[00:01] <Tin_man> maestrojed, i found this which is howtogeek, I like the site, hope this will help
[00:01] <Tin_man> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/add-a-user-on-ubuntu-server/
[00:03] <maestrojed> Tin_man from that article " I find it slightly funny that there are two virtually identically named commands that do the same thing, but that’s linux for you."
[00:03] <maestrojed> yeah. HAHAHA funny!
[00:03] <maestrojed> :)
[00:03] <Tin_man> i've found over the time, that howtogeek comes up with some pretty good stuff..
[00:04] <Guest21118> oijjio
[00:10] <oem> can someone tell me how to reset my xbox 360 axis and button mapping? its all scrambled somehow
[00:13] <ubuntu-mate> hey guys
[00:13] <geekinutah> is there a way I can force the emergency initrd shell?
[00:13] <ubuntu-mate> idk\
[00:14] <geekinutah> like a kernel commandline option or something?
[00:14] <ubuntu-mate> perhaps yeah+
[00:15] <Bashing-om> geekinutah: Boot to the grub boot menu .. ubuntu kernel selected for boot .. and press the 'c' key for a (C)ommnad line interface .
[00:16] <riz0n> Hello guys... I have a really big problem, and I hope you can help me solve it. I have Ubuntu 14.04.3 on a mighty old HP DL380 G3 server. After a couple of days I get an "NMI PCI System Error" message in the kernel log, and everything goes downhill from there. My research tells me that the error is most likely due to the video drivers. I do not know what is in the machine, but I do not have
[00:16] <riz0n> "X" set up, all CLi (it is a server)... what do I need to do or put in grub to get this thing to boot using the most BASIC video drivers out there to see if I can stop the NMI errors?
[00:18] <geekinutah> Bashing-om: and then append "break" to the line that starts with linux?
[00:19] <geekinutah> I found this elsewhere, about to try
[00:20] <Bashing-om> geekinutah: What is the end goal here .. a particular issue ?
[00:24] <nacc> maxb: you're right, sorry
[00:24] <nacc> maxb: iirc, root login is disabled by default
[00:25] <nacc> maestrojed: fwiw, i would just create a second user properly
[00:26] <maestrojed> nacc  I did :)
[00:26] <maestrojed> nacc thanks
[00:26] <nacc> maestrojed: cool, that's probably the most straightforward "fix" :)
[00:27] <maestrojed> yeap. Next I will remove password authentication for these users. Then I should be in a good spot
[00:27] <maestrojed> I guess i should consider a firewall.
[00:28] <nacc> geekinutah: there is break (iirc) and also break= to have it drop to a shell at a paritcular point
[00:29] <nacc> geekinutah: some documentation here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot
[00:31] <geekinutah> thanks you much nacc
[00:31] <Tin_man> maestrojed, i've been reading a little on this pdf, here is the link
[00:31] <Tin_man> http://dos.deltaschools.com/linux-code/serverguide.pdf
[00:32] <geekinutah> Bashing-om: I'm getting an error from mdadm, even though this box doesn't have any mdraid
[00:32] <geekinutah> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1335642
[00:32] <geekinutah> similar to this bug report
[00:32] <geekinutah> same error message at least
[00:33] <Bashing-om> geekinutah: A new install ? .. and raid meta data on one of the hard drives ??
[00:33] <Guy1524> so in my last installation, my /filesystem took up 15.8 GB how much do you think I should allocate in my new installation
[00:33] <geekinutah> no
[00:33] <Guy1524> (15.8 used)
[00:34] <Guy1524> im thinking 20 GB
[00:34] <geekinutah> we just copied an entire LUN (dd) to a new LUN
[00:34] <geekinutah> may have screwed up the copy, but I want to jump in the emergency shell and poke around a bit see if I can spot a quick problem
[00:34] <tortib> I have no sound in my vmware player workstation
[00:34] <tortib> Is there a module for vmware?  It only has alsa
[00:36] <maestrojed> Thanks Tin_man
[00:36] <Tin_man> no problem
[00:39] <oem> can someone tell me how to go about resetting a joystick configuration? somehow it thinks the trigger buttons are axis
[01:00] <Hydr0p0nX> can any help ? I'm getting this error on my mythbuntu 14.04 install - it's been running for over a year with no issues and this just started when I got in from work today - http://paste.ubuntu.com/19571250/ I can't login as my user, but the guest login appears to work
[01:02] <tortib> Anyone know how I can get USB working with kvm-spice?
[01:04] <oem> i would seriously pay someone if they could get these controllers working
[01:05] <minasota> How long ago did this happen  https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/07/15/notice-of-security-breach-on-ubuntu-forums/
[01:07] <tgm4883> minasota: you want to know when the original breach happened?
[01:07] <minasota> tgm4883: yes
[01:07] <tgm4883> minasota: AFAIK, that is unknown
[01:08] <tgm4883> minasota: why?
[01:10] <Guy1524> how big should my EFI System Partition be?
[01:11] <minasota> "At 20:33 UTC on 14th July 2016" Is what the link says. Just curious about the response time
[01:11] <Guy1524> is 250MB enough
[01:12] <tgm4883> minasota: well you're asking in a support channel with a bunch of volunteers that aren't going to have inside information
[01:12] <tgm4883> minasota: also, not really a support question
[01:12] <tgm4883> minasota: but since that was yesterday, I'd say pretty quickly?
[01:14] <Jordan_U> Guy1524: 250 MB should be enough, yes.
[01:14] <minasota> tgm4883: I can't respond to that question, not a "support" topic... Thanks anyway
[01:14] <skweek> is there a problem with creating an invisible swap file and keeping it in your home directory if you for instance didn't have the space on a root partition, where you have a seperate home partition
[01:14] <Guy1524> Jordan_U: thanks
[01:14] <Jordan_U> Guy1524: You're welcome.
[01:15] <Jordan_U> skweek: I'm not sure what you mean by "invisible". You can't hibernate to a swap file (with the default hibernation implementation in Ubuntu).
[01:15] <skweek> I mean to just prepend a .
[01:16] <Jordan_U> skweek: Ahh, the standard terminology is "hidden" :)
[01:16] <tgm4883> skweek: your swap partition doesn't need to be anywhere near your root partition
[01:19] <Hydr0p0nX> k, well I've found my problem, just not sure how it happened
[01:20] <jsheedy> maybe an X update?
[01:21] <sikun> So at the data center I work at, me and the two others that work for the company that owns the data center all get the DMCA copyright infringement emails for customers that have pirated moves/tv shows/etc... on our networks (we provide bandwidth/IP space to an ISP), this morning I came up with the best idea for handling these, especially the repeat offenders. So we make a script that automatically detects the DMCA emails, grabs the IP address from it, looks it
[01:21] <sikun> up in a database to get the customers email and sends them an email... but, if they get anymore than two the email would then contain this video along with the cease and desist. https://youtu.be/Zx40udwQvZI
[01:22] <tgm4883> sikun: wrong channel
[01:25] <ozbrk> guys this is serious
[01:25] <ozbrk> I need a free vpn provider
[01:25] <ozbrk> something massive is happening in Turkey look at the news
[01:25] <ozbrk> please help to find a trusty oe
[01:25] <ozbrk> one*
[01:26] <sikun> ozbrk: TOR?
[01:26] <jsheedy> a coup
[01:26] <ozbrk> sikun: thay might help
[01:26] <sikun> ozbrk, if you need a private bridge to get a connection to the TOR network, PM me and I'll set one up for you.
[01:27] <YankDownUnder> ozbrk: https://www.bestvpn.com/best-free-vpn-july-2016/
[01:27] <ozbrk> we don't know i it is a coup or not there were coups in history. But the parlament buildinf have never been hit
[01:27] <ozbrk> noe it take three
[01:28] <ozbrk> tell me what would you do if White House have been hit by US Army
[01:28] <bazhang> !ot | ozbrk
[01:28] <tgm4883> I'm not sure I'd trust a free VPN for privacy
[01:28] <ozbrk> bazhang: I know!
[01:29] <bazhang> ozbrk, this is not the channel for this, so please Stop asking here
[01:29] <Hydr0p0nX> anyone have a nice easy way to identify what's consuming all of my disk space?
[01:29] <Hydr0p0nX> suddenly went from about 80GB used to 500GB in use
[01:29] <tgm4883> Hydr0p0nX: 'du / | sort -n -r | head'
[01:30] <theskillwithin> is there a web dev, or developer meta package for ubuntu?  like including git and such?
[01:33] <tgm4883> theskillwithin: doesn't seem to be one
[01:37] <theskillwithin> tgm4883, aww that makes me a sad panda
[01:37] <YankDownUnder> theskillwithin: There are heaps of packages for doing webdev...just a matter of looking...and settling on what you think works best for you, really.
[01:37] <theskillwithin> so I have been googling web dev metapackage
[01:37] <theskillwithin> I think i am looking in the wrong places
[01:37] <tgm4883> YankDownUnder: he was looking for a metapackage
[01:38] <theskillwithin> lol Idk I expected git to come pre-installed
[01:38] <theskillwithin> idk why i*
[01:38] <tgm4883> theskillwithin: it's preinstalled on ubuntu server, for some dumb reason
[01:38] <YankDownUnder> I'll go back to my coffee and porridge.
[01:38] <theskillwithin> on osx there is like a"developer" package you install
[01:39] <owen1> i would like to use the default .Xresources file. how do i get one?
[01:39] <tgm4883> theskillwithin: Look around, you aren't on OSX
[01:39] <tgm4883> theskillwithin: you're free to make a metapackage for it if you want
[01:39] <fpqc> hi there, I was wondering, I wanted to recompile a few packages, strace and sudo, where can I find the sources for trusty?
[01:39] <theskillwithin> oo this might be fun, I might try to set up sudo to work with a yubi key instead of typing my pw in every time
[01:40] <tgm4883> fpqc: "apt source <package_name_that_contains_those_files>" ?
[01:40] <theskillwithin> im installing oh my zsh now
[01:41] <fpqc> tgm4883, well I'm on xenial but I want to recompile trusty's sudo
[01:41] <fpqc> bc reasons
[01:41] <theskillwithin> hmm is there like a web site that shows the apt-get packages
[01:41] <fpqc> and install it in /usr/local
[01:41] <tgm4883> fpqc: install 14.04 in a lxd container and pull it down there
[01:41] <fpqc> messing around with a nonstandard kernel
[01:41] <tgm4883> fpqc: or you could download it manually
[01:42] <fpqc> tgm4883 and then what, just sudo install /usr/local/bin ?
[01:42] <fpqc> sudo install sudo pkgname /usr/local/bin
[01:42] <tgm4883> fpqc: huh?
[01:42] <tgm4883> fpqc: you'd still need to compile and install them
[01:43] <fpqc> tgm sure couldn't I just manually download the binary with wget
[01:43] <fpqc> or should I recompile from source
[01:43] <tgm4883> fpqc: you should recompile
[01:44] <Hydr0p0nX> I think i have a root filesystem problem
[01:44] <tgm4883> fpqc: grabbing the binary probably won't work since it's going to be built against trusty stuff
[01:44] <fpqc> mhm
[01:44] <Hydr0p0nX> 451 - 420 != 7.5 right ?
[01:44] <fpqc> so where can I manually find the sources
[01:44] <fpqc> and also how can I make sure that when I do make install it gets installed to /usr/local instead of /
[01:44] <tgm4883> fpqc: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/strace    http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/sudo
[01:44] <tgm4883> fpqc: with the questions you're asking, might I ask why you are doing this?
[01:45] <fpqc> tgm4883 you're not going to like the answer =\
[01:45] <tgm4883> fpqc: why is that
[01:45] <fpqc> bc I'm using a very unsupported configuration =<
[01:46] <tgm4883> fpqc: how unsupported?
[01:46] <fpqc> my linux is windows
[01:46] <tgm4883> fpqc: you're using the ubuntu on win 10 stuff?
[01:46] <fpqc> yeah but upgrading to xenial
[01:46] <fpqc> but strace and sudo are broken in xenial
[01:46] <tgm4883> fpqc: hmm
[01:46] <fpqc> so I need to back-install the trusty versions
[01:47] <tgm4883> fpqc: well, there's a whole channel for ubuntu on windows stuff  #ubuntu-on-windows
[01:47] <fpqc> in /usr/local so they don't get obliterated by apt upgrade
[01:47] <tgm4883> fpqc: so you might want to at least let them know that it's broken with 16.04
[01:47] <tgm4883> maybe file a bug
[01:47] <tgm4883> fpqc: you can grab the sources from the links above
[01:47] <fpqc> tgm4883 it's not a bug, xenial isn't supported yet
[01:47] <fpqc> yeah tgm4883 okay so let me explain what I mean
[01:48] <fpqc> I've built packages from source before with cmake
[01:48] <fpqc> but there is an option DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=
[01:48] <fpqc> and you would put /usr/local in that
[01:48] <tgm4883> ok
[01:48] <fpqc> how do I do that with things that don't use cmake
[01:49] <tgm4883> fpqc: Depends on what those packages use. I've seen --prefix=<DIR> as well as INSTALL_ROOT depending on what's being used
[01:49] <tgm4883> fpqc: you might just have to dig into the packaging of it
[01:50] <fpqc> tgm4883 edit in the makefile?
[01:51] <fpqc> or where should I look?
[01:52] <fpqc> also, what packages to I need to install in order to build?
[01:52] <fpqc> is there an ubuntu package I can install that works like base-dev in arch?
[01:52] <fpqc> that installs all the build tools
[01:52] <tgm4883> fpqc: actually, download the source and the debian tarball and you should see the .install files in there
[01:52] <tgm4883> fpqc: build-essential
[01:52] <fpqc> ah
[01:53] <fpqc> cool thanks
[01:53] <tgm4883> fpqc: good luck, I've got to cook some dinner
[01:53] <fpqc> oh wait really quick, is there a package called build that has more tools?
[01:53] <fpqc> that's more extensive than build-essential?
[01:55] <theskillwithin> hmm maybe I should change away from the default ubuntu theme, but I do like the sidebar better than osx's on this one tho
[01:56] <tortib> I need help getting USB working on kvm-qemu using virt-manager, it isn't detecting the USB device in the guest OS
[02:00] <_AxS_> hey all -- i've got a T420 (with nvidia+intel that doesn't have a bios-controlled discrete mode) that has ubuntu 14.something installed; i'm trying to get prime working.  nvidia-331 and nvidia-prime is installed, but prime-select fails with an 'alternatives' error.  Also the auto-generated xorg.conf oinly has one entry which maps to the intel...  any ideas?
[02:03] <Guy1524> hey guys, so in the official ubuntu repositories, the latest nvidia driver is 361, how do I get more recent drivers like 364 or 367
[02:03] <tgm4883> Guy1524: you enable the graphics PPA https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[02:04] <Guy1524> ok thanks
[02:04] <Guy1524> are these drivers any less stable than the ones in the official ubuntu repos?
[02:05] <tgm4883> Guy1524: read the page for the warnings
[02:05] <Guy1524> ok thanks
[02:06] <Guy1524> would you happen to know if nvidia-361 has support for vulkan?
[02:09] <theskillwithin> hmm how do I get php7 in my cli
[02:09] <theskillwithin> like:   php  myphpfile.php
[02:12] <Guest42811> hey I have an ubuntu question I looked on the forums and online search couldn't find and answer
[02:12] <Guest42811> Running 16.04 and have built in speakers in my laptop and also external speakers connected via aux port, I want to play sound from both speakers at the same time
[02:13] <Guest42811> I have seen answers using the realtek audio manager on a Windows pc, but the sound settings on ubuntu is lacking the same intricacy
[02:13] <Guest42811> Any advice would be highly appreciated
[02:16] <YankDownUnder> Guest42811: There are many options in Ubuntu. This is truly not a new question. Have you looked into the forums, or have you experimented with the sound settings/hardware settings on your system as of yet?
[02:17] <Guest42811> YankDownUnder: Yes I have experimented with system sound settings, they are very minimal, is there perhaps an alternative sound management/settings program I can download?
[02:17] <jsheedy> alsamixer?
[02:17] <Guest42811> I have perused the forums to no avail, and online searches via google only come back with Windows related options and solutions
[02:18] <uberdub> I cant do this any more
[02:18] <YankDownUnder> Guest42811: Alsamixer is one. If you look through the "Software Centre" - or even better yet, if you install "Synpatic Package Manager" - you can see all of the different mixing programs/utilities - along with heaps other sound/audio related stuff...there's actually tonnes.
[02:18] <uberdub> im istalling windows
[02:18] <uberdub> this is just ridiculous
[02:18] <Guest42811> Alsamixer, ok
[02:18] <YankDownUnder> uberdub: I'm sorry for your pain.
[02:18] <uberdub> I need a system that actually works that I dont have to be tinkering on for hours just to use
[02:19] <Guest42811> If i grab alsamixer is it a simple fix? can you guide me through the process? YankDownUnder
[02:19] <uberdub> to use basic functions no less
[02:19] <_AxS_> uberdub: what do you need it to do that it's not doing yet?
[02:19] <uberdub> run without issues
[02:19] <jsheedy> maybe already installed?
[02:19] <uberdub> linux is just still not ready for endusers
[02:19] <_AxS_> Guest42811: alsamixer from the command line will allow you to un-mute everything, which as long as you have driver support should likely be all you need to do.
[02:19] <_AxS_> uberdub: you need to be a *lot* more specific.
[02:20] <YankDownUnder> Guest42811: I can't "guide you through" - as per my last comment, you should install "Synaptic Package Manager" and truly look at all there is...if you want a fast fix, well, I can only state "Alsamixer"...but remember, patience is a virtue.
[02:20] <uberdub> im not a developer I dont have time for this crap
[02:20] <uberdub> how bout boot up?
[02:20] <Guest42811> YankDownUnder thank you
[02:20] <uberdub> for starters
[02:20] <Guest42811> _AxS_ i want to play music from both internal and external speakers, i hope this works
[02:20] <uberdub> its so senstitve
[02:20] <jsheedy> userdub: arrow right a lot
[02:20] <jsheedy> oops
[02:20] <YankDownUnder> uberdub: Oddly enough, thousands of folks have absolutely no issue in doing an installation of Ubuntu. I'm sorry you're one that's having issues, but please do not take it out on all of us here - that are merely USERS and not PAID EMPLOYEES. Hmm?
[02:21] <jsheedy> wrong person
[02:21] <_AxS_> uberdub: how did you install it?
[02:21] <uberdub> steamos was garbage
[02:21] <uberdub> dude
[02:21] <uberdub> Ive been running linux for 12 years
[02:21] <uberdub> its installed fine
[02:21] <_AxS_> then why's it not booting up?
[02:21] <uberdub> but it never stays that way
[02:22] <uberdub> idk
[02:22] <YankDownUnder> uberdub: Good for you. Glad to hear it. But please don't attach or whine and whinge at me - or anyone else in this channel. If you're frustated, take it out on someone or something else.
[02:22] <Tin_man> so after 12 years it broke?
[02:22] <uberdub> Im not going to get a cs degre trying to figure it out either
[02:23] <uberdub> idk wtf is wrong with this alienware garbage
[02:23] <uberdub> ubuntu is sensitive
[02:23] <Guy1524> hey guys, after installing nvidia-361, my computer takes much longer to boot.  Before it didn't even take 5 seconds and now it takes 30.  Plus there is no ubuntu splash screen anymore, just a purple screen
[02:23] <_AxS_> oh gawd, so its a dell..
[02:23] <uberdub> steamos was buggy crap
[02:23] <uberdub> steam machine
[02:23] <_AxS_> Guy1524: isn't proprietary drivers fun?
[02:23]  * YankDownUnder giggles at Alienware/Dell
[02:23] <YankDownUnder> Time for donuts and coffee.
[02:23] <uberdub> kubuntu doesnt run any better on this hardware
[02:24] <plop_its_ellie> steam os is not "stable" yet
[02:24] <_AxS_> uberdub: why would it?  the only difference is kde vs gnome or whatever
[02:24] <Guy1524> _AxS_: well nouveau performs like shit and doesn't work w/ steam right
[02:24] <plop_its_ellie> valve time
[02:24] <_AxS_> Guy1524: yep.  welcome to the life of an nvidia user
[02:24] <uberdub> if its not stable why they release it?
[02:24] <uberdub> why is it in the wild for endusers?
[02:24] <plop_its_ellie> when you install the proprietary nvidia drivers the framebuffer gets all messsed up so your boot looks ugly
[02:25] <_AxS_> uberdub: because people want to use it even if its not fully stable
[02:25] <plop_its_ellie> a workaround would be to disable the splash screen entirely
[02:25] <uberdub> so ship it with a boxed "console"????
[02:25] <uberdub> I cant even get into that stuff now
[02:25] <uberdub> and it wants me to reinstall
[02:25] <Guy1524> here is my dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19580228/
[02:26] <uberdub> except this this only comes with steam controller
[02:26] <uberdub> I cant even click on the window to reinstall(again) because I dont have a wired mouse
[02:26] <_AxS_> Guy1524: nvidia-drivers and the framebuffer (any of them) are incompatible.  if you try to make them both work together you are likely to get segfaults.  just don't.  if you want performance, you will have to forego the pretty console stuff
[02:27] <plop_its_ellie> uberdub, its not shipped as a final product, you are basically beta testing/playing with it
[02:27] <tgm4883> uberdub: Is this going to drift towards a support question soon?
[02:27] <Guy1524> _AxS_: I just dont want my boot to hang for 25 seconds
[02:27] <Guy1524> see the jump from 3 to 28
[02:27] <uberdub> for the first time in 12 years..im installing winblows
[02:28] <uberdub> god I want to punch something
[02:28] <Guy1524> why are you installing it?
[02:28] <uberdub> how did I get suckered in to this
[02:28] <Guy1524> you did pirate it right lol
[02:28] <tgm4883> Guy1524: systemd-analyze plot > plot.svg
[02:28] <uberdub> becaue I want a functioning machine
[02:28] <theskillwithin> how do I install php7?   particularly for the cli
[02:28] <_AxS_> Guy1524: well, NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 23s! [nvidia-smi:487]  <-- that's your problem.  newer (or older) driver might help
[02:28] <uberdub> I dont even know how to pirate that crap its been so long
[02:29] <tgm4883> can we stay on topic please
[02:29] <uberdub> I downloaded win10 pro
[02:29] <_AxS_> Guy1524: but as i said, try to disable the framebuffer or ensure no framebuffer is loaded
[02:29] <Guy1524> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:29] <tgm4883> Guy1524: uh, thanks?
[02:29] <uberdub> topic: how to delete ubuntu, and install win?
[02:29] <tgm4883> uberdub: you install windows
[02:29] <uberdub> how?
[02:29] <tgm4883> !windows
[02:29] <Guy1524> tgm4883: I thought you wanted the output
[02:30] <plop_its_ellie> steam os is not a stable or final product at yet lol
[02:30] <tgm4883> uberdub: try there ^
[02:30] <tgm4883> Guy1524: well the output you are going to get is an image file
[02:30] <Guy1524> _AxS_: how do I do that
[02:30] <plop_its_ellie> lol why is there a !windows here
[02:30] <tgm4883> plop_its_ellie: so we can direct windows users to the right channel
[02:30] <Guy1524> tgm4883: derp
[02:30] <Guy1524> I sent you the wrong link
[02:30] <Hydr0p0nX> woohoo ! figured out what caused my space issues
[02:30] <plop_its_ellie> tgm4883, oh, i didnt know that happened on a regular basis
[02:30] <tgm4883> Guy1524: yea :)
[02:31] <tgm4883> plop_its_ellie: yep, way more often than it should be
[02:31] <uberdub> with startup disk creator?
[02:31] <_AxS_> Guy1524: well i'm a gentooer so for me, it's rebuild the kernel and make sure theyre all off.  for ubuntu, theres likely an easier way
[02:31] <tgm4883> uberdub: no idea
[02:31] <Guy1524> _AxS_: ok, one sec
[02:31] <tgm4883> uberdub: I'd doubt the startup disk creator can do it though. You could try
[02:31] <uberdub> ubuntu shouldnt be having issues as well.
[02:31] <Guy1524> tgm4883: I tried pastebiniting it
[02:32] <Guy1524> do you want me to send you the image?
[02:32] <tgm4883> Guy1524: you'd have to upload it to imgur
[02:32] <tgm4883> Guy1524: probably not necessary since plop_its_ellie pointed out why it was booting slow
[02:32] <tgm4883> but you can if you want
[02:32] <uberdub> so youre telling me this hardware just doesnt play nice?
[02:32] <_AxS_> Anybody know how to fix nvidia-prime so i can actually use the nvidia side, on ubuntu 14.04?
[02:32] <Guy1524> imgur doesn't want to take teh image
[02:32] <_AxS_> prime-select keeps failing on 'alternatives'
[02:33] <Guy1524> ill upload it to my server
[02:35] <Guy1524> tgm4883: http://173.72.189.135/plot.svg
[02:35] <uberdub> it is going to be amazing when things actually work
[02:35] <uberdub> been a glutton for punishment for so long
[02:36] <Guy1524> plop_its_ellie: sorry I didn't see your earlier message, how do I disabled the splash screen entirely
[02:36] <uberdub> imagine a worls, where you click on something....and you dont have to hardcode it, or edit a config file, or spend hours or days getting apps to do basic functions
[02:37] <tgm4883> uberdub: I'm too busy trying to imagine a world where you stay on topic
[02:37] <_AxS_> Guy1524: ok i see you're booting with 'efifb' ..  i'm still using older non-efi systems so i can't say if you can even make that optional
[02:37] <HoloIRCUser> !ot > uberdub:
[02:37] <Guy1524> tgm4883: lol
[02:38] <uberdub> like right now
[02:39] <uberdub> god forbid you plug in a thumb drive and it works with out screwing with it just to get it to mount
[02:39] <uberdub> this was fun 10 years ago when I worked in it
[02:39] <_AxS_> uberdub: dood, have you just not updated your installs since 2004 ?
[02:39] <tgm4883> uberdub: any support questions coming?
[02:40] <plop_its_ellie> Guy1524, you can edit /etc/default/grub file
[02:40] <plop_its_ellie> replace "splash" with text
[02:40] <plop_its_ellie> then run the command "update-grub"
[02:40] <_AxS_> plop_its_ellie: can efifb be disabled via a kernel commandline option?
[02:40] <Guy1524> ok thanks
[02:40] <plop_its_ellie> all of that as root (using sudo of course)
[02:41] <plop_its_ellie> _AxS_, not sure, i havent dealt with that before
[02:41] <Guy1524> so quite text instead of quite splash
[02:41] <theskillwithin> hmm what do you use on ubuntu instead of http://www.sequelpro.com/
[02:42] <cfhowlett> !spl | theskillwithin
[02:42] <Guy1524> plop_its_ellie: ok, Im trying it now, Ill tell u if it works
[02:42] <cfhowlett> !sql
[02:42] <plop_its_ellie> ok
[02:43] <theskillwithin> !sql
[02:43] <theskillwithin> hmm no applications folder, is there a convention to where I would install say phpstorm
[02:44] <cfhowlett> theskillwithin, I believe mysql is the correct package
[02:44] <Guy1524> ok, Im back, what plop_its_ellie told be to do disabled the splash screen, but didn't fix anything
[02:45] <Guy1524> also, my computer won't shut down anymore w/o me forcing the power off
[02:45] <_AxS_> plop_its_ellie: the only easy to do fix for the nvidia-smi soft-lockup that i can guess at would be to disable all fb support so nvidia has the only graphical control.
[02:45] <plop_its_ellie> Guy1524, you did what i told you?
[02:45] <Guy1524> yes
[02:45] <theskillwithin> cfhowlett, oh oops I mean gui but I would have to install mysql first anyways first ha
[02:45] <Guy1524> there was no splash screen, but it still hung
[02:45] <Guy1524> dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19582142/
[02:46] <_AxS_> Guy1524: try newer and/or older nvidia drivers as well
[02:46] <plop_its_ellie> _AxS_, ah ok
[02:46] <Guy1524> _AxS_: the same problem happens with nvidia-367 and I need vulkan support as I am developing a vulkan game engine
[02:47] <_AxS_> Guy1524: you changing kernels too or just nvidia-drivers?
[02:48] <Guy1524> All ive done is changed from noveau to nvidia-361 on a fresh installation and I did the no splashscreen thing
[02:49] <uberdub> omg
[02:50] <uberdub> so apparently because I used my usb drive to install kubuntu its read only
[02:50] <_AxS_> Guy1524: maybe ask in #ubuntu-x , they seem to know more about vulkan
[02:50] <uberdub> I cant reformat the drive
[02:50] <_AxS_> uberdub: 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/[device-for-usb]'  , then it won't be readonly
[02:51] <Guy1524> _AxS_: this doesn't have to do w/ vulkan, I just need to make sure that the driver I am using supports it
[02:51] <uberdub> ?
[02:51] <_AxS_> uberdub: the usb drive has a readonly fs image on it.  but if you write nothing to the device you nuke that readonly fs and can do whatever you want again
[02:51] <_AxS_> s/nothing/zeros/
[02:52] <uberdub> access denied
[02:52] <_AxS_> uberdub: as root, right?
[02:53] <uberdub> wow
[02:53] <uberdub> rm: cannot remove 'Kubuntu 16.04 LTS amd64/ubuntu': Read-only file system
[02:54] <uberdub> with sudo
[02:54] <_AxS_> uberdub: why are you using 'rm' ??
[02:54] <tgm4883> uberdub: why are you trying to rm it?
[02:54] <uberdub> so what is it im supposed to do??????????????
[02:55] <_AxS_> uberdub: run the command i told you
[02:55] <tgm4883> uberdub: follow the directions that were given to you... stop acting like a child...
[02:55] <_AxS_> uberdub: unmount it, then run 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/[usb-device -- probably 'sdb']'
[02:55] <uberdub> I DID
[02:56] <tgm4883> uberdub: the command you just posted says you ran rm
[02:56] <_AxS_> uberdub: you didn't, if you used 'rm'
[02:56] <uberdub> dd: writing to '/dev/[device-for-usb]': No space left on device
[02:56] <uberdub> 8034233+0 records in
[02:56] <_AxS_> thats more useful.  thanks
[02:56] <uberdub> 8034233+0 records in
[02:56] <uberdub> 4113526784 bytes (4.1 GB, 3.8 GiB) copied, 5.17449 s, 795 MB/s
[02:56] <crafty1> or you could just blank the partition table on the usb drive
[02:57] <tgm4883> uberdub: pastebin everything you've done
[02:57] <_AxS_> uberdub: it is now empty.  partition it
[02:57] <crafty1> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1
[02:57] <Guy1524> _AxS_: there is nobody on #ubuntu-x
[02:58] <_AxS_> Guy1524: :/  oh well..  that's just what https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/ubuntu/vulkan  pointed me to, thought it might be helpful
[02:58] <R3al> Can someone point me  to a good starting point for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on a service pro.
[02:58] <uberdub> same error
[02:58] <uberdub> this is what Im talking about
[02:58] <cfhowlett> R3al, this is a server??
[02:58] <crafty1> theres no way he wrote zeroes all over that disk in like 5 seconds
[02:58] <Guy1524> _AxS_: I dont need help with vulkan, I need help with my computer being able to properly shut down and hanging on boot
[02:58] <plop_its_ellie> that command is suppose to write zeros to the drive
[02:58] <plop_its_ellie> wipe it clean
[02:58] <tgm4883> uberdub: pastebin everything you've done
[02:59] <Guy1524> Ill try unplugging my vga monitor and see what happens
[02:59] <uberdub> oh, you want to do a basic fucntion...well...5 other 2 hour long procedures are required to even be able to do said procedure
[02:59] <Guest42811> _AxS_ I installed Gnome ALSA mixer, can't get sound to play from both internal and external, can you help?
[02:59] <tgm4883> uberdub: pastebin everything you've done
[02:59] <uberdub> that is everything
[02:59] <R3al> No Surface Pro is the Microsoft Tablet they made.. i made it better with ubuntu.. just newer and want trying to see if i can get all the bugs worked out
[02:59] <tgm4883> uberdub: no, you need to pastebin all the commands you've run and their output (from the last 10 minutes)
[03:00] <cfhowlett> R3al, ah!  right.  I believe there's a dedicated wiki.  wait 1 ...
[03:00] <uberdub> pastebin what?
[03:01] <tgm4883> uberdub: we want to see the "dd" commands you ran and their output
[03:01] <tgm4883> !pastebin | uberdub
[03:01] <Guest42811> Can anybody help?
[03:02] <Guest42811> I'm trying to get sound to come from both internal and external speakres
[03:02] <uberdub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19583806/
[03:03] <tgm4883> uberdub: ok, I see the issue
[03:03] <uberdub> same thing I already pasted
[03:03] <tgm4883> uberdub: can you pastebin the output of 'lsblk'
[03:04] <uberdub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19583938/
[03:04] <uberdub> whatever I have to do to instal an os that actually works
[03:04] <tgm4883> uberdub: ok, your USB device is /dev/sdb so you need to use that in the dd command you were given
[03:04] <tgm4883> uberdub: you know, you make it difficult to want to help you
[03:04] <uberdub> where?
[03:05] <tgm4883> uberdub: the part that says "/dev/sdX" you were supposed to replace the X with your device letter "b"
[03:05] <tgm4883> uberdub: I'm sorry that wasn't clear earlier
[03:05] <YankDownUnder> Guest42811: How exactly are your external speakers connected to your laptop...?
[03:06] <uberdub> Why do I have to come to come in to irc channels, and beg and plead just for my os to use its basic functions?
[03:06] <Guest42811> YankDownUnder via aux port
[03:06] <Guest42811> Auxilliary cord
[03:06] <plop_its_ellie> uberdub, whats the issue?
[03:06] <YankDownUnder> Guest42811: Headphone jack?
[03:06] <cfhowlett> uberdub, drop the attitude.  you are truly not helping your case.
[03:06] <uberdub> Id rather just use something that works
[03:06] <plop_its_ellie> keep in mind we are just volenteers in here...
[03:06] <Guest42811> Yes YankDownUnder
[03:06] <uberdub> yeah thats the prolem
[03:06] <tgm4883> lets stay civil everyone
[03:07] <_AxS_> uberdub: what's the problem?  when you ran it before it cleaned the stick, why can't you just partition it now?
[03:07] <_AxS_> uberdub: or write your new fs image on top?
[03:07] <YankDownUnder> Guest42811: So, it's the hardware. Not the OS. Once you plug something into the headphone jack, the "external" speakers are cut-off.
[03:07] <plop_its_ellie> oh he/she is trying to wipe the disk?
[03:07] <Guest42811> No way to bypass that YankDownUnder?
[03:08] <Guest42811> What if I connect speakers via USB?
[03:08] <_AxS_> plop_its_ellie: yeah kubuntu made it 'readonly', as its likely it was a livecd image written to the stick
[03:08] <uberdub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19584319/
[03:08] <_AxS_> Guest42811: usb speakers are effectively their own sound card, so yes
[03:08] <uberdub> same error
[03:08] <tgm4883> uberdub: that's not an error
[03:08] <_AxS_> uberdub: that's not an error.
[03:08] <YankDownUnder> Guest42811: I've done some searching...however, yes, the USB would allow for "pass through" - as then you'd have the "external" speakers - via USB - show up as an "extra" set of speakers.
[03:08] <plop_its_ellie> thats not an error
[03:08] <plop_its_ellie> it did its job
[03:08] <_AxS_> uberdub: now, yank out the stick, plug it in again, and its going to be clean
[03:09] <uberdub> the files are still on the disk
[03:09] <plop_its_ellie> yep
[03:09] <uberdub> the drive
[03:09] <plop_its_ellie> take it out and put it back in
[03:09] <plop_its_ellie> there is a tool called gparted which you can use to partition the drive
[03:09] <uberdub> and again its not recognized
[03:09] <plop_its_ellie> uberdub, it has no filesystem on the disk so its not going to show up in the file browser
[03:10] <plop_its_ellie> so you can install gparted via the command line with sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:10] <_AxS_> or just run 'fdisk'
[03:10] <plop_its_ellie> that works too
[03:10] <uberdub> gparted wouldnt even see it
[03:11] <_AxS_> or "dd if=/path/to/windows/boot.img of=/dev/sdb"
[03:11] <uberdub> now how in the world do i install winblows on this thing in linux
[03:11] <_AxS_> uberdub: did you try?
[03:11] <uberdub> I cant even see the drive now
[03:11] <uberdub> let alone transfer files to it
[03:11] <plop_its_ellie> oh we are helping him with windows shiz??????
[03:12] <uberdub> im still in ubuntu
[03:12] <_AxS_> uberdub: you can't transfer files because there's no filesystem to transfer to.  you don't expect to *copy* stuff to the usb stick to make it work ?
[03:12] <cfhowlett> plop_its_ellie, we shouldn't be ...
[03:12] <uberdub> windows has actual support
[03:12]  * plop_its_ellie does not support windows
[03:12] <GuestDude> _AxS_ if I purchase a 3.5mm Aux to USB converter, will I be able to accomplish my goal?
[03:12] <plop_its_ellie> except when im forced to at work
[03:12] <GuestDude> _AxS_ because my speakers themselves only have a 3.5mm male audio jack
[03:12] <_AxS_> GuestDude: dunno, possible yes
[03:13] <uberdub> so now what?
[03:13] <_AxS_> uberdub: get a bootable iso of windows so you can write that to the usb stick.  then boot the usb stick.
[03:13] <uberdub> how?
[03:13] <_AxS_> uberdub: go to that other channel and follow their instructions
[03:13] <uberdub> how in the world to I transfer it to a usb stick that I cant even see???
[03:14] <Guy1524> I found the solution to my problem
[03:14] <Guy1524> I just had to add nomodeset
[03:14] <Guy1524> and now everything works (:
[03:14] <uberdub> im in kubuntu not windows
[03:14] <_AxS_> uberdub: plug it back in, then you can see it again
[03:14] <cfhowlett> Guy1524, yeah that usually does it :)
[03:14] <YankDownUnder> uberdub: You can install "WinUSB" through PPA for linux....http://www.webupd8.org/2016/06/make-bootable-windows-10-usb-install.html
[03:14] <uberdub> no
[03:14] <uberdub> it doesnt show up
[03:14] <uberdub> nothing
[03:14] <_AxS_> uberdub: where doesn';t it show up?
[03:14] <tgm4883> _AxS_: it has no partition table
[03:15] <_AxS_> tgm4883: the device should be there tho
[03:15] <uberdub> wow
[03:15] <uberdub> just wow
[03:15] <tgm4883> _AxS_: has anyone asked him where he's looking?
[03:15] <uberdub> this really shouldnt be so difficult
[03:15] <_AxS_> tgm4883: sort of
[03:16] <tgm4883> _AxS_: I'd bet the device is showing up, but since there is no filesystem it's not showing up in dolphin
[03:16]  * tgm4883 assumes Kubuntu uses dolphin
[03:17] <plop_its_ellie> lol i said that already
[03:17] <_AxS_> tgm4883: yep i'm with you on that too.  but this guy's saying it wont' be in gparted or anywhere else either.
[03:17] <_AxS_> but he's not willing to bother actually trying, so
[03:17] <plop_its_ellie> it will not show up in a file browser in ANY os including windows
[03:17] <plop_its_ellie> it has NO filesystem on it
[03:17] <uberdub> trying?
[03:17] <uberdub> 2 hours
[03:18] <uberdub> 2 friggin hours to do a extremely basic function
[03:18] <tgm4883> uberdub: have you installed WinUSB yet?
[03:18] <plop_its_ellie> uberdub, i think maybe you should just take a break then come back to it when you are feeling more calm
[03:18] <uberdub> and still no where
[03:18] <uberdub> that link is bad
[03:18] <plop_its_ellie> uberdub, its a basic function but you dont know what you are doing
[03:18] <plop_its_ellie> so of course its going to seem hard
[03:18] <YankDownUnder> Oddly enough, I'm on the link right now. It's rather alive.
[03:18] <plop_its_ellie> cuz you DONT know what you are doing
[03:19] <tgm4883> let's stay civil please
[03:19] <plop_its_ellie> and we are trying to help you, I can undesrstand that you are fustrated but you need to chil, we are only trying to help...
[03:19] <tgm4883> uberdub: http://www.webupd8.org/2016/06/make-bootable-windows-10-usb-install.html
[03:19] <YankDownUnder> There are two parts to any technical/computer issue: 1.) the actual technical/computer issue and 2.) the person issue.
[03:19] <tgm4883> try that link
[03:19] <uberdub> lmao
[03:19] <cfhowlett> uberdub, abusing the volunteers like this will result in you getting added to /ignore.  chill.
[03:19] <uberdub> know what im doing
[03:20] <YankDownUnder> Yes. So so obvious.
[03:20] <waxhead> dumb quesiton, but if you change the permissions of a directory, do you have to log out and in again?
[03:20] <uberdub> dude
[03:20] <tgm4883> waxhead: no
[03:20] <uberdub> I shouldnt need a friggin cs degree to reformat a drive
[03:20] <waxhead> tgm4883, thought so...
[03:20] <uberdub> this is supposed to be for endusers
[03:20] <_AxS_> uberdub: to recap.  there is no FS on that usb stick so its ready to be partitioned/formatted or to have an image written to it.  use a tool to do such things.
[03:20] <waxhead> for some reason I'm dumbfounded with permissions
[03:20] <YankDownUnder> ubuntulog: Have fun. Enjoy.
[03:21] <_AxS_> waxhead: what're you trying to do?
[03:21] <waxhead> setup group permissions on a directory and then share that over samba
[03:21] <fpqc> tgm4883, figured it out
[03:21] <tgm4883> fpqc: sweet
[03:21] <waxhead> drwxrwsr-- 13 root mythtv  260 Jul 15 22:55 movies
[03:21] <fpqc> you do ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[03:22] <_AxS_> waxhead: when you say group, do you mean unix group or some other meaning of group?
[03:22] <fpqc> then make and make install
[03:22] <tgm4883> fpqc: yep, that's the --prefix I was talking about.
[03:22] <waxhead> and in the gorup mythtv I have my account and mythtv users in it...
[03:22] <waxhead> _AxS_, unix group
[03:22] <fpqc> how do I make it so when I call sudo, it looks for the one in /usr/local
[03:22] <fpqc> instead of in /
[03:22] <tgm4883> fpqc: an alias
[03:22] <_AxS_> fpqc: you asking to add something to your path?
[03:23] <waxhead> And this is the /etc/group  mythtv:x:1003:pete,mythtv
[03:23] <fpqc> _AxS_, it's in my path, but I want one to take precedence over the default
[03:23] <_AxS_> fpqc: change the order of the elements in your path
[03:23] <fpqc> ?
[03:24] <fpqc> i don't have a path configured in my bashrc or bash profile by default, do I?
[03:24] <fpqc> it's just the default if I didn't touch it, no?
[03:24] <_AxS_> fpqc: the system one is.  echo $PATH to see it
[03:24] <fpqc> so how would I do it for my user?
[03:25] <fpqc> copy it from echo $PATH, rearrange, then add to bashrc export PATH=...
[03:25] <fpqc> I want to do it systemwide though
[03:25] <_AxS_> fpqc: if in ~/.bash_profile you set PATH=  (and i think 'export PATH') with all the same elements but with /usr/local first it will be used first
[03:25] <fpqc> do I need to export path in my bash_profile?
[03:25] <fpqc> also, I use zsh anyhow
[03:26] <Sachin> fpqc
[03:26] <fpqc> hiya Sachin
[03:26] <_AxS_> fpqc: unsure, dont remember.  try .login ?  there's something that's always loaded...
[03:27] <Sachin> hey man i have made a website... and i want to give them to people.... can i do it here?
[03:27] <fpqc> _AxS_, that seems bad because I want my custom-compiled sudo to be used for all users
[03:27] <fpqc> Sachin, idk why would I know?
[03:27] <_AxS_> fpqc: oh, well you can make it global, just edit something in /etc to set it for everyone
[03:27] <uberdub> winusb does not see the thumb drive
[03:27] <tatertots> hello gentlemen and ladies
[03:27] <Sachin> www.pazhanji.org for easy file transfer\
[03:27] <fpqc> _AxS_, can you make a global alias?
[03:28] <_AxS_> fpqc: don't make an alias. adjust the path's order so /usr/local/bin comes before /bin and /usr/bin
[03:28] <Guest47310> can anyone help me understand how to fix the issue with "configured multiple times"
[03:28] <Guest47310> http://dpaste.com/38XMKX6
[03:28] <fpqc> _AxS_ okay, where to edit in /etc?
[03:29] <_AxS_> fpqc: you need an ubuntu user for that part.
[03:29] <uberdub> what did you do to my thum drive?
[03:29] <fpqc> _AxS_, lol I'm also not one
[03:29] <_AxS_> fpqc: but likely this can find it:  find /etc -type f -exec grep '^PATH' {} +
[03:29] <tatertots> so i've been on a quest to rid the long historical list of users that have logged in to the ubuntu 14.04 box http://askubuntu.com/questions/185039/how-do-i-remove-the-last-connected-users-from-the-lightdm-greeter-list
[03:30] <fpqc> /etc/environment
[03:30] <_AxS_> there ya go
[03:30] <tatertots> thread talks about clearing /var/log/wtmp  and /var/log/btmp
[03:30] <uberdub> so I guess this thing is a paperweight?
[03:31] <uberdub> and you wonder why I get frustrated
[03:31] <uberdub> wth
[03:31] <_AxS_> uberdub: ls /dev/sd[a-z] , what does it return?
[03:31] <tatertots> with some type of '> /var/log/wtmp' command
[03:31] <fpqc> oh it looks like /usr/local/bin takes precedence over /bin anyway
[03:31] <fpqc> oh happy day
[03:31] <uberdub>  /dev/sda  /dev/sdX
[03:32] <tatertots> should i just make a empty file and then 'cat emptyfile > /var/log/wtmp' to clear the file?
[03:32] <thechosenginger> can anyone help me understand and explain how to fix " configured multiple times" http://dpaste.com/38XMKX6
[03:33] <_AxS_> uberdub: sdX ?  seriously?
[03:33] <uberdub> ?
[03:33] <tatertots> i guess i could just open them with gedit and delete the content
[03:33] <uberdub> that is the output
[03:33] <cfhowlett> uberdub, how many times have you been told: DO NOT use sdX.  X is a variable.  it should be replaced by a number - number revealed by lsblk command
[03:34] <_AxS_> uberdub: ok try this.  unplug the stick again.  count to 5.  plug it in again.  type 'dmesg' and see what it says just got plugged in
[03:34] <uberdub> what are you talking about?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> uberdub, not going to waste bandwidth repeating.  scroll back.
[03:36] <uberdub> winusb sees it now
[03:36] <uberdub> and now it doesnt again
[03:36] <_AxS_> uberdub: did you unplug it again? :)
[03:36] <uberdub> yes
[03:36] <uberdub> again
[03:36] <uberdub> and again
[03:36] <uberdub> and again
[03:36] <thechosenginger> can i come here from help on ubuntu mate
[03:37] <cfhowlett> thechosenginger, yes.  ask.
[03:37] <tgm4883> thechosenginger: yes
[03:37] <_AxS_> thechosenginger: you're in the right place
[03:37] <tatertots> uberdub are you trying to identify your usb drive/thumb drive?
[03:37] <tatertots> oh nevermind, if getting winusb to see it was what you were trying to accomplish, i'd like to congratulate you.
[03:37] <thechosenginger> while running sudo apt-get update it shows that i have files that are configured twice. how do i remove them or change it
[03:37] <thechosenginger> http://dpaste.com/38XMKX6
[03:38] <uberdub> why is this so simple in every other os?
[03:38] <tatertots> it's actually pretty simple in ubuntu/linux also
[03:38] <uberdub> ok
[03:38] <Sachin> im using ubuntu 16 64bit on my website www.pazhanji.org is it goood?
[03:38] <uberdub> so then how do I do it????
[03:38] <uberdub> why isnt it working?
[03:38] <tatertots> glass half empty looks just like a glass half full
[03:38] <tgm4883> tatertots: he's trying to burn a windows ISO to a USB stick
[03:39] <fpqc> hey, so I'm having trouble recompiling trusty's procps on xenial
[03:39] <_AxS_> does winusb put the iso somewhere?
[03:39] <tgm4883> _AxS_: what do you mean?
[03:39] <uberdub> winusb does not see the drive at all
[03:39] <fpqc> In file included from top.c:60:0:
[03:39] <uberdub> it sees the iso just fine
[03:39] <fpqc> top.h:182:4: error: redeclaration of enumerator ‘P_PID’
[03:39] <fpqc>     P_PID = 0, P_PPD,
[03:39] <spacegoat> Hello.
[03:40] <spacegoat> I am having a problem that packages are held with: 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8001::17)]
[03:40] <_AxS_> tgm4883: i mean he has a usb stick, how about we just gove the command to write the image to the stick with dd ?
[03:40] <cfhowlett> thechosenginger, the error is reportedly in /etc/apt/sourceslist.steam.  my suggestion: purge & reinstall steam
[03:40] <uberdub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19587300/
[03:40] <tgm4883> _AxS_: would that work for a hybrid ISO?
[03:40] <thechosenginger> @cfhowlett how do i go about that
[03:41] <_AxS_> tgm4883: pretty sure yes, in fact i think it only works with a hybrid iso
[03:41] <YankDownUnder> https://www.unixmen.com/winusb-create-bootable-windows-usb-linux/
[03:41] <cfhowlett> thechosenginger, first dpgk -l steam      to get the proper steam package name then sudo apt-get purge steam*
[03:41] <thechosenginger> _AxS_: are you trying to dl ubuntu to a usb?
[03:42] <_AxS_> thechosenginger: i'm one of many trying to help uberdub
[03:43] <thechosenginger> _AxS_: there is a program that once the package is dl'd it will tranfer it to a ubs. give me amunite to find it
[03:44] <tatertots> uberdub you mighty try other usb ports available on your system, if all the usb result in those type of errors you may have other problems going on
[03:44] <thechosenginger> cfhowlett: thank you very much
[03:45] <cfhowlett> thechosenginger, happy2help!
[03:45] <tatertots> 'unable to enumerate USB device' would explain why your software isn't seeing it
[03:45] <uberdub> so...
[03:45] <uberdub> what do I do with this drive now?
[03:45] <uberdub> it worked fine before that dd command
[03:46] <waxhead> well, I'm totally confused with this permissions issue...  :-/
[03:46] <_AxS_> waxhead: what perms are you trying to set on the directory?
[03:46] <uberdub> ?
[03:46] <_AxS_> waxhead: also, have you logged out since your user was added to the group?
[03:46] <uberdub> user?
[03:47] <hiexpo> uberdub, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/restoring-your-usb-key-partition/
[03:47] <thechosenginger> _AxS_: i dont know if this will help you any but the program is called rufus
[03:47] <_AxS_> uberdub: this isn't to you
[03:47] <waxhead> _AxS_, nope... thought you didnt need to?
[03:47] <_AxS_> waxhead: not for changing group permissions or ownership no.  but to change what groups your user is in, yes.
[03:48] <uberdub> hiexpo: im not in windows
[03:48] <waxhead> _AxS_, ok.. that's not the issue then...
[03:48] <uberdub> im trying to get linux off my steam amchine because it runs for crap
[03:48] <hiexpo> uberdub, thats done in linux with a terminal to restore the usb back to it's original state
[03:48] <_AxS_> waxhead: so, i'm back to what perms are you trying to set on the directory?
[03:49] <uberdub> and Im tired of spending hours and days getting games, and apps to do basic functions
[03:49] <hiexpo> uberdub, scroll down
[03:49] <uberdub> ahh fdisk
[03:49] <hiexpo> yes
[03:49] <uberdub> all these commands, and sybtaxes are too damn much to remember for an enduser
[03:50] <waxhead> _AxS_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19588142
[03:50] <uberdub> seriously
[03:50] <hiexpo> that's not hard
[03:50] <uberdub> I am a chemist. not a computer scientist or even technician
[03:50] <tatertots> uberdub do you want me to help you remotely?
[03:50] <uberdub> no I mean in general
[03:50] <waxhead> _AxS_, the group mythtv should be read/write in movies ( so fan art etc) can be put there..
[03:50] <_AxS_> waxhead: right, ok.  So you need execute perms on dirs if you want anybody to be able to change into them.  and 'rws' seems very wrong.
[03:50] <uberdub> ubuntu is supposed to be for endusers
[03:51] <tatertots> i wouldn't mind helping you out remotely
[03:51] <waxhead> _AxS_, that's the sticky bit...
[03:51] <_AxS_> waxhead: chown -r :mythtv /mnt/datastore/movies
[03:51] <_AxS_> waxhead: why do you want ot sticky?
[03:51] <waxhead> _AxS_, just means that the group keeps the perms...
[03:51] <uberdub> im pissed I have to install winblows on this hardware
[03:51] <waxhead> _AxS_, yep
[03:51] <uberdub> half a mind to return it
[03:52] <_AxS_> waxhead: and chmod -r 0775 /mnt/datastore/movies  (you can make it sticky if you want, i doubt you need to)
[03:52] <uberdub> I cant beleive alienware, and valve released this
[03:52] <tatertots> don't be pissed, an OS is just a tool that a person uses to accomplish tasks
[03:52] <waxhead> _AxS_, this is odd...
[03:52] <uberdub> Im basically paying them to beta test their junk
[03:52] <waxhead> so I can change dir to TVShows, but not movies...
[03:52] <waxhead> same setup, just different gorup name
[03:52] <tatertots> Ah you own a steam machine?
[03:52] <uberdub> I got into linux 12 year ago working in it
[03:52] <cfhowlett> uberdub, please rant in someone else's channel.  stay on topic here
[03:52] <uberdub> IT*
[03:53] <theskillwithin> sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdb2 /media/machd                        mount: mount point /media/machd does not exist
[03:53] <uberdub> it was a fu challenge then
[03:53] <_AxS_> waxhead: directories need 'x' permissions otherwise they can't be changed into
[03:53] <uberdub> now it just gets in the way when things dont work otb
[03:53] <uberdub> my time is precious, as is everyones.
[03:53] <waxhead> _AxS_, movies and TVShows have the same perms... :)
[03:53] <waxhead> the difference is the group
[03:54] <uberdub> tatertots yes
[03:54] <spacegoat> 22 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
[03:54] <uberdub> i7
[03:54] <spacegoat> How can update all of them at once?
[03:54] <_AxS_> waxhead: so..  is your user in the mythtv group properly?
[03:54] <tatertots> uberdub you worked in linux 'professionally' 12years ago?...in what capacity?...if fdisk-l is too much to remember...i just have to ask in what capacity did you 'work' in linux.....being able to spell linux isn't 'working' in linux professionally
[03:54] <_AxS_> gpasswd -a [user] mythtv
[03:55] <waxhead> _AxS_, yep, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19588609/
[03:55] <uberdub> fdisk doesnt see the device
[03:56] <tatertots> that's be cause it's not "enumerated"
[03:56] <uberdub> ugh
[03:56] <tatertots> you need to reseat and try other usb ports
[03:56] <uberdub> what does that even mean?
[03:57] <_AxS_> uberdub: it means the usb stick and/or that port is having hardware issues
[03:57] <_AxS_> uberdub: try a different port.  this was mentioned about 10 mins ago
[03:57] <tatertots> this will determine is the 'point of failure' is the usb device or all your usb ports
[03:57] <tatertots> if the device won't 'enumerate' in any of your usb ports the next step is trying a 'known good' device
[03:58] <tatertots> you should be plugging in to other usb ports now
[03:58] <uberdub> yeah
[03:59] <uberdub> it mounted
[03:59] <tatertots> thata boy
[03:59] <tatertots> you say it mounted...which suggests it finally enumerated successfully..now it should appear at the 'software' level
[04:00] <uberdub> its saying wipe with wipefs
[04:01] <tatertots> "it's"?
[04:01] <uberdub> the output
[04:01] <tatertots> are you using fdisk?
[04:02] <tatertots> yes/no?
[04:02] <uberdub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19589239/
[04:02] <uberdub> yes
[04:03] <tatertots> the next step is 'Type d to proceed to delete a partition'
[04:03] <tatertots> I'm following this with you http://www.pendrivelinux.com/restoring-your-usb-key-partition/
[04:04] <tatertots> next step 'Type 1 to select the 1st partition and press enter'
[04:05] <fpqc> tgm4883, I just did a bunch of crap and somehow got it to install lol
[04:05] <uberdub> "no partition is defined yet"
[04:06] <uberdub> ugh
[04:06] <fpqc> instead of building the unpatched one, I built the patched one and used like autoreconfigure and a whole bunch of build tools that like fixed some weird compile error and now it built
[04:06] <fpqc> and ps seems to be working so that's good
[04:09] <uberdub> tatrtots d doesnt work
[04:09] <uberdub> tatertots
[04:10] <tatertots> you could just wipefs as fdisk suggests to rid all signatures then return to fdisk to complete the rest of the steps
[04:10] <uberdub> wipefs just gives me an output
[04:10] <uberdub> does nothing
[04:11] <tatertots> show your wipefs command
[04:11] <uberdub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19590098/
[04:12] <tatertots> you didn't give wipefs any options/arguments
[04:13] <uberdub> i never used wipefs before
[04:13] <tatertots> i'd think you'd want to put the '-a' option/argument with it
[04:13] <tatertots> i've never used it before either uberdub..that's why i read the man page
[04:13] <uberdub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19590098/qqq
[04:13] <_AxS_> uberdub: 'man [command]' tends to help a -lot- to figure out what something does or how to use it.
[04:14] <fpqc> anybody know why fonts-droid is not in the xenial repo?
[04:14] <_AxS_> uberdub: or even '[command] -h'
[04:14] <uberdub> again..ubuntu is not for endusers
[04:14] <_AxS_> uberdub: dude, this is really basic stuff and applies for windows, osx, pretty well anything.
[04:14] <tatertots> sure it is...i'm an end user and i use ubuntu all the time
[04:14] <uberdub> If I wanted to read a man page, or memorize commands just to do basic things id be running slack
[04:15] <uberdub> this is basic
[04:15] <uberdub> which is why it id utterly frightening im still trying to do this.
[04:15] <fpqc> uberdub dawg
[04:15] <fpqc> the best thing to do is to spend all weekend tinkering on a harddrive where you have nothing important
[04:15] <uberdub> and enduser is someone that right clicks, and goes...reformat...done
[04:15] <tatertots> don't be afraid/frightened
[04:16] <fpqc> so you don't have to be afraid
[04:16] <uberdub> im over  it dude
[04:16] <fpqc> of wiping out some stuff you wanted
[04:16] <uberdub> I dont have time for this stuff any more
[04:16] <uberdub> I love linux
[04:16] <uberdub> but man
[04:16] <uberdub> all cause this stupid steam amchine
[04:17] <fpqc> who games on linux lol
[04:17] <tatertots> you bought a actual steam machine?...i built my steam machine
[04:17] <uberdub> I own a small business I dont have this kind of time any more
[04:17] <tatertots> it runs like a champ
[04:17] <uberdub> I like the case
[04:17] <fpqc> I mostly mess around with linux so Ican have the coolest irc client on the block
[04:17] <uberdub> it fits well in my entertainment center
[04:17] <uberdub> dude
[04:18] <fpqc> you know what else fits well in your entertainment system
[04:18] <uberdub> its is just down right horrible for gaming still
[04:18] <fpqc> uberdub not really that bad
[04:18] <fpqc> except for you know, unstable drivers, random updates breaking audio (arch I'm looking at you)
[04:18] <uberdub> dude I will pay for linux that just works
[04:18] <uberdub> I hate windows
[04:18] <fpqc> uberdub idk ubuntu is pretty close
[04:19] <uberdub> its still not there
[04:19] <fpqc> it just works, except for the graphical installer, laptop drivers
[04:19] <uberdub> i wish it was
[04:19] <fpqc> stupid default bloat etc
[04:19] <uberdub> like an n64 emulator
[04:19] <uberdub> in win everything just works
[04:19] <tatertots> an OS is just a tool...kinda like when you need a flathead screw driver and when you need a phillips screw driver
[04:19] <uberdub> in linux, oh god
[04:19] <fpqc> idk why don't you just install ubuntu-minimal and build your system from scratch?
[04:20] <fpqc> that way you can troubleshoot
[04:20] <uberdub> I dont agree with closed surce os
[04:20] <uberdub> philosophically
[04:20] <fpqc> uberdub idk there are enough religious fundamentalists
[04:20] <uberdub> I should be able to know and verify my os does what it says it does
[04:20] <uberdub> im not religious at all
[04:21] <uberdub> im a atheist
[04:21] <fpqc> you're an opensourciest
[04:21] <uberdub> yeah, because I want to know what my os is doing with my hardware
[04:21] <fpqc> yeah, like you know that
[04:21] <tatertots> you could build your own steam machine and put a GTX 980TI in it...better yet two of them in SLI configuration
[04:21] <fpqc> you can't even install steam
[04:21] <uberdub> stfu
[04:21] <uberdub> dude
[04:21] <fpqc> you think you can read the kernel code lol
[04:21] <fpqc> what
[04:21] <uberdub> steam is installed
[04:21] <fpqc> I'm being serious
[04:21] <uberdub> no
[04:22] <uberdub> thats not the point
[04:22] <uberdub> Im not a code monkey
[04:22] <uberdub> im a chemist
[04:22] <fpqc> then how do you know what the OS is doing to your system?
[04:22] <uberdub> because its open
[04:22] <tgm4883> This seems all very off topic
[04:22] <_AxS_> fpqc: dmesg :)
[04:22] <uberdub> seriously
[04:22] <fpqc> w/e
[04:22] <tatertots> very true tgm
[04:22] <fpqc> tgm4883, where the hell did the fonts-droid package go in xenial
[04:23] <tatertots> uberdub let's get back to your usb stick
[04:23] <fpqc> also I got everything working by repeatedly running random build tools
[04:23] <tatertots> or not if you don't have the time
[04:23] <fpqc> every time there was an error
[04:23] <uberdub> im keeping it on my laptop
[04:23] <tgm4883> fpqc: IDK, is that the same as fonts-droid-fallback ?
[04:23] <uberdub> its a think penguin
[04:23] <fpqc> tgm4883, idk
[04:24] <fpqc> tgm4883, we are about to find out =)
[04:24] <fpqc> idk actually
[04:24] <fpqc> it didn't show up
[04:24] <fpqc> but I didn't restart tilda
[04:24] <uberdub> for steam machine im using winblows because I want to just plug in controllers, and fire up emulators and the just work. I dont want to spend days and hours tinkering with getting it to work.
[04:25] <uberdub> its gotten ridiculous
[04:26] <fpqc> nope
[04:26] <fpqc> tgm4883, droid mono didn't show up, idk
[04:26] <fpqc> what's the best terminal font
[04:27] <tatertots> beauty is in the eye of the beholder
[04:27] <uberdub> this new kde is frickin eyecandy tho
[04:28] <fpqc> meh kde
[04:28] <uberdub> gonna miss it on my big flat screen
[04:28] <tgm4883> !ot
[04:28] <uberdub> its pretty
[04:29] <fpqc> tatertots whatever
[04:29] <fpqc> give me your favorite one
[04:29] <funkadactyl> I have a friend who wants to start using linux, I am trying to convince him that the best way for him to learn to use linux is to ditch windows all together and not dual boot or have separate machines. This is mainly because, if he has windows dual booting on his PC he is never going to touch ubuntu because people tend to stick with what they are familiar with. He will be joining us shortly with the handle RemorseCode. I kn
[04:29] <funkadactyl> ow that this is a support channel, but I was hoping we could bend the rules and some of you guys could answer some of the questions about switching over.
[04:30] <uberdub> smh
[04:30] <uberdub> it doesnt work
[04:30] <RemorseCode> Hey guys
[04:31] <tgm4883> funkadactyl: that sounds like support to me, not sure what others think
[04:31] <uberdub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19591624/
[04:31] <uberdub> d gives me that
[04:31] <uberdub> ugh
[04:31] <RemorseCode> I'm a linux noob but not ne wto programming
[04:32] <funkadactyl> Lol, wanna support me in explaining a few things to him so he has a good idea about what he will be getting into?
[04:32] <RemorseCode> Is there anyone here that knows a thing or two about music recording software and if linux supports it
[04:33] <uberdub> winusb doesnt work
[04:33] <tatertots> nothing wrong with dual booting if it fit's the end users 'workflow'
[04:33] <uberdub> "installation failed! exitcode: 256 log: "
[04:33] <funkadactyl> The point I'm making, is that he really has no workflow, he is just interested in learning how to use ubuntu
[04:34] <uberdub> thats what winusb gives me
[04:34] <tatertots> uberdub i'd hate to assume you completed wipefs then went back to fdisk to complete the tasks there and then went on to try winusb?
[04:34] <uberdub> yes
[04:34] <tatertots> i'm going to go out on a limb and say you took some shortcuts
[04:35] <uberdub> ?
[04:35] <uberdub> where?
[04:35] <theyesman> RemorseCode: there's plenty. in the repos. just search music and read the descriptions
[04:35] <uberdub> I ran wipefs
[04:35] <uberdub> then fdisk
[04:35] <uberdub> fdisk gave me the error
[04:36]  * ptl compiled opentoonz on ubuntu \o/
[04:36] <uberdub> winusb sees the drive now, but says installation failed when I click install
[04:37] <funkadactyl> I told him that he is more concerned about media formats, I told him that question is probably better suited for ardrour support to see if they can take file formats form other programs
[04:37] <uberdub> "d" command gives no partition errpr
[04:37] <tgm4883> RemorseCode: funkadactyl probably worth checking this out
[04:37] <tgm4883> !studio
[04:37] <tatertots> are the signatures gone?
[04:37] <Bashing-om> RemorseCode: ubuntu studio : http://paste.ubuntu.com/19583938/ <-which is explicitly geared to general multimedia production.
[04:38] <uberdub> signatures?
[04:38] <tatertots> yes signatures
[04:38] <uberdub> uh
[04:38] <uberdub> i think
[04:38] <tatertots> i'll remind you when you first ran fdisk and saw '/dev/sdb: device contains a valid 'iso9660' signature; it is strongly recommended to wipe the device with wipefs(8) if this is unexpected, in order to avoid possible collisions'
[04:38] <RemorseCode> I have alot of important information in onenote on my pc.  If I switch to lenix will it be able to read the file?
[04:39] <uberdub> it doesnt say kubuntu in the filename now
[04:39] <Bashing-om> RemorseCode: Ooppss : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Studio .
[04:39] <uberdub> err dir
[04:39] <uberdub> that error is gone now
[04:39] <funkadactyl> It's Linux RemorseCode :P
[04:39] <uberdub> i ran fdisk /dev/sdb
[04:40] <RemorseCode> ya I know Funk or should I say grammar police
[04:40] <uberdub> entered "d"
[04:40] <uberdub> and got the error
[04:40] <tatertots> Remorsecode what verson of MS Office/one note do you use?
[04:40] <funkadactyl> It's cool, He's sitting right next to me, I'm just busting his balls
[04:40] <fpqc> meh,I settled for "monospace"
[04:40] <tatertots> i ask because Office is now cloud/web based with Office 365 and all you need is firefox/chrome ect
[04:41] <fpqc> an old one and a good one
[04:41] <tatertots> and you'd have your actual same MS office stuff available in your web browser.
[04:41] <RemorseCode> onenote in office 2007
[04:41] <uberdub> ?
[04:42] <tatertots> I use MS office 2016 via Office 365 on linux all the time
[04:42] <tatertots> since it's cloud/web based i keep all my onenote stuff with me no matter the device or platform i happen to be using
[04:42] <tatertots> isn't technology grand :)
[04:42] <uberdub> im screwed, huh?
[04:43] <tatertots> uberdub were the signatures gone?
[04:43] <tatertots> yes/no
[04:43] <uberdub> i assume so
[04:43] <tatertots> assume.....stop with the profanity
[04:44] <tatertots> assume is a dirty word
[04:44] <tatertots> show your fdisk
[04:44] <funkadactyl> I recommended office 2016 home and small business if he has to 'Own' his license
[04:44] <uberdub> omg
[04:45] <uberdub> which fdisk output?
[04:45] <tatertots> the same fdisk you pastbin before wifefs
[04:45] <tatertots> i want to see it 'post' or after wipefs
[04:46] <uberdub> dobronsted lowry acids receive, or donate protons?
[04:46] <uberdub> wipefs isnt a problem
[04:47] <uberdub> that went fine
[04:47] <tatertots> stop thinking uberdub and follow instructions verbatim
[04:47] <uberdub> I did
[04:47] <tatertots> lets see it
[04:47] <uberdub> cp ic g;ci bdcm
[04:47] <uberdub> I:Uxfhcvkja
[04:48] <funkadactyl> Uberdub is losing it
[04:49] <tatertots> uberdub i offered to help you remotely...
[04:49] <uberdub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19593120/
[04:49] <tatertots> thanks uberdub
[04:50] <uberdub> hours and hours to reformat a thumb drive
[04:50] <tatertots> it says 'No partition is defined yet!'.....you might want to do something about that.....like define one, write the changes.
[04:50] <uberdub> ??????????????????????????/
[04:50] <uberdub> I dont speak computer scientist
[04:50] <uberdub> im sorry
[04:51] <uberdub> i am a enduser
[04:51] <uberdub> truly sorry
[04:51] <uberdub> write the changes???
[04:51] <uberdub> how do I do that?
[04:52] <uberdub> its like each step requires 10 other steps
[04:52] <uberdub> round and round in circles
[04:52] <uberdub> all for something I should be able to right click select and be done
[04:52] <tatertots> press 'm' to see the list of commands...you'll the the letter to press to (C)reate a partition
[04:53] <tatertots> you'll see the letter to press
[04:53] <tatertots> my typing today is horrible
[04:53] <tatertots> i should probably eat something
[04:53] <uberdub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19593406/
[04:54] <tatertots> uberdub this one looks good 'o   create a new empty DOS partition table'
[04:55] <uberdub> says created, but d still gives the same error
[04:56] <tatertots> w   write table to disk and exit
[04:56] <uberdub> ok
[04:56] <uberdub> processed clean
[04:56] <tatertots> thata boy
[04:57] <uberdub> see this used to be fun.
[04:57] <tatertots> you're not having fun?
[04:57] <uberdub> I just dont have the time any more
[04:57] <uberdub> im not
[04:57] <uberdub> it sucks
[04:58] <uberdub> Is it really too much to ask for an os that doesnt spy on you, and is truly for endusers?
[04:58] <uberdub> I would pay for a properly polished unix or linux os
[04:59] <uberdub> freedom not free beer!!
[04:59] <tatertots> if you run fdisk again does "d' still give you the same error as before?
[04:59] <uberdub> yes
[05:00] <tatertots> add a new partition
[05:00] <tatertots> make it fat32 partition
[05:01] <tatertots> (n)ew partition
[05:03] <tatertots> uberdub did you create your new fat32 partition?
[05:03] <tatertots> w   write table to disk and exit
[05:05] <domoArigat0> hi
[05:05] <uberdub> doing it now
[05:06] <uberdub> extended or primary?
[05:07] <tatertots> primary
[05:07] <uberdub> omg
[05:07] <uberdub> finally!!
[05:07] <tatertots> yay!
[05:07] <tatertots> thata boy ..you did it
[05:07] <tatertots> see that wasn't so hard
[05:08] <uberdub> yes, yes it was
[05:08] <tatertots> and you've gained some experience and knowledge in the process
[05:08] <uberdub> at least I dont have to chase dependenc ies in ubuntu
[05:09] <tatertots> if you had to do this again...you'd breeze right through it
[05:09] <tatertots> admit it ...you had a little fun too
[05:10] <tatertots> and you got your usb drive back :)
[05:10] <uberdub> no I wouldnt
[05:10] <uberdub> Id forget all the meticulous commands
[05:10] <uberdub> this isnt routine for me
[05:10] <uberdub> im just an enduser
[05:11] <tatertots> we're all end users
[05:13] <johnny> hola
[05:13] <johnny> hello
[05:13] <tatertots> hello johnny
[05:13] <uberdub> I will be keeping my laptop linux
[05:14] <uberdub> but my steam amchine is going windows
[05:14] <uberdub> gaming in linux is still not there yet
[05:14] <Guest27701> I'm new and this chat
[05:14] <uberdub> IM tired of missing out on AAA titles any way
[05:14] <tatertots> here's.........johnny
[05:17] <tatertots> guest what ubuntu issue are you having today?
[05:17] <Guest27701> Someone here speaks Spanish
[05:17] <tgm4883> !es | Guest27701
[05:18] <tatertots> i don't speak spanish, however i think there is a spanish ubuntu chat if you want to speak in your 1st language
[05:18] <tatertots> i don't know that for sure i just see that get posted sometimes
[05:26] <domoArigat0> hi friends, I only have 8 gigs on this old pos netbook. I cannot upgrade my dist because I don't have enough space. Is there a way to delete unused programs?
[05:28] <xangua> domoArigat0: you could upgrade from ISO if you don't have disk space
[05:28] <xangua> ! Alternate
[05:28] <xangua> Mmmm :-\
[05:28] <xangua> Or maybe no
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> domoArigat0: you can try bleachbit to cleanup some space
[05:30] <lacy20> hi
[05:30] <lacy20> anyone
[05:30] <lacy20> hi
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> lacy20: do you have a question?
[05:30] <tatertots> hello lacy
[05:33] <josh-miller> does anyone know how to install WMIC on Ubuntu 16
[05:35] <xangua> ! Find | wmic
[05:37] <josh-miller> WMIC was an OpenVas thing you compiled but now it won't build on ubuntu 16
[05:37] <josh-miller> and the internet is pretty sparse for info
[05:39] <josh-miller> https://www.aldeid.com/wiki/Wmic-linux
[05:55] <lickalott> anyone have any idea why 3 other systems (all different OS's) would be able to mount an NFS share except my ubuntu laptop?  I just had to rebuild the server and re-share out the folders.  Is there some caching that happens with NFS on the client side??
[05:55] <rasca> Hi everyone, I screwed up while trying to dual boot on my laptop. After installing first windows and then ubuntu I was always booting to windows. I "efibootmgr -o" to my grub but it's somehow broken and now I cannot even boot via a USB (neither ubuntu nor windows). What can I do?
[05:56] <Pratama-ID> hello
[05:57] <lickalott> hello
[06:09] <janelleb> hi all, I'm on a legacy server running Ubuntu 11.10, is there a way for me to install the latest supervisord?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !eol | janelleb
[06:42] <g_> hello
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> g_: what can we do for you?
[06:43] <g_> i want to learn some skills about some type of hacking
[06:45] <quizzy85> is there a Kali channel? Ubuntu isnt what you want for hacking g_
[06:46] <Tin_man> g_,  mean like coughing up fur balls?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> !kali
[06:46] <g_> okey thanks bay :)
[06:46] <quizzy85> ohh dear
[06:48] <wdna> Hey I have Dell Latitude e7470 laptop. It has built in G3 modem device. I installed modem-manager (GUI) however it was not able to find any device. It seems to me the device driver is not loaded as I couldn't find it on system. Anyone have suggestion how can I activate it?
[06:49] <wdna> I guess I need the correct driver, but I'm not sure what driver or what is the exact device name / id ...
[06:49] <Tin_man> should be able to get the drivers from the Dell web site. wdna.
[06:50] <Tin_man> http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Products/?app=drivers
[06:52] <wdna> Tin_man: I ofcourse checked, and it does not have Linux drivers ..
[06:53] <aoeyaoeu> MPU, google ruby
[06:53] <aoeyaoeu> mpu, google ruby
[06:53] <Tin_man> well if it's a dell you could almost bet that this link might help..
[06:53] <Tin_man> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[06:55] <aoeyaoeu> mpu help
[06:55] <aoeyaoeu> mpu google ruby
[06:56] <ducasse> aoeyaoeu: do you have a question?
[06:58] <wdna> Tin_man: are you guessing? This is not the same type of device, and the suggested solution is very bad one either way. but ... what can you expect from Ubuntu users...
[06:58] <Tin_man> yes i am
[06:58] <Tin_man> i'm just going by my dell laptop that I had, but you can look and google for your self
[06:59] <Tin_man> or are your typing fingers just work bashing people trying to help you?
[07:05] <singam> good people deserves good service http://pazhanji.org is a good file transfer service  made for IRC
[07:06] <singam> good people deserves good service http://pazhanji.org is a good file transfer service  made for IRC (#ubuntu #blender)
[07:06] <al_nz1> who should be the owner of a home directory? the user or root?
[07:06] <singam> user
[07:06] <sankale> user
[07:07] <al_nz1> singam: right - cause I setup my system with SSD, and DATA on a diff disk. I followed the guide, but a ls -l on my home dir shows root:root
[07:07] <al_nz1> so chown -R /home/usernamehere
[07:07] <singam> thats ok .... u can change it
[07:07] <al_nz1> ?
[07:07] <singam> ya
[07:07] <singam> good people deserves good service http://pazhanji.org is a good file transfer service  made for IRC (#ubuntu #blender)
[07:08] <al_nz1> or more precisely sudo chown user:user /home/user
[07:08] <singam> dood it doesnt matter... being root is good
[07:08] <singam> good people deserves good service http://pazhanji.org is a good file transfer service  made for IRC (#ubuntu #blender)
[07:08] <singam> good bye all
[07:10] <al_nz1> well it must matter because pulseaudio wont start
[07:12] <sankale> check it with pulseaudio --check
[07:55] <Simon> Hey, yesterday i update Xubuntu on my laptotp. After system restart i noticed that icons names on desktop are aligne to left
[07:55] <Simon> Someone have that same problem?
[07:56] <jatt> I use xubuntu and haven't noticed that thing
[08:23] <stevie> help
[08:30] <the_waiter> Hello
[08:30] <nomic> hello
[08:30] <\9> hello
[08:31] <the_waiter> Can I ask something related to compiling?
[08:32] <the_waiter> I have AM_GNU_GETTEXT_VERSION([0.14]) in configure.ac
[08:32] <the_waiter> make goes OK
[08:32] <the_waiter> but sudo make install cries this:
[08:32] <the_waiter> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/stefan/Clipboard_pokus2/po'
[08:32] <the_waiter> /bin/sh @MKINSTALLDIRS@ /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/clipboard
[08:32] <the_waiter> /bin/sh: 0: Can't open @MKINSTALLDIRS@
[08:34] <the_waiter> if I change AM_GNU_GETTEXT_VERSION to 0.18 everything goes well but I have some permission denied warnings during autoge.sh run
[08:41] <jatt> !pastebin
[08:49] <WhiteNight> !imgur
[08:52] <Nishikino-Maki> where's the "linux-headers-3.4.39"?!
[08:53] <Xin> hai all
[08:53] <Xin> I am looking for a way to send/receive time sensitive audio and video across multiple systems
[08:54] <Xin> eg, use a buffer, sync clocks between all hosts, stream the buffer to all hosts and have them play it correctly in sync
[08:54] <Xin> anyone know how I can do such a thing?
[08:54] <cfhowlett> Xin, sounds like stream casting ...
[08:55] <Xin> yeah but all the players have to be in sync
[08:55] <Xin> like, exactly
[08:55] <Xin> which should be as simple as using the same sample rate, and saying 'all of you start playing at this microsecond'
[08:55] <Xin> once their clocks are sync'd that is
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Xin, quite a bit over my head, but I cant point you in some possible directions.  see "internet dj console" app
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Xin, also see "plex media server" in the software center
[08:58] <Xin> Ive used plex before but not sure how to make it time sensitive or whatever
[08:58] <ducasse> Nishikino-Maki: which ubuntu version are you running?
[08:58] <Xin> ill take a look at those though
[08:58] <Xin> thanks
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Xin, happy2help!
[09:00] <habits> Hi, guys! Could you please tell me which NVIDIA driver version I should use for my NVIDIA 920M graphic card.
[09:00] <habits> It seems that the latest one is not compatiable with kernel 4.4.0. Should I use an older driver version?
[09:00] <habits> FYI, I am running Ubuntu Gnome 16.04
[09:01] <Nishikino-Maki> ubuntu wily(15.10) armhf
[09:02] <cfhowlett> habits, see the nvidia page  http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[09:02] <ducasse> Nishikino-Maki: that kernel is not available for wily, it is very old.
[09:03] <habits> cfhowlett: This is where I downloaded the latest drivers from and once I installed them I was not able to log into GUI
[09:03] <Nishikino-Maki> ...ok i think my arm device is cannot use the 8192cu wireless card
[09:04] <ducasse> Nishikino-Maki: probably not, but if you want support for arm try #ubuntu-arm.
[09:06] <cfhowlett> habits, ah, well.  2 suggestions then.  first, fully upgrade your ubuntu.  should that not fix things consider dropping to a previous version of the nvidia driver
[09:08] <abhvl> hi
[09:08] <habits> cfhowlett: thanks for the hint. That's what I was planning to do. The thing is that I don't know where can I find older version of NVIDIA drivers
[09:08] <abhvl> i have "angular" in my /home/user i created its symbolic in /var/www/angular/ to /home/user/angular/* apache says you dont have permission to access this
[09:08] <cfhowlett> habits, should be on nvidia's site ...
[09:10] <habits> cfhowlett: yup, I think I managed to find archived drivers :) Thanks a lot
[09:10] <cfhowlett> habits, happy2help!
[09:13] <systemx_> Hello.. I recently installed Xubuntu 16.04. During the installation process, I manually setup the partition scheme, and selected the root partition to be "Physical Encrypted Device".. Everything is working perfectly, however, I have noticed in File Manager an entry under the "Devices" category labelled "Disk", however, it is "dimmed", or unhighlighted (not as dark as the other devices).. Is this normal? Here is a copy of my fstab configuration:
[09:13] <systemx_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19607598/
[09:14] <systemx_> This 'df -ha | grep sdb2' might provide extra useful information: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19608151/
[09:14] <systemx_> Due to the same exact size.. this leads me to believe you are correct.. I'm just worried and wanted to verify
[09:15] <systemx_> Thanks for all the help in advance.. I really do appreciate it
[09:17] <abhvl> !public_html
[09:18] <ducasse> systemx_: pastebin the output of 'lsblk -f /dev/sdb'
[09:21] <systemx_> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19608808/
[09:22] <systemx_> It looks like that answers my question.. if I'm interpreting it correctly..
[09:22] <systemx_> verification from someone far smarter than I would be very nice though
[09:23] <PrincessBob> you are smart... give yourself credit :)
[09:24] <ducasse> systemx_: from that it looks like sdb2_crypt is mounted twice...
[09:26] <systemx_> Thank you very much PrincessBob :)
[09:27] <systemx_> ducasse: Hmm..
[09:28] <ducasse> systemx_: why do you have two entries for it in fstab?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> ducasse, 2 separate parts.  the encrypted is the "ghost" of the non-encrypted
[09:32] <systemx_> honestly, I am not sure.. I did not either manually. I was considering commenting one out, but thought I would ask someone with more experience than myself
[09:32] <systemx_> did not add*
[09:33] <ducasse> cfhowlett: wouldn't lsblk show that?
[09:34] <cfhowlett> ducasse, it did in one of his pastes.
[09:34] <cfhowlett> systemx_, what program did you encrypt with??
[09:35] <systemx_> This looks to support your conclusion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19609595/
[09:36] <cfhowlett> systemx_, if I recall, ecrypt creates an encrypted "ghost" partition that is not accessible without the assigned password
[09:36] <systemx_> I used the Xubuntu installer. (As per the topic, as for asking for help in distro specific channel, I just want to say I asked for assistance in the xubuntu channel before joining here, and was referred here)
[09:37] <cfhowlett> systemx_, sounds like ecryptfs then
[09:37] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/ecryptfs.html
[09:37] <ducasse> cfhowlett: lsblk shows the encrypted container as sdb2, and the encrypted fs as sdb2_crypt.
[09:38] <cfhowlett> ducasse, yep.  normal behavior as I understand it.
[09:38] <ducasse> cfhowlett: yes, but the mapper device appears twice in fstab
[09:38] <ducasse> cfhowlett: that's not normal
[09:42] <ducasse> this doesn't look like ecryptfs as there is ext4 on top of it. you layer an fs on top of luks, ecryptfs transparently encrypts a directory through fuse.
[09:49] <systemx_> ecryptfs-verify results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19610500/
[09:49] <alxpa> Hey. I'm having trouble installing a solarized theme to vim.
[09:49] <alxpa> I can't find my .vim folder
[09:50] <alxpa> On an Ubuntu server
[09:53] <ducasse> systemx_: yes, but that is for your home dir (and why layer ecryptfs on top of luks?)
[09:54] <systemx_> ducasse: it was unintentional.. I'm just looking for a way to recover.
[09:54] <cfhowlett> systemx_, perhaps the sanest option: reinstall
[09:55] <ducasse> cfhowlett: +1
[09:55] <alxpa> Can I run the command mkdir -p ~/.vim/autoload ~/.vim/bundle && \
[09:55] <alxpa> In root
[09:55] <alxpa> Or do I need to do it somewhere else
[09:55] <cfhowlett> !root | alxpa
[09:55] <ducasse> systemx_: and don't check 'encrypt home' if you are installing to an encrypted disk. use one of them.
[09:56] <alxpa> cfhowlett: I am ssh'd as root
[09:56] <systemx_> oh wow, THAT must of been what caused it..
[09:56] <systemx_> I did select both..
[09:56] <cfhowlett> alxpa, ahhh.  please ignore my earlier input
[09:56] <ducasse> systemx_: _something_ is very wrong there.
[09:56] <alxpa> cfhowlett: do u know whether it's okay to run that command there?
[09:57] <alxpa> I don't have a .vim directory as far as I can tell
[09:57] <alxpa> But surely I have one if I can run vim
[09:57] <cfhowlett> alxpa, if you have never used vim, you will not have a .vim folder.
[09:57] <alxpa> I've run it before cfhowlett
[09:57] <alxpa> But where should the folder be created?
[09:58] <ducasse> alxpa: in your home dir
[09:58] <alxpa> So that's the one when I type cd .. from root dir? ducasse
[09:58] <cfhowlett> alxpa, if not easily visible in your /home, it will be a couple of layers deep in perhaps .config.  look around
[09:59] <systemx_> If I choose "Physical Encrypted Device" for the / partition, that covers the entire system, but if in the future, I want to utilize ecryptfs to encrypt individual user directories, I just do so manually once installed, correct? Rather than letting the installer handle it
[10:00] <ducasse> alxpa: just type 'cd' and hit enter, and you will be in your homedir
[10:01] <ducasse> systemx_: you typically wouldn't need to encrypt directories on an already encrypted disk, but you can use ecryptfs to encrypt on other drives.
[10:01] <alxpa> ducasse: that's root
[10:01] <systemx_> Should I avoid selecting using physical device encryption, and only select to encrypt home directory, or will that not cover the entire system
[10:01] <alxpa> Because I'm ssh'd
[10:01] <ducasse> alxpa: isn't it root you are creating .vim for?
[10:02] <systemx_> say, I wanted to allow individual users to each have encrypted ~ with different passwords, would doing such be useful though?
[10:03] <ducasse> systemx_: yes, but in that case i wouldn't encrypt the physical disk /home is on.
[10:04] <ducasse> alxpa: ssh in as the user you want to create .vim for, 'mkdir ~/.vim', done.
[10:05] <alxpa> Ok, ducasse: I'm thinking of making a different user so it's safer
[10:05] <alxpa> Is that a good idea
[10:06] <alxpa> Instead of going in as root
[10:06] <alxpa> Or is that just unnecessary
[10:07] <ducasse> alxpa: if you want to configure root's vim you need to do it as root. if you want to configure vim for a normal user, do it as that user.
[10:08] <alxpa> Ducasse where is vimrc?
[10:08] <jeus> hi
[10:08] <alxpa> Or, where should it be?
[10:09] <ducasse> alxpa: in $HOME.
[10:12] <alxpa> Ducasse for root user?
[10:14] <ducasse> alxpa: read what i've said again, i've explained this already.
[10:23] <alxpa> Ducasse, ah yeah. Thanks I've done it now
[10:24] <alxpa> U can't vim a file without an extension?
[10:25] <ren0v0> hi, i'm trying to add something to rc.local for redis, but redis is starting before rc.local commands are executed, what is the correct way to handle that?
[10:26] <ducasse> ren0v0: which ubuntu version?
[10:26] <ren0v0> 16.04
[10:26] <ducasse> ren0v0: write a systemd service unit
[10:27] <ren0v0> for redis?
[10:27] <ducasse> ren0v0: no, for the task you need to run, and specify that it should run before redis is started.
[10:28] <ren0v0> ducasse, i just want to  echo 'never' > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
[10:29] <ikonia> ren0v0: don't do that
[10:29] <ikonia> put it in the sysctl and set it properly
[10:30] <ren0v0> ikonia, i added some things to sysctl.conf but for some reason redis says to apply this differently...
[10:30] <ren0v0> So i would do  mm.transparent_hugepage=0  ?
[10:31] <ikonia> ren0v0: you'd have to look up the settings, I don't have settings like that in my memory
[10:31] <ikonia> but there are settings to disable hugepages
[10:31] <ren0v0> its weird if its that easy, redis/mongo all have some really fancy ways to do it  https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/tutorial/transparent-huge-pages/
[10:32] <ikonia> ignore them
[10:32] <ikonia> they are applications
[10:32] <ikonia> look how to manage your OS
[10:34] <jost__> is ports.ubuntu.com down?
[10:35] <ducasse> alxpa: you can edit any text file you want, they don't need an extension
[10:35] <alxpa> I typed vim filename
[10:35] <alxpa> Oops. Never mind
[10:35] <alxpa> I had cd'd
[10:37] <ren0v0> ikonia, i'm not sure if you're right, look at the answer here  http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/99154/disable-transparent-hugepages   it seems its not an option.
[10:37] <ikonia> pretty sure I've disabled hugepages as a kernel option many times
[10:38] <ikonia> ren0v0: for example http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/hugeadm.8.html
[10:39] <ren0v0> if you read the answer there its that "transparent_hugepages" isn't an option, but there is nr_hugepage for example
[10:41] <ikonia> ren0v0: have a read of this, yes it's redhat, but it explains the setup https://access.redhat.com/solutions/422283
[10:43] <ren0v0> ikonia, erm write block ?
[10:43] <ikonia> looks like "vm.nr_hugepages =0" "vm.nr_hugepages_mempolicy=0" "vm.hugepages_treat_as_moveable=0" and "vm.nr_overcommit_hugepages=0" are what's needed
[10:43] <buslique> hey guys
[10:43] <ren0v0> let me give it a try
[10:43] <ikonia> ren0v0: sadly I don't have a big to hand with this disabled on, but I'm almost certain I've done this through sys settings
[10:44] <buslique> have this message in /var/log/syslog every 10 mins
[10:44] <ren0v0> ikonia, i just feel that if it was so simple everyone else would be doing it and there wouldn't be 100s of stack posts like the one above
[10:44] <buslique> Jul 16 13:36:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[20057]: u6G6G33K010474: to=<buslique@cyl1zard>, delay=04:19:58, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=2370000, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Operating system error
[10:44] <buslique> Jul 16 13:36:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[20060]: u6G4aH3J018181: Warning: program /usr/sbin/sensible-mda unsafe: No such file or directory
[10:44] <buslique> what cause this problem?
[10:44] <ikonia> ren0v0: not many people need to disable it, it's not really an everyday option
[10:45] <buslique> i know i can install sensible-*, but can it be spam from my pc?
[10:45] <ikonia> buslique: you have an automated job calling an application that doesn't exist
[10:45] <ren0v0> look here again >  http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/99154/disable-transparent-hugepages    The answer shows that its not there, those options you point out aren't "transparent_hugepage".   Yes its not an everyday option, but there are many redis/mongodb users
[10:45] <buslique> ikonia, wait, can show you crontab
[10:46] <buslique> ikonia, no, default crontab settings, nothing special
[10:46] <ikonia> ren0v0: ok - so that page says do it as a boot argument
[10:46] <ikonia> buslique: I don't want to see crontab
[10:46] <z0ran> how safe is to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[10:46] <ikonia> z0ran: wait until 16.04.1
[10:47] <buslique> ikonia, ok, how can i see autojob of this app?
[10:47] <jatt> z0ran: very safe
[10:47] <z0ran> thanks ikonia
[10:47] <ren0v0> ikonia, yea, nasty
[10:47] <ikonia> jatt: no it's not, as there is no official upgrade method until 16.04.1
[10:47] <ikonia> ren0v0: I don't see that as a nasty solution, better than an init script echoing things into sys
[10:47] <ren0v0> ikonia, i'm trying to put it all into a deploy script, so its a bit tricky
[10:50] <buslique> ikonia, any advice to disable /usr/sbin/sensible-mda job?
[10:51] <ikonia> buslique: you need to find whats calling it
[10:51] <buslique> ikonia, spend an hour to find, but no results
[10:52] <ikonia> buslique: how have you tried to find it
[10:54] <buslique> ikonia, used google to find where i can find it)
[10:54] <buslique> ikonia, but i dont know even WHERE i can find it
[10:54] <ikonia> where you can find what ?
[10:55] <buslique> jobs or processes that cause /usr/sbin/sensible-mda error in logs
[10:55] <ikonia> google isn't going to tell you that
[10:55] <ikonia> you have to find it on your system
[10:56] <ikonia> look at how frequently it runs - thats a good starting bit of info
[10:56] <buslique> every 10 minutes
[10:56] <ikonia> on the dot or roughly
[10:57] <buslique> on the dot
[10:57] <ikonia> is it always the same times, or just minutes apart
[10:57] <buslique> like
[10:57] <buslique> on the dot or roughly
[10:57] <buslique> Jul 16 13:36:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[20058]: u6G8k33K013778: Warning: program /usr/sbin/sensible-mda unsafe: No such file or directory
[10:57] <buslique> Jul 16 13:36:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[20058]: u6G8k33K013778: SYSERR(root): Cannot exec /usr/sbin/sensible-mda: No such file or directory
[10:57] <buslique> Jul 16 13:36:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[20057]: u6G8k33K013778: to=<root@cyl1zard>, delay=01:49:58, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=1020000, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Operating system error
[10:57] <buslique> Jul 16 13:36:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[20059]: u6G6G33K010474: Warning: program /usr/sbin/sensible-mda unsafe: No such file or directory
[10:57] <ikonia> please don't flood the channel buslique
[10:58] <buslique> Jul 16 13:46:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[29149]: u6G4aH3J018181: Warning: program /usr/sbin/sensible-mda unsafe: No such file or directory
[10:58] <ikonia> buslique: is the time always 10 minutes apart or is it a set time of ten minutes, eg: is it always some time +10 minutes, or is it always a set time eg: on the hour
[10:58] <buslique> Jul 16 13:46:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[29149]: u6G4aH3J018181: SYSERR(root): Cannot exec /usr/sbin/sensible-mda: No such file or directory
[10:58] <buslique> Jul 16 13:46:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[29146]: u6G4aH3J018181: to=<root@cyl1zard>, ctladdr=<root@cyl1zard> (0/0), delay=06:09:46, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=3361599, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Operating system error
[10:59] <ikonia> buslique: stop
[10:59] <buslique> Jul 16 13:46:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[29150]: u6G2C9Ne020744: Warning: program /usr/sbin/sensible-mda unsafe: No such file or directory
[10:59] <buslique> Jul 16 13:46:03 cyl1zard sm-mta[29150]: u6G2C9Ne020744: SYSERR(root): Cannot exec /usr/sbin/sensible-mda: No such file or directory
[10:59] <ikonia> buslique: have you finished flooding the channel ?
[11:00] <ducasse> !paste | buslique use a pastebin!
[11:00] <buslique> ikonia, will use pastebin next time, just pasted a log from 2nd buffer, im sorry)
[11:02] <buslique> ikonia, the time always 10 minutes apart
[11:02] <ikonia> so it's more likley to be a daemon thats running than a job
[11:03] <ikonia> you can confirm this looking in /var/spool/cron and in /etc/cron.$whatever
[11:03] <buslique> ill will try, thanks
[11:03] <ikonia> so if it's a daemon, you may find reference to sensible-mda in /etc which will tell you which daemons doing it
[11:10] <buslique> "@reboot sleep 10m && timeshift --backup" in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root
[11:10] <buslique> hmm, but timeshift never displayed this messages in logs before
[11:11] <buslique> and i have "*/20 * * * * smmsp   test -x /etc/init.d/sendmail" in /etc/cron.d/sendmail
[11:18] <buslique> and i found "QUEUE_INTERVAL="10m";" sting in  /etc/mail/sendmail.conf
[11:22] <Firefox___> list
[11:22]  * Firefox___ 
[11:22] <junaidali> can we send "enter" to a process?
[11:24] <jatt> nope
[11:24] <jatt> you can send signals to it tho
[11:24] <ikonia> buslique: sendmail is nothing to do with that
[11:24] <ikonia> although sendmail....ubuntu does not have sendmail by deault
[11:24] <ikonia> buslique: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[11:24] <buslique> ikonia, 16.04
[11:25] <ikonia> buslique: and you have sendmail.....
[11:25] <ikonia> that is not the default MTA on ubuntu
[11:25] <buslique> ikonia, so maybe i need to delete sendmail?)
[11:25] <ikonia> buslique: errr no
[11:28] <buslique> ikonia, so what can I do?)
[11:29] <ikonia> look for something in /etc that calls the application in question
[11:29] <ikonia> buslique: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[11:29] <ikonia> buslique: sm-mta is actually a reference to sendmail it would seem
[11:29] <buslique> "Linux cyl1zard 4.6.0-040600-generic #201605151930 SMP Sun May 15 23:32:59 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[11:30] <ikonia> buslique: thats not an ubuntu kernel
[11:30] <junaidali>  thanks jatt: i thought there might be any signal
[11:30] <ikonia> buslique: is this some vpc ?
[11:31] <buslique> ikonia, no, it's desktop ubuntu 16.04 with upgraded kernel
[11:31] <ikonia> an ugraded kernel....from where
[11:31] <ikonia> this sounds very odd
[11:31] <ikonia> you've got sendmail running as an MTA, non-standard kernels
[11:31] <ikonia> sounds like you're messing around a lot
[11:32] <ikonia> buslique: first hit on google http://serverfault.com/questions/58052/what-is-sensible-mda-and-do-i-need-it
[11:33] <buslique> ikonia,  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/linux-headers-4.6.0-040600-generic.....
[11:33] <ikonia> buslique: I'm sorry - I'm not going to support your machine, if you're installing custom kernels you should have a basic grasp how to manage your machine,
[11:33] <ducasse> buslique: why have you installed that kernel?
[11:35] <buslique> ikonia, yes, i know when I install sensible-mda - i will not see any errors in log. i just wanna know - is it good to see that messages? i mean why so much performs to send smth?
[11:35] <ikonia> buslique: read read the thread
[11:35] <buslique> ducasse, for resolve some hardware issues - and it helped
[11:35] <ikonia> it explains why you are getting those errors, and ties into my sendmail question
[11:37] <buslique> yes, i know, but i need to know: ~15 messages - it's because of 1 query of 15?
[11:37] <ikonia> what ?
[11:37] <ikonia> 1 query of 15 ??
[11:37] <ikonia> what does that even mean
[11:38] <buslique> look: i see 15 error messages in /var/log/syslog , every 10 mins. is it caused by 15 queries?
[11:38] <ikonia> 15 queries ??
[11:38] <ikonia> what is a query ? a query of what ?
[11:39] <buslique> i mean QUEUE_INTERVAL="10m"
[11:39] <ikonia> thats how often sendmail runs the queue
[11:39] <ikonia> why are you even using sendmail ??
[11:40] <buslique> i dont remember btw)
[11:40] <buslique> "@reboot sleep 10m && timeshift --backup" in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root" so that is the query, right?
[11:40] <ikonia> sounds like you are don't pay attention to what you are doing with your machine
[11:40] <ikonia> just remove sendmail
[11:41] <ikonia> there should be no crontab in root
[11:41] <ikonia> root is disabled on ubuntu
[11:41] <ikonia> your machine is a mess - I'm not supporting it,
[11:41] <ikonia> remove sendmail if you want that error message to go away
[11:41] <buslique> i used sudo -s to see that cronjob
[11:41] <ikonia> that doesn't change what I said
[11:42] <ikonia> root is a disabled account
[11:42] <ikonia> there shouldbe no root cronjobs
[11:42] <buslique> ah, ok, got it
[11:42] <buslique> in user cronjobs i see nothing changed since freshinstall
[11:42] <buslique> so ill delete sendmail, thanks)
[11:42] <ikonia> please re-read what I'm saying
[11:42] <ikonia> it's not a cron
[11:42] <ikonia> it's the sendmail daemon
[11:43] <buslique> yea, yea, its just my carelessness
[11:43] <buslique> i understood you
[11:46] <buslique> another dumb question: why it's not good to install custom kernels from  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/*?
[11:46] <buslique> its mainline, not testing or etc
[11:46] <ikonia> mainline is testing
[11:46] <ikonia> it's totally unpatched, vanilla
[11:47] <ikonia> there is no testing done against it, it's just totally standard, no promises it will work with your system at all
[11:47] <buslique> wow, will know that
[11:47] <buslique> but it works, and seems like everything is ok
[11:47] <ikonia> buslique: "seems"
[11:48] <ikonia> and "unsupported" are the key words there
[11:49] <ajnr> Hi Is there any tool to comare files and then extract a portion of the matching line of the other file. Say I am comparing http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/5FKlGoQv and http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/fO4KJJDn and after comaring I got the output file http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/maYMuX4e which is the id of the second file . Please let me know is there any possibilities.
[11:49] <ajnr> *compare
[11:50] <ikonia> I don't know what you mean
[11:50] <ikonia> just use "diff"
[11:50] <buslique> ikonia, ok, so can I face with some issues in future with this kernel?
[11:50] <ikonia> it shows you the differences in a file
[11:50] <ikonia> buslique: no idea, thats the point
[11:50] <ikonia> buslique: and no-one will support it
[11:51] <EriC^^> ajnr: is it only 1 line at a time you're looking for?
[11:51] <OerHeks> !info meld
[11:51] <apaternoster_> Hallo :) I've a problem with Ubuntu 16.04 installation. The problem is similar to this one https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByC9IA-s4KqwZ1RDYnlXQWtkYUU/view?pref=2&pli=1. There is a solution ? I can't click next and I can't exit from the installer...
[11:52] <ajnr> EriC^^, no there may be number of lines in both the files but after comparing I am taking the ids only .
[11:52] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: it is something to do with uefi
[11:53] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: try ctrl+alt+f1, and type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste here
[11:53] <EriC^^> also do ls /sys/firmware/efi
[11:54] <EriC^^> ajnr: the first file always doesn't have id's? just the line?
[11:54] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: ok. I've no other system... Here it is http://termbin.com/c1pi
[11:54] <ajnr> ikonia, diff is not working here
[11:54] <ikonia> define not working
[11:54] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: the last one sdc is the live usb
[11:54] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: and ls /sys/firmware/efi ?
[11:54] <ikonia> it's pretty hard for diff not to work
[11:55] <ajnr> EriC^^, yes just the lines and the second one has line plus id's , so i need to compare both the files and if matches then get the ids
[11:55] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/mztg
[11:55] <ajnr> ikonia, I mean to say that as per what I need , diff is not givingme the output
[11:55] <EriC^^> ajnr: ok, hold on
[11:56] <buslique> ikonia, if 4.6.0 will be released as official - am i need to upgrade or patch my 4.6.0-040600 to a fresh released?
[11:57] <buslique> ikonia, its will be a differ versions, right?\
[11:57] <ikonia> buslique: 4.6.0 will not be released officially
[11:58] <lerner> I have 2 pdf DIN-A 4 pages I need to fit into one DIN-A4. TO do that I need a program to decrease the size of the 2 pictures (one per page) what app do I need?
[11:58] <ikonia> buslique: you've changed your dependency path now for the kernel and associated dependencies
[11:58] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: Have you see the last paste ? (ls /sys/firmware/efi)
[11:59] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: ok, it looks good
[11:59] <OerHeks> lerner,  LibreOffice Writer should be able to
[11:59] <aruns> Hi.
[11:59] <EriC^^> you're booted in uefi mode and you have a gpt partition table, what does the error message mean apaternoster_ ?
[12:00] <apaternoster_> Yes, I'm in uefi (i selected uefi entry) and I-ve gpt table partition.
[12:00] <lerner> OerHeks, the picture includes code bars, I worry about its quality...
[12:00] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: I don't know, I want to know what it is...
[12:00] <aruns> I just ran rm on a PolarisOffice installer on my Downloads folder. It was called PolarisOfficeInstaller (1).exe. When I ran the rm command, it used backward slashes to escape the empty spaces. But it appeared like this on the terminal: PolarisOfficeInstaller\ \(1\).exe
[12:01] <aruns> Why does it need to include a backwards slash inside the parenthetical brackets?
[12:01] <ikonia> aruns: to escape the )
[12:01] <aruns> There isn't a space within the parenthetical brackets AFAIK?
[12:01] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: It shows up after I press install button on installer
[12:01] <aruns> ikonia: Ah OK, thanks.
[12:01] <aruns> ikonia: Is the ) considered a special character?
[12:01] <ikonia> aruns: yes
[12:02] <aruns> OK.
[12:02] <ikonia> as is (
[12:02] <ikonia> and you can see there is an escape before that
[12:02] <aruns> Oh yeah.
[12:02] <OerHeks> lerner, if you do, one way to find out
[12:02] <jatt> use double quotes to don't escape
[12:02] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: but I've all the partition /boot/efi, /, swap
[12:02] <aruns> Or single quotes.
[12:03] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: and other partition like /home, /tmp...
[12:03] <aruns> Oh, now I see, pretty tired today haha.
[12:03] <aruns> Should have looked at it more closely :p
[12:04] <EriC^^> ajnr: almost done..
[12:04] <ajnr> EriC^^, ok
[12:04] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: I also tried to re-create the live usb and tried to boot more times the live but always same problem...
[12:05] <buslique> ikonia, ok, but i havent add custom kernel ppa's on my ppa list. any advices to do it right? downgrade current kernel or use another but official?
[12:05] <EriC^^> ajnr: how do you want the output?
[12:05] <lerner> OerHeks, good tip, thx
[12:05] <EriC^^> just the matching id's?
[12:05] <ajnr> EriC^^, means , in separate file
[12:05] <ikonia> buslique: how did you get the kernel if you didn't add a repo
[12:06] <ajnr> id's and/or  the text EriC^^
[12:06] <EriC^^> ajnr: try this length=$(wc -l < /path/to/linesfile); for i in $(seq 1 $length); do grep "$(head -"$i" /path/to/linesfile | tail -1)" /path/to/idandlines | cut -d" " -f1; done
[12:07] <ajnr> EriC^^, ok trying
[12:07] <ajnr> EriC^^, how to run
[12:07] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: you don't know the language of the error message?
[12:08] <EriC^^> ajnr: replace /path/to/linesfile with the file with just the lines, and /path/to/idandlines with the other one
[12:08] <EriC^^> and just run the whole thing from length=$(.....
[12:09] <buslique> ikonia, wget kernel deb's and dpkg -i.
[12:09] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: I'm italian but I know some English. But I can't click next and I can't exit from installer when this pop up shows up
[12:09] <ikonia> buslique: just remove it then
[12:09] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: I know what the message says...
[12:09] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: what does the error message mean in english?
[12:09] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: it is in english
[12:10] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: nope it was italian
[12:11] <ajnr> no nothing came EriC^^
[12:11] <EriC^^> ajnr: what exactly did you run?
[12:12] <ajnr> EriC^^, i run in the terminal , length=$(wc -l < /home/anupamj/Desktop/AJ/netaji/netaji_files_Code_mixed_only.txt); for i in $(seq 1 $length); do grep "$(head -"$i" /home/anupamj/Desktop/AJ/netaji/netaji_files_Code_mixed_only.txt | tail -1)" /home/anupamj/Desktop/AJ/netaji/netaji_ke_files_with_ID.tsv | cut -d" " -f1; done
[12:13] <ajnr> EriC^^, here you  are giving two input file
[12:13] <ajnr> EriC^^, output file i have redirected using  >
[12:13] <ajnr> EriC^^, but it came blank
[12:14] <buslique> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19620222/ i need to delete 4.5 and 4.6 and back tlinux-image-generic 4.4.0.31.33 , right?
[12:14] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: Sorry XD  Yes, I traslate the message... "The firmware of this PC has started the installer in UEFI mode, but seems that there are other operating systems that uses BIOS compatibility mode. If you click next it is possible that you can't restart other systems that uses compatiblity mode. If you want to continue click next, overwise click back and exit from the installer"
[12:14] <EriC^^> that's odd, it works here, try without redirecting for a bit
[12:14] <buslique> ikonia, back to *
[12:14] <ikonia> buslique: remove anything you've installed not from the ubuntu repos
[12:14] <ajnr> EriC^^, where the output will be displayed ?
[12:14] <ikonia> buslique: it's up to you what you do really
[12:14] <EriC^^> ajnr: i tested it by creating 2 files, one with 1234 bla bla , and 1234 ee and the other with random lines and bla bla and ee
[12:14] <EriC^^> ajnr: on the terminal
[12:15] <ajnr> EriC^^, blank
[12:15] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: Sorry but I though I publish the english version..
[12:15] <ajnr> EriC^^, nothing came
[12:15] <EriC^^> ajnr: are you able to grep that .tsv file usually?
[12:15] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: I think you can now understand the message..
[12:16] <buslique> ikonia, ok, thanks for advices, but it's a not wrong idea to keep current 4.6 kernel, if I dont see some errors or smth like this?
[12:16] <ikonia> buslique: it's up to you
[12:16] <ajnr> EriC^^, this is the file with out id http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/0Yt157Tb and this one is with id http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/EOVylqCZ
[12:16] <daumie> I'm helping out a friend...... he's got 4 linux distros installed and windows 7 .....Grub picks only linux distros igonores windows boot mgr......ho do i fix this?
[12:17] <Lokie> hi, I am trying to use a live usb with 14.04 to do something and I am running out of space. IS there a way to increase it's size from 1GB to 2+ ? (the usb is 8GB)
[12:17] <jatt> 4.6 kernels from the ppa are ok as long you don't use them for production
[12:17] <ikonia> no they are not "ok"
[12:18] <Lokie> the guides I see so far say to create a new casper-rw but the live usb only has a dir named that way
[12:18] <ikonia> how can you say they are 'ok' when you dno't know what they will do and how they will behave with the setup
[12:19] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: yes click continue if you don't have other os installed
[12:19] <buslique> ikonia, ok, big thanks for your advices. and the last question: if i do apt-get upgrade > sometimes it cause to upgrade official 4.4.x kernels to new, when ill delete 4.6.x am i be good with upgrades 4.4.x kernels, and is it safe to delete current 4.6??
[12:19] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: I can't all is blocked always
[12:20] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: I can't click anything, I can't click next, I can't go back :(
[12:20] <ikonia> buslique: again, it's up to you, you put 4.6 on your machine, you know your machine, so you know if it's safe
[12:20] <crafty1> Lokie: can you use either gparted or KDE partition manager
[12:20] <crafty1> or does this return an error
[12:21] <buslique> ikonia, ok, that's all, thanks a lot
[12:21] <crafty1> Lokie: but i will wager a guess you cannot expand a filesystem that is currently in use
[12:21] <Rockman> http://pazhanji.org
[12:21] <ajnr> EriC^^, ok , if i remove the dates in between id and text then it works
[12:22] <ajnr> EriC^^, but its repeating the output
[12:23] <EriC^^> ajnr: it's because they aren't word for word match
[12:23] <EriC^^> in the line file aishkapoor sir kya 23 ko govt . netaji ki files diclassify karegi ?
[12:24] <EriC^^> in the id file 690125357370994690      Thu Jan 21 16:24:41 IST 2016    @aishkapoor sir kya 23 ko govt. netaji ki files diclassify karegi?
[12:24] <EriC^^> see the "." next to govt ?
[12:24] <ajnr> EriC^^, ok
[12:25] <EriC^^> maybe match if the first word is the same?
[12:25] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: hmm
[12:25] <ajnr> EriC^^, why repeat the numbers ?
[12:26] <ajnr> EriC^^, so is there any solution ?
[12:26] <Lokie> crafty1 if I booted to another ubuntu installation and used gparted on the live usb?
[12:26] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: i wonder why it thinks you have an os in bios mode, maybe it thinks the live usb is?
[12:26] <EriC^^> cause the partition table is msdos?
[12:27] <Kirito> With the seeming increase in Linux support from Nvidia, I wonder if I can hope for mobile SLI support any time in the near or distant future. Probably not
[12:27] <EriC^^> ajnr: do you want to match them based on first word?
[12:27] <ajnr> EriC^^, ok
[12:28] <ajnr> EriC^^, isit not possible to match the whole line ?
[12:28] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: Yes usb live is msdos... Fat32
[12:29] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: but how I create a normal Ubuntu bootable usb...
[12:29] <apaternoster_> But I}
[12:29] <khalifa> canal fr please
[12:29] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: but I*
[12:30] <EriC^^> ajnr: because the lines dont match, they have differences
[12:31] <EriC^^> bla . bla
[12:31] <EriC^^> bla. bla
[12:31] <ajnr> EriC^^, ok
[12:31] <ajnr> EriC^^, first word can be taken then
[12:32] <ajnr> EriC^^, any reason for repeat output ?
[12:33] <EriC^^> ajnr: one sec
[12:33] <EriC^^> i'll make it to match if starting word and last word match, hold on
[12:34] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: try to make the live usb have a gpt partition table maybe it won't make the error anymore
[12:34] <EriC^^> apaternoster_: first you can try the easy way of converting msdos to gpt with gdisk
[12:34] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: How ?
[12:35] <EriC^^> try sudo gdisk /dev/sdX (replace X with the usb)
[12:36] <apaternoster_> EriC^^: ok I try, bye we see later If I have other problems...
[12:41] <EriC^^> ajnr: the punctuation is so off with last words it's not working too
[12:42] <EriC^^> ajnr: hold on
[12:42] <ajnr> EriC^^, ok
[12:45] <tatertots> good morning everyone
[12:46] <kisb> gud afternoon
[12:50] <Kirito> When I enable auto-hide in the launcher settings, it seems to only reveal the launcher once when I move my mouse to the left/top left corner of my screen, and then it won't reveal itself again unless I hold down the windows/meta key. Is that a known glitch?
[12:52] <Rockman> hey guys use my webservice to transfer ur files http://pazhanji.org
[12:53] <Kirito> oh, I see, it has to do with how fast you hit the corner, and the default sensitivity is just really low for my touchpad apparently.
[12:53] <vuur> @Rockman no SSL?
[12:53] <OerHeks> Rockman, i don't trust it. and spam is not allowed here, thanks.
[12:53] <Rockman> its not spam
[12:53] <jatt> Rockman: which is the privacy policy of your site?
[12:53] <Rockman> what should i put there
[12:53] <zaggynl>  have my own nextcloud server, but thanks
[12:53] <Rockman> i dont know what to put there
[12:54] <jatt> Rockman: why should I trust your site to transfer my files
[12:54] <Rockman> im not making any profit from it
[12:54] <vuur> Exactly what @jatt says
[12:54] <vuur> How can we trust this
[12:54] <Rockman> its a startup
[12:54] <vuur> No HTTPS
[12:54] <teward> !offtopic
[12:54] <Rockman> wait i will add https
[12:54] <Rockman> maybe thats the reason why im getting kicked from groups
[12:54] <\9> didn't you just spam this yesterday in here?
[12:54] <Rockman> yes
[12:54] <vuur> ^
[12:55] <\9> seriously bugger off
[12:55] <OerHeks> Rockman, as it is not related to ubuntu support, please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:55] <jatt> 😈
[12:55] <Rockman> ooh ok thanks
[12:55] <madhu__> jatt: may I communicate with you
[12:55] <Kirito> you're probably getting kicked because no one appreciates the spam, not because you don't support HTTPS
[12:55] <\9> he's been kicked yesterday
[12:56] <Rockman> dood i will support https
[12:56] <EriC^^> ajnr: this checks the first word if it matches
[12:56] <cecja> he is in every channel advertising this shit show of a filehosting service
[12:56] <EriC^^> ajnr: file1=/path/to/lines; file2=/path/to/lineswithid; length=$(wc -l < ee); for i in $(seq 1 $length); do lookfor=$(head -$i $file1 | tail -1 | cut -d" " -f1); awk '$8 ~ /'$lookfor'/ { print $1}' $file2; done
[12:56] <ajnr> EriC^^, ok
[12:56] <madhu__> Rackman :
[12:56] <Rockman> come on i need users using my service
[12:56] <Rockman> hi madhu ur indian ...like me
[12:56] <OerHeks> !spam
[12:56] <madhu__> Racoman : yes, Xeon E3-1200 v3 series supported kernel in ubuntu
[12:56] <Kirito> You should try re-reading what I said again
[12:57] <Rockman> https costs me money i cant afford :(
[12:57] <EriC^^> ajnr: sorry typo
[12:58] <EriC^^> ajnr: file1=/path/to/lines; file2=/path/to/lineswithid; length=$(wc -l < $file1); for i in $(seq 1 $length); do lookfor=$(head -$i "$file1" | tail -1 | cut -d" " -f1); awk '$8 ~ /'$lookfor'/ { print $1}' "$file2"; done
[12:58] <Rockman> anyway dont transfer ur sensitive files thru http://pazhanji.org .... jsut public stuffs
[12:58] <ajnr> EriC^^, ok
[12:58] <tatertots> what to put there?..you could make a place to collect all your family photos from member of your family, to make a big shared scrap book ect
[12:59] <madhu__> Rock :
[12:59] <ducasse> Rockman: you've been told repeatedly to stop, so stop.
[12:59] <Rockman> ok jkesus
[13:00] <madhu__> ok
[13:00] <ajnr> EriC^^, I am getting only 690759623847055000
[13:00] <ajnr> 690759623847055000
[13:00] <ajnr> 690759623847055000
[13:00] <ajnr> 690862121748329000
[13:00] <ajnr> 690759623847055000
[13:00] <Guest66143> hi
[13:01] <EriC^^> ajnr: this is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/19623923/
[13:02] <ajnr> EriC^^, can you explain please the code
[13:02] <EriC^^> ajnr: with matching lines http://paste.ubuntu.com/19624030/
[13:02] <ajnr> EriC^^, yes it comes now
[13:03] <EriC^^> ajnr: use | sort -u at the end so it removes the duplicates, hmm just thought of something
[13:04] <madhu__> Ajnr :  Hi
[13:04] <ajnr> EriC^^, Thanks
[13:04] <ajnr> madhu__, yes
[13:04] <madhu__> Ajnr: please let me know Xeon E3-1200 v3 series supported kernel in ubuntu
[13:04] <EriC^^> ajnr: nevermind
[13:04] <EriC^^> ajnr: no problem
[13:05] <ajnr> EriC^^, can you please explain the code
[13:05] <Mikerhinos> am I the only one to have wifi problems since today ? Can't connect to my router :( have to tether with my phone
[13:05] <madhu__> Anjr: it is latest processor in entry model servers: xeo e3 1200 version 3 processor
[13:05] <Industrial> Hello!
[13:05] <Industrial> I have a problem
[13:06] <EriC^^> ajnr: it gets the number of lines first, then one by one it checks with awk if the first word after the date is that and gets the matches
[13:06] <Industrial> I installed Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop which has a NVIDIA 980M video card
[13:06] <Industrial> if I try to do the "try ubuntu" then it fails with compiz errors
[13:06] <ajnr> EriC^^, ok
[13:07] <Industrial> if I do in install option from the ISO then it will install ubuntu
[13:07] <Industrial> when I boot into ubuntu then it will also give me the compiz errors
[13:07] <Industrial> So I see no option\
[13:07] <Industrial> If I press CTRL + F1 to get a terminal then I get a black screen
[13:07] <ajnr> madhu__, no idea actually
[13:07] <Industrial> What do I do?
[13:08] <madhu__> Ajnr: How to find the kernel will support processor
[13:09] <ducasse> !nomodeset | Industrial
[13:11] <Industrial> ducasse: thanks
[13:12] <urcked> Been trying to setup a VPN for hours now. Installed network-manager-openvpn. However, no option in network manager either to setup or import VPN
[13:12] <ducasse> madhu__: that cpu should be supported, what problems are you having?
[13:14] <madhu__> Ducasse: Welcome. It is installing. but not creating RAID 1 in sw
[13:14] <madhu__> Ducasse : How to know which kernel will support the processor
[13:15] <ducasse> madhu__: i doubt that is a kernel problem.
[13:16] <ducasse> urcked: right-click the nm applet, choose edit connections, click add and you should be able to select openvpn from the list.
[13:16] <tatertots> madhu do you know what storage controller you are using? sata/sas controller?
[13:17] <madhu__> Tatertots : C100 controller
[13:17] <tatertots> madhu do you know the key sequence to enter the C100 during boot?
[13:18] <madhu__> Tatertots : I did in Legacy Mode
[13:20] <madhu__> Tatertots : Please let me know if did any mistake
[13:20] <tatertots> madhu did you look for button to press to manage C100
[13:21] <tatertots> usually CTRL+(some key)
[13:21] <codepython7771> is there a system utility that can do this: read stdout from multiple processes and write to stdout?
[13:21] <tatertots> give me the model of your sever, that will make this easier
[13:21] <madhu__> Tatertots : ok Thanks. I not yet tried. I will try
[13:22] <rsevero> Hi. I recently upgraded my home network t0 16.04. I use nfs mounts and one of the mounts uses cross mounting, i.e., I have one share on my nfs server but on the server, under this share, on several subdirectories, I have several other filesystems mounted. I want all these filesystems accessible on my nfs clients. This worked just fine up to version 15.10. Now my 16.04 clients return a
[13:22] <rsevero> Impossible to access /multimidia/musicas: Operation not permited
[13:22] <rsevero> error when I try to acess one of these extra filesystems through the nfs share.
[13:22] <rsevero> I've tested on last client that is still running version 15.10 and the mount is working as expected on it so I believe the problem isn't on the server which has already been upgraded do 16.04.
[13:22] <madhu__> Tatertots : x3100 M5 Xeon E3-1200 v3 series
[13:22] <rsevero> Here is my share line on the server's /etc/exportfs file:
[13:22] <rsevero> And here is my fstab entry on one of my clients:
[13:23] <tatertots> madhu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDiZURQfSio
[13:24] <Industrial> ducasse: I can not get into a terminal with ctrl + alt + F1
[13:24] <tatertots> madhu looks like LSI based software raid managed through bios
[13:24] <Industrial> I get a black screen
[13:24] <madhu__> Tatertots : Ok. Let me check
[13:24] <Industrial> So I can not run the `apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade` listed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-3.8/+bug/1564156
[13:25] <Industrial> Feels like I'm so close :(
[13:25] <tatertots> madhu create/manage your raid 1 there in bios, then install your OS in the standard/nothing special as any other desktop user would fashion
[13:25] <Industrial> When will 16.04.1 be ready?
[13:26] <ducasse> Industrial: read the link ubottu gave you, under the heading 'How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS'
[13:26] <Industrial> can I download the ISO now?
[13:26] <cecja> next week
[13:27] <Industrial> ah! press shift to get to get into grub!
[13:27] <Industrial> nice
[13:27] <madhu__> Tatertots : Saying my experince.  I tried but getting /dev/md126_raid1 readonly. Operation not permitted to write on disk.
[13:27] <madhu__> Totertots : partition table not writing on disk
[13:27] <madhu__> Totertots : Ducasse has advised me to go sw raid. But I dont know the error
[13:28] <ducasse> madhu__: can't you set the controller to just work as a storage controller, turn off raid mode?
[13:28] <tatertots> you have no choice but to go sw raid with the LSI based software controller
[13:29] <tatertots> but that does NOT mean create the array in ubuntu
[13:29] <Industrial> ducasse: pressing shift after the boot logo (MSI) will not work. as soon as it starts with the purple screen i get my desktop like 2 secs later
[13:29] <tatertots> you're going to be using software raid no matter how to slice it
[13:29] <Industrial> and im pressing shift the whole time
[13:29] <tatertots> as you do not have a true hardware raid controller i.e PERC 6i
[13:29] <ducasse> Industrial: if you're holding it down, try spammin it. also try escape.
[13:30] <tatertots> software raid as in setup and controlled in BIOS
[13:30] <Kongstad1> Hi, I need help to set up the resolution for my new monitor Asus VX24AH on Nvidia 210. I have been trying to follow the guidelines https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112186 to no avail. Running at the moment 1900x1200 and the montior is capable of 2560x1440.
[13:30] <tatertots> when you get to the ubuntu parts you will treat it as any ordinary disk
[13:32] <tatertots> madhu you will end up with /dev/sdX just like any other non raid install
[13:32] <tatertots> this is a good thing
[13:33] <madhu__> Tatertots Thank you. I installed in single disk and trying to make RAID 1. now.
[13:33] <tatertots> madhu can you post screen shot of your BIOS raid configuration...might need to use your smartphone
[13:34] <madhu__> Tatertots and Ducasses : thaks both for good guidence.
[13:34] <tatertots> your raid is managed OUTSIDE of the operating system....NOT with the operating system
[13:34] <madhu__> Please explain
[13:34] <tatertots> the LSI software based C100 is managed in the BIOS
[13:34] <madhu__> ok
[13:35] <tatertots> once you have booted ubuntu remove RAID from your brain/thinking
[13:35] <tatertots> madhu how many hard drives do you have inside your system?
[13:35] <madhu__> 1 TB HDDs :  2 Nos.
[13:36] <sulle\a> When i try to play games they appear on my second screen. Not on my main screen. Why is that ?
[13:36] <tatertots> madhu is that 2x 1TB hdd's?
[13:36] <madhu__> Once installation completed. Need to check both are working and sync
[13:36] <tatertots> no you will do none of this "checking"
[13:36] <tatertots> OUTSIDE of the OS/ubuntu
[13:37] <tatertots> it's in the BIOS
[13:37] <tatertots> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDiZURQfSio
[13:37] <tatertots> do your "checking' they are working and sync as you say in BIOS
[13:37] <madhu__> Basically software raid. We need to manage if any disk fail
[13:37] <tatertots> your raid will be transparent
[13:38] <tatertots> you won't even know you're using raid at the OS/ubuntu level
[13:39] <sulle\a> I have a dualbooted laptop with win10 and ubuntu. but now i find out that my ubuntu storage is too low. How can i change this without reinstalling everything ?.
[13:39] <tatertots> don't let the term/phrase 'software' raid confuse you.
[13:39] <tatertots> you cannot hardware raid on your sever
[13:40] <madhu__> Just confusing. May I remove and new disk if disk fail directly
[13:40] <madhu__> yes. There is no hardware raid
[13:40] <tatertots> true hardware raid controllers add expense/$ to the cost of the server....low end / low cost servers/desktops will always use 'software' raid solutions
[13:40] <ducasse> sulle\a: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition
[13:41] <madhu__> Thats fine.
[13:41] <sulle\a> ducasse, but i can do this even if i dont want to reinstall ubuntu ?
[13:41] <tatertots> software based raid solutions on servers are always configured and managed in the sofware RAID BIOS
[13:42] <ducasse> sulle\a: read the link, it explains everything. back up first.
[13:42] <madhu__> Please share the url to install the raid 1
[13:42] <tatertots> you can for the most part treat them as you would a real raid in the event of a hdd failure
[13:42] <sulle\a> ducasse, thanks
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> sulle\a  with gparted you *can* resize partitions without dataloss, but it takes a long time, like several hours
[13:43] <tatertots> ubuntu should only see a single 1TB storage to work with if you have done things properly
[13:43] <tatertots> ubuntu will only see a single 1TB of space to install to as /dev/sda
[13:44] <tatertots> if you have configured your raid 1 that consists of 2x 1TB hdd's properly in BIOS
[13:44] <sulle\a> MonkeyDust, Ok :)
[13:44] <tatertots> if you can see both disk in ubuntu you are doing it wrong
[13:44] <tatertots> either that or raid 1 isn't really what you want
[13:45] <tatertots> raid concepts/terminology can be confusing
[13:45] <madhu__> I did without using BIOS RAID1 setting. it is showing 2 hdd.
[13:45] <tatertots> i know madhu
[13:45] <tatertots> this is not proper
[13:45] <tatertots> enter BIOS like shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDiZURQfSio
[13:45] <tatertots> and create the raid 1 array in BIOS as shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDiZURQfSio
[13:46] <tatertots> only proceed with ubuntu once this has been completed
[13:46] <tatertots> do NOT skip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDiZURQfSio
[13:47] <tatertots> raid sounds fancy and i know you want something to gawk and look at in your operating system but it's really quite simple
[13:47] <tatertots> and it's managed OUTSIDE the os/ubuntu
[13:48] <madhu__> I did the same but it is not installing. error array readonly
[13:48] <madhu__> I can able to install wihout bios raid 1
[13:50] <tatertots> sure if you want to install without raid just install to /dev/sda which is the first of your two 1TB hdd's
[13:50] <tatertots> you will need to purge/destroy any raid that you have done with ubuntu first
[13:51] <tatertots> no more /dev/md madness
[13:51] <madhu__> I did the bios raid1 and start the installation.  At the time of  partition showing array RAIDraid1_readonly
[13:51] <madhu__> operation is not permitted to write on disk
[13:52] <madhu__> It is not taking bios raid. I need to install RAID 1 wihout using bios raid
[13:52] <ducasse> madhu__: doesn't the installer see /dev/sda?
[13:52] <xpheres> hello
[13:53] <xpheres> anyone could advise me which channel to ask about an issue with jack?
[13:53] <madhu__> Ducases : I can able to install in single disk. but unable to create raid1
[13:53] <tatertots> madhu...i know from experience that some fake raid controllers are not supported because the OS/ubuntu would need drivers
[13:53] <tatertots> https://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=migr-5089068
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> xpheres  try here, first
[13:53] <xpheres> Jack never starts, I check all kind of forums and solutions and it did not work
[13:53] <tatertots> they have linux drivers for the C100 fake raid controller
[13:53] <ducasse> madhu__: install on sda, don't think raid - that is managed by the bios.
[13:53] <xpheres> I added my user to the sound group
[13:53] <xpheres> I restarted jack
[13:53] <xpheres> no way to make it work
[13:54] <RNeville> Good morning, running Ubuntu 14.04 and want to ask a question (probably off topic , which I apologize in advance - if such a thing possible)
[13:54] <madhu__> ok
[13:54] <tatertots> the OS would need to know how to work with the fake raid controller (through drivers)
[13:54] <xpheres> I'm trying to record while I'm playing a midi piano which works trough jack and fluidsynth as synthetizer
[13:54] <RNeville> I want to set at my computer and send SMS messages and get SMS replies- either to the computer or my smartphone
[13:54] <xpheres> I can not route the audio to audacity or any other software to record the sound
[13:54] <madhu__> Drivers where to get it
[13:55] <xpheres> I would be grateful for any advice
[13:55] <tatertots> madhu fake raid drivers are here https://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=migr-5089068
[13:55] <tatertots> that's IBM's website
[13:55] <madhu__> It is ok to install REDHAT.
[13:55] <tatertots> they have drivers for RedHat and Novell SLES
[13:56] <madhu__> Very simple. All are included in the Image
[13:56] <ducasse> madhu__: wait. which disk devices can the installer see?
[13:56] <madhu__> C100
[13:57] <madhu__> Ducasse : it is showing the arrary without any drivers 12.04 version. I dont know where I am lacking
[13:57] <RealPanV> Hey guys, I want to give administrative privileges to a specific user (so he can use sudo) without the need to tell him my own password. How can I do that?
[13:58] <ducasse> madhu__: it shows a /dev/md* device, not /dev/sd*?
[13:58] <natmal> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu. I'm attempting to configure mysql. I get my.cnf/mysql.cnf, but there are multiple configuration directories--conf.d and mysql.conf.d--why are there two? Which one should I be using?
[13:59] <deathcode> help
[13:59] <deathcode> hello
[14:00] <RealPanV> deathcode: Hello, describe your problem if you have any ^_^
[14:00] <madhu__> Ducasse: in single showing /dev/sda. I installed but not checked
[14:00] <RealPanV> *one c;
[14:00] <RealPanV>                                                                                               
[14:00] <madhu__> Decasse : I am tring to convert REDhat drivers to ubuntu
[14:00] <deathcode> fun
[14:00] <tatertots> These driver images can be used to create a USB key, CD, DVD, or floppy disk    containing the driver formatted for use during the installation of the    operating system.
[14:00] <ducasse> madhu__: ok. just install to sda, and that should work.
[14:02] <madhu__> My instention to give support on x3100 M5 after inallation.
[14:02] <natmal> Nevermind; figured out mysql.conf.d is for mysqld. Who thought this confusing naming convention was a good idea?
[14:04] <tatertots> madhu i've taken many support calls on the C100 for non windows OS use, the general consensus is it's not worth the effort,
[14:06] <tatertots> most enterprise IT people worth their weight in salt knows to avoid software/fake C100 controllers like the plague
[14:07] <tatertots> treat is as a normal run of the mill sata controller and you'll be fine
[14:08] <tatertots> if raid in critical in your server....spend the extra $ and get real hardware raid like PERC6/H700
[14:08] <madhu__> Thanks Tatertots. It is for my knowledge to avoid problems. Thank you very much for kind support
[14:08] <tatertots> those are found in dell's line of poweredge servers
[14:08] <SchrodingersScat> RealPanV: can add them to /etc/sudoers, can maybe add them to a group too
[14:09] <SchrodingersScat> RNeville: Sending texts is easy, don't see much about receiving
[14:09] <RealPanV> Ok thanks
[14:09] <RealPanV> So the command is gedit /etc/sudoers right?
[14:10] <tatertots> plus your CEO's and CTO's will be happy you didn't trust the company's data to some cheap C100 fake raid....they will thank you for it ...they might balk at the extra expense but you tell them it's worth it...end of story
[14:10] <SchrodingersScat> RealPanV: in /etc/sudoers you can even give them access to specific programs without needing sudo, etc.  and maybe try 'gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers' without the 's
[14:10] <Rockman> www.pazhanji.org
[14:10] <RealPanV> So can I run that command from the target user or I need to go back to my account?
[14:10] <madhu__> Great
[14:11] <SchrodingersScat> RealPanV: you'll need sudo privileges to edit that
[14:11] <RealPanV> sudo privileges to give sudo makes sense
[14:11] <RealPanV> ok thanks
[14:11] <tatertots> fake raid in the enterprise is a dirty four letter word
[14:11] <tatertots> thou shalt not speak of or use it
[14:12] <RNeville> SchrodingersScat, I agree with you, I can use Skype on Linux to send SMS , but not receive the incoming SMS text.
[14:12] <ducasse> Rockman: you've got to be kidding. don't you listen?
[14:12] <RNeville> Thought maybe incoming SMS could be sent to my android smartphone , but it doesn't seem to work
[14:13] <OerHeks> !ops | Rockman spam again today
[14:13] <RNeville> does anyone use their Desktop to send and receive SMS text?
[14:14] <SchrodingersScat> RNeville: I only use ssmtp to send what's technically an email to my sms gateway :^) it lets me know when my machines feel pain
[14:14] <BluesKaj> hi all
[14:14] <ducasse> RNeville: there is a java thing that's called desktopsms that works together with an app on your android phone, but i haven't used it in a long time.
[14:15] <RNeville> so SchrodingersScat  if your server has a problem, it will send an alert you can receive on phone via SMS text?
[14:15] <RNeville> thx ducasse
[14:15] <Kongstad> I need help to setup resolution for my monitor to 2560x1440. The highest resolution at the moment is 1900x1200. Graphical card is Nvidia 210.
[14:16] <RNeville> I just think sending and receiving SMS text on a desktop would be a tremendously effective communication channel
[14:16] <RNeville> maybe, I'm just so lost (in the effective communications realm) that I'm overlooking the obvious
[14:18] <SchrodingersScat> RNeville: if a gui works for you, then Airdroid worked for me for a while, made sending long txts to boss easier because I could type it out on a real keyboard.
[14:18] <ducasse> RNeville: here it is - https://sites.google.com/site/desktopsmsforandroid/en
[14:18] <RNeville> thx SchrodingersScat & ducasse
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> !nvidia | Kongstad
[14:19] <SchrodingersScat> RNeville: but yes, when my server has a problem that generates an email I use ssmtp to handle the mail and send it to my sms gateway for my phone, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_gateway#Email_clients , and I get it in the form of a text.
[14:20] <RNeville> SchrodingersScat, I assume Airdroid is an Apple app, only?
[14:20] <RNeville> I'll quieted down, now
[14:21] <RNeville> I'll quieten down, now
[14:21] <SchrodingersScat> RNeville: nope, Airdroid is an android app, free/premium, free lets you access 2 devices, has a feature to open up your messages in web browser
[14:21] <RNeville> please disrecard SchrodingersScat , I realize I can use AirDroid Web - as you stated
[14:26] <SchrodingersScat> RealPanV: any luck?
[14:26] <RealPanV> Hello, I did visudo as /etc/sudoers advised me and I don't know how to promote a certain user to being able to use root.
[14:27] <RealPanV> SchrodingersScat: I accessed it with gedit then did visudo yeah.
[14:28] <SchrodingersScat> RealPanV: check other sources on if this is recommended, but I normally simply add the username followed with "ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" without the quotes if I'm giving them full sudo.
[14:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> RealPanV, your user must be part of the wheel/sudo group and the wheel/sudo line should be enabled in sudoers.
[14:28] <SchrodingersScat> yeah, or groups
[14:29] <RealPanV> How can I add people to the %admin or %sudo group? (I prefer %admin)
[14:29] <RealPanV> Yeah
[14:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> I forget the actual defaults in Ubuntu.
[14:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> gpasswd -a user group
[14:29] <RealPanV> thanks
[14:30] <RealPanV> access denied, let me try with sudo lol
[14:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> Note %admin/%sudo are placeholders/variables, not actual group names.
[14:30] <SchrodingersScat> usermod -aG sudo username
[14:30] <RealPanV> Oh it is sudo
[14:30] <RealPanV> THe group is sudo, not %sudo
[14:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> The group is probably sudo on Ubuntu, IIRC.
[14:30] <RealPanV> Yeah I figured it out
[14:31] <RealPanV> The user is added, thanks a lot guysl
[14:31] <RealPanV> let me check
[14:31] <Eduard_Munteanu> You'll still have to relogin or use newgrp to gain access.
[14:31] <SchrodingersScat> he's already gone, like a candle in the wind ;_;
[14:33] <realpanv> Let me check real quick ^-^
[14:33] <kvmmm> do you think it's a good idea to use the Ubuntu firewall?
[14:33] <tempspace> Question about systemd: I have an Ubuntu 16.04 machine that has a Solr SysV that I place in /etc/init.d..when I place the file in and do a systemctl status solr.service immediately, it says the service isn't found. If I run it later, the command works as expected. Is there a command to have systemd look for new SysV scripts or something?
[14:33] <kvmmm> I would never ever use Windows without a firewall. Not sure how Ubuntu compares in that regard
[14:34] <tempspace> I've been searching to try and figure out how it works in general, but I'm coming up short
[14:35] <SchrodingersScat> kvmmm: I think it would be recommended to use a firewall on ubuntu as well, it's your call though. you have ufw/iptables/etc
[14:35] <ducasse> tempspace: man systemd-sysv-generator
[14:35] <kvmmm> is there a simple gui to configure it?
[14:35] <Conder> hi guys, i have now dualboot windows 10 and ubuntu, if i split windows partition to two (ubuntu partition is after windows partition), will it be problem?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> !firewall | kvmmm
[14:36] <realpanv> Worked thanks a lot
[14:36] <SchrodingersScat> realpanv: great
[14:36] <kvmmm> ok, I'll use GUFW
[14:36] <kvmmm> what about virus?
[14:37] <SchrodingersScat> !virus | kvmmm
[14:37] <kvmmm> thanks!!
[14:38] <SchrodingersScat> !info clamav | kvmmm clamav and some others run on ubuntu, but if you use trusted sources for your repos then generally you shouldn't be too concerned.
[14:38] <SchrodingersScat> repos/software
[14:40] <curlyears> heigh hough
[14:41] <curlyears> Eriic^???   Are you here this morning?
[14:41] <skinux> Is there any free software that allows password-protecting directories (hopefully using encryption)?
[14:41] <tempspace> ducasse: Thanks! When they say "when configuration of the system manager is reloaded" do they mean "systemctl daemon-reload"?
[14:44] <SchrodingersScat> !info ecryptfs | skinux there's also encfs
[14:44] <SchrodingersScat> oops
[14:45] <curlyears> OK, EriC^^ must be asleep, or at work, or living his own life for a change...
[14:45] <kvmmm> wait, so by default, is the firewall configured not to open ports?
[14:45] <SchrodingersScat> !info ecryptfs-utils | skinux
[14:45] <kvmmm> like, if I just leave my Ubuntu 16 as is, will the firewall already be in place?
[14:45] <ducasse> tempspace: i would guess so, but i don't know. might mean a restart/reload of the generator only.
[14:46] <SchrodingersScat> kvmmm: what are you seeing? afaik by default there are no rules so everything would be open.
[14:46] <curlyears> so.  Last night I installed and reinstalled, trying m,ultiple configurations of partition table options, and every one of them failed with a "Failed  to form <blah blah disk segment"
[14:47] <curlyears> so I finlly took the extreme position that there was something wrong with that hard dsik drive, and replaced it witha slightly smalled SDD.  I reinstaled, configure the parition table, and "successfully" xcompleted installation.
[14:48] <kvmmm> ok, no it was off by default. I'm just trying to figure it out now
[14:48] <curlyears> when I rebooted, I got the same failure I've been getting all along "Verifying DMI pools. . . . . . . . ..."   <-   12 dots.  Then it just hangs
[14:49] <kvmmm> so I'm going to "add a firewall rule" and there's no option for XChat, Firefox, Chromium
[14:49] <curlyears> s/SDD/SSD/
[14:49] <kvmmm> I see lots of other programs, like skype / steam / vuze
[14:51] <kvmmm> this is for the "preconfigured" tab. For "simple" and "advanced" I see nothing
[14:51] <curlyears> so, anyone with any wisdom to impart on this strange and highly persistent problem?
[14:52] <curlyears> kmmm:  that is because you are expected to write tyour own rule for anything not included in the "preconfigured" options
[14:52] <ducasse> curlyears: smells like a hardware issue...
[14:53] <kvmmm> I'm reading the Gufw documentation, but it doesn't say how to do that.
[14:53] <curlyears> ducasse:  yet I can boot up off the DVD into Live DVD.  As I am at this moment.  Only way I could be here,  I don't have another computer
[14:53] <kvmmm> "Again, we'll use the SSH example - let's just pretend for a moment that there isn't a preconfigured option for it. To enable it in the Simple tab, select "Allow", "TCP", "22" and click Add." but how do I make a rule for Firefox?
[14:54] <ducasse> curlyears: i really don't know, sorry. out of interest, have you tried any other distros to see if they behave normally?
[14:55] <curlyears> sorry about that, kvmmm
[14:56] <curlyears> anyway, as I was trying to say, Firefox, beiong a web browser, probably needs a rule for port 80
[14:56] <curlyears> being
[14:56] <ducasse> kvmmm: firefox uses port 80 and 443 (http/https). you can't really edit firewall rules without understanding a bit about networking.
[14:56] <kvmmm> ah, so I open up port 80, and that will let firefox through?
[14:56] <kvmmm> or I have to open both 80 and 443?
[14:56] <tatertots> port 80 normally isn't blocked
[14:57] <kvmmm> but if I switch the firewall to "ON" Firefox doesn't connect
[14:57] <tatertots> blocking port 80 would result in not being able to browse the web in most circumstances
[14:57] <kvmmm> yes, when I turn the firewall on, nothing connects.
[14:57] <curlyears> kvmmm:  I believe that is correct.  Look on the web for the list of standard port numbers.  I haven't messed with firewall stuff in several (about 7) years, so I am not up to date on my knowledge of such things
[14:58] <ducasse> many/most sites uses https also, so you would also need to allow 443.
[14:58] <tatertots> see if there is a firewall rule blocking port 80...this could very well be the case if your firewall defaults are to lock EVERYTHING down
[14:59] <ducasse> kvmmm: you will need to allow the outgoing traffic to connect, and the return traffic to actually get anything.
[14:59] <tatertots> when installing a firewall, it helps to be informed of it's default policies
[14:59] <kvmmm> I think mine blocked everything by default
[14:59] <tatertots> better to be informed of the default firewall rules than to be caught by suprise
[14:59] <kvmmm> anyone know which port Xchat uses?
[14:59] <tatertots> surprise
[15:00] <tatertots> i hate being blind sided
[15:00] <ducasse> kvmmm: read /etc/services
[15:00] <paranoidabhi> hi
[15:00] <paranoidabhi> does installing via .deb also add the ppa to the sourcesl.list?
[15:01] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: not unless the .deb does so for you.
[15:01] <kvmmm> thanks! so looking at that it seems I don't allow "xchat" but "IRC", right?
[15:01] <curlyears> kvmmm:  yes, because port numbers are assigned to "services" under *nix, not to programs
[15:02] <kvmmm> thanks!
[15:02] <tatertots> same for windows operating system also
[15:02] <curlyears> tatertots:  that I neither needed nor wanted to kow :p
[15:02] <curlyears> know
[15:02] <kvmmm> So under the main firewall thing I will write "reject" but then make rules to allow these specific ports
[15:03] <kvmmm> I guess it's working, because that's what I have configured now
[15:04] <ducasse> kvmmm: if you ask in ##networking, they can probably point you to some guides on writing firewall rules.
[15:04] <curlyears> you know, I suppose since this system is going to e connected to my 3D printer, I guess I had better be chacking  on whatm, if any firwall there is, and what its settings might be.  *snort*
[15:04] <kvmmm> ok, thanks
[15:05] <laurus> Is there a way to have the system run a program on shutdown? I'm using Xfce.
[15:05] <curlyears> I prefer firwalls to aluminum walls, they have a warmer atmosphere :p
[15:06] <ubuntu280> i feel so dumb since i solved this problem but now im having it again
[15:06] <curlyears> ubuntu:  I have been fighting the same set of problems for over 8 months!
[15:07] <EriC^^> curlyears: any luck yesterday?
[15:07] <curlyears> EriC^^!!!!!    Sadly, no.
[15:08] <ubuntu280> so im writing a micro sd and i get to the part where i mkdir boot but it tells me there is alread a folder named boot i was able to fix the problem by using rm but i think the problem is i dont have the path to the drive
[15:08] <ubuntu280> the last time i fixed the problem with rm
[15:08] <ubuntu280> this time it doesnt allow me to
[15:08] <ubuntu280> it for some reason saves the last session
[15:09] <EriC^^> ubuntu280: what does it say?
[15:09] <akik> ubuntu280: pwd tells you the directory where you're at
[15:09] <curlyears> I tried everything I could through about 6 reinstalls, each with a different partition table configuration.  The installs kep borking, so I removed th 500GB HDD and replaced it with a 240Gb SSD that i had lying about.  I tried again, got through the installation with zero errors or problems, reported.  Went to reboot, same old DMMI Pool problem as
[15:09] <curlyears> before )-:
[15:09] <EriC^^> curlyears: with just the 240gb plugged in?
[15:10] <curlyears> Eric^^:   no, with the DVD and the 2 3TB HDDs plugged in.
[15:10] <ubuntu280> file already exists cannot create directory
[15:10] <EriC^^> ubuntu280: what path are you using?
[15:10] <curlyears> it's all runniing on SATA
[15:11] <ubuntu280> EriC^^: sudo rm boot
[15:11] <EriC^^> curlyears: want to try booting the install from the livedvd?
[15:11] <ubuntu280> a bootable arch linux SD
[15:11] <curlyears> that's what I am already doing, EriC^^
[15:11] <hammer25> when you do sudo apt-get install, are the .deb files kept soemwhere? if so, where?
[15:11] <EriC^^> ubuntu280: the absolute path is /boot?
[15:12] <ubuntu280> dev/sdb1/here
[15:12] <EriC^^> curlyears: oh no, i mean to boot the install on the hdd using the livedvd, or is that what you meant?
[15:12] <akik> ubuntu280: you can not be in /dev/sdb1 as that's just the device file
[15:13] <curlyears> how do you  "boot the install on the HDD using the LiveDVD?"
[15:13] <EriC^^> curlyears: from grub's command prompt
[15:13] <curlyears> and how do I get to grub's command prompt?
[15:14] <jost> Hi! I'm running ubuntu on my raspbi, and want it to use a static IP. So I've configured the interface eth0 in the file /etc/network/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init.cfg (where eth0 is configured after install), but after rebooting, the file is back to its previous state. Why does that happen, how do I prevent that? Am I using the wrong file?
[15:14] <EriC^^> curlyears: when you boot the livedvd right now, do you get a black and white menu?
[15:14] <ubuntu280> EriC^^: eric i have found the command thanks for the quick help the problem is the command is 'rmdir' to get rid of the false dir that was from the last build always have a good time here in umbuntu chat
[15:14] <curlyears> I have only seen grub when certain kinds of errors pop up
[15:14] <EriC^^> ubuntu280: great
[15:15] <ubuntu280> EriC^^: thanks
[15:15] <EriC^^> ubuntu280: no problem
[15:15] <curlyears> \EriC^^:  yes.  Offers Try Ubuntu without installing, install Ubuntu, and check disk
[15:15] <EriC^^> curlyears: aha, press "c" there
[15:15] <curlyears> OK.  then what?
[15:16] <EriC^^> are you able to be online from another pc/phone?
[15:16] <curlyears> EriC^^:  no, this is my only online device
[15:16] <curlyears> (the browser on my Adobe Fire tablet is unusable, at least by me)
[15:17] <EriC^^> curlyears: you type "ls -l" you should get a list of the filesystems and their UUID's, the one that's your root partition should be there, along the lines of (hd1,gpt1) or similar
[15:17] <curlyears> OK.....so far
[15:17] <EriC^^> curlyears: you do " set root='(hd1,gpt1)' "
[15:18] <curlyears> ok....
[15:18] <EriC^^> then type "linux /boot/vmlinuz<hit tab a few times to tab complete> root=UUID=<uuid you got when you did ls -l>
[15:19] <RonWhoCares> When I did my last update in Ubuntu 16.04 my external monitor (SyncMaster SA10) switched resolution from 1366x768 to 1024 x 768
[15:19] <EriC^^> (minus the first double quote before linux)
[15:19] <RonWhoCares> Any idea how to get the right resolution back?
[15:20] <EriC^^> curlyears: so like "linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic root=UUID=675357871331"
[15:20] <EriC^^> curlyears: then you choose the initrd with "initrd /boot/initrd<hit tab a few times to autocomplete as usual>
[15:20] <EriC^^> then finally you type "boot" and it should start
[15:22] <curlyears> OK..  I thihnkn I have all that
[15:23] <curlyears> I'd hate to have to go through all that to reboot my computer every time!!!
[15:24] <EriC^^> curlyears: no, you could make a livedvd that has that in it's grub.cfg
[15:24] <curlyears> it would be so helpful if I could hook my laser printer up and printscreen these things.  My handwriting *SUCKS*
[15:25] <curlyears> EriC^^:  even so, I would prefer to be able to boot directly from the HDD like a normal linux dweeb
[15:26] <EriC^^> yeah of course :)
[15:26] <curlyears> *wah*
[15:26] <EriC^^> hehe
[15:26] <EriC^^> try "configfile (hd1,gpt1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[15:27] <EriC^^> (or whatever hd1,gpt1 turns out to be for the ext partition)
[15:27] <EriC^^> it should display the grub menu of the install
[15:27] <j_triple_95> is win10 bitchier than it used to be in terms of dual boot? Tons of problems last few months
[15:28] <jost> I have a NVidia GPU (some cheap one), and connect my monitor to it using HDMI. Works fine. But if I disconnect the monitor while the machine is running, and then plug it back in, nothing appears on it
[15:28] <jost> Can this behavior be changed?
[15:29] <curlyears> This reminds me of the very early days of linux, when I bought a 5 disk linux setup pack (5 CDs), and eageraly installed it, but it wouldn't boot from the HDD.  I contacted "tech support" for yggdrizzle, and they said that it was a known problem, and walked me through building a boot diskette that eventually did a chroot to the HDD.  It took so klo
[15:29] <curlyears> ng to get all that to do it's thing, byt the tim eit finished booting, most of the time I had available for playing with linux was wasted, and I got very little use  out of it.  A few years later, I installed RedHat Linux
[15:29] <EriC^^> curlyears: you might need to do " set prefix='(hd1,gpt1)/boot/grub' " before that
[15:29] <curlyears> what does that acconmplish, EriC^^?
[15:30] <EriC^^> curlyears: it tells grub where it's main dir is and the modules it uses
[15:30] <curlyears> There is no way I am going to accomplish this without step by step guidance )-:
[15:31] <curlyears> no, i meant the ione that started "configfile"
[15:31] <EriC^^> i bought linux for windows back in 2000 or so, i barely got it to install i think, then red hat few years later but X never worked for me
[15:32] <curlyears> I was never an X or GUI user until Ubuntu 10 (my first ubuntu, I was a Red Hat command line dweeb for YEARS)
[15:32] <curlyears> I still prefer CLI
[15:32] <EriC^^> it kept hanging after the installer when i had to choose my monitor, i think i tried installing like half a dozen times choosing various monitors
[15:33] <curlyears> I think I recall trying tha once, and deciding "I don't need or want X windows anyway, so to hell with it"
[15:33] <EriC^^> :D
[15:34] <curlyears> it used to wierd other users on #linux on eFnet out that I didn't even have X installed or available on my system.  They thought I was crazy  *heh*
[15:35] <curlyears> \why would the install to the SSD result in the smae errors installing to HDDs did?
[15:36] <EriC^^> maybe it's the 3tb that's causing the problem
[15:36] <curlyears> I meanm, if it was just that the 500GB drive was dead, I could understand that.  Butt there is noting wrong with this brand new SSD
[15:36] <EriC^^> did you try without the 3tb's plugged in?
[15:37] <EriC^^> maybe it's some sort of raid setting that has to be set? (i've no clue in this area)
[15:37] <josh-miller> anyone know how to install this on Ubuntu? I keep getting an error when trying to make install http://www.openvas.org/download/wmi/wmi-1.3.14.tar.bz2
[15:37] <curlyears> no, I suppose I shoudl try that.  With my poor eyeys and shaky hands, mucking about with all those cables in that tight enclosure is NNOT fun
[15:38] <curlyears> josh-miller: it would be helpful if you told us wghat error you got
[15:38] <josh-miller> Can't use 'defined(@array)' (Maybe you should just omit the defined()?) at ./pidl/pidl line 583.
[15:39] <curlyears> josh-miller: what language is this thing written in, C++?
[15:39] <josh-miller> I believe so yes
[15:39] <curlyears> then you are going to have to go into file pidl to liine 583, and debug the line of source code
[15:40] <curlyears> EriC^^: do you see me stalling here??? :p
[15:40] <EriC^^> :D
[15:40] <EriC^^> wish i knew more about this
[15:41] <curlyears> josh-miller: I have to confess to not knowing enough about C++ to be at all helpful in your endeavour
[15:41] <josh-miller> its ok I know nothin about C++ either
[15:42] <curlyears> EriC^^: you appear to be highly knowledgeable about it...it is just a bizarre problem.
[15:42] <curlyears> is there a #c++ channel?
[15:42] <bluelivesmatter1> does anyone know if bay trail cpu fix will be coming soon?
[15:42] <EriC^^> curlyears: it's probably some sort of (stuff i dont understand here) issue
[15:42] <EriC^^> :D
[15:43] <bluelivesmatter1> this is the bay trail kernel bug whereby systems freeze under huge load.
[15:43] <EriC^^> curlyears: yeah
[15:43] <curlyears> josh-miller: try #c++
[15:44] <curlyears> bluelivesmatter1: isn't fereezing better han overheating under huge loads?  :p
[15:45] <bluelivesmatter1> curlyears: it should be fixed. otherwise, you have to lock the cpu to higher speeds, which is a problem in terms of battery life.
[15:45] <bluelivesmatter1> i know that the current 4.6 kernel still has the issue.
[15:46] <curlyears> bluelivesmatter1: I'm sorry.  I was just being a smart ass.  I shouldn't have disrespected your issue.
[15:46] <bluelivesmatter1> no problem.
[15:47] <curlyears> see you guys later  ( I *HOPE*)
[15:47] <EriC^^> see you
[15:48] <jwash> hi everyone 16.04 x64. i've got 3 monitors, on 2 displays :0 and :1, with 2 different nvidia gpus. it was a disaster before i went with the nvidia driver from the graphics ppa. but now i was forced to use xinerama to make the two displays into one large desktop, xinerama is very crashy with firefox. any suggestions to get the job done without xinerama?
[15:49] <marcin> sssss
[16:02] <ducasse> jwash: take a look at this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA#TwinView
[16:04] <jwash> ducasse: thanks but the twinview example only uses one gpu, i have 2
[16:05] <jwash> without xinerama i can't move the mouse to display :1
[16:05] <jwash> and i've lost all randr control
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> jwash  if you don't get an answer here, try the multimedia channel   #ubuntustudio
[16:08] <kolklay> Anyone got xv installed on 16.04?
[16:08] <akik> jwash: there's a BusID property for the Device section
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> kolklay  that's a yes/no question, better ask your real question
[16:09] <ducasse> jwash: look at the next bit after that
[16:10] <jwash> that case specifically states for SLI
[16:10] <jwash> i'm running 2 different gpus
[16:10] <ducasse> jwash: ah, i see.
[16:11] <akik> jwash: what does "sudo lspci | grep -i vga" say?
[16:12] <jwash> http://pastie.org/10909139
[16:13] <akik> jwash: the BusID in the value in the beginning of the lines
[16:13] <jwash> and.......
[16:13] <akik> jwash: you can differentiate with that in xorg configuration Device section
[16:14] <jwash> my xorg.conf already takes into account the two gpus
[16:14] <akik> i know that's a wrong word but english is not my first language :)
[16:15] <jwash> http://pastie.org/10909142
[16:15] <jwash> my xorg.conf
[16:20] <akik> jwash: i've got this kind of configuration segment from before
[16:20] <jwash> so i enabled the twinview, let's see what happens
[16:20] <akik> jwash: http://pastebin.com/raw/Xndj5kvi
[16:21] <learner> hey guys, how can i lower bit depth on ubuntu 16.04, I'm trying to do desktop sharing via x2go and it's slow, so trying to lower color bit depth, please help me
[16:21] <jwash> so i enabled twinview, i can;t reach the monitor on display :1
[16:22] <jwash> hmm
[16:22] <DonFermin> Hi
[16:22] <jwash> i can't drag windows to display :1, but the mouse moves there
[16:23] <DonFermin> Spanish?
[16:23] <akik> jwash: if you have the dash vertically, it stops it
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> !es
[16:23] <DonFermin> Thanks :)
[16:23] <DonFermin> :*
[16:24] <jwash> and now i can't get firefox to run on both displays at the same time
[16:25] <torpet> i have installed ubuntu on my father'S computer, and now after 2 weeks i checked the installation, and something is utterly broken
[16:26] <torpet> the pc uses a weird gtk2 theme that looks like windows 98
[16:26] <torpet> the unity menu integration isn't working either
[16:26] <torpet> even though this option is activated, all the menus appear in the program windows themselves
[16:26] <torpet> can i reset this somehow?
[16:26] <khalifa> bonjours je cherche comment acceder au canal fr
[16:26] <EriC^^> !fr | khalifa
[16:27] <EriC^^> torpet: does the guest account work?
[16:27] <torpet> EriC^^: I have disabled it
[16:28] <EriC^^> torpet: try adding a new user and check if it works or not
[16:28] <torpet> my father isn't computer-illiterate, so he didn't rm -rf /usr/share/themes or anything. he always double-checks with me as well. it just appeared overnight
[16:28] <torpet> will do so, thanks
[16:29] <jwash> yea, almost works
[16:29] <jwash> twinview isn't the solution
[16:29] <jwash> thanks for your time guys
[16:29] <jwash> i've got to run
[16:29] <EriC^^> torpet: it might be some user config issue if the new user works, otherwise maybe a graphics driver issue or kernel issue etc.
[16:30] <EriC^^> torpet: no problem
[16:33] <DonFermin> Solved!!
[16:39] <lickalott> anyone have any idea why 3 other systems (all different OS's) would be able to mount an NFS share except my ubuntu laptop?  I just had to rebuild the server and re-share out the folders.  Is there some caching that happens with NFS on the client side??
[16:41] <lickalott> this is what I'm getting "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting"
[16:41] <learner> nobody?
[16:41] <learner> hey guys, how can i lower bit depth on ubuntu 16.04, I'm trying to do desktop sharing via x2go and it's slow, so trying to lower color bit depth, please help me
[16:41] <GrnMessiah> Do you bother with lxubuntu as well?
[16:41] <GrnMessiah> Lubuntu?
[16:41] <GrnMessiah> Whatever that is . . .
[16:42] <learner> is what i'm asking such a difficult thing that's impossible to do
[16:42] <learner> like you can do this so easily in windows and mac
[16:42] <learner> why is it not doable in linux?
[16:42] <tgm4883> !patience | learner
[16:43] <learner> tgm4883: that wasn't quickly, that was a long wait
[16:43] <lickalott> here is what I'm running - sudo mount -o soft, <IP>:<remotepath>  <localpath>
[16:43] <learner> page scrolled up pretty much twice
[16:43] <tgm4883> learner: I'm more talking about your non-stop commenting
[16:43] <learner> well i'm upset that i searched the whole docs, nothing came up and i ask here and i feel ignored, i have every right to complain to get some attention at least
[16:44] <learner> i want to understand why this simple thing is impossible to do in ubuntu
[16:44] <ducasse> learner: eh, no, you don't. we're all volunteers.
[16:44] <tgm4883> learner: You feel ignored. Please see the first 3 words that ubottu told you
[16:44] <ducasse> learner: hint: you can specify bitdepth in an xorg.conf snippet
[16:45] <learner> ducasse: are you pulling my legs, there's no xorg.conf file, and when i try to create it, it doesn't do it
[16:45] <tgm4883> learner: can you paste the file you created
[16:45] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[16:45] <learner> i even tried to go in the terminal mode with alt-ctrl+F2
[16:46] <learner> what file, there's no file
[16:46] <ducasse> learner: no, i'm not.
[16:46] <tgm4883> learner: you just said you created the file...
 ducasse: are you pulling my legs, there's no xorg.conf file, and when i try to create it, it doesn't do it
[16:47] <learner> i even stopped lightdm and tried Xorg -configure again and all i got was nothing to configure
[16:47] <learner> i didn't
[16:47] <learner> read again
[16:47] <tgm4883> learner: then what does "when i try to create it, it doesn't do it" mean
[16:48] <ducasse> learner: see 'man xorg.conf', especially the DefaultDepth option
[16:48] <learner> http://pastie.org/10909156
[16:48] <learner> it says no device to configure
[16:49] <tgm4883> learner: that's not an xorg.conf file...
[16:49] <learner> tgm4883: seriously? are you trolling me? obviously! duh!
[16:49] <learner> you asked what i meant by it doesn't do it, and i just showed you
[16:49] <learner> like what kind of help are you giving me
[16:50] <learner> volunteering to mess with me, instead of help?
[16:50] <ducasse> learner: you've been given all the information you should need. drop the attitude if you want help.
[16:50] <learner> no i haven't
[16:50] <tgm4883> learner: ok, for starters, abusing the volunteers isn't going to get you much help. Second, ducasse already said you needed to make a xorg.conf file, which it sure sounded like you said you did
[16:50] <learner> changing an rgb depth should be a simple task, not you haven't go do a crazy run around to get it to work
[16:50] <ducasse> 18:48 <ducasse> learner: see 'man xorg.conf', especially the DefaultDepth option
[16:52] <OerHeks> x2gostartagent man page "<cache_type+dpi>  ...The most common value is: unix-kde-depth_24 where ,,24'' is the color depth in bit.
[16:52] <PrintTheSource> I'm looking for the linux equivalent of windows alt+enter (make window into full screen).
[16:53] <tgm4883> PrintTheSource: F11 ?
[16:53] <OerHeks> F11
[16:53] <tgm4883> although I think F11 works on windows too, so I'm not sure why they would also have alt+enter
[16:53] <Bashing-om> PrintTheSource: ^^ F11 works for me .
[16:54] <PrintTheSource> I'm looking for a shortcut to maximize my current window
[16:54] <PrintTheSource> sorry, not fullscreen =)
[16:54] <brunch875> ctrl+win+arrow up
[16:54] <brunch875> on unity
[16:55] <tgm4883> brunch875: beat me to it :)
[16:55] <Apachez> hl2_linux[11858]: segfault at 0 ip           (null) sp 00000000ff96e1fc error 14 in hl2_linux[8048000+1000]
[16:55] <tgm4883> PrintTheSource: are you on unity?
[16:55] <Apachez> well, that was a first
[16:55] <PrintTheSource> I am using ubuntu with xfce DE
[16:55] <brunch875> PrintTheSource: If you're on unity, you can hold the windows key to see the shortcuts
[16:56] <tgm4883> PrintTheSource: http://www.keyxl.com/aaac887/409/Xfce-Window-Manager-keyboard-shortcuts.htm
[16:56] <ducasse> PrintTheSource: on xfce you can set shortcuts in the window manager settings for things like maximmize.
[16:56] <PrintTheSource> oh thanks guys, that's what I'm looking for! =)
[16:56] <PrintTheSource> cya
[17:17] <noze> off topic: what's a good channel to discuss video games?
[17:17] <SchrodingersScat> !offtopic | noze
[17:18] <ducasse> !alis | noze
[17:20] <Rockman> hi guys i have gotten myself a SSL certificate for my website https://pazhanji.org
[17:20] <ducasse> !ops | Rockman still spamming
[17:23] <jatt> do you have problems with your SSL certificate under ubuntu?
[17:27] <Bashing-om> jatt: No I do not have a SSL problem, describe your issue to the channel .
[17:27] <jatt> I was asking Rockman
[17:27] <kolklay> I need libtiff4-dev and xlibs-dev to compile a program but I don't know how to get them for 1.04. Any ideas?
[17:27] <kolklay> 16.04
[17:28] <Myrtti> jatt: he's gone.
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> !find libtiff
[17:28] <Bashing-om> !info libtiff4-dev
[17:28] <pletin12> Can I install older drivers for my nvidia gpu like the 185 as I have problem with recommended newer ones?
[17:28] <ducasse> jatt: no, he's just spamming his site all over freenode. he's been repeatedly told to stop, but...
[17:28] <jatt> oh ok
[17:29] <kolklay> Bashing-om, yeah, I know that.
[17:30] <Bashing-om> pletin12: What returns : ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[17:30] <kolklay> what to do?
[17:31] <Bashing-om> kolklay: At this point, anything I could advise would break the system . Await wiser heads advise .
[17:32] <kolklay> Bashing-om, change the source code? if so how?
[17:32] <pletin12> Bashing-om: nvidia-340
[17:32] <pletin12> intel-microcode
[17:32] <pletin12> nvidia-304-updates
[17:32] <pletin12> nvidia-304
[17:33] <Bashing-om> kolklay: As above . I do not know of a safe way to downgrade .. will break lots of dependencies - so far as I know .
[17:33] <kolklay> xv compile problem shows up every ubuntu upgrade.
[17:33] <Bashing-om> !info libtiff4-dev trusty
[17:34] <ducasse> kolklay: get an updated version of the program that will work with newer libs
[17:34] <kolklay> ducasse, not opensource
[17:35] <ducasse> kolklay: well, then stay on trusty.
[17:36] <kolklay> ducasse, or goto Manjaro or pclinuxos
[17:37] <ducasse> kolklay: either way, you're stuck with the older software/libs until you can get an update.
[17:45] <deathcode1> 3
[17:45] <deathcode1> hello
[17:48] <rgl> hello. how can I send a message to system console? the one that is running getty?
[17:51] <EriC^^> rgl: write <user> <msg>
[17:53] <jatt> syslog
[17:55] <rgl> a write to /dev/console did the trick :)
[18:06] <chan_> am I doing this right?
[18:06] <chan_> I just set up xchat
[18:07] <Bashing-om> !info xchat | chan_ So far so good .
[18:07] <customer> IRSSI FTW!
[18:07] <chan_> I installed the gnome
[18:08] <chan_> gnome version of xchat i guess
[18:08] <OerHeks> xchat is no longer under development, use hexchat, a clone
[18:09] <chan_> oh.So should I ditch xchat and move to hexchat?
[18:10] <OerHeks> That would be wise, yes. or an other client that is active under development/support
[18:10] <chan_> oh..okay..thanks.. Lemme try that
[18:10] <chan_> bye!
[18:10] <OerHeks> hexchat got the same feel/look/menus
[18:12] <lickalott> anyone have any idea why 3 other systems (all different OS's) would be able to mount an NFS share except my ubuntu laptop?  I just had to rebuild the server and re-share out the folders.  Is there some caching that happens with NFS on the client side??
[18:12] <lickalott> here is what I'm running - sudo mount -o soft, <IP>:<remotepath>  <localpath>
[18:13] <lickalott> this is what I'm getting "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting"
[18:13] <customer> does the share on the server have a user/connection limit
[18:13] <customer> ?
[18:13] <Chan_ryihne> Chan is back :D
[18:13] <Chan_ryihne> on hexchat
[18:14] <ducasse> lickalott: did you look at the logs on the server?
[18:16] <lickalott> ducasse, yes sir.   Nothing helpful.  THe odd part is 2 of the other NFS mounts work fine.  The difference is the other 2 are ZFS pools and the one I'm having problems with is my "Downloads" folder from my profile.  Regardless, when I tail the messages file there are no "issues" noted when I run the mount command from the client.
[18:17] <ducasse> lickalott: if you get access denied, there should be log entries. try syslog, kern.log or auth.log
[18:19] <lickalott> ducasse, from auth.log - Jul 16 11:19:03 Sager sudo: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[18:19] <lickalott> Jul 16 11:19:04 Sager sudo: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root
[18:20] <lickalott> when i google that majority of the threads just tell me to shut it off because it's an annoyance message.
[18:20] <lickalott> just FYI; it works via windows, fedora, debian (raspberry pi) and android.  But for some reason Ubuntu is giving me the finger for that 1 path.
[18:21] <ary> hi
[18:21] <ducasse> lickalott: on my server mountd logs to syslog, try tailing that and mounting.
[18:21] <ary> is ubuntu hackersafe
[18:22] <lickalott> because I have to run the mount command as sudo (root), I'm thinking it's something having to do with root access to that particular folder?  I did chown it.
[18:22] <lickalott> ary, nothing is hacker safe
[18:22] <pickashoe> ary r u hacker?
[18:22] <lickalott> you have to lock everything down to get the most security
[18:22] <lickalott> ducasse, nothing in syslog when I run the mount
[18:22] <Chan_ryihne> lock everything down?
[18:23] <ducasse> lickalott: but you get access denied?
[18:23] <lickalott> from the router and firewall level Chan_ryihne
[18:23]  * pickashoe agree w/ lickalott 
[18:23] <lickalott> yeah...it's weird
[18:23] <Chan_ryihne> oh :)
[18:23] <lickalott> gott run ducasse  thanks for your time.  Maybe I can hit you up later?
[18:23] <akik> lickalott: how did you export the nfs share from the server?
[18:23] <ducasse> lickalott: try, but it's getting late here
[18:24] <jost_> Hi! I have a (seemingly failing?) disk here, with a single ext4 file system on it. When running e2fsck on it, I get this error message: e2fsck: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sdc1. Any idea how to recover the disk? I'd like to copy some data from it... it wouldn't be a big problem if it does not work, since I have backups
[18:25] <pickashoe> jost_ so, you dont have a problem...
[18:26] <StrivE^> I'm looking to change the hostname to Ubuntu MATE
[18:27] <Bashing-om> jost_: Spare off the superblock: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177756 ... and try again ?
[18:27] <jost_> pickashoe: Correct, but it would be much faster to copy the data locally (integrity check can be done) than to download it from the backups
[18:27] <jost_> Here's some dmesg output: http://dpaste.com/2Y9D24Y
[18:27] <tatertots> Hello gentlemen i was reading this http://askubuntu.com/questions/140910/unity-greeter-background-not-changing-for-users-automatically-after-upgrade/317527#317527
[18:28] <tatertots> ubuntu-tweak is not available anymore....will unity-tweak allow me to change the lightdm background image
[18:28] <tatertots> ?
[18:28] <tatertots> similar in functionality to the previously existing 'ubuntu-tweak'
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> tatertots  i have ubuntu-tweak for xenial, it works, ok
[18:29] <pickashoe> jost_, im up to... its looking like more a hardware problem - seems more controler related
[18:30] <jost_> Bashing-om: ok, e2fsck seems to work with a different superblock...
[18:30] <pickashoe> jost_ had tried to mount that on another SATA interface/another PC?
[18:31] <jost_> pickashoe: yes, I'm currently having it in another machine
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> tatertots   https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu-tweak_0.8.7-1~getdeb2~xenial_all.deb
[18:31] <jost_> the original one wouldn't boot anymore
[18:32] <Bashing-om> jost_: :) .. all is now well ?
[18:32] <pickashoe> jost_ ok, - but that does not eliminate the possibility of faulty hard disk itself... and another possibility is logical problems
[18:33] <jost_> Bashing-om: don't know yet, e2fsck is still running, no output until now
[18:33] <akik> !info unity-tweak-tool
[18:33] <Bashing-om> jost_: Good boy . I have had great results in similar situations .
[18:34] <jost_> pickashoe: I was just in the progress of moving the stuff from the old machine to a new one, and make the old machine obsolete afterwards... perfect timing for a disk failure :-)
[18:36] <pickashoe> jost_ thats bad! this is why I hate hard disks! did you change anything during that process? ie: you may have attached new block devices to make the transfer
[18:36] <Kirito> Is there a way to close windows from the workspace overview screen?
[18:36] <jost_> pickashoe: nope, no changes (except for installing an additional package on the old machine and rebooting it)
[18:38] <pickashoe> jost_ anyway, IMHO it gonna require hard forensic efforts to recover data from there (expect lots of bit sweeping, DDs, hexdumps) - and I would revise that "additional package" procedure with detailed analysis
[18:39] <deep_> hi ppl sorry for posting here but is anyone aware of HAdoop Xchat channel ?
[18:39] <jatt> #hadoop
[18:39] <jost_> deep: #hadoop
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> deep_  type   /msg alis list hadoop
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> tatertots  keep it in the channel ... you can use gdebi to install .deb files
[18:41] <deep_> list hadoop
[18:42] <deep_> jost_,  i dont think it exist
[18:42] <pickashoe> jost_ ext4 may have some journaling facilities that may help recovering (I dont use it) - I believe there are tools out there
[18:42] <jost_> deep_: type '/j #hadoop'
[18:42] <tatertots> any other way to modify login back ground image besides ubuntu tweak?
[18:43] <tortib> how can I get glspheres on ubuntu/
[18:44] <tgm4883> MonkeyDust: you can use the Ubuntu Software to install debs too
[18:44] <tgm4883> which is installed in 16.04 by default
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> tgm4883  tell it to tatertots
[18:45] <tgm4883> tatertots: you can use the Ubuntu Software to install debs too
[18:46] <tatertots> dependency is not satisfiable when attempting to install 'ubuntu tweak"
[18:46] <Bashing-om> tatertots: A grest tutorial for the grub boot image embedded : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaintenanceFreeCustomGrub2Screen . I have used it , works great .
[18:46] <tatertots> i'd like to change the background image of the lightdm log in screen
[18:47] <pickashoe> Bashing-om, cool! thats a recurring issue everywhere
[18:47] <tgm4883> tatertots: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Changing_the_Wallpaper
[18:48] <tatertots> I can't cherry pick which of the 100+ ldap users appear in lightdm so i have to remove ANY user from appearing via hideusers in lightdm.conf...i need to put a custom image up that will show the default account name they will use to log in
[18:49] <jost_> pickashoe: Bashing-om: Thanks for the help, data is accessible again. I'll see about it's integrity later :-)
[18:49] <pickashoe> jost_ glad you did it!
[18:50] <tatertots> thanks tgm i'll give this a try
[18:50] <Bashing-om> jost_: We do good work, :)
[18:52] <Bashing-om> tatertots: Editing /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf is what I have done >> background=/usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.png
[18:52] <Bashing-om> to an image of my choice placed in the same folder:
[18:52] <goddard> will a jailkit prevent something on the inside from accessing mysql db?
[18:53] <tatertots> Ah that sounds pretty quick and easy also
[18:53] <tortib> can someone help me figure out why glxgears wont run? http://paste.debian.net/782077/
[18:53] <tatertots> i'm going to whip up a custom image at 1920x1080 res real quick and try it
[18:59] <Alver> Hello. Is there a kernel parameter I can give to the installer to force text-mode install (so no attempt at loading a gui)?
[19:01] <BluesKaj> Alver,  you could install ubuntu-server then after installation use the VT/TTY to install the DE and proceed from there
[19:03] <tortib> can someone help me figure out why glxgears wont run? http://paste.debian.net/782077/
[19:03] <Alver> BluesKaj: that's the point, if I boot the ubuntu installer iso it stops after a while - no installer visible - so I have a hunch it tries to launch something graphical, and it's not showing (since I'm installing over serial)
[19:05] <BluesKaj> Alver,  seems you have corrupted live media, perhaps md5sum the image to make sure
[19:05] <Alver> BluesKaj: verified, the iso is okay.
[19:07] <ioria> Alver, you don't even get to the main menu ?
[19:07] <Bashing-om> Alver: A couple of thoughts ; boot the installer with either " nomodeset " .. or maybe with only "text" - in 14.04 .
[19:08] <Alver> ioria: correct
[19:08] <ioria> Alver,   ram and cpu ?
[19:08] <Alver> Bashing-om: ah, good point. Let's see.
[19:09] <Alver> ioria: Applied Micro X-Gene 1 ARM64.
[19:09] <ioria> Alver,  oh
[19:09] <rantman> soooo why does the software udate continue to ask me if I want to update this package that isn't installing because it's not signed?
[19:10] <Chan_ryihne> rantman, I'm having the same problem
[19:10] <rantman> :) is it also paraview?
[19:11] <BluesKaj> Alver,  Ubuntu 14.04 LTS arm64  ?
[19:11] <Alver> BluesKaj: 16.04
[19:12] <Chan_ryihne> rantman, nope
[19:12] <Chan_ryihne> it's something else in /lib
[19:14] <Guest32253> hello hqckers
[19:15] <tatertots> Bashing-om you think i could get the same effect by placing 'background=path/to/image' in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf' ?
[19:18] <ankit> hi
[19:18] <ankit> need help
[19:19] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 no sound issue
[19:19] <ouroumov> !ask | ankit
[19:20] <dli> ankit, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[19:20] <ankit> sound is not working on ubuntu 16.04,, please help to rezsolve this
[19:21] <Chan_ryihne> I can't find wlan0 when ifconfig only wlp19s0
[19:21] <Chan_ryihne> Any idea?
[19:21] <ankit> i tried them
[19:21] <Alver> Chan_ryihne: and is that a problem?
[19:22] <ankit> but nothing is working out
[19:22] <OerHeks> that would be the new Predictable Interface Naming thing in 16.04
[19:22] <OerHeks> so use wlp19s0
[19:23] <Chan_ryihne> Alver, well,the wifi keeps automatically disconnect every few minutes
[19:23] <curlyears> EriC^^?
[19:23] <Alver> Okay, *that* is a problem. Not the device name. :)
[19:23] <Alver> Chan_ryihne: anything in the logs?
[19:23] <Chan_ryihne> I'm a newbie :D SO like what logs :D
[19:24] <Alver> /var/log/syslog, for a starter
[19:24] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 sound not working from speakers
[19:24] <curlyears> We have Joy in the house!   I finally got 14.04.4 to install and properly boot up!   All Hail EriC^^!!!!!
[19:24] <curlyears> ankit:  are you speakers bluetooth?
[19:24] <ankit> no laptop built-in speakers
[19:25] <ankit> but headphone sound is working fine
[19:25] <curlyears> OK, just checking.  There seems to be a lot of people with trouble with bluetooth under 16.04, so I thought I'd ask.  Wish I could help further
[19:26] <ankit> no problem
[19:26] <curlyears> ankit:  *huh*?   That's odd.
[19:26] <ankit> yes really odd
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> ankit  open a terminal and type   alsamixer ... if you see MM, go there and hit m to unmute
[19:26] <curlyears> k1l_, nacc, are you guys alive in here?
[19:26] <ankit> ok
[19:27] <tortib> How can I have ubuntu use the nvidia binary drivers?  X is using the nouveau driver still
[19:27] <ankit> i did it
[19:27] <ankit> but still sound not working
[19:27] <curlyears> MonkeyDust!!!   My system is finaly working.  All I had to do was disconnect my 2 3TB drives, and reset the BIOS for "automatic" EFI selection
[19:28] <curlyears> so now I'm wondering if I sould try to boot off the USB thumn and install 16.04, since everything else seems to be working now
[19:29] <curlyears> dang, it was plugginf in the 3TB drives, and switching tthe BIOS to EFI that seems to have screwed everything up
[19:30] <BluesKaj> tortib,  which nvidia gpu? or is your graphics system a hybrid nvidia and intel?
[19:30] <curlyears> MonkeyDust?
[19:31] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 no sound from build-in speakers
[19:32] <curlyears> hey, MonkeyDust:  I've been wondering, are you coarsely ground, or finely ground?
[19:33] <ioria> ankit,  system settings -> sound -> output   have you seen in there ?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> tortib,  which nvidia gpu? or is your graphics system a hybrid nvidia and intel aka Optimus
[19:34] <ankit> yes
[19:34] <curlyears> ankit:  look ini you system's audio control panel, determine if there is separate control of internal and external speakers, and confirm if so that internal speakers are, in fact, enabled.
[19:34] <tortib> BluesKaj, no it's just a GTX 970, I figured it out it was using the default nvidia driver, now it's using the binary driver.
[19:34] <ioria> ankit,  uname -r
[19:34] <curlyears> ioria and I thought of the same thing   :p
[19:35] <ankit> ioria 4.4.0-31-generic
[19:35] <tortib> BluesKaj, how can I get glxspheres installed on ubuntu?
[19:35] <ioria> ankit,  aplay -l
[19:36] <curlyears> tortib: do a Google seqarch ono ubuntu + glxspheres
[19:36] <ankit> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[19:36] <ankit> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: 92HD71B7X Analog [92HD71B7X Analog]
[19:36] <ankit>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:36] <ankit>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:36] <ankit> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: 92HD71B7X Digital [92HD71B7X Digital]
[19:36] <ankit>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:36] <BluesKaj> spheres? I've heardn of glxgears tho, tortib
[19:36] <ioria> ankit,  don't paste in here, use paste.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <tortib> curlyears, I did doesn't really say how to
[19:37] <ankit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19667593/
[19:37] <ioria> ankit,  select Analog in system settings -> sound
[19:37] <curlyears> tortib:  what is glxspheres?
[19:37] <curlyears> it may not be available for linux
[19:37] <lluia> leave #ubuntu
[19:38] <ankit> no analog in system >> sound
[19:38] <curlyears> lluia:   try /part
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> lluia  type   /part
[19:38] <lluia> thanks :)
[19:38] <curlyears> MonkeyDust:  did you see my posts?
[19:38] <lluia> I'm a noobie with IRC just trying
[19:38] <tortib> curlyears, it's like glxgears but more modern
[19:39] <curlyears> lluia:  we all were beginners at some point :p
[19:39] <BluesKaj> tortib,  https://askubuntu.com/questions/344216/glxspheres-not-found-how-to-install/344221
[19:39] <curlyears> tortib:  OK.  The what is glxgears?
[19:39] <ankit> ioria under output tab there are two options
[19:39] <ankit> Digital Output (Built-in Audio)
[19:39] <ioria> ankit,  Analog and Digital ...
[19:40] <ioria> ankit,  no Analog ?
[19:40] <tortib> BluesKaj, it says that the bumblebee ppa doesn't have a release file
[19:40] <ankit> no
[19:41] <ioria> ankit,  which is the other  one  ?
[19:41] <tortib> Err:17 http://ppa.launchpad.net/bumblebee/stable/ubuntu xenial Release 404 not found
[19:41] <ankit> there is Digital Output
[19:41] <apaternoster> Hallo :) I've a problem with some services on boot. This services plymouth-read-write.service and this one apparmor.service take much time on boot. Anyone had this problem ? Anyone can help me ?
[19:41] <curlyears> tortib:  then unless you can loacate at somewhere like sourceforge, you're SOL
[19:41] <ankit> second one is Speakers - Build-in Audio
[19:41] <ankit> under output tab
[19:42] <ioria> ankit,  have you tried that ?
[19:42] <ankit> yes
[19:42] <ankit> but no sound
[19:42] <ioria> ankit,  sudo lshw -c Multimedia
[19:42] <apaternoster> Ah I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.
[19:42] <curlyears> ioria:  is it possible the audio amplifier that feeds the speakers in his laptop released it's magick smoke?
[19:43] <ioria> curlyears, i don't know :)
[19:43] <ankit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19668423/
[19:43] <BluesKaj> tortib,  for glxgears install mesa-utils
[19:44] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, i think he needs to remove that dead ppa first
[19:45] <curlyears> OerHeks: hi!   Eric^^ got my system working and booting off the HDD correctly....*YAY*
[19:45] <Bashing-om> tatertots: Got caught up elsewhere " same effect by placing " Think you said you are running 16.04 ( systemd) .. all I can say is try and see if systemd is co-operative, as this methology is in upstart .
[19:46] <ankit> ioria did you find something??
[19:46] <OerHeks> curlyears, let it run 24 hrs
[19:46] <curlyears> o disconect m,y 2 3TB drives, reset bios not to default to EFI mode, and reibnstall.  So now I have a 240GB SSD, and two useless 3 TB drives.  OPh, well, one can't have everything one wants
[19:46] <apaternoster> Anyone can help me ?
[19:47] <ioria> ankit,  not really,    ps -A | grep pulse    what it says ?
[19:47] <curlyears> apaternoster: generally speaking, if someone knows or has an idea how to help you, they'll speak up.  It isn't necessary to keep repeating your query ever few minutes.  :p
[19:47] <BluesKaj> tortib,  if you don't have hybrid graphics then you don't need bumblebee
[19:47] <ankit> 3436 ?        00:00:07 pulseaudio
[19:48] <ankit> that's the output
[19:48] <curlyears> (I used to make the same mistake, apaternoster
[19:48] <apaternoster> curlyears: ok :) sorry
[19:49] <curlyears> apaternoster: in fact, when I am highly stressed and frustrated, I still make the same mistake :p (to be completely honest about it)
[19:49] <ankit> ioria any luck??
[19:50] <curlyears> OerHeks:   thanks.  I shall.
[19:50] <apaternoster> curlyears: ok :) It's not a problem :)
[19:50] <ioria> ankit,  nope... try to install pavucontrol  and tweak around it
[19:50] <curlyears> (I'm just anxious to get things up and running so I can start to mess around with my 3D printer
[19:50] <curlyears> )
[19:50] <ankit> i did install and tried it as well
[19:51] <ioria> ankit,  f
[19:52] <ioria> ankit,  can you paste   dmesg | grep audio ?
[19:52] <curlyears> OerHeks: do you thinkk possibly I might be able to use the 3TB HDDs with a USB<->HDD adaptor?  I  have one, already.
[19:53] <curlyears> Eric^^
[19:53] <curlyears> he isn't even on )-:
[19:53] <ankit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19669740/
[19:54] <curlyears> oh, well.  I am going to go try to install the 3D slicer/printer control package and see if it will compile now. (wait a minute, no point in that, I'm still running 14.04.4, it won't compile )-: )
[19:55] <curlyears> ioria:  am I misreading that, or dfoes it imply that the speakers are not connected/functional?
[19:55] <ioria> curlyears, maybe, yes
[19:56] <curlyears> very odd
[19:56] <ioria> ankit,  do you have another kernel  in your system ?
[19:56] <ankit> i don't know :(
[19:56] <ankit> how can i check??
[19:57] <ioria> ankit,  ls /boot
[19:58] <ankit> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/19670317/
[19:58] <ioria> ankit,  what a mess
[19:58] <ankit> what happened??
[19:59] <ioria> ankit, btw, it's not the complete output ...
[20:00] <ioria> ankit, yes, it is sorry
[20:00] <ankit> ioria ok no prob, what should I do??
[20:01] <ioria> ankit,  well, you have at least 25 kernels ... to try ... it was working before ... with others kernel , i mean ?
[20:02] <ankit> sound was working earlier, but i don't know with which kernel
[20:02] <ankit> i just upgraded, now sound is not working
[20:02] <ankit> wioria what should I do to fix this??
[20:02] <ioria> ankit,  at boot, press shift -> Advanced Options and try 4.4.0-30-generic
[20:03] <ioria> ankit,  you upgrade from what version of ubuntu ?
[20:03] <ankit> 15.10
[20:04] <ankit> should I reboot now??
[20:04] <ioria> ankit, nope
[20:04] <BluesKaj> ankit,  sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , if no error/output then the driver loaded ok
[20:04] <ioria> ankit,  no 4.2 kernel
[20:05] <ankit> no output of that command
[20:05] <ioria> ankit,  you have an utopic kernel  vmlinuz-3.16.0-33-generic and a trusy one vmlinuz-3.13.0-38-generic
[20:06] <BluesKaj> ankit,  then the driver loaded without error
[20:06] <ankit> okay, what should I do now to fix??
[20:07] <BluesKaj> ankit in alsamixer , make sure your automute is disabled
[20:07] <curlyears> what command do I use that displays the CPU workload and temperature?
[20:08] <jatt> lm-sensors
[20:08] <ankit> BluesKaj automute is disabled
[20:08] <jatt> for temperature
[20:08] <ioria> ankit,  boot one of the above kernels,   ( maybe a fresh install of 16.04 or 14.04 could help, just saying )
[20:09] <curlyears> lm-sensors?  I am about to run cpu-burn on my 8 core AMD, I want to monitor the temps carefully
[20:09] <ankit> installing fresh 16.04 may lost my data??
[20:09] <curlyears> ankit"  backup your data
[20:09] <ioria> ankit,  yes, if you don't have backups
[20:09] <ankit> there must be something can be done for fixing the issue
[20:10] <curlyears> ankit:  reinstalling is what can be done (and *MAY* fix your issue)
[20:10] <ioria> ankit,  sure, keep asking someone will answer
[20:10] <OerHeks> if you don't have a backup,. your data is not important.
[20:10] <ankit> hmmmmmmmm
[20:10] <BluesKaj> ankit,  before you reinstall , tru onemore thing paste a screenshot of alsamixer in imgur please and paste the reulting url here , so we can have a look
[20:10] <ioria> ankit,  good luck , hope you solve it
[20:11] <BluesKaj> imgur.com thatis , ankit
[20:11] <gord0> ankit: good luck
[20:13] <ankit> BluesKaj http://imgur.com/QC4E5k4
[20:14] <curlyears> after apt-get install lm-sensors finished (reporting no errors)  I typed "sudo lm-sensors"  and got the following reply:  lm-sensors: command not found
[20:14] <ankit> thanks guys for your best wishes
[20:14] <Guest11357> who Guest11357
[20:16] <BluesKaj> ankit,  looks normal to me, so I have no other ideas :/
[20:16] <jatt> curlyears: http://askubuntu.com/questions/53762/how-to-use-lm-sensors
[20:16] <curlyears> Samsung is now delivering true 3D fabricated ICs.  Their newest product contains 38 LAYERS of FETs stacked o top of each other
[20:16] <curlyears> thanksm, jatt
[20:17] <zorakw> hi, i want to hibernate my pc but the option is not avalible
[20:17] <ankit> thanks @BluesKaj
[20:18] <ankit> is there anyone who could help to fix Ubuntu 16.04 no sound issue??
[20:18] <gbaker1> curlyears: type "sudo sensors-detect"
[20:20] <BluesKaj> ankit,  your headphone control is muted with volume turned off , so you know what to do enable your headphone output
[20:21] <OerHeks> ankit, and fiddle around with spdif 1 and 2
[20:22] <curlyears> I followed the advice of a web page and typed "sudo watch sensors"  and it threw my sensors watch into a bacvkground process.  How can I bringit back on-screen, and/or stop it?
[20:24] <OerHeks> run jobs to see a list and fg %1, fg %2, etc., to select which job to put back to the foreground
[20:25] <ankit> BluesKaj headphone output gets enabled as i connect my headphone to laptop
[20:25] <codepython777> how do i make checkinstall silent? (read from file)
[20:26] <agpirie> Hello. I had sophos antivirus for linux on my ubuntu mate partition, and when it was updating grub, sophos blocked it and now grub is gone.
[20:26] <agpirie> I've tried a lot
[20:26] <agpirie> Trying grub-install /dev/sda
[20:26] <agpirie> grub-update
[20:26] <agpirie> even in chroot
[20:26] <gbaker1> My favorite command that I found out about recently is "inxi -Fxr"
[20:27] <BluesKaj> ankit,  interesting, that's a new feature
[20:27] <bekks> agpirie: You tried a lot and what happened exactly? And which Ubuntu version do you have exactly?
[20:28] <ankit> but actually if I connect my headphone, it should start automatically
[20:28] <agpirie> Ubuntu MATE 16.04
[20:28] <agpirie> bekks Ubuntu MATE
[20:28] <curlyears> typing both "jobs" and sudo jobs generates no output.  Does that mean my process didn't go to the background?
[20:28] <bekks> agpirie: And which VERSION?
[20:28] <agpirie> 16.04
[20:28] <agpirie> grub 2
[20:29] <BluesKaj> only if your volume control is turned up, ankit
[20:29] <ankit> yes
[20:29] <Akuli> the same grub 2 is in all ubuntu's since 10.04 or something
[20:29] <agpirie> Sounds like grub is dead then...
[20:30] <agpirie> bekks: 16.04 lts
[20:30] <ankit> BluesKaj Test Speaker feature also not working
[20:30] <bekks> agpirie: And why cant you just reinstall grub?
[20:30] <agpirie> I tried boot-repair
[20:30] <agpirie> it always gave an error
[20:30] <gbaker1> On your sound also make sure the "Digital Output (S/PDIF)" isn't selected as the main output. I had that problem and took a few days to figure out that stupid little error.
[20:31] <bekks> agpirie: WHICH error?
[20:31] <curlyears> I have never trusted active anti-virus programs.  They seem to alwsy either slow your system down by a fair chunk, or do things like ewhat just happened to agpirie
[20:31] <agpirie> Yeah
[20:31] <agpirie> I don't know which error
[20:31] <agpirie> I'll do it again though
[20:31] <Akuli> bekks, his grub-repair report http://paste2.org/fKbUGs0P
[20:32] <agpirie> ^^^^^^^
[20:32] <agpirie> Yup
[20:32] <ankit> BluesKaj http://imgur.com/VZyNDwZ
[20:32] <agpirie> That's the only thing to do with an "error"
[20:32] <curlyears> OK, anybody here who has actually used cpu-burn?
[20:32] <agpirie> It doesnt say error code or something
[20:32] <bekks> agpirie: We cant help you without an exact error message.
[20:32] <Akuli> bekks, is the grub repair report not an exact error message? what is then?
[20:32] <bekks> Akuli: No.
[20:33] <Akuli> in that case we'll chroot and show you what exactly we're getting
[20:33] <Akuli> agpirie, follow the instructions in the grub repair link again just to give bekks some "actual errors"
[20:33] <agpirie> Akuli gimme that chroot link for reinstalling grub 2 again
[20:33] <Akuli> yep
[20:33] <bekks> Akuli: Thats what we need, since our glass orbs are out of service during the weekend :)
[20:33] <Akuli> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[20:33] <bekks> !grub2
[20:34] <ankit> gbaker1 "Digital Output (S/PDIF)" is default selected, what should I do now??
[20:34] <bekks> agpirie: Better use the links from ubottu instead.
[20:34] <agpirie> Okay
[20:35] <Akuli> the restore link doesn't seem much different
[20:35] <agpirie> bekks, ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[20:35] <agpirie> Installing for i386-pc platform.
[20:35] <agpirie> grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[20:35] <gbaker1> Select "speakers Built-in Audio" as default
[20:35] <bekks> agpirie: that happens when doing what exactly. As I said, our glass orbs are out of service currently.
[20:35] <Akuli> agpirie, you probably didn't mount things
[20:35] <Akuli> there's a link on the repair page that points to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal
[20:35] <Akuli> try that
[20:36] <ankit> gbaker1 how to select that option as default
[20:36] <ankit> ??
[20:36] <gbaker1> ankit http://askubuntu.com/questions/772563/16-04-switches-from-default-audio-device-when-not-available-but-doesnt-switch
[20:37] <curlyears> OK, anybody here who has actually used cpu-burn?
[20:38] <bekks> curlyears: I bet people did, but what is your specific question? :)
[20:38] <curlyears> bekks:  I want to use it to tyest this 8 core system, but I need to know exactly how to stop it if my CPU temps starts running too high
[20:39] <gbaker1> ankit This link might be easier    http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/sound-switcher-app-ubuntu
[20:39] <Vapez> Hello, why when i run a su user -c command from ssh the port from application that i start will open and when i run it from rc.local or /etc/init.d/myservice the port doesn't open !?!?!
[20:39] <bekks> curlyears: what do you actually expect as test result from cpu-burn, besides raising temperatures?
[20:40] <curlyears> bekks:  I want to see how hot the CPU will get when under heavy load.  Right now, my temmps are averaging about 70C
[20:40] <ankit> i did but still no sound
[20:40] <bekks> curlyears: Temperatures will rise untile the emergency shutdown temperature is reached.
[20:41] <gbaker1> I don't remember exact steps, I switched to Mint 18 because it actually recognized my Intel raid controller so no longer had to do the complicated "mdadm" stuff
[20:41] <curlyears> bekks:  I need to determine if I need a better heatsink.  The one that's on there is essentially a block of extruded aluminum with a fan mounted on top of it, I have no idea how effective it is
[20:42] <bekks> curlyears: As long as your computer doesnt shutdown regularly currently, your heatsink is fine.
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> gbaker1  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[20:42] <bekks> agpirie: No need for a query. Keep it in here please.
[20:42] <curlyears> bekks
[20:42] <agpirie> Okay
[20:42] <agpirie> So what do I need to mount?
[20:42] <curlyears> bekks:  what about under heavy 3D rendering mode?
[20:43] <gbaker1> Linux Mint 18 Sarah
[20:43] <bekks> agpirie: Thats explained in detail, in the article given.
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> gbaker1  mint is not supported in this channel
[20:43] <bekks> curlyears: Run the software you want to use and see if you have temperature issues. If you dont, no need for further concerns.
[20:43] <Akuli> gbaker1, i'll come to #linuxmint-help on spotchat, see you there
[20:44] <curlyears> bekks:  OK...I wasn't sure if that would be safe
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> gbaker1  or didnt you have an issue, if so: apologies
[20:44] <Akuli> gbaker1, i guess you know how to get there since you've gotten to freenode?
[20:44] <agpirie> bekks, root@ubuntu-mate:/# grub-install /dev/sda
[20:44] <agpirie> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[20:44] <agpirie> grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[20:44] <gbaker1> Yes, but I still use ubuntu on my desktop. Mint is on my laptop with the raid controller. :) And that doesn't mean I cant help with Ubuntu issues.
[20:45] <curlyears> I've never had a system shutdown on me for excess temps, don't know how reliable that service is
[20:45] <agpirie> Where is the EFI directory?
[20:45] <Akuli> gbaker1, oh i thought you needed help :)
[20:45] <bekks> agpirie: you didnt mount /boot/efi
[20:45] <Akuli> i don't use ubuntu either :D
[20:45] <curlyears> let's all kill Akuli!!!!!!!!!   :p
[20:46] <gbaker1> nope. system works great. just was complicated with ubuntu with a laptop with raid....
[20:46] <agpirie> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo mount /boot/efi
[20:46] <agpirie> mount: can't find /boot/efi in /etc/fstab
[20:46] <agpirie> bekks, what is this?
[20:46] <curlyears> how does your laptop jhave a raid array?  How much does that thing weigh?
[20:47] <gbaker1> Now all I need is for Nvidia to support SLI for mobile cards
[20:47] <gbaker1> here is mt system. https://pastebin.com/NBwLqrLk
[20:47] <curlyears> I had an early "laptop" running Winblows 3.  It weighed about 20 pounds, and was quite large, really
[20:49] <agpirie> Winblows
[20:49] <agpirie> xd
[20:50] <curlyears> \I do miss using SolidWorks, though.
[20:51] <SharkWuff> am i in the right place for lubuntu?
[20:52] <ankit> can I check speaker hardware working or not??
[20:52] <curlyears> ankit:  at this point, I'd recommend having a qualified technician check your laptop sound system
[20:53] <ankit> okay
[20:53] <curlyears> I know, that's anathema, but d00d, your system is REALLY screwed up
[20:53] <curlyears> on the other hand, if any of our mucvh more experienced users disagree with me, by all means, go with their advice
[20:54] <SharkWuff> !lubuntu
[20:54] <BluesKaj> ankit or you could try without pulseaudio , intel audio driver doesn't need pulseaudio to work , all mu=y intel audio equipped pcs run fine on linux without pulse...it's worth looking into
[20:54] <\9> SharkWuff: you can ask ubuntu questions in here, though if you have issues with the lxde desktop you're better off with a dedicated channel
[20:55] <ankit> BluesKaj should I remove pulseaudio??
[20:56] <SharkWuff> Hey guys i been trying to get my headphone to work and webcam as well but no joy not sure if its my laptop or lubutu
[20:57] <BluesKaj> ankit,  most users would not recommend removing/purging pulseaudio. I'm just mentioning it if you are interested in researching this option futher.
[20:57] <BluesKaj> further
[20:57] <ankit> sure thanks
[20:58] <curlyears> *ack*  how does modern linux restore character echo in term?  It is accepting my commmands, but not echoing them to the screen  *ACK*
[21:00] <curlyears> \never mind, IO got it   "stty sane"
[21:02] <jatt> sometimes the reset command helps in those cases too
[21:03] <SharkWuff> Hey guys i been trying to get my headphone to work and webcam as well but no joy not sure if its my laptop or lubutu
[21:03] <curlyears> jatt:  you mean the reset button?  :p
[21:04] <curlyears> SharkWell:   did you headphones work under whatever you had on the laptop previously?
[21:04] <curlyears> SHarkWuff, I mean
[21:04] <SharkWuff> oh and my Wifi printer will not work with 16.04 and yes to a point curlyears
[21:05] <specialedge> is this inappropriate channel to seek help regarding ssh key authentication?
[21:06] <jatt> no reset command
[21:06] <jatt> man reset
[21:06] <jatt> sometimes if the terminal is unresponsive or garbled, reset fixes it
[21:07] <tatertots> well i got my lightdm background image changed to a static image....and that's a good thing :)
[21:07] <bekks> jatt: Which shell do you use?
[21:07] <SharkWuff> curlyears, would i need Cups for my wifi printer to print over wifi
[21:07] <jatt> bash
[21:10] <curlyears> I believe (someone correct me if I am mistaken, please) that Cups is required for printing, regardless of the physcial link type
[21:11] <SharkWuff> thanks
[21:11] <SharkWuff> that clears one problem up
[21:13] <specialedge> i started with ssh-keygen on my remote machine, and ive configured putty clients on two windows machines to connect using putty .ppk key, as well as an ssh app on my tablet by exporting the putty key to openssh. now I am running an ubuntu virtual machine on my desktop and am unable to complete the handshake using the previous key files
[21:14] <specialedge> have i got the right idea by using the previous key on the new system? or am i supposed to create a new key and add that to my authorized_keys on my remote machine?
[21:15] <jatt> have you tried with ssh -i to explicitly specify the location of your key?
[21:15] <specialedge> on the local machine? ill try that
[21:15] <curlyears> specialedge: it wouldhelp if you identified the VERSION of ubuntu you are runninf viertually
[21:15] <jatt> yes on the client
[21:15] <jatt> and also -v
[21:15] <jatt> for verbose output
[21:16] <user_221> hello
[21:16] <specialedge> remote (virtual machine) is 14.04-desktop, and remote is 14.04-server
[21:16] <Sandy> hello all :)
[21:16] <curlyears> user_221
[21:17] <curlyears> hey, Sandy
[21:17] <curlyears> sandy, is your sand dry and itchy, or damp and clingy?  :p
[21:18] <Sandy> why u ask ?:)
[21:18] <tatertots> Hi sandy
[21:19] <Sandy> hey :)
[21:19] <curlyears> Sandy:  because I am a  natural born smart aleck!  :p
[21:20] <Sandy> i am not so smart ... i think so :)
[21:20] <PrincessBob> you mean a pain in the rear end?
[21:20] <PrincessBob> >:)
[21:20] <curlyears> earlier I asked MonkeyDust if he was coarse ground of fine ground, but he never responded, so the mystery remains, as it were
[21:21] <curlyears> PrincessBob: yes, mine and everyone else's.
[21:21] <curlyears> s/of/or/
[21:21] <SemiNus> hi
[21:21] <Sandy> hey
[21:22] <tatertots> hey there SemiNux
[21:22] <curlyears> I've been sitting on this hardwood kitchen chair for 8 hours today, and my rear end is in pain
[21:22] <SemiNus> :)
[21:22] <SemiNus> I hoped to find a little support here
[21:22] <Sandy> yes we are all here ..:)
[21:22] <tatertots> what ubuntu problem are you having SemiNus?
[21:22] <specialedge> heres my verbose output: http://pastebin.com/X7EEM5Uu
[21:22] <curlyears> Sandy: may one deduce from your presence in this channel that you are an ubuntu user?
[21:23] <Sandy> yes i am
[21:23] <SemiNus> Usually in the past, whenever I installed any flavor of either Debian or Ubuntu, my (even old) Computers showed a very well performance.  However, this time, my laptop really bothers me.
[21:23] <Sandy> curlyears: why u ask ?
[21:23] <SemiNus> When I scroll down websites in google chrome, they don't scroll smoothly, they "jump"
[21:24] <curlyears> *AHA*  *THAT* is why I found something called "mind reader" in my ps -alx output!!!!    :p
[21:24] <SemiNus> videos (even when they have downloaded) stop in order to continue and stop again
[21:24] <curlyears> Sandy:  I am an impetuoous and curious individual
[21:24] <SemiNus> it seems as if my laptop would have a 200 MHZ processor
[21:24] <curlyears> s/oo/o/
[21:24] <SemiNus> I guess there is some kind of a driver problem
[21:24] <Sandy> great me too :)
[21:25] <SemiNus> and I hoped somebody here could guide me through the "find out what it is and fix it - process"
[21:25] <tatertots> SemiNus what version of ubuntu?
[21:25] <SemiNus> 16.04
[21:25] <curlyears> Sandy:  I am also officially an Olde Phart, so watch out for me!
[21:25] <Sandy> how old are u ?
[21:25] <SemiNus> 34
[21:25] <Sandy> :)
[21:26] <tatertots> SemiNus what does your performance look like in system monitor?....cmd "gnome-system-monitor"
[21:26] <Sandy> curlyears: how old are u ?
[21:26] <tatertots> go to the resources tab SemiNus, what % CPU?...what % memory?
[21:27] <curlyears> Sandy:  I turn 63 in 12 days
[21:27] <Sandy> omg ....u have experience of life .
[21:27] <curlyears> tatertots:  which "resources" page are you referring to?
[21:27] <Sandy> i want to speak with u private
[21:27] <SemiNus> tatertots, I am just installing it
[21:27] <curlyears> Sandy:  care to enter a debate on whether that is desireable or not?  *grin*
[21:27] <SemiNus> 1 moment pls, I will tell you the output in a moment
[21:28] <Sandy> i don`t know to do it
[21:28] <tatertots> SemiNus so you are still in the process of installing Ubuntu and you're already coming to the conclusion that it's not performing well?
[21:28] <specialedge> clearly not enough experience of life
[21:29] <SemiNus> tatertots, no, I am using ubuntu 16.04 since 2 months, but gnome is not my primary working environment. I am on trinity.
[21:29] <SemiNus> tatertots, however, I tried to avoid mentioning trinity desktop, because I feared people could blame trinity for this.  But I am sure trinity is not the problem
[21:29] <even> Hey guys. I just installed BackBox
[21:29] <even> Any of you ever used it?
[21:30] <bekks> !backbox | even
[21:30] <SemiNus> tatertots, gnome-system-monitor is not running, and it seems to be exactly the same output as "top" in the command line.
[21:30] <SemiNus> tatertots, no program shows a high CPU / memory usage
[21:35] <specialedge> is there a more appropriate channel to discuss the theory of key configuration? i cant see how it would be much different between distros other than file paths
[21:36] <curlyears> is there a # or ##encryption?
[21:36] <jatt> you got:
[21:36] <jatt> Warning: Identity file /home/steve/.ssf/id_rsa not accessible: No such file or directory.
[21:36] <jatt> right?
[21:37] <specialedge> it must be chmod wrong
[21:37] <tortib> I'm having a problem with lightdm whenever i boot up i have to switch to a tty then back to lightdm in order to type my password in, it does it with the open source video driver as well as the nvidia video driver.
[21:37] <specialedge> ah shit
[21:37] <jatt> adjust the permissions then should work if the key is the right one
[21:39] <specialedge> chmod 770 for an id_rsa?
[21:39] <bekks> 0600 for that file.
[21:39] <jatt> indeed
[21:39] <bekks> No exectution permission needed.
[21:39] <jatt> it's a private key remember
[21:41] <specialedge> http://pastebin.com/bSzh5Hf7
[21:42] <specialedge> it reports: debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 279
[21:43] <specialedge> i even reenabled password auth and went to run ssh-copy-id using the password and it reports a failure with the key
[21:44] <specialedge> i suppose i could create a new key from scratch and port it to each system im trying to authenticate right off the bat
[21:44] <jatt> does this help: https://chrisjean.com/ubuntu-ssh-fix-for-agent-admitted-failure-to-sign-using-the-key/
[21:44] <jatt> you are getting Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.
[21:45] <specialedge> i generated this key weeks ago and im not particularly sharp regarding the entire process int he first place
[21:45] <jatt> i.e. SSH_AUTH_SOCK=0 ssh ....
[21:45] <PrintTheSource> How do I edit my defaults.list file? I can't save because I don't have permission
[21:46] <bekks> PrintTheSource: what do you want to edit in there?
[21:46] <PrintTheSource> I need to edit my file manager. Firefox keeps using the wrong one.
[21:46] <PrintTheSource> I tried using sudo mousepad ~/usr/share/applications/defaults.list in the terminal but the file come up empty
[21:46] <bekks> PrintTheSource: Then why do you need to edit your default list file?
[21:46] <specialedge> fking gnome keyring
[21:47] <jatt> 😈
[21:47] <specialedge> thanks jatt
[21:47] <jatt> those keyrings are useless I removed them from my system
[21:47] <PrintTheSource> because a line of code is wrong in the list
[21:47] <bekks> PrintTheSource: Can you be more specific?
[21:47] <specialedge> yeah my first 2hrs with ubuntu desktop is not convincing me to trash windows 10....
[21:48] <specialedge> thanks for your help
[21:48] <PrintTheSource> inode/directory=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop
[21:48] <jatt> you are welcome
[21:48] <PrintTheSource> This line is wrong
[21:48] <PrintTheSource> How do I get permission to edit the file?
[21:48] <tatertots> specialedge were you expecting it to?
[21:48] <bekks> PrintTheSource: sudo nano yourfilename
[21:48] <specialedge> haha
[21:49] <tatertots> my phillips screw driver hasn't convinced me to trash my flat head screw driver
[21:49] <specialedge> i always wondered whether i should install linux and then run windows in a VM
[21:49] <specialedge> but i think the opposite will do just fine
[21:49] <PrintTheSource> It's still empty.
[21:49] <specialedge> everytime i use a linux GUI it just makes command line that much easier, relatively
[21:54] <curlyears> specialedge: I know what you mean.   I am heavily into CLI
[21:56] <xubuntu> helo
[22:02] <curlyears> xubuntu:   don't just say "help,"  ask a specific question about the use of ubuntu
[22:17] <gbaker1> I believe that was a "hello" missing a "L"
[22:18] <bekks> Ora mistyped EHLO
[22:18] <curlyears> maybe he thought he was typing t a mail handler :p
[22:19] <curlyears> sorry, my eyes are strained after 8+ hours at this KB
[22:19] <curlyears> and it is now time for me to go prepare my supper
[22:19] <\9> or he mistyped 'hell'
[22:20] <\9> maybe he was trying to preach us
[22:20] <gbaker1> You should see the mis-types and mis-pronunciation of my mom's last name. Polhemus
[22:20] <bekks> or some mistyped "help" :)
[22:20] <gry> gbaker1: I guess mis-spelling is harder than mis-pronouncing
[22:20] <gbaker1> And the street we live on Via Ondulando
[22:21] <gbaker1> I love getting the random sales calls for her, it is so fun to mess witth them.
[22:23] <gbaker1> The funniest is when my name gets messed up.... How can you mess up "Gary Baker" but it happens quite often.
[22:24] <curlyears> gbaker1: keep in mind that a great many of those "random slaes calls" are bieng made by operators in other countries, for whome English is not their native tongue.  Tjhey are alkso working at a shitty job that is all they could find in their local economies
[22:25] <curlyears> it really is unkind to mock them.  I just cut them off and tell them no, firmly, and then hangup on them
[22:26] <gbaker1> This is even in person. I've been called Greg, Jerry, Gray and several others.
[22:26] <ubuntu439> Can i run Ubuntu on a pentium 4 ?
[22:26] <bekks> ubuntu439: Yes.
[22:26] <ubuntu439> Any slowdown ?  it is 64 bit 3.4 Ghz
[22:27] <bekks> ubuntu439: A Pentium 4 is horribly old.
[22:27] <Bashing-om> ubuntu439: The "slow down" would ne ram related .. need 2+ Gigs for a good experience .
[22:27] <curlyears> I think bekks has been running ubuntu since P90s   :p
[22:28] <curlyears> (of course, that would eb impossible)
[22:28] <bekks> curlyears: Linux since the 486SX16 :P
[22:28] <gbaker1> At least my middle name never gets screwed up, but I decided not to go by it for one major reason.... Rudolph... and in school the teachers always thought because that is my name I should have to play the part.
[22:28] <curlyears> bekks:  hardcore
[22:28] <ubuntu439> I have 4 GB ram
[22:28] <ubuntu439> Think it will be ok. but a singel core.
[22:30] <bekks> ubuntu439: It is still horribly old and slow.
[22:30] <YankDownUnder> ubuntu439: You might want to download and install a 32-bit version.
[22:30] <OerHeks> ubuntu is so fast, such old hardware might catch on fire
[22:30] <ubuntu439> I guess so. It is old.. The cpu is 64 bit.
[22:30] <bekks> YankDownUnder: that will not magically speed up that hardware.
[22:33] <YankDownUnder> I'm merely going on experience with older hardware. Such is the case with many laptops that I have to "repurpose". The 64-bit edition obviously would be the preferred choice, however, processing speed coupled with graphics reduces the overall performance to a crawl. The 32-bit version obviously runs quicker. But there is merely IMHO and by experience. Experiementation is the key, really.
[22:33] <Bashing-om> ubuntu439: Also consider: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[22:34] <ubuntu439> I run xubuntu on a pentium N laptop. Think Ubuntu will run ok on pentium 4 3.4Ghz.
[22:35] <potatoes_> I run Ubuntu on an XD86
[22:35] <ubuntu439> I meen intel atom N450.
[22:35] <ubuntu439> laptop.
[22:35] <potatoes_> off a 5 1/4 inch floppy
[22:37] <curlyears> sure you do, potatoes....in your Lamborghini, right?
[22:41] <ozcanesen> hello i am playing with xhyve/bhyve virtualization environment using ubuntu minimal iso, when i boot i see ubuntu serial console and text mode installer but dns does not work, so i exit to shell using shift+escape and edited the /etc/resolve then dns works but how can i turn back to text mode installer from busybox?
[22:42] <potatoes_> curlyears: I'm drinking a vvvvery fine bottle of single malt scotch atm, much of what I say cannot be taken seriously.
[22:42] <gbaker1> ubuntu439 do you only have 4GB memory?
[22:42] <potatoes_> curlyears: as in, i was joking :)
[22:43] <ubuntu439> gbaker1: Yes 4GB. It is much compare to old times. I run windows at this time.
[22:44] <gbaker1> I ordered too much memory for my desktop so I have some spare "Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 DRAM 3200M"
[22:44] <ahrc333ff> Tha'ts great memory. Just threw it into my recent build.
[22:44] <ahrc333ff> Err, my wifes build. I have the crappier computer.
[22:44] <ahrc333ff> lol
[22:45] <gbaker1> I thought I ordered 2X for 64GB but I guess I ordered 3
[22:45] <potatoes_> meh
[22:45] <potatoes_> give it to me :)
[22:45] <ahrc333ff> hopefully they accept returns
[22:45] <potatoes_> i accept donations
[22:45] <ubuntu439> My graphich card have 1GB. Only the cpu can slow down some os maybe.
[22:46] <stacks88> so this box i have, ubuntu 14.04 doesnt seem to support the network card. so ive got to download the nic drivers from intel website and install them. but my question is, i prefer to rely on apt-get dist-upgrade for kernel upgrades. so if through apt a new kernel is installed, when i go to reboot, would those nic drivers i initially installed, still work ? or would i have to do it all over again
[22:46] <stacks88> for every kernel upgrade? I have not done any of this yet, nor have i ever really installed any nic drivers manually lol. so i guess im asking can you install nic drivers, and then not have to reinstall them every time you install a kernel upgrade via apt?
[22:48] <ahrc333ff> stacks88, I cannot say this definitively, but to the best of my recollection that kernel module you install for the NIC will not persist through the upgrade.
[22:48] <ahrc333ff> at least, last time I had to do somethign similar that was the case for me
[22:49] <drpuritan> Greetings
[22:49] <ahrc333ff> hello drpuritan
[22:49] <drpuritan> How are you today; my first time in here
[22:50] <ahrc333ff> doing well. i'm not a regular here either.
[22:50] <ahrc333ff> you?
[22:50] <drpuritan> Pretty good day so far
[22:50] <drpuritan> Enjoying Ubuntu on a dual boot
[22:51] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> how come Oracle Database Express Edition has rpm version for linux but not deb?
[22:51] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> is it possible to install rpm on ubuntu?
[22:51] <jatt> convert with alien
[22:51] <jatt> rpm -> deb
[22:51] <stacks88> im told "you'll need ixgbe.ko compiled from sources available at https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/14687, you can automate the module build with dkms in order to avoid having to recompile the module each time" -- unsure how to automate the module build with dkms =/
[22:51] <drpuritan> Wish I could find a way to get "allow louder than 100%" on all distros
[22:51] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> jatt: what is alien? a program to convert rpms?
[22:52] <ahrc333ff> LJHSLDJHSDLJH, also a good exercise to download binaries or compile :) I mean, if you'r ein the *nix environemnt you've probably got some interest in how things work
[22:52] <jatt> yes
[22:52] <jatt> it's in the repos
[22:52] <drpuritan> True that!
[22:52] <stacks88> Does anyone know if ubuntu 16.04 supports this nic ? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/14687 or is there some way to find out ?
[22:52] <drpuritan> Never compiled
[22:52] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> ahrc333ff: why do you think there is source to compile Oracle Database Express Edition
[22:53] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> thanks jatt
[22:53] <jatt> 😉
[22:53] <sulle\a> Why is it when i open a game. it pops up on my second monitor. Why wont it go on my main screen ?.
[22:53] <ahrc333ff> stacks88: sorry, not something I'm familiar with off the top of my head. but usually there are instructions to compile whenyou downoad the source code
[22:55] <YankDownUnder> stacks88: Something to read quickly: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.4.0
[22:55] <YankDownUnder> stacks88: "Ubuntu is already current..."
[22:57] <daumie> sulle\a:  did you bind your game to a specific workspaces?
[22:57] <sulle\a> No
[22:57] <sulle\a> daumie, i dont know how to do that.
[22:58] <sulle\a> i have 2 screens. and the games pops up on the second one
[22:58] <daumie> Are the graphics processors different for the monitors?
[22:58] <sulle\a> its 2 diffrent monitors, but same graphic card
[22:59] <daumie> Which card?
[22:59] <sulle\a> I use playOnlinux and use wine.
[22:59] <YankDownUnder> One of the monitors is set to primary, the other secondary. The monitor you want to have the game "play" on should be primary. Change the monitor designation.
[23:00] <sulle\a> GeForce GTX 780
[23:00] <sulle\a> Where do i do that?.
[23:01] <YankDownUnder> Control Centre => Hardware => Monitors/Displays
[23:01] <sulle\a> YankDownUnder, there is no place where i can choose primary
[23:02] <YankDownUnder> sulle\a: What desktop are you using - Unity? Mate? KDE? Cinnamon?
[23:02] <daumie> Detect displays under appearance
[23:02] <sulle\a> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[23:03] <YankDownUnder> sulle\a: So you're using Unity, yes? No? Not sure?
[23:03] <sulle\a> not sure
[23:04] <sulle\a> YankDownUnder, Xenial
[23:05] <sulle\a> and when i click "Detect Displays" nothing happens, both monitors works. But for some odd reasons the games wants to show up on monitor 2.
[23:06] <YankDownUnder> It's not about "detecting displays" - you're wanting to set the primary display. In the window where you're seeing the two monitors, you should be able to click on the one that you want to have as your primary display - there is a black bar that you should be able to drag to the monitor of your choice, then click "apply/save" and that should resolve the issue.
[23:09] <sulle\a> YankDownUnder, the only black bare in there is the ubuntu menu bar showing up on the 1st monitor
[23:09] <sulle\a> The rest of the window is gray. +2 monitors. one yellow "with the black menu bar" and a blue monitor next to it.
[23:10] <YankDownUnder> sulle\a: You should be able to drag that bar to the next monitor.
[23:11] <sulle\a> Yes i can that but then it will be wrong. then my second monitor have the menu bar and my main monitor dont.,
[23:11] <YankDownUnder> sulle\a: This might give you some hints: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/solved-multiple-display-16-04-loginscreen-placement/5456
[23:13] <sulle\a> YankDownUnder, ok, thank you. I will look in to it.
[23:17] <bilb_ono> is there a good way to check if the GPU is available on my machine
[23:17] <bilb_ono> I am trying to run a program which uses the GPU and it keeps saying there is none
[23:18] <bilb_ono> but I swear there is - its an amazon ec2 instance
[23:28] <ScriptThis> What does the -F explanation of man ls actually mean? "append indicator (one of */=>@|) to entries" <-- that?
[23:30] <gbaker1> bilb_ono Try "sudo lshw -C display"
[23:30] <bilb_ono> gbaker1: lspci seemed to work thanks
[23:31] <gbaker1> No prob, fogured the other command spits out a lot less info
[23:31] <gbaker1> *figured
[23:31] <trism> ScriptThis: "The file type indicators are `/' for directories, `@' for symbolic links, `|' for FIFOs, `=' for sockets, `>' for doors, and nothing for regular files."
[23:32] <trism> ScriptThis: from: info ls;
[23:32] <trism> ScriptThis: I thought it listed it on one of the man pages too but I couldn't find it
[23:32] <ScriptThis> trism, thank you!
[23:47] <Grorco> Hello I was just thinking about it how come you can install programs using google play for android without root, but you can't do it with ubuntu *insert any software manager here*
[23:49] <tatertots> Grorco isn't that an apple to oranges comparison commonly made by people who mistakenly think android and linux are identical?
[23:49] <Grorco> or am I wrong is there a way to point lets say ubuntu software centre to the user space?
[23:50] <tatertots> Apple OS x and linux are both unix based...that doesn't mean they are the same
[23:50] <tatertots> *nix based
[23:51] <Grorco> tatertots, I understand they're not identical, but I was just wondering I had never thought about it don't do much with my phone outside of games :)
[23:51] <YankDownUnder> Android is a VM that lives on top of a basic linux kernel. A VM - virtual machine.
[23:52] <Grorco> tatertots, see I thought android was just built on top of the linux kernel
[23:52] <Grorco> so when you root your phone is it giving you access to the actual linux system it resides on?
[23:53] <Grorco> or is it just root to the vm?
[23:53] <YankDownUnder> In Android - things get installed specifically for "the user" - not "the system". In order to do things "in the system", the OS has to be "rooted". In *nix, the SYSTEM is where things get installed/affected...the user is merely, well, a user. If the user gets hosed, the system still lives. In Android, if the user gets hosed, well, you have to re-install the VM.
[23:54] <tatertots> < waiting for someone to chime in with the whole #ubuntu-offtopic thing
[23:54] <YankDownUnder> Only the Nazis will do that, bro.
[23:54] <ikonia> errr no
[23:54] <ikonia> please don't make that sort of refernce, it's uncalled for
[23:54] <tatertots> funny how sometimes when people aren't talking about ubuntu they are quick to pull the #offtopic trigger
[23:54] <Grorco> tatertots, well the question was more about if I could do it in linux
[23:54] <ikonia> the channels topic is ubuntu support discussion
[23:55] <Grorco> specifically ubuntu
[23:55] <ikonia> if you want other topics there are various other channels including #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:56] <Grorco> tatertots, this really comes down to I want my daughter to be able to download and use apps in her user space on my machine without granting her root
[23:56] <Grorco> just thought about it worked like that on android so wondered if it was possible
[23:56] <ikonia> Grorco: just grant sudo access to the package manager, nothing more
[23:57] <ikonia> then she can install what she wants and it will be audited and manageable
[23:57] <Grorco> ikonia, I added her to my sudoers file but it gave her all access I beilve
[23:57] <Grorco> maybe I did it wrong
[23:58] <ikonia> then don't do that
[23:58] <ikonia> just grant access to the package manager
[23:58] <Grorco> how do I do that? I had asked before and that was the response I got
[23:59] <ikonia> Grorco: if you read up on sudo rules, you'll find you can grant any access to any program
[23:59] <Grorco> ikonia, not using the sudoers file?