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qenghoGood morning!00:53
jbichaqengho: it's not actually morning for you though, right?00:56
qenghojbicha: it is, this month. UTC+8.00:57
jbichaok, good morning to you then :)00:59
qengho:)01:04
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pittiGood morning06:08
desrtpitti: hi!06:59
desrtquiet morning :)06:59
pittihey desrt, how are you?06:59
desrtpretty good.  leaving the basque country this evening to return home to germany06:59
pitti"home to germany"?06:59
pittididn't that use to be "Canada"?06:59
desrt"it's complicated" ;)07:00
desrthome is still toronto, but köln is increasingly "second home"07:00
pittihah07:00
desrti'm filling out paperwork for a residence permit, even07:00
desrt(since i'm overstaying the tourist visa)07:01
pittiI'll be in Koeln this Saturday for half an hour07:02
desrtcgn?07:02
pittifor changing trains to Delft (seb's place)07:02
desrtor hbf?07:02
pittihbf07:02
pittiwe'll have a little sprint there for systemdifying the desktop session07:02
desrtunfortunately, i will be on my way to poland this saturday :)07:02
desrtcool!07:03
* desrt is off for two weeks starting ... next week07:03
desrtplease make sure you do dbus user sessions :)07:04
pittidesrt: it already does07:04
desrtah.  great.07:04
desrtstill not the default in debian :(07:04
pittihttps://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ubuntu/systemd-session has the prototype07:04
desrti hope you guys have fun :)07:11
pittidesrt: two words: Space Cookies!07:37
desrtlol07:37
desrti honestly didn't peg you for the type :)07:37
pittidesrt: indeed I suck at drugs; I don't smoke, don't drink coffee, and drink very little alcohol too07:38
pittiand I think I've had two shishas in my entire lift07:38
desrt...but a little spacecake here and there is obviously fine for anyone ;)07:38
pittiyeah, I'm curiuos about those :)07:38
pitti"When in Rome, do as the Romans do"07:38
desrtone bit of advice: don't over-do it...07:38
desrtie: after you eat one, you might feel that nothing is happening, so you need to have a few more... don't do that.  it takes a bit of time :)07:39
pittiI won't, you know me07:39
pittiI'm addicted to work and sport, but that's pretty much it07:39
desrt(i mean, unless you want to get positively silly... which might also be fun... i kinda wish i was going to be there now, in fact) :)07:40
pittiyeah, would have been really close from Cologne07:40
desrtwill be in berlin the weekend following for the wedding of an old friend ...07:40
hikikopopey, ping :)07:42
hikiko(+good morning!)07:42
popeyhikiko: hi07:48
hikikohi popey07:49
hikikoI was wondering if you find a solution to this problem:07:49
hikikohttps://askubuntu.com/questions/787258/internal-server-error-when-retrieving-files-from-the-archive-in-lxd07:50
hikikofound*07:50
popeynot had the issue recently07:54
popeysorry07:55
hikikook, thanks popey07:55
Trevinhomorning07:57
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Laneymoin!08:04
seb128hey Laney, how are you?08:05
pittihey Laney, hey seb128!08:07
seb128lut pitti, wie gehts?08:08
pittigut, danke!08:09
pittia bit tired, shouldn't have worked until 1, but I'll cope :)08:09
pittiwhen I say "Britney kept me up for so long", that sounds a lot more exciting that it actually was :-P08:09
seb128haha08:10
Laneyhey seb128 and pitti!08:11
LaneyI am food for mosquito08:12
Laneymy hand is big08:12
seb128:-(08:13
seb128got bitten at debconf?08:13
Laneynope08:14
Laneyat the allotment08:14
Laneythat place is dangerous08:14
pittiis it so damp there?08:15
Laneyhmmmm08:17
Laneywhat do they like to hang around?08:17
Laneythere's a lot of vegetation08:17
seb128water?08:17
Laneyand these 1m³ water things08:18
Laneynot particularly near where I was, but maybe they roam looking for something tasty08:18
seb128internet says they like beer08:19
seb128stop drinking at the allotment!08:19
seb128;-)08:19
pittiI have six beer traps in our garden against the snails, but they don't seem to attract mosquitos08:21
seb128yeah, that page was more saying that they seem to be prefer to bite beer drinkers08:22
LaneyO_O08:22
seb128like if a few people are at the same place the mosquitos are more likely to go for those who had a few beers08:23
davmor2Laney: switch to cider you'll be fine08:23
pittiseb128: ah, they might like the breath :)08:23
Laneylong clothes only there from now on :P08:25
andyrockmorning09:05
Sweet5harkwillcooke: en, es, pt, de, fr, it, ru, pt_BR libreoffice snap build finished, its 348MB.09:13
Sweet5harkhavent played with it yet.09:13
seb128hey andyrock Sweet5hark09:15
seb128Sweet5hark, how big was the no-l10n one?09:16
Sweet5harkseb128: 289MB IIRC09:16
seb128k, 348 seems reasonable09:16
seb128good work!09:16
willcookeSweet5hark, \m/  thanks09:22
willcookeSweet5hark, can you upload today do you think?09:22
willcookehey andyrock09:22
Sweet5harkwillcooke: yes09:22
willcookeSweet5hark, double metal hands!09:23
* Laney eyes yakkety09:56
Laneyis compiz busted?09:57
Laney...in vms?09:57
willcookeLaney, are you running proposed?09:58
Laneynope10:00
Laneybut there isn't a compiz there10:01
willcookehrmm10:01
willcookethen I don't know.  hikiko ^10:01
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/159990010:01
ubot5Launchpad bug 1599900 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in ccsObjectGetInterface_()" [Medium,Confirmed]10:01
hikikohey10:08
Laneyroh10:08
Laneypitti: ddebs.u.c hasn't updated since 05/07, is that known?10:09
hikikoisn't it the bug that was caused by the broken daily build packages willcooke ?10:09
willcookehikiko, oh, I thought that was only for proposed?  But yeah, it sounds like the same thing right?10:09
hikikoyes, I think it was caused because some compiz files were missing10:10
Laneyis there a fix?10:10
pittiLaney: hm, I was working on it last week and recovered some stuff, but I re-enabled the cronjob on Monday, so "not known"10:10
pittiand it's actually running (since 1 am today, so quite long)10:10
Laneypitti: 'k, I saw something about a private PPA broke it or something10:10
Laneyis it going to finish?10:10
pittiLaney: I think cjwatson fixed that the other day10:11
hikikoLaney, no, compiz crashed after an upgrade, then next upgrade fixed the issue: half of the lowgfx files weren't in the package in that daily build that's why10:11
pittiLaney: not sure, I'll give it another few hours and kill it this afternoon10:11
hikikonow the package is complete, at least I don't have that issue anymore10:11
hikikoLaney, I think Trevinho could help more10:12
pittiLaney: actually, I'll kill it right now; no point if the previous few runs didn't update indexes10:12
* pitti runs in foreground10:12
Laneypitti: ack10:12
Laneypitti: It'd be nice if you could make it put the log file somewhere, assuming it writes useful things10:13
Laneyhikiko: you mean the packaging is busted and that's not yet fixed?10:13
pittiI get failures via cron maill, but I can add some logging, yes10:13
pittiit normally runs with --quiet via cron10:13
Laneypitti: > ~/public_html/current.log10:13
hikikoLaney, I think the package was busted and was fixed10:13
* Laney checks ci train10:14
hikikobut Trevinho knows better about the package10:14
Laneynein10:14
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dbarthseb128: hello13:32
dbarthseb128: we have a silo full of webbrowser-app/container SRU fixes13:32
dbarth(the OA one has a problem however)13:32
dbarthjust to let you know13:32
seb128dbarth, hey, oh, good! are you trying to aim for lts .1? you might be a bit short for that13:35
dbarthseb128: yeah .1, but tell me13:36
dbarthbut they are are if there is still time13:36
seb128I can't properly parse that13:37
dbarthseb128: that's silo 051, at https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/165013:37
seb128but I'm not in the team dealing with SRU or .113:37
seb128but .1 is next week and things need to spend a week in proposed and there is the iso testing13:37
dbarthah13:37
seb128so looks tight to me13:37
seb128check with #ubuntu-release I guess13:37
dbarthbut so do i still need to subscribe the release team, or do they get a notification from the ci system now?13:38
dbarthhmm, ok; i'ĺl check there; like at the good old time ;)13:38
Laneyno Trevinho today?14:34
TrevinhoLaney: yeah sure...14:34
* Laney eyes Stealtinho14:35
TrevinhoLaney: I morning'ed few minutes before you did :)14:35
Laneyyou got highlighted many hours ago14:35
Laneyany clue about compiz in yakkety?14:35
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/159990014:36
ubot5Launchpad bug 1599900 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in ccsObjectGetInterface_()" [Medium,Confirmed]14:36
Laneybiab14:38
TrevinhoLaney: yeah, I noticed that but I was working in u8 stuff...14:39
Trevinhoanyway14:39
seb128channel is quiet nowadays!14:40
seb128Trevinho, hikiko said there was a packaging error in yakkety and you had a fix?14:43
Trevinhoseb128: my yakkety wm worked, but I didn't check that much... Let me finish a thing and I'll check that again14:43
seb128k14:44
TrevinhoLaney, seb128: is that bug somewhat reproducible in VMs or where? Is there a pattern for that15:43
Trevinho?15:44
seb128it's reproducible in VMs it seems15:44
seb128m_deslaur had it the other day15:44
seb128seems it only does it with the lowgfx profile15:44
seb128if the ubuntu profile is forced it works15:45
seb128on yakkety15:45
Trevinhomhmh15:45
seb128it's 3 people reporting the issue here now, so it does look like it's any yakkety install15:45
Trevinhoseb128: mh, ok... installing a new daily should cause that issue too?15:48
Trevinhoseb128: or, should I downgrade and...then upgrade?15:49
seb128I didn't try daily so I don't know15:53
seb128I guess you could try to start from xenial and just upgrade unity/compiz15:53
Trevinhomy VM worked though... but I upgraded from silo. And I had acceleration there15:54
Trevinhobut when forcing low_gfx it was working anyway15:54
seb128sorry but I don't know how other tries, maybe Laney or mdeslaur can help you15:56
seb128going for some exercice here15:56
seb128bbiab15:56
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Laneyback16:30
LaneyTrevinho: I just boot yakkety in virt-manager16:30
TrevinhoLaney: mh, latest daily?16:30
Laneyyes16:30
Laneyzsynced it today16:30
TrevinhoLaney: so, no need to upgrade from something, right?16:30
Laneyit did work in the live cd though I think16:31
Laneyalthough I got an apport report there, compiz still came up16:31
Laneyafter installing it doesn't work at all16:31
Laneyfresh install16:31
Laney[and then after you install in this environment you will be able to add the 3.20 ppa and reproduce my nautilus bug too :)]16:31
Laney[muhahaha]16:31
Laneyximion is stalking my github account!16:32
ximionLaney: hey :) - I lost you at the crab tank ^^16:32
Laneyyeah16:32
LaneyI looked for you16:33
ximionI hope you had a safe and less exhausting trip home :)16:33
Laneyand the next morning too, saw juliank16:33
Laneyoh well16:33
Laneyit was straightforward, although I had to wait in london for ages16:33
ximionoh, wow - well, I was there but didn't find you16:33
Laneybecause the trains didn't start for 2 hours or so16:33
ximionby running, I reached the first train and didn't have to wait one more hour at the airport :)16:34
ximionmeh16:34
Laneynice16:34
ximionLaney: btw, the patches look good ^^ - you might want to take a look at https://github.com/iainlane/appstream-generator/commit/8f6043ebdceb42ff3286e3c75baf37b7bf41376d#diff-48d56bbd66b466a8c4f37abaae1fec96L58 though, that would break at Debian unless we also switch to xz soon16:39
Laneyit needs to try more things16:39
Laneynot proposed yet because the environment isn't set up properly16:39
Laneyso can't really do an end to end test16:40
ximionbut I just quickly simmed through the things, so no review done yet ^^16:40
Laneythat http/ftp stuff sucks16:40
Laneymaybe it can be done better16:40
Laneyno hangs with it like this though16:40
ximionthere are other libraries which do this stuff, but the curl lib is the most advanced one so far16:40
ximionbut I understand why the standard library maintainers want to throw it out as soon as possible :P16:41
ximionLaney: https://github.com/ikod/dlang-requests is better, but it doesn't support the CAInfo feature yet16:44
Laneysystem ("curl...")16:46
ximionwell.... :D16:47
Laney:>16:48
ximionspawning stuff has sane API ^^ https://dlang.org/phobos/std_process.html16:49
ximionexcept for stuff like browse(), which I wouldn't have defined or named openPath() and have it open any path with the default app :P16:50
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Laneyhmm17:24
Laneyis xdg autostart just broken?17:24
* Laney gets confused17:24
LaneyHMMMMMMMMMMMM17:28
TrevinhoLaney: mh, well... So I'm getting the crash too, but the weird thing is that... maybe it crash on first start... as things run at the end17:29
Laneydid you install?17:29
n0de01Hi! I'm trying to install eclipse through umake (sudo umake ide eclipse). However I get eclipse as an invalid choice (umake ide: error: argument framework: invalid choice: 'eclipse' (choose from 'lighttable', 'visual-studio-code') Could somebody please help me with this error ?)17:30
Laneynight17:34
TrevinhoLaney: nope, but it happens also when launching the daily17:36
n0de01Seems to be a bug.  Launchpad bug 1591294 in ubuntu-make (Ubuntu) ""umake ide eclipse" returns "invalid choice" despite what manpage says" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1591294.17:37
ubot5Launchpad bug 1591294 in ubuntu-make (Ubuntu) ""umake ide eclipse" returns "invalid choice" despite what manpage says" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:37
Trevinhoseb128: you here?17:59
willcookenight all, off tomorrow, back friday18:10
seb128Trevinho, sorry, was around but on my way to dinner, better to just ask your question so when I walk by I might be able to reply even if I don't want to stop to start a discussion19:05
Trevinhoseb128: since there are fixes for that crashes that needs to resubmit a compiz build... What's the way to do that for the SRU?19:28
seb128Trevinho, unsure, ask on #ubuntu-ci-eng, I think you can re-iterate/force a rebuild&landing which it's in proposed20:10
seb128but I would probably just force merge the current silo20:11
seb128then do a new landing with the followup bugfixes20:11

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