[00:21] <xubuntu93w> can you please tell me where i get directions to install xubuntu without a cd in windows? i cant find any installation instruction for xunubu 16
[00:26] <pleia2> !usb
[00:26] <pleia2> that has instructions for making an installation disk in windows too
[00:26] <xubuntu93w> do i need to use a usb?
[00:27] <pleia2> if you're not using a dvd, yes
[00:27] <xubuntu93w> do i need to with lubuntu?
[00:27] <pleia2> I don't understand the question
[00:28] <pleia2> the only way to install is via usb or dvd/cd (unless you have a networked imaging server, like in a computer lab, but I doubt that)
[00:29] <xubuntu93w> oh ok.  thank you.
[00:29] <xubuntu93w> i have no clue what im doing obviously
[00:52] <Torelti> is this a good place to ask beginner questions?
[00:54] <knome> yes
[00:57] <Torelti> My computer boots fast (to lightdm), but it takes a very long time after inputting password to show the desktop. After I login, I can hear my mobo POST beep and it appears to reastart completlety then show the desktop. how can i make it go directly to desktop
[09:38] <xubuntu11i> yarak
[09:49] <sine0> hi folks. I installed ubuntu and then have installed xubuntu desktop since, is this the right channel to ask questions ?
[09:59] <sorinello_> :))
[09:59] <sorinello_> yes, this is the channel
[09:59] <sorinello_> basically tou converted your ubuntu instalation to xubuntu
[10:05] <sine0> its ok, I have selected the ubuntu desktop upon login
[10:06] <sine0> I was having some issues with xubuntu
[10:12] <knome> sine0, for what it's worth, we can't help you resolve your issues unless you tell us what they are
[12:36] <sine0> ok sorry I fixed it by changing desktops and sort of forgot about the issue
[12:36] <sine0> 1. when i do a printscreen and save it to a buffer I cant paste it anywhere
[12:37] <sine0> like i want to paste into gimp or so, and it wont work, something wrong with the paste buffer
[12:37] <sine0> switched back to ubuntu regular desktop and its fine, i assume it would be a xubuntu desktop thing
[13:31] <choki> can't believe xubuntu 16.04 has so many bugs on this t400
[13:31] <choki> suspend bug
[13:31] <choki> the whole ui is broken after it
[13:32] <xangua> Install xscreensaver ?
[13:34] <choki> i tried
[13:34] <choki> still the same broken ui most of the time :/
[13:34] <choki> i hope an update comes soon
[13:34] <choki> it is not only the mouse cursor isnt visible
[13:53] <GridCube> choki: best curse of action is to completelly disable lock screens, just let it turn of the monitor
[13:54] <choki> GridCube: yes but i always forget to manually lock my screen then
[13:54] <choki> i feel like xubuntu messed up the whole xfce experience
[13:55] <GridCube> its a lightdm issue
[13:55] <choki> :D
[13:55] <choki> on my desktop pc it works like a charm!
[13:55] <choki> GridCube: so i could just switch the display manager entirely?
[13:55] <GridCube> you can always do that
[13:56] <choki> hmm i ll try to remove it and just use the black login screen
[13:56] <GridCube> you would not be running xubuntu anymore tho
[13:56] <choki> xcD
[13:56] <choki> it is still xubuntu ha!
[13:56] <GridCube> P: its not if you change stock software
[13:56] <choki> doesnt xfce has its own display manager?
[13:56] <GridCube> no
[13:56] <choki> O_o
[14:09] <xubuntu96w> sometimes the cursor disappears. Why ?
[14:11] <choki> xubuntu96w: yes :D
[14:11] <xubuntu96w> what can I do to appear?
[14:11] <choki> xubuntu96w: ctrl+alt+f6 and then ctrl+alt+f7
[14:47] <user_00> does anyone know why I can't login as a regular user using Xubuntu 16.04 with virtualbox?
[14:47] <user_00> I cant login from Xfce or from a virtual terminal, it just kicks me back to the shell
[14:53] <GridCube> user_00: there is a problem with your .Xauthority or .ICEauthority files, just delete them from your home folder and relog
[14:53] <user_00> How am I supposed to delete them if I can't login as a normal user or root?
[14:53] <GridCube> you can do that by login in on a tty
[14:53] <user_00> no I can't, it kicks me out
[14:54] <user_00> root is disabled
[14:54] <GridCube> no, use a tty
[14:54] <GridCube> press right-ctrl and f1
[14:54] <GridCube> on the tty put your credentials
[14:55] <user_00> I did, it doesn't let me login, or it might, but all I see is the MTOD fly by and I am kicked back to the login prompt
[14:55] <GridCube> then xfce nor xubuntu had anything to do with your problem
[14:55] <GridCube> the tty login prompt¿?
[14:56] <user_00> yes
[14:56] <GridCube> that sounds absolutely unsual
[14:56] <GridCube> you then have a problem that goes beyond all my knowledge
[14:56] <user_00> I figured
[14:56] <GridCube> and again, not at the level of xubutnu is unvolved
[16:35] <sorrow> Not sure who was helping me before with the login loop issue, but it turned out that I had created a user named 'pulse', which obviously conflicts with pulse audio
[16:36] <sorrow> is there an open defect for this issue?  shouldnt it check the existing /etc/passwd file ?
[18:17] <Changizww> Hi, i'm using xubuntu 14.04! when i start and login to my user (and other users) desktop doesn't come up and it only shows wallpaper (however i could login by ctrl+alt+f1 and used startx to post this), can anyone help?! i remember i had this problem before and it was fixed by entering a couple of commands, but i can't remember now... thanks in advance
[18:49] <Changizww> anyone? :(
[19:11] <flocculant> Changizww: sometimes a full root drive can cause that, login to tty1 and see what df -h says
[19:12] <flocculant> you're looking for the / line and see what % full it is
[19:12] <flocculant> if it's 95% or so - you'll need to clear some space, start with sudo apt-get clean to remove the .deb cache
[19:13] <flocculant> if it's not full then you've a different issue
[19:13] <Changiizww> wow, you were right.. it is 96% full
[19:14] <Changiizww> really really grateful and really thanks for you kindness
[19:15] <Changiizww> sorry, but how can i clean .deb cache?
[19:47] <ax562> xubuntu software app is maintained by ubuntu correct?
[20:06] <flocculant> ax562: yes
[20:06] <ax562> thanks
[23:37] <xubuntu98w> What's the best way to remove preinstalled apps? I'm replacing parole with VLC, pidgin with xchat, and transmission with Deluge.
[23:37] <knome> there is no "best" way, but you can do it from the software center for example
[23:38] <xubuntu98w> Do those apps have dependencies? Wouldn't I need to purge in that case?
[23:38] <xubuntu98w> aptitude purge "package" for example
[23:39] <knome> the purge action removes the configuration files, not dependencies
[23:39] <knome> but in apt terms, if you want to remove the applications and their dependencies, first simple remove the package, then run the autoremove action
[23:40] <xubuntu98w> What if I want to remove the config files as well?
[23:40] <knome> then purge remove and purge autoremove
[23:41] <xubuntu98w> So to clarify: sudo aptitude purge "package" then sudo aptitude purge autoremove?
[23:44] <xubuntu98w> and could running autoremove on a regular basis potentially be harmful?
[23:45] <knome> i think aptitude asks if you want to remove those packages. if you use apt-get, you have to run the autoremove command
[23:45] <knome> no, there's no harm in it, though you don't really need to do that unless you removed any package.
[23:46] <xubuntu98w> alright, I'll run "sudo apt-get purge" and "sudo apt-get autoremove" then
[23:46] <xubuntu98w> Thanks
[23:46] <knome> sudo apt-get purge packagename
[23:46] <knome> sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[23:46] <knome> with apt-get
[23:46] <xubuntu98w> would you mind explaining what the hyphens do?
[23:47] <knome> you can only specify one action
[23:47] <knome> autoremove is the action, so if you want to purge the config files, you basically tell that with a parameter
[23:47] <xubuntu98w> "--purge"
[23:47] <xubuntu98w> Oh, ok
[23:47] <knome> purge without the dashes is an action that removes a single package with config
[23:48] <knome> so, a shorthand for:
[23:48] <knome> apt-get --purge remove packagename
[23:49] <xubuntu98w> last question, is autoremove essentially a more thorough "autoclean" or do they preform separate funcions?
[23:50] <knome> they do different functions.
[23:50] <xubuntu98w> ok
[23:50] <knome> autoclean cleans the package cache, autoremove removes unused pacakges
[23:51] <xubuntu98w> So I should run autoclean after autoremove to clear the cache?
[23:51] <xubuntu98w> I mean it's not neccessary, but helpful
[23:51] <knome> i can save some space
[23:51] <knome> *it
[23:53] <knome> not very much usually though.
[23:53] <xubuntu98w> unrelated, is thunar the only well-established file manager designed for use with xfce? It's kind of bothering me, as it crashes frequently when I rename files (something I do a lot)
[23:54] <knome> thunar is the *only* file manager designed (whatever that means...) to be used with xfce
[23:54] <knome> any file manager should work with no problems though.
[23:55] <xubuntu98w> by designed, I mean meant for the XFCE desktop environment. Wouldn't something like nautilus require additional dependencies?
[23:55] <knome> sure.
[23:56] <knome> but essentially file managers aren't tied in to desktop environments or OSes like explorer is to windows
[23:56] <knome> each of them comes with additional dependencies anyway
[23:56] <knome> additional meaning, it's not just the thunar package you need to install on top of xfce
[23:56] <xubuntu98w> Would nautalis fit seamlessly within the XFCE environment though? or would it look out of place in terms of appearance
[23:57] <knome> i don't know if nautilus has been ported to gtk3 - that's one of the things that can currently make apps look different (we're in the middle of a gtk2->gtk3 migration)
[23:57] <grauhat> Hello, I'm sure I'm just blind but I don't seem to find the download for the 14.04 release in the Xubuntu page
[23:58] <xubuntu98w> Okay, thanks for all the help
[23:58] <knome> other than that, it can look out of place because it can be a bit more cluttered than the "xfce apps"
[23:58] <knome> but there shouldn't be any technical difficulties
[23:58] <xubuntu98w> ok
[23:59] <knome> grauhat, 16.04 is recommended over 14.04 generally, so 14.04 isn't advertised
[23:59] <knome> grauhat, you can figure out the links to the right places by replacing "16.04" with "14.04" in the URL in question though, if you really need 14.04