[08:19] <Kilos> morning all
[08:19] <Kilos> so wonderful only have power after 10am
[08:51] <paddatrapper> Morning Kilos 
[08:51] <paddatrapper> Eish...
[08:53] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper 
[08:54] <paddatrapper> Pretty quiet here today
[08:54] <Kilos> would be even more wonderful to have the power before 10 as well
[08:54] <Kilos> yeah peeps go shopping on saterdays
[10:11] <paddatrapper> superfly: QT5 and pyinstaller are finally working nicely!
[10:14] <superfly> paddatrapper: excellent 
[10:14] <paddatrapper> Now to get wine working to cross "compile"
[10:14] <superfly> paddatrapper: that's actually not too difficult 
[10:15] <paddatrapper> superfly: Yeah, just requires me installing wine right?
[10:21] <paddatrapper> superfly: With wine installed how do I run pyinstaller? wine pyinstaller <spec_file> doesn't work - throws an error
[10:24] <superfly> You need to install the Windows versions of everything 
[10:25] <paddatrapper> Ah ok
[10:26] <superfly> So, get Python from python.org
[10:27] <superfly> You might need to use winetricks to install some Windows dependencies 
[10:29] <superfly> Install PyWin32 from http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
[10:31] <superfly> And of course get PyQt5 from https://www.riverbankcomputing.com/software/pyqt/download5
[10:34] <nlsthzn> Good afternoon South Africa
[10:35] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[10:37] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos , all well I hope?
[10:37] <Kilos> yes ty and there?
[10:37] <nlsthzn> all good and toasty thanks
[10:41] <superfly> Hi nlsthzn! 
[10:41] <nlsthzn> hey superfly , long time no talk :)
[10:41] <paddatrapper> Hey nlsthzn 
[10:41] <superfly> nlsthzn: do you play WoW? 
[10:41] <nlsthzn> a wild paddatrapper appears :p - o/
[10:42] <nlsthzn> superfly, World of Warcraft?
[10:42] <superfly> Yes 
[10:42] <nlsthzn> nope, don't like the business model, paying every month regardless if you play 
[10:43] <superfly> I signed up for Hearthstone, and got a free "starter edition" WoW at the same time 
[10:43] <nlsthzn> you playing or looking to start?
[10:43] <nlsthzn> ah ok...
[10:44] <nlsthzn> I have the same thing... never used.  No point getting hooked :p
[10:44] <nlsthzn> are you enjoying hearthstone?
[10:44] <nlsthzn> I haven't played in months
[10:46] <superfly> Sortof
[10:47] <superfly> There are very few games that really stick with me 
[10:47] <superfly> Ingress is one of those 
[10:48] <superfly> Hearthstone currently doesn't look it
[10:48] <nlsthzn> if you enjoy card type games you should give duelyst a try... the browser version works well in linux
[10:48] <superfly> *to be
[10:48] <nlsthzn> the grind gets tedious in hearthstone
[10:48] <superfly> Ok, I'll do that 
[10:48] <nlsthzn> it is also free to play
[10:48] <superfly> I played a game years ago called Etherlords
[10:49] <nlsthzn> I played etherlords II way back when :)
[10:49] <nlsthzn> in the days I still played MTG
[10:49] <superfly> Ah, so you know it :) 
[10:49] <superfly> Never really played MTG
[10:50] <superfly> A little, but it didn't really stick with me either 
[10:50] <nlsthzn> <3 mtg
[10:50] <nlsthzn> sadly haven't played in almost ten years
[10:50] <nlsthzn> had one game at the recent comicon here... then the kid got sick and I had to leave the tourney :/
[10:54] <superfly> Real life kicked in, eh? :P
[10:55] <hibana> good day Kilos
[10:55] <nlsthzn> yup, life :p
[10:55] <Kilos> ohi hibana 
[10:55] <Kilos> what broke
[10:55] <hibana> oh and hi inetpro and others also
[10:55] <superfly> Oh dear, run for your lives! hibana is here! 
[10:55] <inetpro> wb hibana
[10:55] <nlsthzn> o/ hibana 
[10:55] <Kilos> lol
[10:55] <nlsthzn> oh hai inetpro 
[10:56] <hibana> superfly: am just making sure inetpro knows I'm still alive every so often
[10:56]  * nlsthzn joined the ubuntuforum again just in time for the hack >.<
[10:56] <hibana> thanks inetpro
[10:56] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:57] <inetpro> good evening everyone
[10:57] <Kilos> hibana when you giving my sjambok back to me?
[10:58]  * hibana just getting ready to kick inetpro out of here first
[10:58] <Kilos> ok
[10:58] <hibana> but only later...
[10:58]  * hibana wbb
[10:59] <inetpro> eh
[10:59] <inetpro> stoutgat
[11:00] <inetpro> nlsthzn: you hacked the forums?
[11:00] <nlsthzn> no, but my information got hacked with the forum >.<
[11:00] <inetpro> ouch!
[11:01] <nlsthzn> good thing I used my company e-mail and not my personal one
[11:01] <nlsthzn> grrr
[11:01] <nlsthzn> I should really ask them to unban my personal e-mail :p
[11:03] <inetpro> nlsthzn: it's just a clever way to get us all back to using the forums again
[11:04] <nlsthzn> oh, to change our info and ask to be removed? :p
[11:05] <inetpro> hmm...
[11:05] <inetpro> nlsthzn: is your account blocked?
[11:06] <nlsthzn> the one associated with my personal e-mail yes... happened when I left the forum some months ago
[11:07] <nlsthzn> silly SSO makes life difficult
[11:08] <inetpro> total # of posts by inetpro: 2 
[11:09] <inetpro> didn't know I was that inactive in all these years
[11:09] <Kilos> check  if i have ever been there
[11:13] <inetpro> Kilos: am not sure whether this is you https://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=1417403
[11:13] <inetpro> or somebody else using your name
[11:13] <inetpro> Join Date: August 25th, 2011
[11:13] <inetpro> Last Activity: May 28th, 2012
[11:14] <inetpro> nlsthzn: you trying to login from a mobile?
[11:15] <nlsthzn> no... I know what the issue is, just need to ask the admins to unban the e-mail
[11:15] <inetpro> ok
[11:15] <nlsthzn> but in general SSO is stupid and just a pain... almost all issues with the forum is SSO related 
[11:15] <nlsthzn> that and request to be removed from the forum
[11:15] <nlsthzn> see a couple again today
[11:23] <Kilos> lemme see
[11:26] <Kilos> whats the sso thing to login with
[11:28] <Kilos> ah thats me , ty inetpro 
[11:29] <Kilos> oh i think i joined then couldnt find what to do there 
[11:29] <Kilos> hehe
[11:33] <nlsthzn> :)
[11:39] <inetpro> nlsthzn: I remember seeing lots from you, why would you want to get outta there now?
[11:40] <nlsthzn> well, I am back actually...
[11:41] <nlsthzn> there was an incident some months ago ending up in me leaving and hard feelings with the staff etc... a sad time (which is why I haven't really been around in anything ubuntu related for sometime now)
[11:53] <nlsthzn> wb inetpro hibana 
[11:53] <hibana> thanks nlsthzn
[11:53] <hibana> inetpro: what are you doing?
[11:53] <inetpro> uh oh!
[11:54] <inetpro> hmm...
[11:55] <Kilos> ai! wat nou
[11:55] <inetpro> give me a break hibana
[11:55]  * inetpro just playing around a bit
[11:55] <Kilos> then dont go uh oh
[11:55] <inetpro> ok oom
[11:55] <Kilos> lol
[11:55] <Kilos> so cheeky
[11:57]  * inetpro wbb
[11:57]  * nlsthzn hears a baby bear awake... babysitting time :p - catch later :)
[11:57] <Kilos> enjoy
[12:11] <hibana> ai!
[12:18] <Kilos> wat nou
[12:18] <Kilos> ai!
[12:19] <Kilos> uh oh and ai! both mean something isnt right
[12:19] <Kilos> hibana you killed goosie
[12:20] <hibana> sorry oom
[12:28] <hibana> Kilos: I'll see if I can fix him up again tomorrow 
[12:31] <Kilos> oh my
[12:56] <Kilos> whew another 71meg upgrade
[12:58] <Kilos> wbb system restart needed to complete the process
[13:02] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:13] <Kilos> now my kde is lekker, exactly as it was before
[13:13] <Kilos> hehe
[14:21] <hibana> what did you break Kilos?
[14:25] <Kilos> upgraded
[14:26] <Kilos> 14.04 doesnt break
[14:26] <Kilos> been my best OS so far
[14:26] <Kilos> takes a poor typed dd command to kill it
[14:28] <hibana> so you upgraded to what?
[14:29] <Kilos> normal upgrade of kernel stuffs and security stuffs
[14:29] <Kilos> generic image etc
[14:29] <Kilos> jy weet daai goed man
[14:30] <Kilos> in other words im still on 14.04
[14:30] <hibana> hmm... but somewhere in between you must have had something wrong if you are back to "exactly as it was before"
[14:30] <Kilos> no
[14:30] <Kilos> before was perfect for me and still is
[14:31] <hibana> hmm...
[14:31] <Kilos> just a stupid knotify thing crashes once a day and needs a restart
[14:31] <Kilos> been like that from the beginning
[14:32]  * pavlushka curious to know which one?
[14:32] <Kilos> ill take more notice next time it pops up
[14:42] <Kilos> pavlushka http://pasteboard.co/ccjiYo5Tb.png
[14:44] <Kilos> but it restarts fine so no a hassle, just one more click of the mouse
[14:44] <Kilos> i have sent some bug reports but havent followed up on it
[15:03] <hibana> some interesting emails in the background of that image
[15:03] <hibana> was that on purpose?
[15:03] <Kilos> haha
[15:03] <Kilos> nope that is where it crashed
[15:04]  * hibana now knows all his secret addresses
[15:04] <Kilos> haha
[15:04] <Kilos> i have no need to hide anything
[15:14] <nlsthzn> famous last words
[15:40] <hibana> Kilos: big improvements coming in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS in the coming days
[15:40] <Kilos> i read so yes
[15:41] <Kilos> makes me wish i had it
[15:42] <hibana> believe it only when you see it
[15:43] <hibana> will only be good for the rest of the ecosystem if it happens
[15:49] <hibana> Kilos: what's on the menu for the evening sir?
[15:49] <Kilos> shivering
[15:49] <Kilos> cold already
[15:55] <Kilos> hibana what did you break
[15:55] <Kilos> poor inetpro out in the cold
[15:57] <Kilos> but hibana will that unity improvement work for us as well
[15:57] <Kilos> that is the improvement you are talking about right?
[16:00] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:00] <Kilos> knotify4
[16:00] <Kilos> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[16:00] <Kilos> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[16:06] <nlsthzn> naughty applications :p
[16:06] <Kilos> lol
[16:42] <nlsthzn> the unity improvement will make unity less of a resource hog, has no real impact on anything else
[16:42] <nlsthzn> but hey, unity 8 will ship in 2015 so there is that too
[16:42] <nlsthzn> >.>
[16:56] <Kilos> hibana what is going to improve for kde 16.04
[16:57] <Kilos> seems like he has fallen asleep
[17:00] <nlsthzn> well KDE has been updated to almost the latest plasma 5.6.9 (latest being 5.7.0)
[17:00] <nlsthzn> and it is pretty stable
[17:00] <Kilos> is that whats coming soon
[17:01] <Langjan> It's here!
[17:01] <Kilos> hi Langjan what broke
[17:01] <Kilos> what
[17:01] <Langjan> hi Kilos - whatever was coming soon
[17:01] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:01] <Langjan> you ok?
[17:01] <Kilos> no man new kde stuff
[17:02] <Kilos> yes im ok ty
[17:02] <Langjan> eish, more things to break! Lmga
[17:02] <Kilos> how are you in this cold
[17:02] <Langjan> Good
[17:02] <Kilos> lol
[17:02] <Langjan> Fine thks, not too cold here innie bosveld
[17:02] <Kilos> whew very cold here
[17:03] <Langjan> Sjoe! Skeer 'n skaap en brei 'n trui. Did you see my message re Zorin?
[17:03] <Kilos> yes ty
[17:04] <Langjan> But my pal does not want to know. 
[17:04] <Kilos> someone actually asked about zorin here
[17:04] <Kilos> you can take a horse to water, but you cant make it drink
[17:04] <Langjan> When you go over 80 you dont want to try new things - sadly!
[17:05] <Kilos> then he must mar just accept glazed drives etc
[17:05] <Langjan> lmga! yes
[17:05] <Kilos> and forking out money every now and again
[17:05] <Langjan> hes happy to do that - his decision
[17:06] <Kilos> tell him when it happens again and they say he must get a new pc you will take over the scrap from him
[17:06] <Langjan> so looking at getting him a good 160 GB drive - looks like I can pick one up for R100  plus postage from Durbs
[17:07] <Langjan> then install Windoze 7 if its not already there
[17:08] <Kilos> thats cheap
[17:08] <Kilos> new drive?
[17:09] <Langjan> No, secoond hand. There seems to be quite a few around at that price.   
[17:09] <Kilos> whew
[17:09] <Langjan> Gumtree
[17:09] <Kilos> everyone going either TB drives or ssd
[17:09] <Langjan> yes I think that's it
[17:10] <Kilos> just remember when you fit it with 7 dont allow any upgrades
[17:11] <Langjan> Oh, Amazon sent me a link to communicate with Intel re the SSD and to get back to them if I dont come right 
[17:11] <Kilos> one of the upgrades auto upgrades to 10
[17:11] <Kilos> good
[17:11] <Langjan> will keep that in mind thanks
[17:11] <Kilos> as long as you have notified them then its on record
[17:12] <Langjan> Yes good idea, thanks for that - I had forgotten about the 5-year warranty
[17:12] <Kilos> then will be easier if more sectors go
[17:13] <Langjan> Yes, I will check it now and then - for all I know it was like that from the beginning...
[17:13] <Kilos> could be yes
[17:14] <Langjan> Really did not even think about checking it
[17:14] <Langjan> Any updates from Debs?
[17:15] <Kilos> just watched the stormers game with her commenting on the side
[17:15] <Kilos> its only this coming friday she goves for results
[17:15] <Kilos> but im sure if it was cancer they would have phoned
[17:16] <Langjan> OK, hoping for the best. Sharks irritated me last night 
[17:16] <Kilos> so we hope and pray and stress
[17:16] <Kilos> i didnt watch
[17:16] <Kilos> did they at least win
[17:17] <Langjan> Stress only aggravates whatever is bugging - peeps not made to handle stress
[17:17] <Kilos> yeah
[17:17] <Kilos> not easy to turn off though
[17:18] <Langjan> Impossible for us to turn off but the Lord is ready and waiting to do it for us
[17:18] <Langjan> Sorry, gotta go for dinner, chat later
[17:19] <Kilos> enjoy
[17:58] <Langjan> Hi Kilos 
[17:58] <Langjan> watching the bulls?
[17:59] <Kilos> yessir
[17:59] <Langjan> score?
[17:59] <Kilos> was hoping the cheetahs could win but i dont think they can
[17:59] <Kilos> 11/3 i think
[17:59] <Kilos> forgot now its half time
[18:00] <Langjan> well I dont think it will make much difference
[18:00] <Langjan> they cant catch the sharks for playoffs
[18:00] <Kilos> i think if the bulls lose sharks make 1/4 finls
[18:01] <Kilos> oh
[18:01] <Langjan> they make it anyway
[18:01] <Kilos> yay
[18:02] <Langjan> Sharks six points ahead
[18:02] <Langjan> 37-43
[18:02] <Kilos> yay
[18:02] <Kilos> but they are playing poor rugger
[18:03] <Langjan> Agreed, they were up for bonus point 2 mins before time then kicked the ball away and let Sunwolves in for a try
[18:04] <Kilos> often they kick good possesion away for nothing
[18:05] <Langjan> then flyhalf did not know the rules, kicked penalty over touchline after the whistle and had to do the lineout on 25 where it should have been on 5 metre line 
[18:05] <Kilos> at times you need to keep control of the ball
[18:05] <Kilos> eeish
[18:05] <Langjan> they will lose quartes for sure if they dont adapt and I dont think they can, too used to kick and charge rubbish
[18:06] <Langjan> Enjouy the game, chat later
[18:06] <Kilos> im gonna sleep soon
[18:06] <Langjan> Slaap lekker
[18:06] <Kilos> if im gone when your later arrives sleep well
[18:06] <Langjan> mooi loop
[18:06] <Kilos> dankie oom jy ook
[18:06] <Langjan> thks Kilos 
[18:07] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:10] <theblazehen> Wow. This sucks. Do an API call that should fail. Doesn't fail the *right* way. Returns a HTTP 200 for a failiure. Now instead of doing if(request,status !=200){raiseException;} I now need to see if a json key exists...
[21:23] <Guest21954> there life in here?