[03:02] <qengho> So quiet.
[03:03] <sarnold> GOOD MORNING QENGHO
[03:03] <qengho> Thanks, sarnold.
[03:04] <sarnold> happy to help!
[05:06] <hikiko> hello
[06:11] <pitti> Good morning
[08:04] <Laney> hullo!
[08:06] <pitti> hey Laney!
[08:07] <pitti> Laney: could you please create a "systemd-session" PPA on https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop ?
[08:07] <pitti> Laney: I'd like to move https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ubuntu/systemd-session, in preparation for next week
[08:07] <Laney> hey pitti, how are you?
[08:07] <Laney> sure, good idea
[08:07] <pitti> Laney: quite fine, thanks! yourself?
[08:08] <pitti> I just moved https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+git/systemd-graphical-session/
[08:09] <Laney> created and copied the packages
[08:09] <Laney> I'm good!
[08:09] <Laney> we went to folk club last night, and I was percussion for the cup song which the others sang
[08:09] <Laney> this is all desrt's doing
[08:10] <pitti> cool!
[08:10] <anpok_> pitti: had to make another fix to the touchscreen detection logic in udev - I broke tablet detection last time.
[08:10] <pitti> I didn't know you play the drums
[08:11] <Laney> no drums, just cups
[08:39] <Trevinho> morning
[08:42] <desrt> Cups!
[08:43] <Laney> hi Trevinho!
[08:43] <Laney> hi desrt!
[08:43] <andyrock> hey all
[08:43] <Laney> hi andyrock!
[08:43] <Laney> !!!!
[08:47] <Trevinho> Laney: about that crash, I've the fixes (I've not really understood why it happens, but I can mute it)... Anyway I'm wondering how to deal with the fact that it might happen also in xenial .1, so should I do another SRU or update the silo version and ask sru team to review it again? Or... wait for verification and then a new sru?
[08:48] <Laney> thanks Trevinho
[08:48] <Laney> hikik_o made it sound like you already had fixed it
[08:48] <Laney> or at least knew what it was
[08:49] <Laney> if it's going to make xenial break too then you should re-upload compiz with this fix included there too
[08:49] <Laney> and probably make the SRU bug for the original issue verification-failed so nobody can accidentally release it
[08:49] <Laney> (the SRU team will fix that back when accepting the new one)
[08:50] <Trevinho> Laney: mh, I see... I'm just wondering how to deal that with ci-train...
[08:50] <Laney> you can just add a new branch and rebuild / publish one package right?
[08:53] <pitti> Laney: \o/ radiance port, nice work!
[08:54] <pitti> Laney: what kind/level of feedback do you want for this?
[08:54] <Trevinho> Laney: not sure, since it's published... Can I go back to previous stage?
[08:54] <Trevinho> pitti: hey
[08:55] <Trevinho> pitti: maybe you can give me some guidance with that too ^?
[08:55] <Laney> pitti: at this point: if anything is unusable
[08:55] <Laney> small niggles can be fixed later on
[08:55] <Laney> pitti: if you have trello you can add them on here https://trello.com/c/EXpA6lKW/8-look-into-gtk-3-20
[08:55] <Laney> Trevinho: is that https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1614 ?
[08:57] <Trevinho> Laney: yes
[08:57] <Laney> Trevinho: okay, edit that to add a new branch, then "build" and you can just check compiz there
[08:57] <pitti> Laney: I do have trello, yes; cool, thanks
[08:58] <Trevinho> Laney: fine, then SRU team has to request verification again, or that is not needed?
[08:59] <Trevinho> I mean, once they've removed it from the queue, it's enough, right?
[08:59] <Laney> It'll be like starting a new SRU
[08:59] <Trevinho> only for that package, though...
[08:59] <Laney> so it will go to the queue, be reviewed, etc
[08:59] <Laney> yes
[08:59] <Laney> is that okay?
[08:59] <Laney> you're thinking about .1?
[08:59] <Trevinho> yeah
[08:59] <Laney> ping someone to review it today
[09:00] <pitti> ping me
[09:00] <Trevinho> pitti: cool, thank you.
[09:00] <pitti> it's getting reeeally right for .1, so this needs some coordination with whoever drives .1, and fast/thorough verification
[09:01] <Laney> I think they want this low graphics stuff in there
[09:01] <Laney> but obviously unacceptable if it introduces new crashes :)
[09:01] <Trevinho> yeah, not that is somewhat dangerous, since it's something that happens once on start, but indeed not a nice thing.
[09:02] <Laney> argh
[09:02] <Laney> need to look into what happened to libvirt/yakkety
[09:03] <Laney> I have to manually systemctl start virtlogd.socket libvirtd.service
[09:03] <Laney> anyway it's not a one time thing for me after installing yakkety in a VM
[09:03] <Laney> maybe autologin or the live session manages to work around the problem
[09:04]  * Laney is just staring at the wallpaper
[09:39] <xnox> Laney, do i need to test ubiquity with 3.20 theming?
[09:39] <Laney> add the PPA
[09:40] <xnox> ack
[09:40] <xnox> boaring in a second, will do from Lisbon
[09:41] <Laney> lisbon eh
[09:42] <xnox> =)
[09:45] <Laney> you jetsetter
[10:11] <Laney> Trevinho: does https://paste.ubuntu.com/19348993/ look normal to you?
[10:14] <Trevinho> Laney: it's the same issue of the crash. I've fixed it
[10:17] <Laney> Trevinho: ok, I applied https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/ccs-gsetting-safer-update/revision/4068
[10:32] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, that's the first part.. 2nd is https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/safer-profile-for-lowgfx/+merge/300052 although, i've to fix it as that works only in new installs... I've to rename migration scripts
[10:50] <Laney> Trevinho: I think those are re-run if they get updated (mtime)
[10:50] <Laney> could be wrong though
[10:50] <Trevinho> Laney: you sure? I think it's only based on name
[10:51] <Laney> no I'm not sure
[10:51] <Laney> :(
[10:51] <Trevinho> Laney: anwyay, I wanted to clean them up in any case, so...
[10:51] <Trevinho> I've just made one from three
[10:52] <Laney> cool
[10:52] <Laney> for now I just hacked it out of the upstart job
[10:55] <Trevinho> Laney: it's all in https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/safer-profile-for-lowgfx/+merge/300052
[10:55] <Laney> i'll wait for the silo :P
[10:59] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, silo building again
[11:04] <Trevinho> Laney: should be really building in ppa now... If in the mean time you want to review the debian changes, feel free :-P
[11:25] <Trevinho> Laney: it should be built
[11:26] <Trevinho> also i'm really torn about keeping the normal resize mode or not in lowgfx profile... Also with a very low powered VM it seems to be acceptable
[11:26] <Trevinho> Fast I mean, and indeed it's nicer and more useful than the square-mode resize
[11:43]  * Laney doesn't know what the requirements are
[12:46] <Trevinho> Laney: there are no precise requirements.. A part the fact that it has to be quickest as possible
[13:31] <Laney> Trevinho: I tried silo 003 https://paste.ubuntu.com/19362486/
[13:31] <Trevinho> mh
[13:31] <Trevinho> Laney: seems fine, isn't it?
[13:31] <Laney> no
[13:33] <Trevinho> Laney: get anything in ~/.local/share/unity/migration_script.log
[13:33] <Laney> that directory doesn't exist
[13:34] <Trevinho> Laney: right... I don't remember where migration scripts are saved.. :/
[13:35] <Laney> there's a file ~/.local/share/session_migration-ubuntu which shows that they were run
[13:35] <Laney> which one is interesting?
[13:35] <Trevinho> Laney: the new one (00_remove_obsolete_plugins_in_unity_session_v1.py) has to be ran
[13:36] <Trevinho> Laney: anway... You don't get unity to run at all there, right?
[13:36] <Trevinho> Laney: what's in gsettings get org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity-lowgfx/plugins/core/ active-plugins ?
[13:37] <Laney> Trevinho: https://paste.ubuntu.com/19363026/
[13:38] <Laney> oops
[13:38] <Laney> I typoed lowgfx in that
[13:38] <Laney> https://paste.ubuntu.com/19363129/
[13:51]  * Laney goes back to looking at nautilus then
[14:35] <Laney> definitely some kind of race condition
[14:51] <Trevinho> Laney: mh, speaking of nautilus or compiz?
[14:52] <Trevinho> Laney: I've tried this in a new yakkety machine and it seems to work... mhmh
[14:55] <Laney> compiz
[14:55] <Laney> erm
[14:55] <Laney> nautilus*
[14:55] <Laney> why can you never reproduce the same issues as me?
[15:02] <Trevinho> Laney: so... You got that issue when upgrading from yakkety with old lowgfx?
[15:03] <Laney> yep
[15:03] <Trevinho> Laney: as it might happen in that case... because it failed before
[15:03] <Trevinho> I've upgraded my yakkety install before running a new user session and that was fine
[15:05] <seb128> Trevinho, try with a guest if you are unsure the profile is stock?
[15:06] <Trevinho> seb128: in stock profiles everything works
[15:06] <Trevinho> seb128: on upgrades... There might be troubles
[15:06] <seb128> Trevinho has a special "never hit bugs" box ;-)
[15:06] <Laney> hi seb128
[15:06] <Laney> night shift?
[15:06] <seb128> hey Laney
[15:07] <seb128> "night"
[15:07] <seb128> no, national holiday
[15:07] <seb128> just drove to .nl
[15:07] <Trevinho> ah, aren't you celebrating French NH?
[15:07] <seb128> and catching up on backlog, making up a bit for hours I took while I was in France
[15:08] <Laney> Trevinho: guest works
[15:08] <Trevinho> yeah, indeed...
[15:08] <seb128> Trevinho, I did provisitional celebrating ;-)
[15:08] <Laney> so
[15:08] <Laney> can the session be repaired?
[15:08]  * Trevinho shoked about the Tour things though
[15:08] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, some gsettings foo
[15:08] <Trevinho> Laney: we've (andyrock) in progress a script to self-healing such situations
[15:09] <seb128> Trevinho, I didn't understand what made they fall exactly
[15:09] <Trevinho> but not there yet... So, I can in the mean time land this that will work fine for the SRU
[15:09] <Trevinho> seb128: no idea.... people? A motorbike?
[15:13] <Trevinho> Laney: are you ok about landing that for now?
[15:16] <Laney> let me check if it fixes the crash
[15:18] <Laney> seems ok
[15:24] <Trevinho> Laney: ok so let's go with that... for the few using a yakkety install with lowgfx mode, we can always provide a script for fixing it... Which, will be done shortly
[15:25] <Laney> ok
[15:27] <Laney> please to fix MPs
[15:27] <Trevinho> Laney: then... I've ACKed https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1656 please plubish it... I'll fix the SRU one in a bit
[15:28] <Trevinho> Laney: for the SRU one, I can only rebuild compiz... Then I hope I can re-do all the SRu process only for that, right? Or the silo will need the approval for every piece again?
[15:29] <Laney> you need to top approve the merge proposals https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-003-2-publish/18/console
[15:29] <Laney> sru is compiz only, correct
[15:29] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, sorrry..  andyrock is on them now
[16:48] <Trevinho> Laney: so, I've triggered a new rebuild and andyrock approved things (there was a small issue), I guess you can publish it now https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1656
[16:49] <Trevinho> Laney: also the SRU build is fine https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1614 (you've to force the publication there I guess because of missing revision)
[16:49] <Trevinho> tomorrw (I guess) pitti could then re-review it from the SRU queue
[16:49] <Laney> you would be better off getting it uploaded today
[16:50] <Laney> huh
[16:50] <Laney> you included more changes in the SRU
[16:52] <Trevinho> Laney: which ones?
[16:52] <Laney> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/272985187/compiz_1:0.9.12.2+16.04.20160705-0ubuntu1_1:0.9.12.2+16.04.20160714-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[16:52] <Trevinho> Laney: I just added this one
[16:53] <Trevinho> Laney: that's the same of the two branches I posted, isn't it?
[16:53] <Laney> I thought the SRU would be the crash fix only
[16:53] <Laney> but in there you have also changes to the migration scripts too
[16:53] <Trevinho> Laney: these are needed for avoiding crashes
[16:53] <Trevinho> without migration scripts change, there will be the crash
[16:54] <Laney> not refactoring them
[16:54] <Trevinho> well, having three same changes in three files would cause bigger diffs and more prone to issues
[16:56] <Trevinho> also I prefer to keep to the minimum the delta with upstream, so we don't have two different codebases to worry about
[16:57] <Laney> might normally be fine, but here you are trying to get this SRU out super fast
[16:57] <Laney> some other random change to showdesktop too
[16:58] <Laney> you make the work harder for the reviewer of the SRU
[16:58]  * Laney shrugs
[16:58] <Laney> need to wait for powerpc s390x to finish
[16:58] <Trevinho> ok
[16:59]  * Trevinho back on the other machine to verify bugs
[17:05]  * Laney cries
[17:05] <Laney> I need to go out!
[17:05] <Laney> seb128: are you around for a bit to publish https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1614 ?
[17:15] <Laney> ok, it's done
[17:15]  * Laney is late for climbing
[17:19] <Trevinho> it's never late for climbing... There's always something to climb on, then... Maybe you might be arrested :)
[17:19]  * Laney cries
[17:19] <Laney> why is this so slow
[17:19] <Laney> late because I am meeting people there
[17:19] <Trevinho> Laney: ah, did you force publish?
[17:19] <Laney> it worked
[17:19] <Laney> i think
[17:19] <Trevinho> Publish failed: Unexpected upload at destination.
[17:19]  * Laney waits for queuebot
[17:20] <Laney> it's there
[17:20] <Laney> i would really appreciate it if you would help me out on my nautilus bug
[17:20] <Laney> add the 3.20 ppa in a qemu/kvm yakkety install and restart the session
[17:20] <Laney> you'll see it
[17:21] <Laney> adding a sleep 1 makes it stop
[17:21] <Laney> so: some race
[17:21] <Laney> BYEEEEEEEEEEEE
[17:51] <Trevinho> Laney: ok, I'll check it tomorrow
[20:04] <bregma> desktop people, is there a UI for setting the desktop scaling for Unity 8 in the works?