shakes808 | Good Friday morning all! | 13:15 |
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cmaloney | morning | 13:33 |
rick_h_ | morning | 13:34 |
shakes808 | thoughts about Windows OS as a service to corporations? | 14:26 |
jrwren | you mean like windows on EC2? | 14:29 |
jrwren | my thoughts on that phrase are: windows does a lot of things. focus on something smaller. | 14:30 |
shakes808 | Read today that they are going to charge corporations a monthly charge on top of licensing per user per month | 14:30 |
jrwren | hahhaha seriously? | 14:30 |
jrwren | that is great for alternatives. | 14:31 |
shakes808 | yeah. might push people over to linux / mac if they decide to bring that model to consumers | 14:31 |
shakes808 | exactly! | 14:31 |
jrwren | I don't think they will bring it to consumers, but it will push corporations off windows too. | 14:31 |
_stink_ | link? | 14:32 |
shakes808 | http://tinyurl.com/joz93bv | 14:32 |
shakes808 | was getting it :) | 14:32 |
_stink_ | :) | 14:32 |
jrwren | forbes. | 14:33 |
jrwren | its probably lies. | 14:33 |
jrwren | do you have a link that isn't forbes? | 14:33 |
shakes808 | HAHA. | 14:33 |
shakes808 | Will see if anyone is reporting on this | 14:33 |
shakes808 | http://tinyurl.com/jx76qvq | 14:34 |
shakes808 | haven't read this one, but came up in the search. | 14:34 |
shakes808 | more reputable? | 14:34 |
jrwren | barely, but its not forbes, so I'll read it. | 14:35 |
_stink_ | haha | 14:36 |
jrwren | “For the price of a cup of coffee and a donut per day," remember he lives in Redmond, so this is $30 | 14:36 |
shakes808 | haha | 14:37 |
jrwren | surface tablets as a services... leasing them. I'm surprised MSFT didn't have a corporate lease program previously. | 14:37 |
jrwren | I still don't understand this article. Was windows 10 not covered under previous volume license agreements? | 14:38 |
jrwren | or is it that they aren't licensing it to businesses outside of a volume license agreement? | 14:38 |
jrwren | its all so confusing, its another reason I prefer open source. | 14:38 |
cmaloney | I haven't seen any other articles other than the Forbes article | 14:43 |
cmaloney | so taking it with salt | 14:43 |
cmaloney | on a slug | 14:43 |
cmaloney | a forbes-shaped slug | 14:43 |
cmaloney | As soon as it hits Ars I'll take it seriosly | 14:44 |
cmaloney | (Forbes is in the same bucket as The Register: needs more proof, preferably from someone not at Forbes /The Register) | 14:44 |
jrwren | yup | 14:45 |
jrwren | forbes is terrible. | 14:45 |
shakes808 | gotcha. I guess it is something to watch for | 14:47 |
cmaloney | no worries | 14:47 |
cmaloney | I can believe MS is looking for more revenue streams | 14:49 |
cmaloney | and they've intimated subscription-based pricing with things liek Office | 14:49 |
cmaloney | probably because some offices want a more consistent month-to-month spread to budget | 14:49 |
cmaloney | So it makes sense | 14:49 |
cmaloney | but my theory is if it's true it'll get picked up to the point where you can't help but hear about it | 14:50 |
jcastro | I think a more saas approach is the way to go | 17:52 |
jcastro | if you have to pay X a month for windows then you don't have to be like "we want to stay on windows XP for ever." | 17:53 |
cmaloney | I'm not sure I follow that logic | 17:53 |
jcastro | if windows is a service then you get rid of version numbers entirely | 17:54 |
cmaloney | wI guess | 17:54 |
jcastro | so instead of a company paying you once a year they just split that to monthly payments | 17:54 |
cmaloney | So basically you're paying for terminal service | 17:54 |
cmaloney | instead of a PC on your desk | 17:54 |
jcastro | right | 17:55 |
jcastro | the world is moving saas, the desktop is just the last holdout | 17:55 |
cmaloney | I think that's a horrible idea | 17:55 |
cmaloney | but what do I know. | 17:55 |
jcastro | I'm not saying it's either good or bad | 17:55 |
jcastro | it's just how everything is going | 17:55 |
cmaloney | Yeah, getting sucked back into the mainframe | 17:55 |
jcastro | like, why would I buy quicken for a desktop when I can just subscribe to quicken? | 17:56 |
cmaloney | "sorry, PC revolution, we didn't really like you anyway" | 17:56 |
jcastro | nothing is immune to cost | 17:57 |
jcastro | If someone can sell you a service for a fraction of the cost then people will buy it | 17:57 |
cmaloney | It's all about control | 17:58 |
jcastro | right, and given enough savings, people will give that up in a heartbeat | 17:58 |
cmaloney | we're seeing the pendulum swing back to software being controlled so there's no piracy | 17:58 |
jcastro | it's like, sure, I'd like for my company's email server to be controlled in house, but is my local sysadmin going to even come close to what I can get with gmail or outlook for even close to that price? | 17:59 |
cmaloney | I find that line of thinking depressing | 18:00 |
jrwren | it IS depressing. | 18:06 |
jcastro | nah, it's just economics | 18:21 |
cmaloney | I tihnk it's just opportunity | 18:23 |
cmaloney | since folks are going to get sick of subscriptions | 18:23 |
cmaloney | or they're going to re-evaluate if they need said products | 18:23 |
cmaloney | cuts both ways | 18:24 |
cmaloney | like the reminder for my Linux Journal subscription | 18:24 |
cmaloney | a reminder "do I need that anymore"? | 18:25 |
cmaloney | and then I pay it because I'd like to see the $$ for the article on the Squeezebox that I wrote for them. | 18:25 |
jrwren | ha! | 18:27 |
jrwren | there is terrible. | 18:27 |
cmaloney | I got a SB Touch for review just before Logitech closed the line down so I'm content | 18:29 |
jcastro | I had forgotten about squeezeboxes! | 18:52 |
greg-g | I still use mine :) | 18:53 |
jcastro | I am doing a lot of YouTube Music lately | 18:56 |
jcastro | it's like what MTV used to be | 18:56 |
greg-g | heh | 18:56 |
jcastro | except with recommendations, etc. | 18:56 |
greg-g | is that a service or do you just mean "watching music videos on youtube"? | 18:56 |
jcastro | yeah but it filters out non music | 18:57 |
* greg-g nods | 18:57 | |
jcastro | so if you do "metallica" on normal youtube it will also put in other non-music | 18:57 |
jcastro | in youtube music you only get either the music and/or the videos | 18:57 |
jcastro | so it's easier to put on and just let it do it's mix | 19:02 |
greg-g | I'm still listening to somafm stations for work music :) | 19:02 |
jcastro | wow | 19:04 |
jcastro | https://www.shoutcast.com/ | 19:04 |
jcastro | I forgot that was still around! | 19:04 |
greg-g | lol, as their main page loads, it says "0 radio stations using our technology", then it finally flips to 72,846 | 19:14 |
greg-g | not really that important of a stat to regen each time and show 0 until it does, dudes | 19:14 |
jcastro | hah yeah | 19:15 |
greg-g | lol, second most popular station on their list: Alex Jones - Infowars.com Alternate/Relay | 19:17 |
cmaloney | I used to use my Squeezebox for Smart Mixes | 19:57 |
cmaloney | now I just put the whole collection on random-album | 19:57 |
cmaloney | Will never forgive Spotify for killing The Echo Nest | 19:58 |
cmaloney | I already have a music-buying problem. I don't need to know about more music out there. :) | 20:01 |
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