[13:15] Good Friday morning all! [13:33] morning [13:34] morning [14:26] thoughts about Windows OS as a service to corporations? [14:29] you mean like windows on EC2? [14:30] my thoughts on that phrase are: windows does a lot of things. focus on something smaller. [14:30] Read today that they are going to charge corporations a monthly charge on top of licensing per user per month [14:30] hahhaha seriously? [14:31] that is great for alternatives. [14:31] yeah. might push people over to linux / mac if they decide to bring that model to consumers [14:31] exactly! [14:31] I don't think they will bring it to consumers, but it will push corporations off windows too. [14:32] <_stink_> link? [14:32] http://tinyurl.com/joz93bv [14:32] was getting it :) [14:32] <_stink_> :) [14:33] forbes. [14:33] its probably lies. [14:33] do you have a link that isn't forbes? [14:33] HAHA. [14:33] Will see if anyone is reporting on this [14:34] http://tinyurl.com/jx76qvq [14:34] haven't read this one, but came up in the search. [14:34] more reputable? [14:35] barely, but its not forbes, so I'll read it. [14:36] <_stink_> haha [14:36] “For the price of a cup of coffee and a donut per day," remember he lives in Redmond, so this is $30 [14:37] haha [14:37] surface tablets as a services... leasing them. I'm surprised MSFT didn't have a corporate lease program previously. [14:38] I still don't understand this article. Was windows 10 not covered under previous volume license agreements? [14:38] or is it that they aren't licensing it to businesses outside of a volume license agreement? [14:38] its all so confusing, its another reason I prefer open source. [14:43] I haven't seen any other articles other than the Forbes article [14:43] so taking it with salt [14:43] on a slug [14:43] a forbes-shaped slug [14:44] As soon as it hits Ars I'll take it seriosly [14:44] (Forbes is in the same bucket as The Register: needs more proof, preferably from someone not at Forbes /The Register) [14:45] yup [14:45] forbes is terrible. [14:47] gotcha. I guess it is something to watch for [14:47] no worries [14:49] I can believe MS is looking for more revenue streams [14:49] and they've intimated subscription-based pricing with things liek Office [14:49] probably because some offices want a more consistent month-to-month spread to budget [14:49] So it makes sense [14:50] but my theory is if it's true it'll get picked up to the point where you can't help but hear about it [17:52] I think a more saas approach is the way to go [17:53] if you have to pay X a month for windows then you don't have to be like "we want to stay on windows XP for ever." [17:53] I'm not sure I follow that logic [17:54] if windows is a service then you get rid of version numbers entirely [17:54] wI guess [17:54] so instead of a company paying you once a year they just split that to monthly payments [17:54] So basically you're paying for terminal service [17:54] instead of a PC on your desk [17:55] right [17:55] the world is moving saas, the desktop is just the last holdout [17:55] I think that's a horrible idea [17:55] but what do I know. [17:55] I'm not saying it's either good or bad [17:55] it's just how everything is going [17:55] Yeah, getting sucked back into the mainframe [17:56] like, why would I buy quicken for a desktop when I can just subscribe to quicken? [17:56] "sorry, PC revolution, we didn't really like you anyway" [17:57] nothing is immune to cost [17:57] If someone can sell you a service for a fraction of the cost then people will buy it [17:58] It's all about control [17:58] right, and given enough savings, people will give that up in a heartbeat [17:58] we're seeing the pendulum swing back to software being controlled so there's no piracy [17:59] it's like, sure, I'd like for my company's email server to be controlled in house, but is my local sysadmin going to even come close to what I can get with gmail or outlook for even close to that price? [18:00] I find that line of thinking depressing [18:06] it IS depressing. [18:21] nah, it's just economics [18:23] I tihnk it's just opportunity [18:23] since folks are going to get sick of subscriptions [18:23] or they're going to re-evaluate if they need said products [18:24] cuts both ways [18:24] like the reminder for my Linux Journal subscription [18:25] a reminder "do I need that anymore"? [18:25] and then I pay it because I'd like to see the $$ for the article on the Squeezebox that I wrote for them. [18:27] ha! [18:27] there is terrible. [18:29] I got a SB Touch for review just before Logitech closed the line down so I'm content [18:52] I had forgotten about squeezeboxes! [18:53] I still use mine :) [18:56] I am doing a lot of YouTube Music lately [18:56] it's like what MTV used to be [18:56] heh [18:56] except with recommendations, etc. [18:56] is that a service or do you just mean "watching music videos on youtube"? [18:57] yeah but it filters out non music [18:57] * greg-g nods [18:57] so if you do "metallica" on normal youtube it will also put in other non-music [18:57] in youtube music you only get either the music and/or the videos [19:02] so it's easier to put on and just let it do it's mix [19:02] I'm still listening to somafm stations for work music :) [19:04] wow [19:04] https://www.shoutcast.com/ [19:04] I forgot that was still around! [19:14] lol, as their main page loads, it says "0 radio stations using our technology", then it finally flips to 72,846 [19:14] not really that important of a stat to regen each time and show 0 until it does, dudes [19:15] hah yeah [19:17] lol, second most popular station on their list: Alex Jones - Infowars.com Alternate/Relay [19:57] I used to use my Squeezebox for Smart Mixes [19:57] now I just put the whole collection on random-album [19:58] Will never forgive Spotify for killing The Echo Nest [20:01] I already have a music-buying problem. I don't need to know about more music out there. :)