[04:56] <mappps> hi
[04:56] <mappps> might start watching last ship
[04:58] <daftykins> o0
[05:04] <mappps> ;]
[05:06] <mappps> you watch many shows
[05:08] <daftykins> got a few i'm not finishing lately
[05:08] <mapps> oh
[05:08] <mapps> bored of them?
[05:08] <daftykins> still doing a rewatch of Frasier for a light hearted disposable short episode one, at the mo
[05:09] <daftykins> just picking hotels in the US <o/ \o> all booked to head over in September
[05:09] <mapps> yay
[05:09] <mapps> where and for how long
[05:09] <daftykins> few cities, 3 weeks
[05:11] <mapps> nice
[05:12] <daftykins> gonna check out the Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado \o/ be nice to see the nearby city of Boulder again, really liked that back in 2012
[05:13] <mapps> sweet who you going with
[05:16] <daftykins> meeting up with folks along the way really, heading out on my own
[05:17] <daftykins> come October i'm gonna so hate planes ;)
[05:18] <mapps> :D
[05:18] <mapps> not scared of flying?
[05:18] <mapps> some people hate take off
[05:24] <daftykins> nah never been fussed
[05:24] <daftykins> only fear was when we had our little planes where you'd be seated by weight
[05:24] <daftykins> i'd always be next to my old girl and get talked half to death XD
[05:39] <mapps> ;]
[05:44] <mapps> whats with pokemon go
[05:44] <mapps> people going mad for it..isnt pokemon for kids
[05:45] <daftykins> my thoughts exactly
[05:45] <daftykins> but i believe the people that are into it, were kids when it first came out
[05:47] <mapps> hm
[05:47] <mapps> still...
[05:57] <zmoylan-pi> i think it's that it allows a generation of adults who grew up watching pokemon cartoons as kids to now play pokemon in real world
[07:08] <knightwise> join #ubuntu-us
[07:08] <daftykins> you traitor ;_;
[07:12] <zmoylan-pi> might be doing it to correct their spelling... :-)
[07:13] <knightwise> daftykins: :) Sorry bout that
[07:13] <knightwise> There was nobody there anyway
[07:14] <daftykins> oh is that a dead channel?
[07:14] <daftykins> and don't worry, just teasing :D
[07:14] <zmoylan-pi> us is so big they'd have to break it down state by state?
[07:15] <daftykins> that's true, i think they may well do
[07:15] <Myrtti> they do
[07:15] <daftykins> i bet every one is idletown! :D
[07:16] <knightwise>  A lot of irc channels are fairly ... quiet these days
[07:17] <knightwise> been looking for some nice tech channels to monitor during the day
[07:17] <knightwise> just to bash off boredom
[07:17] <daftykins> ah yeah
[07:18] <knightwise> hmm.. nice simple tutorial on an ssh vpn http://teohm.com/blog/2012/04/01/using-sshuttle-in-daily-work/
[07:23] <corenominal> morning :)
[07:23] <daftykins> \o
[07:27] <knightwise> morning corenominal
[07:42] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:42] <daftykins> \o
[07:53] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:53] <daftykins> \o
[08:04] <brobostigon> morning daftykins
[08:07] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[08:07] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:07] <knightwise> hey davmor2
[08:07] <daftykins> i hope we get some new exciting Jupiter pictures from NASA soon, they're really impressive
[08:10] <brobostigon> hi kbingham
[08:10] <brobostigon> hi knightwise
[08:10] <brobostigon> sorry kbingham
[08:10] <knightwise> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpsQimYhNkA&feature=youtu.be
[08:10] <knightwise> Music by Vangelis from the album "Alexander"
[08:11] <kbingham> brobostigon: no worries :) Hello right back!
[08:12] <brobostigon> :)
[08:13] <daftykins> when i read Vangelis i wonder if it means the same creator as the Blade Runner soundtrack
[08:14] <knightwise> yep it does
[08:14] <knightwise> he also did the soundtrack for the rover mars mission
[08:14] <knightwise> google Vangelis Mithodea
[08:15] <daftykins> o0
[08:20] <zmoylan-pi> also did some of the music for the original cosmos tv show with carl sagan.
[08:24] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: correct.
[08:25] <zmoylan-pi> loved that show as a kid... got it on dvd and loved it all over again.  watching him explain to a class room of kids ideas for detecting planets around other suns before we had was inspiring
[08:26]  * knightwise has hit on his ipad
[08:26] <knightwise> has IT
[08:26] <zmoylan-pi> ripped and sitting on a hard drive here too
[08:27] <zmoylan-pi> i really liked the new version with tyson but sagan to me was just better at inspiring wonder
[08:27] <knightwise> sagan has "the voice"
[08:27] <knightwise> "THE" voice
[08:28] <zmoylan-pi> and his prediction of the ad blocker wars in contact was spot on
[08:28] <knightwise> This is my favorite part from episode 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0QQJfPi3ps
[08:28] <knightwise> This is where he flies in from beyond the galaxy to find us where we are
[08:29] <knightwise> the track is not on the orginal cosmos album but is from Apocalypse des animaux
[08:30] <daftykins> yay my optical only took about 10 prods of eject before it opened this time \o/
[08:31] <knightwise> daftykins: tried raping it with a paperclip ?
[08:32] <daftykins> oof
[08:32] <daftykins> i think the motor rubber band type thing is somehow slipping, i've seen this on a few drives now once they hit almost a decade old
[08:33] <knightwise> daftykins: what machine are you using
[08:33] <knightwise> (and why do you still need an optical disk ? )
[08:34] <daftykins> i'm ripping an old 70s compilation for a client, to FLAC
[08:34] <daftykins> i'd always push buying CD and ripping if FLAC can't be bought directly (for this client, more of an audiophile type with bags of money)
[08:35] <daftykins> aaaaand... it's a Pioneer DVR-215D in my file server
[08:36] <daftykins> i did have an ancient NEC ND-3520A but the laser stopped focussing so i had to ditch it
[08:36] <daftykins> DVD still works, but not CD :>
[08:40] <knightwise>  daftykins how about using an external usb one ,
[08:42] <daftykins> i don't think changing the bus would help anything
[08:42] <daftykins> ah i'm so glad this set of discs aren't as damaged
[08:50] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy Basille Day! 😃
[08:51] <daftykins> Basille Brush?!
[08:51] <JamesTait> Mais oui!
[08:52] <JamesTait> I can blame my fingers for the poor typing, but my eyes are fine today. :-/
[08:54] <daftykins> :)
[08:57] <JamesTait> When I woke up this morning I'd been lying on my left arm, apparently for some time as it was completely dead.  I still can't feel it properly from the elbow down.
[08:58] <JamesTait> Which makes typing just that bit more challenging.
[09:01] <daftykins> ah, bit of Saturday night arm
[09:02] <daftykins> might not hurt to do some swinging around of said arm and fast finger flapping as if "air-typing" to try and speed up the circulation return :D
[09:03] <JamesTait> Yeah, I've been trying all kinds of things to get the blood flowing again, but to no avail so far.
[09:05] <foobarry> squeezing a squash ball
[09:06] <foobarry> i have a powerball somehwere. those things are great
[09:07] <zmoylan-pi> i got a mate a nice stress ball tardis for a tenner a few weeks back.  his commute is horrible
[09:07] <daftykins> :S
[09:08] <daftykins> what is this "commute" ? i only know the other side of the island and back again!
[09:08] <zmoylan-pi> what happens when they take the roads in for the winter? :-)
[09:08] <daftykins> oh the island closes for winter, sir
[09:09] <daftykins> Great Uncle Bulgaria decrees it is time to put down tools and hibernate
[09:09] <zmoylan-pi> https://www.amazon.com/Underground-Toys-B02R1063-TARDIS-Stress/dp/B00AQFW3V8
[09:09] <daftykins> ah pants, i just gave away our secret government structure
[09:09]  * JamesTait considers his 8-metre commute quite long enough.
[09:10]  * zmoylan-pi wonders what speed JamesTait plays his podcasts at to get through them on his commute... :-P
[09:10]  * JamesTait wonders why the rest of the world doesn't sound like chipmunks.
[09:11] <zmoylan-pi> all the helium escaped
[09:12] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKBfqdbki0k
[09:12] <davmor2> JamesTait: I think that covers us right :D
[09:14] <JamesTait> Well played, davmor2. ☺
[09:17] <davmor2> How to ruin the celebration of a French revolution by making it English again it's the only way :D
[09:55] <xxx_34255> I have a problem  with my nm aplet[ I use ubuntu 16.04]. When I try to connect to hidden wifi network the connect button is  greyed.Any help?
[09:58] <daftykins> what about creating a manual one and entering its' name?
[09:59] <daftykins> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1542733
[09:59] <daftykins> confirmed bug
[09:59] <daftykins> "workaround is: nmcli c up id <WiFiSSID> "
[10:00] <xxx_34255> I erased the the network and  reconnected. but when I tried to connect  to hidden wifi network from nm applet the same problem appeard again
[10:00] <daftykins> yes, the bug explains that, see above
[10:02] <daftykins> or if you have control over the network, don't hide the SSID - it's not a security benefit
[10:02] <xxx_34255> yes I saw it in launchpad but is there any status for the future correction of this bug?
[10:02] <daftykins> no
[10:03] <daftykins> you can put the above command in a script as a workaround
[10:03] <daftykins> so grateful!
[10:08]  * zmoylan-pi hands daftykins a generic penguin bar and a mug of tea in compensation
[10:09] <daftykins> yay!
[10:09] <daftykins> wait... small mcvities chocolate bar, or is this penguin meat?
[10:09]  * daftykins squints at zmoylan-pi 
[10:10] <zmoylan-pi> aldi penguin knock off bars called seal bars
[10:10] <daftykins> zomg do those really exist?
[10:11] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.foodstufffinds.co.uk/2014/04/aldi-seal-bars-chocolate-biscuits.html
[10:13] <daftykins> cor
[10:13] <daftykins> we don't have an aldi or lidl, else i'd have to pick one up to see if it... gets the seal of approval
[10:13] <zmoylan-pi> it's the 21st century, gotta love the generic cheap knockoffs
[10:14] <TwistedLucidity> Probably comes out of the same factory
[10:15] <zmoylan-pi> what sort of barren wasteland do you live in? :-P  even with my wonky leg and slow speed i can get to 2 tescos, 2 super valus, 2 lidls and an aldi and back in <2 hours-ish
[10:16] <daftykins> we have none o' those
[10:17] <daftykins> you name it we've not got it!
[10:17] <daftykins> step this way to peruse the wares of "that bloke what has the fish, etc" or this way for "the geezer with the meat"
[10:18] <zmoylan-pi> oh we have those too.
[10:18] <daftykins> ah i wanted to portray that the local signs are so backwards they'd literally read as the above
[10:20] <zmoylan-pi> i didn't know till recently but old irish shop signs were required by law to have the family name on them for some reason.  mostly pubs but in rural areas they were also the shops, post office, farm equipment suppliers
[10:20] <daftykins> o0
[10:21] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: I think daftykins is living in the wrong time....
[10:21] <zmoylan-pi> you'd walk in for a pack of polo and end up at back of the shop looking at new plough... impulse sales... :-P
[10:21] <daftykins> i'm just living plain wrong! :D
[10:21] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: what's the Irish version of 'oo-arr' ?
[10:21] <TwistedLucidity> Shops should, under penalty of death, be required to display their number and street.
[10:22] <zmoylan-pi> well in ireland some streets have no names.  or numbers
[10:22] <TwistedLucidity>  /\ A minor pet peeve of mine is the horrendous nature of street signage in the UK
[10:22] <TwistedLucidity> "We are at 123 Somewhere Street". Well...great...there's no visible street signs for a 10 mile radius. Helpful.
[10:23] <zmoylan-pi> had norwegian living in small lane with 3 houses with same number on it.  it amazed him that postal service always got his post there and didn't mix it up
[10:23] <zmoylan-pi> but we've just spent €38m on a post code system that after a year almost no one is using.
[10:24] <daftykins> good to know IT projects fail spectacularly over there, too
[10:24] <zmoylan-pi> we had electronic voting for a while too... it used ms access so you knew it was /special/
[10:25] <foobarry> just bought a burglar alarm :S
[10:25] <foobarry> got to the point where i'm the only one inthe street without one
[10:25] <zmoylan-pi> a rottweiler?
[10:26] <foobarry> have a friendly doggy but bougt an electronic one
[10:27] <foobarry> spending spree this month
[10:27] <TwistedLucidity> Change the locks as well. Semi-decent anti-bumpd/snap/pick can be had for ~£25
[10:28] <Seeker`> foobarry: it's an anti-burglar arms race!
[10:28] <davmor2> foobarry: oh you got one of these http://gizmodo.com/hyper-little-dog-bot-might-be-the-worlds-first-robot-ch-1783586849
[10:28] <TwistedLucidity> PIR security lights are cheap too
[10:28] <foobarry> but useless
[10:28] <Seeker`> now you've got one, they'll all have to upgrade to make sure they don't have the least secure house in the street
[10:28] <TwistedLucidity> Ours work....
[10:28] <foobarry> if you are in bed
[10:28] <TwistedLucidity> Seeker`: It pretty much is. You can't make the place impentrable, only the least easy to break into
[10:28] <foobarry> then it just lights up the area for teh bad guy to see
[10:29] <TwistedLucidity> And to be see
[10:29] <TwistedLucidity> n
[10:29] <TwistedLucidity> It's also a warning "I though about fitting this to my house, what else did I think about?"
[10:29] <zmoylan-pi> i love pir lights as it means i can walk around house at night without having to turn lights on and off as one hand is usually on hand rail due to wonky leg and other hand is often carrying something so never a hand free
[10:30] <TwistedLucidity> Same with a decent(ish) lock. It's a sign you've thought to some degree about security; less hassle to go elsewhere.
[10:30] <foobarry> i have a chubb lock
[10:31] <foobarry> aren't they quite secure?
[10:31] <foobarry> say yes please
[10:31] <TwistedLucidity> Depends
[10:31] <zmoylan-pi> there are no secure locks. there are merely locks that more hassle to bypass
[10:31] <TwistedLucidity>  /\ That
[10:32] <foobarry> the guy who wanted to get in my shed REALLY wanted to get in
[10:32] <foobarry> smahed a load of tools doing so
[10:32] <zmoylan-pi> what you are doing is not detering criminals but telling them to go to some less defended location
[10:32] <TwistedLucidity> Exactly.
[10:33] <TwistedLucidity> Chubb do make good locks. Even Yale make good locks. It all depends on exactly what was bought, how it was fitted and what it was fitted into.
[10:57] <foobarry> Myrtti might be interseted in my wifes new acquisition
[10:57]  * daftykins raises an eyebrow
[10:57] <foobarry> she got an overlocker for dressmaking
[10:57] <Myrtti> uuuuuhhh
[10:57] <foobarry> rather than an overclocker
[10:57] <Myrtti> nice
[10:57] <foobarry> which my fingers want to type
[10:57] <daftykins> :)
[10:57] <Myrtti> I just want to upcycle old towels and jumpers for my own nefarious uses
[10:58] <daftykins> how would one overclock a dress... tune in next time, on #ubuntu-uk
[10:59] <foobarry> do dooo do dooo
[10:59] <foobarry> ...right
[10:59] <zmoylan-pi> i think lilli ann over clocked suits in the 50s... https://www.flickr.com/photos/53035820@N02/5180613214/
[11:01] <daftykins> o0
[11:04] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: steam punkers would have a field day with that
[11:06] <daftykins> yep, tough to iron indeed
[11:06] <daftykins> ;)
[11:07] <zmoylan-pi> i think if that suit showed a wrinkle you get you money back
[11:09] <daftykins> you don't get confident marketing like that anymore
[11:09] <foobarry> get a steel version of that in skyrim
[11:10] <foobarry> .win 9
[11:50] <DJones> What.... http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/apple-rumour-buy-formula-1-use-f1-promote-apple-car?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
[11:50] <knightwise> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJZzkAtJqKY
[11:50] <knightwise> here you go :) Some random tune :) Eminem + ... an accordeon
[11:51] <DJones> Wonder if the drivers will have to listen to itunes in their helmets whiledriving at 200mph
[11:55] <zmoylan-pi> speed metal?
[11:56] <knightwise> Next iphone won't have an audiojack connector
[11:57] <knightwise> Drm is coming baby
[11:57] <zmoylan-pi> this is news again?
[11:57] <knightwise> not really but the implementations are a little frightening.
[11:57] <knightwise> this phone wont playback that ripped mp3
[11:57] <zmoylan-pi> bt headphones are ok, but means i can't listen to fm radio on my phones which is a real loss
[11:58] <zmoylan-pi> means that really expensive headphones people just bought are obsolete or will need an ugly convertor
[11:58] <zmoylan-pi> if anyone can move the industry away from normal head phone jacks it's apple but i really hope they fail
[12:02] <knightwise> hmm.. i hope so
[12:37] <foobarry> will it be usb3?
[12:49] <zmoylan-pi> it'll be usb 6 which is twice as good, it'll just need a wacky apple cable with 2 usb3 headers and costs 100 quid to replace :-P
[12:51] <zmoylan-pi> you'll also probably need a new mac laptop to be able to connect to it... :-D
[13:22] <awilkins> AppleTalk for headphones
[13:23] <awilkins> All audio is written as scripts
[15:03] <imexil> looking at popey's snapcraft screencast I was wondering if there also exits a snap for simplescreenrecorder ;-)
[15:08] <imexil> just noticed probably wrong channel.
[15:13] <diddledan> morning
[15:20] <diddledan> http://interestingengineering.com/code-moon-landings-released-surprising-hilarious/
[15:20] <foobarry> is there a supported way of downloading youtube vids onto my tablet for offline viewing?
[15:20] <foobarry> or is that what youtube red is for?
[15:31] <ali1234> click on "watch later"
[15:36] <BigRedS> foobarry: I don't think you can do it offline, you always need enough of a connection to let Google check you're still allowed to watch it
[15:37] <BigRedS> but you can make it download the data in preparation
[15:37] <foobarry> i found a site that lets me download it
[15:38] <foobarry> ru.savefrom.net lets you paste a link
[15:40] <DJones> Hmmh, gocompare.com looks like its sells email addresses to 3rd parties despite being told not to pass on details to them
[15:40] <foobarry> ewww
[15:40] <foobarry> and not meerkats
[15:40] <foobarry> i got a superman one. my wife is so happy with it
[15:40] <DJones> Getting unsolicated spam email from swinton insurance to an email address only given to gocompare
[15:43] <foobarry> might not be gocompares fault
[15:43] <foobarry> swinton may not honour an API/form setting
[15:44] <foobarry> when gocompare does its search
[15:44] <DJones> So, hacking by negligence then
[15:45] <awilkins> Naah, if you say you don't want to expose information and you do, it's your fault
[15:45] <awilkins> (gocompare)
[15:45] <DJones> In that case it'd be the website fault for exposin the info
[15:46] <awilkins> Indeed
[15:47] <foobarry> swinton may require it
[15:49] <foobarry> ali1234: watch later only tags a video, rather than downloads it
[15:56] <diddledan> is it just me, or is this entire email incoherent? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2016-July/016735.html
[15:56] <diddledan> I can't figure-out anything he's trying to say
[16:40] <ali1234> he's trying to say that secure boot is pointless for nearly all usecases
[17:50] <diddledan> https://medium.com/@karthikb351/airtel-is-sniffing-and-censoring-cloudflares-traffic-in-india-and-they-don-t-even-know-it-90935f7f6d98#.d4bi42j71
[18:52] <diddledan> pokémon song: https://youtu.be/zbKV4YzLP4o
[19:50] <diddledan> bad voltage podcast today has a good discussion over the brexit vote and the parallels with american politics right now.
[19:53] <zmoylan-pi> translation: letting the average person vote never ends well... :-P
[19:53] <diddledan> lol
[19:53] <diddledan> I find it interesting that most of the techy people I know were remainers
[19:54] <diddledan> and the non techy ones were more leaning toward leave
[19:54] <zmoylan-pi> linux people hate forking... :-P
[19:54] <diddledan> haha
[20:12] <diddledan> good news everybody: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36800334
[20:16] <brmbrmcar> ooh
[20:20] <zmoylan-pi> don't worry, may will give the americans anything they aren't allowed collect anymore
[20:21] <brmbrmcar> :(
[20:21] <diddledan> the servers are in Ireland
[20:22] <zmoylan-pi> all the undersea cables running into and out of ireland have uk money in them
[21:14] <diddledan> wait, what? I just found out boris jonhston is the foreign secretary?!
[21:14] <diddledan> I guess he did get a job out of the mess then, after all
[21:15] <zmoylan-pi> now he gets to be sent to turkey to see their president... after his poem...
[21:16] <diddledan> http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/a-map-of-all-the-countries-boris-johnson-has-offended--W1zaTLC63rW
[21:19] <ali1234> pretty obvious in hindsight that he quit the leadership contest because he was offered this job
[21:21] <zmoylan-pi> will look good on future attempt at pm job
[21:21] <MooDoo> evening
[23:40] <diddledan> dammit. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/14/truck-crashes-into-crowd-at-bastille-day-celebrations-in-nice2/