| Kilos | morning everyone | 06:18 |
|---|---|---|
| paddatrapper | Morning Kilos | 06:38 |
| Kilos | hi paddatrapper | 06:38 |
| paddatrapper | How goes it? | 06:38 |
| Kilos | not too bad ty and you lad? | 06:39 |
| paddatrapper | I'm good. Wonderful day out, so probably won't be online too much | 06:39 |
| Kilos | get some UV's | 06:40 |
| paddatrapper | Exactly. Lol | 06:40 |
| Kilos | i spend lots of time in the sun in winter | 06:40 |
| Kilos | house too cold | 06:40 |
| paddatrapper | It's the only place that is sometimes warm | 06:40 |
| paddatrapper | Shade and houses are freezing | 06:41 |
| Kilos | yeah | 06:41 |
| Kilos | as you get older it gets worse | 06:41 |
| paddatrapper | I'm sure | 06:46 |
| Kilos | so stay young | 06:49 |
| inetpro | yay, I'm back Oom | 09:44 |
| inetpro | goiedag mense | 09:44 |
| Kilos | wb inetpro | 09:49 |
| Kilos | glad to see you survived the ordeal | 09:49 |
| inetpro | quassel server had disk errors needing manual intervention after a reboot yesterday | 09:57 |
| Kilos | wow | 09:58 |
| inetpro | a repair fixed it... hopefully not something else damaged | 09:58 |
| Kilos | painful when rebooting causes probs | 09:59 |
| inetpro | but it's due for an upgrade anyway... just not now | 09:59 |
| Kilos | old server os running | 10:00 |
| pavlushka | Hello Kilos inetpro Na3iL ! | 10:58 |
| pavlushka | ahoy ZA | 10:58 |
| Na3iL | Hello friends | 11:09 |
| Kilos | hi pavlushka | 11:09 |
| Kilos | not many here atm i think | 11:10 |
| Kilos | they start appearing lowly | 11:10 |
| pavlushka | ok | 11:11 |
| pavlushka | how are you Na3iL ? | 11:11 |
| Na3iL | I am very good pavlushka ty, yourself? | 11:11 |
| pavlushka | Na3iL: Having my Rizk, :) | 11:12 |
| Na3iL | If I remember well, it's a casino | 11:13 |
| Na3iL | right? | 11:13 |
| Kilos | must be food | 11:13 |
| Na3iL | aw, is that a special food in South Africa? | 11:13 |
| Kilos | no | 11:14 |
| Kilos | he is in bangladesh | 11:14 |
| Na3iL | Ah yep I forget this | 11:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:15 |
| Kilos | spends lots of time thinking about food i think | 11:15 |
| Na3iL | I am a big fan of foods btw :p | 11:15 |
| Na3iL | we have a special plat in Tunisia we call it Koskous | 11:16 |
| Na3iL | You should eat it Kilos :D | 11:16 |
| Kilos | ill try it one day Na3iL , i have heard the word before | 11:16 |
| Na3iL | :D | 11:17 |
| Kilos | Na3iL send a recipe | 11:19 |
| Na3iL | take a look Kilos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goatuk9dnPQ | 11:20 |
| Kilos | ty | 11:20 |
| Kilos | not a cooking video i hope | 11:20 |
| Kilos | videos eat my data | 11:21 |
| Na3iL | aw, let me check for a text version | 11:21 |
| Kilos | haha | 11:21 |
| Na3iL | here is http://www.cookitsimply.com/recipe-0010-01376s2.html | 11:21 |
| Kilos | you people and youtube | 11:21 |
| Kilos | ty | 11:21 |
| Na3iL | yw :) | 11:23 |
| hibana | time for me to say good bye again | 13:14 |
| hibana | Kilos: tot weersiens | 13:14 |
| inetpro | bye hibana | 13:15 |
| superfly | Na3iL: that looks delicious | 13:38 |
| Na3iL | haha superfly if you can come to Tunisia, I will invite you to try it :D | 13:38 |
| superfly | Na3iL: I'm sure I can persuade my wife to make it :-) (that's if I don't) | 13:39 |
| Na3iL | okay | 13:39 |
| gremble | Good afternoon | 13:45 |
| superfly | hi gremble | 13:46 |
| gremble | Are you well superfly? | 13:48 |
| superfly | well enough thanks, and you? | 13:49 |
| gremble | I am well thank you. Only complaint is cold feet. | 13:50 |
| superfly | I need to go, catch you all later | 13:53 |
| gremble | Cheers | 13:54 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 14:23 |
| Kilos | missed hibana | 14:35 |
| Kilos | and fly | 14:35 |
| Kilos | hi gremble | 14:35 |
| gremble | How are you Kilos? | 14:35 |
| gremble | Well and warm? | 14:35 |
| Kilos | warm yes ty half under the blankets already | 14:36 |
| Kilos | how are you? | 14:36 |
| gremble | I am well thank you | 14:38 |
| Kilos | hi SEptic | 16:04 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 16:04 |
| SEptic | hello! | 16:05 |
| Kilos | where are you? | 16:05 |
| SEptic | eastern cape | 16:05 |
| Kilos | cool | 16:05 |
| Kilos | feel free to hang here 24/7 and just shout if you need linux help | 16:06 |
| SEptic | been using linux for 2 or 3 years, trying to help out and learn more at the same time | 16:06 |
| SEptic | cool, thanks | 16:06 |
| Kilos | we have experts i n all the fields here | 16:06 |
| Kilos | have you seen our site? | 16:07 |
| Kilos | https://ubuntu-za.org | 16:07 |
| SEptic | nice! | 16:07 |
| Kilos | this is our official support channel but whe arent tied to the topic unless someone is being helped | 16:09 |
| SEptic | good to know | 16:10 |
| SEptic | was having issues the other day plugging 2 external screens into my laptop, but i need to try 1 or 2 more tests before asking questions | 16:11 |
| SEptic | been looking for a local irc linux chan, found one! | 16:12 |
| Kilos | the lugs have gone quiet | 16:12 |
| Kilos | everyone has become too busy these days | 16:13 |
| Kilos | someone here will be able to help you im sure | 16:14 |
| Kilos | what OS are you using | 16:15 |
| Kilos | you just have to be patient here till someone wakes up | 16:15 |
| SEptic | i'm running ubuntu 17.3 on my laptops | 16:17 |
| SEptic | 18 looks good but hanging on until i have a weekend to mass upgrade | 16:18 |
| Kilos | im lost | 16:19 |
| Kilos | where did you get 17.3 | 16:19 |
| Kilos | and 18 | 16:20 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro i see Mzolisto is back as well | 16:20 |
| Kilos | was he aslso a reviced casualty | 16:21 |
| Kilos | revived | 16:21 |
| SEptic | lol | 16:21 |
| SEptic | my bad .. mint 17.3 and 18 | 16:21 |
| Kilos | aha | 16:21 |
| Kilos | thats fine | 16:21 |
| SEptic | rofl | 16:21 |
| Kilos | there are other mint users as well | 16:22 |
| SEptic | used to use ubuntu hmm 12 i think? then tried mint and it just stuck | 16:37 |
| Kilos | lol that happens | 16:37 |
| SEptic | i'd like to get more involved, i can sit in on this tuesday meeting yes? | 16:52 |
| Kilos | yes everyone is welcome | 16:53 |
| Kilos | and you can hang out here all the time as well | 16:53 |
| Kilos | you can invite others to attend as well | 16:54 |
| SEptic | great, thanks | 16:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: uh oh! | 17:11 |
| Kilos | inetpro what? | 17:11 |
| inetpro | I goes those accounts just autoconnected after the restart | 17:12 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:12 |
| Kilos | only one | 17:13 |
| Kilos | i dont see the other guy | 17:13 |
| Kilos | np | 17:13 |
| * inetpro noticed two unused accounts | 17:13 | |
| Kilos | i forget the other guys nick | 17:13 |
| Kilos | say hi to the new guy inetpro | 17:14 |
| inetpro | hello newguy | 17:14 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 17:14 |
| Kilos | SEptic he means you | 17:14 |
| Kilos | inetpro is our mr fixit | 17:14 |
| inetpro | oh my, hello SEptic | 17:14 |
| SEptic | haha hello | 17:14 |
| Kilos | but he makes you work for it | 17:15 |
| inetpro | where did you find him Kilos? | 17:15 |
| SEptic | fair enough | 17:15 |
| Kilos | he found us | 17:15 |
| inetpro | haha... ok | 17:15 |
| Kilos | dont know what took him 3 years | 17:15 |
| SEptic | lol | 17:15 |
| Kilos | maybe mint users are a bit slower | 17:15 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:15 |
| SEptic | it seems so yes | 17:17 |
| SEptic | haha | 17:17 |
| Kilos | inetpro you didnt tell him welcome | 17:19 |
| Kilos | when you say it peeps hang around | 17:19 |
| Kilos | when i say it they go fishing tomorrow | 17:19 |
| SEptic | used to live on irc as a kid ... been many years | 17:27 |
| Kilos | aha | 17:28 |
| Kilos | i only learned about irc about 8 years ago | 17:29 |
| SEptic | i stopped about 2006, want to learn and help with this ubuntu stuff and heard about irc chans and here i am | 17:36 |
| Kilos | haha | 17:36 |
| Kilos | soon you will be using ubuntu | 17:36 |
| Kilos | preferably kde flavour | 17:37 |
| SEptic | lol! k i won't fight it ... i'll make a vm in the meantime | 17:38 |
| Kilos | haha | 17:38 |
| SEptic | kubuntu yes? | 17:40 |
| Kilos | yes | 17:40 |
| Kilos | i dunno about 16.04 , im still on 14.04 | 17:41 |
| Kilos | inetpro advise | 17:41 |
| SEptic | i see 16.04 is long term | 17:41 |
| Kilos | yes as is 14.04 | 17:42 |
| Kilos | 5 years support | 17:42 |
| Sicelo | and 12.04 :p | 17:42 |
| Sicelo | (which i nuked on laptop last week) | 17:43 |
| Kilos | haha i still run 12.04 on old desktop | 17:43 |
| Kilos | works well on slower pcs | 17:43 |
| Sicelo | old ThinkPad X40 :p ... 1GB RAM, 1.4GHz Pentium M processor | 17:44 |
| Kilos | whew | 17:44 |
| Sicelo | incredibly, latest stable Debian runs awesomely on it | 17:45 |
| SEptic | impressive | 17:45 |
| Sicelo | but you won't believe this (at least i couldn't ...) | 17:45 |
| Sicelo | Gnome 3 seems to be a lesser resource hog than Cinnamon DE (which is used in Mint) | 17:45 |
| Sicelo | i practically couldn't do anything on the laptop with Cinnamon .. but Gnome 3 works just fine .. it's slower than XFCE, but definitely useable | 17:46 |
| Sicelo | anyway .. i have a problem with gdm3+gnome-shell combination, | 17:47 |
| Sicelo | so currently using lightdm+gnome3 | 17:48 |
| SEptic | hectic | 17:49 |
| Sicelo | anyone ever played with the JACK Audio Connection Kit? | 17:51 |
| SEptic | the big + for mint is for ppl changing from windows, wiped my wife's windows on her laptop (Dell Inspiron 1545) and forced her to use mint with very little moaning | 17:51 |
| SEptic | nope | 17:51 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 17:51 |
| Sicelo | i've also got two ex-Windows guys that I introduced to Linux .. pointed them to Mint too. They are happy about it too | 17:52 |
| Sicelo | ah yes .. meant to ask this: | 17:53 |
| Sicelo | https://www.isignite.co.za/wizard/BusinessRisk/Products?tab=%23CloudServer <== do you know any better deal than this? | 17:53 |
| Sicelo | i want just a basic site/blog and i don't expect a lot of traffic | 17:53 |
| Sicelo | must be local | 17:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sorry I was on the phone | 18:03 |
| Kilos | np | 18:03 |
| Kilos | you like scrolling back far | 18:03 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:03 |
| nsnzero | i use mint too - on another laptop - this 1 is KDE | 18:05 |
| Sicelo | never used KDE, although i've heard good things about it | 18:07 |
| SEptic | i alway have a good laugh to myself when theres that communal office sigh about end of day windows upgrades | 18:07 |
| nsnzero | hi Slcelo - mint made me change to linux but KDE made me stay | 18:08 |
| SEptic | lol nice | 18:09 |
| Sicelo | :) | 18:09 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:10 |
| Sicelo | tbh, i spend a lot of my time in a terminal ... can't say that either Gnome or KDE affects my use case much | 18:10 |
| Sicelo | will test KDE one of these days soon however | 18:10 |
| nsnzero | SEptic: windows 10 upgrades brings my office network to a stand still - i just disable the upgrader | 18:10 |
| Sicelo | nsnzero: WSUS :) | 18:11 |
| Sicelo | or whatever it's called nowadays | 18:11 |
| SEptic | ja look, since the whole pushy win10 update story, not interested in running that as my main OS | 18:13 |
| nsnzero | Sicelo: there is a a version of mint with the KDE Desktop - try it out . it uses KDE 4 which is stable and mature | 18:14 |
| SEptic | yes, have to run VMs for proprietary software, but my main OS is mint on SSD | 18:14 |
| SEptic | aah ok cool will check | 18:14 |
| SEptic | boot time is mental | 18:15 |
| Sicelo | nsnzero: will just install kde on top of this ;) | 18:15 |
| nsnzero | that works too | 18:16 |
| Sicelo | jessie seems to have 4.11 .. i guess should be good enought | 18:17 |
| nsnzero | ms is good at marketing - but win10 it not wining the hearts of all | 18:18 |
| SEptic | ... and those useless tiles | 18:19 |
| SEptic | *puts head in hands* | 18:19 |
| nsnzero | you can always test KDE Plasma in a VM - its not stable or mature enough for me to recommend - use it just for the challenge of it | 18:20 |
| SEptic | yea, dl'ing a bunch of .iso | 18:21 |
| Sicelo | i've read aobut Plasma too .. aiui it was at least touch-screen focused? | 18:21 |
| captine | evening all | 18:22 |
| nsnzero | Sicelo: i dont recall but i guess touch is the new in thing | 18:23 |
| Kilos | hi captine | 18:23 |
| nsnzero | good evening captine | 18:23 |
| Sicelo | hi hi captine | 18:24 |
| nsnzero | Kilos: how you feeling ? | 18:24 |
| Kilos | hehe with my hands | 18:24 |
| Sicelo | yes nsnzero .. i read about it while comparing window managers suitable for tablet us. apparently plasma was making very good progress | 18:24 |
| Kilos | actually flu is improving ty | 18:24 |
| nsnzero | Sicelo: while touch looks good (and awesome in the movies) i really not a fan - have a wndows 8 touch tablet lying around somewhere - it never impress me other than the marketing hype | 18:27 |
| Sicelo | but if you chroot a linux distro in your android phone for example .. a touch-optimized WM helps | 18:28 |
| Sicelo | particularly as capacitive touch panels took over the accurate resistive panels of yester-year. unless you pay for some expensive 'modern' stylus/pen | 18:30 |
| nsnzero | Sicelo: thats true | 18:32 |
| Sicelo | just looked at the meeting agenda ... | 18:33 |
| Sicelo | does ubuntu-za sometimes organize events? | 18:34 |
| Kilos | yes when someone has time | 18:34 |
| Sicelo | where could i see some past events? and past meeting minutes? | 18:35 |
| Kilos | inetpro ^^ | 18:36 |
| Kilos | superfly ^^ | 18:36 |
| Sicelo | ah .. got the past minutes | 18:36 |
| Sicelo | will try to be here for the next meeting as audience :) | 18:39 |
| SEptic | i'm using hexchat atm, better recommended irc clients? | 18:39 |
| Kilos | you are welcome | 18:39 |
| Kilos | on kde? | 18:39 |
| Kilos | hexchat is good for gnomd | 18:39 |
| Kilos | e | 18:39 |
| Sicelo | SEptic: irssi :p | 18:40 |
| SEptic | mint | 18:40 |
| Kilos | hexchat is fine imo | 18:40 |
| SEptic | ah ok cool | 18:40 |
| Kilos | irssi is hard work | 18:40 |
| Kilos | for me anyway | 18:40 |
| SEptic | ... just wondering what all the cool kids are using | 18:41 |
| Kilos | some guys use quassel then they can bounce wirh cell as well | 18:41 |
| Sicelo | irssi only for me on everything - laptop/pc/cell | 18:41 |
| Sicelo | Kilos: XChat dead? used to look good last i used it | 18:42 |
| nsnzero | hardcore - konversation on kde | 18:42 |
| Kilos | un supported last i heard but still works | 18:43 |
| Sicelo | sucks .. it seemed a good client. i guess hexchat is a fork? | 18:43 |
| Sicelo | meh .. | 18:57 |
| Sicelo | split | 18:57 |
| superfly | ohi Sicelo | 18:58 |
| * superfly uses Quassel | 18:58 | |
| superfly | (and quasseldroid, and occasionally quassel-webserver) | 18:59 |
| Sicelo | superfly: ;) | 18:59 |
| * superfly doesn't know if he qualifies as a cool kid... probably not | 19:01 | |
| SEptic | checking out quassel ... | 19:16 |
| Kilos | wb everyone | 19:16 |
| Kilos | major netspit | 19:16 |
| SEptic | lol i rem splits when i used irc back in the day | 19:17 |
| Sicelo | :) | 19:17 |
| SEptic | walk down memory lane this weekend | 19:18 |
| inetpro | good night everybody | 19:21 |
| Kilos | night inetpro | 19:21 |
| Sicelo | nighty | 19:22 |
| SEptic | night | 19:24 |
| * Sicelo is installing kde now :) | 19:44 | |
| Kilos | lol | 19:44 |
| Kilos | now we just wait for SEptic | 19:45 |
| Kilos | kde might be a bit slow on that lappy | 19:46 |
| Sicelo | okay .. i'll go back to Gnome then :p | 19:46 |
| Sicelo | (if it's unusable, that is) | 19:46 |
| Kilos | try it first though | 19:46 |
| Kilos | at times its worth waiting for | 19:47 |
| Kilos | takes some getting used to | 19:47 |
| SEptic | lol i'm on it | 19:47 |
| Sicelo | i see it is pulling in vlc as a dependency .. /me has not used vlc in a long time | 19:47 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:48 |
| Sicelo | land mysql .. wut :-/ | 19:48 |
| Sicelo | s/land/and/ | 19:48 |
| Sicelo | sqlite too, lol | 19:50 |
| Sicelo | now i'm wondering what all this stuff gets used for | 19:50 |
| Sicelo | jre :-/ | 19:50 |
| Sicelo | gd | 19:58 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:12 |
| Kilos | see you tomorrow | 20:12 |
| Sicelo | nightie Kilos | 20:12 |
| SEptic | i'm out | 20:26 |
| SEptic | moro | 20:26 |
| Symmetria | sup | 20:50 |
| Symmetria | ;p | 20:51 |
| Symmetria | who's awake | 20:51 |
| Sicelo | me | 20:52 |
| Sicelo | not happy about KDE, lol (from Gnome) | 20:52 |
| Symmetria | heh, Im sitting here kinda freaked out haha | 20:52 |
| Sicelo | Symmetria: any idea how i create/access another workspace in KDE? | 20:52 |
| Symmetria | so, I knew I had like, a ton of work to complete, Im on a tight deadline, the work requires a crapload of concentration, and I only got 6 hours sleep last night | 20:53 |
| Symmetria | so at 6am, I get up, I have a cup of coffee | 20:53 |
| Symmetria | at lunch time, I take 200mgs of provigil (something that was recommended to me and that is avialable in Kenya over the counter) | 20:53 |
| Sicelo | aw .. that seems bad | 20:53 |
| Symmetria | heh, I've now been working for 18 hours straight, my concentration is totally perfect, and I feel like I just woke up for 12 hours of good sleep | 20:53 |
| Symmetria | its like... I took 10 cups of coffee and got all the alertness but none of the downsides, its... wierd | 20:54 |
| Symmetria | and no, no idea on KDE :) | 20:54 |
| Sicelo | i feel like i'm back on Windows :-/ | 20:56 |
| Sicelo | KDE looks good .. no lies | 20:56 |
| Sicelo | and i see a few things here and there it does better than Gnome .. but err ... | 20:56 |
| Sicelo | now i have to RTFM before I can use workspaces ... i don't like that .. heck, even win 10 has them now | 20:57 |
| Symmetria | lol, I refuse to use X as a desktop system, heh, purely because of application support | 20:57 |
| Symmetria | I stick to linux for servers | 20:57 |
| Symmetria | windows 10 for desktop | 20:57 |
| Symmetria | and osx for notebooks | 20:57 |
| Symmetria | (I'd love to run OSX as primary but osx without apple hardware doesnt work terribly well and I cant get apple hardware big enough to replace my current desktop specs) | 20:58 |
| Sicelo | and some of us have no will to pay $$$ to apple anyway | 20:58 |
| Symmetria | heh for me, I'd pay for it if I could find a machine that could do what my other desktop system can in terms of specs | 20:59 |
| Symmetria | lol, hardware is the one thing I never go cheap on | 20:59 |
| Symmetria | http://server.alstonnetworks.net/photos/IMG_0184.JPG | 21:00 |
| Symmetria | my office at home ;p | 21:00 |
| Sicelo | you have the money to pay for it .. | 21:01 |
| Symmetria | Sicelo lol, some of it, the rest I find reasons to make the company pay for ;p | 21:01 |
| Sicelo | nice setup there .. what you do with it? | 21:01 |
| Sicelo | at least you also have someone to pull strings with, lol .. | 21:01 |
| Symmetria | Sicelo heh, I work for a very large telco/ISP, as group head of strategy | 21:02 |
| Symmetria | so everything from monitoring the network to network designs to working on 50 routers at once | 21:02 |
| Symmetria | heh, also video conferencing and everything else | 21:02 |
| Sicelo | okay .. makes sense | 21:02 |
| Symmetria | (you'll notice the cisco telepresence camera on the top of the monitor on the far right) | 21:02 |
| Symmetria | thats a high def VC camera | 21:02 |
| Symmetria | Sicelo lol, the other stuff is mostly disk space - the problems of 2 much bandwidth, it leads to 2 much disk space | 21:03 |
| Symmetria | ;p | 21:03 |
| Sicelo | (got workspaces now .. the call them desktops) | 21:04 |
| Sicelo | now, to find focus-follows-mouse | 21:04 |
| Sicelo | you're living the life ;) | 21:04 |
| Symmetria | btw, the reason I actually came in here, is anyone in here on FTTH | 21:04 |
| Symmetria | with proper bandwidth? | 21:04 |
| Symmetria | I wanna do a speed / transfer test from where I am to someone on one of the FTTH ISP's in ZA | 21:04 |
| Sicelo | i think people are sleeping .. i already can't buy an old apple .. so ftth is a dream i won't be realizing anytime soon, lol | 21:05 |
| Symmetria | LOL, bandwidth for me is the one thing I DON'T pay for at all | 21:05 |
| Symmetria | (and I have stupid amounts of it, haha, especially considering I'm in Kenya) | 21:05 |
| * Symmetria has 2 x 10G fibers into his house | 21:06 | |
| Symmetria | lol | 21:06 |
| Sicelo | nice | 21:09 |
| Symmetria | I'm gonna cry if I ever move back to ZA | 21:09 |
| Symmetria | and have to go back to like, normal people bandwidth | 21:10 |
| Symmetria | hehe | 21:10 |
| Sicelo | i say ZA has quite good b/w ... i come from Swaziland .. | 21:11 |
| Symmetria | Sicelo ZA bandwidth in terms of the rest of the world, and even in terms of the rest of east africa | 21:11 |
| Symmetria | sucks :) | 21:11 |
| Symmetria | but its all relative | 21:11 |
| Sicelo | you don't want to be in Swaziland .. trust me | 21:12 |
| Symmetria | lol, I know the problems with swazi, I used to supply the bandwidth for the university there | 21:13 |
| Symmetria | and I saw the costs involved and the tiny amounts | 21:13 |
| Sicelo | exactly | 21:13 |
| Symmetria | heh we supply bandwidth into lesotho, but not swaziland | 21:14 |
| Symmetria | maybe one day we'll start supplying there as well | 21:14 |
| Symmetria | :P I won't stop until we supply the whole continent hehe | 21:14 |
| Symmetria | (we also just bought out neotel) | 21:14 |
| Sicelo | maybe | 21:16 |
| Symmetria | Neotel is gonna be a fun project when I start working on that network | 21:16 |
| Sicelo | test | 21:19 |
| Sicelo | ah .. focus follows mouse done | 21:19 |
| * Sicelo no longer unhappy about KDE .. just harder to find some of the settings here | 21:20 | |
| Symmetria | btw, whoever designed the cacti database backend | 21:20 |
| Symmetria | needs a slap for making it horribly bloody complex | 21:20 |
| Sicelo | dunno it .. | 21:22 |
| Sicelo | this? http://www.cacti.net/downloads/docs/html/unix_configure_cacti.html | 21:23 |
| Symmetria | yeah, its a monitoring / graphing tool | 21:23 |
| Symmetria | except, heh, I needed a way to show me information differently so I was accessing the backend database to figure out what RRD's were where and draw my own status page | 21:24 |
| * Symmetria just discovered he could run 100gigabit over the same band spacing as a single 10gigabit using alien wave over 600 kilometers | 21:27 | |
| Sicelo | what ISP you're with? | 21:31 |
| Symmetria | I work for Liquid Telecom group | 21:32 |
| Sicelo | will check them out tomorrow .. i should be heading for bed soonish | 21:33 |
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