[00:03] <matey> help!
[00:05] <k1l> !ask
[00:05] <nacc> !help | matey
[00:05] <nacc> heh
[00:07] <matey> *I am noob.* I am trying to compile a kernel without btintel but I compiled w/out networksupport>bluetooth subsystem> bluetooth devicedrivers>intel protocol but btintel still compiled thanks in advance for the hlep
[00:08] <nacc> matey: why are you trying to compile a kernel without btintel?
[00:08] <matey> conflict with broadcom driver
[00:08] <asunder> I installed ubuntu 16.04 via USB drive and now the USB drive no longer loads on boot (my laptop goes straight to grub). Any ideas? I haven't changed anything in the bios: USB is still first in the boot order.
[00:08] <gti> helo
[00:08] <nacc> matey: so just blacklist the driver?
[00:08] <nacc> !blacklist | matey
[00:08] <matey> hciuart still loads it
[00:09] <gti> ola
[00:09] <k1l> !br | gti
[00:09] <nacc> matey: blacklist hci_uart?
[00:09] <matey> need it for broadcom
[00:10] <nacc> matey: `grep BT_INTEL /path/to/your/kernel/.config/file`
[00:10] <matey> ty i will report back
[00:13] <matey> CONFIG_BT_INTEL=m
[00:13] <nacc> matey: afaict, you need to disable both "Intel protocol support" and "Intel AG6XX protocol support" for BT_INTEL to be off.
[00:13] <nacc> matey: right, it's not a visible simple in menuconfig
[00:13] <nacc> matey: so you'll first need to disable the two I just said (BT_HCIUART_INTEL and BT_HCIUART_AG6XX) and then disable BT_INTEL (and then run `make oldconfig` to ensure the changes took)
[00:14] <matey> Intel AG6XX? So i cannot menuconfig?
[00:14] <nacc> *symbol
[00:14] <nacc> matey: you could try with menuconfig for those two symbols
[00:14] <nacc> matey: i'm not usre it will automatically disable BT_INTEL just because it's not been 'selected', though
[00:14] <Guest56569> h
[00:15] <matey> TY will report back
[00:15] <media> anyway to get kodi on Ubuntu Mate?
[00:16] <nacc> !info kodi
[00:16] <nacc> well, they're already gone...
[00:19] <ohcrudohcrudohcr> I have an SSD with an enrypted installation of Ubuntu 16.04. Being stupid I deleted a 513MB parition at the begining of the drive and it wiped out the reference? to the LVM with my data on it. Please tell me this can be fixed. I don't care about the install I can redo I just want the data
[00:21] <ohcrudohcrudohcr> I'm running sudo gpart /dev/sda now and so far see Possible partition(Linux ext2), size(487mb), offset(1mb). How can I access the LVM? I had no idea the 513MB parition would affect the encrypted LVM.
[00:22] <frostschutz> ohcrudohcrudohcr, if it's just a problem with the partition table, testdisk might help you. can you show output of `sudo file -s /dev/sda*`?
[00:22] <YankDownUnder> ohcrudohcrudohcr: Might get some hints here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/588530/recover-the-directory-structure-of-a-lost-lvm-logical-volume
[00:23] <matey> is xconfig more detailed than menuconfig?
[00:23] <frostschutz> ohcrudohcrudohcr, deleting one partition should not affect the others, unless you decide to move/resize the other partitions as well (as gparted might do)
[00:25] <setuid> Anyone here good with preseeds? I'm having trouble getting the initial user's password working, so the machine builds, boots, and I can't log in.
[00:28] <MARYTK> HOLA
[00:29] <MARYTK> HI
[00:29] <setuid> mkpasswd -m sha-512 -S $(pwgen -ns 16 1) MySecretPassword
[00:31] <cocacola> hi
[00:31] <cocacola> did you know that mira mesa and El Paso Texas are the same?
[00:31] <nacc> setuid: you generally should not pass a password to mkpasswd
[00:31] <k1l> cocacola: this is a technical support channel. please keep it clear for support
[00:31] <cocacola> they're both almost 100% spy communities for the USA intelligence community
[00:31] <cocacola> I was "just worried" so
[00:32] <nacc> setuid: just run `mkpasswd -m sha-512`
[00:32] <nacc> setuid: what does your preseed stanza look like?
[00:32] <nacc> matey: no
[00:33] <setuid> d-i passwd/user-password-crypted password  {big hash here}
[00:33] <setuid> I also tried cleartext, that didn't work either..
[00:33] <setuid>  d-i passwd/user-password MyPass insecure
[00:33] <setuid> d-i passwd/user-password-again MyPass insecure
[00:34] <nacc> setuid: and you left the username as "ubuntu"?
[00:35] <setuid> Correct
[00:36] <nacc> setuid: i've only done it for root-password-crypted before, but it should work
[00:39] <ohcrudohcrudohcr> Thanks for the suggestions everyone. It was just a bug in Disks. It showed two empty partitions. I rebooted to a live CD and everything is fine.
[00:40] <matey> would like to disable CONFIG_BT_INTEL=m with pluma in my .config file what do i replace m with?
[00:42] <etereokiller> hi
[00:42] <etereokiller> alguien me puede ayudar con elastix
[00:43] <setuid> nacc, while this is building, another one for you... I can't seem to figure out a way to get preseed to work with a local .iso file + preseed (withOUT remastering the .iso)
[00:43] <setuid> I can only seem to get it working by pointing to my local Ubuntu mirror
[00:43] <setuid> HA! auth works now
[00:45] <matey> can i just hash it out?
[00:45] <ohcrudohcrudohcr> Is there a problem in a update being pushed out? I've updated two different encrypted LVM Ubuntu installations today and after rebooting all I get is a BusyBox prompt on both.
[00:46] <setuid> ERROR    Only one install method can be used (--location URL, --cdrom CD/ISO, --pxe, --import, --boot hd|cdrom|...)
[00:48] <nacc> matey: yes, you need to comment it out, but you also need to comment out the symbols that select it, which I already told you
[00:49] <nacc> setuid: i believe for a local iso image, you'd use --cdrom? or, you'd need to, as you said, put the preseed on the iso (really in the initrd of the iso, iirc)
[00:49] <matey> Thank you! I appreciate the help soon I will install my first custom kernel!
[00:51] <matey> nacc: AG6XX not found
[00:52] <nacc> matey: might not be there, it depends on other config options, possibly
[00:52] <matey> nacc: lets hope!
[00:53] <nacc> matey: you're technically !ot, so you may want to take this to ##linux or #kernelnewbies on OFTC
[00:53] <ohcrudohcrudohcr> Has anyone else with an encrypted Ubuntu installation had problems after installing Linux 4.4.0-28-generic?
[00:53] <matey> thank you will do!
[01:06] <setuid> hrmph
[01:06] <minimec> ohcrudohcrudohcr: running fine here.
[01:08] <setuid> nacc, Can I get your eyes on this one? http://paste.ubuntu.com/19440624/
[01:08] <setuid> it -should- use the preseed file, without remastering the iso, but it ignores it
[01:08] <setuid> This site with an almost identical commandline, claims it works: https://blog.jeffreyforman.net/2014/09/13/unattended-ubuntu-installs-part-2/
[01:10] <setuid> Wait, I think I have it now
[01:15] <Yin-Yang> hi
[01:18] <Yin-Yang> anyone here?
[01:19] <orlock> maybe
[01:20] <Yin-Yang> just thought i'd ask...
[01:21] <Yin-Yang> perhaps a convo starter, illuminati? who are they....
[01:21] <bazhang> Yin-Yang, this is ubuntu support only
[01:22] <ouroumov> !ot | Yin-Yang
[01:24] <setuid> So weird, it uses the preseed file, boots from the iso, but even with "apt-setup/no_mirror boolean true", it reaches upstream and downloads all the packages anyway
[01:24] <setuid> ...thus ignoring the packages in the iso
[01:36] <acovrig> I’m trying to setup MAAS and finally got clients to PXE boot, but they just hang at a login and I can’t find default credentials online anywhere...
[01:37] <setuid> Pretty straightforward, but you'd get better help in #maas
[01:38] <octacian> Well. Looks like my friend's computer is done. Replaced battery, still nothing. Computer just has black screen. Also part of the keyboard connectior is broken.
[01:38] <octacian> (bios/cmos battery)
[01:45] <Apachez> so any hints on how to troubleshoot the blackscreen and only mousepointer visible in 16.04 lts ?
[01:45] <Apachez> switching view alt+f7  alt+f1   doesnt work
[01:48] <setuid> ctrl-alt-f2
[01:48] <setuid> alt-rightarrow until you get back to X
[01:53] <Kirito> /media/makoto/Ubuntu$'\001'6.04\ LTS\ amd64 ubuntu, wtf are you doing?
[01:53] <Kirito> what kind of name is that?
[01:53] <mlamp_> who?
[01:54] <Kirito> I can't even get it to unmount because umount has no idea how to handle that filename
[01:54] <mlamp_> search in google
[01:55] <bndz> google is a great friend :)
[01:55]  * theskillwithin is so close to installing ubuntu, just cleaning up my hd so I can give it decent hd space.  my osx is taking up like 600gb of my 1tb hd 
[01:56] <user___> Hi
[01:56] <bndz> How does one go about registering a nick, I have used Mirc is it the same concept?
[01:57] <user___> I want know What is the best PC company supports Gnu/Linux Distros?
[01:59] <Kirito> I don't know how that comment was supposed to be helpful but it's a zsh bug it seems
[02:00] <mkultra> user___: system 76
[02:00] <user___> What about HP ?
[02:04] <mkultra> I'm not sure. I've seen support at the workstation/server level. not regular desktop support
[02:04] <mkultra> and it's usually limited to redhat
[02:06] <Apachez> Kirito: then unmount on the /dev ?
[02:06] <Apachez> supports in what way?
[02:06] <Apachez> like sponsoring?
[02:07] <Apachez> or support as in linux works on the devices?
[02:07] <mkultra> official device support
[02:08] <mkultra> like hp providing linux drivers for let's say ubuntu
[02:08] <squarecircle> ohai
[02:08] <squarecircle> I have an urgent problem: my laptop suspends every 10 seconds and I have no clue why
[02:09] <squarecircle> I checked the bios, but there are no settings to change for suspend behaviour
[02:09] <squarecircle> :/
[02:10] <setuid> I've google'd, no luck... : ERROR    Couldn't find hvm kernel for Ubuntu tree.
[02:10] <setuid> using virt-install to build a 14.04 machine on 16.04
[02:11] <setuid> This same exact command I'm using, works flawlessly on 14.04 to install 14.04
[02:12] <mkultra> maybe because being on 14.04 you already have all the prerequisites to build said machine
[02:12] <setuid> I should be able to build a 14.04 kvm node within 16.04 host
[02:15] <squarecircle> ok, now it works a bit, so no big problem momentarily
[02:15] <squarecircle> but it the system supended while booting
[02:15] <squarecircle> which is ridiculous
[02:15] <squarecircle> and I have no idea what's failing ...
[02:16] <mkultra> setuid: did you point it to the right iso local path, or url of iso?
[02:17] <setuid> mkultra, path to local iso
[02:17] <setuid> same exact syntax as what works on 14.04
[02:18] <ryclik_> I'm trying to set super+<number> to move between workspaces but the launcher is taking precedence and launching things. any hints :grin:
[02:19] <setuid> mkultra, Works when I point it to my local Ubuntu mirror and --location command
[02:19] <setuid> but I want it to use the ISO, not http
[02:19] <setuid> 14.04 uses version 0.600.4 of virt-install, 16.04 uses version 1.3.2
[02:20] <setuid> Probably quite a few differences between that delta
[02:23] <setuid> I'm injecting the preseed like this:
[02:23] <setuid> --extra-args "auto=true priority=critical netcfg/get_hostname=maas-test netcfg/get_domainname=maas netcfg/disable_dhcp=true netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.100.4 netcfg/get_netmask=255.255.255.0 netcfg/get_gateway=192.168.100.1 netcfg/get_nameservers=192.168.100.1 preseed/url=http://192.168.1.10/preseed.cfg"
[02:32] <mkultra> I doubt that's your problem. I think it's just isn't finding your iso
[02:34] <mkultra> you could omit that altogether to see if it spins up your vm. but I doubt that that's it
[02:35] <setuid> Hrm... but the iso is on local disk, and the path is correct
[02:35] <setuid> also, can't use --extra-args with --cdrom, but that's precisely the combination I need
[02:36] <setuid> Otherwise the preseed is no better than a manual, interactive install
[02:43] <isene> Something weird has happened to my gnome fonts, see: http://is.gd/api.php?longurl=http%3A%2F%2Fisene.org%2Fx%2F2016-07-15-042617_850x555_scrot.png [ http://isene.org/x/2016-07-15-042617_850x555_scrot.png ]
[02:43] <isene> I don't often use any gnome programs - just noticed this
[02:44] <isene> Any hints on how to debug this?
[02:47] <hrob> olah
[02:47] <mkultra> setuid: I think you either use location for url, or cdrom for local
[02:48] <mkultra> I could be wrong though since you said it worked in 14.04
[02:49] <setuid> I guess I have to remaster the iso
[02:49] <hrob> I created a bootable usb with Unetbootin and specified retentive space on it
[02:49] <setuid> I wanted to avoid that
[02:49] <hrob> yet it is somehow failing
[02:49] <squarecircle> well I'm off, bye :)
[02:50] <hrob> df -h reports that Im on a file system /
[02:51] <hrob> maybe I should try again writing with unetbootin... it was unusually slow on the retentive filesystem step
[02:51] <hrob> ok ill do that,
[02:51]  * hrob recommends himself to do something 
[03:02] <floam412> Hey guys, can anyone help me out setting up a vpn I bought through cryptostorm.is? Has anyone here dealt with them before?
[03:07] <Invisius> I need help with a black screen after GRUB, nomodeset doesn't work even on a working install from another system
[03:20] <theskillwithin> oh great just rebooted to try to install ubuntu from a external hd got error:
[03:21] <theskillwithin> No caching mode page found
[03:21] <theskillwithin> Assuming drive cache: write through.      then it just stops there an does nothing else
[03:21] <plop_its_ellie> theskillwithin, do you have a usb drive in the system?
[03:22] <plop_its_ellie> oh its external
[03:22] <theskillwithin> well its a usb hd
[03:22] <plop_its_ellie> how old is it?
[03:22] <theskillwithin> which I reformated and stuff, but hmm
[03:22] <theskillwithin> maybe like 6 years old
[03:22] <theskillwithin> WD my passport
[03:23] <plop_its_ellie> try installing it on your interlan hdd
[03:23] <plop_its_ellie> if you dont want to go all in head first then dual boot
[03:23] <theskillwithin> interlan hdd?
[03:24] <theskillwithin> I was using this method  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQIaDO9nR6Y
[03:24] <plop_its_ellie> internal
[03:24] <farsight> 1
[03:24] <plop_its_ellie> the external hdd could be failing too
[03:24] <theskillwithin> (http://www.etcg.pw/#vid  bootable drive maker for mac)
[03:24] <theskillwithin> I have a readynas on my network
[03:25] <Jerry_Smooth> Anybody configured a tor relay on 16.04 yet?
[03:25] <theskillwithin> hmm maybe i can just download the ubuntu iso and write that to the external hd?
[03:25] <Jerry_Smooth> if so pm me.
[03:25] <theskillwithin> piece of shit external hd
[03:25] <theskillwithin> god damn
[03:26] <theskillwithin> oops
[03:26] <theskillwithin> sorry
[03:26] <mladoux> Jerry_Smooth, probably the feds
[03:26] <plop_its_ellie> theskillwithin, you can just write the iso to a usb stick
[03:27] <plop_its_ellie> boot from there and install on your machine
[03:27] <theskillwithin> I know but I dont seem to have a usb stick around
[03:27] <theskillwithin> lol that were the instructions too for usb stick
[03:27] <theskillwithin> i guess my external hdd was a misatke
[03:27] <theskillwithin> I reformated the whole thing too for this, but i wasnt really using it anyways I have a newer external hd that uses firewire for backups
[03:28] <theskillwithin> I wish you could just use osx to write it to the partition directly =[
[03:28] <plop_its_ellie> you can use os x to make a bootable usb
[03:29] <plop_its_ellie> if you can then go to a nearby store and buy one
[03:29] <plop_its_ellie> usb sticks are super cheap
[03:29] <theskillwithin> well im going to be searching my whole house for an old usb stick now =\
[03:29] <Jerry_Smooth> Any suggestions for a terminal browser?
[03:30] <theskillwithin> wait....... why am i not using the iso, why am i using this (http://www.etcg.pw/#vid  bootable drive maker for mac) to make the usb boot install
[03:30] <theskillwithin> should i just forget about that and just use the iso?
[03:30] <theskillwithin> kinda odd tho cuz then why does the other one exist
[03:31] <plop_its_ellie> you can just use dd to make a bootable usb stick with the iso
[03:31] <theskillwithin> dd?
[03:31] <theskillwithin> oh maybe it just does the same thing as an iso burn, but just does it for you
[03:32] <theskillwithin> hmm ubuntu website has a seperate page for download for developers, so I would want that iso then?
[03:32] <reisio> it can
[03:32] <reisio> theskillwithin: link?
[03:33] <theskillwithin> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/developers
[03:33] <theskillwithin> oh its prob the same thing
[03:33] <theskillwithin> but I am a web dev, moving from osx to ubuntu so developer setup would be important to me
[03:34] <reisio> I would guess it's the same thing
[03:34] <reisio> at most, however, even if it weren't, it would merely have certain slightly different preinstalled packages and preconfigurations
[03:34] <reisio> nothing you couldn't get to from any other version
[03:35] <theskillwithin> also i noticed the thing i was using was downloading v 16, but the download on ubuntu is v 14
[03:35] <theskillwithin> 14 is stable, but meh iv been known to embrace the cutting edge so might want 16
[03:35] <reisio> if you're doing a new install, I'd go with 16, it's the latest major version
[03:35] <theskillwithin> ahh
[03:35] <reisio> no, Ubuntu has no stable branch
[03:35] <reisio> 14 is older
[03:35] <theskillwithin> oohhh i just noticed it is using 16
[03:36] <theskillwithin> so on osx, I use vagrant to run my websites like magento so i can develop locally.   ubuntu this might be more native maybe should use docker?
[03:36] <ucijp> 14 is mostly security updates at this point
[03:37] <reisio> theskillwithin: mostly personal preference I'd say
[03:37] <reisio> theskillwithin: I doubt you'd want to use hardware virtualization with either
[03:37] <theskillwithin> ahhh it all makes sense now I was prob using ubuntu 14 for my magento2 web servers and got mixed up about the versions
[03:37] <reisio> theskillwithin: both can use non-hardware virtualization stuff, though
[03:37] <Jordan-EVO> Ive locked my self out my VPS xD
[03:38] <reisio> Jordan-EVO: gj
[03:38] <theskillwithin> I think i used debian for magento 1, and before that centos
[03:38] <Jordan-EVO> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04
[03:38] <Jordan-EVO> I was following this then my ftp lost connection then i rebooted the server now i cant connect
[03:39] <theskillwithin> reisio very interesting, so maybe an added bonus here, as a web dev,  well I could just setup the web server locally on my system purley without vagrant?
[03:40] <theskillwithin> but well vagrant I kinda got to fool around with diff configurations and got to test configs before making changes on live, here all my changes would effect every site using either nginx or apache
[03:40] <theskillwithin> i just have no idea
[03:40] <reisio> theskillwithin: oh yeah; vagrant and docker are for the most part, as I understand it, frontends & glue for other more specific/rudimentary/simple technologies
[03:40] <theskillwithin> linux services should be a required class in college
[03:40] <reisio> heh
[03:40] <reisio> would be good if they exposed childrens to Unix systems
[03:41] <theskillwithin> if I was in charge I think every school would be at risk of swithcing everything to linux
[03:41] <reisio> but I don't suppose the financial lobbying of some OS companies would stand for it much :p
[03:41] <reisio> so anyway, if you're content with vagrant, no harm sticking to it; just avoid hardware virtualization with it
[03:41] <theskillwithin> I would also send a secret agent to film kim jun in north korea wth (graphic details left out here)
[03:41] <theskillwithin> I love vagrant, but... takes up a lot of space... also initial load takes a long time.
[03:42] <theskillwithin> so my default would be to stick with that to be on the safe side
[03:42] <theskillwithin> hardware virtualization?     i just use it with cli.  but idk what virtualization is
[03:43] <pezdispenser> Hi I've been looking to be able to stream my desktop as source, in for say, skype or in chatrooms,  apps for windows such as xsplit and manycam offer this, but for ages i cannot seem to get this for linux,  anyone know how to go about this
[03:43] <theskillwithin> im prob good on that area by the default settings
[03:43] <theskillwithin> skype is kind of innefiencent
[03:44] <sponix> pezdispenser: Check and see if there is OBS for Linux (Open Broadcast System)
[03:44] <theskillwithin> stream desktop source?
[03:44] <pezdispenser> yes,  stream my desktop instead of my webcam on skype etc
[03:46] <theskillwithin> oh dang thats a good question.  even recording.  on osx I use screenflow to record tutorials....  so maybe id get something on linux for that as well.  but streaming ur screen hmmm that would be cool.   there is no skype on linux? no teamviewer?      btw I am a fan of codekit paid plane you can interact dynamicly with people on that but not answer to ur q
[03:46] <theskillwithin> codepen*
[03:46] <plop_its_ellie> open boradcaster
[03:46] <plop_its_ellie> there is skype and teamviewer
[03:47] <theskillwithin> wow it does BOTH
[03:47] <pezdispenser> there is skype and teamviewer yes...
[03:47] <theskillwithin> AND ITS FREE?
[03:47] <pezdispenser> i wish to stream my desktop as source,  skype has the option to show desktop,  but i cannot stream my desktop on websites and chat rooms etc,
[03:47] <pezdispenser> im reading into obs
[03:47] <plop_its_ellie> theskillwithin, yea they are free
[03:47] <theskillwithin> what have I been doing my whole life
[03:47] <plop_its_ellie> though teamviewer has a paid tier
[03:48] <plop_its_ellie> and skype you are paying with your data
[03:48] <theskillwithin> I spend 8K on a mac pro desktop
[03:48] <plop_its_ellie> jesus crist
[03:48] <theskillwithin> if you do computer games lol skype chat is a disaster for voice lol.  they have better ways
[03:49]  * reisio reads up
[03:49] <plop_its_ellie> you can get something thats much better spec and up to date than a mac pro for a fraction of the price
[03:49] <plop_its_ellie> what a ripoff
[03:49] <plop_its_ellie> theskillwithin, theres discord and mumble
[03:49] <plop_its_ellie> as well
[03:50] <theskillwithin> YES
[03:50] <reisio> theskillwithin: vagrant (et al.) cover lots of "virtual" options; you wouldn't want the entirely unnecessary overhead (resources & space) of hardware virtualization, but some of the other approaches would be fine (lxc)
[03:50] <theskillwithin> before that it was teamspeak
[03:50] <theskillwithin> discord is the most recent one
[03:50] <theskillwithin> reisio  ahh
[03:50] <theskillwithin> if you run skype during your game, pretty sure you will lag
[03:55] <theskillwithin> dang so excited to install ubuntu and now cant find usb stick, and my external hdd doesnt work
[04:04] <theskillwithin> hmm ubuntu gives me amd download even tho i am on intel mac machine
[04:05] <reisio> theskillwithin: 'amd64' is the original (public) name for x86_64
[04:05] <reisio> you might well want a 64-bit x86 image for mac specifically, though, if there are such things
[04:05] <reisio> I'm afraid I don't follow mac media much
[04:06] <reisio> most likely any x86_64 image will technically suffice
[04:06] <reisio> but presumably the reason mac-specific images exist is because they are preconfigured to be more ideal for mac hardware
[04:06] <reisio> so...
[04:06] <orlock> And remove any requirement to right click?
[04:06]  * orlock ducks
[04:08] <reisio> site confirms either _should_ work
[04:08] <reisio> orlock: heheh
[04:08] <n3ss_> is it possible for ubuntu to use DNS in the same way that virtually every OS/linux distro is capable?
[04:08] <reisio> just got a new job, gave me a big mac, with a magic mouse
[04:08] <reisio> think I'm going to have to replace the mouse
[04:08] <reisio> never was a fan, still amn't
[04:08] <reisio> 's'okay I'm sure someone else will want it
[04:08] <reisio> n3ss_: sure
[04:09] <n3ss_> long story short: DHCP serves my local DNS server
[04:09] <n3ss_> local DNS server has entry for my.domain.com, pointing to a host on my LAN
[04:10] <n3ss_> ubuntu being the special snowflake takes about 2 minutes to resolve anything local after i first try to acecss it, if i'm lucky
[04:11] <reisio> theskillwithin: think +mac images may have been discontinued for being unnecessary (oblivious to plain amd64), but don't quote me on that
[04:12] <n3ss_> i configured /etc/nsswitch.conf to use DNS first but it hasn't changed the behavior at all.
[04:13] <reisio> n3ss_: not that here isn't fine, but #ubuntu-server, or even ##linux might have a higher percentage of users more familiar with such things
[04:13] <n3ss_> it's an ubuntu specific thing, i may try ubuntu-server but i am running on a desktop
[04:16] <reisio> n3ss_: yes certainly
[04:16] <n3ss_> i think i'm thinking of dnsmasq
[04:16] <reisio> it's just I think a lower percentage of people in here will have dealt with that, than in -server or ##linux
[04:16]  * reisio shrugs
[04:18] <n3ss_> fair enough. thanks
[04:21] <thingone> hello!
[04:21] <thingone> I need help with wine to run metatrader.
[04:22] <n3ss_> edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, comment out #dns=dnsmasq; restart NetworkManager
[04:22] <n3ss_> and it's fixed
[04:24] <n3ss_> just incase anyone wonders how to fix what i was just whining about
[04:25] <n3ss_> also apt-get purge dnsmasq-base
[04:26] <reisio> nice
[04:26] <reisio> for posterity ftw
[04:52] <digdeep> hi, could anyone give me some advice on this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/798791/ssh-disconnect-during-upgrade
[05:23] <oem> can someone help troubleshoot my optical audio?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !details | oem
[05:27] <oem> I am in 16.04 I plug in my optical cable, but there is no sound. pavucontrol sees it, but no sound
[05:28] <YankDownUnder> oem: What desktop are you using - the default Unity, or KDE or Cinnamon or Mate?
[05:29] <oem> K
[05:29] <YankDownUnder> oem: In the lower right hand corner of the screeen - in the system tray, you should see an icon that is for sound/audio - do you see that?
[05:30] <oem> yes
[05:31] <YankDownUnder> oem: And you've double-checked all of the "levels" for the different devices in that "control", yes?
[05:31] <anddam> I'm trying to run zerofree on a ubuntu vbox guest, I started single mode and tried to remount root in ro but keep getting "/ is busy", I checked http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/42015/mount-is-busy-when-trying-to-mount-as-read-only-so-that-i-can-run-zerofree the lsof suggested command only shows dhclient while fuser shows a lot of commands
[05:31] <oem> yeah
[05:31] <oem> 100%
[05:32] <anddam> question: is there a proper (and possibly straightforward) way to remount root in ro?
[05:32] <quizzy85> if that does not work open a termal and type alsamixer
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> !mount | anddam
[05:33] <oem> im in alsamixer
[05:34] <anddam> lotuspsychje: no mention of readonly
[05:34] <oem> s/pdif isnt muted
[05:35] <anddam> lotuspsychje: if it was intended as general introduction to mount that's too broad, I've been using linux systems for several years, I'm just new to ubuntu
[05:35] <anddam> actually I figure this is somehow related to systemd
[05:35] <anddam> that I'm not particularly fond of
[05:37] <prodix> hey
[05:37] <prodix> hey
[05:37] <pluckyduck> hi
[05:38] <quizzy85> ping oem
[05:38] <oem> `+
[05:38] <prodix> :p who are you
[05:38] <quizzy85> sorry afk
[05:38] <oem> maybe its my receiver?
[05:39] <oem> I dont think so tho
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> anddam: do you have other services that need to be stopped perhaps?
[05:41] <anddam> lotuspsychje: I'm figuring which one, I started single
[05:41] <Norbin> ubuntu 16.04, google chrome seem to always stay on top. if i have it open and then click on another open program icon from the taskbar, i can see in the background that the program "comes up" but chrome is still on top, kinda annoying.
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> anddam: some answers at bottom here: https://dantwining.co.uk/2011/07/18/how-to-shrink-a-dynamically-expanding-guest-virtualbox-image/
[05:42] <anddam>   lsof / | awk '$4 ~ /[0-9].*w/'     only shows dhclient
[05:42] <nanotaka> hi guys. I have a dumb question Id like some clarity on
[05:42] <anddam> that I'm not sure a) how to stop and b) why is it running since we're in single mode
[05:42] <Norbin> okey, always on top was checked. lol
[05:42] <Norbin> didn't know that's an option even
[05:43] <Norbin> finally, was SO annoying
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> nanotaka: ask in channel
[05:43] <anddam> how's the service for dhclient called?
[05:43] <nanotaka> My laptop is using 16GB of ram, however im not sure if im reading this correctly.
[05:43] <nanotaka> free -m
[05:43] <nanotaka>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[05:43] <nanotaka> Mem:          15963        9363         179         482        6420        5680
[05:44] <anddam> lotuspsychje: oh nvm,I stopped "networking" absolute shot in the dark and it killed the dhclient process
[05:44] <nanotaka> its free and available is different
[05:45] <Norbin> nanotaka: remember that all of your buff/cache is in a way also free.
[05:45] <anddam> and that free means basically "wasted"
[05:46] <nanotaka> oh, i understand. So rather just look at buff/cache in the future. Thank you guys very much
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> nanotaka: and with 16gig ram on ubuntu, you should not worry for nothing
[05:47] <quizzy85> nanotaka: wish i had 16gig ram on my lappy
[05:48] <Blue1> Why?  My servers run fine on 4G
[05:49] <quizzy85> Blue1: cause this oldie has only 1
[05:49] <nanotaka> its a TuxeDo. So other than that, it doesnt have a dedicated GPU and compiling drivers took some time.
[05:56] <Blue1> quizzy85: i run xubuntu on 1G ram.  You might look at a raspberry pi - they only have 1G of ram - about $50 -- works well.
[05:56] <Blue1> quizzy85: sorry - ubuntumate
[05:58] <stephen_ab> i want to reinstall ubuntu. Can I just change copy /usr/bin/apps directory to save to some hdd and move after reinstalling?
[05:58] <ax562> no
[05:58] <stephen_ab> why?
[05:58] <Blue1> stephen_ab: you need to save /etc/ and /home/ then go for it.
[05:59] <Blue1> I have re_install scripts that re_install stuff after doing a fresh install.
[05:59] <stephen_ab> i have to copy /etc/ and /home not /usr/bin/apps?
[05:59] <kali_yuga> anybody using Mate desktop enviroment?
[05:59] <Blue1> stephen_ab: no -- that is not wise.
[06:00] <Blue1> kali_yuga: yes
[06:00] <Blue1> kali_yuga: on a raspberry pi
[06:00] <kali_yuga> Blue1: is it good?
[06:00] <stephen_ab> can you give me the script? Blue1
[06:01] <kali_yuga> I'm thinking about switching from kde
[06:01] <Blue1> kali_yuga: I have only had 1 issue with it -- it won't perform lspci and therefore can't install chromium - but it's fine otherwise.
[06:01] <Blue1> stephen_ab: just a sec
[06:02] <Blue1> stephen_ab: http://www.pkill-9.com/simple-bash-script-re-install-programmes-fresh-linux-install/
[06:02] <stephen_ab> thanks mate
[06:02] <Blue1> stephen_ab: comment/uncomment what you need/dont need -- welcome
[06:04] <YankDownUnder> kali_yuga: "Mate" is quite all right - minimal - but has heaps of bells and whistles, too...not as much "eye candy" as KDE, but hey, it's all about what you feel the most comfortable with. There were issues earlier this year with the "panel" taking up heaps too much memory, but all of that has been fixed in upgrades. You can check in #ubuntu-mate channel for more information or for answers to questions...
[06:04] <Blue1> YankDownUnder: I do NOT like the new KDE --
[06:05] <Blue1> Yes we can take offtopic if you would like.
[06:05] <YankDownUnder> Blue1: Fair enough...and you've added the "backports" to get the latest Plasma 5.6.4 as well?
[06:05] <Blue1> yes
[06:05] <stephen_ab> and it sucks
[06:05] <stephen_ab> i have 5.6.5
[06:06] <Blue1> my biggest issues is that any programme I manually install, like chrome, I must go to /usr/share/applications -- copy the .desktop to ~/Desktop/ --
[06:06] <hateball> What issues with Plasma are you having that can't be solved?
[06:06] <stephen_ab> http://askubuntu.com/questions/798651/kubuntu-acting-weird-after-upgrading-to-plasma-5-6-5
[06:06] <Blue1> hateball: see above -- some programmes it won't let me add to the desktop -- I can only add it to favourites
[06:07] <Blue1> like gedit....and the nice little screen it used to have where all the stuff you saved to the desktop -- is now gone - there isn't much distinction between kde and xubuntu now.
[06:08] <stephen_ab> yeah
[06:08] <hateball> I am not sure I follow
[06:08] <hateball> Are you using Desktop view or Folder view, to start with?
[06:08] <Blue1> hateball: folder
[06:08] <hateball> Hands off that then :p
[06:08] <Blue1> otherwise -- I have an empty desktop
[06:09] <hateball> I use desktop view with a folder plasmoid that displays ~/Desktop
[06:09] <kali_yuga> I would like to do this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/install-mate-desktop-ubuntu-14-04-lts but I don't like adding repos actually
[06:09] <hateball> Blue1: The point with Desktop view is to add plasmoids, such as folder view, or various launchers
[06:09] <Blue1> kali_yuga: you should be able to download mate -- hang on a sec
[06:09] <Blue1> hateball: yup...
[06:09] <kali_yuga> I have 14.04 I know it wasn't supported back then
[06:09] <hateball> anyhows, I only use krunner for everything so probably poor reference
[06:10] <Blue1> you can get ubuntumate here:  https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[06:10] <Blue1> aah he left...
[06:12] <Blue1> kali_yuga: you can download ubuntumate here:  https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/
[06:12] <kali_yuga> Blue1: yes but then I need to reinstall everything. i was hoping for an sudo apt-get install mate-desktop or something ^^
[06:12] <Blue1> if you need the raspberry pi ubuntu mate -- that is on the rasperrypi.org site
[06:13] <Blue1> kali_yuga: you have mate, you have a re-install script - what more do you want?
[06:13] <kali_yuga> Blue1: I don't have an rapberry pi ^^
[06:13] <Blue1> kali_yuga: just make sure you copy /etc/ and /home/ first
[06:14] <Blue1> and I have scripts for that too.
[06:14] <kali_yuga> Blue1: copying my home folder would take forever
[06:14] <Blue1> kali_yuga: than just mount it as long as it is in a separate partition
[06:14] <Blue1> i have / in one partition, and /home in another partition
[06:15] <kali_yuga> my system is also lvm encrypted
[06:15] <Blue1> kali_yuga: I have not encountered that -- so I can't say - not of my systems are encrypted
[06:16] <kali_yuga> yes with lvm it's always a little more problematic
[06:16] <Blue1> yup -- but not impossible -- I use lvm for /home
[06:17] <kali_yuga> all my files are stored on my external. I can reinstall and put my files back on easily. but I need to download all my games from steam a.e again
[06:18] <Blue1> Yup...I don't do games -- Actually if they made a 4Meg video card -- I'd be peachy
[06:18] <Blue1> except for streaming hidef stuff now.  otherwise -- that would work fine -- I don't do any gaming.
[06:19] <kali_yuga> me neither lately
[06:19] <Blue1> I wonder if I still have any old pci video cards?  egads, I am old.
[06:20] <kali_yuga> your just using your raspberry pi?
[06:21] <Blue1> kali_yuga: yup -- again more video than I need -- I can't stream will with ubuntumate -- so I may go to kodi and see if I can get the mythtv frontend to work.
[06:22] <Blue1> I think the pi with an external hard drive -- would work well.
[06:22] <kali_yuga> Blue1: would annoy me over time to work with low specs.
[06:23] <Blue1> kali_yuga: ask I tell most of my clients -- your patience WILL be rewarded.  your impatience will be punished.  -- Alton Brown
[06:23] <hateball> Blue1: I'm still using the RPi B+ with an external drive, running Kodi since a few years back
[06:23] <Blue1> kali_yuga: try one - I think you'd be surprised
[06:23] <hateball> tho this is quite !ot
[06:23] <kali_yuga> well if you don't do gaming they're actually pretty neat. they have dual or quad core i think.
[06:24] <Blue1> hateball: i may have to hit you up later for some tips....
[06:24] <Blue1> quad
[06:24] <Blue1> i think I am more impressed what the pi does, rather than what it doesn't do.
[06:24] <pixel6692> Hello, is my system f****ng with me? I disabled checking for updates and every day at morning he shows me upgrades in that GUI window... I just like to do it manually, what can I do to totally disable it?
[06:24] <kali_yuga> Blue1: aren't they just 30$ or something ^^
[06:25] <pixel6692> kali_yuga: 35$ I guess
[06:25] <Blue1> kali_yuga: i think they are $35 or so.  I paid $50 for mine but it was assembled.
[06:25] <hateball> pixel6692: remove the update-manager from autostart, if it is there
[06:26] <kali_yuga> pixel6692: I think you can just remove the update manager or not
[06:26] <CantankRus> Also use kodi on Pi and use Kore app on android to control
[06:26] <Blue1> and I recommend spending the $3 or so for the mpeg2 decoder
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[06:26] <Blue1> CantankRus: ahhh nice
[06:27] <kali_yuga> oh sorry I though i was in offtopic lol
[06:27] <kali_yuga> t*
[06:28] <Blue1> okay almost pumpkin time for me -- night
[06:28] <Blue1> actually I think my brain is mush now
[06:29] <ptl> howdy, partners
[06:29] <ptl> how y'all goin?
[06:30] <ptl> can someone educate me on using an unity-like desktop in KDE? I have tried that a couple times in the latest years to no avail.
[06:30] <CantankRus>  howdy ptl , good of you to mosey on in here.
[06:31] <pixel6692> hmm apt remove update-manager wants to remove ubuntu-desktop soooo, I am not so sure about removing it :D
[06:31] <ptl> btw what's the difference between this new apt utility and apt-get?
[06:31] <pixel6692> Progress bar :>
[06:31] <ptl> besides that
[06:32] <hateball> pixel6692: just disable it from autostarting
[06:32] <ptl> is it correct to state that it is kind of a cross between apt-get and aptitude?
[06:33] <EriC^^> ptl: not really
[06:33] <EriC^^> it's more of a better looking more polished apt-get apt-cache apt.. into one package
[06:33] <pixel6692> I guess apt is just around apt-get
[06:33] <EriC^^> with colors and more features (progress bar etc)
[06:34] <pixel6692> or apt-<>
[06:34] <pixel6692> hateball: problem is I dont see it nowhere at autostart
[06:35] <ptl> never mind, found it via google/askubuntu
[06:35] <ptl> but the more pressing matter to me is the unity-like desktop in KDE. Anyone?:
[06:35] <CantankRus> pixel6692: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage so all your removing is a list of dependencies...no actual packages
[06:36] <hateball> CantankRus: problem is that it sets things to a manual state, so apt-get autoremove *will*
[06:36] <pixel6692> :<
[06:37] <hateball> pixel6692: could always find the binary and chmod -x :p
[06:37]  * hateball uses Plasma, does not know of Unity and its ways :/
[06:38] <pixel6692> :D
[06:38] <pixel6692> will try this :)
[06:38] <ptl> I am quite addicted to the Unity paradigm but I use mostly KDE software. So it would be somewhat advantageous for me to change
[06:38] <ptl> yakuake, kdenlive, k3b, dolphin, rekonq, besides many qt-based apps
[06:41] <ptl> pixel6692: I despise update-manager, usually I just use divert-dpkg to change its executable to /dev/null but lately Ubuntu has changed its way of notifying updates and everytime I do an apt-get update and the likes it annoys me notifying there are updates.
[06:41] <ptl> I mean dpkg-divert
[06:41] <pixel6692> I removed execute flag, so I will see :)
[06:42] <ptl> there is a new framework in place to take care of updates
[06:42] <ptl> layer over layer over layer
[06:43] <pixel6692> which one?
[06:45] <ptl> I do not recall. I found it out by fiddling with update-notifier and update-manager trying to disable the annoying notifications
[06:46] <pijush> is there any easy way to set the system audio at 24bit, 192000 hz
[06:49] <ptl> pijush: you mean to resample every sound going to the soundcard so that it physically outputs as 24 bit, 192 kHz, or setting a default sound quality for all sound software?
[06:55] <pijush> i'm not a sound expert, but i can say the feel the difference between normal dvd quality sound and studio(24bit,192) quality. I normally use studio quality in windows, so i want to configure the same for ubuntu as primary pc for web dev.
[06:59] <pijush> plt
[07:01] <ptl> pijush: is that me?
[07:01] <hateball> pijush: Are you looking to upsample things or what are you asking?
[07:01] <hateball> Audio will be played in whatever bitrates and such it contains
[07:02] <pijush> yes
[07:06] <pijush> @hateball yes upsample if is the right word. u may notice in the GUI of realtek typically win windows there is a format tab, where you can set the audio format.
[07:06] <hateball> Well you can change default rates for pulseaudio, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Setting_the_sound_card.27s_sampling_rate_into_PulseAudio_configuration_.283.2F5.29
[07:06] <pijush> thanks hateball
[07:07] <hateball> pijush: run "pacmd list-sinks" to display current values
[07:07] <pijush> thanks hateball
[07:11] <ptl> hateball: is that the only way? It seems to command-line-oriented to me. Isn't there a nice GUI for that?
[07:13] <hateball> ptl: no idea, I use what works
[07:13] <hateball> perhaps you can do it with pavucontrol, but I dont have it installed atm
[07:15] <ptl> I have it, no settings for that
[07:15] <ptl> I use what works too and I am a big fan of the command line. However I also often deal with linux newbies and I try to avoid suggesting text commands as much as I can.
[07:16] <ptl> to make things worst, I have limited experience with shiny and graphical applications due to my extensive shell usage for everyday tasks.
[07:34] <Kirito> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec#Mir_on_HW_Supported_By_Closed_Source_Drivers is this still accurate? Being that Nvidia has released drivers with support for DRM/KMS now, I imagine Nvidia should be usable with Mir (as well as Wayland in that regard), shouldn't it?
[07:35] <Kirito> http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverresults.aspx/100577/en-us ah, seems so indeed, interestingg
[07:39] <Kirito> ..maybe
[07:39] <Kirito> Seems support was added for it in theory, not sure if there are actual libraries available to hook into it yet
[07:40] <Kirito> For Wayland there seems to be, not seeing anything on Mir yet
[07:44] <Kirito> Well Mir still seems to be in the very early stages of development anyhow, maybe I shouldn't get too excited yet. Though I'm greatly looking forward to the day Xorg can be cast into oblivion
[07:46] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem that may or may not be related to Kubuntu specifically, but just in case I wanted to ask here. The problem is, after a fresh install of Kubuntu 16.04, I can't use German Umlauts anymore. When I try to type them in the terminal, they are printed as "??" and I can't open or save files with names that contain German Umlauts with LibreOffice (and presumably other apps as well, haven't
[07:46] <Mrokii> tried). Any ideas what could be wrong?
[07:48] <IdleOne> !locales
[07:48] <Mrokii> But I *can* use German Umlauts in LibreOffice and Dolphin, for example.
[07:48] <IdleOne> Mrokii: Look at the link ubottu just posted
[07:48] <Mrokii> IdleOne: I will, thanks.
[07:53] <theskillwithin> dang I try installing unbuntu and when I get into refind I go to install unbuntu, then I just get a black screen
[07:53] <theskillwithin> maybe it doesn't work with a firewire mac monitor?
[08:03] <theskillwithin> hmmm odd I tried installing ubuntu dual boot on my mac pro, but didnt work via usb  now using unetbootin and it appears to be installing it DIRECTLY to the partition while osx is running.  /me is scared
[08:05] <ARUCAL> Is Ubuntu working on Free Software Replacement for Apple's Siri or Microsoft's Cortana
[08:05] <ARUCAL> ?
[08:06] <Zardoz84> Some one can help me ? I have a really scary situation with a Ubuntu server, with a lot of process that are stuck on "uninterruptible sleep"
[08:06] <Zardoz84> including a postgress database
[08:07] <YankDownUnder> Zardoz84: Have you asked in #ubuntu-server yet?
[08:08] <Zardoz84> I don't know about that these channel, thanks
[08:12] <johnny90> Hi, Is there a way to add multiple tracker at once in transmission torrent client?
[08:13]  * YankDownUnder checks the topic of the channel again...
[08:21] <petereaston> Cool ubuntu channel
[08:21] <YankDownUnder> So cool it's cold. Yersh.
[08:28] <ARUCAL> Is Ubuntu working on a Free Software Replacement Personal assistant similar to Apple's Siri or Microsoft Cortana?
[08:30] <YankDownUnder> ARUCAL: Since the inception of "linux", I would tend to argue that most of the folks drawn to linux would prefer to "do it themselves", hmm.
[08:31] <ARUCAL> So do you know of anyone doing that?
[08:31] <YankDownUnder> ARUCAL: I think you may have misunderstood what I was getting at.
[08:32] <ARUCAL> Because I think that we (The Free Software Community) need to have alluring things of our own for people who are using proprietary software to make the switch.
[08:33] <ARUCAL> It would be cool if we could build a decentralised personal assistant
[08:34] <YankDownUnder> ARUCAL: Here's a great analogy of the whole thing: An Apple person buys a house. A Microsoft person rents/leases a house. A Linux user builds his house using his own plans with his own materials. Does that make sense?
[08:34] <ARUCAL> understood
[08:35] <ARUCAL> But also The Free Software Community shares houses
[08:35] <YankDownUnder> ARUCAL: Therefore, it'll happen when "AI" is dependent on complete decentralisation - when you can run your own "AI" in your own home, using your own machines, your own hardware, your own OSS/EFF software. :)
[08:35] <ARUCAL> that would be cool
[08:36] <ARUCAL> isn't this what proprietary companies tried in the 90s?
[08:36] <YankDownUnder> Proprietary companies - in the 90's - wanted to enslave the end-user and create a bloated market. Which they did.
[08:37] <EriC^^> !offtopic
[08:41] <theskillwithin> dude wtf apple, I cant install ubuntu dual boot
[08:41] <ikonia> please don't swear
[08:42] <ikonia> there is no need for it
[08:42] <cfhowlett> theskillwithin, keep it clean
[08:42] <theskillwithin> k
[08:42] <YankDownUnder> theskillwithin: http://www.howtogeek.com/187410/how-to-install-and-dual-boot-linux-on-a-mac/
[08:43] <theskillwithin> yea I did all that
[08:43] <YankDownUnder> theskillwithin: What about: http://askubuntu.com/questions/688632/dual-boot-mac-el-captain-along-with-ubuntu-14-04
[08:44] <cfhowlett> YankDownUnder, dual boot or take the easy way out: OSX + virtualbox + xubuntu or lubuntu.  My Dell Developer laptop got sick and I needed an immediate replacement.  Picked up a mac air and currently booted into Ubuntustudio via virtualbox.
[08:44] <theskillwithin> yea I did the crustil diasble thing too
[08:44] <theskillwithin> crutil disavle*
[08:45] <theskillwithin> refind seems to be working just fine
[08:46] <YankDownUnder> theskillwithin: As was mentioned, the Virtualbox thingo didn't appeal to you? Personally, on my MacbookPro, I run a bevy of different OS's in VBox...easier than dealing with dual-boot/bootcamp...but that's me...
[08:47] <theskillwithin> hmm intersting
[08:47] <theskillwithin> https://i.imgur.com/4HUXVzu.png  so this is the only option in unetbootin
[08:47] <theskillwithin> but that is not my usb...
[08:48] <theskillwithin> that appears to my un trained eye to be the partition I just created, not the dusk3 usb drive
[08:48] <lyrise> #icloud
[08:48] <EriC^^> theskillwithin: what exactly is the problem you're having?
[08:48] <k1l> theskillwithin: apple does have dd too. use that.
[08:49] <theskillwithin> im starting to think my problem is unetbootin isnt installing it to my usb... but I used another thing earlier that did install it to my usb and same result idk
[08:49] <theskillwithin> dd?
[08:49] <YankDownUnder> theskillwithin: Use "dd" in the terminal. I've never had any issues with creating bootable USB's with unetbootin on OSX...
[08:50] <EriC^^> theskillwithin: linux seems installed already
[08:50] <EriC^^> theskillwithin: did you try refind to boot the linux efi file? (/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi or shimx64.efi)
[08:51] <YankDownUnder> Time to eat. Ciao.
[08:51] <theskillwithin> that must be unetbootin cuz that disk0s4 is a partision not a usb so it must have put it there
[08:51] <theskillwithin> and that was the only option in unetbootin
[08:51] <theskillwithin> disk0s4
[08:51] <EriC^^> theskillwithin: it could be, you never got the installer and installed linux?
[08:52] <theskillwithin> hmm
[08:52] <EriC^^> ?
[08:52] <EriC^^> did you ever boot a live session and chose install ubuntu?
[08:52] <k1l> isnt this about creating a ubuntu usb?
[08:53] <theskillwithin> i booted and chose every option in refind
[08:53] <k1l> because unetbootin doesnt install ubuntu as OS. its for making the live usb system
[08:53] <theskillwithin> I also booted using honding down option and selecting my usb, same result, i navigate to install ubuntu then black screen
[08:53] <theskillwithin> yea
[08:53] <LuiX> hi! my file manager stopped asking the password for an encrypted partition. any method to forget it?
[08:53] <theskillwithin> I used several methods to make my usb bootable
[08:53] <theskillwithin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQIaDO9nR6Y
[08:53] <EriC^^> theskillwithin: try dd as k1l suggested
[08:54] <theskillwithin> that method I have not used
[08:54] <k1l> theskillwithin: is the usb disk3?
[08:54] <theskillwithin> yes
[08:54] <k1l> that is not how a ubuntu usb looks like
[08:55] <theskillwithin> that was before I installed it, i used that command to determin which one to put it in
[08:55] <k1l> theskillwithin: i bet if you erase that partitions on that usb and make it a clean fat32 device the unetbootin installer will see it and make a pproper live ubuntu
[08:56] <theskillwithin> DANG, yes I was already trying that but i just had to close and repone unetbootin.  k1l  you were right!!!
[08:57] <theskillwithin> I just really hope that the problem isnt cuz I am using firewire montiro cuz I have heard of people who used hdmi monitor had to switch to vga to see the install
[08:57] <theskillwithin> thx!!!!
[08:57] <EriC^^> try with nomodeset in grub
[08:57] <EriC^^> !nomodeset
[08:57] <theskillwithin> yea I tried that once =\
[08:58] <theskillwithin> I gotta try this to see if it works now tho =]
[08:59] <theskillwithin> odd amd64? i am on intel I thought
[09:00] <theskillwithin> ill prob have to use nomodest in conjuction with this if it works anyways lol
[09:01] <ujjwal09> Hello guys
[09:01] <theskillwithin> =]
[09:01] <ujjwal09> I am need of some technical help
[09:01] <ujjwal09> Can any of you help me out?
[09:01] <theskillwithin> yes the idea is you just ask your question.
[09:02] <ujjwal09> Thanks
[09:02] <ujjwal09> Actually I installed Ubantu 16.04 last night
[09:02] <ujjwal09> And now I am copying my data from an external hard disk to Ubantu
[09:03] <ujjwal09> Data transfer speed was around 20-30 MBps initially but after 10-12 seconds it has fallen down to 1.6 MBps
[09:03] <ujjwal09> Please help me
[09:04] <archmonkey> hi, how do I auto-mount an internal hdd that usually starts unmounted on boot?
[09:04] <LuiX> how you doing folks. I have an encrypted partition which caja stopped promtping for the passphrase. it just mounts it as if it was a normal partition. any ideas?
[09:05] <LuiX> archmonkey, you can use the disk manager
[09:05] <hateball> ujjwal09: transfer speed will vary depending on the filesystem, as well if there are many smaller files instead of large ones etc
[09:05]  * theskillwithin starts googling frantically
[09:05] <ujjwal09> Actually the files are videos of 100-200 MB size
[09:05] <theskillwithin> dang that was a smart answer
[09:06] <theskillwithin> oh
[09:06] <ujjwal09> Are they small enough to slow down the speed?
[09:07] <hateball> ujjwal09: No, I was thinking rather in the <100kb range
[09:07] <hateball> ujjwal09: Is the external drive NTFS? Can you open the system monitor and see if your CPU is choking?
[09:08] <ujjwal09> hateball I am new to Ubantu
[09:09] <ujjwal09> I don't know any technical stuff about it
[09:09] <archmonkey> LuiX: I asked here because xubuntu channel is pretty dead but I'm on xubuntu. any idea how to automount drive on that?
[09:11] <theskillwithin> dang, appared to work,  i hold down option during boot.  select my usb drive.... it goes right into refind,  of which all options dont lead to booting my usb installer
[09:11] <theskillwithin> =[
[09:11] <emirk> hello
[09:11] <theskillwithin> maybe I should have no installed refind before this
[09:12] <ujjwal09> hateball you there?
[09:12] <theskillwithin> when it was done it did say something like oh you need windows boot... what the heck I am on osx
[09:13] <LuiX> archmonkey, try to run gnome-disks in the terminal, if not install via sudo apt install gnome-disks
[09:13] <theskillwithin> 10 hours trying to install ubuntu =[
[09:13] <archmonkey> LuiX: ty so much. will try
[09:13] <theskillwithin> there must be some like cli way to do it in like rescue mode when I access temrinal maybe idk
[09:14] <vinayak> hi
[09:14] <LuiX> archmonkey, once you have it, you search for a Menu entry that says "edit mount options"
[09:16] <sveinse> Can I override a package dependency? I'd like to install a package, but I don't want it to install one of its dependencies
[09:16] <sveinse> This is 16.04
[09:16] <vinayak> hi arooni
[09:16] <archmonkey> LuiX: there is no 'gnome-disks' in xubuntu default repos but there is gnome-disk-utility which I think is what you mean/is installed now-
[09:17] <archmonkey> LuiX: mount options are grayed out
[09:17] <k1l> sveinse: depency or recommends?
[09:17] <sveinse> k1l, depends
[09:17] <k1l> sveinse: and usually depencies have a sense. the program needs them
[09:18] <LuiX> archmonkey, i think it's the same, yes
[09:18] <sveinse> k1l: No, not always. Not on meta packages, such as ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-minimal and such
[09:19] <archmonkey> LuiX: mount options grayed out, tried unmounting disk, still grayed out
[09:19] <LuiX> archmonkey, I'm not an expert, but maybe you're clicking on the extended partition?
[09:19] <archmonkey> LuiX: yep figured it out had wrong partition selected
[09:20] <theskillwithin> is mounting a hard thing?
[09:20] <theskillwithin> ah
[09:20] <archmonkey> I'm relatively new to linux but not a total noob. but, if after 10, 20 minutes on google I can't figure it out I go ask irc
[09:21] <theskillwithin> I think they got the term from the animal word, in which mounting usually fails, esp with elephants
[09:22] <archmonkey> LuiX: thanks again
[09:23] <LuiX> anyone who knows about passphrases and how to make the file manager forget them?
[09:25] <lifelessi> ive got a question about gpg2. is this the correct channel?
[09:26] <theskillwithin> https://i.imgur.com/sMkOEoS.png   ok srsly........   The created USB device will not boot of a mac, insert into a PC , and select the USB boot option in the BIOS boot menu.  WHHYYY is this a mac program then?
[09:27] <jonnyjoe> hey guys, hoping someone can lend a hand with an exim config. i'm running exim4 on ubuntu14.04, and i'd like to foce exim to send from a specific IP address. i've read that i can add the 'interface' directive to 30_exim4-config_remote_smtp, but it's still defaulting to the IP address associated with my main interface. anyone have any hints?
[09:27] <theskillwithin> k1l https://i.imgur.com/sMkOEoS.png =[
[09:27] <k1l> theskillwithin: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[09:27] <k1l> use this howto. this works.
[09:28] <theskillwithin> I see that gives the same error
[09:28] <theskillwithin> meh ill try rebooting again lets see
[09:29] <k1l> theskillwithin: see the howto at the end. this is ok. apple seems to try to do everything to prevent other OS run on their hardware. see the point 7: press alt/option key on restart
[09:29] <theskillwithin> yea I have done this exact process like 8 times in this link
[09:29] <theskillwithin> the option key was far from the problem, used that with every other install method
[09:30] <theskillwithin> brb
[09:32] <Azus> Bonjour a tous
[09:33] <theskillwithin> this is what I got   https://i.imgur.com/6VPPeCr.png
[09:33] <theskillwithin> No caching mode page found,  ASsuming drive cache: write trhough
[09:34] <theskillwithin> lol dang idk everything is like oh this is just warning
[09:35] <theskillwithin> should i just try again and leave it open for like 15min see if something acctually happens
[09:35] <k1l> theskillwithin: that is not an error but a "info"
[09:35] <k1l> yes, booting the livesystem can take some longer than a regular boot
[09:35] <theskillwithin> maybe it just takes a long time to start the ubuntu install, and i just nned to wait?
[09:36] <theskillwithin> ok
[09:36] <theskillwithin> I feel like Im back where I started, I first started doing this with an external hd and thuoght oh it was cuz i used external hd instead of usb...  well that was the error i got... and I even went away smoked a cigg came back still nothing
[09:36] <theskillwithin> but this time I will be patient! and I will have hope!
[09:37] <theskillwithin> Lets hope next time I talk to you will be in unbuntu! off to paradise gentlemen
[09:37] <lifelessi> hi^^, im unable to import a private gpg key on ubuntu 16.04: http://pastebin.com/1bPPFgNG
[09:42] <Mathisen> lifelessi, sudo ?
[09:42] <k1l> no
[09:43] <k1l> lifelessi: "ls -al .gnupg/" and "ls -al .gnupg/private-keys-v1.d/" on a pasteservice please
[09:45] <lifelessi> http://pastebin.com/6Ww1DnZ8
[09:46] <k1l> the user is debmirror trying the gpg command?
[09:47] <leeyaa> hi
[09:47] <leeyaa> when doing release upgrade is it possible to automatically answer NO to all config files updates?
[09:48] <lifelessi> gpg is working but i need the key in gpg2
[09:48] <k1l> lifelessi: hmm, i thought it would be this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnupg2/+bug/1565963
[10:05] <lifelessi> but they write it was closed in April 2016
[10:12] <LeMike> hello. I am having a hard time with fsck. The drive is not broken but has some bad blocks. Ubuntu doesn't start in it's GUI anymore. So I take fsck / "fsck.ext4" and use the "-c" option to write bad blocks to a list. fsck yells at me that it cant read the next block. Why? I thought it will put it on the badblock list. What am I doing wrong here?
[10:13] <k1l> LeMike: you can run badblocks and see how much of there are there. and as a rule of thumb: if there are badblocks there will be more. so better get a new hdd
[10:15] <LeMike> damn it. I wish I couldve repaired that laptop. Just found it in the basement and wanted to use it as some kind of server at home. Thanks k1l - I try badblocks.
[10:16] <lifelessi> kil:  but they wrote it was closed in April 2016
[10:17] <HoloIRCUser4> Welcome Luka00
[10:17] <jamesp> hey guys
[10:17] <k1l> lifelessi: yeah. it was not the issue you have. your filepermissions look right on the private-keys-v1.d folder
[10:17] <Luka00> Hi HoloIRCUser4
[10:17] <jamesp> I can't seem to mount my USB and SD Card
[10:18] <jamesp> I keep getting error creating 'mountpoint' permission denied
[10:18] <HoloIRCUser4> All Ubuntu freaks here give me four reasons to switch to ubuntu
[10:19] <lifelessi> k1l: even rm -r .gnupg/ doesnt help
[10:19] <Luka00> what
[10:19] <LeMike> rofl k1l . I am in initramfs and I can't find the "mkinitcpio" (because I don't have badblocks there). Do you have a hint for that?
[10:20] <k1l> LeMike: use a live-usb
[10:20] <LeMike> rofl. sure. to easy xD
[10:21] <Luka00> does anyone know if this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1509723 is solved?
[10:22] <jamesp> can anyone help?
[10:22] <Luka00> same
[10:22] <jamesp> i tried to chmod 777
[10:25] <HoloIRCUser4> How do I customize ubuntu
[10:26] <HoloIRCUser4> Quit
[10:28] <HoloIRCUser4> !quit
[10:30] <HoloIRCUser4> !dharmender
[10:30] <Triffid_Hunter> LeMike: if you want to use old hardware witih bad disk, why not boot from USB and ignore the disk completely?
[10:31] <jamesp> I tried fdisk -l but everything is just "fdisk: cannot open "_____": Permission denied
[10:31] <jamesp> could this be why i cant mount on media?
[10:31] <HoloIRCUser4> jamesp: sudo fdisk - l
[10:31] <k1l> jamesp: use sudo in front of fdisk
[10:31] <jamesp> oh
[10:32] <jamesp> lol
[10:32] <HoloIRCUser4> Lol
[10:32] <k1l> jamesp: and since fdisk cant read guid partition tables, better use "sudo parted -l"
[10:32] <LeMike> That will be the last scenario Triffid_Hunter ;) I would love to use the given 256gb disk but a USB stick will also do.
[10:32] <HoloIRCUser4> k1l: guide for?
[10:33] <jamesp> how do  i mount manually?
[10:33] <HoloIRCUser4> *guid
[10:33] <joj[]> \q
[10:33] <LeMike> I've never done this or worked with those commands so it's a bit curiosity and fun to learn it too ;)
[10:33] <k1l> HoloIRCUser4: "gpt" its the new partiitiontable that can have more TB and more than 4 primary partitions.
[10:33] <HoloIRCUser4> jamesp: use mount
[10:34] <k1l> jamesp: sudo mount /dev/sdX /path/where/to/mount. make sure the path/folder is already created
[10:34] <LeMike> And it found the first bad blocks that I knew of \o/ works :) Thanks very much k1l !
[10:36] <jamesp> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/media/USB’: Permission denied
[10:37] <k1l> jamesp: sudo mkdir /media/USB
[10:37] <jamesp> thats what i did
[10:38] <jamesp> I have nfs shares mounted at /media/__ using autofs
[10:38] <jamesp> do you think thats causing problems?
[10:38] <HoloIRCUser4> Lol
[10:38] <HoloIRCUser4> Ya
[10:38] <Mrokii> Hello. I have written about a problem with my locale settings before. The symptom is that I can't write German Umlauts in bash/Konsole. They're printed as "??". But I noticed that the German Umlauts show up just fine when typed into a TTY. Does anybody know what the reason could be?
[10:40] <Luka00> someone with freeze random solved without using intel_idle.max_cstate=1 on Ubuntu 16.04?
[10:41] <Triffid_Hunter> Mrokii: konsole doesn't support utf8 afaik, try urxvt or similar
[10:41] <Mrokii> Triffid_Hunter: I'll try, thanks.
[10:43] <Luka00> Also yesterday I received the 4.4 kernel update. I rebooted but version 4.7 has been installed (uname -r) why?
[10:43] <lifelessi> k1l: ive tried for testing to set chmod -R 777 .gnupg but it desnt work... what does this agent is, where i get Permission denied
[10:43] <HoloIRCUser4> jamesp: login as su and then try
[10:44] <jamesp> okay i moved the nfs shares to /mnt/
[10:44] <jamesp> can mount usb now
[10:44] <jamesp> strange
[10:44] <Triffid_Hunter> lifelessi: chmod -R 777 is almost always a really terrible idea.. strace will tell you the exact thing it's barfing on
[10:45] <HoloIRCUser4> Try mount /dev/sdaX /media/USB
[10:47] <Luka00> hey why in channel linux appear this message: ##linux Cannot send to channel???
[10:47] <bazhang> !register | Luka00
[10:47] <HoloIRCUser4> Luka00: because there managers are critically mental
[10:48] <HoloIRCUser4> I got banned for no reason
[10:48] <Luka00> !register
[10:49] <bazhang> Luka00, #freenode for help with that
[10:49] <Luka00> my nickname is registered
[10:50] <OerHeks> Luka00, you didn't login then, 'Account: unknown'
[10:53] <Luka00> oh true
[10:53] <lifelessi> Triffid_Hunter: ok... but i dont know what to read from it :/ http://pastebin.com/AeQGjqey
[10:53] <Luka00> that careless
[10:53] <Luka00> now it's ok
[10:55] <HoloIRCUser4> How to configure grub
[10:55] <UExit> Hi
[10:55] <UExit> Exit from UE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!÷!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:55] <HoloIRCUser4> Anyone knows?
[10:55] <Luka00> poor France
[10:56] <HoloIRCUser4> France?
[10:56] <OerHeks> !grub
[10:56] <OerHeks> pretty good manual
[10:56] <HoloIRCUser4> No man not restore I said configure
[10:57] <k1l> HoloIRCUser4: use the scrips from grub2. the bot linked a help page
[10:57] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser4, and what do you want to configure then?
[10:57] <HoloIRCUser4> Like assigning passkey
[10:58] <Madhu__> Skyrock: ma
[10:58] <UExit> Exit from UE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!÷!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:59] <HoloIRCUser4> What was he trying to do
[10:59] <HoloIRCUser4> Lol
[10:59] <k1l> doesnt matter. dont mind the trolls. we focus on ubuntu support in here
[10:59] <Madhu__> Holo: what is the support x3100 m5 v3 kernel
[10:59] <theskillwithin> Finally got ubuntu to install!! woooo
[10:59] <theskillwithin> one problem when I restart I just get a purple screen of death
[11:00] <k1l> theskillwithin: apple hardware needs a lot of manual tweaks depending on the exact hardware.
[11:00] <lifelessi> Triffid_Hunter: read(4, "INQUIRE PINENTRY_LAUNCHED 1450\n", 1002) = 31 i think this cause the error
[11:00] <k1l> !apple
[11:00] <k1l> ah no, thats not it
[11:01] <theskillwithin> great...
[11:01] <k1l> theskillwithin: what hardware is it?
[11:01] <theskillwithin> well one thing said to hold shift at startup to enter grub, that didnt work
[11:01] <dancingd3mon> hey guys, Is there something similar to torsocks that I can use on ubuntu but with way higher speed?
[11:01] <theskillwithin> where then I could enter some apt-get commands at that point
[11:02] <theskillwithin> 3.5 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5,  32 GB 1866 MHz DDR3 ECC,  AMD FirePro D500 3072 MB
[11:02] <dancingd3mon> I have some routing issue to access some sites and installing tor and using torsocks seems to let me access it but with slow speed :(
[11:03] <juanonymous> is there an app like share it on desktop ubuntu, so i can easily transfer apps from computer to my mobile android phone?
[11:03] <theskillwithin> k1l  well I had to set nomodeset just for it to install, maybe that setting doesnt carry over?
[11:03] <k1l> !nomodeset | theskillwithin
[11:04] <k1l> yes, use that again in the grub (one time method on that page)
[11:04] <theskillwithin> how to get to grub
[11:04] <theskillwithin> do i even have grub lol
[11:04] <theskillwithin> I was told hold shift to get grub
[11:04] <k1l> is this apple hardware? power mac?  or such?
[11:04] <theskillwithin> maybe its shift and f3?
[11:04] <hateball> theskillwithin: left shift, yes
[11:04] <latemus> hey guys, this command is giving me problems, can u halp
[11:04] <Luka00> I have Uefi and I am not able to show GRUB menu
[11:04] <theskillwithin> i also see here,  sudo service lightdm start  after shift f3
[11:05] <Luka00> only with shift I know
[11:05] <theskillwithin> yea ubuntu forum links are all down
[11:06] <theskillwithin> sooo yea
[11:06] <HoloIRCUser4> latemus: which command?
[11:06] <Madhu__> Kill: May I communicate with you
[11:06] <theskillwithin> "Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance"
[11:06] <k1l> theskillwithin: uh, still? i thought they had it done already.
[11:07] <UExit___antipsyc> Hy
[11:07] <Madhu__> Smith: may I chat with oy
[11:07] <theskillwithin> lol well while i was occuring the problem I googled it on my phone and got that same msg so idk
[11:07] <latemus> dis one: http://hastebin.com/qazikucava.ini
[11:07] <k1l> Madhu__: just ask a specific question in here and people will try to help
[11:07] <theskillwithin> so booted osx and now im here lol
[11:07] <Madhu__> Kil:  Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3 series (quad-core) support kernel?
[11:07] <k1l> !guidelines | UExit___antipsyc stop that trolling or you get banned
[11:08] <k1l> Madhu__: use the general ubuntu kernel
[11:08] <Madhu__> Kil :It is not installing in x3100 M5 v3
[11:08] <theskillwithin> ok will restart brb, ill try shift   also will try shift + f3
[11:09] <Madhu__> Kil : supporting in x3100 M4
[11:09] <k1l> Madhu__: what is the exact issue?
[11:09] <Mrokii> Triffid_Hunter: Switching character encoding didn't help with the German Umlauts. Besides, somebody said that Konsole does support utf8, so that doesn't seem to be the problem. :-/
[11:10] <widgetphreak> neat... well... i got my IRC fix.... see you all agaim in five years
[11:10] <k1l> Madhu__: i dont see why that should not work. so we need very specific error descriptions
[11:10] <Madhu__> Kil : trying to install raid1. but showing raid1 readonly and permission is required to write on disk
[11:11] <k1l> Madhu__: so you got a raid configure issue. not a ubuntu kernel issue?
[11:11] <surgy> hello
[11:11] <UExit___antipsyc> Helo.  Where from
[11:11] <Madhu__> Kil; It is working on x3100 M4
[11:11] <surgy> how do i remove the windowsmanager all together, and use my computer in terminal only mode
[11:12] <theskillwithin> well i notice when I boot it doesnt go to osx or refind at all, maybe I should just resintall refind,  then maybe i can set the settings from there
[11:13] <theskillwithin> it just goes to purple screen automatically odd
[11:13] <count_> hi
[11:16] <ducasse> Madhu__: are you still trying to get that bios raid to work? you've been told here several times to use software raid instead.
[11:17] <Madhu__> Ducasse: No. trying to install software raid only. But it is new server and version 3
[11:18] <hexhaxtron> Can I have several .iso files in /boot/iso/ and have a menu entry for each of them in the GRUB menu?
[11:18] <ducasse> Madhu__: pastebin errors/logs and post the link. you could also try #ubuntu-server.
[11:19] <surgy> if im not using a windows manager can i configure autologin?
[11:22] <antonispgs> http://imgur.com/OIlnpKw this comes up on a fresh install on a dedi server after apt-get upgrade
[11:22] <antonispgs> any ideas what i should do?
[11:23] <lifelessi> k1l: the problem with pgp got every non root user ...
[11:24] <lifelessi> k1l: sorry gpg
[11:26] <HoloIRCUser4> I found some guest accounts in users file
[11:27] <HoloIRCUser4> How are they assigned when login as guest?
[11:27] <HoloIRCUser4> Anyone knows?
[11:29] <OerHeks> what users file, HoloIRCUser4 ??
[11:29] <HoloIRCUser4> Like guest-287D17, etc.
[11:29] <HoloIRCUser4> passwd file
[11:32] <OerHeks> normally guest accounts are removes when logging out. sounds like you didn't close that guest sessions proper
[11:32] <OerHeks> c/removed
[11:33] <HoloIRCUser4> What I think they are for maintai
[11:35] <HoloIRCUser4> ning some identity
[11:36] <HoloIRCUser4> OerHeks: no they are always there
[11:37] <junaidali> Hi everyone, I'm new to LXDs, will there be any issues if i run an lxc in parallel to an lxd?
[11:37] <HoloIRCUser4> I see more than five accounts
[11:39] <HoloIRCUser4> Btw they are I think randomly assigned on login and not deleted.  But still I want to no if something is reserved from login of guest or why does it have number of accounts for guest
[11:40] <HoloIRCUser4> *know
[11:40] <HoloIRCUser4> Just to customize for some motive
[11:47] <deronnax> hello hello
[11:47] <HoloIRCUser4> Hmm
[11:47] <deronnax> I have started using ubuntu to deploy web sites in python+django using Uwsgi and Nginx
[11:47] <deronnax> and I would like to know, is here some ubuntu documentation on good practices regarding this ?
[11:48] <deronnax> where to put the code, which user to use
[11:48] <deronnax> where to put logs
[11:49] <ikonia> deronnax: all personal preference
[11:49] <ikonia> up to you
[11:50] <deronnax> it's not only personnal tastes, some choices can cause security issues
[11:51] <ikonia> it is your personal choice
[11:51] <ikonia> how you lay your filesystem out is up to you
[11:51] <ikonia> there are things like FHS - but no distro follows those to the letter
[11:52] <transhuman> Hi in all my years with linux and ubuntu/debian I never gave a thought to other users is there a way to make one of the desktops run as an anonymous guest while the other desktops might run as a different user (I know this is easy to do with qubes OS but hate it)
[11:53] <ikonia> the desktops run as who you login as
[11:53] <transhuman> so there is no add in that allows such thing...I am thinking how easy this is to do with OSX
[11:54] <HoloIRCUser4> Use OSX then
[11:54] <ducasse> junaidali: no, they don't "see" each other.
[11:55] <transhuman> My main problem is I want to index a website with the search engines and google has an anoying habbit of figuring out who is doing the indexing
[11:56] <Adie> How do I actually get ubuntu touch or ubuntu for tablets in a simple ez way?
[11:56] <HoloIRCUser4> Download it
[11:56] <Adie> where?
[11:56] <HoloIRCUser4> :P
[11:56] <OerHeks> Adie, join #ubuntu-touch for that
[11:56] <transhuman> forget it I will ask elsewhere...someone somewhere must have thought of making an add in for doing such a thing
[11:57] <HoloIRCUser4> You may Google for that
[11:57] <Adie> also
[11:57] <OerHeks> very helpfull answers, HoloIRCUser4
[11:57] <ducasse> transhuman: set up scripts to erase things like configs and caches on each login, for example
[11:57] <Adie> is the main desotop ubuntu bad for touch devices?
[11:57] <Adie> is ubuntu touch bad for laptops?
[11:57] <Adie> idk what I'm doing
[11:58] <HoloIRCUser4> U are trying to have Ubuntu touch on desktop Adie
[11:58] <junaidali> thanks ducasse: I have an lxc which should start a few services when it is created. If I create lxc when there are no lxds on the machine, it works as expected but the services inside lxc doesn't get started when that lxc is created while an lxd is also on the same machine
[11:59] <Adie> It's a laptop tablet hybrid HoloIRCUser4
[11:59] <Adie> it came with windows 10, but my pops doesn't like windows 10
[11:59] <Adie> idk what I'm doing
[11:59] <HoloIRCUser4> Pops?
[11:59] <Adie> uh huh
[11:59] <HoloIRCUser4> Father?
[11:59] <pseud> Yes
[11:59] <Adie> uh huh
[12:00] <Adie> I don't think windows 7 is the answer, so I'm looking at ubuntu, hoping it would be a good alternative
[12:00] <Adie> now sure where the tablet-like support is for laptops tho
[12:00] <Adie> like rotations, and multitouch
[12:00] <Adie> and the UI itself
[12:00] <pseud> While on the topic of parental PC's. Is there any guide to minimal work wrt. upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 ? Is there really no shortcuts to take ? I'll have to reinstall everything from scratch ?
[12:00] <ducasse> junaidali: odd. try asking in #ubuntu-server
[12:01] <junaidali> sure, thanks ducasse.
[12:01] <Adie> maybe there's an enviroment better suited for this than unity, idk :(
[12:01] <ducasse> junaidali: i just use lxc myself, don't know much about lxd.
[12:01] <Adie> that's why I'm lookin for help, I guess
[12:02] <HoloIRCUser4> Adie: depends on hardware support
[12:02] <HoloIRCUser4> Ubuntu touch compatibility
[12:02] <pseud> Adie: I'd try some distros and see if he likes it. Realistically I don't think there's any choice but Unity or Gnome 3 for a tablet-friendly experience
[12:02] <Adie> it's not listed in the certification page; it's a flex 3
[12:03] <ducasse> pseud: just wait 6 more days.
[12:03] <Adie> so it's one of those laptops that bends backwards for a tablet mode, disabled the back touchpad and keyboard,
[12:03] <pseud> (but yes, it all boils down to hardware support and if you're not that comfortable with Linux and you didn't research support before buying the PC, then it'll probably not end too well)
[12:03] <Adie> stuff like that
[12:03] <Adie> I have a feeling ubuntu won't do that
[12:03] <pseud> ducasse: wait 6 more days, for what ?
[12:03] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | pseud
[12:04] <HoloIRCUser4> Can Ubuntu be used with Arm v6 processors
[12:04] <HoloIRCUser4> ?
[12:04] <HoloIRCUser4> Known to anybody?
[12:04] <pseud> Won't do me much good, I'm at my parent's place now - not in six days.. :(
[12:04] <ducasse> pseud: then use 'do-release-upgrade -d' at your own risk.
[12:05] <hateball> !arm | HoloIRCUser4
[12:06] <pseud> ducasse: are there any "tips" when doing a reinstall. Such as getting a list of explicitly installed packages which I might use to speed up a new install ?
[12:07] <ducasse> pseud: you can use apt-mark to show packages marked as manually installed, but you might need to trim the list.
[12:07] <bobslaw-skillwit> success got ubuntu installed whooo
[12:08] <bobslaw-skillwit> can't seem to install irc tho haha
[12:08] <HoloIRCUser4> hateball: arm used in mobiles and raspberry pi as well
[12:09] <bobslaw-skillwit> I used textual on ios.    on ubunto  sudo apt-get install xchat      NOPE FAILE
[12:09] <pseud> ducasse: cool - I knew a variation of that trick. Just wanted to ensure there wasn't some obvious set of steps which I didn't know about :) But thanks
[12:09] <HoloIRCUser4> Is Ubuntu supported with raspberry pi.  Any version
[12:09] <bobslaw-skillwit> that was my 3rd attempt to install an irc program on my ubuntu =[
[12:10] <BlackDalek> today's ubuntu update killed my wifi. I'm using 15.10 Wily. I get no option to enable or disable wifi. It simply does not show up in the Unity network menu any more. The driver still shows up in additional drivers as being active.
[12:10] <ioria> bobslaw-skillwit, no xchat on 16.04, try hexchat
[12:10] <bobslaw-skillwit> and it was like packack xchat has no candidate, well google told me to do it
[12:10] <bobslaw-skillwit> ok will try that
[12:10] <ioria> !info xchat
[12:10] <ioria> !info hexchat
[12:10] <HoloIRCUser4> BlackDalek: service restart NetworkManager
[12:10] <bobslaw-skillwit> I have used xchat before,  textual was much nicer on ios =\
[12:12] <HoloIRCUser4> Or service stop NetworkManager and then with start option
[12:12] <bobslaw-skillwit> "zenial"?
[12:12] <Adie> bobslaw-skillwit, textual is probably the nicest GUI IRC client that exists :^)
[12:12] <Adie> but for windows and linux, we're stuck with hexchat
[12:12] <Adie> oh well
[12:13] <HoloIRCUser4> I'm connected from android
[12:13] <pseud> HoloIRCUser4: wrt R.PI - I don't think so, there's some excellent third-party images for raspberry pi, though https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi
[12:15] <Luka00> Hello people I try to see grub menu Ubuntu 16.04, I changed GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10 but not happen
[12:16] <Luka00> What I forget?
[12:16] <bobslaw-skillwit> dang cmd+c and cmd+v is no longer copy and paste in ubuntu?
[12:16] <ioria> Luka00, you have to comment that line with #
[12:16] <HoloIRCUser4> Hmm but it's not for zero version
[12:16] <minimec> Luka00: 'sudo update-grub' after such kind of changes... <-- What did i forget...
[12:16] <Luka00> ok only that line?
[12:16] <Luka00> i have done that minimec
[12:17] <ioria> Luka00, yes, and sudo update-grub
[12:17] <Luka00> ok
[12:17] <Luka00> I try and shift I think
[12:17] <bobslaw-skillwit> really did not expect copy and paste keyboard shortcuts to not work in ubuntu =\
[12:18] <HoloIRCUser4> Luka00: which file is this?
[12:19] <Luka00> what file?
[12:19] <Luka00> .../etc/default/grub
[12:20] <Luka00> ?
[12:20] <HoloIRCUser4> Ook I asked some relevant question before with this file
[12:21] <ne8cfl> hello I installed ubuntu but i can't get my nvidia drivers working. if I do a modprobe it tells me modprobe: "FATAL: Module nvidia not found." I installed the nvidia driver via sudo apt-get install nvidia-352 help pls
[12:22] <Luka00> I joined recently I have not read what you asked
[12:22] <bobslaw-skillwit> i guess ill haveto include that customization in my blog article on how to switch to ubuntu as a web dev, gotta set the basic copy and paste shortcuts.  hope my sublime text settings work tho
[12:22] <Luka00> I try I see you late :)
[12:22] <ne8cfl> why aren
[12:22] <ne8cfl> 't they working?
[12:23] <ioria> ne8cfl,  can you paste   sudo lshw -c Video ?
[12:23] <ne8cfl> they have worked before. but now after a fresh install nvidia drivers doesn't seem to work anymore
[12:24] <bobslaw-skillwit> I can't paste at all apparently unless I right click
[12:25] <gycklarn-> bobslaw-skillwit, Are you in a terminal? Wait, are you using a mac?
[12:25] <ne8cfl> yes here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/19487127/
[12:25] <ne8cfl> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19487127/
[12:25] <bobslaw-skillwit> I am now on my mac laptop as I gave up on ubuntu setup on irc and etc kind of laborious without copy and paste lol
[12:26] <bobslaw-skillwit> this isnt even my main nick
[12:26] <ioria> ne8cfl,   dmesg | grep -i chipset
[12:26] <gycklarn-> In a terminal (On a non-mac keyboard) you have to press ctrl+shift+v to paste
[12:26] <gycklarn-> No idea how it works on mac
[12:26] <ne8cfl> ioria: doesn't say anything
[12:27] <bobslaw-skillwit> oh ok one sec lemme try that on my desktop
[12:27] <ioria> ne8cfl,   try again, please
[12:27] <ne8cfl> ioria:: I did it just goes into next line :(
[12:28] <Luka00> It worked grub menu and I chose the kernel 4.4.31 ow how do I use it more instead of kernel 4.7 rc3?
[12:28] <freedrull> hi i accidentally expired the main user account (with usermod -e) and i can't login as root (the root account is locked by default) is there anything i can do?
[12:28] <bobslaw-skillwit> yep gycklarn- that worked to paste in ubuntu.... dang that is super laborious 3 keystrokes almost awkwardly placed compared to two on osx... idk
[12:28] <ioria> ne8cfl,   16.04 ?
[12:28] <ne8cfl> ioria: no 14.04
[12:29] <gycklarn-> bobslaw-skillwit, The thing is, ctrl+c and ctrl+v does other things in the terminal. ctrl+c for example is used to cancel an ongoing command
[12:29] <Luka00> I would not select every time the kernel to use but still have the 4.04.31 as default
[12:29] <ioria> ne8cfl,   have you added ppa ?
[12:29] <ne8cfl> ne8cfl: kernel version 3.13-0.92
[12:29] <ne8cfl> ioria: No I just installed
[12:29] <ne8cfl> And updated
[12:29] <ioria> ne8cfl,   can you paste ubuntu-drivers list   ?
[12:29] <bobslaw-skillwit> osx  its cmd+c  cmd+v
[12:30] <ne8cfl> next I wanted are the nvidia drivers
[12:30] <bobslaw-skillwit> those dont work in ubuntu
[12:30] <ne8cfl> ioria: ubuntu drivers list?
[12:30] <gycklarn-> Have you installed Ubuntu on your mac, bobslaw-skillwit?
[12:30] <bobslaw-skillwit> yes
[12:30] <ioria> ne8cfl,    ubuntu-drivers list
[12:31] <bobslaw-skillwit> also yea i do often use that ctrl+c on osx to cancel, very useful
[12:31] <gycklarn-> bobslaw-skillwit, I have little-to-zero experience with mac computers, but I would assume Ubuntu is not "supposed" to be used on a mac, which is why the keyboard shortcuts are different
[12:31] <ne8cfl> ioria: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/19487657/
[12:32] <ne8cfl> I installed 352.63 like before
[12:32] <bobslaw-skillwit> ok but srsly? 3 keys needed to copy and paste?
[12:32] <olivia_> excuse me, is the channil loged?
[12:32] <ioria> ne8cfl,    you update the kernel recently ...
[12:32] <hateball> olivia_: Yes
[12:32] <ioria> *ed
[12:32] <ne8cfl> It's like everytime I install ubuntu, it gets buggier and buggier
[12:32] <bobslaw-skillwit> ill be customizing it to use 2 keys I think
[12:32] <olivia_> hateball: do you know wher
[12:33] <hateball> !irclogs
[12:33] <ioria> ne8cfl,    nouveau was working right ?
[12:33] <olivia_> hateball: thank u <3
[12:33] <bobslaw-skillwit> even when I used windows (hated it) did not need 3 keys to copy and paste
[12:33] <ne8cfl> ioria: yes nouveau is functioning correctly
[12:33] <bobslaw-skillwit> this kind of thru me off... a curve ball I did not expect
[12:34] <ne8cfl> I think I still run it right now
[12:34] <ioria> ne8cfl,    no
[12:34] <ne8cfl> ioria: so what is wrong with my nvidia drivers ? you got a clue?
[12:34] <ioria> ne8cfl,    can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:35] <ioria> ne8cfl,    paste the file, then we try to purge nvidia and reinstall fron Additional Drivers
[12:35] <ioria> *m
[12:36] <bobslaw-skillwit> lol as a web dev keyboard  shortcuts are insanely useful, might have to switch back to osx where you only need 2 keys to copy and paste =[
[12:36] <bobslaw-skillwit> I memorized prob 50 keyboard shortcuts in sublime text
[12:37] <ne8cfl> ioria: thats a big chunk of text though http://paste.ubuntu.com/19488114/
[12:37] <ioria> ne8cfl,   oh... dod you use encryption ?
[12:38] <ne8cfl> ioria: Yes I did
[12:38] <ducasse> bobslaw-skillwit: tip: look into the difference between the x selection buffer and the clipboard, and programs like clipit
[12:38] <ne8cfl> ioria: before it was working to with the nvidia drivers
[12:38] <ioria> ne8cfl,   before .. what ?
[12:39] <bobslaw-skillwit> ducasse ok I will write that down in my notes
[12:39] <ducasse> bobslaw-skillwit: makes life _a lot_ easier
[12:39] <ne8cfl> ioria: before I reinstalled my pc
[12:39] <bobslaw-skillwit> does it make it more consistant
[12:39] <ioria> ne8cfl,  fresh install ? don't tell me ...
[12:40] <ne8cfl> ioria: thats the funny thing it's the second time. So what am I doing wrong here exactly?
[12:42] <ioria> ne8cfl,   you're using 3.13 very old kernel ... so you reinstalled from an old medium ,,, but this is not the point
[12:42] <ne8cfl> I need make a clean format. reinstalling doesn't do it somehow. problems persist and new ones appear
[12:42] <ne8cfl> ioria: I need this kernel. The 3.13 is the only kernel that works well with my pc
[12:43] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[12:43] <ne8cfl> ioria: once I had 4.x and it wouldn't boot up
[12:43] <ducasse> bobslaw-skillwit: when you learn to use it, yes
[12:43] <ioria> ne8cfl,   ok...   now, what you got a blank screen or you can login ?
[12:43] <ne8cfl> ioria: no no, everything's fine besides the nvidia drivers
[12:43] <bobslaw-skillwit> im not sure if that follows the definition of constant
[12:45] <ne8cfl> but I installed newer kernels from upgrading and they don't work. only kernel I got a positive result is the kernel i'm using
[12:45] <bobslaw-skillwit> its consistent then if you learn how do to the same task using a different method in diff programs
[12:45] <ne8cfl> with*
[12:45] <ioria> ne8cfl,    ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:46] <ne8cfl> ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[12:46] <ne8cfl> I looked there is really nothing in that folder
[12:47] <ne8cfl> i mean no xorg.conf
[12:47] <ioria> ne8cfl,    dpkg -l | grep nvidia-
[12:47] <ducasse> bobslaw-skillwit: look it up. i mark text with the left button, and paste with the middle or shift+insert. works everywhere.
[12:47] <ne8cfl> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19489071/
[12:48] <sveinse> ooi, why has the handy Ctrl-Alt-backspace function been taken away?
[12:48] <bobslaw-skillwit> shift+insert? that requires two hands to hit those buttons?
[12:49] <sveinse> uhm, yeah, this function is not something you do every day. In fact, as seldom as possible actually
[12:49] <ioria> ne8cfl,    we can try 2 things . 1) purge nvidia and reinstall from Gui,   or 2) try to configure Xorg (sudo nvidia-xconfig) and run sudo update-initramfs -u
[12:50] <ducasse> bobslaw-skillwit: there are two shift keys.
[12:50] <bobslaw-skillwit> thats true
[12:50] <bobslaw-skillwit> ok so now I have to learn completely diff shortcuts now, dang
[12:50] <ne8cfl> ioria: I installed from Gui before this install. over additional drivers. same thing happens. that's why I did it manually the second time.
[12:51] <bobslaw-skillwit> osx shortcuts were more intuitive
[12:51] <sveinse> bobslaw-skillwit: eh, are we talking about the same thing here?
[12:51] <ducasse> bobslaw-skillwit: look at clipit, it synchronises the two tways to do things, so you can use whatever you want.
[12:52] <ioria> ne8cfl,  sudo nvidia-xconfig     and     sudo update-initramfs -u
[12:52] <ne8cfl> I think I'm going to format everything again. install without inet connetion. and install the nvidia drivers first before anything
[12:52] <transhuman> ducasse I
[12:52] <ne8cfl> ioria: sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[12:53]  * bobslaw-skillwit writes down clipit
[12:53] <ducasse> sveinse: 'setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp' or enable it in an xorg.conf snippet.
[12:53] <transhuman> ducasse, I am able to start a new session under a different user using ctl+Alt+L...I setup an anonymous user (I could also use a proxy) but lots of proxys are blocked from such things
[12:53] <sveinse> ducasse: Yes, I'
[12:54] <transhuman> ducasse, but i think its anonymous enough under a differnet session for googles indexing purposes
[12:54] <bobslaw-skillwit> this is way more involved than I thought it would be, i mean I ssh into linux webservers all day but did not expect using ubuntu desktop to be so forgient.  I wish I could just make it more like osx lol
[12:54] <sveinse> ducasse: Yes, I've done that. But my question was why it as taken away in the first place
[12:54] <ne8cfl> My pc is not that good with linux anyway, cuz of nvidia-prime, uefi and secure boot stuff all there
[12:54] <ducasse> bobslaw-skillwit: thank god it's not, imo.
[12:56] <ducasse> sveinse: because most users didn't know about it, hit it accidentally and killed their entire session, i would guess. easy enough to enable, though.
[12:56] <bobslaw-skillwit> well shortcut keys are very imporatant as a web dev
[12:57] <HoloIRCUser4> quit the server
[12:57] <HoloIRCUser4> joined again
[12:58] <HoloIRCUser4> does not quits
[12:59] <bobslaw-skillwit> lol I was told the ux/ui was easy and CONSISTENT.   lies lies lies
[12:59] <ducasse> bobslaw-skillwit: i've never had an issue with copy/paste. you can't expect to switch os and keep exactly the same workflow/habits.
[13:00] <bobslaw-skillwit> windows and macos have very similar shortcuts for those, almost the same really
[13:00] <bobslaw-skillwit> 2 keys
[13:00] <bobslaw-skillwit> not 3
[13:00] <ne8cfl> well i'm going to reinstall again give it another try :(
[13:00] <ikonia> you're not using those
[13:01] <ikonia> some apps will respond to control +c / control +v
[13:01] <bobslaw-skillwit> and its not different shortcuts for different programs to copy and paste lol
[13:01] <HoloIRCUser4> bobslaw-skillwit: try Windows 95
[13:01] <ikonia> others won't
[13:01] <ikonia> there is the middle mouse button,
[13:01] <ne8cfl> this time without internet connection
[13:01] <Rumbles> hmmm anyone know if it's possible to change the chage warning message?
[13:01] <ne8cfl> and get the nvidia first before kernel upgrade
[13:01] <bobslaw-skillwit> HoloIRCUser4 dont patronize me
[13:02] <bobslaw-skillwit> ikonia middle mouse button? what do you mean
[13:02] <ducasse> bobslaw-skillwit: you don't understand anything i've said, apparently.
[13:02] <bobslaw-skillwit> i mean i know of this button but what are you saying it does
[13:03] <curlyears> No Joy )-:
[13:03] <ducasse> bobslaw-skillwit: mark text with left, paste with middle.
[13:03] <xpistos> Is there any thing special I need to do to enable a third monitor on my laptop? I am using one hdmi and one vga. if I select morror it shows all three. if I select extended it shows all three monitors in display but only two wor
[13:03] <ikonia> bobslaw-skillwit: hilight something - puts it in the bugge, middle mouse button pastes it
[13:04] <SnoopyDgg> guys, how do I execute this command on every Friday at 7 PM ''mysqldump -u root -p --all-databases --routines --triggers > alldb.sql' ?
[13:04] <HoloIRCUser4> !ot curlyears:
[13:04] <curlyears> I dd-ed the 16.004 install .iso to an 8GB USBThumb, rebooted, reset the boot priorities, etc., to point to the USB, rebnooted again, and never even made it thourhg the entire BIOS bootup procedure.
[13:04] <bobslaw-skillwit> ikonia THANKYOU finally some clarity
[13:04] <ducasse> SnoopyDgg: cron or systemd timers
[13:05] <SnoopyDgg> ducasse, I'm on ubuntu 14.04 which one is better?
[13:05] <ducasse> SnoopyDgg: then you only have cron
[13:06] <bobslaw-skillwit> that sounds so easy too, no need to even copy
[13:06] <bobslaw-skillwit> efficient
[13:07] <curlyears> it went so far as to inform me that it was "checking the DMI list . . . . . . . . . . .   <12 dots  and then hung for oever 2 hours.  I finall;y just turned it off again
[13:08] <bobslaw-skillwit> i get hungover for way more than 2 hours, not often then thankfully
[13:09] <SnoopyDgg> ducasse, but I couldn't find guides that teaches ow to do it on friday at 7 PM
[13:09] <bobslaw-skillwit> must sleep.  thankyou again ikonia  best answer to my issue
[13:09] <ducasse> SnoopyDgg: 'man 5 crontab'
[13:09] <curlyears> so, in despairation, I tried installing 14.04.4 again.  f few seconds after choosibng "install ubuntu" the screen goes blank, and about 10 seconds later, at the very top of the screen, I see "file not found: MkListRT not found
[13:12] <XFreud> zenmap
[13:12] <curlyears> and then the instal *SEEMS&* to go successfully (no errors or warnings)   I restart AGAIN.  Doe it boot?   NO, it hands me the "checking DMI list and 12 dots libne and hangs!  I am back under LiveDVD agaion   )-:
[13:14] <curlyears> can anyone explain any of this (Oh, one more thing, I ran the "check disk for errors" thing on the installer startup, it scanned the 14.04.4 DVD and pronounced it error free)
[13:16] <ducasse> curlyears: just a guess, but that sounds like a firmware/hardware/kernel issue to me.
[13:19] <thec0mand> has anyone come across this problem with Ubuntu 16.04 Xenial Xerus: after succesful installation, the machine powers on, asks for login, but then remains on the terminal and will not load into the actual desktop.
[13:20] <HoloIRCUser4> thec0mand: no
[13:21] <HoloIRCUser4> Did gui appeared for login?
[13:21] <xubuntu> hi
[13:21] <xubuntu> hi
[13:21] <DarthMoew> I have had gui appear, then unity fail to load, I did then run updates and it worked on 2nd reboot
[13:22] <Odd_Bloke> alexbligh1: o/ Did anyone help you with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/19489188/?  (This is probably a more appropriate channel for the conversation. :)
[13:22] <thec0mand> The GUI didn't appear. You know what, this is my first time downloading the server version of Ubuntu, and I just read you have to apt-get install the desktop.
[13:22] <Guest34788> hey everyone
[13:23] <DarthMoew> oh lol, server doesnt usually have gui :D
[13:23] <alexbligh1> Odd_Bloke, nope, but I think I now know what it is (roughly). /boot is full as it's been autoupdating somehow, but not rebooted, and that's left it with partially configured kernel packages, so its confused.
[13:23] <thec0mand> Odd_Bloke: I'll take a look at pastebin though.
[13:23] <Guest34788> do you know how to install pip through the terminal_
[13:23] <DarthMoew> sudo apt-get install python-pip ?
[13:23] <Odd_Bloke> alexbligh1: Yeah, that's the most common cause of that. :)
[13:23] <Guest34788> okey i gonna try ty
[13:24] <alexbligh1> Odd_Bloke, let me manually dpkg --purge stuff and see if I can resurrect it. Embedded system on the end of a piece of wet string to the internet ...
[13:24] <Singam> www.pazhanji.org for easier file transfer
[13:24] <Singam> hehehehehe
[13:26] <curlyears> to what end?ducasse:  I am running that very firmware and hardware right now, under LiveDVD.  Why would install .iso have faulty kernels?
[13:28] <ducasse> curlyears: as i said, just a guess. you are running live from the installer dvd, and that seems fine?
[13:28] <ollehar> hi!
[13:28] <ollehar> slight problem with apt-get/dpkg
[13:28] <ollehar> wanted to install wine, had to abort it, now it's stuck on downloading flashplugin-installer
[13:28] <ollehar> can I abort that somehow? everytime I do `dpkg --configure -a` it starts over downloading it.
[13:29] <curlyears> ducasse:  yes.
[13:29] <Singam> guys use pazhanji.org to transfer your files... we are non profit organization
[13:29] <Singam> www.pazhanji.org
[13:29] <ducasse> curlyears: nothing suspicious in dmesg?
[13:29] <ducasse> Singam: spam somewhere else, please
[13:30] <DarthMoew> non-profit chaos and anarchy promotion organisation?
[13:30] <Singam> wasnt spamming
[13:30] <Singam> just helping people out jesus
[13:30] <DarthMoew> so you are anti-chrisitian?
[13:30] <DarthMoew> helping people to out jesus :/
[13:30] <Singam> why why would u say that
[13:30] <DarthMoew> oh no, you're a trump supported, I see..
[13:31] <curlyears> I haven't checked dmesg.  Where would it be stored, if the HDDs are being used?
[13:31] <Singam> im not
[13:31] <Myrtti> guys, can you not?
[13:31] <ducasse> curlyears: run 'dmesg' in a terminal, it will show messages in memory.
[13:31] <DJones> Singam: This is channel is for Ubuntu support only, pleae don't post offtopic links
[13:32] <Singam> and i want to support ubuntu....
[13:32] <Singam> im not going to anyother irc group to advertise my server
[13:32] <DJones> Singam: People aren't likely to use an untrusted file sharing website
[13:33] <Singam> why not?
[13:33] <DJones> Singam: You need to get it recognised by the main search engine 1st
[13:33] <\9> !ot
[13:33] <Singam> do  you know how i can do that?
[13:33] <DJones> But its offtopic, not something that will be supported or allowed in this channel
[13:33] <Singam> but anyway you guys can use my server ..im not gonna steal anything
[13:34] <\9> Singam: we don't condone advertising in here
[13:34] <Singam> and please dont give www.pazhanji.org to anyone else... i dont want my server crowded
[13:34] <DarthMoew> where do you draw the line? :D
[13:34] <Singam> on what?
[13:35] <\9> seriously, cut it
[13:35] <Myrtti> Singam: please, stop already. We appreciate the sentiment, but your messages advertising your services are unsolicited and unwanted in this channel.
[13:35] <Singam> cut what?
[13:35] <Singam> alrighty then
[13:35] <Myrtti> thank you
[13:35] <Singam> no sorry my bad
[13:36] <SnoopyDgg> how do I add password to execute the following command in crontab? mysqldump -u root -p --all-databases --routines --triggers > alldb.sql
[13:36] <SnoopyDgg> If I do it mannually it asks for mysql password
[13:36] <SnoopyDgg> how do I enter it in crontab?
[13:37] <ducasse> SnoopyDgg: can't you add the password after -p?
[13:38] <Singam> if i wanted to send a file to somone here ... can i use my webservice ? or would that be considered as advertisemnt?
[13:39] <DJones> Singam: You could use your webservice, but its very rare here for people to send files, so would probably be ignored, most people just use pastebin or imagur etc
[13:40] <Singam> oww ok thanks for the info Djonses
[13:40] <ne8cfl> ioria: still there?
[13:41] <curlyears> My eyes are starting to cross reading the output of dmesg.  I i*DID* learn that this system is capable of 53,036 BogoMIPS
[13:42] <ne8cfl> I reinstalled again. I made an sudo apt-get update after reinstall. no upgrade, and installed the driver again with my old kernel 3.13.0-32-generic. Now it's working. I hope it will still work after I do my kernel upgrade
[13:43] <curlyears> what, exactly, am I looking for in the dmesg output, anyway?
[13:43] <ducasse> curlyears: the same errors you got while installing, or _any_ errors for that matter.
[13:44] <ne8cfl> k now that my nvidia card is working i might do an upgrade now.
[13:44] <curlyears> ducasse:  I think the errors encountered whilke installing occured prior to the dmesg log being instantiaterd
[13:45] <ducasse> curlyears: yes, but see if a normal boot has recorded any errors, then try to run the installer from the live session
[13:48] <alexbligh1> Odd_Bloke, fixed (thanks) after much fiddling.
[13:49] <HoloIRCUser4> I have some java file invoked and want to stdout the errors and exceptions to some file
[13:49] <HoloIRCUser4> Help please
[13:50] <Singam> HoloIRCUser4:  i can help bro
[13:50] <HoloIRCUser4> Bolo singam
[13:50] <Singam> cant you just print the exception dood? using System.out.println()
[13:50] <HoloIRCUser4> No
[13:50] <Singam> why not?
[13:51] <HoloIRCUser4> I require them to store in some file
[13:51] <HoloIRCUser4> Automation purpose
[13:51] <Singam> easy then you use Fileoutput stream
[13:51] <miesco> Hi.  Is there anyone here with over an 11 char nick?
[13:52] <EriC^^> miesco: why do you ask?
[13:52] <Singam> why miesco so that you can run your bot?
[13:52] <Odd_Bloke> alexbligh1: Great! :)
[13:52] <miesco> I just want to test something
[13:52] <\9> HoloIRCUser4: this is ubuntu support, ask java questions in the approprate channel, such as ##java
[13:52] <Singam> test your new bot bitch?
[13:52] <gantner> nick mrwoosley
[13:52] <gantner> oops
[13:53] <Singam> got your password hor
[13:53] <EriC^^> !language | Singam
[13:53] <Singam> what the
[13:54] <Singam> ok can i say this  "i will politely fuck you bitch "
[13:54] <\9> can you please quit being disruptive?
[13:54] <\9> guess not
[13:54] <DarthMoew> finally
[13:55] <setuid> I'm trying to create a preseed file for an automated install, and it works except the very first prompt for Language. Once I select that interactively, then choose "Install", the rest of the automation takes over.
[13:56] <setuid> I've passed locale=en_US in my kernel append line in isolinux/txt.cfg, and remastered the iso, didn't help
[13:56] <setuid> Has anyone managed to get this working? Suggestions from Google are not working
[13:56] <HoloIRCUser4> How do I redirect errors from commands
[13:57] <HoloIRCUser4> I asked that /9
[13:57] <SchrodingersScat> HoloIRCUser4: 2>/dev/null
[13:57] <\9> HoloIRCUser4: in bash? append 2>file to the command
[13:58] <fungmen> hai all
[13:58] <SchrodingersScat> HoloIRCUser4: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[13:58] <miesco> HoloIRCUser4: Okay thanks
[14:00] <curlyears> no errors found in dmesg
[14:00] <LuiX> hey there, I'm trying to revert a remembered encryption passphrase in the keyring, but I cannot see it on seahorse. Any ideas?
[14:02] <HoloIRCUser4> quit
[14:02] <HoloIRCUser4> exit
[14:02] <HoloIRCUser4> !quit
[14:02] <setuid> HoloIRCUser4, /quit
[14:12] <joker_> hello, I just want to know why I can't download any software in the softwarecenter
[14:13] <ne8cfl> joker_: really?
[14:13] <joker_> yes
[14:13] <joker_> I cat't figure out
[14:14] <ne8cfl> joker_: this really sounds odd. which version of ubuntu are u using?
[14:14] <setuid> nacc, You about?
[14:15] <ne8cfl> you might try reinstalling the software center but idk.
[14:15] <insandre> есть кто из Рашки ?
[14:16] <ne8cfl> ?
[14:17] <insandre> is there anyone from Russia
[14:17] <insandre> )
[14:18] <ne8cfl> insandre: we do speak english here
[14:18] <EriC^^> !ru | insandre
[14:19] <ne8cfl> I do an kernel upgrade now. hope my nvidia card will still work >:( buggy stuff always
[14:19] <insandre> horowo
[14:19] <epychan> hey
[14:21] <epychan> how is everyone?
[14:24] <epychan> hi boodllebat
[14:24] <boodllebat> epychan: hey
[14:24] <epychan> how are you?
[14:25] <boodllebat> epychan: why would you ask me that ?
[14:25] <epychan> isn't that a normal question?
[14:25] <boodllebat> epychan: i'm good
[14:25] <epychan> :)
[14:26] <ne8cfl> it did it again. I upgraded and my nvidia drivers aren't working anymore
[14:26] <epychan> i did have a question how long have you used linux for?
[14:27] <displayman> I'm having a problem getting my second monitor working on 16.04 with a nvidia quatro 600
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> epychan  this is the support channel, type   /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:27] <epychan> ahhh
[14:27] <ne8cfl> doesn't matter which way I do it as soon as I upgrade i'll lose my driver
[14:27] <epychan> are you using an amd card?
[14:27] <ne8cfl> no nvidia
[14:27] <Quatroking> hi
[14:27] <displayman> if I downgrade from nvidia 361 to 340 the display turns on, but it is limited to 800x600 resolution
[14:27] <Quatroking> i heart my name
[14:27] <Quatroking> partially
[14:27] <Quatroking> heard*
[14:28] <displayman> Quatroking: feel free to help ;)
[14:28] <ne8cfl> damn i can't do it here without my damn drivers. no idea what to do anymore
[14:28] <Quatroking> what do you mean by downgrade from a 361 to a 340?
[14:28] <displayman> Quatroking: the nvidia driver version
[14:28] <Quatroking> oh, right
[14:29] <epychan> weird
[14:29] <Quatroking> well I don't really think I can help you out here, the only nvidia card I got that's running linux (debian 8) is burnt
[14:29] <displayman> so much for quatro king :p
[14:29] <Quatroking> whenever I switch to the nvidia card my DM tends to warp
[14:29] <Quatroking> I know right
[14:29] <Quatroking> I'm a disgrace
[14:30] <epychan> wish i could help but i don't know how exactly
[14:30] <epychan> i would just research
[14:31] <displayman> I have been, everything I find is outdated or hacky
[14:31] <epychan> i had a similar problem but with an amd card while trying to get steam to work on 15.10 and 16.04lts
[14:31] <displayman> or usually both
[14:31] <ne8cfl> wait there are still there I'm running the intel card
[14:31] <ne8cfl> Error: alternatives are not set up properly
[14:31] <ne8cfl> Error: nvidia mode can't be enabled
[14:32] <ne8cfl>  prime-select query
[14:32] <ne8cfl> unknown
[14:33] <ne8cfl> >:(
[14:33] <stephen_b> is it possible to add separators in places in dolphin?
[14:34] <delcrtjp> hello,is it someone there?
[14:34] <epychan> im here
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> delcrtjp  type   /names
[14:34] <displayman> lolol
[14:37] <Guest11363> hey
[14:37] <delcrtjp> is someone can tell me if fl studiofrom. imageline can run with low latency under ubuntu studio?thanks
[14:37] <Guest11363> ya
[14:37] <therealtbe> does anyone remember where networking is configure in Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> therealtbe  12.10 is long dead
[14:38] <displayman> no support bro
[14:38] <therealtbe> I don't see anything in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:38] <therealtbe> so how is it getting this static IP address
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> therealtbe  upgrade first, then ask ag&ain
[14:38] <therealtbe> where is networking configured in 12.04 ?
[14:39] <therealtbe> where, other than /etc/network/interfaces, has networking ever been configured?
[14:40] <therealtbe> there is no dhclient running, and no network manager, and /etc/network/interfaces only contains the loopback, so how does it get its IP address?
[14:41] <displayman> are there any other channels i should try for help with this graphics issue? I'm lost here
[14:42] <therealtbe> if it's not running dhclient, and there is only loopback in /etc/network/interfaces, how is eth0 getting its IP address ?
[14:48] <curlyears> therealtbe: PAY ATTENTION:  you have been advised several times nowq that Ubuntu 12 is NO LONGER SUPPORTED.  You will need to upgrade to a newer version (16.04 is the latest) and try again.  If you still have troubles, come back and ask here.
[14:48] <displayman> I don't think I've ever seen this channel so dead
[14:48] <displayman> curlyears: the topic says 12.04 is allowed
[14:49] <curlyears> it is awfull;y quiet for 1934 Users
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  12.04 is supported until 2017
[14:49] <Pici> 12.10 is long gone though.
[14:49] <curlyears> MonkeyDust  mea culpa
[14:50] <displayman> and to be fair I'm on 16.04 and no one can help me either :D
[14:51] <curlyears> displayman:  the problm,e for 16.04 is that it is fairly new, and not as many knowledgabler users exist, as do for earlier versions.  There are all new bugs which may not as yet have been resolved.
[14:52] <irinix> why would 12.04 be supported but not 12.10 if 12.04 is older than 12.10?
[14:52] <displayman> yeah so we're both SOL...
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> irinix  because 12.04 is LTS
[14:52] <irinix> curlyears, I would blame Canonical's 6 month release cycle for that
[14:52] <curlyears> 12.04 is an LTS (Long Term Support) module.  10.10 is n ot LTS.
[14:53] <irinix> so *.04 is LTS, and *.10 isn't.  kk
[14:53] <curlyears> corect
[14:53] <therealtbe> why are you guys being so rude ?
[14:53] <therealtbe> if 12.04 is supported then tell me how networking is configured in 12.04
[14:54] <irinix> therealtbe, what have you tried?
[14:54] <therealtbe> I checked ps -ef  to look for dhclient, and I don't see it, or network manager
[14:54] <therealtbe> I looked in /etc/network/interfaces and only the loopback is configured
[14:54] <therealtbe> but somehow, eth0 gets it's IP address,  AND /etc/resolv.conf is overwritten on reboot
[14:55] <therealtbe> I checked in rc.local and a few other places to see if someone hardcoded the commands
[14:55] <irinix> what does ifconfig tell you?
[14:55] <therealtbe> umm, the IP address?
[14:55] <therealtbe> and the netmask...
[14:55] <irinix> so, what is the problem?
[14:56] <therealtbe> I fixed /etc/resolv.conf  and rebooted it and it was overwritten with incorrect information
[14:56] <therealtbe> Usually I have seen this when it is dhcp and it receives the dns server along with the dhcp lease
[14:56] <therealtbe> So I went to look to see if this is configured for static or DHCP.   I don't see either.  I don't see any config for eth0 anywhere
[14:57] <Myrtti> irinix, curlyears: not every .04 is an LTS. Even years are.
[14:58] <irinix> therealtbe, it might not be *exactly* your problem but it seems close, have you tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/394217/my-eth0-has-gone-and-i-dont-have-internet-and-network-connection ?
[14:59] <irinix> Myrtti, yet more confusion in the open source space care of Canonical
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> Would anyone here know how to make the compiz zoom plugin in Unity zoom using the scroll wheel?
[15:00] <Myrtti> irinix: not really. Ubuntu's LTS's have always been released on April of even years.
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> I cannot enter it using the ccsm gui as it does not grab the key stroke for scrolling
[15:00] <StatelessCat> 15T165315   irinix | so *.04 is LTS, and *.10 isn't.  kk » not every *.04 are LTS, 12.04, 14.04, 16.04 are. 11.04, 13.04, 15.04 are not LTS.
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> Ideally super+scroll
[15:01] <StatelessCat> SchrodingersScat: meow?
[15:05] <MemesOfMagic> :( Virtualbox is claiming that VM-x is disabled in BIOS, when it isn't
[15:06] <MemesOfMagic> VT-x even
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> MemesOfMagic  better ask in #vbox
[15:18] <curlyears> can anyone explain to me why an install "USB" for 16.04 won't boot, even when Boor  Disk Creator" claims to have written it without errors?
[15:19] <eric_> I'm brand new to IRC, just installed Smuxi and typed /join ##java, nothing happens though, any ideas?
[15:20] <curlyears> try /join #java
[15:20] <Lorcatar> Is it possible to get the ubuntu software center on lubuntu?
[15:21] <eric_> curlyears: Nope, nothing happens, I got ##java from the channel list
[15:22] <Myrtti> eric_: "Channel is blocking unidentified users (+r) and user is not identified"
[15:22] <Gazyrlezon> curlyears: won't boot as in "crashing while booting" or as in "doesn't even try and starts the normal OS"?
[15:22] <Myrtti> you need to register an account and/or identify to one
[15:23] <eric_> Oh ok, Ithought as I was logged into here it would be ok
[15:24] <eric_> Myrtti: Sorry about possible daft question, but how do I register?
[15:26] <Myrtti> eric_: /msg nickserv help register
[15:30] <curlyears> Gazyrlezon: sas in "steps throough the BIOS POST test, the BIOS startup  sccreen, and then hangs after displaying "Checking DMI pool . . . . . . . . . . . ." <- 12 dots.  Just hangs, no response to KB or mouse input.
[15:31] <Gazyrlezon> curlyears: Ah, okay. Sorry, no idea about that. Does anyone else have one?
[15:32] <curlyears> I got exactly the same response after supposed installing LTS 14.04. with no errors reported, and trying to boot that.
[15:32] <curlyears> weird, two different installer versions, two differentkinds of mass storage media, smae exact response
[15:35] <nacc> curlyears: this is before or after grub?
[15:35] <nacc> curlyears: i'm guessing hardware issue (RAM stick going bad, etc.) if DMI verification is failing (have you run memtest from the a live env?)
[15:36] <curlyears> nacc:  I am going to guess before grub.   I see no prompts, no messages except "checking DMI pool . . . . . . . . . . . ." (12 dots)
[15:36] <curlyears> nacc:  but Live DVD runs just fine
[15:37] <OerHeks> curlyears, you have this issue for weeks now, broken hardware
[15:38] <nacc> curlyears: some people recommend trying to run something like boot-repair for that issue (just glossing through similar issues): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:38] <curlyears> Oerheks:  we were all concuring it was a flakey PSU.  I have replaced the {SU with a much stronger one (800W), and even my back paenl USB ports work again
[15:38] <nacc> curlyears: coudl also be a buggy BIOS
[15:38] <curlyears> what is "Boot Repair?"
[15:38] <nacc> curlyears: i just provided you the link?
[15:39] <nacc> curlyears: using U/EFI?
[15:39] <curlyears> but I ran LTS 14.04.4 for 5 moonths with no problems.  The ubuntu pushed an update wqhich I accepted, after which my system crashed, and I havwe been having trouble after trouble ever since then
[15:40] <nacc> curlyears: an update to what?
[15:40] <curlyears> ues, UEFI.  Have to.  2 HDDs over 2 GB
[15:40] <curlyears> nacc:   various things, mostly to what appeared to be kernetl updates
[15:40] <curlyears> kernel
[15:40] <nacc> given people used TBs of disks before U/EFI, not sure how they are related (unless you mean specifically two USB drives)
[15:41] <TurboKraken> !wacom
[15:41] <TurboKraken> Anyone have any input for wacom?
[15:41] <sergioad> Heo friends
[15:42] <TurboKraken> Drivers, software, tablet versions, ect?
[15:42] <curlyears> All I know is that with UEFI I *CAN* get some functionality with it, and without UEFIJ I cannot.  ALso, there is a not in the BIOS setup page for UEFI that says it's requir4eed for disks over 2TB
[15:42] <sergioad> could I give you a little advice for everybody who plans to get a tomee USB NES dogbone controller?
[15:43] <curlyears> no, not USB drives.  Two internal, SATA connected 3 TB HDDs (with actual spinning platters in them)  10K RPM
[15:46] <kidn3ys> Anyone have any experience with exacqVision server? It seems to install just fine but won't pull the MAC address from the machine it's installed on, which is how it's licensed.
[15:46] <ducasse> kidn3ys: you need to ask the people who make it or sell it
[15:47] <kidn3ys> ducasse: they told me to kick rocks =/
[15:48] <ducasse> kidn3ys: then tell them their support sucks and ask for your money back
[15:48] <nacc> curlyears: sorry, internet hiccup at home
[15:49] <kidn3ys> ducasse: fair point.
[15:49] <curlyears> nacc:   NOT USB devices, real 3TB HDDs.
[15:49] <ducasse> kidn3ys: you could try #ubuntu-server, but they may tell you the same thing. that's the problem with proprietary software.
[15:50] <nacc> curlyears: didn't you just mention "mass storage" devices?
[15:51] <kidn3ys> agreed
[15:51] <curlyears> nacc:  yes.  2 3TB HDDs, one SATA BluRay R/WR, 1 500GB HDD, and 1 8GBUSB thumb involved.
[15:51] <OerHeks> curlyears, and without hdd attached, does the usb boot proper?
[15:51] <kidn3ys> was more looking to see if I could debug HOW it's trying to pull it
[15:51] <kidn3ys> ducasse: thanks for your suggestions
[15:52] <curlyears> I used "Create Boot Disk" utility to install the 16.04 installer .iso oonto the USB, and failed to boot the USB even though there were no error messages offered during the write procedure.
[15:53] <curlyears> The I tried to install LTS 14.04.4, again, installed wihtout error messagews.  Trid to reboot, got saame error message I got from USB boot attempt.
[15:53] <curlyears> When I boot off the VDV, I can successfully run LiveDVD 14.04.4.
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[15:54] <curlyears> DVD
[15:54] <ducasse> curlyears: did you install updates during installation?
[15:57] <curlyears> ducasse:  yes, but I did not choose to instal;l "third party software" because the last time I did that, it blew up whikle trying to install third party software
[15:58] <ducasse> curlyears: try without updates, then you get the package versions that are on the installer.
[15:58] <curlyears> *Sigh*   OK
[16:07] <HoloIRCUser1> Kisi ko kuch aata hai
[16:09] <HoloIRCUser1> Hi biella
[16:09] <partrob> Hi I am using xubuntu in my laptop which is installed in an ssd drive. I want to upgrade my firmware ubuntu I dont have tool to do that but I have windows installed in a normal disk. If I use the tool from from windows to upgrade the ssd will it damage my ubuntu ?
[16:09] <django_> hey which cmd tells me how many phantomjs instances i have open?
[16:09] <nacc> django_: ps aux | grep phantomjs | wc -l (roughly, might be +1 due to the grep itself)
[16:10] <OerHeks> partrob, unlikely, but how do we know??
[16:10] <compdoc> partrob, when you read the instructions, what did it tell you to do? Some ssd makers provide a bootable image to fash it
[16:10] <compdoc> flash
[16:11] <HoloIRCUser1> !ssd
[16:12] <partrob> compdoc: I have not started it I think the software is downloading image over the internet
[16:12] <LeMike> hello again. how can I see how much bad blocks my drive has?
[16:12] <partrob> transcend ssd they are only providing support for mac and windows :(
[16:13] <HoloIRCUser1> .
[16:15] <afx_> hello ! i am trying to install to use ati graphics vga . I have a fresh install of Mint 18 x64 . Can someone help me install drivers for it ?
 yeah its possible somebody already tried
[16:16] <django_> nacc, error: list of process IDs must follow p
[16:16] <Dermicool> !blocks
[16:16] <Dermicool> !block
[16:16] <nacc> django_: hrm, you ran `ps aux | grep phantomjs` ?
[16:17] <django_> nacc, workeed ty
[16:17] <nacc> django_: that's what i recommended before, so must have been a typo?
[16:17] <django_> yes
[16:18] <Dermicool> Anybody here knows how to make tamatar ki chatni
[16:18] <ducasse> !mint | afx_
[16:18] <Pici> Dermicool: try ##cooking, this is #ubuntu
[16:19] <partrob> Dermicool: I do but I cant on chat
[16:19] <ImJune> Hello
[16:19] <Dermicool> partrob: you Indian?
[16:19] <ImJune> How do I I echo the contents of /etc/services into a file to my home user directory
[16:19] <ImJune> I dunno the syntax
[16:19] <ImJune> I tried
[16:20] <partrob> Dermicool: Yes
[16:20] <Dermicool> Hahaha
[16:20] <partrob> :D
[16:20] <ImJune> sudo echo services > ~/ portsdoc.txt
[16:20] <OerHeks> cat /etc/services > ~/text.txt
[16:20] <nacc> ImJune: cat /etc/services > ~/portsdoc.txt
[16:20] <ImJune> is this a wrong syntax?
[16:20] <ImJune> oh ok
[16:20] <nacc> ImJune: yes, that's wrong, echo just echo's what you give it as input
[16:20] <ImJune> no need to echo
[16:20] <Pici> or just cp /etc/services ~/portsdoc.txt
[16:21] <ImJune> thank you
[16:21] <nacc> ImJune: also no need to sudo (afaict)
[16:21] <ImJune> ok
[16:21] <nacc> ImJune: in fact, i think using sudo would end up creating ~/portsdoc.txt as root:root (iirc)
[16:21] <ImJune> Im trying now
[16:21] <Dermicool> Pici: you Indian?
[16:21] <Pici> nacc: it wouldn't.
[16:21] <Pici> Dermicool: nope.
[16:21] <nacc> Pici: oh ok
[16:21] <Dermicool> Google translate is cool
[16:21] <Pici> nacc: well, it would if you used cp, but sudo doesn't cross io redirection operators otherwise.
[16:21] <nacc> Pici: ah ok
[16:22] <ImJune> yeah I love google translate
[16:22] <EriC^^> google translate loves you
[16:22] <ImJune> If wasnt for that my wife surely would have divorced me
[16:24] <EriC^^> !info linux-generic
[16:24] <ImJune> !info Eric^^
[16:24] <ImJune> oh man ha
[16:27] <adroit_machine> !cinnamon
[16:28] <ImJune> thanks for help
[16:28] <ImJune> time for sudo poweroff
[16:32] <Divorced> How do I take my package to Ubuntu SC
[16:34] <Divorced> Tell me quickly
[16:34] <EriC^^> .
[16:34] <EriC^^> it was that quick, it became a point
[16:34] <curlyears> No Joy.  I am still under Live DVD.  I installed 14.04.4 with no updates, and nno third party software, and I still get the same problem "Checking DMI list . . . . . . . . . ."  <12 dots>
[16:35] <Divorced> Shut up
[16:35] <Divorced> Seriously
[16:35] <rypervenche> Well, there goes help for him.
[16:36] <Divorced> I made a gui for some service interactivity
[16:36] <curlyears> Divorced:  we begin to see why you are a divorcee.  You need to hone you people skills a bit, d00d.
[16:37] <curlyears> So, any wisdom on my stupid inability to boot anything except Live DVD mode?
[16:39] <Bashing-om> curlyears: A thought: verify the copy ? .. in the boot options on the liveUSB is " check disk for defects" .
[16:39] <nacc> curlyears: is it a live DVD or a live USB?
[16:40] <curlyears> Bashing-om: have done repeatedly.  Indicates no errors found.
[16:40] <curlyears> nacc:  Live DVD.  I can't get a USB to boot correctly at all
[16:40] <nacc> curlyears: and you're installing to one of the HDDs? or to one of the USB drivers?
[16:40] <nacc> *drives
[16:40] <curlyears> trying to install to a 3TB HDD
[16:41] <nacc> curlyears: in the live DVD, does the installed system (that fails to boot)'s disk look like it's partitioned correctly? (UEFI partitoin, etc)
[16:42] <curlyears> I have to tell you, I feel damned foolish, being a retired software eningeer in this position.   I feel positively STUPID
[16:42] <Bashing-om> curlyears: Might be instructive to look at the partitioning on the hard drive(s): 'sudo parted -l' .
[16:42] <curlyears> nacc:  yes
[16:42] <nacc> curlyears: well, DMI detection isn't a software (traditional) issue; it's a hardware or BIOS one, if it's failing
[16:43] <nacc> curlyears: when you boot normally, your BIOS boot order is correct, etc.? Not trying to be insulting, just trying to think of things that might be going wrong
[16:44] <nacc> curlyears: could also be lose connectors (you've been doing some hw chnages it sounds like), it can be bios corruption (consider reset/reflash), can be hdd failure(s)
[16:45] <curlyears> OK.  I need some assistance installing a screen capture/upload utility.  I havent done so in months, and I don't remember how
[16:45] <nacc> curlyears: it *might* be interesting to see `dmidecode` output form the live dvd ... not sure if it'll actually show any problems
[16:47] <Bashing-om> curlyears: screenshot app, should be installed ny default on a standard ubuntu release . On my keyboad is " prt scrn ' key to activate .
[16:48] <curlyears> nope.  hitting "prit screen" key does nothing, with or without the "shift" key depressed
[16:49] <EriC^^> my computer is a billion times slower suddenly, opening music dir, using apt-get etc, dpkg seems to hang too or takes forever, it started while installing this ppa
[16:49] <curlyears> I want one that will automatically take the output of the CLI command I give it, and capture it, name it, and upload it with a single command
[16:49] <EriC^^> ppa:ravefinity-project/ppa
[16:49] <curlyears> I just can't remember the name of the doggoned thing
[16:49] <EriC^^> anybody had this happen to him or know any clues? trying ppa-purge now to see if it helps
[16:50] <nacc> !paste | curlyears
[16:50] <EriC^^> ppa source http://www.ravefinity.com/p/download-ambiance-radiance-flat-colors.html
[16:50] <nacc> !pastebinit | curlyears
[16:50] <curlyears> \pastebinit!   That's it!
[16:54] <EriC^^> i seem to have a jdb2/sda2-8 process that keeps coming up using the disk a lot, my hdd is on the way out i think btw
[16:56] <curlyears> dagnab it.   I am typing "pastebinit -i parted -l"  and it is acting like I am typing pastebinit -l
[16:56] <curlyears> what am I doing wrong?
[16:56] <nikolai> why hello there
[16:56] <curlyears> other than bothering all of you, that is
[16:56] <curlyears> nikolai
[16:57] <nacc> curlyears: pastebinit -i says to use the parameter as a file input
[16:57] <nacc> `parted -l | pastebinit` is what you want.
[16:57] <curlyears> nacc:  Ah, yes, now that you show me, I remember that  *doh*
[16:59] <curlyears> OK, here's my sudo parted -l  --->   http://paste.ubuntu.com/19514356/
[16:59] <curlyears> and what was that other command you offered. nacc?  (the second one)
[16:59] <joshkent_> hi there - does anybody know how to redirect physical attached keyboard strokes to a virtual VNC-session?
[17:00] <nacc> curlyears: you could try running `sudo dmidecode`, which should be reading the same DMI tables
[17:01] <nacc> curlyears: which disk is supposed to be the onyou had successfully installed to?
[17:01] <curlyears> nacc:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/19514668/   I believe sda
[17:03] <dancingd3mon> is there a way to set vpn  easily on ubuntu 14.04
[17:03] <dancingd3mon> I don't need to change all the connection but I need something that works same as torsocks do
[17:04] <dancingd3mon> like i write torsocks APPLication name and it works but kinda slow
[17:09] <curlyears> sorry, lost my connection...nacc:  I was saying, I believe I installed to sda.
[17:10] <user__> test
[17:11] <user__> ok it werks
[17:11] <curlyears> user:   you fail
[17:11] <curlyears> :p
[17:11] <curlyears> nacc???
[17:13] <curlyears> so, did anybody look at the dmidecode I posted, and can you offer an opinion?
[17:14] <nacc> curlyears: couple of questions come to mind; i'm not an expert, but my UEFI system at home as the small efi partition marked as 'boot, esp'
[17:14] <nacc> curlyears: not just 'boot'
[17:14] <nacc> curlyears: quick glance at man-page says esp is what indicates it's EFI (but not sure it's 100% necessary)
[17:15] <nacc> curlyears: some people have used a tool called the 'super grub rescue' disk to boot from dvd, find the grub installation on their hdd and then boot. That would at least verify the installation worked correctly.
[17:18] <curlyears> where dpo I gte "super grub rescue?"   apt-get?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> curlyears: if you want to reinstall GRUB then OMGUbuntu has a guide named "Sticking it to GRUB" which can help
[17:21] <nacc> curlyears: i found it quickly by googling, it's an iso image (afaict)
[17:21] <curlyears> I prefer nacc's suggestion, thanks, ActionParsnip.  I tend to have considerable trepidation and discomfort in messing with grub directly, I simply don't know enough about it
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Im not a fan of messing with Grub, I know some tricks but in general its fine. I dont use UEFI or secureboot or encryption or anything like that.
[17:22] <nacc> curlyears: you could also try the boot repair method i suggsted https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:22] <nacc> curlyears: (which afaict you might be able to run from the livedvd)
[17:23] <nacc> curlyears: earlier you said something about UEFI mode and disk size?
[17:23] <nacc> curlyears: why do you think you need UEFI for that?
[17:25] <nacc> curlyears: you may also want tot read the relevant secitons of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[17:25] <ikonia> dmi error .... = hardware error
[17:26] <nacc> ikonia: agreed; although apparently efi errors are also indicated by some bios as dmi errors (same time in post?)
[17:26] <ikonia> you will not be able to fix it with software
[17:26] <curlyears> nacc:  because A) the computer flat out wouldn't work right without it, and because I discopvered whebn I found the EFI selection option in Advanced BIOS Settings, that the BIOS requires it for >2TB disks (or so it claims)
[17:26] <ikonia> nacc: put it into legacy mode to test if possible, but it's going to be a hardware error
[17:26] <nacc> ikonia: good idea; but curlyears says they can't (due to the above disk issue)
[17:26] <ikonia> I doubt that
[17:27] <ikonia> even if it is a disk issue not using efi - you should still get a failed boot attempt
[17:27]  * nacc agrees, UEFI shouldn't change (aiui) the disk size supported, unless it's a really poorly written bios
[17:27] <ikonia> rather than a dmi error
[17:34] <curlyears> boot-repair is running now
[17:37] <curlyears> *wow* that utility takes a while to do it's thing...hopefully because it is being extrmeley thourough
[17:39] <ikonia> what utility ?
[17:40] <curlyears> https://thepb.in/p/58hgP46zlQocv
[17:40] <eric> hi
[17:40] <SingamReturns> www.pazhanji.org
[17:40] <SchrodingersScat> !spam | SingamReturns
[17:41] <SingamReturns> schrodinger's pussy
[17:41] <tortib> 180MB/s transfer over gige network, how is that possible?
[17:41] <SchrodingersScat> !ohmy | SingamReturns
[17:41] <Gustaw> fuck off
[17:41] <Gustaw> fuck off
[17:41] <Gustaw> fuck off
[17:41] <Gustaw> fuck off
[17:41] <Gustaw> fuck off
[17:41] <Gustaw> fuck off
[17:42] <tortib> The linux community is pissing off quite a few people
[17:42] <dax> tortib: don't start
[17:43] <tortib> dax, the elitism is bad and frowned upon yet you all do the same thing.
[17:43] <SchrodingersScat> tortib: afaik it should be around 125MB/s if it's 1000mb/s
[17:43] <cicdc> Is there a non-lts release channel for 16?
[17:43] <tortib> SchrodingersScat, yes I know, usually I get 100-115MB/s  but now i'm getting 183MB/s
[17:43] <dax> tortib: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support. Let's stick to that and not the theories, thanks.
[17:43] <curlyears> I am going to go re-boot and see it repair-boopt has succeeded.  It change a number of things
[17:43] <SchrodingersScat> cicdc: there will be at the end of october
[17:43] <tortib> dax, they're actually facts but you can continue to call them theories.
[17:44] <nacc> cicdc: do you mean for 16.10 ?
[17:44] <Codfection> whenever I plug in my external monitor (VGA) ubuntu screen distorts and Fn keys stop working !!!... ANy solution>>
[17:44] <Codfection> ??
[17:44]  * Fuchs licks dax
[17:44] <cicdc> for installing 16.04 now but so that I can upgrade to 16.10 when it arrives
[17:44] <nacc> cicdc: #ubuntu+1
[17:45] <tortib> Anyone knows why I have to switch to a TTY for lightdm to work properly when I first boot my system up?
[17:46] <tortib> Also trying to use gdm3 instead of lightdm causes my 16.04 to not even be bootable.
[17:46] <curlyears> Codfection: I'd have to opine the you have a hardware problem with the external VGA circuit
[17:46] <curlyears> in otherwords, "hardware, d00d"
[17:47] <Codfection> but in windows it works fine
[17:47] <nacc> tortib: what do you mean "not even bootable"? changing the DM shouldn't affect anything but hte graphics system
[17:47] <tortib> nacc, it freezes up
[17:47] <tortib> nacc, at the ubuntu loading screen while init is running
[17:47] <tortib> it just freezes
[17:48] <nacc> tortib: even if you hit Esc? or ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[17:48] <tortib> nacc, right
[17:56] <varaindemian> do you recommend choosing to install third party software?
[17:56] <jatt> absolutely
[17:57] <curlyears> dang!  I tired to continue, and it complained that grubb was still present, and suggested I try again, so it's running again.  *sigh* (against a different disk drive this time)
[18:01] <varaindemian> During installation: "Install third-party software for graphics and Wi-Fi hardware, Flash, MP3, and other media" Should I check this?
[18:01] <arsenic> yes, if you need it.
[18:02] <arsenic> You most likely do.
[18:02] <tortib> every time i select install 3rd party software it freezes up on me
[18:03] <varaindemian> arsenic: my graphics got detected. what else will ne installed?
[18:04] <boriseto> How do the snaps work actually? Like I have VLC installed via snap and apt, but it only shows the one with apt when trying to open a file?
[18:05] <arsenic> did you try the  additional drivers option ?
[18:05] <varaindemian> is it btrfs recommended for / partition if I have an ssd?
[18:05] <OerHeks> tortib, you are the only one, i guess
[18:06] <tortib> OerHeks, only one what
[18:06] <dax> varaindemian: no, ext4 is Ubuntu's recommendation for both hdd and ssd
[18:06] <tortib> OerHeks, it's this dang desktop it's buggy for some reason
[18:06] <varaindemian> dax: sad
[18:06] <dax> varaindemian: the third party stuff is http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/ubuntu-restricted-extras plus http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/ubuntu-restricted-addons I believe
[18:07] <dax> plus applicable non-free drivers
[18:07] <nacc> boriseto: may want to ask in #snappy
[18:07] <dax> varaindemian: btrfs isn't stable enough and ext4 works fine on ssd, so *shrug*
[18:08] <arsenic> yeah, i agree with dax.
[18:08] <jatt> btrfs still isn't stable enough? I've heard that since years
[18:08] <varaindemian> dax: thank you. Does encrypting the home folder slow down the system?
[18:08] <tortib> any reason why I would get this with a cifs share?
[18:08] <tortib> rsync: failed to set permissions on "/mnt/storage/Windows/Logs": Permission denied (13)
[18:08] <dax> jatt: it's been true since years, i've been paying attention to such things ;)
[18:09] <tortib> i'm copying over data to it and it isn't actually copying the files, just the permissions
[18:09] <boriseto> nacc: thanks
[18:09] <tortib> er not permissions, but folders instead
[18:09] <arsenic> varaindemian : not a lot .
[18:09] <tortib> the actual files are not being copied over, I logged in with the username and password for that CIFS share
[18:10] <dax> varikonniemi: in my experience it decreased I/O throughput notably for non-typical workloads involving lots of moving around of files. it's not a problem for typical workloads. it may be more noticible for CPUs that don't support crypto instructions, I'm not sure
[18:10] <tortib> ah nvm i just fixed it
[18:10] <tortib> I was using -a with rsync instead of -r
[18:10] <tortib> derp
[18:11] <tortib> interesting now it's only transfering at 100MB/s
[18:11] <tatertots> Hello gentlemen and ladies
[18:13] <tatertots> I'm using 14.04 and made changes to '/usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf' to get rid of guest and enable manual log in, however the system shows previously logged in users at the log in screen after a reboot, i'd rather not have this displayed
[18:14] <tatertots> i'd rather not see the previously logged in usernames, how do i alter this behavior
[18:15] <torpet> i am experiencing some weird behavior. i received kernel 4.4.0-31 updates on both my workstation, a friend of mine is stuck on -28, even though he has changed the apt mirror to archive.ubuntu.com
[18:15] <torpet> what could be going on here?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> torpet  -28 here too, nothing to worfry about
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> worry*
[18:18] <torpet> how come i received -31 then?
[18:18] <torpet> does ubuntu do A/B testing?
[18:20] <lickalott> hello
[18:22] <dax> torpet: the update servers are mirrored, updates tend to propagate to different servers over the course of a few hours. archive.ubuntu.com points to a bunch of different servers
[18:22] <torpet> ohhh ok
[18:22] <torpet> thanks
[18:22] <Bashing-om> torpet: If the X server base is the same on bothsystems ( think hwe ) then I would susypect that phasd updates is a factor : http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04
[18:22] <dax> i wouldn't worry about it unless the update doesn't show up overnight
[18:23] <elias__> test
[18:23] <tatertots> it's probably like that for the convenience, next time that user logs in they'd only have to type their password instead of username AND password but what if the system is used by lots of users the list of previously logged in users could get long and no longer convenient if you had to scroll through a list of 100+ names to find your user name
[18:24] <lickalott> hey all. trying to figure out how to run a script in the background once it completes so the terminal doesn't have to remain open.  tried screen (didn't do what I wanted, but it could be me)  I've added & to the end of the script (but it requires user input, username and password to complete) and I've tried to add the main process to systemd (problem with that is there are specific config files that op
[18:24] <lickalott>  envpn uses and you can't call those out in the systemctl command.
[18:24] <lickalott>  Any ideas how to progress?
[18:24] <tatertots> well if anybody can get me pointed in the right direction just PM me, i'll probably be on another browser tab but i have my speakers turned up to hear the little 'ding' noise when a PM happens
[18:24] <nacc> lickalott: if the script has completed why is it running?
[18:25] <tatertots> it's kinda cool that it makes a little ding noise so you know when someone is chatting to you
[18:25] <lickalott> nacc, it's a script I built to initialize openvpn via Private Internet Access.  The script is completed but if I close the window/terminal the parent process dies as well.
[18:26] <nacc> lickalott: so you need to run the script interactively, then background it?
[18:26] <nacc> lickalott: so you can enter the credentials, i mean
[18:29] <curlyears> nacc:  no joy.  )-:   same problem as before I ran repair-boot.
[18:29] <ddd333> i have 14.04. is there a graphic editor installed by default (like gimp), which one?
[18:30] <OerHeks> tatertots, greeter-hide-users=true > http://askubuntu.com/questions/68953/dont-list-all-users-at-login-with-lightdm\
[18:30] <OerHeks> ddd333, no editor by default iirc, only a photo app.
[18:31] <linuxuser> Hello
[18:31] <curlyears> but you can ibtsall gimp from the Software Centre
[18:31] <curlyears> install
[18:32] <tatertots> thanks OerHeks
[18:32] <curlyears> are you certain you're using linux, linuxuser?
[18:32] <linuxuser> i am quite sure of that :)
[18:32] <ddd333> ty OerHeks curlyears
[18:32] <varaindemian> is this the official site for ubuntu themes? http://www.ubuntuthemes.org/
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> !themes | varaindemian
[18:33] <linuxuser> Will Brexit effect Ubuntu given that Canonical is UK based?
[18:33] <tatertots> OerHeks i would like to keep 'local' users displayed on the log in but not have ldap/ad users displayed ...you think 'greeter-show-remote-login=false' would leave my local user account listed
[18:33] <tatertots> ?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> linuxuser  better ask in   #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:34] <OerHeks> tatertots, not sure about that, test it?
[18:34] <tatertots> I don't mind the local account being there. I just don't want the 100+ ldap/ad users piling up there
[18:35] <johnnny22> is it possible to change X's active layout on the fly ?
[18:35] <curlyears> linuxuser: well, that is difficult to say.  It may become more difficult for people l iving inthe EU who use Canonical's paid services, but unless Brexit results in a total meltdown of British econmy, probably nnot much
[18:36] <curlyears> johnnny22:   you got X to display on a fly?  How?
[18:37] <jat-clone> 😸
[18:41] <ujjwal09> Hello there
[18:42] <ujjwal09> I have recently installed Ubuntu 16.04
[18:42] <ujjwal09> And I installed VLC player
[18:43] <ujjwal09> But when video plays screen keeps blinking every 2-3 seconds
[18:43] <ujjwal09> Is there any glitch or is there any problem with my system
[18:44] <Bashing-om> ujjwal09: A thought .. buffering ?  How much memory do you have installed ?
[18:48] <curlyears> nacc?  K1l_?
[18:48] <curlyears> back again, ,*STILL* no luck getting this beast to boot anything but the ubuntu Live DVD
[18:49] <ujjwal09> Bashing-om I have almost 250 GB free memory
[18:50] <curlyears> 250GB or free DISK SPACE, maybe, not memory.  Not on any linux machine I have ever heard of\
[18:50] <Bashing-om> ujjwal09: Nawww .. not unless you are on a mainframe . ' free -m ' . to know .
[18:50] <curlyears> storage space is not the same as memory space.
[18:52] <curlyears> I just couldn't get that difference through to a class of computer begineers I was teaching.  It was an adult night school course, and most of the students were in their mid-late 60s, at least
[18:52] <vook> you can blame mobile phone distributors for that one.
[18:53] <curlyears> Ah, Mrs. Jankwitz, what kind of computer do you have at home?  "Well, let me think...it's sort of a light tan color, with black keys on the keyboard."
[18:54] <ujjwal09> Bashing-om I don't get you :(
[18:54] <ujjwal09> Actually I don't have a lot technical knowledge
[18:55] <curlyears> I mean, I applaud them for trying to learn new things, and all, but GEEZE, it's like they don't pay attention (of course, now that I am thatold...I understand...itisn't that I don't hear or see the new things, it's that I can't rememebr the 7%^%^% stuff!
[18:56] <tmwnni> ls
[18:56] <curlyears> ujwal9:  what you probably  have is 250GB of free DISK SPACE (mass storage).  If your PC is like most, it probably has either 4 or 8 GB or MEMORY.
[18:56] <vook> ujjwal09: free -m (or top, vmstat, etc) will show you memory usage. df -h shows disk space.
[18:57] <ujjwal09> vook Where I have to type this command
[18:57] <curlyears> Mass storage is used for long term, non-volatile data.  Memory stores volatile data (it disappears when you turn the computer off)
[18:57] <vook> the terminal
[18:59] <ujjwal09> Ok I opened terminal and I typed -m <enter> but it said command not found
[19:00] <nicomachus> ujjwal09: free -m
[19:00] <nicomachus> not just -m
[19:00] <DArqueBishop> curlyears: I got people to understand by saying, "The difference between your memory and hard disk is that if your computer is your office, your memory is your available desk space while your hard disk is your filing cabinets."
[19:00] <ujjwal09> Ok thanks. I will type it right now
[19:01] <ujjwal09> Yes it worked.now what I have to do?
[19:03] <nicomachus> ujjwal09: what did it show?
[19:03] <ujjwal09> It showed a table nicomachus
[19:04] <ujjwal09>  total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[19:04] <ujjwal09> Mem:           3859        1177         889         242        1792        2166
[19:04] <ujjwal09> Swap:          4003           0        4003
[19:04] <ujjwal09> This is what table displayed
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  next time, use a pastebin ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:07] <Egyptian[Web]> how do i tell ubuntu not to install a new kernel when i erase an old one? https://thepb.in/p/AnhrK2nlONKiv
[19:07] <ujjwal09> Thanks for suggestion MonkeyDust :)
[19:07] <bumbar_> i'm trying to mount usb in terminal but nothing happens, just hangs there. works fine in windows though
[19:07] <Bashing-om> ujjwal09: " But when video plays screen keeps blinking every 2-3 seconds" with 4 gigs of ram .. not a memory issue .
[19:08] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: as tgm4883 (i think) told you yesterday, you need to remove the virtual packages too
[19:08] <ujjwal09> Ok
[19:08] <ioria> ujjwal09, do you have the same behavior with totem ?
[19:08] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: if you don't want to get hte latest kernel, remove those 4 pacakges that are being auto-upgraded
[19:08] <bumbar_> if i try to click on shortcut or whatever in nautilus it says: operation is already pending. can i resolve this without restarting the machine?
[19:08] <ddd333> one hour later "are you certain you're using linux, linuxuser?" XXDDD
[19:08] <ujjwal09> Is totem a video player? I have not tried it
[19:09] <ujjwal09> Actually in windows I used only VLC media player
[19:09] <nacc> !info totem | ujjwal09
[19:09] <ioria> bumbar_, usb usually automounts ...  in /media/<user>
[19:10] <ujjwal09> Ok yes
[19:10] <ujjwal09> I used totem and there was no blinking
[19:10] <Egyptian[Web]> nacc you mean uninstall the old list of kernels then do another uninstall with the new list?
[19:10] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: no
[19:11] <bumbar_> ioria, says i don't have permission, and if i ls that dir as root it's empty
[19:11] <ujjwal09> But I cannot use subtitles in totem video player. Thats why I installed VLC
[19:11] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: apt-get remove linux-headers-generic linux-headers-virtual linux-image-virtual linux-virtual
[19:11] <Egyptian[Web]> ujjain: try http://kodi.tv its got subtitles and more
[19:11] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: thoes packages are virtual and track the latest versions
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  do you use .srt files for subtitles?
[19:12] <curlyears> DArqueBishop:    yeah, that is very similar to what I usually do.  But I prefer to use correct terminology the first time through
[19:12] <ujjwal09> Yes Monkeydust
[19:12] <ujjwal09> They are all files I used in wiindows
[19:13] <Egyptian[Web]> nacc: got it .. remove virtual packages first then the list of installed packages
[19:13] <ujjwal09> I have switched to Ubuntu last night only
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  in Totem, click  View > Subttitles
[19:14] <ujjwal09> MonkeyDust in totem there is no such option
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  there is here, just checked
[19:15] <ioria> bumbar_,   ls -l  /media/youuser
[19:15] <ujjwal09> There are three dots on which I left click then it gives Repeat and Skip to option
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  three dots? sure it's Totem?
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  in the View dropdown menu, what do you see
[19:18] <ioria> ujjwal09,  and be sure that the srt file is a good one ...
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  the .srt should have the same name as the video file name
[19:20] <ujjwal09> Yes Srt file is good
[19:20] <ioria> ujjwal09,  so -> view -> Subtitle
[19:20] <ujjwal09> When I am searching for Totem in Ubuntu softwares then it gives a result that Videos is known as Totem
[19:21] <ioria> ujjwal09,  is preinstalled , by defaul
[19:21] <ioria> ujjwal09,  go in Dash and type totem
[19:21] <ujjwal09> And I played a video with Videos then only three dots appear at bottom right corner of screen
[19:22] <curlyears> ANYONE:   I still cannot boot into anything but Live DVD on a real DVD.  I know this is getting old, BELIEVE me I know, but I need a working computer system, and have no monoey to replace this one
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  can you show a screenshot ... upload it here ... http://imgur.com/
[19:23] <ujjwal09> Ioria I am very sorry for my ignorance but where is this Dash
[19:23] <ujjwal09> Sure
[19:23] <ioria> ujjwal09,  the Windows key on your keyboard
[19:24] <nacc> curlyears: did you try that super grub thing?
[19:24] <bumbar_> ioria, https://dpaste.de/FSEj
[19:25] <ujjwal09> http://imgur.com/pEUjM50
[19:26] <ioria> bumbar_,   your usb should shows up as owned by you , not by root ...
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  hover over the top bar on your screen, it should show Movie - Edit etc
[19:30] <curlyears> nacc:   I looked at it, it seemed to be something related to Windows and multi-booting, as far as I coudl tell.
[19:30] <ujjwal09> Let me try it MonkeyDust
[19:30] <ujjain> somebody said ujjain?
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  maximize the Totem window
[19:30] <salman> my software update shows "Failed to download repository information" Check your internet connection.
[19:30] <salman> My internet connection is working fine. I have tried the main server, the server in the USA and the server here in Germany, but I get the same error message each time.
[19:30] <salman> Any help in this connection is highly appreciated.
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> salman  maybe a ppa you added?
[19:31] <salman> yes... i have added several ppa's
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> salman  it must be one of those
[19:31] <ujjwal09> Thank you very much MonkeyDust :)
[19:31] <ujjwal09> It worked like wonder :)
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  what do you see
[19:32] <ujjwal09> God Bless
[19:32] <ujjwal09> I see edit view and all options
[19:32] <salman> how to know which ppa should I remove?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  great, glad i could help
[19:32] <ujjwal09> Thanks a lot for your help and bearing my silly questions MonkeyDust :)
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> ujjwal09  i've done helpdesking, to me, nothing sounds unusual anymore
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> or crazy
[19:37] <MADKING> i get an error saying swiftc command not found when i tried to compile swift program.
[19:38] <MADKING> can someone help me?
[19:38] <khalifa> salut
[19:39] <khalifa> il y a des francais
[19:39] <ioria> !info swift
[19:39] <khalifa> !info
[19:39] <khalifa> salut
[19:39] <SchrodingersScat> !fr | khalifa
[19:40] <MADKING> no french bro.
[19:42] <Len> guys is there any way to switch active windows, click buttons (in those) etc... using some script ?
[19:42] <curlyears> MonkeyDust:  do you have time to assist  me with *MY* stupid problems?
[19:42] <curlyears> Len:have you tried the Tab key ono your keyboard?
[19:43] <Len> curlyears: except fact that I need this in scripting?
[19:43] <Len> yes
[19:43] <Len> :(
[19:43] <SchrodingersScat> Len: have you checked out wmctrl?
[19:44] <Len> SchrodingersScat: nop thanks for hint :)
[19:44] <akik> Len: xdotool
[19:44] <curlyears> engage the septic tank routines, we have SchrodingersScat in the vicinity
[19:44] <curlyears> :p
[19:45] <Len> akik: thanks too
[19:45] <Len> hope I will manage to make my dreams true
[19:45] <elias_a> Where are bluetooth configuration files in 16.04?
[19:45] <elias_a> The stuff that used to be in /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf ?
[19:50] <mike802> hello everyone
[19:50] <becker_> Hello
[19:50] <mike802> i have a computer that can boot to live disk, but i want to troubleshoot a bluescreen issue
[19:50] <mike802> i was wondering if anyone had recommendations for hardware diagnosis
[19:51] <mike802> (since i've ruled out software)
[19:51] <becker_> Nein ich habe Festinstaliert
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> !de
[19:51] <ioria> mike802, bluescreens are on windows iirc
[19:52] <becker_> Danke Für deine Andwort
[19:53] <mike802> yes
[19:53] <mike802> i am using a live linux disk to troubleshoot my problem
[19:53] <ioria> i see
[19:55] <Martiini> mike802 is distrowatch.com any help?
[19:58] <mike802> does anyone have a recommendation for good linux-based hardware diagnosis tools?
[20:06] <rypervenche> mike802: I would use smartmontools to check your hard drives. But I doubt your issue is related to that. It's more likely a file system issue in Windows.
[20:06] <genewitch> I'm performing upgrade 15.10->16.04 and it said 134 packages are no longer supported, how do i see the list of packages no longer supported?
[20:08] <mike802> well, a fresh install does not fix my problem
[20:08] <mike802> so it has to be a hardware issue
[20:17] <wewladds> What flavor of ubuntu would be good for a 2-in-1 laptop?
[20:20] <EriC^^> wewladds: as in tablet + laptop?
[20:20] <curlyears> OK. I am using KiwiIRC web client. I can make a :P by typig an : adjacent to a P. How would I accomplish inputting a hexadecimal number instead? (specifially, 1F638)
[20:20] <curlyears> (which  is the smiling kitty face that jatt is using)
[20:21] <wewladds> EriC^^, yeah.
[20:22] <rypervenche> mike802: A fresh install of what? And what issue(s) are you having?
[20:22] <EriC^^> genewitch: ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported
[20:23] <EriC^^> wewladds: unity would be good i think
[20:23] <mike802> i want to test if some old ram i found on the floor somewhere is failing or not
[20:23] <wewladds> EriC^^, Ok, thanks.
[20:23] <EriC^^> wewladds: no problem
[20:23] <wewladds> EriC^^, Is touch support generally good?
[20:24] <EriC^^> wewladds: i've no idea really, try #ubuntu-touch for more info
[20:26] <rypervenche> mike802: Well, if you want help, you'll probably want to answer questions.
[20:27] <mike802> i said i am running a linux live cd
[20:27] <mike802> i have ubuntu, fedora, debian, and knoppix
[20:28] <genewitch> EriC^^: thank you
[20:28] <mike802> please let me know if i am in the wrong channel
[20:28] <EriC^^> genewitch: no problem
[20:28] <genewitch> EriC^^: it didn't work though, it crashes
[20:29] <genewitch>   raise Exception("No Release file found for %s" % pkgname)
[20:29] <elyan> Hi everyone. Did someone notice a missing translation in the german unity 16.04? Software updates available notification seems to have lost its translation - can anyone confirm?
[20:29] <EriC^^> genewitch: does it say anything before crashing?
[20:32] <genewitch> EriC^^: http://projectftm.com/index.php?5ccf22 yes, these few lines
[20:32] <genewitch> EriC^^: does that command work *after* the update has finished? or only before
[20:36] <EriC^^> genewitch: it works all the time i think
[20:37] <EriC^^> try to remove account-plugin-facebook temporarily, i dont know what the output means that much though, i have a ton of packages that come up even though i'm using 16.04
[20:38] <karabaja4> does anyone know of an app that would allow me to write semi-transparent clock OVER windows (kinda like conky but over windows)?
[20:39] <curlyears> Eric^^  still willing to assist me with my system booting problems?
[20:39] <Lalka> I have a hidden ".directory" folder everywhere. It's a folder's config. But why KDE not save all theses config-folders in ".config" or ".cashe"? Can I change to it?
[20:39] <akik> Lalka: last time i checked it's a file
[20:39] <EriC^^> curlyears: sure
[20:40] <curlyears> Lalka:  you can change the name, sure, but if you do, your system won't be able to locate it for whatever it uses it for
[20:41] <Lalka> Dolphin will know where config folder
[20:41] <EriC^^> curlyears: what have you tried recently?
[20:41] <elyan> is there any possibility to verify an existing 16.04 installataion usb stick similar to verifying the ISO?
[20:41] <OerHeks> karabaja4, http://superuser.com/questions/565784/can-conky-remain-always-visible-alongside-other-windows >> own_window_hints above does the trick
[20:42] <EriC^^> elyan: you can boot it in legacy mode and i think it should have a "verify disk" option there
[20:42] <curlyears> Eric:  I Ihave tried the repair-boot routine nacc pointed me to with zero success.  I sitll can't boot from a properly made USB thumg image, I can't boot from my HDDs, despite having re-installed several times withvarying choices of options, and ALL I seem to be able to do successfullky is boot the LiveDVD
[20:42] <Lalka> Eric^^,
[20:42] <Lalka> I have a hidden ".directory" folder everywhere. It's a folder's config. But why KDE not save all theses config-folders in ".config" or ".cashe"? Can I change to it?
[20:42] <curlyears> Lalka:  don
[20:42] <curlyears> 't repeat questions so rapidly.
[20:42] <curlyears> you have receivwed several responses to your original query
[20:43] <MADKING> i installed a virtualbox but i can't seems to find a shortcut
[20:43] <EriC^^> curlyears: are you in the livedvd right now?
[20:43] <curlyears> Eric^^:  yes
[20:43] <EriC^^> curlyears: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:43] <EriC^^> or pastebinit if you have it installed
[20:44] <curlyears> Eric^^:  OK.  did this for nacc a while ago, all he could recommend was "repair-boot" which I ran with no success
[20:48] <curlyears> Eric^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/19543085/    (sorry that took so long, I forgot I had to reinstall pastebinit  *blush*)
[20:48] <Bashing-om> curlyears: EriC^^ is great on UEFI boot issues . follow him as directed . He will get ya booted .
[20:48] <curlyears> thanks. Bashing-om
[20:49] <curlyears> dogone <return> key doesn't always result in my typing being "entered" to the program being run.  )-:
[20:49] <EriC^^> curlyears: ubuntu is installed in sda?
[20:49] <curlyears> and since I have to look at the keyboard to type, I don't necessarily notice that right away )-:
[20:50] <curlyears> I need to get a new keyboard
[20:50] <curlyears> Eric^^  Yes, I believe so
[20:50] <EriC^^> curlyears: is uefi enabled?
[20:51] <curlyears> Eric^^:  it's called "EFI" in my BIOS setup screens, but yes, it is and has to be according tot he information in the BIOS, if I am using > 2TB drives, which I am
[20:52] <EriC^^> curlyears: your bios isn't that honest :D
[20:52] <EriC^^> linux has no problem with gpt + legacy, windows does though
[20:52] <EriC^^> try sudo efibootmgr -v | pastebinit
[20:52] <curlyears> Eric^^:  ALl I know is I couldn't do anything with it set to non-EFI and the 3TB drives plugged into the SATQ controller ports
[20:52] <curlyears> SATA
[20:53] <EriC^^> ok
[20:53] <curlyears> sudo: efibootmgr: command not found
[20:54] <EriC^^> ok, try installing it and give it another go
[20:55] <curlyears> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19544007/
[20:55] <EriC^^> that tells the story nicely
[20:55] <curlyears> it does?  It was Greek to me
[20:55] <EriC^^> only the dvd is set to boot in uefi mode somehow
[20:56] <EriC^^> it's supposed to say EFI USB and the hdd and many other stuff
[20:56] <EriC^^> which pc is it?
[20:56] <curlyears> that makes no sense.   There is no way I can look at BIOS settings from inside ubuntu, is there?  I have to reboot the system, and hand write all the settings I see )-:
[20:57] <sulle> I hate that installing games with PlayOnLinux / wine is so much hassle and never work for me !!
[20:57] <curlyears> *gads*  O have been sitting here for almost 5 hours, fighting this beast
[20:57] <curlyears> wine is unreliable
[20:57] <curlyears> s/O/I/
[20:57] <EriC^^> curlyears: before you do so, you can add the ubuntu entry from the livedvd
[20:58] <EriC^^> curlyears: sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[20:59] <EriC^^> curlyears: also, just in case the bios is tricky, do sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[20:59] <curlyears> Eric^^:  I built it myself from parts.  The motherboard is from Gigabyte, GA-78LMT-USB3
[21:00] <EriC^^> aha
[21:01] <EriC^^> mounted?
[21:01] <luiz_> bola
[21:02] <curlyears> https://thepb.in/p/Vmh0n9zxjqMi4
[21:04] <EriC^^> curlyears: ok, looks good
[21:04] <EriC^^> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[21:05] <curlyears> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt busy
[21:05] <curlyears> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt
[21:05] <EriC^^> curlyears: mount | grep sda1
[21:06] <curlyears> ok: /dev/sda1 on /mnt type vfat (rw)
[21:07] <EriC^^> curlyears: ls -lR /mnt | pastebinit
[21:07] <curlyears> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19545575/
[21:08] <curlyears> that looks hopeful
[21:10] <EriC^^> curlyears: sudo mkdir -p /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[21:10] <EriC^^> curlyears: sorry
[21:10] <EriC^^> wait
[21:10] <EriC^^> curlyears: sudo mkdir -p /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[21:10] <EriC^^> also sudo mkdir /mnt/EFI/Boot
[21:13] <curlyears> EriC^^: WHAT?????   HOW DARE YOU HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE HELPING ME!!!!!!   :p
[21:14] <EriC^^> lol
[21:14] <curlyears> ok
[21:14] <curlyears> done
[21:14] <curlyears> are we ready yet?
[21:14] <EriC^^> curlyears: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[21:15] <EriC^^> curlyears: also sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[21:15] <EriC^^> yup
[21:16] <curlyears> ok,
[21:16] <EriC^^> give it a shot
[21:16] <curlyears> shall I attempt to reboot now?
[21:17] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:17] <curlyears> ok.  If it doesn't work, I'll be gone a whikle, LiveDVD takes *FOREVER* to boot
[21:17] <EriC^^> ok
[21:18] <varaindemian> how is unity8-desktop-session-mir on 16.04?
[21:18] <EriC^^> varaindemian: not that great
[21:19] <xangua> Not for daily use
[21:20] <varaindemian> :(
[21:25] <jamie_1> hey im having and issue with ADB, i have two devices that wont connect to adb at all that were about 30 minutes ago. i just finished  building my daily base image and went to flash and it cant find any devices and it keeps saying adb server out of date killing and then not listing the devices at all when i run adb devices, also wont detect them in fastboot either
[21:26] <TheNH813> Question about the .tar.gz Firmware package. (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/258203677/linux-firmware_1.158.tar.gz)
[21:26] <TheNH813> Can it be used with ANY ubuntu compatable OS/
[21:26] <TheNH813> Or does it only work on Ubuntu specifically?
[21:27] <TheNH813> I was told to ask this here instead of on #Linux
[21:28] <froidpsk> Olá
[21:28] <froidpsk> porra
[21:29] <froidpsk> Sai seus putos
[21:29] <TheNH813> ???
[21:31] <EriC^^> curlyears: any luck?
[21:31] <curlyears> Eric^^:   No joy, same exact problem.  It hangs after telling me it is checking DMI pools
[21:32] <EriC^^> curlyears: try to install efibootmgr again and run sudo efibootmgr -v
[21:32] <TheNH813> Question, will "borrowing" a firmware file (ra3290.bin) off a Ubuntu machine work on another Linux distro, or no?
[21:33] <nonesisto> yes
[21:33] <curlyears> but I did look at the EFI selection screen more closely.  It offers three choices:  EFI, Legacy or Auto.  Auto does NOT work well.  It also says it is required to boot from CD/DVD when >2TB drives are present.
[21:33] <dax> TheNH813: probably
[21:33] <dax> TheNH813: those should be distro-independent
[21:33] <TheNH813> Thanks. I'l try it then. Because one thing I really like about Ubuntu is it's massive collection of firmware. :D
[21:33] <EriC^^> curlyears: odd
[21:34] <curlyears> Eric^^:  after 8 months of fighting with this crap, I am beginning to think this thing just flat out doesn't LIKE me!   :p
[21:35] <EriC^^> curlyears: i'm no expert but it seems a little odd, if it can boot in uefi mode then it should be able to whether it's 2tb or more
[21:35] <curlyears> well, as I said, it's only for the CD/DVD booting, apparently
[21:35] <EriC^^> the efi partition is at the beginning of the drive, i wonder why it says that
[21:36] <curlyears> isit at the beginning of the DVD?
[21:37] <EriC^^> curlyears: i guess so
[21:37] <EriC^^> curlyears: what's on the 500gb hdd?
[21:37] <curlyears> because when I sam booting from the DVD, it isn't even LOOKING at the hard drives
[21:37] <TheNH813> EriC^^: You didn't format the drive in Antarctica, rendering the partitions upside down, did you? :P
[21:37] <EriC^^> TheNH813: :D
[21:37] <curlyears> Eric:  nothing, so far as I know.  It shoudl have been erased months ago, in all this mess.  It was the original drive for this system, before I bought the 3TB drives
[21:37] <EriC^^> is polarity really reversed there?
[21:38] <TheNH813> LOL
[21:38] <EriC^^> :D
[21:38] <TheNH813> I don't think so. But seriously, EFI can be wierd at times.
[21:38] <EriC^^> true
[21:38] <curlyears> TheNH813: not only did I not do that, I have never stepped foor outside the Continental United States
[21:39] <pseud0> Hey. I usually had a program start in response to me inserting SD cards (photos) - on reinstalling, this no longer happens.
[21:39] <curlyears> Winds circle clockwise South of the equator, where as they circle anti-clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere
[21:39] <curlyears> that's abiout the onnkly difference.
[21:40] <surgy> hello
[21:40] <EriC^^> curlyears: ok, maybe if the efi partition is on that drive it will boot, other options would be to try and see if it doesn't mind legacy or make a custom live dvd that points to the ubuntu install to boot it every time (just some options that came to mind)
[21:40] <surgy> how do i set xfce to my defualt wm from the terminal?
[21:40] <EriC^^> curlyears: you could install ubuntu to the 500gb hdd and have the 3tb mounted somewhere too, easiest and cleanest
[21:41] <curlyears> except that at the North Pole, a compass will say its pointing South no matter what direction you point it. whereas at the South Pole, it will always tell you it is pointing North.
[21:41] <pseud0> Is there a way to launch a program when I insert an SD card ?
[21:41] <eee333> so i'll updte to 16.04 this month. what are the most important changes/improvements? ( updating from 14.04 >.< )
[21:41] <curlyears> Eric^^:  Do you think that will Help?  Qlso, how do I get it to choose the 500GB drive?  It just automatically selects one of the 3T drivers without any input from me
[21:42] <EriC^^> curlyears: use the "Something else" option in the installer
[21:42] <surgy> how do i set xfce to my defualt wm from the terminal?
[21:42] <octacian> pseud0: It's definitely possible. I researched that previously. Can't remember off hand though. I will see if I can find anything without crashing my computer...
[21:42] <curlyears> Eric^^:  OK.  I always get lost and confused when I am trying to use the partition editor
[21:42] <genewitch> well, deepdream still works on 16.04
[21:42] <pseud0> octacian: much appreciated
[21:43] <curlyears> Eric^^:  at least from my perspective, it does not behave logically or understandably
[21:44] <curlyears> and, I havwe to leave in about 15 minutes to cook my supper.  As a brittle diabetic, it is important that I eat on time.
[21:44] <EriC^^> curlyears: make a fresh partition table from the livedvd, then make a 300mb fat32 partition as the efi partition, and use the rest for "/" ext4 , and swap
[21:45] <curlyears> Eric^^:  OK, I'll give it a shot
[21:45] <eee333> so i'll upadte to 16.04 this month. what are the most important changes/improvements? ( updating from 14.04 >.< )
[21:46] <torpet_> i am having this bug for microsoft reserved partitions: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2298496
[21:46] <torpet_> my whole dmesg log is full of it
[21:46] <torpet_> is this a known kernel bug
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> eee333  read any 16.04 review, here's one ... https://www.linux.com/news/ubuntu-1604-review-whats-new-desktop-users
[21:47] <nacc> torpet_: what is the bug? it's (possibly) a spurious message
[21:47] <nacc> torpet_: that's not a bug, that's just ... a spurious message, I mean
[21:47] <eee333> MonkeyDust: thank you
[21:49] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | eee333: also, bear in mind:
[21:51] <eee333> is 20'' too small for a screen? i bought this 20'' all-in-one, but now i find it slightly small. although i really love 11'' notebooks he (asus eeebook)
[21:51] <eee333> thank you nacc
[21:52] <eee333> i'm so happy i'm back to ubuntu T_T :D
[21:52] <tgm4883> eee333: not really a support question. That's literally only something you can answer for yourself (as all things that are a matter of preference)
[21:52] <bprompt> ditto
[21:52] <eee333> tgm4883: last question what do you have as screen if using desktop? (inches)
[21:53] <torpet_> nacc: well i think basically all filesystemmodules are being loaded
[21:53] <torpet_> that is a bug
[21:53] <torpet_> why would i want to load JFS if all i use is ext4 and fat32
[21:53] <tgm4883> eee333: i have 2 24" screens
[21:54] <eee333> tgm4883: that's really cool
[21:54] <bprompt> eee333:    on desktop, on mobile I use 15.6, I've used 14" as well as 17" laptops, on desktop my CRT was 19", but hell, if I can get a 20" or bigger, sure, for development is great
[21:55] <eee333> bprompt: thank you for feedback
[21:55] <tortib> is there a free vmware for linux?
[21:55] <nacc> torpet_: i think you are misinterpreting kernel messages as errors. When you plug a filesystem in, it's probed to determine if it can be recognized. Each fs is tried.
[21:55] <bprompt> tortib:    irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode   <-- check there maybe
[21:55] <tortib> bprompt, check for what?
[21:56] <bprompt> tortib:   channels in the network, or in other networks :)
[21:57] <bprompt> tortib:   hmm ohhh rats.. I think I misread you (as usual), thought you asked on channels for it =(
[21:58] <tatertots> an option if you want to run virtual machines free of charge is "oracle virtualbox'
[21:58] <tgm4883> kvm and virt-manager FTW
[21:59] <tgm4883> or LXD
[21:59] <nacc> tortib: do you want specifically vmware or just virtualization?
[22:00] <torpet_> nacc: oh ok that might be right, thanks
[22:02] <edem`> Hello Hi
[22:04] <edem`> Are there  distros for blind?
[22:04] <elyan> Hi everyone. Did someone notice a missing translation in the german unity 16.04? Software updates available notification seems to have lost its translation - can anyone confirm?
[22:04] <elyan> is there any possibility to verify an existing 16.04 installataion usb stick similar to verifying the ISO?
[22:05] <nacc> edem`: i believe there are some accessibility tools (e.g., orca) built-in or readily available for ubuntu; I don't know about a distro specifically for the lind
[22:05] <nacc> *blind
[22:07] <arooni__> hey
[22:07] <nacc> elyan: doesn't hte usb also offer the 'check cd for defects" option?
[22:09] <Bashing-om> elyan: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck .
[22:19] <elyan> nacc: yes - but i think this only checks the files against the md5 text file on the disk itself - i'd rather like to check whether the disk itself contains the "signed" files
[22:20] <tortib> I got 99GB and a byte aint one
[22:22] <Prince_> hey
[22:23] <Prince_> anyone is
[22:23] <Prince_> here
[22:29] <meetri> i'm trying to upgrade from 14.04LTS to 16.04LTS however, do-release-upgrade says "No new release found" shouldn't this work?
[22:30] <Prince_> first upgrade it to 15.04
[22:30] <Prince_> then upgrade it to 16.04
[22:30] <tortib> when is the next version due out?
[22:30] <xangua> meetri: no until the first point release security update is... Released, should happen in the end of this month
[22:30] <Rochvellon> you haven't upgrade to 15.04
[22:30] <tgm4883> No
[22:30] <tgm4883> Don't do what Prince_ said
[22:31] <tgm4883> !ltsupgrade
[22:31] <Rochvellon> and 16.04 will be available for 14.04 if SP1 releases
[22:31] <Myrtti> when
[22:31] <Myrtti> Not if
[22:32] <Prince_> i want programmers group of c language
[22:32] <maxb> You can tell that xenial is not explicitly published for LTS-to-LTS upgrades because it's not listed in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts yet
[22:32] <Prince_> can anyone tell where should go for it
[22:33] <Rochvellon> yes, Myrtti :)
[22:33] <Pazooza> I started a manual upgrade, computer froze, had to do a clean install of 16.04.
[22:33] <meetri> xangua, since this is a dev box - Is it ok to just upgrade to the devel-release ?
[22:34] <meetri> then later update to 16.04.1 ?
[22:34] <maxb> You can of course choose to upgrade early, but Ubuntu's position is "If you care enough about stability to only use LTSes, we advise you wait for a new LTS to reach .1"
[22:34] <meetri> s/update/upgrade
[22:34] <maxb> meetri: uh, what exactly do you mean by devel-release, because I'd take that to mean 16.10-in-progress
[22:35] <meetri> maxb, do-release-upgrade -dc reports 16.04 LTS is available
[22:36] <maxb> OK, it's fine to use the -d flag to convince the upgrader to see the 16.04 LTS release early
[22:38] <Prince_> how to install black ops advance warfare in ubuntu 16.04
[22:39] <daxdax89> hi
[22:39] <daxdax89> anyone here?
[22:39] <daxdax89> using irc for the first time in my life lol
[22:40] <\9> daxdax89: hello, this is the official ubuntu support channel
[22:40] <Prince_> hey
[22:40] <daxdax89> so i can talk with people who actually created Ubuntu?
[22:40] <Prince_> i dont know
[22:40] <\9> there's countless people creating ubuntu
[22:40] <\9> it's a big group effort
[22:41] <daxdax89> i like it so far
[22:41] <daxdax89> came from windows 10
[22:41] <Prince_> same here
[22:41] <daxdax89> it's so stable
[22:41] <Prince_> yeah
[22:41] <daxdax89> althou i miss synching with google drive, all my work there :(
[22:41] <Prince_> best linux distribution ever
[22:41] <tgm4883> Is there a support question in there, the chat channel would be #ubuntu-discuss
[22:42] <Prince_> i dont know
[22:42] <\9> daxdax89: googling "google drive ubuntu" yields a few possible solutions to that
[22:42] <Blakes5> I need some help setting up a program to run at system boot and I'm a bit confused since apparently there's about a dozen ways to do it and at any given time most of those are probably no longer valid.
[22:42] <Prince_> how to install black ops advance warfare in ubuntu 16.04
[22:43] <daxdax89> everything is for ubuntu 14 or it doesn't sync files back, only reads them @\9
[22:43] <tgm4883> daxdax89: insynq works
[22:43] <ozbrk> hi guys I need an immediate vpn guide to connect fo free there is a millitary coup situtation in TR
[22:43] <ozbrk> for*
[22:43] <tgm4883> Blakes5: depending on the program, use systemd or crontab
[22:43] <OerHeks> Prince_, check playonlinux or wineHQ database
[22:44] <\9> or steam if it's there
[22:44] <daxdax89> how do you tag user here? With "@"?
[22:45] <\9> no, just address the user with their name
[22:45] <Blakes5> tgm4883 it's running Octoprint a web enabled host for a 3d printer and a streaming webcam using ffserver for a mjpeg stream. Crontab would run the scripts without requiring login?
[22:45] <tgm4883> !tab | daxdax89
[22:45] <daxdax89> insynq seems complicated
[22:45] <daxdax89> tgm4883,
[22:45] <Prince_> OerHeks_: i have already installed winehq but still i cant play
[22:45] <tgm4883> daxdax89: complicated? You install it and login and tell it what to sync
[22:45] <daxdax89> it says it's virtual sefver
[22:45] <daxdax89> server*
[22:46] <tgm4883> daxdax89: are you looking at https://www.insynchq.com/
[22:46] <tortib> anyone here experienced with kvm-qemu?  I can't get USB devices recognized in the VM.
[22:46] <skweeek> Kswapd0 just started utilizing 99% of my CPU... ? Anyone interested in what's going on here http://tinyurl.com/zum5buv
[22:46] <nacc> skweeek: you're very low on memory
[22:46] <nacc> skweeek: and you have no swap space
[22:46] <nacc> skweeek: so kswapd0 is thrashing trying to get stuff out to disk
[22:47] <skweeek> Ah
[22:47] <nacc> skweeek: you might see where your all your memory has gone (sort top by memory cosnumption, res field)
[22:47] <daxdax89> it's not free? tgm4883
[22:47] <tgm4883> daxdax89: nope
[22:47] <nacc> skweeek: it might get healtheir just by restarting both browsers running
[22:48] <Prince_> OerHeks_: i have already installed winehq but still i cant play
[22:48] <skweeek> I thought I had a swap partition set up, or I planned on getting around to setting up a swapfile...
[22:48] <tgm4883> daxdax89: free trial for 15 days, $25/lifetime after that
[22:48] <daxdax89> i came to Linux because of free stuff and now i have to pay lol
[22:48] <nacc> skweeek: ok, top says no swap available, though :)
[22:48]  * tgm4883 sighs
[22:48] <nacc> tortib: you're trying to USB pass thru?
[22:48] <nacc> tortib: i'd recommend using libvirt rather than kvm directly
[22:49] <\9> daxdax89: linux being free to use doesn't stop others for charging for their software, if you want free stuff check the software repositories
[22:49] <\9> loads of everything there
[22:49] <daxdax89> so other than this, there is no free solution?
[22:50] <\9> there could be something on the internet, of course
[22:50] <nacc> skweeek: you can also see that there are a ton of processes in D state (uninterruptible sleep on disk) and your load is quite high. Those are all signs ofa n overloaded system
[22:50] <tgm4883> daxdax89: grive maybe?
[22:50] <\9> grive is in the repos i think
[22:50] <\9> !info grive
[22:50] <daxdax89> it doesn't sync back
[22:50] <\9> oh
[22:51] <tgm4883> daxdax89: according to their github page it does too
[22:51] <daxdax89> drive is kind of important deal, can't believe Google didn't make client for Linux
[22:52] <nacc> afaict that's https://github.com/odeke-em/drive
[22:52] <daxdax89> hm
[22:52] <nacc> it's forked from the google drive team, at least
[22:52] <OerHeks> Prince_, then i don't know, try the wine channel?
[22:52] <OerHeks> !wine
[22:52] <tgm4883> daxdax89: https://github.com/Grive/grive
[22:52] <daxdax89> i am afraid i am not knowledgable enough to pull softwares from git
[22:52] <daxdax89> never knew how to work with it
[22:53] <nacc> tgm4883: grive seems sort of dead (based upon github); the other project (odeke-em/drive) was at least updated a few days ago
[22:53] <tgm4883> daxdax89: then purchase insync or use the browser
[22:53] <daxdax89> btw sup with browser offline caching
[22:54] <daxdax89> in google drive
[22:54] <daxdax89> anyone tried how it works?
[22:54] <Prince_> OerHeks_: okh buddy
[22:54] <tgm4883> daxdax89: you could always try it
[22:54] <tgm4883> nacc: didn't know about that, neat
[22:54] <TommyTheKid> Hi all, I can't seem to find this answer with google... I am trying to launch an Ubuntu Server 12.04 or 14.04 LTS in Amazon EC2 on a t2.small instance, but t2 and m4 are not available for selection, any idea why or how to work around it? (CentOS I have to select a VPC to deploy to, then they become available)
[22:55] <TommyTheKid> I don't even see 16.04?
[22:55] <tortib> Can someone help me get USB working in my vm using kvm-qemu
[22:55] <nacc> tgm4883: always a bit hard to tell with github projects are still alive or not
[22:55] <nacc> tortib: i'd recommend using libvirt rather than kvm directly
[22:56] <nacc> tortib: as i said before; but if you insist on command-line, how are you invoking qemu? (pastebin)
[22:57] <nacc> TommyTheKid: you might ask in #ubuntu-server, or if AWS has a channel, i guess
[22:57] <nacc> TommyTheKid: 16.04 is listed here: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/
[22:57] <TommyTheKid> strange, I wonder if hte marketplace thing is broken today?
[22:57] <nacc> TommyTheKid: i wonder if AWS waits for 16.04.1 before officially pushing them out?
[22:58] <tortib> nacc, i'm using libvirt
[22:58] <tortib> nacc, using the libvirt manager
[22:58] <TommyTheKid> Canonical is responsible (as I understand it)
[22:58] <nacc> TommyTheKid: k, afaict, 16.04 is avilable: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=716318
[22:59] <tortib> nacc, any idea?
[22:59] <tortib> nacc, I can't get USB working and I need to get it to work :(
[22:59] <nacc> tortib: you mean you're using virt-manager?
[22:59] <daxdax89> so what are you guys up to?
[22:59] <tortib> nacc, yes
[23:01] <TommyTheKid> Oh, well ... THanks for that forum post nacc ... apparently Ubuntu doesn't play by the rules to get their images into the AWS Marketplace so that they can be sarched for easily, you have to go find them on their page, then plug the ami ID back in manually, but at least they are there :)
[23:02] <TommyTheKid> and then even the (ancient) 12.04 has t2.* options. YAY
[23:02] <nacc> tortib: ok, what usb device are you trying to pass thru?
[23:03] <TommyTheKid> thanks nacc!
[23:04] <nacc> TommyTheKid: np, glad it worked for you
[23:05] <nacc> tortib: what happens when you try? how did you try?
[23:15] <tortib> nacc, I add the device and then start the VM
[23:16] <nacc> tortib: add the device in the GUI?
[23:17] <nacc> tortib: you've only answered 1 of my 3 questions.
[23:31] <maestrojed> I created a new user. When I use SSH to auth in as that user I get a message that "Could not chdir to home directory /home/myNewUser: No such file or directory". Should I manually create this directory? My next steps were to add SSH keys which I would typically do in the user directory.
[23:31] <nacc> maestrojed: how did you add the user?
[23:31] <maestrojed> nacc useradd -g www-data myNewUser
[23:32] <nacc> maestrojed: generally, should use adduser unless you know you have passed all flags to useradd
[23:32] <nacc> maestrojed: in this case, i think you're missing -d
[23:32] <nacc> maestrojed: err, -m, rather
[23:32] <maestrojed> nacc  good to know. I was following a tut. :)
[23:34] <maestrojed> Another question. Very minor but I am curious. I have been using the root user to set things up until this point. Now that I use MyNewUser the prompt is much more basic, doesn't show current path, etc. I guess maybe I look at root's bash config and replicate it
[23:34] <maestrojed> Doesn't really matter
[23:34] <nacc> maestrojed: in ubuntu, sudo is recommended
[23:34] <nacc> maestrojed: rather than using the root user
[23:35] <maestrojed> I know. I only had root until I created MyNewUser
[23:35] <nacc> maestrojed: that would be because you again, used useradd rather than adduser; so you were missing a skeleton home directory and file s
[23:35] <nacc> maestrojed: e.g., .bashrc etc
[23:35] <maestrojed> I am trying to get to the place to not use root and only sudo
[23:35] <maestrojed> nacc  gotcha. makes sense. Thanks!
[23:35] <nacc> maestrojed: how did you have root in the first place? no default install of ubuntu has root as a user (afaik) anymore
[23:36] <maestrojed> nacc  a provisioning from DigitalOcean
[23:36] <maestrojed> "LAMP on Ubuntu 14"
[23:36] <nacc> ah
[23:36] <maestrojed> Trying to make it more secure before I take it to production.
[23:42] <dreadkop_> hey guys. i am in a ubuntu 16.04 trying to mount a exfat partition. i need exfat-fuse and exfat-utils as i read however apt-get says there is no package of this name... aptitude search also give no package when searching for 'exfat'
[23:42] <maestrojed> Would I cause concern if I just copied my .bashrc from the root user (/root) to my user (/home/myNewUser)?
[23:43] <maxb> Erm, "no default install of ubuntu has root as a user (afaik) anymore", is somewhat inaccurate. Every installation of Ubuntu has a root user. Ubuntu merely encourages you not to use it except when you explicitly need elevated privileges
[23:45] <\9> maestrojed: why from /root/ and not /etc/skel/.bashrc?
[23:46] <WhiteNight> Files from /root are specific to the root user only. and files from /etc/skel are like template files which should be applied for all other non-root users
[23:46] <\9> right
[23:46] <maestrojed> \9 because I didn't know better.
[23:46] <WhiteNight> np
[23:46] <maestrojed> :) I will adjust.
[23:46] <maestrojed> thanks
[23:48] <dreadkop_> tried to build exfat-fuse from git but it says Package requirements (fuse) not met. However fuse is installed? anyone might help? i am confused
[23:48] <theskillwithin> im on ubunbut now =]
[23:50] <vlt> dreadkop_: exfat-fuse is available in universe.
[23:50] <vlt> dreadkop_: No need to build it.
[23:50] <maestrojed> Ok, Sorry, this is a lot of 101 stuff. I can shut up an go to google if this is annoying.
[23:51] <dreadkop_> vlt: ah. thanks for the hint. for some reason univers repo was unchecked. however strange the git build complains about missing fuse
[23:51] <maestrojed> I copied the .bashrc from the skeleton directory. Things still see 'weird' to me on the CLI
[23:51] <maestrojed> example. Pressing up arrow key typically cycles through my last run commands but not with this user.
[23:52] <WhiteNight> maestrojed, the .bashrc file in the home directory of your user should be present, which imports most of the things from the system bashrc, which in Ubuntu is /etc/bash.bashrc
[23:53] <Guy1524> hey guys, what is the best way to completely reinstall ubuntu but keep some files
[23:53] <maestrojed> WhiteNight ok, I can try grabbing that one. I created my user incorrectly in a way that did not do all that for me. Trying to clean up. I used useradd instead of adduser. nacc helped me realize that :)
[23:53] <dax> put the files on external storage and then reinstall :|
[23:53] <Guy1524> should I just back them up to my secondary storage drive and put them back on
[23:54] <maestrojed> :)
[23:54] <dax> that'd be my recommendation. safer than more complicated ideas.
[23:54] <Guy1524> k
[23:55] <WhiteNight> Guy1524, since you are doing a re-install, you might want to consider having a separate /data partition so that whenever you re-install etc. you never have to backup (Although external storage backup is always a good idea)
[23:55] <Guy1524> how do I make a seperate partition for my home folder
[23:56] <Guy1524> I have heard about people doing it before but I have never looked into it
[23:56] <WhiteNight> maestrojed, how did you create the User ID? Creating via using the useradd command, may not effectively get you all stuffs that you may need. Try the User Add feature from the Control Panel (Settings) option on your system. That will run that command in the background with all the options needed and it will include all necessary files needed for the new user, and Ibelieve you shouldnt be facing such issues
[23:57] <WhiteNight> Guy1524, I gtg, sorry, but a quick thing is, on the Partition Page of the Ubuntu Installer, choose custom ..... and follow it from there
[23:57] <Guy1524> ok thanks
[23:58] <WhiteNight> rest, please do put your questions, someone else would answer if they are free, thanks
[23:58] <maestrojed> WhiteNight  This is ununtu server. No GUI. Which I think is what you mean by "control panel". But okay, should I delete the user and start over? Can I just run adduser even though I already created the user with useradd?
[23:58] <maestrojed> WhiteNight I created this user with "useradd -g www-data myNewUser"
[23:58] <WhiteNight> maestrojed, sorry, gtg, wait for somebody else to answer, or you can try the Ubuntu forums as per the guidelines of this channel
[23:59] <maestrojed> WhiteNight  thanks for the help man! have a great week
[23:59] <maestrojed> end....