[06:40] Maaz: tell Kilos you're late! :-P [06:40] superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [06:43] morning everyone [06:44] sorry superfly im here now [06:44] haha [06:44] Just teasing [06:44] just some news [06:44] visa has been approved [06:44] yay!! [06:44] at last [06:45] i ping pro to make the announcement when he was online as well but he got slack [06:45] most likely thought i had work for him [06:46] very cold here, water all iced up [06:46] sigh [06:46] all good there superfly ? [06:47] Ya, just got to work. First day back. [06:47] whew [06:48] hi thatgraemeguy paddatrapper inetpro tumbleweed and other lurkers [06:48] like theblazehen [06:48] hi Kilos [06:48] goeie more Kilos [06:49] oh and hi to each one of the others [06:49] sien jy die nuus inetpro [06:49] mornings [06:52] #FreeFalklands [06:52] #FreeIreland [06:52] #FreePalestine [06:52] #FreeBeer [06:52] #FreeSoftware [06:52] #FreeAllTheThings [06:52] superfly: LOL [06:52] lol [06:53] hi zipper [06:53] Kilos: Hello [06:53] Yo! Are you guys translating? [06:53] I haven't spoken to the lady in a long time [06:54] i have no idea zipper been busy here [06:54] hmmmm everyone seems to be :) [06:55] yeah [06:56] i got sort sheep [06:59] morning all [07:08] test [07:08] hmm [07:08] Anyone know how to get in to a host that's having issues with kdbus? [07:08] Irc client is running inside a container inside it [07:09] theblazehen: and you don't have ssh access? [07:09] Can't ssh, and lxc list doesn't show anything [07:09] ah [07:09] Had ssh until I ran `systemctl status` [07:10] When I straced virt-manager I got /sys/fs/kdbus/0-system/bus no such file or direcotry [07:10] Or similar [07:10] It does respond to ping [07:11] High latency though [07:11] Nevermind, latency is net connection [07:11] Was trying to get rid of frozen VMs, kill -9'd the qemu processes. Before that virt-manager wouldn't let me in [07:12] Processes in containers work. Huh [07:13] Kilos: nuus? [07:14] Old ssh connections also don't work [07:19] Hey Kilos [08:22] Mornings [08:34] hi theblazehen [08:34] Hi andrewlsd [08:35] `lxc exec container -- /bin/sh` [08:36] aah, you were using libvirt's interface to lxc [08:36] Ahoy ZA! [08:36] ahoy pavlushka [08:36] Nope, lxc runs on host [08:36] Could access containers themselves, but nothing on host [08:36] lxd* [08:37] ahoy andrewlsd theblazehen Kilos inetpro chesedo [08:37] hmm... [08:39] o/ [08:39] hi pavlushka [08:39] The more I use Slack, the more I like Quassel+IRC [08:40] ha ha [08:40] resource requirements for proper compiled applications seem much lower than a browser (chromium) electron-based web-app wrapper. [08:40] and with Quassel I can connect via app, web, or (probably) even CLi [08:41] and Slack integrations are almost IRC bots. [09:31] * andrewlsd goes back to lurk / work [09:43] ai! inetpro keep up man [09:57] good morning [09:58] hi magespawn you just made the morning [10:00] oh hi pavlushka [10:13] that is what life is all about, timing [10:15] Kilos: how far back do you want me to read? [10:16] I'm old, you guys talk too much [10:18] man, visa granted [10:18] oh ok, so what now? [10:19] ai! ek sukkel met my volk [10:19] when are you flying? [10:19] what are you waiting for? [10:19] are you at the airport yet? [10:19] lol hopefully 1 sept [10:19] ok :-) [10:20] i cant go with this flu [10:20] also have to have chest xray on the 20th [10:20] yikes, but only September? That's a long time to wait [10:20] i cant go makes them sick with a 3 month no die flu [10:21] and august coldest month there [10:21] then again, time flies... at least you now have something to look forward to [10:21] dont wanna spend all my time wrapped up in blankets [10:22] you'll get better quick, quick as well... now that you have the good news [10:22] i hope so [10:23] my bags been packet since january hehe [10:30] all good things come to those who wait [10:30] lol [11:18] hi Guest5193 why you a guest today jassen [11:18] haha [11:19] w b [11:19] hi Kilos [11:19] one has to be nice to guests [11:19] hows things [11:19] (: all good thanks [15:03] hi qwebirc72271 [15:03] welocome to ubuntu-za [15:03] welcome as well [15:04] hey Kilos, Howzit. Used to be here witha different name but now fogort my logon details to IRC channel [15:04] lol [15:05] irc-chat.freenode.net-#ubuntu-za [15:06] if you have forgotten your password the staff at #freenode can send you a mail to reset your password [15:07] Thanks, I am going to fix that but got a more pressing matter [15:07] np [15:08] Can't run Ubuntu on my 32GB drive but it runs well on my 8GB flash, When i boot up from it after install sometimes its very slow to log in or do anything or sometimes I don't get anything at all [15:08] do you need help with something? [15:08] Can't use the 8Gb anymore because I am running out of space on it for some of the software I use [15:09] yeah [15:09] what release did you install to the 32GB [15:09] 14.0.4 desktop [15:10] what isnt it doing? [15:10] after installing, it asks me to reboot then after it reboots I can't access the OS, and when I can access the OS it is veeeeerrrrrryyyyyy slow that i can't actually do anything at all [15:11] what did you use to install it with? [15:12] made the boot with Rufus [15:12] the after went throught the normal install [15:12] i dont know that [15:12] let ubuntu did the partitioning and file systems alterations [15:13] i have had installs that are slow but they normally speed up after update/upgrade [15:13] you can make an iso of your working 8G system with systemback [15:14] where is this 32GB drive [15:14] usb? [15:14] Yeah SanDisk Blaze Cruzer [15:15] not perhaps in a slow usb port? [15:15] i know my desktop has slow and faster usb ports [15:16] usb 1 and 2 i think [15:16] I connect both of them to the same port directly on the motherboard, granted its not USB3.0 but on the 8GB its normal [15:17] hmm... [15:17] maybe not a good install [15:17] clever guys will know more [15:18] So now downloading 16.04 to see whats what maybe i messed up the install or the drive is "too'' big [15:18] 32G should be fine [15:18] my 16G runs ok [15:19] its just another drive, size shouldnt be a factor [15:20] may want to check with iotop/vmstat and similar tools [15:20] Hey Sicelo, what do those tools do? [15:21] check the I/O stuff going on .. might help you identify what's slowing things down for you [15:21] anyway, if you're downloading already, maybe that will just work fine by itself. good luck ;) [15:22] I can't even log on to the machine, the download just finished an hour later.... Roodepoort is pap [15:23] not even login to console? 0.o [15:24] ai! [15:27] maybe bad mbr on the stick [15:28] Not even console, can't get an P address [15:28] IP [15:29] maybe boot from the 8GB and use that to format the 32GB [15:29] you don't need IP for that. i assume you put this USB drive in it, meaning you have physical access :) [15:30] by console i meant: Ctrl+Alt+F1, or even single user mode [15:30] if it cant boot then grub hasnt installed properly i would say [15:30] but yes, maybe a reinstall will help you quicker [15:32] qwebirc72271 make sure you format it to mbr [15:32] I can sometimes get to the grub and run diagnostics etc and can see the boot process and everything seems fine,I think reinstall is going to be the only way forward but I am going to lose some very important scripts that i have not backed up yet [15:32] on the 32G [15:33] you been saving on the slow thing [15:33] whew [15:33] qwebirc72271: < Kilos> maybe boot from the 8GB and use that to format the 32GB <=== when you're doing this, you can also copy your scripts :) [15:34] ty Sicelo [15:36] yeah save you scripts first then format with mkdosfs -F 32 -I /dev/sdbX or whatever /dev/it is [15:37] i would think it's better to use linux partitions & filesystems .. either way, when reinstalling, this step will be automated [15:37] Thanks chaps, I am installing the 14.04 again on the 8Gb. Can't install 16.04 as it needs more space than 8GB [15:38] 0.0 [15:38] ouch [15:38] didn't you say the 8GB is fine? [15:40] Sicelo wont that command get the mbr sorted [15:40] Yeah it is but the one I have keeping it safe for now and going to use this other one just to see what I can get from other stick... realised I am getting myself mixed up here so from now on the Working 8GB will be A and the 32 will be B and the new 8 will be C and the one with the scripts will be D [15:40] i use disk utility to first format to mbr and then do the install on ext4 [15:41] lol yeah good idea qwebirc72271 [15:42] lol .. so there aren't two sticks :P [15:42] no 3 [15:42] hehe [15:43] Kilos: i'm no expert either, but when you go ext4 from FAT, the partition tables will be completely rewritten, nuking anything mkdosfs will have done [15:43] The thing is I use Ubuntu for alot of data rescure sometimes to remote clients so I end up with lots of these memory sticks lying around that we somtimes ship to clients who are in trouble [15:44] that's my understanding [15:44] not the mbr [15:44] that just gets grub info added [15:45] okay. i didn't know :) [15:46] Hi everyone [15:47] hi Cryterion [15:47] Here's an interesting read http://deepdot53faojvzi.onion/2015/10/21/the-dark-web-is-on-the-rise-in-south-africa/ [15:47] heya Kilos [15:47] hi hi Cryterion [15:48] * Sicelo looks for his Tor install .. haven't used in a while now [15:48] hi Sicelo, don't believe we've met yet [15:48] mine's bottom right on taskbar [15:48] the guys met him at debconf Cryterion [15:48] i believe so, yes [15:49] Ok, kwl, work got busy, so couldn't make it to capetown myself unfortunately [15:50] i cant open that link [15:50] Kilos: using tor? [15:50] i dont even know what tor is [15:50] i tried 3 browsers [15:50] it's a tor link [15:51] *.onion [15:51] use Tor Browser for example [15:51] Kilos, duck it ;) [15:51] maaz: google tor browser [15:51] Cryterion: I'm not feeling too well [15:51] huh? [15:52] bots cant see google anymore [15:52] google changed something [15:52] maaz: search tor browser [15:52] Cryterion: I couldn't find anything that matched 'tor browser' [15:52] paddatrapper is working on it [15:52] hmmm [15:52] we must switch him to DuckDuckGo then [15:53] thats what he is doing [15:53] Kilos https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en [15:53] and also sorting the upgrading to python 3 i think [15:55] Kilos: not really the python 3 upgrade, just allowing it to run on newer distros that 12.04 [15:55] oh [15:56] well you are improving it, thats whats important [15:56] paddatrapper: i'm limping as of yesterday :p [15:56] i guess i should blame you, haha [15:57] so do you use the tor thing all the time then [15:58] me? no. haven't used it in a loooog time. i use reverse ssh proxy daily though [15:58] No, depends on what I want to do [15:58] only way to access dark web anyway [15:59] what is the dark web? [15:59] hidden internet [15:59] bad peeps or what [15:59] hidden from who? [15:59] anything and everything [15:59] oh my [15:59] hidden from everyone, all are anonymous [16:00] oh [16:00] even duckduckgo.com has a dark copy of itself [16:00] you mean everyone is hidden from everyone [16:01] Tails is actually a Debian-derived OS which routes every single packet via Tor by default :) [16:01] yes, no ip info etc, client and server do not know who each other are [16:01] Nice [16:02] whew [16:02] that can upset facebook and google a bit [16:03] they embraced it .. it's bigger than they are ;) [16:03] if you can't beat them, join them :p [16:04] wont the bouncing all over use more of my data [16:05] slightly more, but it's bouncing in isp's etc, not back and forth to you 5 times [16:05] no. i was even using it on my phone at one time .. the only penalty is speed - tor is slower than direct conections [16:06] if I ask duckduck what's my ip, I get 72.5.72.225 which is the exit node after bouncing [16:07] ok [16:07] slightly bigger packet due to the encryption layers, but yes hardly noticable [16:07] new ibids will use ddg [16:09] if I was doing something wrong atm, then I'd be identified as 2016-07-13 08:50 AM kelliefe60 kelliefe60@epsilon.xray.livefreemail.top 72.5.72.225 [United States] [16:11] * Sicelo goes afk [16:11] wow [16:12] and you can just push a button, new network circuit made on the fly [16:13] why dont they just mke a .deb file [16:13] what a business [16:14] someone will want an RPM :p [16:15] apt-get install tor [16:16] thats was easy ty [16:16] np ;) [16:17] i used aptitude though [16:17] hehe [16:18] lol [16:22] eish now it wont start with ./start-tor-browser.desktop or when i tick the run tor goodie in launcher [16:23] hmmm [16:23] hi magespawn [16:26] hi Kilos [16:39] power gone [17:14] sigh [17:14] who knows what pta power peeps do [18:10] chat later, home time [18:10] go safe [18:38] o/ Sicelo [18:38] o/ paddatrapper [18:38] bye Cryterion, magespawn [18:49] hi divansantana [18:58] you got mail superfly [19:06] hi Langjan [19:06] what broke [19:07] hehe [19:07] I see [19:07] Hi Kilos hoe gaan dit? [19:07] redelik dankie en jy? [19:07] my wallet [19:07] hahaha [19:07] goed dankie, hoekom redelik - wats fout? [19:07] griep eintlik erger [19:07] miskien is dit nie giep nie [19:08] gaan die 20ste vir bors xstrale [19:08] Ai man, dit kan nie so lank aanhou nie [19:08] nee dit moet iets anders wees [19:09] maar ek nie eintlik kwaai siek nie, net hoes en seer bors en news look heelwat [19:10] news look heelwat? [19:10] nees loop nie news look nie [19:10] hehe [19:10] hahahaha [19:10] lmga, dog net jy het 'n nuwe patent-siekte uitgevind [19:10] hahaha [19:11] ek moet gou gesong word nou, kannie siek oorgaan nie [19:11] Ja vir seker [19:11] het jy al vlugplanne? [19:12] ons kyk na 1 sept [19:12] seun sal kom uitwerk vir my wanneer hy kans kry [19:13] kaartjies is duur met ons sterk rand [19:13] wat se jou vensters vriend met die glazed hardskyf [19:14] OK klink goed, maar eers gesond word. Jy het goeie immuniteitbouers nodig na al die antibiotika [19:15] gaan more probeer egte yoghurt kry [19:15] met goggas in [19:15] Hy is baie bly, ek het Zoris-11-Lite afgelaai om vir hom te laat probeer - lyk blykbaar baie na Windoze 7 [19:15] sjoe [19:15] Jy kry by Checkers, maar probeer onversoete een kry [19:16] dis wat ek se egte [19:16] Ek wil daai Zoris op my spaar hardeskyf laai en vir hom insit om te test drive [19:17] ek ken dit nie [19:17] ek ook nie [19:17] waar het jy daarvan gehoor [19:17] maar dit lyk blykbaar soos win 7 [19:17] hi nsnzero [19:17] hi all [19:17] google [19:17] hi nsnzero [19:18] nee man mors my data [19:18] wie ek? [19:18] hi Kilos and Oom Langjan [19:18] o jy het dit by google gevind [19:18] vir wat het jy gegoogle [19:19] linux os that looks like win 7 [19:19] ai! [19:19] ja dis reg [19:20] Stuur vir my jou posadres asb ek gaan vir jou mootie stuur [19:20] nou skkam jy jou nie om van dit hier te gesels nie [19:20] ek gesels dan nou hier [19:20] sorry boss [19:21] lol [19:22] do you remember the pm thing Langjan ? [19:23] http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-linux-distro-first-time-switchers-windows-mac/ [19:23] pm thing? [19:23] privaat boodskap [19:23] private message [19:23] thats where you give email addresses etc [19:24] some peeps talk naughty there but im to old to be naughty [19:39] superfly i hadnt read it all, is the needed info in that mail? [19:40] Kilos: all I wanted to know is if anyone is doing it yet, and if not, I'll do it. [19:40] nope we were supposed to get back to maia with events info [19:41] thats the only way to get sticks [19:47] how do i get a stick ? [19:47] they can be bought individually, but canonical supplies a limitted number for official events [19:48] nice - how can i get an invite to the event ? [19:50] events are announced here or in our mailing list [19:50] have you joined yet? [19:51] nsnzero have you joined out mailing list and on LP [19:51] i am on the mailing list [19:52] ok then just watch mails [19:52] i think everyone is a bit busy for events but we should have a 16.04 release party [19:53] Kilos: noted - i will have to gate crash - i am on kubuntu [19:54] https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi8voP4m_HNAhVKB8AKHZJnDmEQFggjMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Flaunchpad.net%2F~ubuntu-za&usg=AFQjCNFQj2bgLfuGb3SFxFuhBMBQdEVP3Q&sig2=LfPLHGOlXiAT1aokszlSOg [19:54] i am also on kubuntu [19:54] didnt you hear [19:54] apartheid died years ago [19:55] go to that link and join us on launchpad [19:55] the fly and pro only use kde as well [20:05] signed up [20:06] welcome on board [20:10] Kilos: it wont verify my email when i click the link in the verification email [20:10] oh my [20:10] from launchpad? [20:14] Kilos: not to worry had to copy and paste the link in the browser - i am in - now what ? [20:14] in where? [20:14] i need to see things to know what you are doing [20:16] lol - i mean i am registered on ubuntu one [20:16] oh [20:16] have you joined the za team in launchpad [20:18] Kilos: when do i get my badge and sticker for my car ? :P [20:18] superfly: ahoi [20:18] hahaha [20:18] Finally home [20:19] paddatrapper: what did you parents say about your hair? [20:19] hi pada [20:19] you get a badge when you apply for ubuntu membership [20:19] hi paddatrapper [20:19] nsnzero: I also use KDE [20:19] hahaha paddatrapper which blue hair is you , the fat or the skinny one [20:20] superfly: after the stunned silence - laugh and post it on Facebook [20:20] see nsnzero kde rules here [20:20] hahaha [20:20] Kilos: The thinner one on the right [20:20] so we are the 3 wise men of the lot ? [20:20] must have been a shock for then [20:20] Pretty longish hair [20:20] ah now i know what you look like' [20:20] ty for those pics [20:21] It was. Hadn't told them before hand [20:21] No problem [20:21] haha shame man [20:21] Waiting for the rest to be uploaded [20:21] all those guys were who and from where [20:23]