[00:53] <qengho> Good morning!
[00:56] <jbicha> qengho: it's not actually morning for you though, right?
[00:57] <qengho> jbicha: it is, this month. UTC+8.
[00:59] <jbicha> ok, good morning to you then :)
[01:04] <qengho> :)
[06:08] <pitti> Good morning
[06:59] <desrt> pitti: hi!
[06:59] <desrt> quiet morning :)
[06:59] <pitti> hey desrt, how are you?
[06:59] <desrt> pretty good.  leaving the basque country this evening to return home to germany
[06:59] <pitti> "home to germany"?
[06:59] <pitti> didn't that use to be "Canada"?
[07:00] <desrt> "it's complicated" ;)
[07:00] <desrt> home is still toronto, but köln is increasingly "second home"
[07:00] <pitti> hah
[07:00] <desrt> i'm filling out paperwork for a residence permit, even
[07:01] <desrt> (since i'm overstaying the tourist visa)
[07:02] <pitti> I'll be in Koeln this Saturday for half an hour
[07:02] <desrt> cgn?
[07:02] <pitti> for changing trains to Delft (seb's place)
[07:02] <desrt> or hbf?
[07:02] <pitti> hbf
[07:02] <pitti> we'll have a little sprint there for systemdifying the desktop session
[07:02] <desrt> unfortunately, i will be on my way to poland this saturday :)
[07:03] <desrt> cool!
[07:03]  * desrt is off for two weeks starting ... next week
[07:04] <desrt> please make sure you do dbus user sessions :)
[07:04] <pitti> desrt: it already does
[07:04] <desrt> ah.  great.
[07:04] <desrt> still not the default in debian :(
[07:04] <pitti> https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ubuntu/systemd-session has the prototype
[07:11] <desrt> i hope you guys have fun :)
[07:37] <pitti> desrt: two words: Space Cookies!
[07:37] <desrt> lol
[07:37] <desrt> i honestly didn't peg you for the type :)
[07:38] <pitti> desrt: indeed I suck at drugs; I don't smoke, don't drink coffee, and drink very little alcohol too
[07:38] <pitti> and I think I've had two shishas in my entire lift
[07:38] <desrt> ...but a little spacecake here and there is obviously fine for anyone ;)
[07:38] <pitti> yeah, I'm curiuos about those :)
[07:38] <pitti> "When in Rome, do as the Romans do"
[07:38] <desrt> one bit of advice: don't over-do it...
[07:39] <desrt> ie: after you eat one, you might feel that nothing is happening, so you need to have a few more... don't do that.  it takes a bit of time :)
[07:39] <pitti> I won't, you know me
[07:39] <pitti> I'm addicted to work and sport, but that's pretty much it
[07:40] <desrt> (i mean, unless you want to get positively silly... which might also be fun... i kinda wish i was going to be there now, in fact) :)
[07:40] <pitti> yeah, would have been really close from Cologne
[07:40] <desrt> will be in berlin the weekend following for the wedding of an old friend ...
[07:42] <hikiko> popey, ping :)
[07:42] <hikiko> (+good morning!)
[07:48] <popey> hikiko: hi
[07:49] <hikiko> hi popey
[07:49] <hikiko> I was wondering if you find a solution to this problem:
[07:50] <hikiko> https://askubuntu.com/questions/787258/internal-server-error-when-retrieving-files-from-the-archive-in-lxd
[07:50] <hikiko> found*
[07:54] <popey> not had the issue recently
[07:55] <popey> sorry
[07:55] <hikiko> ok, thanks popey
[07:57] <Trevinho> morning
[08:04] <Laney> moin!
[08:05] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:07] <pitti> hey Laney, hey seb128!
[08:08] <seb128> lut pitti, wie gehts?
[08:09] <pitti> gut, danke!
[08:09] <pitti> a bit tired, shouldn't have worked until 1, but I'll cope :)
[08:09] <pitti> when I say "Britney kept me up for so long", that sounds a lot more exciting that it actually was :-P
[08:10] <seb128> haha
[08:11] <Laney> hey seb128 and pitti!
[08:12] <Laney> I am food for mosquito
[08:12] <Laney> my hand is big
[08:13] <seb128> :-(
[08:13] <seb128> got bitten at debconf?
[08:14] <Laney> nope
[08:14] <Laney> at the allotment
[08:14] <Laney> that place is dangerous
[08:15] <pitti> is it so damp there?
[08:17] <Laney> hmmmm
[08:17] <Laney> what do they like to hang around?
[08:17] <Laney> there's a lot of vegetation
[08:17] <seb128> water?
[08:18] <Laney> and these 1m³ water things
[08:18] <Laney> not particularly near where I was, but maybe they roam looking for something tasty
[08:19] <seb128> internet says they like beer
[08:19] <seb128> stop drinking at the allotment!
[08:19] <seb128> ;-)
[08:21] <pitti> I have six beer traps in our garden against the snails, but they don't seem to attract mosquitos
[08:22] <seb128> yeah, that page was more saying that they seem to be prefer to bite beer drinkers
[08:22] <Laney> O_O
[08:23] <seb128> like if a few people are at the same place the mosquitos are more likely to go for those who had a few beers
[08:23] <davmor2> Laney: switch to cider you'll be fine
[08:23] <pitti> seb128: ah, they might like the breath :)
[08:25] <Laney> long clothes only there from now on :P
[09:05] <andyrock> morning
[09:13] <Sweet5hark> willcooke: en, es, pt, de, fr, it, ru, pt_BR libreoffice snap build finished, its 348MB.
[09:13] <Sweet5hark> havent played with it yet.
[09:15] <seb128> hey andyrock Sweet5hark
[09:16] <seb128> Sweet5hark, how big was the no-l10n one?
[09:16] <Sweet5hark> seb128: 289MB IIRC
[09:16] <seb128> k, 348 seems reasonable
[09:16] <seb128> good work!
[09:22] <willcooke> Sweet5hark, \m/  thanks
[09:22] <willcooke> Sweet5hark, can you upload today do you think?
[09:22] <willcooke> hey andyrock
[09:22] <Sweet5hark> willcooke: yes
[09:23] <willcooke> Sweet5hark, double metal hands!
[09:56]  * Laney eyes yakkety
[09:57] <Laney> is compiz busted?
[09:57] <Laney> ...in vms?
[09:58] <willcooke> Laney, are you running proposed?
[10:00] <Laney> nope
[10:01] <Laney> but there isn't a compiz there
[10:01] <willcooke> hrmm
[10:01] <willcooke> then I don't know.  hikiko ^
[10:01] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1599900
[10:08] <hikiko> hey
[10:08] <Laney> roh
[10:09] <Laney> pitti: ddebs.u.c hasn't updated since 05/07, is that known?
[10:09] <hikiko> isn't it the bug that was caused by the broken daily build packages willcooke ?
[10:09] <willcooke> hikiko, oh, I thought that was only for proposed?  But yeah, it sounds like the same thing right?
[10:10] <hikiko> yes, I think it was caused because some compiz files were missing
[10:10] <Laney> is there a fix?
[10:10] <pitti> Laney: hm, I was working on it last week and recovered some stuff, but I re-enabled the cronjob on Monday, so "not known"
[10:10] <pitti> and it's actually running (since 1 am today, so quite long)
[10:10] <Laney> pitti: 'k, I saw something about a private PPA broke it or something
[10:10] <Laney> is it going to finish?
[10:11] <pitti> Laney: I think cjwatson fixed that the other day
[10:11] <hikiko> Laney, no, compiz crashed after an upgrade, then next upgrade fixed the issue: half of the lowgfx files weren't in the package in that daily build that's why
[10:11] <pitti> Laney: not sure, I'll give it another few hours and kill it this afternoon
[10:11] <hikiko> now the package is complete, at least I don't have that issue anymore
[10:12] <hikiko> Laney, I think Trevinho could help more
[10:12] <pitti> Laney: actually, I'll kill it right now; no point if the previous few runs didn't update indexes
[10:12]  * pitti runs in foreground
[10:12] <Laney> pitti: ack
[10:13] <Laney> pitti: It'd be nice if you could make it put the log file somewhere, assuming it writes useful things
[10:13] <Laney> hikiko: you mean the packaging is busted and that's not yet fixed?
[10:13] <pitti> I get failures via cron maill, but I can add some logging, yes
[10:13] <pitti> it normally runs with --quiet via cron
[10:13] <Laney> pitti: > ~/public_html/current.log
[10:13] <hikiko> Laney, I think the package was busted and was fixed
[10:14]  * Laney checks ci train
[10:14] <hikiko> but Trevinho knows better about the package
[10:14] <Laney> nein
[13:32] <dbarth> seb128: hello
[13:32] <dbarth> seb128: we have a silo full of webbrowser-app/container SRU fixes
[13:32] <dbarth> (the OA one has a problem however)
[13:32] <dbarth> just to let you know
[13:35] <seb128> dbarth, hey, oh, good! are you trying to aim for lts .1? you might be a bit short for that
[13:36] <dbarth> seb128: yeah .1, but tell me
[13:36] <dbarth> but they are are if there is still time
[13:37] <seb128> I can't properly parse that
[13:37] <dbarth> seb128: that's silo 051, at https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1650
[13:37] <seb128> but I'm not in the team dealing with SRU or .1
[13:37] <seb128> but .1 is next week and things need to spend a week in proposed and there is the iso testing
[13:37] <dbarth> ah
[13:37] <seb128> so looks tight to me
[13:37] <seb128> check with #ubuntu-release I guess
[13:38] <dbarth> but so do i still need to subscribe the release team, or do they get a notification from the ci system now?
[13:38] <dbarth> hmm, ok; i'ĺl check there; like at the good old time ;)
[14:34] <Laney> no Trevinho today?
[14:34] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah sure...
[14:35]  * Laney eyes Stealtinho
[14:35] <Trevinho> Laney: I morning'ed few minutes before you did :)
[14:35] <Laney> you got highlighted many hours ago
[14:35] <Laney> any clue about compiz in yakkety?
[14:36] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1599900
[14:38] <Laney> biab
[14:39] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, I noticed that but I was working in u8 stuff...
[14:39] <Trevinho> anyway
[14:40] <seb128> channel is quiet nowadays!
[14:43] <seb128> Trevinho, hikiko said there was a packaging error in yakkety and you had a fix?
[14:43] <Trevinho> seb128: my yakkety wm worked, but I didn't check that much... Let me finish a thing and I'll check that again
[14:44] <seb128> k
[15:43] <Trevinho> Laney, seb128: is that bug somewhat reproducible in VMs or where? Is there a pattern for that
[15:44] <Trevinho> ?
[15:44] <seb128> it's reproducible in VMs it seems
[15:44] <seb128> m_deslaur had it the other day
[15:44] <seb128> seems it only does it with the lowgfx profile
[15:45] <seb128> if the ubuntu profile is forced it works
[15:45] <seb128> on yakkety
[15:45] <Trevinho> mhmh
[15:45] <seb128> it's 3 people reporting the issue here now, so it does look like it's any yakkety install
[15:48] <Trevinho> seb128: mh, ok... installing a new daily should cause that issue too?
[15:49] <Trevinho> seb128: or, should I downgrade and...then upgrade?
[15:53] <seb128> I didn't try daily so I don't know
[15:53] <seb128> I guess you could try to start from xenial and just upgrade unity/compiz
[15:54] <Trevinho> my VM worked though... but I upgraded from silo. And I had acceleration there
[15:54] <Trevinho> but when forcing low_gfx it was working anyway
[15:56] <seb128> sorry but I don't know how other tries, maybe Laney or mdeslaur can help you
[15:56] <seb128> going for some exercice here
[15:56] <seb128> bbiab
[16:30] <Laney> back
[16:30] <Laney> Trevinho: I just boot yakkety in virt-manager
[16:30] <Trevinho> Laney: mh, latest daily?
[16:30] <Laney> yes
[16:30] <Laney> zsynced it today
[16:30] <Trevinho> Laney: so, no need to upgrade from something, right?
[16:31] <Laney> it did work in the live cd though I think
[16:31] <Laney> although I got an apport report there, compiz still came up
[16:31] <Laney> after installing it doesn't work at all
[16:31] <Laney> fresh install
[16:31] <Laney> [and then after you install in this environment you will be able to add the 3.20 ppa and reproduce my nautilus bug too :)]
[16:31] <Laney> [muhahaha]
[16:32] <Laney> ximion is stalking my github account!
[16:32] <ximion> Laney: hey :) - I lost you at the crab tank ^^
[16:32] <Laney> yeah
[16:33] <Laney> I looked for you
[16:33] <ximion> I hope you had a safe and less exhausting trip home :)
[16:33] <Laney> and the next morning too, saw juliank
[16:33] <Laney> oh well
[16:33] <Laney> it was straightforward, although I had to wait in london for ages
[16:33] <ximion> oh, wow - well, I was there but didn't find you
[16:33] <Laney> because the trains didn't start for 2 hours or so
[16:34] <ximion> by running, I reached the first train and didn't have to wait one more hour at the airport :)
[16:34] <ximion> meh
[16:34] <Laney> nice
[16:39] <ximion> Laney: btw, the patches look good ^^ - you might want to take a look at https://github.com/iainlane/appstream-generator/commit/8f6043ebdceb42ff3286e3c75baf37b7bf41376d#diff-48d56bbd66b466a8c4f37abaae1fec96L58 though, that would break at Debian unless we also switch to xz soon
[16:39] <Laney> it needs to try more things
[16:39] <Laney> not proposed yet because the environment isn't set up properly
[16:40] <Laney> so can't really do an end to end test
[16:40] <ximion> but I just quickly simmed through the things, so no review done yet ^^
[16:40] <Laney> that http/ftp stuff sucks
[16:40] <Laney> maybe it can be done better
[16:40] <Laney> no hangs with it like this though
[16:40] <ximion> there are other libraries which do this stuff, but the curl lib is the most advanced one so far
[16:41] <ximion> but I understand why the standard library maintainers want to throw it out as soon as possible :P
[16:44] <ximion> Laney: https://github.com/ikod/dlang-requests is better, but it doesn't support the CAInfo feature yet
[16:46] <Laney> system ("curl...")
[16:47] <ximion> well.... :D
[16:48] <Laney> :>
[16:49] <ximion> spawning stuff has sane API ^^ https://dlang.org/phobos/std_process.html
[16:50] <ximion> except for stuff like browse(), which I wouldn't have defined or named openPath() and have it open any path with the default app :P
[17:24] <Laney> hmm
[17:24] <Laney> is xdg autostart just broken?
[17:24]  * Laney gets confused
[17:28] <Laney> HMMMMMMMMMMMM
[17:29] <Trevinho> Laney: mh, well... So I'm getting the crash too, but the weird thing is that... maybe it crash on first start... as things run at the end
[17:29] <Laney> did you install?
[17:30] <n0de01> Hi! I'm trying to install eclipse through umake (sudo umake ide eclipse). However I get eclipse as an invalid choice (umake ide: error: argument framework: invalid choice: 'eclipse' (choose from 'lighttable', 'visual-studio-code') Could somebody please help me with this error ?)
[17:34] <Laney> night
[17:36] <Trevinho> Laney: nope, but it happens also when launching the daily
[17:37] <n0de01> Seems to be a bug.  Launchpad bug 1591294 in ubuntu-make (Ubuntu) ""umake ide eclipse" returns "invalid choice" despite what manpage says" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1591294.
[17:59] <Trevinho> seb128: you here?
[18:10] <willcooke> night all, off tomorrow, back friday
[19:05] <seb128> Trevinho, sorry, was around but on my way to dinner, better to just ask your question so when I walk by I might be able to reply even if I don't want to stop to start a discussion
[19:28] <Trevinho> seb128: since there are fixes for that crashes that needs to resubmit a compiz build... What's the way to do that for the SRU?
[20:10] <seb128> Trevinho, unsure, ask on #ubuntu-ci-eng, I think you can re-iterate/force a rebuild&landing which it's in proposed
[20:11] <seb128> but I would probably just force merge the current silo
[20:11] <seb128> then do a new landing with the followup bugfixes