| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 11:28 |
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| tgm4883 | nacc: I can't do it | 15:44 |
| nacc | tgm4883: me neither :) | 15:45 |
| tgm4883 | I'm not sure why users think they need to hide stuff from us | 15:46 |
| tgm4883 | tell the truth, take your lashing, and move on | 15:46 |
| Bashing-om | The truth, the whole truth ...... and nothing but the truth; thank you . | 15:47 |
| tgm4883 | it's like dealing with children sometimes.... | 15:48 |
| nacc | tgm4883: yeah, basically after 15 minutes, no difference -- ask the ppa owner for support :) | 15:48 |
| ducasse | what's the state on snaps and support? are they supported in #ubuntu, or by the developer? | 15:53 |
| tgm4883 | hmm, good question | 15:53 |
| tgm4883 | ducasse: the developer I would think | 15:53 |
| ducasse | ok. what about the canonical snaps? | 15:54 |
| ducasse | :) | 15:54 |
| Bashing-om | ducasse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321161 ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2327088 shed any light ? | 15:54 |
| tgm4883 | ducasse: does canonical make snaps? | 15:54 |
| tgm4883 | snaps should "Just work"(TM) so if they don't, it seems like support should be with the developer | 15:55 |
| ducasse | tgm4883: well, they are listed as developer on some of them | 15:56 |
| ducasse | tgm4883: ufw and nextcloud, for example | 15:57 |
| tgm4883 | ducasse: we should probably define what support is. All it could likely be with any snap is "reproduce issue, figure out if issue is with package or snappy, file bug" | 15:57 |
| tgm4883 | ducasse: UFW has a snap? | 15:57 |
| tgm4883 | that... doesn't even make sense | 15:57 |
| ducasse | tgm4883: for ubuntu core, i just noticed | 15:58 |
| tgm4883 | eh, I guess so | 15:58 |
| tgm4883 | since it's just configuring iptables | 15:58 |
| nacc | tgm4883: so you can put it on the list of things not to install? :) | 17:20 |
| tgm4883 | yea pretty much | 17:20 |
| tgm4883 | It would be also interesting to see if the user is just misinformed | 17:21 |
| tgm4883 | maybe it just says it supports one version of the kernel | 17:21 |
| nacc | tgm4883: yeah, but given their response to why was "ask the devs /rof", I don't know if they know | 17:22 |
| OerHeks | Well gentlemen, we tried. | 17:24 |
| nacc | OerHeks: :) | 17:24 |
| * OerHeks is trying to upgrade 15.10-16.04 .. for 3rd day now .. too busy doing something else important | 17:29 | |
| nicomachus | OerHeks: good luck. what IRC client are you using? | 17:36 |
| OerHeks | hexchat | 17:37 |
| nicomachus | ok. 16.04 comes with a new version of irssi that breaks a lot of configs, so just checking. | 17:37 |
| OerHeks | actually i am ready, backup done, usb ready with iso, just hit the upgrade button .. | 17:37 |
| OerHeks | i read that yesterday, irssi | 17:38 |
| nicomachus | it's easy to fix, just a bit frustrating when I didn't realize what was going on. :) | 17:39 |
| OerHeks | didn't know that issue, not seen in #ubuntu anyway | 17:40 |
| nicomachus | All of a sudden SASL was broken and I couldn't connect to freenode over proxy. | 17:40 |
| nicomachus | probably because the people that need help can't get connected. haha | 17:40 |
| OerHeks | likely, yes | 17:41 |
| OerHeks | but then they would go over to webchat. | 17:41 |
| nicomachus | Google gives an answer pretty quickly, though. | 17:41 |
| nicomachus | having trouble figuring out why the kernel versions are different between my two xenial machines. :/ | 17:49 |
| nacc | nicomachus: what are the two versions? | 17:49 |
| nicomachus | https://paste.ubuntu.com/19389046/ | 17:51 |
| nacc | so they both have 4.4.0-28 installed | 17:52 |
| nicomachus | the weird part is, Box 2 on that paste is using the -28 kernel, not the -41 | 17:52 |
| nicomachus | nacc: but Box 1 is using -31 (just installed) | 17:52 |
| nacc | nicomachus: you'd want to box 2 to be using -28, -41 is the 4.2.0 15.10 kernel | 17:53 |
| nacc | nicomachus: i think it's just a timing thing, my mirror just got the new kernel (-31) in the last 10 minutes | 17:53 |
| nicomachus | nacc: ah, I didn't consider the -41 being leftover from 15.10 | 17:54 |
| nicomachus | I suppose I may get the -31 for it later today. just checked and it wasn't there yet. | 17:54 |
| nacc | nicomachus: you could always switch to the primary archive (or use the same as box 1), but that update just rolled out today | 17:55 |
| nicomachus | they are the same, oddly. | 17:55 |
| nacc | strange! | 17:56 |
| OerHeks | 4.2.0.42.45 rolling in here too | 18:08 |
| OerHeks | 15.10 | 18:08 |
| OerHeks | brb | 18:10 |
| nicomachus | nowww I'm getting -31 on this box. | 18:15 |
| nacc | nicomachus: very strange! | 18:17 |
| daftykins | you didn't need sudo to look in /boot :D | 18:47 |
| nicomachus | daftykins: yea you're right. oh well. | 18:48 |
| nicomachus | I was thinking it gave a more complete list, but it's the same. | 18:48 |
| daftykins | :) | 18:48 |
| tgm4883 | rsync is not a backup... | 18:58 |
| nacc | heh | 18:59 |
| lordievader | It can do backup tasks... Dirvish, a backup utility, is a simple wrapper around rsync. | 19:05 |
| tgm4883 | lordievader: I'd argue it's not doing a backup task then | 19:06 |
| tgm4883 | but ok, rsync, without some sort of wrapper, is not a backup utility | 19:07 |
| lordievader | Can still be. | 19:07 |
| tgm4883 | lordievader: meh, it can be in the same way that cp can be | 19:07 |
| lordievader | Yes, a very manual backup utility. | 19:08 |
| tgm4883 | OerHeks: I must be irritable today | 19:34 |
| dax | duplicity <3 | 19:35 |
| OerHeks | not in my ears | 19:35 |
| nacc | tgm4883: me too :0 | 19:37 |
| tgm4883 | wth is deep trying to do? | 19:38 |
| nacc | something wrong, presuambly | 19:38 |
| nacc | but won't tell waht | 19:38 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 19:40 |
| tgm4883 | !slap jilocasin0 | 19:40 |
| nacc | heh | 19:41 |
| OerHeks | there is a repeat in #ubuntu .. | 19:42 |
| OerHeks | utoxication | 19:43 |
| tgm4883 | nacc: pretty sure I found his issue | 20:01 |
| nacc | tgm4883: ack, is it just me or are those .bashrc modifications fubar? | 20:01 |
| tgm4883 | yea they are all wrong I think | 20:01 |
| tgm4883 | I'm verifying now | 20:01 |
| tgm4883 | hmm, maybe not | 20:03 |
| tgm4883 | there it is | 20:06 |
| tgm4883 | nice find nacc | 20:06 |
| tgm4883 | nacc: it's definitely that PATH=y | 20:11 |
| nacc | yep | 20:11 |
| nacc | tgm4883: it's like pulling teeth! | 20:15 |
| tgm4883 | yep | 20:15 |
| tgm4883 | ones where people can't copy&paste are especially difficult | 20:15 |
| tgm4883 | I should go get lunch | 20:15 |
| * nacc too! it's afternoon already | 20:16 | |
| tgm4883 | Some days I wish you could curse in #ubuntu | 20:17 |
| runrickus | Bashing-om hello | 21:09 |
| Bashing-om | hey ole friend .. " ubuntuforums.org refused to connect." :( | 21:10 |
| runrickus | Yeppers! You knew what i was going to ask...lol | 21:11 |
| Bashing-om | runrickus: I had that idea .. #ubuntu-forums : < bapoumba> IS took it down again . | 21:12 |
| runrickus | Boy that was fast...I was just reading that when it went down | 21:13 |
| Bashing-om | runrickus: Whatever happened to a warning that we were going down ? | 21:16 |
| runrickus | I will Pm you on that...good reason though | 21:17 |
| Bashing-om | Hokay .. will look forward to the advisement. | 21:17 |
| tgm4883 | nacc: maybe we should change our nicks. Add a -dds on the end | 22:16 |
| nacc | tgm4883: heh | 22:24 |
| tgm4883 | nacc: has it always been this bad? | 22:32 |
| nacc | tgm4883: it seems especially bad today | 22:32 |
| tgm4883 | ok, thought it was just me | 22:32 |
| nacc | and there are more ... helpful? ... people who are chiming in with potentially bad advice than normal | 22:33 |
| tgm4883 | yea I noticed that too | 22:33 |
| tgm4883 | nacc: I think I see the confusion earlier. linux-image isn't a metapackage | 23:23 |
| nacc | ah | 23:24 |
| tgm4883 | so he should just need to remove linux-image (and the other kernels he doesn't want) | 23:25 |
| tgm4883 | then be fine | 23:25 |
| tgm4883 | provided he has the one that he wants installed | 23:25 |
| nacc | tgm4883: i was wondering about that | 23:25 |
| tgm4883 | yea virtual packages are weird | 23:25 |
| tgm4883 | I guess they don't really have a version number associated with them | 23:25 |
| nacc | rmadison says linux-image only existed in precise :) | 23:26 |
| nacc | linux-image-generic should be pinnable, though | 23:26 |
| tgm4883 | nacc: perhaps | 23:27 |
| tgm4883 | nacc: although | 23:27 |
| tgm4883 | he's probably on trusty? | 23:27 |
| nacc | yeah, that's what i read based upon the kernel version | 23:28 |
| tgm4883 | yea linux-image is in trusty too | 23:28 |
| nacc | i wonder why rmadison doesn't see it, maybe it went from real to virtual at that point | 23:29 |
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