[00:03] <diddledan> related: https://twitter.com/EverySimpsons/status/753016095787790336
[00:31] <diddledan> wow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOyfZex7B3E
[00:41] <daftykins> mac owner :(
[00:41] <daftykins> ;)
[00:48] <diddledan> time for bed
[00:48] <daftykins> \o
[02:36]  * daftykins yawns
[03:06] <mappps> hi
[03:06] <mappps> watching all star game daftykins ?
[03:37] <ball> popey: Are you asleep?
[03:38] <mapps> id guess he is
[03:38] <mapps> 5am in the uk
[03:39]  * ball nods
[03:39] <ball> That's about when I get up usually though.
[03:39] <ball> ...not that I'm /always/ on IRC when I eat my breakfast.
[03:40] <ball> Wait, isn't it 3:40 am?
[03:40] <ball> Ah no, 04:40.
[03:40] <ball> ...03:40 GMT.
[03:41] <mapps> ya
[03:41] <mapps> maybe 2hrs or so and hell be up
[03:42] <ball> Hopefully I'll be asleep then. ;-)
[03:43] <mapps> might try installing ubuntu touch on my nexus7
[03:43] <mapps> 5am is early to get up
[03:44] <ball> I think my Nexus 7 is a paperweight.
[03:44] <ball> Mind you, it's months since I even powered the thing up.
[03:45] <mapps> haha broken?
[03:45]  * ball nods
[03:45] <mapps> i dont use mine atm, i use my ipad or lenovo
[03:45] <ball> I think it's the flash memory.
[03:45] <mapps> i found crome so slow on it too, so figured id try ubuntu
[03:45] <ball> I miss it though. It was a great little tablet for Android.
[03:47] <mapps> you didn find it slow for chrome
[03:48] <mapps> i used it mainly for watching vids on train or work
[03:48] <mapps> why don you replace the memory
[03:48] <ball> mapps: I didn't think they were repairable.
[03:48] <ball> ...aren't they glued together?
[03:49] <mapps> oh
[03:50] <mapps> i thought youd be able to jus take it apart and replace
[03:51] <mapps> https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/108068/Changing+of+flash+memory
[03:51] <mapps> yea doesnt look easy
[03:51] <ball> I think they're supposed to be disposeable. I just can't bring myself to buy another.
[03:51] <mapps> ah hat sucks i hae throwing stuff out
[03:52] <ball> If I had the money I'd be more likely to buy a laptop.
[03:52] <ball> Can't really justify the expense though.
[03:56] <mapps> ah
[03:56] <mapps> i use my lenovo everyhwhere, got a carry case for it ;]
[03:56] <mapps> lenvo tablet that is
[03:57] <ball> I just bought a TS140 for the office. Not exactly portable though ;-)
[03:59] <mapps> lenovo server?
[03:59] <mapps> you dont have a laptop atm?]
[04:00] <mapps> said youd buy one if you could...surely you have one
[04:00] <mapps> i have 2, 3 tables, 2 phones.geek ehl;]
[04:01] <ball> I don't own a laptop.
[04:03] <ball> Years ago I had a Mac DuoBook 2300c and I think before that a sort-of-Pentium that was really a 32-bit machine with most of the I/O hanging off ISA bus.
[04:03] <ball> ...that was a good machine for its time.
[04:03] <ball> Oh, and I had a couple of iBooks, including one that I ran Yellow Dog Linux on.
[04:05] <mapps> you ggot a desktop?
[04:05] <mapps> surely ?
[04:08] <ball> Yes, sort of. I need to buy an SSD for it.
[04:08] <ball> ...or put a couple of 2.5" disks in there.
[04:10] <mapps> ah
[04:10] <mapps> what ou on now then
[04:12] <ball> A combination of my wife's Mac mini, my daughter's Ubuntu box and a BSD account in Michigan that I've had since 1997.
[04:13] <ball> ...though we've changed platform on that Michigan box, from SPARC to amd64, iirc.
[04:13] <mapps> ah cool
[04:13] <mapps> i cant imagine no laptop or desktop, id rather have an old p4 than nothing
[04:13] <mapps> cant beieve some people ony have a phone and use that fr everything
[04:14] <ball> I have a Pentium 4 at the office. ;-)
[04:14] <ball> 2.5 GHz single-core, 2G RAM, 40G disk.
[04:14] <ball> ...mostly works for me, though it sucks at video.
[04:14] <ball> Fortunately I don't use it for that.
[04:15] <ball> It's mostly an RDP client.
[04:15] <ball> ...and runs some network tools.
[04:16] <mapps> ya
[04:16] <mapps> :)7
[04:16] <mapps> whats i t run
[04:20] <ball> NetBSD/i386 7.0.1
[04:27] <ball> mapps: ...or did you mean the tools?
[04:28] <mapps> i neant is ya
[04:28] <mapps> you watch mr robot
[04:31] <ball> No, I don't watch much television.
[04:32] <mapps> oh
 mapps: btw, do you remember the name of that ubuntu movie player people used to keep telling me to try
[04:39] <mapps> any idea what hes thinking of
 it had a K like KDE but not kde
[04:43] <ball> kdenlive?
[04:45] <ball> kvlc? :-)
[05:02] <ball> kgiveup
[05:03] <mapps> heh
[06:51] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:17] <corenominal> morning :)
[07:57] <dwatkins> allo allo
[08:01] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:07] <foobarry> after much umming and awwing I bought a metal detector yesterday
[08:17] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 foobarry
[08:17] <davmor2> foobarry: you have too much time on your hands that's your problem ;)
[08:18] <foobarry> should have just bought it quickly you mean?
[08:18] <davmor2> MooDoo: morning me owld mucka 'ow in blazes am ya
[08:18] <foobarry> i don't like spending money on myself :S
[08:18] <foobarry> even though it was funded purely from amazon vouchers
[08:25] <MooDoo> davmor2: feeling pretty crappy today to be honest, not sure if i'm just tired or coming down with something
[08:25] <zmoylan-pi> well, anything valuable you find belongs to the queen so it's not all spending money on yourself :-)
[08:26] <davmor2> MooDoo: :( well pull yourself together man or we'll have to start calling you a southerner ;)
[08:26] <foobarry> only old stuf
[08:26] <foobarry> stuf less than 250 years belongs to me , and the landowner, depending on the agreement
[08:28] <zmoylan-pi> and if it's found on beaches?
[08:30] <foobarry> if its "treasure" then its declared
[08:30] <foobarry> if its a gold necklace from ratners then it's yours
[08:30] <foobarry> The Treasure Act 1996 deals with the definition of treasure, along with the payment of rewards in relation to permitted metal detecting
[08:31] <zmoylan-pi> i think you dig a deeper hole for the rathers stuff :-)
[08:31] <zmoylan-pi> *ratners
[08:33] <foobarry> might popo down to southend at my learning trip
[08:33] <foobarry> shame that detecting is so restrictied in UK
[08:33] <foobarry> in the US they don't have an history i suppose. you can detect in most parks etc
[08:34] <zmoylan-pi> stops national treasures been melted down for cash
[08:34] <foobarry> more likely they will discover a hoard for excavation
[08:34] <foobarry> which often happens
[08:35] <foobarry> http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art548868-Archaeological-dig-planned-as-metal-detectorist-discovers-untouched-Bronze-Age-burial-mound
[08:35] <foobarry> etc etc
[08:42] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:46] <TwistedLucidity> Heh. "The Detectorists" was a good show.
[08:46]  * TwistedLucidity knows nothing about detectorology
[08:48] <TwistedLucidity> Attach a VR drone to the detectoriser, then you can whizz up and down the beach/field/whatever from the comfort of your own home!
[08:49] <TwistedLucidity> Do it close enough to the ground, and you could cut the grass at the same time.
[08:49] <TwistedLucidity> New for 2017 from Flymo: Remote VR lawnmower and treasure finder.
[08:50] <TwistedLucidity> *Actual treasure is not guaranteed
[08:58] <zmoylan-pi> state of the lawn afterwards neither...
[09:01] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Embrace Your Geekness Day! 😃
[09:03]  * zmoylan-pi checks to see that i'm wearing a geeky t-shirt... ancient dvd cca with source code for decrypting linux on the back...
[09:03] <foobarry> buying a metal detector is embracing my geekness
[09:03] <zmoylan-pi> *decrypting dvds on linux
[09:04] <JamesTait> deCSS.png?
[09:04] <zmoylan-pi> that's the one
[09:06] <JamesTait> Kids today don't know the things we went through just so they can watch Pokemon movies on those long-haul flights.
[09:06] <zmoylan-pi> it's the ones hammering on the cockpit door to get the next pokemon that will learn the hard way...
[09:06] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: No, repurposing the metal detector as an at-home-MRI machine is embracing your geeknees. Bonus points for doing the processing on a RasPi cluster.
[09:07] <foobarry> my new ringtone.... do doooo do doo
[09:07] <foobarry> right
[09:07] <JamesTait> Heheh.
[09:08] <zmoylan-pi> camerons theme?
[09:08] <JamesTait> That reminds me - there are a load of compositions that have sprung up from that, I need to have a listen.
[09:08] <foobarry> really cheered me up that did
[09:08] <JamesTait> "Cameron's Lament" was one, I believe.
[09:08] <foobarry> still lauighing about it
[09:08] <foobarry> better than chewbaccas mum
[09:09] <JamesTait> The press conference had an air of Roy Hodgson about it, but the little ditty at the end rescued it.
[09:10] <foobarry> i find it funny because its the sort of thing i do, but usually the walalce and gromit theme tune
[09:10] <JamesTait> Git, I'm going to be singing that all morning now.
[09:10] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.avclub.com/article/internet-has-field-day-david-camerons-sad-little-r-239453 has a selection of derivative works... :-P
[09:11] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, that's the one!
[09:11] <foobarry> been singing it for 10 years
[09:11] <foobarry> i thought the cameron tune was a happy one
[09:20] <diddledan> morning
[09:45] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: it's the end of the world as we know it, this is the end hold your breath and count to ten etc
[10:29] <davmor2> JamesTait: think this covers you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5yFCV-GuRE
[10:31] <JamesTait> SO it would seem.
[11:17] <diddledan> still waiting on my package :-(
[11:19] <TwistedLucidity> I wish my RasPi UPS would turn up 'n all.
[11:19] <diddledan> ooh new pi
[11:19] <diddledan> do you have plans for it?
[11:20] <zmoylan-pi> how big is a rasp pi ups? are you sure they didn't leave it under door mat? :-)
[11:20] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan: Old Pi B+, new UPS
[11:20] <diddledan> aah
[11:20] <diddledan> UPS. I equated that to the parcel co
[11:20] <diddledan> stupid people using a name twice
[11:21] <zmoylan-pi> i blame baden baden
[11:40] <diddledan> seagulls?!
[11:40] <diddledan> I'm 60 miles from the nearest sea
[11:41] <TwistedLucidity> They scavenge off anything. Often seen around landfills
[11:43] <zmoylan-pi> how far from nearest river as some will stay near water that way
[11:43] <diddledan> there's a canal the other side of town somewhere I think
[11:43] <diddledan> other than that about 4 miles
[11:44] <diddledan> maybe a bit more
[11:44] <diddledan> the test river rises near basingstoke
[11:45] <diddledan> https://goo.gl/maps/rMewtLf1PoS2
[11:46] <diddledan> the marker should be on roughly the source of the test
[11:46] <diddledan> the test is the one that enters the sea at southampton
[11:49] <diddledan> bigcalm: lol
[11:49] <diddledan> I love amazon's box choices
[11:50] <TwistedLucidity> When does the Test river become the Release river?
[11:50] <diddledan> when it gets good enough grades?
[11:51] <zmoylan-pi> after it bypasses google hq?
[12:13] <diddledan> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36780959/gta-5-pride-modification-aims-to-honour-orlando-attack-victims
[13:28] <ball> Mornin'
[13:28] <diddledan> balls
[13:28] <diddledan> it's 'noon
[13:28] <diddledan> :-p
[13:29] <ball> diddledan: It's always mornin' somewhere. ;-)
[13:29] <diddledan> it's always morning in Universal Greeting Time
[13:33] <ball> It's 08:33 here and I'm thinking of going to the garage across the road in search of a fancy coffee.
[13:34] <diddledan> fancy coffee ftw
[13:34] <ball> ...looks dark and foreboding out there though. Might get struck by lightning.
[13:34] <diddledan> :-o
[13:46] <diddledan> https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/microsoft-consumer-services/skype/72799/microsoft-bringing-skype-linux-chromebook-chrome-web-browser
[13:52] <diddledan> downloads are at https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
[14:09] <TwistedLucidity> Sooo...only for ChromeOS? No actual *real* GNU/Linuv love? That was the big announcement we're supposed to get excited over?
[14:10] <TwistedLucidity> Ah "Linux, Chromebook". OK then
[14:10] <diddledan> you misread
[14:10]  * TwistedLucidity gets excited
[14:10] <TwistedLucidity> Actually, not really excited. Skype is just a means to an end, I only really use it to speak with my parents
[14:11] <TwistedLucidity> And the client I'm using now (no idea of version) does text, audio & video well enough.
[14:12] <ball> Skype is horrid in my experience. One of the few things it has going for it is that it's cross-platform.
[14:12] <TwistedLucidity> I'd rather use Jitsi, but it seems to struggle with my parents' poor internet
[16:23] <svea____> Guess what this is? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Pln8MzJ5/irccloudcapture-521740221.jpg nsfw
[16:24] <svea____> Oops wrong place please ignore and wipe from logs
[16:25] <czajkowski> cant be wipped
[16:25] <svea____> Crud
[16:25] <svea____> Can I destroy the link it leads to by somehow wiping from irccloud?
[16:26] <ball> Was it a question about goats?
[16:27] <czajkowski> svea____: all Ubuntu channels are automatically logged - why not remove the image
[16:28] <svea____> I wish I knew how
[17:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[18:17] <davmor2> Seeker`: hi
[18:18] <davmor2> meh Seeker` sorry was for Seb but he went :)
[18:20] <mappps> hi akkll
[19:50] <ali1234> http://twitchls.com/previouslyrecorded_live streaming pokemon go - this is amazing
[20:06] <Azelphur> ali1234: is something amazing gonna happen?
[20:06] <ali1234> technical difficulties probably
[20:06] <ali1234> or they might get mugged
[20:06] <Azelphur> lol
[20:07] <zmoylan-pi> are we betting on the horrible things that could happen to them? :-P
[20:07] <Azelphur> ali1234: I've been playing it with my gf, great fun, me and her own every gym in Margate
[20:12] <ali1234> i installed it today but i didn't try actually playing it yet
[20:12] <ali1234> seems like a lot of effort
[20:12] <daftykins> wussat?
[20:12] <ali1234> poke mango
[20:12] <zmoylan-pi> it's not effort it's exercise... :-)
[20:13] <zmoylan-pi> granted it's in the great outdoor which most geeks nerds have a natural aversion to... :-)
[20:39] <zmoylan-pi> it would explain that i saw a lot more young folk out walking glued to their screens on car free cycle lane / foot path near here...
[20:39] <daftykins> :)
[20:40] <daftykins> suffice to say, there'll be more blood spilled and idiots Darwin awarded before the month is through
[20:41] <zmoylan-pi> it'll be like blackberry never went away... :-P
[20:45] <zmoylan-pi> now they just need to make a pac man version for the kids of the 80s :-D
[20:45] <daftykins> did they have a rep on their inception for driving people to self injury?
[20:46] <zmoylan-pi> when they first appeared around dublin i must have stopped a dozen people gazing at them from stepping onto road at traffic lights without looking.  then i stopped bothering.  if they wanted to be that dumb, who was i to stop them?
[20:52] <daftykins> too right
[20:57] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/EwgYOSI.jpg do these caps look blown? they've peaked up in the centre (not the middle one of the 3 circled)
[20:57] <ali1234> yes
[20:57] <daftykins> ty sir
[20:58] <daftykins> iffy reliability on this clients' old core 2 duo machine, only POSTs sometimes
[20:58] <ali1234> ATWY caps are known to be poor quality too
[20:58] <daftykins> mmm, it is a pretty low end board
[20:59] <daftykins> Asus P5KPL-AM SE
[20:59] <ali1234> "TK stands for Terrible Kapacitors"
[20:59] <daftykins> still, survived 7 years!
[20:59] <ali1234> http://www.audunmelbye.no/2012/05/17/motherboard-repair/
[21:01] <daftykins> :D
[21:01] <tabland> Hi guys, just testing my nickserv
[21:01] <daftykins> it'd be so useful if i could solder right about now
[21:01] <daftykins> tabland: #freenode is handy for that ;)
[21:01] <tabland> thanks
[21:01] <ali1234> ship it to me, i'll do it for £50
[21:01] <ali1234> including caps
[21:01] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure your local hackerspace teaches soldering daftykins
[21:02] <daftykins> haha, i bet there's no such thing
[21:02] <ali1234> soldering is the easy part tbh. getting the old caps out without damaging the board is the hard bit
[21:02] <Myrtti> we've got a cheapie amp that needs at least a cap replacement
[21:02] <Myrtti> at least.
[21:03] <Myrtti> it's got a hum that's super annoying, but it also makes a ticking noise
[21:03] <daftykins> Myrtti: is that on the list of "things hubby hasn't got around to" :D
[21:03] <zmoylan-pi> https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/List_of_Hacker_Spaces
[21:03] <Myrtti> daftykins: and research too http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2UIUVY41HEEKU
[21:04] <daftykins> funky!
[21:05] <daftykins> i'd kinda like a higher end hifi for my bedroom, the little JVC micro component system i have (still with minidisc!) sounds rubbish playing back things i know
[21:05] <Myrtti> we had to unplug it because we kept thinking we've got a deathwatch beetle in the loft. Turns out the amp outputted a knocking sound to the JBL's on our wardrobes
[21:05] <zmoylan-pi> someone other than sony made minidisc??
[21:05] <Myrtti> drove me nuts for months
[21:06] <daftykins> hells yeah, MD was ace \o/
[21:06] <daftykins> i had a couple of portable players back in the day :)
[21:06] <zmoylan-pi> i always wanted a minidisc at the time but couldn't justify the expense
[21:07] <daftykins> Myrtti: i too am quite sensitive to noises, the xbox360 of mine (not that it is used much anymore) power supply emits a high pitched whine when simply plugged in - i can also hear the 2.5" laptop hard disk plugged into my xbox one spinning when the console is also off :/
[21:07] <Myrtti> yeah, it's really annoying
[21:08] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: i probably paid £230 odd for those players back then, had a Sharp branded one also - in fact this very one! http://www.minidisc.org/images/sharp_mdmt877.jpg
[21:08] <daftykins> i seem to have a knack for memorising model numbers
[21:09] <zmoylan-pi> then ones i was looking at used a single aa battery for a ridiculous amount of time considering what it was doing
[21:09] <daftykins> indeed! they coped quite well with being thrown around with my cycling too, i think they had a decent chunk of DRAM as a buffer
[21:09] <zmoylan-pi> in the end mp3s came along and i got a cheap cd player that read discs stuffed with mp3s
[21:10] <zmoylan-pi> 10 cds worth on one cd
[21:10] <daftykins> aaah that rings a bell
[21:10] <daftykins> :)
[21:10] <daftykins> ooh you've reminded me, i picked up the 5 CD set from the clients' which is decidedly less scratched than his first one
[21:10] <zmoylan-pi> ripping cds on amd-k62.  an overnight job to rip one cd...
[21:10] <daftykins> so it's back on the ripping job for me
[21:10] <daftykins> ouch!
[21:11] <daftykins> that sounds more optical based than encode based o0
[21:11] <zmoylan-pi> it was a very slow pc with just 32mb of ram. we bought them super cheap
[21:13] <zmoylan-pi> some of the sharpest most jagged pc cases i ever had the misfortune to handle
[21:14] <diddledan> daftykins: up and running!
[21:14] <daftykins> diddledan: :D
[21:14] <daftykins> diddledan: how's she feel?
[21:14] <diddledan> I still need to copy my 'dows drive onto the superspeed ssd but it's fairly snappy as is
[21:14] <diddledan> "seems faster"
[21:16] <daftykins> you should just install from the anniversary media when it comes out august 2nd
[21:16] <daftykins> so you just booted the existing install? :P there's a recipe for disaster :D
[21:16] <diddledan> I did :-p
[21:17] <daftykins> lawl
[21:20] <diddledan> I need to take half a day to route my power cables in my pc properly
[21:20] <diddledan> as is I just shoved a shedload of cable-ties at it
[21:20] <zmoylan-pi> bring bandaid and tcp
[21:21] <daftykins> heh
[21:21] <diddledan> the main atx and cpu power I think I can hide behind the board professional-like
[21:22] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lhv5x4gx8fix535/7.jpg?dl=0
[21:22] <daftykins> i did mine nice 'n' tidy ;D
[21:22]  * diddledan tears-up at the beauty
[21:23] <zmoylan-pi> fancy
[21:23] <daftykins> you're too kind!
[21:23] <daftykins> that's the honkin' great new nvidia 1070 too
[21:23] <zmoylan-pi> bonus points for resisting the urge to have blue leds or lite up cables everywhere :-)
[21:23] <diddledan> :-o
[21:23] <diddledan> no fur
[21:25] <daftykins> you say that but 2 weeks in i did vacuum some Mischief from the front intakes behind the door ;)
[21:26] <daftykins> hehe, yeah maybe in my youth but i don't like any of that daftness now
[21:26] <daftykins> in fairness the mobo does have silly red LEDs that swoosh around, but it's all firmly disabled
[21:26] <diddledan> my mobo has leds around the audio circuitry
[21:26] <zmoylan-pi> red leds... bad but endurable.  blue are just annoying though
[21:26] <diddledan> orange ones!
[21:26] <daftykins> ah bless, with all this old core 2 junk i can finally upgrade my file server from 4GB RAM to 8GB
[21:27] <diddledan> \o/
[21:27] <daftykins> or i could run it with 4GB DDR3 instead of 2, as it's one of those funky DDR2 and 3 hybrid boards!
[21:27] <daftykins> sadly only one at once, of course
[21:29] <diddledan> I'm more happy than I thought I would be about being back on an intel cpu - I wonder why that gives me warm fuzzies?
[21:29] <diddledan> intel ftw?
[21:30] <daftykins> evil practices in the past, but things work :)
[21:49] <zmoylan-pi> less evil than nvidia...
[21:56] <daftykins> really? but intel did all that anti competitive marketing funds stuff
[22:49] <zmoylan-pi> but linus cussed out nvidia :-)
[22:50] <daftykins> weeeeell, Linux support is what it is :P
[22:50] <daftykins> FOSS folk can have their underwear twisted whichever way they like, i agree it's a shame, but development time for 1 or 2% of your market? it's just business sense
[23:00] <ali1234> nvidia puts a huge amount of development into linux
[23:00] <ali1234> they just don't open source most of it
[23:01] <ali1234> in the end though, it works far better than anything else
[23:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[23:18] <daftykins> indeedy, nvidia'd be my choice if i ran a Loonix