/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/07/13/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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BluesKajHiyas all09:40
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IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Very quiet here today13:48
* mamarley starts up a jackhammer.13:49
mamarleyHOW ABOUT NOW?13:49
* yofel takes an axe and cuts the air pipe13:50
yofelbetter13:50
acheronukit WAS!13:51
acheronukhave been trying to fix a few blocking builds on KCI13:55
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Did you fix kladp?13:57
acheronukpartially. need to work out where to put some missing files13:58
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> I seen it go green13:59
acheronukkservice was also a failure blocking other builds13:59
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> There are a few fw5.24 need fixing14:02
acheronukclivejo: yes, and a lot of those were waiting on kio-dev, which should build if I can get the other ones I just did to finish14:03
acheronukbut LP is sloooooow14:07
acheronukHmm.. not healthy on KCI "make: *** Cannot allocate memory.  Stop."16:17
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jimarvanhellloooooooooooooooooz lovely peeps! :D17:20
pursuivantmuon (master) v5.6.0-2-g108a7bb * Carlo Vanini: src/PackageModel/PackageDelegate.cpp19:43
pursuivantRemove use of deprecated class QStyleOptionViewItemV4.19:43
pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/108a7bbbe3bc067d0c133110cf3842da11ed1c3a19:43
jimarvanhmm :D19:48
jimarvanhope that does not break anything xD19:48
clivejonice to see someone working on it!19:49
jimarvanmuon is the only "reliable" GUI software packaging, since discover does have its issues...19:49
jimarvanye :D19:49
mparilloYesterday I tested the YY ISO, and I confirmed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-framework/+bug/1560404 is fixed. Two questions: First, does everybody still have "missing" favorites? Second, FF behaves properly on my HP, but gives me a black screen on my T61. Any ideas?20:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1560404 in plasma-framework (Ubuntu Xenial) "Live session desktop uses too small folder view widget" [High,Fix committed]20:20
sicks_tabletYofel thanks for sharing my email, I get the hang of that.20:22
geniiIs there some package for plasmoid development in 16.04 which is the equivalent of plasma-scriptengine-python in 14.04? Have a user enquiring in #kubuntu but i figure someone here might know20:30
valorieplasmate20:32
valorie!info plasmate20:32
ubottuPackage plasmate does not exist in yakkety20:32
valorieperhaps not ported yet?20:32
genii!info plasmate xenial20:33
ubottuPackage plasmate does not exist in xenial20:33
valoriehuh, not even in the list http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html20:33
valoriehttps://terietor.wordpress.com/2014/06/24/porting-plasmate-to-kdevplatform/20:35
valorieseems it might now be just folding into Kdevelop20:35
valoriewhich seems smart to me20:35
valorie!info kdevelop20:35
ubottukdevelop (source: kdevelop): integrated development environment for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 1628 kB, installed size 6494 kB20:35
valoriehmm20:35
valoriethere is a ported version people are using though20:36
valoriethat blog post is from 2014!20:36
sicks_tabletOvidiu: Ping whts the status ith kdevelop and plasmoid support ?20:46
acheronukvalorie: thanks for saying you would sponsor me for a kde bouncer :)20:48
valorieyou are most welcome, acheronuk20:50
valorieyou are doing good work!20:50
valorieif only LP could keep up with us!20:50
acheronukvalorie: Quick Q then. Do I need to apply for a full dev account? i.e. https://identity.kde.org/index.php?r=developerApplication20:51
acheronukor just do a ticket via kde syadmin on https://go.kde.org/u/systickets20:51
acheronukI already have a normal non-dev identity account20:52
valorietry just doing the ticket and mention it is for staying current on KDE packaging for Kubuntu20:53
valorieif they want you to do full devel, that's fine too20:53
acheronukOk. thanks. I'll do that in the next few, and see where I get with it.20:54
valoriethen you can contribute patches upstream more easily20:54
acheronuk*few days20:54
acheronukvalorie: thanks again20:54
valorieI'll watch my email20:55
valorie:-)20:55
clivejoanyone working on FW5.24?20:57
valoriethe topic says it's in staging?20:58
clivejoyes20:58
jimarvan:)20:58
clivejofew issues need fixing - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.24.0_yakkety.html20:58
valorieplasma-framework looks broken20:59
clivejowhat gave it away?20:59
clivejothe big red box ?!? :P20:59
acheronukclivejo: I fixed khtml and kross earlier. then got waylayed 21:01
clivejodont worry, I got it21:01
clivejooups21:02
clivejowaylayed, not wayland!21:02
acheronukwaylaid? not sure. lol21:02
jimarvanhahahaha21:02
jimarvanget a room xD21:03
acheronukI got sidetracked. distracted.....21:03
jimarvanhmm21:04
jimarvanI am looking at the log21:04
jimarvanI do not see any failures... o.O21:07
valorielots of warnings about deprecated plasma stuff though21:08
jimarvantrue21:08
jimarvanbut it still built successfully no?21:09
valoriefrom like 41% on21:09
valorieover and over21:09
jimarvantrue21:09
valoriebut yes, I see no errors as such, and successful build reported21:11
valorieso why is it red21:11
valorie?21:11
jimarvanexactly... :S21:11
valorieStatus: successful21:12
jimarvanI think it had so many warnings, it blushed21:12
valorielol21:12
jimarvan:D21:12
acheronukis this plasma-framework?21:12
jimarvanyeap21:12
jimarvanooooh21:12
jimarvanthere are two21:12
jimarvanone red, one orange21:12
jimarvanwith the same name exactly21:12
jimarvanso amd64 didn't build21:13
acheronukclick the /show/hide link21:13
jimarvanand i386 did?21:13
jimarvanthanks acheronuk :))21:13
clivejoit built, but there were errors21:13
jimarvano.O?21:14
jimarvan   /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/lintian.mk:20: recipe for target 'lintian' failed21:14
clivejolintian complains a lot21:15
jimarvanhmm21:15
clivejobut in this case the following lines are the issue21:16
clivejo=== Start list-missing21:16
clivejo-./usr/share/man/ca/man1/plasmapkg2.121:16
clivejo-./usr/share/man/de/man1/plasmapkg2.121:16
clivejo-./usr/share/man/it/man1/plasmapkg2.121:16
clivejo-./usr/share/man/nl/man1/plasmapkg2.121:16
clivejo-./usr/share/man/pt_BR/man1/plasmapkg2.121:16
clivejo-./usr/share/man/sv/man1/plasmapkg2.121:16
clivejo-./usr/share/man/uk/man1/plasmapkg2.121:16
clivejo=== End list-missing21:16
jimarvanye saw them21:16
jimarvanthese are localized files21:16
acheronuk& + _ZN13KPluginTrader23createInstanceFromQueryIN6Plasma16PackageStructureEEEPT_RK7QStringS7_S7_P7QObjectP7QWidgetRK5QListI8QVariantEPS5_@Base 5.24.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa121:16
jimarvaneven the uk version21:16
clivejoso they need to be installed or not installed21:17
acheronukuk=ukranian I think21:17
jimarvanah ye gb21:17
jimarvanright!21:17
jimarvanso you could exclude them for now21:17
jimarvanand optionally install when they are available?21:17
acheronukthey are available. they were built but the packaging doesn't know what to do with them21:18
jimarvanye...21:19
jimarvanDebian revisions should be stripped from versions in symbols files. Not doing so leads to dependencies unsatisfiable by backports (1.0-1~bpo << 1.0-1 while 1.0-1~bpo >= 1.0). If the debian revision can't be stripped because the symbol really appeared between two specific Debian revisions, you should postfix the version with a single "~" (example: 1.0-3~ if the symbol appeared in 1.0-3).21:19
jimarvanThis problem normally means that the symbols were added automatically by dpkg-gensymbols. dpkg-gensymbols uses the full version number for the dependency associated to any new symbol that it detects. The maintainer must update the debian/<package>.symbols file by adding the new symbols with the corresponding upstream version.21:19
jimarvanis this the case?21:19
clivejoacheronuk: that looks like someone has kept the debian version when doing a debian merge21:19
clivejomaybe not, cant find it in symbols file21:22
jimarvanhmm :/21:23
acheronukit's new I think, but can't quite see responsible commit on kde git21:23
clivejosymbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision21:25
acheronukoh, yes, forgetting that part21:26
ahoneybunand I have internet again!21:38
jimarvangz! :D21:38
ahoneybunbeen 2/3 days21:38
ahoneybunbeen lazy to call21:38
valorieo/21:39
ahoneybunhey valorie21:39
valoriedid you change providers?21:39
ahoneybunno21:39
ahoneybunwe were using a rented router21:39
ahoneybunjust used one we had in the house21:39
valoriewe did that for awhile21:41
valorieuntil I got sick of their crap and bought my own21:41
ahoneybunI;ve had no problems till 2 days ago21:42
acheronukvalorie: ticket filed with kde sysadmin :)21:44
acheronukjimarvan: the symbols thing does my head in at times21:44
valorie\o/21:44
acheronukjimarvan: Neon did a fix for the manpages the other day in their git: http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/frameworks/plasma-framework.git/commit/?h=Neon/release&id=8072f8df2cb3f46f4cdc3327899e7c75c11d16ac21:45
jimarvanhmm22:00
jimarvanoh i see22:00
jimarvanthey fixed all the locals22:00
jimarvancan we use that somehow?22:00
jimarvan+usr/share/man/*/man1/plasmapkg2.122:01
valorieimo we have to figure it out, because Debian made a big change in manpages a few months back and eventually everything will be moved to the new system22:02
acheronukI fixed package kross earlier in a similar manner https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kross/log/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive 22:04
valorieimo it would be cool if we could figure out a way to do that programatically22:07
valorieone-offs are a lot of work for y'all22:07
jimarvanvalorie, is it a system change in debian regarding all locales?22:09
valorieum22:10
jimarvanIf so, it is worth to check it out, since I use a multi-language system myself, Greek, GB, US, Italian and Russian22:10
valoriegosh that email was a few months back, let me see if I can find the relevant BR or so22:10
jimarvanok22:10
acheronukKDE devs are also gradually moving some manpages to frameworks22:11
acheronuke.g. see https://todo.kde.org/?controller=task&action=show&task_id=52022:11
jimarvandamn do not have access there22:12
jimarvanhave to remember my username -.-22:12
valoriejimarvan: that uses your KDE identity22:13
valorieif you don't remember, please ask in #kde-sysadmin22:13
jimarvanno worries22:13
valoriewow, my google-fu is failing me22:16
valorieprobably because I don't know much packaging, beyond reading the policy manual22:19
acheronuksometimes that just make me more confused!22:23
valoriehttps://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#manpage seems to be current22:26
valoriedoesn't say much about the changes though22:26
clivejothe debian manual sure does have a certain reading style22:26
valorieseems like it was the KDE-packagers list22:26
valorieright, perfect for falling asleep with22:26
clivejomakes my eyes glaze over22:26
valorieI put it on my kindle for night-time reading22:27
valoriedid the trick; slept like a top!22:27
jimarvangood night peeps talk to you tomorrow :)22:43
jimarvanmy eyes are closing xD22:44
yofeljimarvan, clivejo: that lintian warning about the symbol is aobut the final, generated file. So please read this as: "these symbols are new and have a debian version because they don't another one set in the packaged symbol file"22:44
yofel*don't have22:44
jimarvanok22:45

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