
[22:17] <Startrek852> *install them
[22:17] <TheNH813> Startrek852: No.
[22:17] <TheNH813> It won't work because of different library versions
[22:17] <tgm4883> Startrek852: you can, you'd need to build it in a pbuilder
[22:18] <gnudoge> Bassem: are you using Windows file shares?
[22:18] <ngomes> tgm4883, etcher ... its a usb iso creator
[22:18] <tgm4883> Startrek852: or better, in an LXC container
[22:18] <Bassem> minimec: how to remove all packages
[22:18] <TheNH813> ngomes: Ah, well I think I might be able to point you in the right direction
[22:18] <ngomes> tgm4883, makes bootable isos on a usb disk
[22:18] <Bassem> gnudoge: i have windows on other partion
[22:19] <minimec> Bassem: did you kill the dpkg process?
[22:19] <gnudoge> no, smb is a network file share.  do you file share at all?
[22:19] <Bassem> minimec: i rebooted
[22:19] <gnudoge> minimec: I'll get him there.  I think eth0 is crappin out.
[22:19] <Startrek852> tgm4883: How would I use an LXC container?
[22:19] <TheNH813> ngomes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146343/how-to-create-a-deb-package-that-installs-a-series-of-files
[22:19] <TheNH813> That may be the answer
[22:19] <TheNH813> You coudl manually create th escripts and compress it into a .deb
[22:19] <minimec> gnudoge: I don'tunderstand...
[22:20] <gnudoge> check out that paste bin
[22:21] <hammer25> hey guys, I'm running a rsapberry pi with an SD card, and I want to write the contents of it to a USB drive. How to I tell what their corresponding device files are?
[22:21] <JFlash> hi, what would cause my ubuntu laptop to not see available wifi networks that all the other nearby devices see?
[22:21] <tgm4883> Startrek852: create an lxc container of 14.04, download your build tools/deps into it, build the package normally, then copy the deb files wherever you need them
[22:21] <tgm4883> !lxc
[22:21] <tgm4883> !lxd
[22:21] <tgm4883> meh
[22:21] <JFlash> I have been plagued by connectivity problem on my laptop since I moved to this new bedroom, but all other devices work just fine
[22:21] <TheNH813> Well, I gotta go for now. Laters.
[22:22] <Bassem> gnudoge: what to do?
[22:22] <rypervenche> hammer25: fdisk -l and/or dmesg after you plug in it. Also, sudo blkid is really nice.
[22:23] <YankDownUnder> JFlash: Did this work before in a different location?
[22:24] <JFlash> sure, and it also works now if I get closer to the wireless router
[22:24] <gnudoge> Bassem: try stopping smb with    sudo service smb stop
[22:24] <JFlash> but the laptop is the only one that has this behavior, of all my other devices
[22:24] <gnudoge> Bassem: then try reproducing the error
[22:24] <minimec> Bassem: gnudoge: I see what you mean, but the packages should already be on his computer in /var/cache/apt/archives. Installation failed with 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'. I think the download of the packages went well. It was during installation, where the bluez package failed to install.
[22:25] <Startrek852> tgm4883: How do I create an LXC container?
[22:25] <YankDownUnder> JFlash: Depending on the card/driver, there may be ways to make adjustments to the "gain" on the wifi in order to get a better signal. As well, bear in mind that "wifi" is a radio signal - there are objects that can reflect/deflect or obstruct those signals.
[22:26] <gnudoge> minimec: that stands to reason.
[22:26] <Bassem> gnudoge: first command unrecognized service
[22:26] <minimec> Bassem: gnudoge: So we tried to 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' after a 'pkill' of the installation process and a reboot. That '--configure -a' failed again when getting to the 'bluez' package.
[22:27] <gnudoge> oh,  try      sudo service smbd stop;
[22:27] <JFlash> Yank, sure but how come this issues only affect the laptop. I can use the android tablet and phone from a much further corner of the room and I get great speeds
[22:28] <JFlash> YankDownUnder, while the laptop has to be by the door and even gets spotty connection/ terrible speeds
[22:28] <YankDownUnder> JFlash: Have you tried putting the laptop in different areas of the room to see if you get a better signal?
[22:28] <Bassem> minimec: what to do now
[22:29] <Kwiatuszyn> Hi
[22:29] <JFlash> YankDownUnder, I probably dont even get a signal bar at all if it's not close to the door
[22:29] <YankDownUnder> JFlash: "By the door" - so there's interference inherent in that...the door jamb, the cables running through the wall, the joists, etc etc etc...just saying. Thinking logically.
[22:29] <gnudoge> Bassem: did you try        sudo service smbd stop
[22:29] <Kwiatuszyn> Can someone help me ? :)
[22:29] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: may be
[22:29] <ngomes> so,  there is no tool to make deb packages easy
[22:29] <JFlash> YankDownUnder, sorry let me rephase that
[22:30] <JFlash> YankDownUnder, the router is downstair . "by the door" means the closest location to the router that doesnt erequire me to leave the room
[22:30] <Bassem> gnudoge: i told you i get error unrecognized service
[22:30] <YankDownUnder> JFlash: So have you tried different areas in the room to see if the signal gets stronger?
[22:30] <gnudoge> I asked for 2 different outputs.   1).   service smb stop  2).  service smbd stop
[22:31] <JFlash> JFlash, as I said, because the other areas in the room are farther away, I dont even geet a signal bar
[22:31] <Kwiatuszyn> Ok :) I have a problem with VNC. I host TS3 server and i will create music bot but ts3 client on VNC all time crash after a few hours. I don't know how fix it :/
[22:31] <JFlash> YankDownUnder, sorry, I just called you JFlash
[22:31] <Bassem> gnudoge: smbd stop/waiting
[22:32] <gnudoge> good, I think it may have been crashing the connection
[22:32] <YankDownUnder> JFlash: So then, with that established, have you tried just adjusting the antenna on the router slightly to see if that will affect the broadcast of the signal?
[22:32] <JFlash> YankDownUnder, but bad signal is only one of the problems , btw
[22:32] <gnudoge> minimec: what is next step?
[22:32] <tatertots> JFlash you mentioned connectivity issues since you "moved to this new room" suggests no connectivity issues in the 'old' room and also suggest environmental
[22:33] <JFlash> YankDownUnder, sometimes I cannot even detect most of the available networks
[22:33] <jaccess> Hi there, if everytime I use some cmd I actually want 'cmd -a' is there a way to set up so I can just type cmd but it actually runs cmd -a. For example, "wget [url]" should actually run "wget -c [url]"
[22:33] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge do you know how can i fix it ? :)
[22:33] <JFlash> YankDownUnder, than I have to restart several times, like in a lottery, and at some points it does find the network that I need it to find
[22:33] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: what was the question
[22:33] <gnudoge> Bassem: did you try to reproduce the initial error with samba off?
[22:34] <minimec> Bassem: gnudoge: So let's guess that samba really had something to with it (I don't think so). we still need a 'clear' package status. So we have to 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'. Otherwise we cannot work with the package managment anymore.
[22:34] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: I have a problem with VNC. I host TS3 server and i will create music bot but ts3 client on VNC all time crash after a few hours. I don't know how fix it :/
[22:34] <YankDownUnder> JFlash: As I mentioned in the beginning, there are generally ways of making adjustments to the hardware properties of the wifi card that you're using - but that is dependent on the hardware and driver - which is worth researching.
[22:34] <JFlash> tatertots, what I was sayin by that is that I tested and this problem is related to proximity to the wifi router
[22:34] <Bassem> gnudoge: how?
[22:34] <JFlash> tatertots, but the other devices work fine at much further distances
[22:34] <tgm4883> JFlash: what nic?
[22:34] <Bassem> minimec: you want me to try to configure again
[22:34] <minimec> gnudoge: By the way. We appreciate your help.
[22:34] <JFlash> what is a nic?
[22:34] <tgm4883> JFlash: what wireless card do you have
[22:35] <YankDownUnder> "nic" - Network Interface Card
[22:35] <gnudoge> minimec: copy that.  Kwiatuszyn thats intense
[22:35] <JFlash> what command do Ihave to run to tell me ?
[22:35] <tgm4883> JFlash: can you pastebin the output of 'lspci'
[22:35] <tgm4883> !pastebin | JFlash
[22:35] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: what does    tailf /var/log/messages            say when it happens
[22:36] <HappySomethingSo> why can't I seed with transmission? the port is open
[22:36] <YankDownUnder> JFlash:  the first you'd want to determine is the make/model of the wifi card - open a terminal and type: sudo lspci | more [22:36] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: you can use tail to look at the end of a file and tailf to follow the tail of a file.
[22:36] <JFlash> tgm4883, http://hastebin.com/fohanudeta.css
[22:36] <gnudoge> minimec: no worries
[22:36] <gnudoge> minimec: sounded like broken packages, normally network down issues.
[22:37] <Bassem> minimec: so what to do
[22:37] <tgm4883> JFlash: what about 'lsb_release -r'
[22:37] <JFlash> btw, google tells me my intel card and ubuntu dont have always got along with each other, however I fail to understand what I can do about it.
[22:38] <minimec> Bassem: gnudoge: Question is. Can we clean the package cache, with 'sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin' and 'sudo rm *.* /var/lib/apt/lists' and start over again with 'sudo apt-get update'?
[22:38] <JFlash> tgm4883, 15.4
[22:38] <Bassem> minimec: ok will try
[22:38] <YankDownUnder> JFlash: Google may have resolved the issue - not necessarily to YOUR liking...
[22:38] <Bassem> minimec: should we do it in save mode?
[22:38] <tgm4883> JFlash: that shouldn't be what it told you
[22:38] <minimec> Bassem: Gve us a moment...
[22:38] <hammer25> Ok, now that I have identified the two devices, the command "sudo dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/dev/sda" should copy the contents of the SD card (mmcblk0) to the thumb drive, correct?
[22:38] <Bassem> minimec: ok i'll wait for you
[22:38] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: try reading through the error logs in /var/log/ for more details about the creash if there isn't a report.   you can also run htop and type the letter 's' on the process name to strace for further diagnostics
[22:39] <JFlash> tgm4883, sorry 15.04
[22:39] <tgm4883> JFlash: but in the event that you did type that in correctly, I would try 16.04
[22:39] <tgm4883> since 15.04 isn't supported anymore
[22:39] <tgm4883> !15.04
[22:39] <gnudoge> Bassem:   if you reboot you may need to stop smbd again
[22:39] <JFlash> ok, so this have a chance to fix my issue?
[22:39] <Bassem> gnudoge: i'll do what you say
[22:39] <tgm4883> JFlash: posibly
[22:40] <JFlash> ok I will try that
[22:40] <gnudoge> minimec: I would use a find instead of rm
[22:40] <JFlash> anything else before I leave to upgrade linux?
[22:41] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: Do you want to log error from the ts3 client ?
[22:41] <rypervenche> minimec: Don't ever use rm with * like that. Go with find and then when you are sure of the list it gives you, add the -delete flag to it.
[22:41] <minimec> Bassem: gnudoge: Could you give him the command you would execute: That might help.
[22:41] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: in a paste bin I'll take a look at it
[22:41] <Bassem> minimec: what command?
[22:41] <JFlash> YankDownUnder, tgm4883 , and evryone else, thanks for all the help
[22:41] <gnudoge> cd into the cache directory
[22:41] <minimec> rypervenche: gnudoge: I see ;)
[22:42] <JFlash> if I dont come back is because I botched my bootloader while doing it
[22:42] <JFlash> cheeers!
[22:42] <asgharpolo> hello guys
[22:42] <gnudoge> find ./ -type f -exec grep -iHn 'vars_to_lookfor' {} \;
[22:42] <asgharpolo> can someone put this link for me in another location
[22:42] <asgharpolo> https://dl.google.com/android/android-sdk_r24.4.1-linux.tgz
[22:43] <asgharpolo> i cant download that
[22:43] <Bassem> gnudoge: ???
[22:43] <asgharpolo> someone please help
[22:43] <mabus> i got you
[22:43] <gnudoge> Bassem: I'll brb I'm going to go look at my own system
[22:43] <mabus> cert is invalid btw
[22:44] <mabus> thats pobably why whatever you are using is failing
[22:44] <tatertots> why can't you download it asgharpolo?...
[22:44] <asgharpolo> because i live at iran
[22:45] <mabus> asgharpolo: eta 4 minutes
[22:45] <mabus> aculei.net/~mabus/android-sdk_r24.4.1-linux.tgz when its done
[22:46] <asgharpolo> mabus, really thanks
[22:46] <asgharpolo> i am downloading that
[22:46] <Startrek855> Anyone?
[22:46] <mabus> its still not done, dont start it yet
[22:46] <mabus> the copy wont be good unless youw ait until its done
[22:46] <mabus> eta 2 minutes
[22:47] <asgharpolo> okay
[22:47] <asgharpolo> i stops that now
[22:47] <asgharpolo> it is stopped now
[22:48] <gnudoge> Bassem:
[22:48] <gnudoge> user@ubuntu:/var/cache/apt$ sudo find ./ -type f -name '*.bin' -exec mv {} ./{}.bak \;
[22:48] <Bassem> gnudoge: yes
[22:48] <asgharpolo> mabus, is it done?
[22:49] <gnudoge> k let me see about the otherone
[22:49] <Startrek855> Should I set up a LXC container or should I setup a VirtualBox VM?
[22:49] <samtcg> complete new ubuntu user here. Whenever I type stuff in the terminal, say ls or cd. Nothing happens
[22:49] <Bassem> gnudoge: what other one
[22:50] <minimec> Bassem: so 'cd /var/cache/apt', then 'sudo find ./ -type f -name '*.bin' -exec mv {} ./{}.bak \;'
[22:50] <tgm4883> Startrek855: I don't even know your original question
[22:51] <tgm4883> Ah you changed names I'm guessing
[22:51] <tgm4883> Startrek855: why would you setup a full VM when an LXC container would do
[22:51] <Startrek855> Oh yeah, sorry.
[22:52] <Startrek852> Hey
[22:52] <gnudoge> minimec: for the second one 'mv /var/lib/apt/lists /var/lib/apt/lists.bak; mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists; chmod 0755 /var/lib/apt/lists
[22:52] <asgharpolo> mabus, ????
[22:52] <gnudoge> '
[22:52] <Bassem> gnudoge: got >
[22:52] <mabus> asgharpolo: yeah done now
[22:52] <Startrek852> tgm4883: can you tell me how to setup an LXC container?
[22:52] <asgharpolo> mabus, thanks
[22:52] <gnudoge> minimec: does that look right?
[22:53] <gnudoge> chown root # all the things
[22:53] <tgm4883> Startrek852: first, 'apt install lxc'
[22:54] <minimec> gnudoge: looks ok.
[22:54] <tgm4883> Startrek852: first, 'apt install lxd'
[22:54] <tgm4883> sorry, not lxc
[22:54] <felipec> Hi everybody. Ubuntu 16.04 installed, usb ports do not work
[22:54] <gnudoge> Bassem: did you get that?
[22:54] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: http://pastebin.com/ar14uFHp
[22:54] <Bassem> gnudoge: no it's too long command
[22:54] <gnudoge> minimec: other than using absolute paths huh?  kekekekek
[22:54] <Bassem> and here the page keep moving in the channel
[22:54] <gnudoge> thanks Kwiatuszyn i'll check it out.
[22:55] <Bassem> gnudoge: wait sec
[22:55] <gnudoge> run as root
[22:55] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: I thank you
[22:55] <gnudoge> np
[22:55] <Bassem> gnudoge: how?
[22:55] <YankDownUnder> felipec: It may be that other drivers are required for your system. Have you checked?
[22:56] <gnudoge> will in ubuntu land we run as sudo.  shall I tidy up?  one sec
[22:56] <minimec> Bassem: 2nd one ^^ see above oist by gnudoge. In words. We rename the 'lists' folder to lists.bak, and then create a new 'lists' foler and give it the approriate 'permissions' with chmod.
[22:57] <felipec> YankDownUnder, no I did not. How do I check it?
[22:57] <YankDownUnder> felipec: In the "Software and Updates" centre, there is an option to check for "other drivers"...
[22:57] <Startrek852> tgm4883: let me get to my computer.
[22:57] <ark-knight> is there an easy way to set up automatic installation?
[22:58] <felipec> YankDownUnder, OK, give me a minute please
[22:58] <gnudoge> sudo su; cd /var/lib/apt/; mv lists lists.bak; mkdir lists; chmod 0755 lists; pwd       Bassem what is the last line of output from that?
[22:59] <gnudoge> nope
[22:59] <gnudoge> wont work
[22:59] <gnudoge> sudo su     then the strings
[22:59] <tgm4883> Startrek852: once you install that, then you create the container via "lxc launch ubuntu:14.04 <containername>". It will download about 100MB for the image (although will be faster if you need to do it again as the fiels are now local)
[23:00] <tgm4883> Startrek852: then you can get in the container 'lxc exec <containername> /bin/bash' and install whatever you need and build the packages
[23:00] <felipec> YankDownUnder. It says: Unknown: Unknown. This device is using an alternative driver. Using Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs from Intel microcode (prtopietary) "cheched"
[23:01] <YankDownUnder> felipec: So does it say "Apply" or similar?
[23:01] <Bassem> gnudoge: root@bs-desktop:/home/bs#
[23:02] <vook> Is there an irc channel other than #lxcontainers that is appropriate for LXD questions?  It's pretty dead in there.
[23:02] <hammer25> so i copied the files on and sd card to a usb drive using "sudo dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/dev/sda", its taking quite a while with no indication it is working. is there a way to see what is happening?
[23:02] <gnudoge> kek
[23:02] <gnudoge> I mean
[23:02] <gnudoge> Bassem: you should cd into /var/lib/apts
[23:03] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: The audio driver is crashing
[23:03] <Kwiatuszyn> But you know how can i fix it ?
[23:03] <Bassem> gnudoge: and do the last command sudo su; cd /var/lib/apt/; mv lists lists.bak; mkdir lists; chmod 0755 lists; pwd
[23:03] <gnudoge> Bassem: I'll guide you through them
[23:04] <gnudoge> just get into /var/lib/apt/
[23:04] <Bassem> gnudoge: now im on apt folder
[23:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[23:04] <tgm4883> vook: you could ask in here if it's a ubuntu question
[23:04] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: is it a third party audio driver?
[23:04] <felipec> YankDownUnder: "Apply Changes" button, but I can not clik on it
[23:04] <gnudoge> mv -iv lists lists.bak
[23:04] <Kwiatuszyn> No it's a pulse audio
[23:05] <gnudoge> Are there third party driver avalible?
[23:05] <Bassem> gnudoge: you talking to me?
[23:06] <gnudoge> Bassem: mv -iv lists lists.bak
[23:06] <felipec> YankDownUnder: I mean, It is disable
[23:06] <YankDownUnder> felipec: Right. Well. Something you can try - in order to "jolt" the kernel into possibly recognising the USB ports, is to shut down the machine, get into your BIOS, turn off the COM ports - and possibly the LPT port, and then boot again into Ubuntu and see if anything changes...and by the way, how are you testing to see if your USB ports are accessible?
[23:06] <Bassem> gnudoge: done
[23:07] <gnudoge> Bassem: mkdir lists; chmod 0755 lists
[23:07] <gnudoge> minimec: what nao?
[23:07] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: is it an onboard soundcard?
[23:07] <Bassem> gnudoge: يخىث
[23:07] <Bassem> gnudoge: done
[23:08] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: i think yes. It's soundcard on my VPS server
[23:09] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: so its virtual..... hmmmm hosting provider perhaps?
[23:09] <Bassem> minimec: what now
[23:10] <felipec> YankDownUnder: Sticking a usb unit into the three ports.
[23:10] <gnudoge> Bassem: I believe you where using ' dpkg --configure -a ' but I just wanted to chekc with minimec
[23:10] <YankDownUnder> felipec: Er...what KIND of USB - a flash drive? A what?
[23:10] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: I don't know :/ How can i check it ?
[23:10] <minimec> Bassem: gnudoge: Did he remove the packages in /var/cache/apt/ (I did not follow). I yes. I would first try to 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' (just for a check) then 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[23:11] <gnudoge> from cli run 'alsamixer'
[23:11] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn:
[23:11] <gnudoge> Bassem: will you make sure that all ofthe files are in .bak form?
[23:12] <felipec> YankDownUnder: Kingston dtse9 8gb, dell 1tb portable external hard drive, Huawei cell phone...
[23:12] <YankDownUnder> felipec: Well, the "mass storage" would be more than enough to test. Either which, try what I suggested about BIOS.
[23:13] <felipec> YankDownUnder: OK, I will do it. Thanks
[23:13]  * gnudoge goes on break back in 15; Kwiatuszyn you can pm if you need to.
[23:13] <Bassem> gnudoge: how>
[23:14] <gnudoge> Bassem:  just use ls inside the directories we have modified the files/directories in.  just look and make sure they are whatever.bak
[23:15] <gnudoge> then read ^^ at minimec
[23:16] <Bassem> minimec: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19124428
[23:16] <asgharpolo> can i programming for android with monodevelopment in ubuntu ?
[23:17] <gnudoge> looks good
[23:18] <gnudoge> Bassem: then in /var/lib/apt the 2 .bin should be in .bak form
[23:18] <asgharpolo> can i programming for android with monodevelopment in ubuntu ?
[23:19] <Bassem> gnudoge: i did ls in the /var/lib/apt
[23:19] <gnudoge> and pkgcache and srcpkgcache.bin are in .bak?
[23:20] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[23:20] <gnudoge> pkgcache.bin.bak  srcpkgcache.bin.bak
[23:20] <minimec> Bassem: gnudoge: I agree that creating an empty 'list' folder was a good thing to do, and yet we might still have all the packages in '/var/cache/apt/archives', including the cache (.bin) files in '/var/cache/apt'. I think we would have to remove them too.
[23:21] <gnudoge> It should just be .bak or old.file.bak and will be ok.
[23:22] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: i cannot open alsamixer from terminal :.
[23:22] <Bassem> minimec: what to do now
[23:22] <gnudoge> its not a bandaid in this case it is whole roll of gauze.  ;)
[23:23] <minimec> Bassem: well. We cleaned the package list. So we have to do 'sudo apt-get update'
[23:23] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: you can  'apt -y install alsamixer'
[23:24] <Bassem> minimec: i did the command
[23:24] <Bassem> minimec: wont we do the config command
[23:26] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: E: Unable to locate packeage alsamixer
[23:26] <minimec> Bassem: Well we will see now. We try a 'sudo apt-get upgrade'. I did not follow all the posts... If the 'bluez' package is still in /archives, it will not work problably.
[23:26] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: apt install alsa-utils
[23:27] <Bassem> minimec: how to check if it's there or not
[23:27] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: E: Unable to locate packeage alsa-units
[23:27] <minimec> Bassem: If 'upgrade' doesn't work we do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[23:27] <Bassem> minimec: can't we do it first
[23:27] <minimec> Bassem: We can...
[23:28] <Bassem> minimec: im afraid to get into all this again
[23:28] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn:  its   alsa-utils
[23:28] <gnudoge> dpkg -> apt
[23:29] <gnudoge> but they are more <==> but I wont go that far
[23:29] <minimec> Bassem: You might... To be sure I would 'sudo rm *.deb /var/cacha/apt/archives'. My way... )
[23:29] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge it was installed
[23:30] <Bassem> minimec: ok done the update command
[23:30] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: now alsmixer will give you detailed information about the drivers
[23:30] <Bassem> minimec: now what
[23:30] <minimec> Bassem: apt-get upgrade
[23:30] <gnudoge> alsamixer
[23:30] <pizza> hi dudes
[23:31] <gnudoge> hi pizza
[23:31] <pizza> whats going on?
[23:31] <gnudoge> not pizza
[23:31] <pizza> u.u
[23:31] <gnudoge> I want pizza, I need to eat
[23:31] <pizza> hahaha
[23:32] <YankDownUnder> sudo apt-get pizza pizza-box pizza-ingredients => "Pizza not found"
[23:32] <gnudoge> pizza on a bagel sounds awesome.
[23:32] <pizza> jajaja
[23:32] <pizza> but classical pizza is better than everything
[23:32] <pizza> pepperoni pizza
[23:32]  * gnudoge actually laughs out loud
[23:32] <Bassem> minimec: e:sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code 1
[23:32] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: It was already installed. Still he wants to run alsamixer shows me that I can not: /
[23:33] <minimec> Bassem: On what package?
[23:33] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: checking
[23:34] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: the alsa-utils will help in this case.  moar options = may not break
[23:34] <Bassem> gnome-keyring-3.14.0-1+b1_amd64.deb
[23:34] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: So why i cannot run alsamixer ?
[23:34] <pizza> someone used hollywood terminal?
[23:35] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: I can not produce the same issue.  My vps with ubutnu 16.04 64 was able to bring up alsamixer without any issues.  You may need to contact the service provider for further details.
[23:35] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: you type alsamixer in the terminal ?
[23:36] <minimec> Bassem: How is that possible... 'sudo apt-get update | pasteinit' ... I want to see your repository list...
[23:36] <yw> need help with x11vnc, on a new ubuntu 16 vm did these steps http://paste2.org/Fgmebcf7 and can't start vnc :(
[23:36] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: now that the alsa-utils are installed this may help with TS.  And yes.  I installed alsa-utils and brought up alsamixer in cli.
[23:36] <yw> tatertots ^
[23:37] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[23:37] <gnudoge> hmmm you typed                  alsamixer
[23:37] <gnudoge> ?
[23:37] <Kwiatuszyn> yep :/
[23:37] <gnudoge> Very strange indeed
[23:38] <Bassem> minimec: http://paste.ubuntu.come/19126089
[23:39] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: so ummm I tried a command and it is a diagnostic.  I will run in and get back results, then I will pastebin.
[23:39] <Kwiatuszyn> okok :)
[23:40] <minimec> Bassem: Why would you have all these 'http://httpredir.debian.org' repositories???
[23:41] <Bassem> minimec: ??
[23:41] <Bassem> minimec: i donno any thing
[23:42] <Bashing-om> Bassem: minimec What gives " Err http://extras.ubuntu.com jessie/main Sources" trying to mix ubuntu and debian sources ???
[23:42] <minimec> Bassem: I mean there are a lot of 'http://httpredir.debian.org' repositories in your list. What did you do to get then? >> notice Bassem
[23:43] <minimec> Bassem: I mean there are a lot of 'http://httpredir.debian.org' repositories in your list. What did you do to get then? >> notice Bashing-om
[23:43] <Bassem> minimec: honestly donno
[23:44] <minimec> Bassem: Ok.. Boy. That explains a lot... Give me a moment....
[23:45] <Bassem> minimec: ok
[23:45] <gnudoge> Kwiatuszyn: that didn't go so well.  It told me to "Please inform the person helping you." so now I am completly lost on this issue.  I think your VPS hosting provider should be informed.  This is 16.04 ubuntu correct?
[23:46] <Kwiatuszyn> gnudoge: nope 14.04
[23:46] <gnudoge> should still work.  It may be a repo issue, but if alsamixer is not working in the terminal I would try it in byobu, then if that fails look at the strace.
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Bassem: minimec : Clean up the sources ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' to see what we have to do ???
[23:48] <a7i3n> autoremove
[23:48] <a7i3n> oops
[23:48] <a7i3n> wrong screen
[23:49] <minimec> Bassem: Bashing-om: I was about to create a new sources.list with https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php
[23:49] <Bashing-om> Bassem: Not ,y call... yours - Yall have been at this for some time .... It only takes 20 munutes to RE-install. with a good internet connection  :)
[23:50] <Bashing-om> minimec: suggest we fix what is in place  rather than a new one .. that due to what is now installed .. maybe corrupted ?
[23:50] <minimec> Bashing-om: Bashing-om: Ok.
[23:51] <gnudoge> chroot # all the things!
[23:51] <minimec> Bassem: Follow the commands posted by Bashing-om above...
[23:51] <Bashing-om> minimec: It is your call ! .. Welcome to the learning process .. the learning curve can get steep .
[23:52] <nomic> how to: install updates from command line
[23:52] <nomic> is apt-get update
[23:52] <gnudoge> nomic: then apt-get upgrade
[23:52] <hammer25> How do I close an instance of a file in vim after I suspended it with ctrl Z?
[23:52] <Bashing-om> nomic: 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[23:52] <nomic> thanks
[23:52] <nomic> thought so
[23:52] <Bassem> Bashing-om: what to do
[23:52] <mutante> hammer25: try "fg"
[23:53] <jim> a7i3n, don't worry, we all make mistakes, and yours didn't cause damage or disruption
[23:53] <mutante> hammer25: fg for foreground, to get stuff back from the background
[23:53] <Bashing-om> Bassem: What do you want to do .. It is ypur frustration level here we have to deal with .. I am always for fixing .. RE-install is for wimps .
[23:53] <hammer25> its saying "not and editor command"
[23:53] <hammer25> where should i type it?
[23:53] <a7i3n> Running two machines one scree was updating on the other device...eek
[23:53] <gnudoge> hammer25: you can also delete the file.swp generated by vim
[23:54] <mutante> hammer25: outside the editor, on shell
[23:54] <Bassem> Bashing-om: minimec told me to follow your instructions
[23:54] <mutante> hammer25: the Ctrl+Z thing is a general thing for any process, not just text file or editor related
[23:54] <gnudoge> Bassem: did apt-get update break?
[23:55] <Bassem> gnudoge: yes
[23:55] <Bashing-om> Bassem: K .. then post ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' and we see what it takes to fix the source list files .
[23:55] <Bassem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19126089
[23:56] <hammer25> mutante: ok, that worked. thank you, i definately need to look into how to use vim more before trying to edit cmdline.txt with it lol
[23:56] <gnudoge> hammer25: make a backup first
[23:57] <Bassem> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19127519
[23:58] <mutante> hammer25: glad to help. so that "sending stuff to background" thing is totally separate from vi, it would work for anything
[23:58] <minimec> Bashing-om: If you mean 'first check the sources' when you're giving support to someone... I learned my lesson... ;)
[23:58] <hammer25> gnudoge: its a raspberry pi.  i figure worse case scenario I would need to reimage the sd card in my laptop
[23:58] <tyrick> Hi, I am having trouble booting after an install
[23:58] <tyrick> I ran boot-repair and got the following:
[23:58] <tyrick> [23:58] <tyrick> The default repair of the Boot-Repair utility would reinstall the grub-efi-amd64-signed of sda2, using the following options:        sda1/boot/efi,
[23:58] <tyrick> Additional repair would be performed: unhide-bootmenu-10s    use-standard-efi-file rename-ms-efi
[23:58] <hammer25> mutante: cool. what other things get sent to the background?
[23:59] <gnudoge> hammer25: saves time to backup a file that small.
[23:59] <gnudoge> hammer25: I moved /etc on a rasp pi once