daftykinsthese are the planes we use a lot to get off the island, my aircraft engineer mate was showing us this Taiwan crash last night - http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03187/transasia-plane_3187308k.jpg00:07
daftykinsthey ignored all procedure and then turned off the wrong engine... scary stuff00:08
daftykins(one already had problems)00:08
zmoylan-pipeople in a panic often do the worst thing00:13
daftykinsheh yeah, but pilots are trained "if in doubt do nothing" apparently00:14
zmoylan-pieven pilots/doctors make mistakes/panic.00:15
zmoylan-pithe best you can do is drill into them good practices00:16
daftykinsyeah he mentioned the checklist is the #1 thing00:17
daftykinsanywho, must sleep! nn o/00:17
zmoylan-pisleep well o/00:17
diddledanturkey is still ongoing00:43
diddledanI’m gonna have to sleep soon though00:46
mappsmorning all06:44
mappsso full up, went for breakfast ater work at the sunbourn ugh06:45
SuperEngineerwell, if you will have a five course breakfast, that's going to happen ;-)06:46
mappsgot to sleep at some point (work nights)06:46
knightwisegood night mapps ,07:28
MooDoomorning all07:57
SuperEngineero/ MooDoo08:06
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:58
SuperEngineerpsst... it was Jono who hacked the forums [in alliance with some bloke called Linus, apparently].  Must be true; SuperEngineer told me it was ;-)12:19
DreamsySup Worlds, is there a method of stopping (on tablet) it threatening to close my firefox/xchat sessions if my keyboard/mouse go to sleep?13:42
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, The Ubuntu tablet?13:58
Dreamsyyep the m10 fhd13:59
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, the Libertine stuff isn't native so13:59
DreamsyI've not installed that (yet) firefox and xchat are native13:59
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, no probably not really or as such at the moment in answer to your quesiton13:59
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, no they are not, they are in the purtine demo of Libertine stuff14:00
Dreamsy... they where installed on the tablet, unless you mean not baked in in the sense of "official support"14:00
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, hence why got to use a blue tooth keyboard for them currently to type for example, however I think the on screen keyboard fix is coming in the update next week where those will work like that then :)14:00
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, I mean as in the senes of not being a native program such as say the default browser, or camera program etc14:01
SebthreeBQM10HDnot something properly made for Ubuntu TOUCH as part of the OS properly14:01
Dreamsyright >> darn it (yay scope crash!)14:02
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, Libertine is a interesting add on, xmir stuff,  but will become more like it's a part of the actsual OS  in the future14:02
SebthreeBQM10HDfor example will be able to actsually click links in xchat in the future :D I think the next OTA not next weeks.  and eventually a seperate app store will come for Libertine/xmir programs even14:03
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, persoanlly I find all that more exciting than their convergence idea14:03
DreamsyCan't wait for chromium ;-;14:03
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, you could actsually have that already, but would have to use like a hack thing14:03
SebthreeBQM10HDto do that14:03
SebthreeBQM10HDlike edit the libertine container to add your addional programs etc and then put an icon on the thing yourself14:03
SuperEngineerDreamsy: re "if my keyboard/mouse go to sleep?".... pour coffee on them, slap them [gently] on the cheeks, converse with them, tell them sleeping is for wimps.  Do whatever it takes to stop them sleeping.14:04
DreamsySuperEngineer, +114:05
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, and give them to super to do weird things with!14:05
SebthreeBQM10HDto SuperEngineer14:05
DreamsySuperEngineer, ping them every ... I don't know how long14:05
DreamsySuperEngineer, Cattle Prod14:05
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, I think Libertine/xmir for now doesn't really have much control over OS features like being able to control suspend etc14:06
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, but yes maybe in a future update wil have some more control over that14:06
Dreamsybut you've seen it your end? where it threatens to close xchat or firefox? ><14:06
SuperEngineerCattle prod.. I hadn't thought of that one.. electic fence, aim, throw - that might work as well14:06
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, it's a bit like if yu play  music in Firefox in tablet mode or whatever it was, then go off that, it stops playing music, since it can't access the thing that plays music properly, or whatever it was14:07
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, nope FIrefox and Xchat have both mostly worked well for me on the HD14:07
Dreamsynot tried...14:07
* Dreamsy tries14:07
SebthreeBQM10HDsomtiems issues with trying to type with xchat though or something like that, but probably to do with my keyboard14:08
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, imagine being able to more offically be able to run lots of standard Desktop LInux programs, well that have been ported over to ARM, yep awesome :)14:09
SebthreeBQM10HDwell that will be coming in the future :)14:09
SebthreeBQM10HDmaybe that will stop the debate more about if Ubuntu Touch should possiby acsaully suppor Android apps14:09
Dreamsykdenlive on an m10 xD14:09
SebthreeBQM10HDwe got thousands of good programs made for the standard Desktop Linux :d  what about 20 years or so worth now even ?14:10
SebthreeBQM10HDDreamsy, you could try a unoffical hack type thing, and see what other programs you can run on there already,  but Canonical only have the default programs as programs they would say are supported and meant to work defeintly on the tablet at this time14:10
SebthreeBQM10HDso FIrefox, Gedi, Gimp,  Xchat14:10
SebthreeBQM10HDLibre Office14:10
DreamsyRan it on my samsung arm chromebook, edited the timeline then rendered on my desktop ><14:10
Dreamsyeither way :P thanks for the answer14:19
penguin42hmm, news.bbc seems to have very bad text layout - on my f24 box the decnders from the top line are lost; on my ubuntu box they're partially lost16:32
MooDoohello all, please correct me if I'm wrong, but popey are you the voice of mycroft?16:42
popeybleep bloop affirmative16:51
MooDoohehe :)16:53
MooDooread about it on the kickstarter update :)16:54
knightwisepopey: why not build a cat "bedtimestory" | microft > bedtime.wav  that way you can automatically read your kids a bedtimestory16:56
SuperEngineerJust had a quick snooze - woke up because of a nightmare. I was driving and popey was the voice on the satnav. :-017:07
SuperEngineer"turn left & listen to the Ubuntu podcast"17:08
SuperEngineer"turn left & listen to the Ubuntu podcast now"17:08
SuperEngineer"please turn around and listen to the17:09
SuperEngineerubuntu podecast"17:09
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daftykinsdid the car then need a kernel update? ;D17:28
Myrttiwow. great little purchase I did with that Peter Rabbit coin http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22218412290117:29
MyrttiI hope the receiver will value it appropriately17:29
penguin42heck nice17:31
Myrttiwas worth queuing and suffering the mints website17:32
SuperEngineerdaftykins: the car needed a reinstall!17:41
m0nkey_Evening all17:53
SuperEngineerjust checked the user list, m0nkey_ ,. unfortunately all" is not on this channel ;-)17:59
m0nkey_I'm not with it this morning18:01
m0nkey_Anyone ever used luks? I'm trying it out for my backups to be stored off site. Should I be aware of any dangers that might cause it to fail?18:04
m0nkey_probably known as dm-crypt18:04
penguin42m0nkey_: I use luks, but I don't back it up like that; if you're backing the entire partition up I think you should be OK; you can also make a backup of the keys sepratately if I understand correctly18:05
m0nkey_I've got it set-up so it can be unlocked using a passphrase or keyfile18:05
m0nkey_well, at least i think i have :)18:06
m0nkey_anywho.. keyfile is backed up18:06
m0nkey_just want to secure the data in case of the disk going missing at it's off-site location18:07
SuperEngineeralways better to buy an external disk, back up to that.  Trust the cloud???  no thanks18:07
m0nkey_the off-site location is a physical location on a physical disk18:08
SuperEngineertrust a remote site for backups, ditto18:08
m0nkey_i.e. i transport the drive myself :)18:08
SuperEngineerm0nkey_: cool18:08
SuperEngineerbest way18:08
SuperEngineer[and it proves you *are* with it, afterall]18:09
penguin42I can see some arguments for cloud backups - you can back it up to locations that are physically far from you, and do it often and back it up to multiple locations18:38
SuperEngineer I can see some arguments against cloud backups - you can back it up to locations that are physically hackable, and have it done often from multip[le locations ;-)18:46
penguin42well yeh, but if you encrypt it with your own keys then that's not too bad18:48
SuperEngineerpenguin42: you're determined to win this, aren't you?!  :-D18:49
penguin42SuperEngineer: No; I keep my backups on a USB stick....18:50
SuperEngineer[as in, no keys have ever been cracked. nope, none of them, never] ;-)18:50
m0nkey_stop willy waving, you're going to get diddledan excited.18:51
SuperEngineer"No; I keep my backups on a USB stick...." I knew were wise  penguin4218:51
penguin42SuperEngineer: Oh I agree about the keys; there was a nice slide in one of Snowden's sets about examples of what they were looking for18:51
SuperEngineerm0nkey_: lol18:51
penguin42SuperEngineer: and a slide on Debian's random number generator screwup18:52
SuperEngineerwhy not tell the public - as if "they" didn't know18:52
SuperEngineerpersonally, I have a large home build pc - and large trousers - and a teser.  I stick my large oc in my large trouser pocket and taze anybody who comes near me... the police do object though!18:54
penguin42 'oc' ?18:55
SuperEngineer[/me slaps wrist for poor keyboarding]18:55
penguin42SuperEngineer: Ah, you're not just happy to see me; it's your CDROM drive ejecting18:56
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zmoylan-pidecisions decisions, my cousin vinny or naked gun...23:11
daftykinsor, naked cousin vinny with a gun23:21

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