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| altker128 | Running OTA11 on a Nexus 4. I notice the phone continually tries to connect to dash.ubuntu.com . What gives? Will definitely burn battery. | 07:40 |
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| brunch875 | hey popey, for how long does the M10 battery last? I'm considering getting one | 14:33 |
| popey | dunno, never measured it | 14:40 |
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| altker128 | Is there a thread that shows how to cross-compile a standard C/C++ app for Ubuntu Touch? | 17:49 |
| mariogrip | altker128: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CrossCompile | 18:19 |
| altker128 | mariogrip: Thanks! I was able to get the armhf (linaro) toolchain installed and compiled a C hello world that works | 18:21 |
| altker128 | Is there a reason why dnsutils doesn't exist for ubuntu-touch? No nslookup | 18:24 |
| willer | hey how's it going | 18:26 |
| willer | i heard whatsapp was doable, is it reliable? | 18:27 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: I think you can run 'getent host <hostname>' instead. | 18:27 |
| Mikaela | willer: no idea what you heard, but WhatsApp bans third party apps and thus only WhatsApp can make a WhatsApp app. | 18:28 |
| willer | yeah i saw a thread about it | 18:28 |
| Mikaela | and same with Signal https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issuecomment-217211165 | 18:29 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Any reason why there's no standard dnsutils package though? | 18:30 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: In my opinion, phone's rom should contain only what's need. The phone's storage space is limited. | 18:32 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: OK. But, it doesn't even exist as an installable package... | 18:33 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: But there is a package for "eject", which ejects CDs and operates CD-changers under Linux ... | 18:33 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: "eject"? Where did you find that? I think I've never heard anyone packaging command line application in Ubuntu touch. | 18:34 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: I used apt-cache search and it show sup. | 18:35 |
| altker128 | root@ubuntu-phablet:/tmp# apt-cache search eject | 18:35 |
| altker128 | insserv - boot sequence organizer using LSB init.d script dependency information | 18:35 |
| altker128 | eject - ejects CDs and operates CD-Changers under Linux | 18:35 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: OK. Ideally we should never install anything over "apt". It'll mess up intend-to-read-only root file system. | 18:36 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: We install application in Ubuntu touch in "click" format, which will keep application separately from system image. | 18:37 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Can one easily compile something like nslookup into click? | 18:38 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: I don't know. As I said, I've never heard anyone packaging command line application in "click" format. | 18:40 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: I guess you'll have to stick to "getent hosts <hostname>". Worked on my phone. | 18:41 |
| altker128 | Or, just cross-compile what I need. | 18:42 |
| altker128 | I mean, I get the idea here about keeping things lean. Clearly the repos have stuff no one needs, dnsutils should be there though. | 18:44 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: Actually, another way to get away with this is putting the binary in ~/bin directory. But you'll have to take care of dependency yourself. (But I guess dnsutils won't have exotic one that isn't shipped in base image) | 18:45 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: I still assume that /bin is overwritten on system updates | 18:46 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: I mean, directory "bin" under your own home directory. No one will wipe your home directory. | 18:46 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: But, please take care to get correct binary from armhf repository. | 18:48 |
| altker128 | Is http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/ broken for anyone else? | 18:48 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Yes, I'm with you :) | 18:48 |
| altker128 | Error | 18:48 |
| altker128 | more than one suite specified for show_static | 18:48 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: I think they've removed vivid info out of that site. "vivid" itself is unsupported now. | 18:50 |
| altker128 | Uhhh, OTA-11 is vivid, unless I missed something | 18:51 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: I said vivid _itself_. vivid get extended support *only for touch* while they make things works on newer release. | 18:53 |
| altker128 | So, is there a web interface where I can find vivid packages for my Ubuntu Touch phone? | 18:54 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/b/bind9/dnsutils_9.9.5.dfsg-9ubuntu0.5_armhf.deb | 19:02 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Much obliged :) | 19:02 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Out of curiosity, usually the repositories track versions, will anythingin ports work on 15.04/vivid? | 19:03 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: Actually, I just see that it require a few library that isn't shipped in base image. Sorry! | 19:03 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: ports.ubuntu.com keeps all packages for a few architectures that Ubuntu support (iirc main server serves only x86 and x86_64) | 19:06 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: Actually parts of packages that runs Ubuntu touch comes from that server. | 19:07 |
| altker128 | I guess I'm slightly confused in that I'd expect it to still be versioned by the Ubuntu release somewhere in the URL | 19:08 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: ports.ubuntu.com is an apt repository. They keep versioning information in another directory called "dists". | 19:10 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Let me rephrase. If you're running say Debian 8.0, then you get one .deb file, if you're running Debian 6.0, you get your .deb from a different folder. How does the ports.ubuntu.com system help me select a .deb file for the right release? | 19:12 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: No. Even Debian give deb *from the same directory*. Not believe me? Take a look at http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bind9/ | 19:20 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Ah, sorry!! | 19:21 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: You'll see different versions of the same package stay together in that folder. | 19:21 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Yes, I missed that, sorry | 19:22 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: BTW, the proper way to solve your problem is to create "libertine container", but for your case it's too overkill. | 19:22 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Yeah, that pushes it into an lxc container, right? | 19:23 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: Yes, and creating its own rootfs. | 19:24 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: I guess you'll have to grab a few libs and put it into ~/lib, then set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/phablet/lib, too. | 19:26 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Would it be possible to just cross-compile the .deb-src for dnsutils? | 19:27 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: You won't be able to install it, for the same reason we won't use "apt" | 19:28 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Well, I mean if I remount the system in rw mode, I can do that. | 19:28 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: Yes, you can do that. But I really discourage you to do that. It may silently brakes normal image-based upgrading system. | 19:30 |
| altker128 | This is just my idea, but I think if the system maintains a list of packages the user installs, that perhaps go into their own lxc-container, then users can still use apt and not break the upgrade process | 19:31 |
| altker128 | A real advantage of having full-blown Ubuntu Linux on your phone is the power of apt, deb, and UNIX . I know this is slightly at odds with looking at the phablet as a consumer device, but if users wanted just that, then Android and iOS satisfy that demand well. | 19:32 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: I'm not sure I understand you correctly, but I think that's what libertine is for. | 19:33 |
| peat-psuwit | altker128: seriously, I'm out of clean solution now. It might be easier to just ssh to some machine and run nslookup there, or setup libertine. | 19:34 |
| altker128 | peat-psuwit: Thanks for your suggestions. Wasn't just about nslookup, but your points are taken about libterine, etc. | 19:34 |
| altker128 | What's an easy way to get ubuntu-touch to run a script on start-up? Doesn't seem to honor rc.local | 20:56 |
| DPA | altker128: There are upstart scripts in /etc/init/ | 20:56 |
| altker128 | Is there a way to just...run a start-up script without having to mess with upstart? | 20:57 |
| DPA | altker128: It is the only way I know about | 20:58 |
| altker128 | in /etc/init.d, there's an rc.local | 20:59 |
| altker128 | Why has simple stuff become so complicated?! | 21:04 |
| DPA | I just looked at /etc/init.d/rc.local, on my phone, it executes /etc/rc.local. I added "echo test >> /tmp/test" to my /etc/rc.local, and after a reboot the file was there, so it should work. | 21:07 |
| altker128 | hrm | 21:07 |
| altker128 | hrm | 21:13 |
| altker128 | DPA: OK, so rc.local does work, I am trying to disable ipv6 and I guess some other script in the start-up process after rc.local reenables it | 21:14 |
| altker128 | Anyone know where IPV6 stuff is being enabled? | 21:32 |
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| Guest_84843 | allah is doing | 21:42 |
| Guest_84843 | sun is not doing Allah is doing | 21:42 |
| Guest_84843 | moon is not doing Allah is doing | 21:42 |
| Guest_84843 | stars are not doing Allah is doing | 21:42 |
| Guest_84843 | planets are not doing Allah is doing | 21:42 |
| altker128 | Seriously, can anyone comment on how to permanently disable IPV6? I have the correct sysctls setup in rc.local and when I run it manually after the phone is booted IPV6 stays off, but something is turing IPV6 after rc.local is run | 21:59 |
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