[12:54] <cmaloney> morn
[14:10] <jrwren> does anyone know anything about the Jonathan Hall Memorial Library in Ridgeway?
[14:25] <cmaloney> Nope.
[17:07] <rick_h_> maybe I should have come to CHC last night instead of fishing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_nZIs-4tI8
[17:07] <jrwren> nope
[17:36] <mrgoodcat> oh man that looks awful
[17:36] <mrgoodcat> what camera is that out of curiosity?
[17:37] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: the sony av cam
[17:39] <mrgoodcat> i've heard that thing is sweet. video looks good
[17:39] <mrgoodcat> bit of water on the lens makes it look like you weren't wearing pants tho
[17:40] <rick_h_> lol
[17:40] <rick_h_> yea, I've used it for the other videos I have up there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfxhvxNIYvc
[17:40] <rick_h_> well the ones from this year
[17:40] <rick_h_> got it for the hawaii trip
[17:41] <rick_h_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETaykvw0pbw
[17:41] <rick_h_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJKA5fKqsoo
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> do you have a gimbal or anything like that?
[17:42] <rick_h_> no, just a selfie stick and a handle I use on it and then I mount it on the kayak when I use it there
[17:42] <rick_h_> I got that camera because it has some built in IS though
[17:42] <rick_h_> so it should be a bit more forgiving without giant accessories
[17:43] <mrgoodcat>  yea from the trailer walkthrough it looked like there was some IS going on
[17:43] <mrgoodcat> but it was too jumpy to be a gimbal
[17:43] <rick_h_> yea
[18:32] <cmaloney> rick_h_: THat's the fun of fishing. :)
[18:33] <cmaloney> I keep expecting this to break into "yakkity sax" when it speeds up
[18:43] <rick_h_> lol
[19:12] <rick_h_> jcastro: noooooooo new motox replacement is sanss headphone jack wtf!
[19:21] <cmaloney> Welcome to the new age of having to have a piece of plastic that can ruin your phone.
[19:21] <cmaloney> I think they've over-shot the idea that people have Bluetooth headphones
[19:22] <cmaloney> And the quality of Bluetooth
[19:23] <cmaloney> But, Apple decreed the 3.5" headphone jack is over and we all must now suffer
[19:25] <jcastro> rick_h_: yeah, stupid
[19:31] <jrwren> apple decreed?
[19:31] <jrwren> the latest iphones have 3.5" jacks.
[19:34] <mrgoodcat> the rumor mill is that the as-yet-unreleased one will not
[19:34] <mrgoodcat> bluetooth and thunderbolt for iphone, bluetooth and usb-c for android is the most likely scenario for all flagship phones of the future
[19:35] <mrgoodcat> can't wait to buy yet another adapter to use my phone with my current headphones
[19:36] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: do you have a source?
[19:36] <jrwren> sad that rumors cause such theatrics.
[19:36] <mrgoodcat> this one is likely to be true from what i've heard
[19:37] <jrwren> lightning not thunderbolt.
[19:37] <jrwren> i might not even care if the lightning to 3.5" adapter is cheap enough.
[19:37] <mrgoodcat> w/e
[19:37] <jrwren> but if its $50, I'll be pissed!!!
[19:37] <mrgoodcat> it will need a DAC
[19:37] <mrgoodcat> and that likely means battery too
[19:37] <mrgoodcat> unless the lightning connector can power peripherals?
[19:38] <jrwren> no wai.
[19:38] <mrgoodcat> idk that much about lightning
[19:38] <jrwren> of course lightning can power things.
[19:38] <jrwren> it already powers SD readers.
[19:38] <mrgoodcat> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[19:38] <jrwren> i don't have to worry about it for 4 yrs, assuming i get 4 more years out of this phone ;]
[19:39] <mrgoodcat> yea i'm planning on keeping my n6 for as long as possible
[19:39] <mrgoodcat> and hopefully the accessory market will stabilize around the new world order of no 3.5 jacks by then
[19:39] <mrgoodcat> or they could just make bluetooth good
[19:39] <jrwren> i only use BT to connect to low quality BT speakers.
[19:40] <jrwren> what is wrong with BT?
[19:40] <jrwren> I find the number of taps on iOS to connect a BT speaker to be offensive.
[19:40] <jrwren> yes, I'm offended by the bad UX.
[19:41] <mrgoodcat> BT is alright but there are many bad implementations
[19:41] <mrgoodcat> every car ever for instance
[19:41] <jrwren> oh. i don't use cars. ;]
[19:42] <cmaloney> In the real world we use cars
[19:43] <cmaloney> (eg: ouside of Utopianarbor)
[19:45] <cmaloney> But yeah, I'm both amazed at how well Bluetooth works when it works, and horrified whenever I have to set up a new connection at how much of an insecure PITA it is to setup
[19:46] <cmaloney> and ant dongle hanging off of a phone is going to be a stress point
[19:46] <cmaloney> so invariably whenever someone sits down will be when said dongle snaps at the connector
[19:47] <jrwren> 3.5" BT adapter on the cheap might be doable and nice even.
[19:47] <cmaloney> and one more dippy device in your pocket
[19:47] <jrwren> my recent life hack has been dropping a cheap $20 BT speaker into a sock. Tying the stock to my handlebars and its my radio while biking.
[19:48] <mrgoodcat> haha
[19:48] <cmaloney> Also an effective bludgeon
[19:49] <mrgoodcat> i keep mine in a backpack
[19:49] <mrgoodcat> one of those mesh ones