qenghoGood morning01:20
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hikiko Hi05:06
hikikohappy Friday05:06
qenghoHI HI05:06
pittiGood morning06:08
qenghohiya, p06:25
seb128good morning desktopers06:39
pittibonjour seb128 !06:39
seb128salut pitti, ça va ?06:39
pittiseb128: ça va, et toi ?06:40
seb128ça va bien !06:40
qenghohi hi, s06:56
seb128hey qengho06:59
willcookemorning workers08:05
willcookeI'm ready to leave the country now.08:06
qenghoWhich one is that?08:07
willcookeThe UK08:09
willcookeIt's rubbish now08:09
willcookeand I hate everyone living in it08:09
willcookewith the exception of Laney08:09
Laneyi'm becoming irish08:09
davmor2willcooke: hahahahahahahahahaha08:10
seb128good morning Laney & willcooke08:10
willcooke(and davmor2)08:10
willcookemorning seb12808:10
seb128Johnson as foreign secretary08:10
seb128I know it's friday but wth08:10
seb128well at least according to http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/15/europe/boris-johnson-countries-insults-trnd/ he didn't insult France (yet)08:11
willcookeand they've closed the dept. responsible for advising on climate change and lumped it in with the energy dept.08:11
willcookeNo conflict of interest there then08:11
qenghowillcooke: have you considered having a referendum in your household?08:11
davmor2seb128: it gets worse than that, we have a pro fox hunting anti-green guy in charge of power and environment08:11
willcookeTHAT ^^^08:12
Laneyhi seb12808:12
willcookeqengho, I should become a republic :)08:12
Laneyit's friday though08:12
Laneyso like08:12
seb128do you have bananas? ;-)08:12
Laneynot all bad08:12
* willcooke gets to work designed the flag 08:12
davmor2willcooke: never mind we can vote for labour in the next general election and watch them self destruct again when they realise the 60,000 people that corbyn brought in are still labour members \o/08:13
Laneythey're working hard on stopping that08:13
willcookeyeah, shady af08:13
willcookeI'm going to join the beige party.  https://twitter.com/ProfBrianCox/status/75291906379031347208:17
ograseb128, bananas ? thats a wonderful business idea, lets hire a boat and start smuggling them, in a year from now they will be worth their weight in  gold in the uk !!08:17
Laneyonly if they are sufficiently bendy08:18
Laneydon't want you dirty europeans dictating the curvature of my bananas, we voted to get rid of that kind of nonsense08:18
* sarnold imports his straight bananas08:19
ograto late ... you will be happy if get straight green ones at the double price ...08:19
sarnoldoh yeah a fine straight banana is worth two, three times as much as those broken curved bananas08:20
ogra(straight brown spotty ones i should have said )08:20
Laneyonly non EC 2257/94 compliant bananas are to be allowed from now on08:20
qenghoogra: I think that's a sausage.08:20
Laneysigned, T May MMXVI08:20
ogra(trying to get our german goods out opf old stock)08:20
seb128Laney, exit using european numbers08:21
seb128you freak08:21
Laneythov confvsest thine self08:22
qenghoI have no idea what political statement it is, using roman numerals instead of indian numerals.08:22
qenghoWhat have the Romans ever done for *us*?08:23
ograwell, uk wants to be back in the empire ... probably it doesnt matter *which* ?08:23
* qengho worries when no one hits the easy pitches.08:24
ogra(sorry ... half of uk ... )08:24
seb128the world is all sort of the wtf recently :-/08:24
seb128Laney, but yeah, at least it's friday ;-)08:25
ograTHANK GOD !08:25
Laneysoon we'll be ready to launch the secret Canonical space programme08:25
* Laney checks we're on irc.canonical.com08:25
sarnolduhoh now look what you've done08:25
ogra* sabdfl hat die Verbindung getrennt (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)08:25
* ogra grins08:26
willcookeWe have been discovered!  Flee!08:26
Laneythe first african on mars08:26
ogramust have tiny feet, these bars are slim08:26
sarnoldogra: that's so much cooler sounding than "has quit"08:26
Laneyeveryone in cape town has heard about ubuntu by the way08:26
LaneyI was asking random people in shops and taxi drivers08:27
Laneyfame sells08:27
ograthere used to be a TV show that mark hosted ... about OSS SW08:27
ograwow, that was actually hard to find08:30
ograhe moderated a few episodes08:30
seb128hey Trevinho, how are you?08:46
Trevinhohey seb128...08:46
Trevinhoand Laney08:46
Trevinhowell... Quite shocked by the Nizza events :|08:46
seb128yeah, bad news08:48
seb128I only saw that this morning, didn't watch news yesterday before going to bed08:48
TrevinhoI did, first videos where really hard to see.08:48
seb128hey andyrock, how are you?08:52
andyrockseb128: having breakfast right now you?08:52
seb128I'm good thanks08:53
seb128it's friday!08:53
davmor2willcooke, seb128: do either of you have unity8 and unity7 on 16.04? all of a sudden 2 finger tap isn't right clicking any more on trackpad, I don't know if it is the interaction of the two unitys or a change in the system but it is annoying :(08:53
willcookedavmor2, testng08:54
ogradavmor2, yeah, libinput has deliberatly hacked out tap-to-click08:54
ograthe ione reason that keeps me from switching to unity8 here08:54
ogra(and i was lazy, havent filed a bug yet)08:54
Laneylibinput has tap to click08:54
seb128davmor2, I don't, but maybe you installed xserver-xorg-input-libinput?08:55
ograit has never been re-enabled08:55
ogra(but makes unity8 on laptops rather unusable)08:56
Laneythat says it is configurable08:56
ogra(for me at least)08:56
ograyes, but we dont confuigure it08:56
ograand our UI bit tries to talk to synclient i think08:56
davmor2seb128: ah yes possibly that got pulled in via overlay for unity8 let me see08:56
andyrockwillcooke: https://launchpad.net/~azzar1/+archive/ubuntu/unity-copy-dialog?field.series_filter=xenial08:57
Laneythat's not libinput's fault08:57
andyrockin case you want to test the copy dialog fix on xenial08:57
ograLaney, any suggestion what to file the bug against then ?08:57
ograMir ?08:57
LaneyI don't know if it would be mir or unity808:58
Laneybut either of those could make the API call to enable it08:58
Laneywhichever of those already handles libinput08:59
Laneylooks like mir does08:59
Laney    libinput_device_config_tap_set_enabled(08:59
Laney        dev, settings.tap_to_click ? LIBINPUT_CONFIG_TAP_ENABLED : LIBINPUT_CONFIG_TAP_DISABLED);08:59
willcookeandyrock, thanks!08:59
Laneythat's from mir09:00
Laneyso it has this already09:00
desrti see that word has gotten out about Ubuntu Space09:00
desrtLinus for Aliens09:00
desrti'm glad we don't have to keep quiet about that anymore09:00
seb128hey desrt09:00
LaneyThe Softpedia article is being written as we speak09:00
desrthmm.  Linux for Martians is maybe a snappier slogan09:00
desrtMark is buddies with Elon Musk, right?09:01
ograBug #160335809:01
ubot5bug 1603358 in mir (Ubuntu) "no tap to click in unity8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160335809:01
ogradavmor2, ^^^09:01
desrtseb128: hi :)09:01
ograplease confirm09:01
seb128but yeah in any case our GUI tools are not libinput friendly09:03
ograwell, we should just ship libhybris on desktops too :P09:04
ogra(and hook it up to the right spots)09:04
seb128what would an android container give us on desktop?09:06
ograworking tap to click :P09:08
seb128you seem confused09:08
ogra(i didnt say android container ... only libhybris :) )09:08
seb128that's a mir thing, not an android one09:09
ogranot confused ... just making bad jokes ...09:10
davmor2yeap libinput is installed09:10
seb128try to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/30-touchpad.conf09:10
seb128Section "InputClass"09:10
seb128        Identifier "MyTouchpad"09:10
seb128        MatchIsTouchpad "on"09:10
seb128        Driver "libinput"09:10
seb128        Option "Tapping" "on"09:10
* ogra tried that before and didnt get it working 09:11
ograi actually spent a weekend on this (which is why i had the git commit above readily around)09:11
seb128it's working under unity709:12
LaneyI'm using libinput09:12
seb128so sounds like a mir bug09:12
ograelse i wouldnt use my laptop :)09:12
Laneyactually I forgot that I was09:12
seb128Laney, right, but you are not using u809:12
Laneyit just works(!)09:12
seb128nor mir09:12
LaneyI'm following09:12
seb128yes you are using u8?09:12
* seb128 is confused09:13
LaneyMe too09:13
seb128I'm saying that it looks like a mir bug09:13
seb128but you say it's working for you?09:13
seb128or it's working for you under u7?09:13
LaneyI'm not using unity 809:13
LaneyI got interrupted before I could finish09:14
ograunder u7 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/30-touchpad.conf would actually kick in09:14
seb128k, so the libinput side is fine09:14
seb128please talk to the #ubuntu-mir crew ;-)09:14
Laneymir has some configuration for this already09:14
Laneyyou have to find out how to poke that09:14
ograwell, feel free to add to bug #160335809:16
ubot5bug 1603358 in mir (Ubuntu) "no tap to click in unity8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160335809:16
Laneyif I'm playing music when I lxc-start a container09:22
Laneythe music gets louder09:22
Laneylxc must be doing some weird stuff09:23
seb128I guess09:24
ograprobably stgraber just likes loud music ?09:24
seb128does it go back when you lxc-stop?09:24
Laneysmall man small ears09:24
* Laney tries09:25
Laneylet's see if it goes up again!09:25
seb128makes sense to raise it though09:25
seb128the container walls are soundproof09:25
ografor the people next door ?09:25
seb128no, for the people inside the box :p09:26
ograah !09:26
Laneyit's to drown out the people trapped in there09:26
andyrockhikiko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/160290110:02
ubot5Launchpad bug 1602901 in unity (Ubuntu) "[Regression] Panel/Dash background corruption with multimon" [High,Confirmed]10:02
andyrockhave you seen this?10:02
andyrocklooks like related to rev 414510:03
Laneyoh, I see that10:05
hikikoandyrock, looking at it now10:05
Laneyis that in the sru?10:06
Trevinhoyeah -_-10:06
hikikogreat :/ I don't have either nvidia or triple monitor10:06
Laneyi'm on nouveau10:07
Laneyyou can always revert it and fix later10:07
Trevinhowe can revert....10:08
Trevinhobut again, new SRU routine?10:08
TrevinhoLaney: do you want me to fire a new build?10:08
Laneydecide if you can fix it fast or revert, then build whichever one of those10:09
Laneythis is the fun of risky SRUs10:09
Trevinhofixing doesn't seem easy right now, so I'd just revert it. It's not a big change.10:09
Laneyok, gogogo10:10
hikikoI was about to say that revert is easier because we can10:10
hikikocant even reproduce it10:10
LaneyI can, so I can try fixes10:11
Trevinhook, Laney that's in nouveau too?10:13
Trevinhoanyway new build is going10:13
Laneynouveau + dual monitors10:14
Laneyassuming http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/bug.png that this is the same thing10:16
Trevinhohikiko: see if you can find a fix for yakkety in the mean time. If you can't, then prepare a revert branch please.10:16
LaneyI probably should have put a window behind that10:16
Laneybut you get it10:16
TrevinhoLaney: yeah.10:16
hikikook I am pushing the revert in a while and then I see if I can find an nvidia to fix for yaketty10:17
Laneyit's definitely nvidia only?10:17
* Laney finds the mini dp adapter thing to check10:18
hikikoLaney, ye10:18
hikikoLaney, yes10:18
hikikoI have dual monitor here (intel)10:18
hikikoand I didn't have any problems10:18
* Sweet5hark1 has now seen his second day of Pokemon Go and its amazing how it changes reality. I mean not like Ingress, which added some playful details visible to a subculture. This stuff really changes reality.10:19
hikikosomething doesn't refresh10:19
hikiko(at least sounds like that)10:19
qenghoSweet5hark1: Changes how?10:19
qenghoSweet5hark1: And are you green or blue? It's important.10:20
Sweet5hark1In the park in my neighborhood there is a little pond, and usually in you can see 2-3 people walk around there in the evening. Yesterday some folks lit up the Pokestops at that pond and I took a walk there -- like some 200 other gals and dudes standing around the pond with their phones in the hand.10:21
Sweet5hark1qengho: There is no green in pokemon ;)10:21
Laneyhikiko: ok, yeah, it doesn't happen on my intel machine10:21
Trevinhohikiko: it might be related to the fact that bgeffecthelper does some caching though10:21
Trevinhohikiko: did you test that also when forcing llvmpipe?10:22
LaneyBTW hotplugging the 1× monitor into the 2× laptop is slightly buggy10:22
ograSweet5hark1, nobody drowned yet ?10:22
Laneythe 1× output has no window controls and the mouse cursor is drawn as 2× there10:22
Trevinhohikiko: maybe having bgeffecthelper to be per-monitor works better...10:22
Trevinhobut... bohhhh10:22
Laneyit did correctly rescale the 2× one to 1× though10:22
hikikoTrevinho, I will look at it give me 1 minute to push the revert10:23
qenghoSweet5hark1: Oh, it changes reality in that players of the game are visible to muggles?10:23
Sweet5hark1ogra: https://twitter.com/Sweet5hark/status/75388571675777024010:23
Trevinhohikiko: ok, no much hurry for yakkety, since I' won't land this in a sec, but still...10:23
Sweet5hark1qengho: yes, and they are not 1-2, they are quite some crowds really.10:23
LaneySweet5hark1: Does it use the ingress data for these pokestops/gyms?10:24
Trevinhonew darwin awards are coming!10:24
Trevinhotoo many to give, though10:24
Sweet5hark1qengho: Also it changes attitude of the players. As every second person or group in the parc was playing pokemon, people arent afraid to talk to complete strangers about it as if the Pokemons are part of reality. Im usually _trying_ to guard my nerditude from complete strangers ...10:26
qenghoLaney: I read it's the same point constellation.10:28
Sweet5hark1qengho: Yesterday when I got home at 23:30 another guy walked down the otherwise empty street with his phone in his hand. FWIW he could have just been texting. He stopped at the same time as I did and turned to the right. That alone was enough for him to say to me: "There is an Enton over there, right?"10:28
Sweet5hark1qengho: Imagine that happening to you when you are NOT a Pokemon player: Some random dude at night speaking to you about "Entons".10:29
hikikoandyrock, Trevinho https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.tmp-fix-for-1602901/+merge/30017410:29
qenghoSome drug deals are going to go *weird*.10:30
Sweet5hark1Laney: Dunno because I never played ingress. But from what I heard: yes.10:30
hikikoand the question is where I can find an nvidia now.. or a way to reproduce the problem in intel10:31
happyaronwillcooke: mind to run the trello script against nm-applet when you have time?10:32
willcookehappyaron, done10:33
Sweet5hark1qengho: yes. Also you see a lot of beginners walking around with their eyes on their phones, looking up to not be run over by a truck or something, seeing other players and giving each other a knowing smile or a nod. Happens all the time.10:33
qenghoSweet5hark1: socializing. Gross.10:35
ograthats like bikers greeting each other when passing by on the street10:35
Sweet5hark1qengho: Indeed!10:36
Sweet5hark1qengho: the more experienced players are a bit harder to identify when they are casually hunting. Less, when they are not casual: Then they are moving in a groups of two to five -- or with a mounted smartphone on a bike.10:39
* ogra smells a revival of google glass ahead 10:40
Sweet5hark1ogra: yeah. possible.10:40
qenghoSweet5hark1: I heard the https commands don't verify certificates, so you could MITM and reverse engineer to make a scope for Ubutu Phone.10:41
TrevinhoLaney: on gtk3 topci... I still get a white terminal, has that been fixed?10:43
TrevinhoLaney: also menus are wrong10:44
Trevinhoand gedit...10:44
Laneyyou don't have the theme then10:44
Laneyapt-cache policy light-themes10:44
Laneyit got overtaken by an archive upload but yesterday I bumped the version and uploaded it again to the ppa10:46
Sweet5hark1qengho: likely. https://plus.google.com/+KristianK%C3%B6hntopp/posts/5Gnog8cgNoW <- says you could just mod inofficial ingress clients to work with poGo10:46
TrevinhoLaney: ah yeah... there was the landing003 which was replaced.... with the theme -_-10:46
qenghoSweet5hark1: isotopp knows everything.10:46
ograyeah, he does :)10:46
LaneyTrevinho: ._.10:48
TrevinhoInstallato: 14.04+16.10.20160706.laney2-0ubuntu110:48
Trevinhoblack bg :)10:49
Laneyso if you put Exec=/bin/sh -ec 'sleep 1; nautilus -n' in /etc/xdg/autostart/nautilus-autostart.desktop then it works10:49
TrevinhoLaney: terminal scrollbar bg is wrong though10:50
TrevinhoLaney: it has not to be gray, but lighter aubergine10:50
Laneyone thing at a time10:50
Trevinhoor transparent at all...10:50
Trevinhoah, ok, you've that in your list?10:50
Laneyactually no, but I can probably fix that10:51
TrevinhoLaney: I wanted to move nautilus to upstart since some time ago, so that it started in unity after it. That solved also another issue which seems to be present here too: the appmenus aren't exported to unity, because an option is not correclty set (gtk's shell shows appmenu or something like that)10:52
Laneyaren't there signals for that changing?10:54
TrevinhoLaney: there are, but we don't receive them10:55
TrevinhoI did a change already10:55
Sweet5hark1qengho, ogra: knowing everything is the priviledge and liability of being an old fart.10:55
TrevinhoLaney: that was it https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/menubar-visibility-signals/+merge/29292510:55
LaneyI remember from the sprint10:56
ograSweet5hark1, well, we are about the same age ... but you never praise *my* knowledge ... cant be true :P10:56
Laneyis it because we don't get connected to usd or something?10:56
Trevinhohowever... Mhmmh, this seems something related to nautilus... Not sure if would act differently when there's a compositor or not10:56
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Trevinhoseems to be... But maybe it's not related, since when I tried to run gtk320 in that VM there was no black scren11:01
Sweet5hark1ogra: the "knowing everything" of old farts usually works by declaring the rest as nonexistant. So two old farts might have very different "everything"s, sometimes with very old farts those "everything"s dont even touch anymore.11:01
ogrado you think if isotopp and i were in the same room that neutralizes everything then ?11:02
TrevinhoLaney: it's unrelated, but... I made the VM with virt-manager, I set the disk size as 8GB (but not allocating all at the start), and now df only says it's 4gb, although virt-manager still says the truth... any clue how can I enlarge it?11:08
TrevinhoADS: «enlarge your VM disk!»11:09
Laneydid you make the partition smaller than the disk?11:10
Trevinhoit doesn't seem so11:10
TrevinhoI said to use the whole disk11:10
Laneyor maybe it made swap11:10
* Trevinho checks11:11
Laneycheck with cfdisk /dev/vda11:11
Trevinhonah, it says it's 4G11:12
Laneyon the second line, above the table?11:12
Trevinhomh, ok... I see unallocated space... meh11:13
TrevinhoLaney: a similar issue I always had with nautilus in a VM is that if I resize the VM  and thus the screen, the new area stays black... untill I don't restart it. It seems the same issue to me.11:25
* Sweet5hark1 reads the backlog.11:25
Trevinhoagain, still fixed if running nautilus after compiz11:25
Trevinhowhich... isn't that bad himo11:25
Sweet5hark1Laney, willcooke: There is also the option of joining https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand -- I heard IT services made a substancial part of their GDP one time ...11:26
willcookeIt is a desolate hole.  Much like the rest of the UK atm11:27
LaneyTrevinho: hmm, well something changed with 3.2011:27
TrevinhoLaney: yes indeed, but it's like just making the issue to appear better than it used to be11:27
LaneyI suppose upstarting it is okay11:27
Sweet5hark1willcooke: I read Sealand won the egg throwing world championship in 2008. A talent that might be put to good use in UK politics.11:30
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TrevinhoLaney: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1614 is ready for you to play publish..12:46
Trevinhopitti: can you then approve it from the SRU queue?12:46
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LaneyTrevinho: I'm going to check it first13:13
Laneyis there a yakkety version?13:13
bregmaanyone know if there are plans to provide a configuration UI for Unity 8?  For instance, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8-desktop-session/+bug/160318513:14
ubot5Launchpad bug 1556795 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1603185 Mouse wheel scrolling keeps going inertially (past the location I want to scroll to)" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:14
seb128that would be a question for #ubuntu-unity13:15
seb128or #ubuntu-touch, kenvandine and jgdx work on u-s-s13:15
seb128Jonas is not here on on -unity it seems though13:16
Laneyahh the uss days13:22
Laneythey were good ones13:22
ograwill they not come back to you eventually ?13:23
ograonce u8 is the default13:23
seb128like once u8 is default desktop team takes over all the upstream components and we fire the u8 team? ;-)13:24
Laneyrocks to throw at upstream13:24
ogranah, you do the pckaging and integration, they do the upstream work :)13:24
seb128so doesn't change the reply to the settings question13:25
seb128that's for design/the upstream team working on that13:25
ograoh, right ...13:25
* ogra humms "fry-day in my brain..."13:26
TrevinhoLaney: not really matching 1:1. I've just backported some commits from the yakkety branch.13:59
Trevinhoso here there are less changes13:59
LaneyTrevinho: I mean is there a revert of this for yakkety?13:59
TrevinhoLaney: yeah, not yet landed though13:59
Laneyit's easier for me to test this14:00
* Laney builds14:04
LaneyTrevinho: DONE14:45
Laneygo forth and find an sru team member14:45
TrevinhoLaney: thanks14:46
Laneynooooooooooo silos14:46
a1faare you around?14:56
ubot5Launchpad bug 1483014 in unity (Ubuntu Xenial) "[REGRESSION] cannot switch to a given window after showing desktop" [Medium,Confirmed]14:56
seb128Laney, do you have xenial on your xps13 by any chance?15:02
Laneywas ist los?15:02
seb128Laney, trying to get somebody to SRU verifying the keyboard backlight usd fixes for .115:04
attenteseb128: i could test that for you if you want15:04
seb128e.g bug #158386115:04
ubot5bug 1583861 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Xenial) "Keyboard backlight isn't properly restored after idle on systems with hardwired configuration" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158386115:04
seb128attente, oh, that would be great, I didn't know you had a config with a backlight ;-)15:04
seb128attente, ^ is the bug15:05
LaneyIt's fixed for me on yakkety, for what it's worth15:06
LaneyI can try from an iso also15:06
* Laney checks those are building with proposed15:06
seb128if attente verifies it's good enough15:06
attenteinstallation is hanging though...15:06
seb128on what process?15:07
willcookestill with a seg fault in dpkg?15:07
attenteformatting /boot as ext215:07
seb128Laney, attente, if you have hidpi bug #1571640 would be nice to verify as well15:07
ubot5bug 1571640 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Xenial) "lightdm changing resolution" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157164015:07
seb128attente, oh, I though you had a xenial machine, not that you needed to install one ... might be testable from an iso as laney said15:07
attenteseb128: i'm trying to install xenial on it anyways. it's one of desrt's old xps' that i bought off her15:08
seb128oh ok15:08
Laneyseb128: I think chrisccoulson has hidpi maybe15:09
seb128Laney, you xps is a lowdpi one?15:09
Laneyit's not on xenial15:10
seb128knowing if you noticed an improvement in the new version of yakkety would be useful still ;-)15:10
seb128like apparently it was changing the scaling factor with a delay before15:10
seb128which made the UI scale in front of you15:10
Laneymitya57: there's 2 silos15:10
seb128and should do less of that15:10
willcookehikiko, nice work on hexchat :)15:11
LaneyI know the bug, I can reboot if you want me to, not useful for sru verificaton though15:11
seb128no need to reboot now15:11
seb128I can watch you try on sunday :p15:11
seb128those are not going to be copied over before monday I guess15:12
seb128and yeah, ideally we need somebody to test on xenial as well15:12
seb128though if that doesn't happen I'm going to wave the no regression flag to get those copied over15:12
attenteok, installation is going now15:12
seb128Trevinho, could you try to get bug #1415265 SRU verified, it doesn't have a testcase...15:18
ubot5bug 1415265 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Xenial) "The screen saver is interrupting me while watching Netflix " [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141526515:18
seb128or not one that I can try here at least, I don't have netflix15:18
* pitti waves, calling it a day -- still some packing to do15:24
pittiseb128: revoir à demain, je l'attends avec impatience !15:25
seb128pitti, bonne soirée, à demain ! moi aussi ;-)15:25
pittiseb128: oh, does testing that bug involve doing a series marathon on work time?15:25
* pitti signs up15:25
pittiseb128: you'll be at home?15:25
seb128pitti, do you have data?15:26
pittithe walk doesn't look too complicated, and I have a map15:26
seb128I might come picking you up at the station15:26
a1faandyrock: my bad :(15:26
seb128pitti, let's get in touch, either telegram or sms15:26
pittiseb128: no, better send SMS after I left Germay (around 15:00)15:26
seb128your train arrive at 18:25?15:26
pittiseb128: I can enable roaming, but I don't like leaving it on all the time -- stuff is just too chatty for that15:26
pittiseb128: oui15:26
seb128don't worry, sms is fine15:26
seb128I probably come to pick you up15:27
pittinice *hug*15:27
seb128in any case I let you know by sms a bit before you arrive15:27
pittialors, à demain !15:27
andyrocka1fa: be sure to have the correct version of unity15:27
pittiyes, will do15:27
pittiLaney, tedg: safe travels, see you!15:27
seb128have a nice evening and nice train day tomorrow!15:27
desrtBye bye everyone15:28
* desrt heads off to two weeks in Esperantujo15:29
pittidesrt: safe travels over the pond to you too15:29
a1fai do15:29
desrtNo pond here.  Dortmund -> Breslau.15:30
andyrocka1fa: did you restart?15:30
andyrockor at least logout/login15:30
Laneysee you pitti!15:30
pittidesrt: oh, I thought you said Portland15:30
* pitti waves15:30
seb128desrt, have fun at those esperanto weeks ;-)15:31
* ogra wonders, is "portland" esperanto for "dortmund" ?15:31
attenteseb128: it didn't fix it for me15:34
seb128attente, oh, is that a new install with only u-s-d installed?15:34
attenteseb128: yeah, it's a fresh install with proposed enabled15:35
seb128 but only u-s-d updated?15:35
seb128you need to update upower as well15:35
attenteis the upower update in proposed too?15:35
seb128in updates15:35
attentei didn't see it in the list, what version should it be?15:35
seb128bug  #158569115:36
ubot5bug 1585691 in upower (Ubuntu) "[regression] keyboard backlight is not exported in upower 0.99.4-2git1" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158569115:36
attenteupower is 0.99.4-2 here15:36
Trevinhoseb128: that's in fact the same of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1584161 so I think I can mark as verified15:36
ubot5Launchpad bug 1584161 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Xenial) "Freedesktop Screensaver API is not implemented" [Medium,Fix committed]15:36
seb128sorry bug #158386115:36
ubot5bug 1583861 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Xenial) "Keyboard backlight isn't properly restored after idle on systems with hardwired configuration" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158386115:36
seb128attente, k, you need to update15:37
seb128Trevinho, great15:37
a1faandyrock: i did15:37
attenteseb128: hrm. there's no candidate for 0.99.4-2ubuntu0.215:37
a1faandyrock: is there a setting anywhere to always bringup window selection versus bringing up last active window15:37
seb128attente, you have -updates enabled?15:37
andyrocka1fa: nope15:38
seb128attente, sorry, it has been supperseeded with another fix, it's 2ubuntu0.3 now15:38
andyrocka1fa: weird it's fixed here15:38
a1faandyrock: that would be a nice thing to have15:38
a1faandyrock: i would buy you a 6-pack :)15:38
desrtseb128: pitti: thanks!  bye.15:38
a1faandyrock: going to reboot15:38
attenteseb128: doh15:39
seb128attente, did you find it? ;-)15:39
attenteseb128: yup :)15:39
a1fait works.. but it worked last time too.. it worked for 3 days then it stopped working15:40
Trevinhoseb128: for usd the only missing verification is now https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1571640 which... maybe Laney can check?15:41
ubot5Launchpad bug 1571640 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Xenial) "unity-greeter scaling factor changes after a delay" [High,Confirmed]15:41
seb128Trevinho, see backlog15:41
seb128he said he could check on yakkety15:41
seb128ideally we would need somebody on xenial15:41
seb128but if not I guess we can play the "no regression card"15:41
Trevinhoseb128: yeah... I agree15:42
Laneywhat card is that?15:42
TrevinhoI mean, the code is the same15:42
TrevinhoLaney:  a new pokemon go feature15:42
seb128Laney, it's that when we don't have anyone to verify a SRU fix we a least check that there is no regression15:45
a1faandyrock: i rebooted 3 days ago after the fix came out15:45
seb128Laney, which is usually good enough to convince the SRU team to not block the other stack of verified fixes on the one we can't verify15:45
a1faandyrock: and i just rebooted again just in case, i will keep monitoring it15:45
Laneyoh right15:45
andyrocka1fa: i was able to reproduce that bug all the time15:45
andyrocki can't now if after some time you can still reproduce it maybe it's a different bug15:46
andyrockshow-desktop it has been broken for a while we actually tought to disable it15:47
attenteseb128: ok, it seems to work now15:49
gQuigsa1fa: are you doing Alt-tab and then show-desktop?15:49
seb128attente, great! thanks for testing ;-)15:49
TrevinhoLaney: mh, I've built inside the VM the last nautilus sources... and with that... I always get a black bg. Even when running it later.15:49
Trevinhonot sure it's better or not -_-15:49
seb128Laney, nice cat cover ;-)15:50
Trevinhoah, that's the 3.18 one though15:50
seb128still changing after loading :-/15:50
LaneyTrevinho: you mean nautilus from git?15:50
seb128oh well, if it's not a regression at least no need to block the SRU15:51
LaneyTrevinho: nautilus -q; nautilus -n always fixed it for me15:51
Laneywith 3.2015:51
Trevinhomh, yeah... let me check that again15:52
seb128tedg, pitti, Laney, oh, unsure which train you are taking but most of the local ones have free wifi15:54
seb128just as a fyi, can be handy15:54
a1fagQuigs: no15:54
gQuigsa1fa: how are you doing show desktop?15:55
a1fashow desktop is on the unity menu bar15:55
a1fabut it would be same behaviour15:55
a1faas if you alt-tab show desktop15:55
a1faandyrock: show desktop is very useful feature when you need to toggle all windows15:55
a1fai personally dont like when clicking on multiple windows it brings the last active one15:56
a1fai'd rather get a selector window15:56
attenteseb128: Trevinho: for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1571640 what version of unity-greeter do i need to reproduce it?15:56
ubot5Launchpad bug 1571640 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Xenial) "unity-greeter scaling factor changes after a delay" [High,Confirmed]15:56
Trevinhoseb128: on xenial?15:56
Laneyseb128: is it easy for you guys to meet me at the station or should I get to somewhere else?15:56
gQuigshmm this definitely fixed it for me15:57
gQuigsa1fa: mind trying with a guest session?15:57
gQuigsa1fa: and you confirmed alt-tab -> show desktop has the same behaviour?15:58
Trevinhoattente: I guess on anything below 15.04.1+16.04.20160209-0ubuntu2 bug is there15:59
seb128Laney, station is easy enough, just let us know when you get in a train15:59
attenteTrevinho: what about unity-greeter?15:59
attenteTrevinho: i only have 16.04.2-0ubuntu1 as a candidate there15:59
Trevinhoattente: I don't think there's an update on the greeter16:00
seb128Trevinho, what xenial? the greeter issue?16:00
Trevinhoah... actually there is,16:00
TrevinhoHas it been sru'ed? :o16:00
seb128but doesn't seem to work anyway16:00
seb128L_aney tried on yakkety and it still scaling after loading16:01
attentei'm fully updated (with proposed) and can't reproduce16:02
seb128your xps isn't hidpi though?16:02
seb128it's a 1900x screen16:03
seb128not one of the new touch 3200x ones16:03
attenteseb128: you're teaching me so many new things about this laptop16:03
seb128anyway don't bother in any case16:04
seb128we didn't have an unity-greeter SRU to go with the u-s-d one16:04
Laneyseb128: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#unity-greeter might be an action for you though if you want it16:09
* Laney noticed it is stuck16:09
seb128good catch!16:09
seb128I've a feeling we had such issues before16:09
seb128is upstart unsupported on s390x?16:10
Laneyit's removed16:10
seb128like should we just delete the s390x binary from the release pocket?16:10
seb128u-g binary I mean16:10
Laneynot sure what happens with the next upload16:11
Laneyit probably has the same problem16:11
a1fagQuigs: not at all.. i need to take my kid to swim lessons, as soon as i get back, i'll give it a shot16:11
seb128well, at least britney doesn't block it then16:11
Laneyfor this one16:12
Laneybut it will build a package with broken depends next time again16:12
Laneyi bet it won't like that16:12
Laneyalso this means that upstart got removed without removing its reverse deps16:13
seb128right, that was screwed up, dunno who did that16:13
LaneyI think build-depends: upstart is going to be needed16:14
seb128we need xnox to fix/bring back upstart on s390x :p16:15
Laneywe're going to remove it completely next week16:15
seb128but yeah, other I guess that's a working workaround16:15
seb128k, deleting the binary meanwhile so get the updated version in16:18
seb128and on that note going to buy some food before the shop is closed16:18
seb128bbiab to read backlog before calling it a day16:19
TrevinhoLaney: indeed when nautilus is launched get_composited is false, then it becomes true.... That might cause some weirdness, but still I don't see what's wrong16:19
seb128have a nice w.e for those for leave before I'm back16:19
Laneysee you seb12816:26
Trevinhoanyone wants to have the pleasure of verifying https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1598770 ?16:27
ubot5Launchpad bug 1598770 in unity (Ubuntu Xenial) "Unity in low-graphics mode has animations and unneeded redraws" [High,Fix committed]16:27
TrevinhoLaney: also.... in that scenario it seems that the nautilus windows headerbar corners are black too...16:34
Trevinhoit's really like the window has not rgba visuals set16:34
Trevinhoalthough... it has them16:34
Laneyknew this would be a fun one16:35
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TrevinhoLaney: and..... it can be reproduced by16:36
Trevinhostop unity7; nautilus -n & sleep 1 && start unity716:36
Trevinhothe same issue happens in any window which is launched with unity not running... Also the calendar, doesn't get the corners once unity runs again16:39
TrevinhoI expect something in gtk code then16:39
Trevinho(i.e. replacing the command above with gnome-calendar)16:40
Laneygood luck Trevinho17:02
LaneyI'm off for now17:02
Laneysee you (in person for the lucky few)17:02
TrevinhoI'll hack for a while, but...17:02
Trevinhois there a sprint=17:02
seb128have fun Laney, see you sunday!17:03
seb128Trevinho, yeah, there is no way we could let you and andyrock to be the only ones having fun working :p17:04
Trevinhoright :)17:05
TrevinhoBut really sometimes we need to self-organize (if nobody does) small sprints around..17:05
TrevinhoMy home is in, I already said.17:05
seb128Trevinho, yeah, well for this one it's p.itti l.aney t.ed and I having 3 days to work on systemd for the user session at my place17:07
Trevinhoah cool17:08
a1fagQuigs: still here?17:28
a1fai think "minimize applications on click" is also a bit buggy17:30
Trevinhoattente: you're on verifying that bug?17:30
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attenteTrevinho: which bug?17:54
attenteTrevinho: the hidpi one i can't verify, the keyboard backlight is fixed though17:54
Trevinhoattente: ah I was thinking about the hidpi17:55
TrevinhoI'd go for verifying that anyway (seb128)?17:56
attenteTrevinho: i'm not sure if the new unity-greeter was uploaded to proposed anyways17:56
seb128Trevinho, we can't verify without unity-greeter18:03
seb128we just need to tell the SRU team that it has no regressions and to not block on it18:03
seb128but that's for mondat18:03
seb128they don't copy SRUs on friday18:04
willcookenight all, happy weekend18:10
ograhmm ... did anything regarding fonts change in xenial today ?18:31
* ogra just rebooted and everything seems to be smaller18:31

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