[00:00] <ikonia> yes, using the sudoers file
[00:01] <Grorco> like this coyana ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/synaptic, /usr/bin/software-center, /usr/bin/apt-get
[00:01] <Grorco> coyana is her name
[00:06] <Grorco> I got to leave for work, I'll have to read up on sudoers some more I'm assuming it's something off with the ALL= NOPASSWD part
[00:08] <virtuosoj> So I heard about the upcoming update for low-gfx Unity on 16.04.   How can I enable this??   I tried some command that just ended up breaking Compiz for one session
[00:10] <fk_007> using trusty on an acer easystore h340. system load average according to top is around 1.09. Seems like high interrupt activity with continuous ksoftirqd processes. any known issues with this setup or fixes to bring down the load? is it normal or something to be concerned about?
[00:14] <saitoh183> im getting a 302 error with apache. what would be the proper grep syntax to get Redirect / RedirectMatch / RewriteRule with [R] / RewriteRule with a fully qualified URL as a target / Location: header returned from application
[00:15] <codepython777> how do i update setuptools on ubuntu 14.04LTS?
[00:16] <ikonia> update from what to what
[00:16] <ikonia> saitoh183: grep is used to find things, not set things
[00:17] <saitoh183> ikonia: i know i was told to use grep to find the redirect info out because im trying to figure out why im getting a 302 error ...where it is coming from
[00:18] <ikonia> saitoh183: just look in the vhost config
[00:18] <ikonia> you don't need to grep, just read the file
[00:18] <codepython777> whats the best way to upgrade/install setuptools for ubuntu 14.04LTS?
[00:19] <ikonia> codepython777: upgrade from what to what
[00:19] <saitoh183> ikonia: that is the thing...i dont have a redirect line in the vhost...basically i have a nginx in front of a apache and for some reason the only vhost that doesnt work is my nextcloud
[00:20] <ikonia> saitoh183: so it would be nginx doing the redirect, not apache
[00:21] <saitoh183> ikonia: that is what i figured but i cant figure out why it isnt working... see here: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/apache-with-nginx-ssl-reverse-proxy-in-front/1650/2
[00:21] <ikonia> saitoh183: 302 is not found, so look on your apache errors what it's looking for and why it's failing
[00:22] <ikonia> saitoh183: not sure why you're looking in apache for redirects on a 302 error when the redirect is on ngnix
[00:22] <ikonia> just look at the apache logs, see what its looking for and why it's failing
[00:22] <codepython777> ikonia: sudo pip2.7 install --upgrade setuptools --> What is the correct way of doing this on ub 14.04LTS?
[00:22] <ikonia> codepython777: use the package from ubuntu package manager
[00:23] <saitoh183> ikonia: cuz the error appeared in the apache log
[00:23] <saitoh183> ikonia: but i figured it was nginx
[00:23] <ikonia> saitoh183: yes, it will as apache is erroring
[00:23] <codepython777> ikonia: what happens when one runs that on top of setuptools from package manager?
[00:23] <ikonia> codepython777: you shouldn't do that
[00:24] <codepython777> ikonia: if i do pip install ansible - it complains
[00:24] <ikonia> then don't do that
[00:24] <ikonia> stop using pip
[00:24] <ikonia> use the ubuntu package manager
[00:25] <saitoh183> ikonia: nginx log also has the 302 error in access log...i turned on debug for error log...
[00:25] <ikonia> saitoh183: ok, so do the same on the ngnix server
[00:26] <alekzanther> don't know if this is the place to ask, but is there a "store" or GUI of some kind for snap packages?
[00:28] <saitoh183> ikonia: i turned it on for the ngnix error log but the thing is that i dont know what im looking for..lol
[00:28] <ikonia> why is that funny ?
[00:29] <ikonia> if you don't know how to read the log files, I suggest you read up on it, or get some tips from the ngnix channel
[00:31] <saitoh183> ikonia: well i mean what to look for that would point to why this vhost is acting this way and all the others work
[00:31] <ikonia> saitoh183: read the error log, the error log will show you what it's trying to hit and why it's erroring, then work out why that situation is happening
[00:36] <saitoh183> ikonia: i guess i will check with the nginx channel...the browser error is too many redirects and in the log i see the same request coming in over and over but dont see what is causing it
[00:37] <ikonia> probably a redirect loop
[00:38] <alekzanther> sounds like it
[00:39] <saitoh183> ikonia: yeah but what is causing it is what i cant figure out
[00:39] <ikonia> read the log
[00:39] <ikonia> the log will show whats been called
[00:39] <ikonia> then look at that "call" in relation to how the config will serve it up
[00:39] <ikonia> work it through
[00:56] <maestrojed> I am confused. I am a user maestrojed and I am in the group www-data. I have a file that is owned by www-data:www-data. When I, as maestrojed try to rm it I get permission denied. The directory that the file is in has permission drwxrwxr-x.  The file has permissions  -rw-rw-r--
[01:00] <Blakes5> maestrojed, I'm no wiz on linux permissions but I believe there are only two people who can remove it, root and the owner. Try chown
[01:00] <Blakes5> then try to remove it.
[01:01] <maestrojed> Blakes5 ok
[01:01] <alekzanther> maybe the www-data user took ownership of the file, instead of the group? I'm no expert either :P
[01:03] <linuxmodder> ANYONE that  runs / works with the keyserver.ubuntu.com in channel if not anyone know where to get ahold of them?
[01:07] <Guest47621> hey guys. new to ubuntu, come from another distro. i can't seem to install the openvpn plugins for networkmanager. ubuntu software shows nothing
[01:07] <Guest47621> how can i do this?
[01:07] <Guest47621> i found tutorials on how to setup an openvpn server, but i just need the client end to i can CONNECT to a VPN service
[01:08] <Guest47621> :(
[01:08] <Guest47621> i am totally lost
[01:08] <Guest47621> my only option is PPTP it would appear
[01:08] <Guest47621> i enabled all the extra repositories as well
[01:08] <Guest47621> what am i doing wrong?
[01:09] <alekzanther> have you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN ?
[01:09] <Guest47621> yep. got that tab open already
[01:10] <Guest47621> installing the server.. is that what i want to do?
[01:10] <Guest47621> i don't want to run an openvpn server, i just wnat to connect to one
[01:10] <Guest47621> this is why i am lost
[01:11] <Guest47621> guess i'll keep searching for now
[01:12] <alekzanther> well I guess you've found the tutorials I've already found
[01:12] <Guest47621> yea
[01:12] <Guest47621> thanks :(
[01:12] <Guest47621> this was so easy in fedora distros, i could just do it all in the GUI
[01:12] <alekzanther> do you have a .ovpn-file?
[01:12] <Guest47621> i figured Ubuntu being Ubuntu, you know, that it would be a breeze
[01:13] <Guest47621> i have a file from the vpn service
[01:13] <Guest47621> that needs to be imported
[01:13] <alekzanther> this url seems to hint at something in that direction: http://askubuntu.com/questions/460871/how-to-setup-openvpn-client
[01:13] <Guest47621> it worked ginebut i just need the OpenVPN option to show up in NM
[01:14] <alekzanther> ah
[01:14] <Guest47621> i get so frustrated and impatient at tasks that should be much easier than they are
[01:14] <Guest47621> alekzanther: checking that link now lets see what it holds :P
[01:15] <alekzanther> well you said you already got it to work, but that you also want it to show up in NM-dropdown i guess
[01:15] <Guest47621> no no. i had it working on other distros
[01:15] <alekzanther> oh okay
[01:15] <Guest47621> like, in mint, Synaptic let me do it
[01:15] <Guest47621> i don't seem to have that on ubuntu for some reason
[01:15] <Guest47621> and Ubuntu Software is not showing me anything openvpn related
[01:16] <Guest47621> tfw i should have just stuck with mint
[01:16] <Guest47621> :(
[01:16] <Guest47621> i got myself into this one i guess
[01:17] <Guest47621> the thing is i want to do it in the GUI, not from the CLI
[01:17] <alekzanther> yeah
[01:17] <Guest47621> ubuntu seems to do everything else for me, short of wiping my ass
[01:17] <alekzanther> well openvpn may not be ubuntus finest hour, but there are some fine hours otherwise
[01:17] <alekzanther> also, have you restarted the networkmanager after installing openvpn?
[01:18] <Guest47621> yea i was really looking forward to trying out unit
[01:18] <Guest47621> i want to install openvpn from the GUI, if i can't even do that, then ubuntu is not for me
[01:18] <Guest47621> i avoid the CLI as much as possible
[01:18] <alekzanther> hold on
[01:18] <Guest47621> i got tired of the breakage in arch-based distros
[01:20] <Guest47621> is Ubuntu Software the ONLY GUI package manager i can use here?
[01:20] <alekzanther> nope
[01:20] <SchrodingersScat> !info synaptic | Guest47621
[01:21] <SchrodingersScat> !ohmy | Guest47621, also this.
[01:21] <alekzanther> also, the package you'd want is network-manager-openvpn-gnome
[01:21] <alekzanther> so "sudo apt-get network-manager-openvpn-gnome"
[01:21]  * Guest47621 composes himself
[01:21] <Guest47621> my apologies
[01:21] <alekzanther> *** so "sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn-gnome"
[01:21] <Guest47621> severe agitation from distro hopping has me at my worst :(
[01:21] <linuxfool> Hello everyone. Can I use dnsmasq as a total replacement for network manager? I'm trying to use dnsmasq as a server to PXE boot some clients and I think there is some conflict between netowrk manager and dnsmasq.
[01:22] <Guest47621> SchrodingersScat: besides Synaptic, and without using the CLI, is there really no other way to achieve this?
[01:22] <Guest47621> if not, then synaptic it will be! lol
[01:23] <alekzanther> you know which package to get right?
[01:24] <SchrodingersScat> !packages
[01:24] <SchrodingersScat> Guest47621: those are the only two gui i know of, the software center and synaptic.  hypothetically they both use an apt backend anyway.
[01:25] <Guest47621> alekzanther: sorry just saw the link you posted. the webchat makes it very difficult to see as i am usually on Hex :(
[01:25] <Guest47621> thanks
[01:25] <Guest47621> SchrodingersScat: and i can't force Ubuntu Software to show those additional programs?
[01:25] <Guest47621> i mean i would love to do it all in one place, that would be awesome
[01:26] <SchrodingersScat> i don't use software center idk what you're talking about, learn to love apt pls
[01:27] <alekzanther> well, there's a very good store made by the ubuntu mate team as well, called the software boutique
[01:27] <alekzanther> the package is called ubuntu-mate-welcome
[01:27] <Guest47621> SchrodingersScat and alekzanther: thank you both for clarifying this for me. i can stop obsessing now and looking for something that isn't there haha
[01:27] <Guest47621> i will carry on now :)
[01:28] <alekzanther> install the software boutique
[01:28] <alekzanther> it has spotify and kinds of stuff in there for you to just press to install
[01:28] <Guest47621> ahhh alright i will have a look at that for sure. first time hearing of it
[01:29] <alekzanther> works with snaps, apts and all kinds of 3rd party ways of getting the right software to your computer
[01:29] <alekzanther> like steam, skype, etc
[01:29] <Guest47621> :D
[01:29] <linuxmodder> ANYONE that  runs / works with the keyserver.ubuntu.com in channel if not anyone know where to get ahold of them?
[01:30] <alekzanther> did you get the network manager to show openvpn btw?
[01:31] <Guest47621> alekzanther: one sec. trying now
[01:32] <alekzanther> I got mine to show it now by that package install so :)
[01:32] <SkyAbove> hello there
[01:32]  * alekzanther likes reproducible stuff
[01:33] <alekzanther> SkyAbove, hi!
[01:33] <Guest47621> alekzanther: yes!! ty
[01:33] <Guest47621> now let me try to import my VPN file and see how that goes
[01:33] <Guest47621> whole new can of worms :P
[01:33] <alekzanther> :O
[01:33]  * alekzanther is almost scared
[01:36] <Guest47621> The file 'cryptofree_linux-udp.ovpn' could not be read or does not contain recognized VPN connection information
[01:36] <Guest47621> :(
[01:37] <Guest47621> why... why must it be so difficult.. i just can't comprehend
[01:37] <Guest47621> sometimes i miss winbl0wz for these reasons
[01:38] <Guest47621> wait
[01:39] <Guest47621> alekzanther: my mistake. i selected the wrong file
[01:39] <Guest47621> it WORKS now... thank you
[01:40] <linuxfool> Hello everyone. Can I use dnsmasq as a total replacement for network manager? I'm trying to use dnsmasq as a server to PXE boot some clients and I think there is some conflict between netowrk manager and dnsmasq.
[01:40] <yapimci34> geveze.org
[01:40] <yapimci34> fsf
[01:40] <yapimci34> sdada
[01:40] <yapimci34> sd
[01:41] <Guest47621> lol. looks like im not the only one with frustration :P
[01:42] <SkyBellow> hello
[01:42] <SkyBellow> how install ubuntu together with windows??
[01:43] <Guest47621> i didn't install my anything linux besides windows. i got rid of windows. windows is the biggest NSA spyware program in existence
[01:44] <Guest47621> plus my HD is free to hold more now :)
[01:44] <Guest47621> ok off to use my VPN connection now
[01:44] <Guest47621> thx again guys
[01:44] <jon_> hello.  using 1604 on a lenovo yoga 13 everything working fine but it is not recognizing track pad at all
[01:45] <jon_> but it did early on.  something changed, i think when i typed restart x
[01:45] <jon_> is there a way to rebuild the parts of this that look for the trackpad?  it is not showing up at all in xinput
[01:45] <quizzy85> SkyBellow: Dual boot
[01:46] <alekzanther> Guest47621, so it worked out fine?
[01:46] <alekzanther> nooice
[01:46] <Guest47621> alekzanther: absolutely. i hate this webchat though. hurts my eyes and i can barely see who is addressing me
[01:46] <quizzy85> SkyBellow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[01:46] <Guest47621> gonna get my hexchat installed next with my nice dark background
[01:47] <alekzanther> nice
[01:47] <quizzy85> Guest47621: PokieGo is the latest and greatest free spying tool
[01:47] <Guest47621> alekzanther: i still think it should have been simpler. without you telling me the name of that package to install, not sure where i'd be by now
[01:47] <Guest47621> quizzy85: i don't own a smart phone
[01:48] <Guest47621> only one at work with a fliip phone still
[01:48] <Guest47621> they say i'm dumb, jsut like my phone and call it a dumb phone lol
[01:48] <Guest47621> do i care? nope.. i don't pay for the bill
[01:48] <quizzy85> good man
[01:49] <bilb_ono> does anyone know where the update-initramfs package comes from?
[01:49] <Guest47621> i do get irritated though when i need to look something up away from home... and having to CALL someone to SEARCH GOOGLE for me
[01:49] <bilb_ono> like when I am told to do sudo updpate-initramfs -u
[01:49] <Guest47621> that is what i don't like
[01:49] <bilb_ono> I always get this: sudo: updpate-initramfs: command not found  even though I have done sudo apt-get install  initramfs-tools successfully
[01:50] <bilb_ono> arghh typos
[01:50] <bilb_ono> ok nvm
[01:50] <Guest47621> quizzy85: i will pass that message on to my coworkers though. i don't understand why ADULTS find such pleasure in such a ridiculous game
[01:51] <Guest47621> alekzanther: i did say thank you if you didn't catch it. i don't want to be rude
[01:51] <Guest47621> before i go hehe
[01:51] <quizzy85> Guest47621: Im going to start .jpg shaming 30+ Pokie fools. Website to come
[01:52] <Guest47621> haha very nice :)
[01:52] <jon_> can i install fresh ubuntu from a stick and not lose any of the data that exists on current install?
[01:53] <alekzanther> Guest47621, well the power of your installation is that you own it now. also, I've never used openvpn myself and I still kind of helped you through it, so it's just a matter of using the system long enough - like "winbl0wz" familiarity. also, there's not a "winbl0wz" freenode irc chat for you to ask questions I think :)
[01:53] <alekzanther> damn it all, effort wasted
[01:55] <SkyBellow> Is Ubuntu really good?
[01:56] <SkyBellow> I mean... the best distribution?
[01:56] <tortib> If you want a working linux distro that most stuff works OOB then yes
[01:56] <tatertots> @jon you want to (re)install ubuntu from usb stick without losing data that you have on the hard drive in the "existing" ubuntu installation?
[01:57] <quizzy85> SkyBellow: You got the .iso free right so there is a benefit already right. Most things can be done in GUI but make Terminal your friend.
[01:58] <tatertots> SkyBellow the term/phrase 'best' is subjective
[01:59] <tatertots> the ford f-250 beats the Lamborghini in the race when 2 tons are attached to the back of both vehicles ...remove the 2 tons and the Lamborghini beats the ford f-250
[02:00] <alekzanther> SkyBellow, I've used arch, debian, opensuse, fedora, manjaro... and I still fall back to ubuntu because for some reason steam works best there :P
[02:01] <tatertots> see so in the context of that race one can't simply say "well the Lamborghini is best" without knowing if the cars will have to haul a 2 ton load or not during the race
[02:03] <alekzanther> tatertots, that's not the best metaphor but... i'll let it slide
[02:05] <linuxfool> Can I used dnsmasq as a total replacement for network manager?
[02:05] <alekzanther> linuxfool, OK let's get an answer to your question then
[02:07] <alekzanther> linuxfool, nope... they serve different purposes i guess: https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/dnsmasq#Local_Caching_using_NetworkManager
[02:08] <marco^> can somebody help me with getting my encrypted ubuntu to boot? grub couldn't find the boot partition and know after i changed some stuff i get a kernel panic - not syncing. http://pastebin.com/rNMZf1yD
[02:08] <linuxfool> Thanks, alekzanther. Does network manager do anything that can't be done with built-in commands on the command line? I'm going to be running a wired LAN that's not connected to the internet.
[02:09] <linuxfool> And the whole purpose on the LAN is just to boot up some diskless clients.
[02:13] <alekzanther> I'm not sure what you're aiming at with the network manager, but it seems dnsmasq can act as a dns forwarder and dhcp host... it can serve names if local machines which are not in the gateway/router dns etc
[02:13] <hiexpo> oops why'd you encrypt the boot looder
[02:14] <hiexpo> back to the drawing board
[02:15] <hiexpo> reinstall
[02:16] <hiexpo> Marco, what made you Encrypt the boot loader?
[02:17] <alekzanther> linuxfool, it seems you'd like a server to act as an dhcp/dns host and forward the clients to the correct server with the image files to boot from I guess
[02:17] <marco^> did i encrypt the boot loader? my /boot partition is ext2 and not encrypted
[02:18] <alekzanther> just do it then, shouldn't be too hard since you already got yourself in the position of having some thin clients waiting to boot
[02:18] <alekzanther> marco^, got any other linux distro on the disk you could boot to?
[02:19] <marco^> i'm currently on a live usb stick
[02:20] <alekzanther> you should try to update-grub
[02:20] <alekzanther> maybe this link can help you out http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd
[02:20] <linuxfool> alekzanther: Correct. I can't tell if network manager is the problem or something else. Sometimes is works and other times it doesn't.
[02:20] <marco^> i already did that using chroot and it displayed no error
[02:21] <alekzanther> marco^, did you mount the drives as stated in the link?
[02:22] <marco^> yes i used that exact askubuntu answer a few minutes ago
[02:23] <alekzanther> and what does it say when you run update-grub then?
[02:24] <alekzanther> and have you followed that tutorial to the letter?
[02:25] <marco^> yes i printed some boot options ending with windows (loader) if i remember correctly. i'll try that once more
[02:25] <alekzanther> linuxfool, how is the network setup? Are there more than one DHCP-servers in the network? what does it say when it doesn't work? "Can't reach local-domain-name blabla" or just a connection error?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> linuxfool: In your given situation, why do you even need a network-manager ? I run a stationary desktop .. and I manage networking my self .. no need of a fancy manager here .
[02:28] <marco^> alekzanther: here are the results from update-grub http://pastebin.com/P3itpDkf
[02:28] <alekzanther> He doesn't need it, he's just troubleshooting
[02:29] <alekzanther> marco^, are you sure you have the correct boot order in bios/uefi? :)
[02:31] <marco^> well yes it's booting from my harddrive into grub, then i select ubuntu, i type in the password to unlock 'swap' and then it shows me a busybox prompt
[02:32] <marco^> or atleast it did that before, now it show me a kernel panic before i can type in the pw probably because i messed with fstab/crypttab
[02:33] <alekzanther> oh
[02:33] <linuxfool> alekzanther, Bashing-om , I'm trying to run Porteus Kiosk clients off my ubuntu desktop which is acting as the server. I'm using the script provided by Porteus to get everything running. For example, I've disconnected my internet connection and restarted the network manager then run the script. The script is here: http://pastebin.com/2GtNfavY
[02:33] <alekzanther> what version did you have?
[02:33] <alekzanther> marco^, maybe you experienced this bug then: http://askubuntu.com/questions/616663/after-new-ubuntu-15-04-installation-startup-asks-for-password-even-though-no-di
[02:34] <linuxfool> After I run everything the server simply doesn't have an IP address. When I assign one to it with "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.143", which is the IP address the clients are supposed to look for for their PXE boot, the boot fails.
[02:34] <linuxfool> When I plug the internet connection back up, it will work sometimes, but not everytime.
[02:35] <marco^> no i'm expecting it to ask me for a pw because i installed ubuntu on an encrypted luks partition (following this guide: http://thesimplecomputer.info/full-disk-encryption-with-ubuntu)
[02:35] <linuxfool> And it only works when I retart network manager
[02:38] <alekzanther> linuxfool, I'm definitely no expert and I don't think I can dig any further than you in this, sorry
[02:39] <linuxfool> Thanks for the effot, alekzanther
[02:40] <alekzanther> marco^, maybe it got f***ed up when you fiddled with fstab etc?
[02:41] <alekzanther> linuxfool, the kiosks are aimed at talking to some DNS?
[02:42] <marco^> alekzanther:  yeah maybe, i'll probably just reinstall ubuntu. thanks for your help :)
[02:42] <alekzanther> marco^, hope you get a better experience next run :)
[02:43] <ningu> if I have a package installed that is newer than the current apt sources list, is there a way to tell apt-get to remove it and install the latest that it knows about?
[02:43] <ningu> I mean an automatic, non-manual way
[02:44] <heya> apt-get update
[02:44] <ningu> what about it?
[02:44] <ningu> I've done that already
[02:46] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | ningu
[02:46] <ningu> ubottu: ok, but it isn't a ppa
[02:46] <ningu> haha
[02:46] <SchrodingersScat> ningu: just uninstall it?
[02:46] <ningu> SchrodingersScat: yes, I will do that
[02:46] <ningu> I was just wondering if there was a better way, that's all
[02:47] <SchrodingersScat> I don't think you need anything special to remove a package and not install a version that apt doesn't know about
[02:47] <Bashing-om> ningu: Then that begs the question, how you got an elevated version installed ?
[02:47] <SchrodingersScat> voodoo
[02:47] <ningu> Bashing-om: I was testing a beta version of postgresql and now I want to go back to the 9.5 version of libpq. I can do it manually, the question was not how to do it at all but how to do it by only specifying the package names and nothing about the specific versions
[02:48] <ningu> apt should be able to know what the latest libpq is in its sources list and install that. but apparently it isn't any sort of default-supported option so I'd have to script it
[02:50] <Bashing-om> CLI is your feoend .. but if ya got synaptic installed .. synaptic should be able to handle removing a package that the package manager is aware of .
[02:50] <Bashing-om> friend*
[02:51] <ningu> of course, you're missing the point. why should I have to look up the latest version of libpq and whatever other packages and copy/paste it? it's clearly something that could be automated and I wanted to know if someone had already done it
[02:51] <ningu> but since they haven't I will just write something myself, probably
[03:15] <hanasaki> running thunderbird and have a self signed ssl for my personal imap server.  thunderbird pops up and asks if I want to accept the ssl cert.  when I click "confirm" nothing happens the dialog box stays up.  How can the cert be added?  same issue if I goto the prefernces and try to accept
[03:39] <lickalott> ducasse, you still awake?
[03:40] <lickalott> just got back
[03:41] <tortib> is there a cron gui?
[03:41] <tortib> for gnome
[03:42] <lickalott> anyone have any idea why 3 other systems (all different OS's) would be able to mount an NFS share except my ubuntu laptop?  I just had to rebuild the server and re-share out the folders.  Is there some caching that happens with NFS on the client side??
[03:42] <lickalott> just FYI; it works via windows, fedora, debian (raspberry pi) and android.  But for some reason Ubuntu is giving me the finger for that 1 path.
[03:43] <lickalott> because I have to run the mount command as sudo (root), I'm thinking it's something having to do with root access to that particular folder?  I did chown it.
[03:59] <snkcld> what is the differnece between "debian" and the "debian.master" directory in the ubuntu-xenial repo?
[04:08] <ak48> join
[04:08] <ak48> #join
[04:11] <Guest74306> Hey
[04:12] <Guest74306> guys i have a problem
[04:12] <Guest74306> I turned on my pc and there was a power blackout and thundering so i plugged all the cables but the system wont shut down
[04:12] <lickalott> ak48, you need help?
[04:13] <lickalott> Guest74306, huh?
[04:13] <Guest74306> I pressed the power button and plugged off all the cables but it is still working
[04:13] <Guest74306> how do i kill it?
[04:13] <theskillwithin> you unplugged the power cord?
[04:13] <lickalott> Guest74306, sudo init 0
[04:14] <lickalott> inside a terminal
[04:14] <lickalott> ak48,  /j #INSERTCHANNAMEHERE
[04:14] <tatertots> if it's still powered on without being plugged into electrical power don't worry about it, it'll be fine
[04:14] <lickalott> space between the j and #
[04:14]  * lickalott giggles at tatertots
[04:15] <Guest74306> it asks for a password but i do not have it
[04:16] <tatertots> laptop or desktop?
[04:16] <Guest74306> please i need to get this out of the store before the owner comes back
[04:16] <Guest74306> laptop
[04:16] <tatertots> and your goal is to have it in a powered off state correct?
[04:17] <tatertots> yes/no?
[04:17] <Guest74306> yes or it will heat up in my bag
[04:17] <lickalott> Guest74306, is it an ubuntu laptop?
[04:17] <Guest74306> yes
[04:17] <tatertots> remove the battery
[04:17] <lickalott> do what I just saud
[04:17] <lickalott> *said
[04:17] <lickalott> open a terminal and type sudo init 0
[04:17] <lickalott> it will shut it down
[04:17] <lickalott> else hold the power button for 10 - 15 secs
[04:17] <Guest74306> it says enter password for username
[04:18] <tatertots> without being plugged into a electrical wall outlet and without a battery a laptop cannot remain powered up.
[04:18] <lickalott> ^^
[04:18] <tatertots> REMOVE THE BATTERY
[04:18] <lickalott> ^^
[04:18] <Guest74306> do i need to open up the laptop and take out the cmos battery?
[04:18] <lickalott> oh...tater it may be one of those newer ones (i.e. sager/clevo) that have the battery screwed in.
[04:19] <Guest74306> wait i will get a screwdriver . owner must have kept one somewhere. its dark and i have to take this before he comes back
[04:19] <lickalott> tatertots, i feel like we could be accessories to a robbery at this point.
[04:19] <Guest74306> o shit shit shit hes back time to go yolo
[04:20] <lickalott> cfhowlett, I need your brain brother
[04:20] <cfhowlett> lickalott, details?
[04:21] <Aaron> what a thief;
[04:21] <lickalott> server with NFS shares.  ubuntu laptop will mount 2 of the 3.  I get errors when mounting the 3rd (will provide the error shortly).  THe biggest difference is the 2 that work are zpools on the server.  THe 3rd is the Downloads dir from my server profile path.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> lickalott, I have no experience whatever with zpools, servers or shares.  perhaps #ubuntuserver channel?
[04:22] <theskillwithin> dang my sound is all messed up.   so the headphone jack only works when I both plugin my headphones to the headphon jack AND plugin something to the output jack which seems to detect the switch then outputs sound to the headphone jack
[04:23] <lickalott> k.  I'll check them out.   Reason I'm asking here is; windows works, android works, Fedora works, and debian/raspberry pi works.   It's only my ubuntu laptop that is giving me the finger
[04:23] <theskillwithin> I guess its not familiar with the mac pro sound setup
[04:24] <cfhowlett> !mac | theskillwithin the mac folk might be a more helpful resource.
[04:24] <cfhowlett> theskillwithin, fwiw, my mac air puts out sound with no issues on ubuntu
[04:30] <RonWhoCares> The last upgrade to my computer caused the external monitor resolution to be limited at 1024 x 768.  Any idea how to undo this?  I am using Ubuntu 16.04
[04:34] <lickalott> cfhowlett, just got it!  FYSA  - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/nfs-access-denied-by-server-while-mounting-934161/.  because you have to run the mount command with sudo you have to have no_root_squash in the hosts /etc/exports file or it won't allow the execution as sudo.
[04:35] <cfhowlett> lickalott, yeah, sorry mate.  ask the #ubuntuserver channel.  too far above my pay grade to help
[04:35] <lickalott> I got it figured out.  I was just information sharing
[04:36] <renee> a pop up saying update information comes up and says this:Failure to download extra data files
[04:36] <renee> The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed.
[04:36] <renee> ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[04:36] <renee> The download will be attempted again later, or you can try the download again now.  Running this command requires an active Internet connection.
[04:37] <renee> ttf-mscorefonts-installer?
[04:43] <ramrebol> Hi. I need to download flash from https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer (to watch facebook videos on firefox), but I can't download the file from that link because ask me some launch application. How can I get the file?
[04:45] <ramrebol> please, try to download flash from adove website, it is impossible :/
[04:46] <cfhowlett> !flash | ramrebol
[04:52] <ramrebol> cfhowlett: thank! now its working :)
[04:52] <cfhowlett> ramrebol, happy2help!
[04:56] <RudyValencia> So I'm trying to set up Linux as an alternative to VMware ESXi, what is a good frontend for KVM that doesn't require an X session?
[05:01] <cfhowlett> renee, you attempted to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras.  you do not HAVE to accept the MS files.  ( I do not).  Outcome will be that websites and documents using MS fonts will trigger a linux alternative font instead, possibly effecting the final rendering
[05:01] <snkcld> RudyValencia: virsh does not require X, afai
[05:02] <iAshay> anyone using ubuntu cloud
[05:02] <RudyValencia> snkcld: I want a GUI not a CLI
[05:02] <renee> cfhowlett, Oh..thanks :)
[05:02] <snkcld> you want a GUI... without X?
[05:02] <RudyValencia> Like a Web UI or something I can use from Windows
[05:03] <cfhowlett> iAshay, "is anyone ..." questions waste time and bandwidth.  state your issues.
[05:03] <snkcld> RudyValencia: ah, i wish i knew of one like that
[05:09] <cfhowlett> -iAshay ask #ubuntuserver channel
[05:10] <iAshay_> are there any command line clients for google search
[05:12] <elbow> hi
[05:13] <Loshki> iAshay: cli-google
[05:28] <gry> Loshki: thank you, cunning
[05:42] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[05:42] <CountryfiedLinux> Can I add a different application menu to Plasma 5 or are the 2 default options the only 2 available?
[06:09] <xubuntu> what does 'iF' mean in dpkg -l
[06:13] <torpet> is someone here from the ubuntu gnome team?
[06:14] <torpet> will the gnome3 ppa make it into 16.04.1?
[06:23] <ducasse> torpet: no, it is just a point release
[06:24] <torpet> ducasse: i mean this one (https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3?field.series_filter=xenial), not the staging ppa
[06:25] <ducasse> torpet: there will be updates, but not any new software as none is added after a release. only bug and security fixes.
[06:28] <robert__> #list
[06:31] <frib> my unity control center has no printer icon what can I do ?
[06:33] <tatertots> don't you hate you spend lots of time getting ubuntu the way you want it ...then you apt get update/upgrade and it just trashes all the work you did
[06:33] <tatertots> #ihatechange
[06:33] <torpet> ducasse :so 3.18.2 -> 3.18.3 counts as upgrade?
[06:34] <torpet> it's technically still the same major version
[06:34] <specialedge> i like when i try to fix my ssh keys for my various local clients and when i get home from work discover i've locked myself out of the remote server
[06:35] <ducasse> torpet: not sure about that particular package, but no new package versions are introduced except under special circumstances.
[06:36] <specialedge> this makes a perfect opportunity to learn how to script my installation/configuration i suppose...
[06:39] <frib> i can't connect to cups server what should I do ?
[06:40] <tatertots> how are you trying to connect to it?.....did you reboot yet?
[06:42] <frib> tatertots, i get "unit.cups service is masked"
[06:42] <frib> http://localhost:631 shows nothing
[06:42] <frib> unable to connect
[06:43] <frib> ● cups.service
[06:43] <frib>    Loaded: masked (/dev/null; bad)
[06:43] <frib>    Active: inactive (dead)
[06:46] <Guest80196> Hi everyone, how can we change the Radeon driver option e.g "TearFree" in Ubuntu 16.04?
[06:50] <tatertots> have you tried restarting the service?...have you tried to unmask the service?
[06:57] <Dead_Office> I'm working on Ubuntu 16.04 and still can't install third party .deb packages although they said they have fixed the problem . How do I fix this ?
[06:58] <Dead_Office> When I double click on a .deb file Ubuntu software pops up . The I hit install and nothing happens
[06:59] <Dead_Office> The=Then*
[06:59] <ducasse> Dead_Office: install gdebi, and use that to install .debs
[07:01] <ahrc333ff> Dead_Office: the command line utility for installing .deb files is 'dpkg'. Type dpkg --help for more info.
[07:02] <tob12> Hi guys. Is there a way to sudo apt-get from a specific source (specifically PPA)? I'm trying to install a package from a PPA & I believe sudo apt-get is grabbing the package from the main repos
[07:02] <Dead_Office> ducasse, gdebi keeps reporting missing dependences .
[07:02] <ducasse> tob12: you can specify the package version
[07:02] <Dead_Office> ahrc333ff, I try it
[07:03] <ducasse> Dead_Office: gdebi should install those, are you sure that package is for your ubuntu version?
[07:03] <tob12> Aha, thanks
[07:04] <Dead_Office> ducasse, it for Debian that's for sure . e.g https://github.com/adobe/brackets/releases/download/release-1.7/Brackets.Release.1.7.64-bit.deb
[07:05] <Dead_Office> it's*
[07:05] <ducasse> Dead_Office: ubuntu isn't debian, is it?
[07:05] <Dead_Office> isn't the core lol ? Anyway it's .deb file pardon my ignorance
[07:06] <Dead_Office> isn't it*
[07:06] <ducasse> Dead_Office: if your ubuntu version doesn't have the dependencies then you can't install it.
[07:06] <ducasse> Dead_Office: ubuntu is _based_ on debian, they are not the same.
[07:08] <Dead_Office> ducasse, Brother .deb files not installing using Ubuntu software . I need help I'm sorry but I'm not good with dem terminologies
[07:09] <tatertots> my ISP needs to get it together
[07:10] <ducasse> Dead_Office: find out which ubuntu version the package is for and install that, or get a version that is built for your ubuntu version.
[07:11] <Dead_Office> ducasse, Gimme an example of a package that ubuntu software must be able to install just to make sure that ubuntu software isn't the problem
[07:12] <ducasse> Dead_Office: if it says missing dependencies, then ubuntu software is not the problem.
[07:14] <Dead_Office> ducasse, Sir yes sir . Ubuntu software wasn't the one reporting the missing dependences it was gdebi
[07:14] <Dead_Office> ducasse, I have a lot to learn . Thanks for your time brother
[07:14] <ducasse> Dead_Office: same thing. the download page doesn't say which ubuntu version(s) it should run on, i suggest you ask them.
[07:15] <SkyBellow> Is IRC still used inside companies?
[07:16] <Dead_Office> ducasse, Correct just saw it here https://github.com/adobe/brackets/issues/12380
[07:16] <Dead_Office> ducasse, I thought it was ubuntu software lol
[07:18] <Dead_Office> Living on the edge is always hard . I probably should get Ubuntu 1.04 (JK god damnit don't get angry on me now. Shieet )
[07:18] <ikonia> Dead_Office: stop trying to swear please
[07:19] <Dead_Office> ikonia, Sorry I'll shut up now
[07:35] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 no sound
[07:39] <ankit> please help anyone
[07:40] <ankit> anyone???
[07:41] <tatertots> hi ankit
[07:41] <ankit> hi
[07:41] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 no sound
[07:41] <tatertots> even after a reboot?
[07:41] <ankit> yes
[07:42] <Aaron> add your username to the sound group
[07:42] <ankit> how to add username??
[07:45] <ankit> what should be username???
[07:45] <seanballais> sudo addgroup <username> audio
[07:46] <seanballais> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[07:46] <Aaron> ankit, the user name you currently use
[07:46] <Aaron> in the system;
[07:46] <ankit> i don't know which username
[07:47] <ankit> username to login into laptop???
[07:47] <Aaron> yes
[07:49] <ankit> user is already a member of audio :)
[07:50] <ankit> no luck :(
[07:51] <|avalon|> was that from the very begining or suddenly stop working?
[07:52] <ankit> after upgrade to 16.04
[07:53] <Loshki> !manual
[07:55] <ankit> avalon no sound:(
[07:57] <|avalon|> idk, really
[07:58] <|avalon|> fresh install?
[07:58] <|avalon|> that could be solution...
[08:12] <Pandra> Hello, Im having trouble understanding VNC - I would like to have a screen of the VNC (that has root access) to be shared to more then one location so that users can control but have no access to the sudo password; could i have links or directions please?
[08:17] <ahrc333ff> Pandra: If you give root access to the VNC instance,  users will have root level priveleges and can do and modify anything in the computer.
[08:17] <avis-> people in italy need to access my freenode profile.   further everyone knows my name, by my dropbox profile (logs) -- who are legit.  what tools that are gtk or passing can be used to parse regular information for these purposes ?
[08:18] <avis-> oops FACEBOOK
[08:19] <Pandra> ahrc333ff: when i say root access i mean an account that has root access but requires a password
[08:20] <Pandra> Pardon me, i need to go eat dinner
[08:24] <ahrc333ff> Pandra: I haven't used VNC on *nix in a while as I do all of my work from the terminal. But, it's a server and you can setup for multiple users. To the best of my knowledge, the user who logs on should retain their priveleges. So, if 'joe' is a sudoer on the local machine, he also should be when he logs onto via a VNC client.
[08:24] <computer> people, do you get mouse lagging in ubuntu? especially after writing text?
[08:27] <[[thufir]]> I have purged asterisk, and ran auto-remove, but re-installing asterisk still gives me an empty /etc/asterisk directory.  can I "run" asterisk-config package somehow?
[08:31] <ahrc333ff> computer: sorry, i haven't experienced this issue
[08:43] <edenroz> Hello, i need a ligh usb ubuntu install, something like lubuntu, that has to work on my desktop and on my laptop. I have a 64gb usb3.0 stick. I was wondering beetwen a normal install and a persistent live install. I'll have to runs VMs, c code with OpenMPI and 64bit simulation. Currently my external hd drives with ubuntu is dying so i need to switxch fast
[08:44] <ikonia> so neither of those options are good options
[08:44] <edenroz> ikonia: I would hate two full instal on the 2 laptop
[08:44] <ikonia> thats up to you,
[08:45] <ikonia> but running from an external USB device and running VM's is a bad idea, running a live persistant setup and doing that is even worse
[08:45] <edenroz> ikonia: with this usb3.0 hd external install i was running very good, a bit sloow but okay
[08:45] <ikonia> I disagree, but if you're happy with that, just do the same again
[08:45] <ikonia> it's going to be very slow running from a usb stick
[08:46] <edenroz> ikonia: am open to suggestion
[08:46] <ikonia> install ubuntu properly
[08:46] <edenroz> ikonia: even if usb 3.0?
[08:46] <ikonia> yes, even usb3 , usb 3 is the interface, the usb stick is still slow
[08:46] <edenroz> ikonia: i get something aroun 40 50 mbs
[08:47] <ikonia> you wont get that running the OS
[08:47] <ikonia> but if you disagree, just get on and start doing it
[08:47] <edenroz> ikonia: i see
[08:47] <edenroz> ikonia: the problem is i cannot tamper with the laptop hd
[08:47] <ikonia> why ?
[08:47] <edenroz> ikonia: it has a warranty and a payed copy of win7
[08:48] <ikonia> installing ubuntu won't impact the warrenty
[08:48] <ikonia> and don't delete windows, dual boot it
[08:48] <suraj> hiiii
[08:49] <edenroz> ikonia: am worried about future problem if i decide to take that "free-as-prison" win 10 upgrade
[08:49] <ikonia> it will not impact your upgrade
[08:49] <suraj> ping edenroz
[08:49] <edenroz> suraj: hi
[08:49] <ikonia> if you boot windows, you boot windows exactly the same as you do now
[08:50] <edenroz> ikonia: doesnt win10 tamper with partition table?
[08:50] <suraj> i have problem with my wifi driver on ubuntu mate
[08:50] <ikonia> edenroz: no
[08:50] <Pandra> ahrc333ff: Oh ok.. well all i really want is for a user to access the desktop remotely. Kind of like teamviewer.
[08:52] <ducasse> Pandra: any user that logs in to that account via vnc will be able to run sudo if the account has access to it
[08:54] <mantis_> hi
[08:54] <mantis_> h r u
[08:55] <ahrc333ff> Pandra: How many users? if it's a few, just give each of them a server on a specified port. if there are many, then you have to setup (I believe TightVNC) to dynamically allocate. but it's probably more work
[08:55] <hehe> mantis_: hi
[08:55] <mantis_> hi
[08:58] <bvishal4u> hi
[08:58] <bvishal4u> I wanna know is there any application to connect to VMware infrastructure
[08:58] <bvishal4u> for ubuntu desktop
[08:58] <[[thufir]]> I have purged asterisk, and ran auto-remove, but re-installing asterisk still gives me an empty /etc/asterisk directory.  can I "run" asterisk-config package somehow?
[08:59] <ikonia> bvishal4u: define "connect"
[08:59] <bvishal4u> ikonia i cant understand, how to define connect?
[08:59] <ikonia> bvishal4u: what do you mean by "connect" to vmware infrastructure
[09:01] <Pandra> ahrc333ff: Oh ok.. for me if i do anything it will ask for the sudo password :o ; Right now i only need 4 users to access - You see i have a CLI running (Such as for a game) that may need manual restarts/stopping (ctrl + x kinda thing) - they wont see it if they log into their own instance..?
[09:01] <bvishal4u> ok I am new to Ubuntu
[09:01] <bvishal4u> and as like windows i wanted to access vmware vsphere vcenter server
[09:01] <ikonia> bvishal4u: vsphere is now served up via a web interface
[09:02] <bvishal4u> but our infra is on 4.1 & 5.5 i think i dont have web client for those
[09:02] <ikonia> 5.5 does
[09:02] <bvishal4u> and how about 4.1?
[09:03] <ikonia> bvishal4u: not really
[09:03] <ikonia> you can try running the client in wine, but it really doesn't work properly from my personal experience
[09:04] <specialedge> im getting a Permission denied error when i execute "echo 1 > /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/TLS" in bash
[09:04] <specialedge> does this require a sudo?
[09:04] <ikonia> specialedge: look at the permissions on the file
[09:06] <bvishal4u> thanks ikonia, thanks for your help
[09:07] <ahrc333ff> specialedge: what ikonia says :) if you're unfamiliar with that, "ls -la" will show you the permissions and ownership.
[09:07] <ahrc333ff> for each file
[09:07] <specialedge> jesus and i just installed my VPS from mounted ISO via VNC and i cannot recall it prompting me for root password
[09:08] <specialedge> tears emoji
[09:08] <ikonia> it shouldn't have asked for a root password
[09:08] <ikonia> there is no root password on ubuntu
[09:08] <ahrc333ff> also, it's not necessarily a good habit to get i the habit of using sudo. perhaps giving the pure-ftpd it's own user and giving that user ownership over the file is the way to go. then you would su ftpduser, for example, and you could make the changes.
[09:10] <i_am_alive_here> hi is there NYBODY THAT CAN HELP ME WITH A FULL DISK ENCRYPTION SETUP? NOT GETTING ANYWHERE AT KALI..
[09:10] <i_am_alive_here> sorry
[09:10] <ikonia> i_am_alive_here: why don't support kali here
[09:10] <specialedge> ikonia: so in order to enter a root prompt i use "su -" and it prompts me for a password
[09:10] <ikonia> specialedge: no
[09:10] <i_am_alive_here> anyone know how to full disk after ive allready installed my os
[09:10] <ikonia> specialedge: you use sudo
[09:11] <ikonia> i_am_alive_here: we do not support kali here - please stop asking
[09:11] <ikonia> specialedge: eg: "sudo -i"
[09:11] <ahrc333ff> i_am_alive_here: sorry, i've only done FDE as part of the initial install from a gnu/linux insatll
[09:11] <specialedge> ikonia: thank you very much
[09:11] <i_am_alive_here> same
[09:12] <i_am_alive_here> anyone rec truecrypt despite no longer being supported or any forks that support fde?
[09:12] <specialedge> ahrc333ff: i understand what you're saying and I agree, it's just im following a tut to configure the system services. not even there yet!
[09:13] <ahrc333ff> i_am_alive_here: veracrypt has picked up the reigns
[09:13] <ahrc333ff> specialedge: gotcha :)
[09:13] <ikonia> i_am_alive_here: stop
[09:13] <ikonia> i_am_alive_here: final warning- we will not support your kali setup
[09:15] <ducasse> !kali | i_am_alive_here ask here
[09:15] <i_am_alive_here> im running ubuntu too..im trying to kill to birds with one ston here..so forget my kali question..anyone use veracrypt for a fde on "ubuntu"
[09:17] <Pandra> ahrc333ff: Btw i have tight installed - I havent found much information for sharing the same screen between 2+ users though..
[09:18] <ducasse> i_am_alive_here: we don't support veracrypt either, it's not in the repos
[09:18] <ahrc333ff> Pandra: I'm not sure if you can share the same 'screen'. That would be people fighting over mouse and keyboard input
[09:21] <Dale> hello
[09:21] <Pandra> ahrc333ff: well, tbh they dont need to be on at the same time... just different select users to able to do things on the desktop when necessary- you see i can loginto my account and run the CLI for a game server, I just want them to be able to see the screen and perform simple actions that dont require sudo (So i don't need to share the sudo password) - Ive tried to run teamviewer but that kills my current VNC session
[09:21] <Dale> is anyone able to assist me, i upgraded the kernel on my pc. and now im stuck at the lighdm login manager
[09:22] <Dale> it used to auto boot into kodi.
[09:24] <ducasse> Dale: boot back into the previous kernel
[09:24] <Dale> i did, it dosent work either
[09:25] <Dale> im just stuck at this login screen. which i cant do anything with as remote console access only
[09:26] <ducasse> was anything else upgraded?
[09:26] <Dale> i was trying to upgrade to a 4.2 kernel as i was on a 3.13 one, that was all that was changed
[09:27] <Dale> that didnt work to boot into, so iw ent back to the original kernel. and here is where i am
[09:27] <ducasse> Dale: is this trusty, and you installed the hwe stack?
[09:27] <Dale> $ uname -a
[09:27] <Dale> Linux htpc-livingroom 3.19.0-65-generic #73~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 29 21:05:22 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:28] <ducasse> Dale: did you also upgrade x?
[09:28] <Pandra> ahrc333ff: http://www.tightvnc.com/vncviewer.1.php there is this -shared option, im just not sure how to use it
[09:28] <Dale> no, but i did just reinstall it from a purge just now
[09:28] <Dale> and it didnt help
[09:28] <ducasse> !hwe | Dale
[09:28] <ahrc333ff> Pandra: I was just doing some quick searching, and tigervnc looks a little more user friendly
[09:28] <ducasse> Dale: try installing the updated x as well.
[09:29] <Dale> i just tried
[09:29] <Dale> its the newest version
[09:29] <ducasse> Dale: did you follow the instruction from the link above?
[09:29] <Pandra> ahrc333ff: So i need to uninstall tightvnc on the server and install tiger instead, correct?
[09:29] <Dale> i reading it now
[09:30] <ahrc333ff> pandra: not necessarily, the two can probably exist side by side. but if you wanted to get rid of it that seems reasonble if you're not planning on using it
[09:31] <Dale> is 14.02 on 4.2 now?
[09:31] <Pandra> ahrc333ff: Oh ok.. i will take alook at tigervnc
[09:31] <Dale> 14.04*
[09:31] <ahrc333ff> Pandra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[09:31] <Pandra> ahrc333ff: thanks for your help - i will see what i can do
[09:31] <ahrc333ff> np....
[09:31] <ahrc333ff> FYI. what exactly do they need to do?
[09:31] <ducasse> Dale: the xenial packages are the latest, i think
[09:32] <ahrc333ff> a VNC server might be overkill
[09:32] <Dale> xenial are 4.4 afaik
[09:32] <ahrc333ff> you can forward X11 apps through SSH. so if they just need to move files around, that can actually be done through SSH
[09:32] <ducasse> Dale: yes
[09:32] <ahrc333ff> e.g. you can ssh user@server.com, and once in it type "firefox" and it would launch
[09:33] <Dale> its strange though. i know its not my gpu driver
[09:33] <Dale> nvidia-smi shows current info on the card.
[09:36] <aquarius_> hey, gang. As part of a normal package update, my 14.04 machine has popped up a debconf window saying "Disable UEFI Secure Boot?". The help dialog says that "Secure Boot is not compatible with the use of third party drivers". I don't think I have any third-party drivers; the Additional Drivers window doesn't show any. Why am I being asked to disable Secure Boot, and do I need to do it even though I shouldn't?
[09:38] <Dale> okay  i installed the new kernel
[09:38] <Dale> and x
[09:38] <sacarlson2> aquarius_:  are you running from with a virtual machine?
[09:39] <aquarius_> sacarlson2, no; this is on normal desktop hardware.
[09:39] <Dale> ducasse
[09:41] <SnoopyDgg> Hello! Couldsomebody explaint to me, why my crontab didn't run? '25 9 * * SUN mysqldump -u root -pPASSWORDHERE --all-databases --routines --triggers > alldbs.sql' I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. It runs fine when I do it from SSH.
[09:42] <Pandra> Hello, has anyone used tigthvnc extensively? I found, and quote, "In TightVNC, this is the default mode, allowing you to share the desktop with other clients already using it." But how do i actually do the sharing?
[09:42] <ikonia> SnoopyDgg: you don't just run commands from cron
[09:42] <SnoopyDgg> ikonia, how do I do it?
[09:42] <ikonia> SnoopyDgg: the cron shell is quite limited, so you have to make sure the environment is setup, most people call a script for that reason
[09:42] <ikonia> SnoopyDgg: why is the word "Sun" in your cron
[09:42] <SnoopyDgg> ikonia, so it's run on sunday
[09:43] <ikonia> you put the day number, not the name
[09:43] <Dale> ducasse: are you still here
[09:43] <SnoopyDgg> at 09:25
[09:43] <SnoopyDgg> ikonia, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18919151/crontab-day-of-the-week-syntax
[09:43] <ikonia> not interested in that
[09:43] <ikonia> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron
[09:44] <SnoopyDgg> ikonia, exactly from wikipedia "Saturday, or use names; 7 is also Sunday)"
[09:44] <ikonia> right, the names aren't always supported
[09:44] <ikonia> it depends on the version
[09:44] <ikonia> so be safe, use the numbers, but it's up to you
[09:45] <SnoopyDgg> ikonia, so it didn't run because of SUN or something else? You said "you have to make sure the environment is setup, most people call a script for that reason" what does that mean?
[09:45] <ikonia> SnoopyDgg: no, I explained to setup the environment
[09:46] <ikonia> I'm just offering you advice about the name SUN on the side, you can ignore it if you want, it's all up to you
[09:46] <diskin> from man 5 crontab: 'Months or days of the week can be specified by name'
[09:46] <SnoopyDgg> diskin, but why it didn't run?
[09:46] <ikonia> SnoopyDgg: I've just told you
[09:47] <ikonia> SnoopyDgg: the cron environment is minimal
[09:47] <ikonia> you need to setup your enviornment - thats why a lot of people wrap it in a shell
[09:47] <ikonia> SnoopyDgg: also look at the cron log, did it try to execute and fail, or not try to execute
[09:47] <SnoopyDgg> ikonia, where is cron log located?
[09:47] <ikonia>  /var/log - where all the logs are
[09:48] <ikonia> come on, this is basic cron and basic debugging
[09:48] <ikonia> you can't expect to use tools without this level of basic understanding
[09:48] <SnoopyDgg> how else am I supposed to learn?
[09:48] <ikonia> by doing it and reading
[09:48] <SnoopyDgg> ikonia, that's exactly what I'm doing, isn't it?
[09:48] <ikonia> not just saying "it's broke" "how do I" "where is that"
[09:48] <ikonia> no, you're just asking for people to fix it
[09:49] <ikonia> you've not even checked the logs, you've not checked if cron logs, you've not checked crons shell env
[09:49] <ikonia> all of this would be clear steps if you'd not just read the headline of a wiki to look at the format for a cron entry and done it
[09:49] <SnoopyDgg> I don't even know how to do it
[09:49] <ikonia> don't know how to do what ?
[09:49] <Dale> read logs i guess
[09:58] <kromwell> In VirtualEnv I install BeautifulSoup4 and it says it installed, but when I go to terminal and try to import it, it says no such module exists.
[09:58] <kromwell> The path it refers to is /usr/local/lib/python3.4/dist-packages
[09:58] <kromwell> when it says it is installed
[09:58] <kromwell> Each virtualenv should store modules in a specific location and not in /usr/local/lib/python*/dist-packages, right?
[09:59] <kromwell> So why isnt mine doing that?
[09:59] <kromwell> I'm using pip
[10:00] <kromwell> but I read that pip is compatible in virtualenv and that setup.py install isnt necessary
[10:02] <sacarlson2> SnoopyDgg: I'm not sure but in many cases I have had to put the full path to what I run in cron as the shell is not setup the same at the account you use normaly
[10:04] <kromwell> Nevermind.It turns out it was installed but I invoked it under an incorrect name.
[10:11] <sacarlson2> also SnoopyDgg: I've never seen SUN used in cron,  numbers 0 - 6  are used with "0" being sunday
[10:12] <SnoopyDgg> sacarlson2, what shell would look like in my case?
[10:12] <ikonia> it's not a shell
[10:12] <ikonia> it's the shell environemnt
[10:12] <ikonia> a user shell env is a lot more complete than the stripped down cron
[10:12] <ikonia> now I've told you that - research it
[10:13] <sacarlson2> SnoopyDgg: if you want to see what your default env for your normal system is as far as path you could try >echo $PATH
[10:14] <sacarlson2> but no need to setup path if you just enter the full path the the file you want to run
[10:14] <Dale> anyone know why my autologin wont work after updating my kernel
[10:14] <ikonia> what do the logs show
[10:14] <Dale> it just keeps going to the lightdm login screen
[10:14] <ikonia> what do the logs show
[10:15] <ducasse> Dale: look at ~/.xsession-errors and the lightdm logs
[10:16] <Dale> where do i found those logs
[10:17] <ikonia> in the path you've just been show
[10:17] <ikonia> shown
[10:17] <ikonia> he's given you the full path
[10:17] <ikonia> Dale: what kernel did you ugprade to
[10:17] <Dale> $ ls -lah ~/.xsession-errors
[10:17] <Dale> ls: /Users/Dale/.xsession-errors: No such file or directory
[10:17] <Dale> 4.2
[10:18] <ikonia>  /users ?
[10:18] <Dale> sorry
[10:18] <Dale> i was on the wrong screen for ssh
[10:18] <Dale> i found the log
[10:18] <Dale> http://pastebin.com/k5M0dzH8
[10:18] <ikonia> read the log
[10:19] <ikonia> don't pastebin it
[10:19] <Dale> i did read it
[10:19] <ikonia> you're just asking us to do the work for you
[10:19] <ikonia> Dale: ok - so what stands out in the log
[10:19] <Dale>  id say /usr/sbin/lightdm-session line 29 no such file
[10:19] <ikonia> Dale: so if you look at that log - there are a good few errors you need to fix
[10:19] <ikonia> set about fixing those errors
[10:21] <Dale> is there another log location specifically for lightdm
[10:21] <ikonia> you've just got the info
[10:21] <ikonia> why are you looking for another log - rather than fixing those issues
[10:22] <sacarlson2> Dale: might look at /var/log/system see maybe some disk failed to mount or ??
[10:22] <ikonia>  /var/log/system ??
[10:22] <ikonia> thats not even a log file
[10:23] <sacarlson2> sorry /var/log/syslog
[10:23] <ikonia> why would he look at that ?
[10:24] <sacarlson2> I see permision problems on /tmp dir so maybe tmp is mounted to ??.  maybe I didn't look back into what he's doing
[10:25] <ikonia> you don't need to look at a log
[10:25] <ikonia> just mount or touch /tmp/test
[10:25] <ikonia> but fix the errors in that log - the startup looks to be a mess
[10:26] <sacarlson2> yes touch /tmp/test would prove that it is mounted.  so maybe the user that runs lightdm doesn't have perms to access or create files in it
[10:28] <sacarlson2> on my system /tmp is setup with perms of 777 that you would expect all could write and read from
[10:28] <Dale> i have no idea whats wrong. im about to just nuke the entire thing
[10:29] <ikonia> the logs show you what's failig
[10:34] <Desu> sacarlson2: should be 1777
[10:34] <Desu> for obvious reasons
[10:34] <Grorco> hello all
[10:35] <sacarlson2> Desu: you are correct as I just looked at drwxrwxrwt  and didn't count the 1
[10:35] <Dale> ive adjusted perms it didnt help. like i said im at a loss
[10:36] <Dale> i never said lightdm didt work, i merely said it doesnt autologin anymore
[10:36] <sacarlson2> yes so that means you manualy can login if you enter user pass?
[10:36] <Dale> i could if i had a keyboard possibly
[10:37] <sacarlson2> so you have not proven if you can login at all
[10:37] <Dale> unless i can do it over ssh i cant do much of anything
[10:37] <sacarlson2> how do you see the logs if you don't login?
[10:37] <Dale> ssh
[10:38] <ahrc333ff> That's a login :)
[10:38] <sacarlson2> oh create a new user with ssh and try login to that
[10:39] <Dale> im already logged in through ssh
[10:39] <sacarlson2> create a fresh new user
[10:39] <Dale> why would i do that
[10:39] <sacarlson2> to get rid of all the changes made in your preset account and start from a default one.  just a hunch
[10:39] <bekks> For testing autologin.
[10:40] <sacarlson2> I assume you can't login to X your just login on ssh to text
[10:40] <Dale> not that i know of
[10:40] <bekks> Dale: Pastebing "mount" please.
[10:41] <bekks> Maybe you have a readonly system currently.
[10:41] <bekks> *pastebin
[10:41] <sacarlson2> bekks: good point
[10:41] <Dale> http://pastebin.com/hZgkPLLr
[10:42] <bekks> Dale: Are you on a live cd currently?
[10:42] <Dale> no
[10:42] <bekks> Dale: So pastebin "dmesg" as well please.
[10:43] <Dale> how can you pastebin that
[10:43] <bekks> dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:43] <Dale> http://termbin.com/flih
[10:44] <bekks> Dale: Did you just restart your box?
[10:44] <Dale> uh recently yes
[10:45] <bekks> Dale: And what is the content of the logs now, after the restart?
[10:45] <Dale> they're identical
[10:46] <bekks> Dale: I strongly doubt that :)
[10:47] <Dale> http://pastebin.com/R5NeSzTu
[10:47] <Dale> looks the exact same to me
[10:47] <bekks> Which log is that?
[10:47] <Dale>  ~/.xsession-errors
[10:48] <bekks> Dale: And whats are the outputs of "uname -a", "lsb_release -a", "ls -lha /tmp", "ls -lha /usr/sbin/lightdm-session"?
[10:49] <Dale> http://pastebin.com/TyabHDYk
[10:51] <bekks> Dale: You are using kodibuntu, are you?
[10:51] <Dale> yes.
[10:51] <ducasse> the perms on /tmp are screwed up, at least.
[10:51] <ducasse> afaik kodibuntu is not an official flavor
[10:51] <bekks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors does not list kodibuntu, so it isnt an official flavor.
[10:52] <bekks> Yeah, perms on /tmp are not 1777, as can be seen.
[10:52] <Dale> what would i do to ajust the perm
[10:52] <ducasse> Dale: 'man chmod'
[10:52] <bekks> Dale: you have been told to run chmod 1777 /tmp already.
[10:53] <Dale> sweet. that fixed it
[10:53] <Dale> thank you so much
[10:54] <Dale> i guess installing a diff kernel messed with the /tmp permissions
[10:54] <bekks> Nope.
[10:54] <bekks> You did that, and you didnt fix permissions as you stated earlier.
[10:54] <Dale> i said "guess" not did
[10:55] <Dale> i did it when
[10:55] <bekks> No, as can be clearly seen you did not set 1777 earlier.
[10:55] <Dale> im just stating i never changed the perm from the earlier install.
[10:56] <Dale> i thought 777 was the correct perm to use
[10:56] <bekks> And you did not set them to 777 earlier.
[10:56] <bekks> That can be clearly seen in you pastebin.
[10:57] <Dale> i attempted to
[10:58] <Dale> here we go if ound it
[10:58] <Dale> "sudo chmod 777 /tmp"
[10:58] <Dale> i tried that earlier
[10:59] <bekks> Dale: You pastebin proves that you did not.
[11:00] <Tex_Nick> thank the people that helped, and move on to something else ;-)
[11:00] <Dale> i did thank him
[11:00] <bekks> Dale: And this discussion can be considered be pointless, since your problem is solved already, even for a non-official flavor.
[11:05] <\9> for how much longer is 15.10 supported?
[11:05] <bekks> !15.10
[11:05] <bekks> \9: it is dead already.
[11:05] <\9> oh?
[11:06] <\9> it's still in the topic though
[11:06] <\9> and that factoid is unclear as to when in july it becomes EOL
[11:07] <bekks> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2016-July/000208.html
[11:07] <bekks> You have two weeks for updating left
[11:09] <Tex_Nick> two options, move up to 16.04 or back to 14.04, Ha
[11:11] <\9> bekks: thanks, that should be enough for me
[11:20] <xchatter> Hi
[11:20] <xchatter> Is there a simple command with which I can see when a system wide update/upgrade command was last successfully executed?
[11:21] <Seveas> there is no such thing as a 'system wide update/upgrade', so no.
[11:21] <xchatter> sudo apt-get update
[11:21] <xchatter> apt-get upgrade
[11:21] <\9> xchatter: /var/log/apt/ can help with that
[11:22] <kromwell> "(libicui18n.so.48: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)"
[11:22] <kromwell> What does 48: refer to?
[11:22] <kromwell> Is it a process id?
[11:22] <\9> patch version, I believe
[11:23] <Seveas> no, a soversion
[11:23] <xchatter> I had installed a package on my fathers Ubuntu  system 6 months ago. But I don't get a chance to visit him. I want to check whether it is updating. My father has no clue about computers but my brother could manage to enter a simply Linux command.
[11:23] <jatt> /var/log/apt/history.log
[11:23] <Seveas> indicates binary compatibility (libicui18n.so.48 is not compatible with libicui18n.so.anything-but-48)
[11:24] <Seveas> xchatter: /var/log/apt is only kept for 2 months, so you can see if there was an update in the last two months
[11:24] <ahrc333ff> xchatter: open up his routers firewall, setup an ssh server, and you can manage his machine remotely :)
[11:25] <bekks> On a 14.04, the logs are kept longer than 2 months.
[11:25] <bekks> Using logrotate, they are just rotated once a month.
[11:26] <Seveas> heh, just realized that this system is less than 3 months old :)
[11:27] <bekks> :D
[11:27] <kromwell> Seveas, would it be advisable to then uninstall libicui18n.so.48, run apt-get update and reinstall it?
[11:27] <Seveas> yeah, 10 months (current + 9 archived) is normal
[11:27] <bekks> They are just kept, 13 months here, currently.
[11:27] <Seveas> kromwell: no. What is the actual problem you have that makes you suggest something this crazy? :)
[11:28] <Seveas> bekks: hmm, the second system I looked at is defeintely older than 10 months
[11:28] <Seveas> time to actually look at the logrotate config....
[11:28] <Seveas> /var/log/apt/history.log {
[11:28] <Seveas>   rotate 12
[11:28] <Seveas>   monthly
[11:28] <Seveas> so, a years worth :)
[11:28] <\9> kromwell: what are you doing that causes that error? please post the exact command and output into a pastebin
[11:29] <\9> !paste | kromwell
[11:29] <kromwell> Seveas, sure. One moment.
[11:30] <kromwell> \9 , did I past multiline text? I thought I removed the newline characters and it displayed as a single line?
[11:30] <kromwell> It may just be displaying that way on my client, in which case I apologize
[11:30] <xchatter> /var/log/apt gibt es nicht,
[11:30] <bekks> Dann hast du kein Ubuntu.
[11:30] <\9> kromwell: er. i was asking what are you doing that causes that error
[11:30] <\9> you posted the error but the command causing it is unclear
[11:30] <bekks> xchatter: Then you dont have an Ubuntu system :)
[11:31] <kromwell> Oh, sorry. I havent slept in a long time and its 4 am. I read your post about the problem as being posted by Seveas.
[11:31] <suvrat> hello i need help regarding ubuntu
[11:31] <xchatter> bekks, I don'
[11:31] <xchatter> But my father does.
[11:31] <suvrat> anyone can help me ohh
[11:32] <bekks> xchatter: Then there is a /var/log/apt
[11:32] <suvrat> bekks
[11:32] <xchatter> head /var/log/apt -> Fehler beim lesen
[11:32] <bekks> suvrat: you need to ask a specific question :)
[11:32] <bigpet> So I installed Ubuntu for a friend on his Lenovo G700. Everything worked sort of alright, but after an update this week his BCM43142 wifi chip does not work anymore. "modprobe wl" outputs "could not insert wl required key not available"
[11:32] <bekks> xchatter: head being used on a directory throws that error.
[11:32] <suvrat> how do i download youtube vedio
[11:32] <xchatter> kein solches Verzeichnis sagt mein Bruder
[11:32] <bekks> xchatter: This channel is nglish only.
[11:32] <bekks> *english
[11:32] <xchatter> ups
[11:33] <Seveas> xchatter: it's a directory, not a file. Let him mail you all files in there
[11:33] <bigpet> secure boot should be disabled, it's set to "secure boot: [Disabled]" but underneath it says "Secure Boot Status: enabled" in the bios
[11:33] <suvrat> bekks how do i download youtubr vedio?
[11:33] <xchatter> In which file can I see when the uprade command was last successfully executed.
[11:33] <bekks> xchatter: Depends on the files in that directory. Let him mail you all files.
[11:33] <Seveas> xchatter: you can't. But you can see which package was updated when.
[11:34] <suvrat> bekks seveas how do i download youtube vedio from ubuntu
[11:34] <sacarlson2> suvrat: did you look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/63270/how-do-i-download-a-youtube-video
[11:34] <suvrat> yes
[11:34] <Seveas> !repeat | suvrat
[11:34] <Tex_Nick> suvrat: that's not an ubuntu support question, however the firefox video downloadhelper works well, many other options ... google it
[11:35] <kromwell> \9, http://pastebin.com/nUU25tQT
[11:35] <egrain> hi. she wants a libCWCore.so.1 from me. is there a way for me to find out which package contains it?
[11:35] <suvrat> thanks all
[11:35] <suvrat> :)
[11:35] <kromwell> The log is created by invoking phantomjs via selenium
[11:35] <\9> egrain: https://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:35] <Seveas> egrain: who's she and why does she want it?
[11:35] <Seveas> egrain: apt-file search libCWCore.so.1
[11:36] <Seveas> kromwell: how did you install phantomjs?
[11:36] <egrain> Seveas, some weird photo book editing thing. CEWE fotobuch.
[11:37] <bekks> egrain: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Fotobuch/
[11:37] <Seveas> egrain: looks like that file does not exist in any ubuntu package, apt-file returns nothing
[11:37] <kromwell> Seveas, sudo apt-get install phantomjs, the second error listed there is because I used export DISPLAY:10 when I was trying to run firefox headless
[11:37] <Seveas> hm, that *should* install all the dependencies as well
[11:38] <egrain> well, doesn't. the whole package is fucked up. gives you hardly any documentation how to install it. if i didn't know where i had to look for, nothing would have happened.
[11:39] <egrain> you first need to chmod +x the .pl file. nothing about that on the download page, nor that you have to start it in the terminal. and then when you start the "mein fotobuch" thing like you are supposed to, it tells you: library not found.
[11:39] <bekks> egrain: Unoack the tarball, make the install.pl executable, run it.
[11:39] <egrain> i got all that.
[11:39] <egrain> oh! it gets better. for the EULA you need to know the man page / vi commands.
[11:39] <bekks> And there are even screenshots on the download page :)
[11:40] <bekks> egrain: you can use a graphical text editor as well.
[11:40] <bekks> No need for "man" or "vi".
[11:40] <egrain> not when you install it.
[11:40] <bekks> You could even use LibreOffice for reading it.
 hm, that *should* install all the dependencies as well
[11:41] <kromwell> I'll try reinstalling and then linking to the binary path when I call PhantomJS through Selenium
[11:43] <Jzaneeur> hello
[11:45] <egrain> if start the install.pl file with "execute program" (don't know the exact english word. everything is german here), nothing happens.
[11:45] <jatt> perl install.pl
[11:45] <egrain> only if i do it via terminal, which brings me back to the needing to know that "q" exits the EULAS wehn i few them.
[11:46] <bekks> egrain: And whats the problem at that point, since you do know it?
[11:47] <egrain> that after i installed it it tells me it can't find the libCWCore.so.1.
[11:47] <egrain> which brought me here.
[11:47] <egrain> google told me nottin.
[11:47] <bekks> egrain: This is the totally wrong place for complaining about a 3rd party software which isnt shipped by Ubuntu. :) Point your complaints to the authors of that software :)
[11:47] <bekks> egrain: So whats the output when running the installer?
[11:48] <egrain> oh, that's all good. installs and everything.
[11:49] <egrain> but when i start the foto buch thingy, it gives me: "error while loading shared libraries: libCWCore.so.0: cannot open shared oject file. No such file or directory.
[11:49] <egrain> oh, it's 0, not 1.
[11:49] <egrain> i'll try the apt-file search thing.
[11:50] <_peter_> !Trainfiles David Allen - Getting Things Done (epub).rar
[11:50] <bekks> egrain: Did you install that software as user?
[11:50] <egrain> i did.
[11:51] <bekks> egrain: So can you please pastebin "ls -lha /home/youruser/.Cewe/" please?
[11:52] <egrain> i don't have a .cewe. i could offer you ~/CEWE
[11:53] <bekks> Yeah, that would be fine, too.
[11:53] <bekks> And it should be .Cewe, not .cewe
[11:53] <egrain> yes yes. none of it.
[11:54] <vooze> anyone good with gpg for uploading to ppas? I have uploaded with dput but nothing happens on lauchpad. I suspect it might have something to do with my gpg-keys.. The thing is: if I use gpg --list-secret-keys they are indentical to gpg --list-public-keys.. Is that okay?
[11:55] <bekks> egrain: So will you pastebin what you have? :)
[11:56] <egrain> patience, young one.
[11:56] <Tex_Nick>  lol
[11:56] <egrain> http://pastebin.com/DWn86JiJ
[11:57] <egrain> take forever for firefox on this thing to load. and i don't know any paste tools in ubuntu.
[11:57] <bekks> egrain: can you pastebin "cd /home/youruser/; find . | grep -i cewe" as well?
[11:57] <bekks> You can use  ... | nc termbin.com 9999 instead of messing with firefox.
[11:57] <bekks> young one :P
[11:57] <\9> find ~ -iname '*cewe*'
[11:57] <\9> :P
[11:58] <bekks> Or that :)
[11:59] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 no sound
[11:59] <ankit> anyone help me
[11:59] <ankit> struggling since last month
[12:01] <egrain> http://termbin.com/ifpk
[12:01] <first> hi
[12:02] <first> hello
[12:02] <first> Hi
[12:02] <ankit> hi
[12:03] <egrain> ankit, did you select the right output? since 16.04 it switches to hdmi sometimes when i don't want it. when closing / opening the lid for example.
[12:04] <ankit> egrain i have selected Speakers - Build-in Audio
[12:04] <singam> hi guys use www.pazhanji.org
[12:04] <singam> a free file transfer service dedicated to #ubuntu
[12:05] <singam> www.pazhanji.org
[12:05] <egrain> ankit, checked the alsamixer? in the terminal type "alsamixer"
[12:06] <singam> ankit:  www.pazhanji.org
[12:06] <roy> Woohoo.. did the upgrade 15.10 to 16.04 a few minutes ago. Still a working desktop :D
[12:07] <ankit> nope few days back i upgraded
[12:07] <singam> roy:  my server is running in ubuntu 18.10 custom version beta ... www.pazhanji.org llook how fast that is
[12:07] <ankit> now sound is not working
[12:07] <singam> ankit:  can you hibernate it?
[12:07] <ankit> headphones are working fine
[12:07] <ankit> no option showing to hibernate
[12:07] <singam> ankit: try installing the drivers?
[12:07] <ankit> command??
[12:08] <roy> Singam, nice. Didnt know it was out yet. But i try to keep it at the normal released versions hehe
[12:08] <jatt> singam: ubuntu 18.10 has not been released
[12:08] <egrain> ankit, i really think you should check the alsamixer. there you can enable headphones and speakers separately.
[12:08] <singam> beta is released
[12:08] <ankit> i did check alsamixer
[12:08] <bekks> singam: 18.10? No :)
[12:08] <singam> yes its developers preview
[12:08] <singam> i got it .
[12:08] <bekks> singam: 16.10, not 18.10
[12:09] <egrain> ankit, then i'm sorry. i don't know. best of luck though.
[12:09] <singam> no its 18.10
[12:09] <\9> Sigyn: you've been spamming your website in here for days now
[12:09] <ankit> thanks
[12:09] <\9> stop it
[12:09] <singam> ankit:  tell me your audio hardware
[12:09] <ankit> how to check??
[12:09] <ankit> singam how to check audio hardware?
[12:09] <singam> switch your headphone in and rigght click on audio icon
[12:09] <singam> tthen select properties
[12:09] <singam> or something like that
[12:10] <egrain> lspci |grep Audio ?
[12:11] <singam> dont do that it will grep ur audio and not working lol
[12:11] <ankit> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[12:11] <ankit> this is the output of the command
[12:11] <singam> ok all u need to do is to install intel drivers
[12:11] <ankit> ok
[12:11] <ankit> how to do that??
[12:11] <singam> do u want me to link u?
[12:11] <ankit> sure
[12:11] <singam> ok
[12:12] <jatt> singam: what does lsb-release -a show in your machine?
[12:12] <jatt> I mean lsb_release -a
[12:12] <singam> pazhanji.org/download/file?key=19959
[12:13] <singam> ankit:  pazhanji.org/download/file?key=19959
[12:13] <singam> www.pazhanji.org/download/file?key=19959
[12:13] <egrain> why do i think this singam guy is up to no good?
[12:13] <ducasse> ankit: i wouldn't download _anything_ that guy links to
[12:14] <singam> im a legit guy lol .. just need people uising my website
[12:14] <singam> www.pazhanji.org
[12:14] <jatt> what?
[12:14] <singam> thats my website to transfer file
[12:14] <ducasse> singam: you've been told a million times to stop spamming your site!
[12:15] <singam> im not spamming .. im giving links to people
[12:15] <singam> which helps them out
[12:15] <egrain> you mean just like google?
[12:15] <singam> no not like google
[12:15] <hxr1> Hi Guys, I need some advice. I've just upgraded my rig to SLI GTX 1080.. and when Im trying to install or boot ubuntu it says "unknown chipset ..." an screen goes blank. Any idea how could I possibly launch ubuntu on that PC?
[12:15] <singam> this way u can transfer your files
[12:15] <bekks> Like a spammer, not like google.
[12:15] <singam> www.pazhanji.org
[12:15] <bekks> *plonk*
[12:16] <ducasse> singam: there's a reason you're getting kicked and banned from channel after channel
[12:16] <singam> and  there is a  reason i still keep spamming
[12:16] <hxr1> or how to boot ubuntu with some generic drivers ?
[12:16] <singam> hxm: use this link pazhanji.org/download/file?key=19959
[12:16] <singam> hxr1 use this link www.pazhanji.org/download/file?key=19959
[12:17] <bekks> !nomodeset | hxr1
[12:17] <hxr1> singam, Im not interested in SPAm :P
[12:17] <singam> well its not
[12:17] <ducasse> it is
[12:17] <singam> nope
[12:17] <singam> its just me helping people
[12:17] <egrain> anyway, i still need help with the libCWCore.so.0 being missing. anyone?
[12:17] <roy> How can the key be the same for different downloads?
[12:17] <singam> roy its not different downloads
[12:17] <sacarlson2> hxr1: how many SLI... card did you install just one?
[12:18] <singam> its same download
[12:18] <hxr1> 2 x GTX 1080
[12:18] <hxr1> ubottu, thx mate, I will start reading now
[12:18] <singam> ubottu: hi
[12:19] <singam> ubottu sex
[12:19] <singam> ubutto roy sex
[12:19] <bekks> !ops | singam
[12:19] <roy> Singam think its better that you just leave this channel
[12:19] <singam> ubottu:  roy hxr1 www.pazhanji.org BeerBaron robairt d D-Boy
[12:19] <sacarlson2> hxr1: so you added 2 x GTX and maybe one build in card?  if so did you disable the built in card?
[12:20] <singam> ubottu:  roy hxr1 www.pazhanji.org BeerBaron robairt e-dard_afk eddy83
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[12:20] <Tex_Nick> singam: please don't tease the bot, it's sentient ! ;-)
[12:20] <hxr1> sacarlson2, my motherboard doesn't have any integrated graphic card
[12:20] <sacarlson2> ok
[12:21] <hxr1> what I've read before is the problem with the drivers , which are not available yet for linux
[12:21] <bekks> hxr1: Did you try the nomodeset parameter?
[12:22] <hxr1> sacarlson2, actually if it would have integrated it would be even easier, I would just plug my screen to that one ;-)
[12:22] <hxr1> bekks, Not yet, I've just got the links to the article about it. Im going to try in a sec
[12:26] <ankit> sngam i did reinstall alsa
[12:27] <ankit> but still sound is not working from build-in speakerds
[12:27] <ankit> but still sound is not working from build-in speakers
[12:28] <sacarlson2> ankit: built in as in a laptop I take it?
[12:28] <ducasse> ankit: maybe the output is muted
[12:29] <ankit> yes
[12:29] <ankit> output is not muted as i attach headphones they are working
[12:30] <ankit> yes laptop speakers are not working
[12:31] <noizex> anyone using clang with Ubuntu 16 and being able to compile with -std=c++11 ?
[12:31] <noizex> seems like it's all messed, can't figure out what I need
[12:31] <\9> noizex: it works fine for me
[12:31] <noizex> either missing headers, or it's unable to link
[12:32] <hxr1> success, at least I've logged in to LIVE version
[12:32] <hxr1> nomodset resolved that :)
[12:32] <ikonia> noizex: "compile" is generic
[12:32] <ankit> sacaelson2: laptop speakers are not working
[12:32] <ikonia> it depends what you're compiling and how
[12:32] <ikonia> it's not a generic "this works, this doesn't"
[12:33] <noizex> ikonia: anything really, I have problems compiling a file with #include <iostream> int main { std::cout << "foo"; }
[12:33] <ikonia> "a problem"
[12:33] <sacarlson2> ankit: I think I see a solution here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117842/no-sound-from-speakers-but-headphones-work
[12:33] <noizex> can't find iostream
[12:33] <ikonia> you must understand people need details to actually be able to help
[12:33] <ikonia> noizex: ok - so thats it not able to find the header
[12:33] <noizex> it's picking Selected GCC installation: /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/5.4.0
[12:34] <ikonia> ??
[12:34] <ikonia> what has that got to do with it
[12:34] <ikonia> it can't find a header
[12:34] <noizex> probably version of headers it will be looking for
[12:34] <juanonymous> is it possible to have two different hostnames?
[12:34] <ikonia> where is it looking for the header
[12:34] <ikonia> juanonymous: in what respect ?
[12:34] <sacarlson2> ankit: as it says this: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf;  Now add the following line at its end: ;  options snd-hda-intel model=generic
[12:34] <ikonia> juanonymous: can you give the usecase
[12:34] <noizex> though it doesn't include 5.4.0 path to include
[12:35] <juanonymous> i saw a user in irc have a hostname of this -harfox (~harfox@Playboy.Kab.el.Gy) has left #bacolod (SailingTheSevenSeas)
[12:35] <juanonymous> playboy.kab.el.gy
[12:35] <\9> oky?
[12:35] <\9> +a
[12:35] <juanonymous> but when i tried checking the real hostname
[12:36] <noizex> ikonia: I asked a general question because I thought it may be usual problem, I found some posts that it's broken for Ubuntu, if anyone can try and help I will provide sample code or whatever is needed
[12:36] <juanonymous> it points to - khusus.dewasa.yang.bisa.nonton.xxx-online.video.
[12:36] <ikonia> noizex: where is it looking for the headerts
[12:37] <\9> juanonymous: that doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu. take it to the channel ops
[12:37] <juanonymous> ok
[12:37] <noizex> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19761117/
[12:37] <ankit> sacaelson2: i tried this one, also not working out :(
[12:38] <ikonia> noizex: don't want a paste,
[12:38] <ikonia> noizex: just an answer, where is it looking for the header
[12:38] <\9> the paste has the list of paths
[12:38] <ikonia> right, but where is it looking for the header you need
[12:39] <\9> in.. those paths?
[12:39] <noizex> ok, I'm confused
[12:39] <noizex> I gave you list of paths compiler tries to look in for iostream
[12:39] <ikonia> noizex: where is the physical header file
[12:39] <noizex> which is in /usr/include/c++/5/iostream or /usr/include/c++/4.9/iostream
[12:39] <noizex> and I have no idea why it won't look there
[12:39] <ankit> anyone help me to fix ubuntu 16.04 no sound from speakers but headphones are working fine
[12:40] <ikonia> noizex: have you told it to look in there ?
[12:40] <noizex> it seems like it uses GCC headers and it should just pick these
[12:40] <\9> shouldn't need to tell it to look there
[12:40] <\9> it's a standard header in a standard location
[12:40] <ikonia> if you look at the search path - it's not looking there
[12:40] <ikonia> so is the environment screwed up ?
[12:40] <ikonia> tell it to look there and see if it works
[12:40] <\9> that's what i'd think too
[12:40] <\9> ankit: are you sure your speakers are not physically broken?
[12:41] <noizex> ikonia: I tried adding it by hand, but it feels wrong and got another error: /usr/include/c++/5/iostream:38:10: fatal error: 'bits/c++config.h' file not found
[12:41] <paranoidabhi> hi
[12:41] <ankit> \0 i don't know actually, they are fixed into laptop :)
[12:41] <ankit> \9i don't know actually, they are fixed into laptop :)
[12:41] <\9> i see
[12:41] <cerion> hi. I use redshift-gtk. It automatically added a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart. But that does not launch it at login. In fact, X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled was set to false in the .desktop. SO i set it to true. But nonetheless, redhsift-gtk is not launched automatically. What's wrong ,
[12:41] <ikonia> noizex: ok - so now it's looking for a different header
[12:41] <ankit> \9  don't know actually, they are fixed into laptop :)
[12:41] <ikonia> noizex: where is that header ?
[12:42] <codepython777> has anyone made a deb file here recently?
[12:42] <ikonia> codepython777: just ask your real question
[12:42] <codepython777> I was thinking of making a .deb file to install cmake in /opt
[12:42] <noizex> here: /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/c++/5/
[12:42] <paranoidabhi> I am new to linux. I wanted to automate upgrades. I tried this solution https://github.com/abhigenie92/unattended_upgrades_repos. If possible can anyone give me suggestions on how to improve it. Or suggest better solutions.
[12:42] <ikonia> noizex: ok, so from your path, iut's not looking there - so you can expect it to fail
[12:42] <noizex> I tried adding it too then it comes to linker errors
[12:42] <sacarlson2> ankit: I'm sure you tried this: up vote         0         down vote                                         I had the same issue. Go to "System Settings" select "Sound" and then  select "Headphones" as the option in the the "Connector" drop down menu  list.
[12:42] <codepython777> does anyone have a simple way of doing that? I've a script that compiles and installs it in /opt
[12:42] <ikonia> noizex: so that means it's working then
[12:42] <Murzzilka> hi
[12:42] <\9> ankit: try use 'alsamixer' in console, press F6 and go through the devices listed
[12:42] <sacarlson2> ankit: like it might be reversed
[12:42] <ikonia> your build environment is just wrong
[12:43] <\9> maybe it's just muted?
[12:43] <ankit> \9 there are two options default, HDA Intel
[12:43] <Murzzilka> hi
[12:44] <codepython777> I was looking at this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=910717 - how do you put a compiled package into this form?
[12:44] <\9> so you just have one device
[12:44] <noizex> ikonia: I don't know, it's fresh installation and I thought it should work out of the box, I installed clang packages and just can't get it to work
[12:44] <ikonia> noizex where did the clang package come from ?
[12:44] <\9> ankit: are there any volume bars present? are the headphones currently plugged in?
[12:44] <ikonia> noizex: you can't get it to work as your environment is not looking in the right places, setup your environment
[12:44] <ankit> yes
[12:45] <ankit> \9 yes
[12:45] <\9> so it's there, and is not muted?
[12:45] <\9> your 'yes' doesn't really tell which question you said yes to
[12:45] <ankit> volume bars are presents and headphones are plugged in
[12:46] <\9> ok
[12:46] <sacarlson2> codepython777: I've only made 2 deb files but it's been some time.  the methods should still be in my github on those projects
[12:46] <ankit> and Headphone is not muted in alsamixer
[12:46] <\9> what if you unplug the headphones?
[12:47] <pavlushka> suddenly my ram and swap is getting saturated, so I closed the browser and other apps, now running only Hexchat, file browser and terminal, but the resource is still almost zero, have 2 GB ddr2 ram, 2 GB swap on intel celeron 540m processor, running Xubuntu 16.04, 64 bit.:(
[12:47] <ankit> \9 headphones gets muted and speaker bar gets unmuted
[12:47] <\9> ok so the sound card is working fine
[12:47] <Tex_Nick> ankit: yeah unplug the headphones, they usyakky mute the speakers
[12:47] <Tex_Nick> *usually
[12:48] <\9> my guess would be physical damage if they don't work while headphones are unplugged, but i cannot tell for sure
[12:48] <\9> we've reached the end of my knowledge
[12:48] <ankit> ohh
[12:48] <noizex> ikonia: will check what libs it links and why it doesn't find standard library defs, thanks anyway
[12:49] <ankit> Tex_Nick any idea??
[12:50] <Tex_Nick> ankit: let me scroll up a bit to see what your original post was
[12:50] <ankit> Tex_Nick sure
[12:51] <Murzzilka> +i
[12:51] <sacarlson2> codepython777: I used a very simple script to make a deb file https://github.com/sacarlson/Backdoor/blob/master/make_deb_git.sh
[12:52] <codepython777> sacarlson2: if i want to install in /opt, - how can we change it?
[12:53] <sacarlson2> you basicly just setup the package dir as if it was root and put /opt/... whatever contents you want
[12:53] <sacarlson2> then run the script as far as I recall
[12:53] <egrain> are there ia32-libs packages? i found some tutorial for my CEWE Fotobuch problem, but the packages they want me to install she doesn't find. like ia32-libs-multiarch and ia32-libs-gtk. so i'm guessing i need to add another repository. i would appreciate the help, obviously.
[12:53] <Luka00> Hello people what is harmful intel_idle.max_cstate=1?
[12:53] <sacarlson2> the other part are the startup script and the remove scripts
[12:54] <codepython777> sacarlson2: i want to build it for cmake. How do i make sure that ubuntu does not execute apt-get install cmake once my package is installed?
[12:54] <Luka00> I continue to have freezing problems and would like to try this solution
[12:54] <sacarlson2> you can expand on the script so that it does the compile first then moves the bin into the location you desire
[12:56] <ankit> Tex_Nick any idea??
[12:56] <Luka00> trying not to burn my laptop
[12:56] <ankit> Tex_Nick ubuntu 16.04 no sound
[12:57] <codepython777> sacarlson2: does apt-get compare metadata ?
[12:57] <ioria> ankit, have you tried to boot a liveCd 16.04 and test it ?
[12:57] <ankit> nope
[12:58] <ioria> ankit, try
[12:58] <sacarlson2> codepython777: apt-get just uncompresses your set of files and puts them into the locations you setup in the deb file.  it also runs some the scripts that do the init of the setup and also the option to remove
[12:58] <Tex_Nick> ankit: so you say you only have 2 options, default & HDA Intel, is that in sound settings ?
[12:58] <_28_ria> Hello, "env|grep XDG_DATA_DIRS" gives some systemwide data dirs (in Ubuntu 16.04), but, when I tried it in Ubuntu 14.04. It doesn't have this env variable, Is there something similar, I could use for this in Ubuntu 14.04? maybe some core utility or some text file in the /proc, or something?
[12:59] <ankit> Tex_Nick yes
[12:59] <ioria> no, in alsamixer
[12:59] <geirha> sacarlson2: line 10 may remove more than just ".git files". You should drop the use of grep and xargs
[12:59] <ankit> Tex_Nick third one is enter device name
[12:59] <codepython777> sacarlson2: if a user tells apt-get install cmake, when my cmake is installed - how does it compare the version number? using meta data?
[13:00] <sacarlson2> geirha: if it could it didn't seem to remove anything needed as it works fine
[13:01] <sacarlson2> codepython777: you specif the version number in the config files.  I would have to read it to remember I wrote this years ago
[13:01] <geirha> sacarlson2: It's a bug waiting to happen. The cd commands too, but those are much less likely to occur
[13:02] <ankit> ioria yes in alsamixer settings
[13:02] <Tex_Nick> ankit: in system setings.sound you should see some tabs ... Output, Input, Sound Effects ... ??? do you see that ?
[13:02] <ankit> yes
[13:02] <ankit> four tabs
[13:03] <Tex_Nick> ok so on the output tab is that set to analog output ?
[13:03] <ankit> Output, Input, Sound Effects, Applications
[13:03] <codepython777> sacarlson2: i was hoping there are better tools for this now...alien?
[13:03] <sacarlson2> codepython777: the version is specified here: https://github.com/sacarlson/Backdoor/blob/master/backdoor.debpackage/DEBIAN/control
[13:03] <sacarlson2> codepython777: ya there must be as this was the method 2 years ago and I didn't research much when I wrote it as I was in a hurry
[13:03] <kromwell> How do I add a binary I just unpacked to path?
[13:04] <ankit> Tex_Nick http://imgur.com/XMmh6M2
[13:04] <Tex_Nick> ankit: Output tab ... Play sound through ... Analog Output ?
[13:04] <ankit> Tex_Nick http://imgur.com/XMmh6M2
[13:04] <Tex_Nick> ok i see the pic
[13:05] <kromwell> PATH=$PATH:~/opt/bin
[13:05] <kromwell> where ~/otp/bin is my binary
[13:05] <kromwell> is this correct?
[13:05] <kromwell> To add a binary to the path
[13:05] <\9> that is right
[13:05] <\9> you should add that to your ~/.bash_aliases
[13:06] <sacarlson2> geirha: you are welcome to put in a PR as I no longer support it
[13:06] <codepython777> sacarlson2: seems like alien --to-deb is the easiest way
[13:06] <codepython777> can't figure out how to tell it to install in /opt though
[13:07] <codepython777> also, not sure if alien compiles and then installs or is it a source .deb file that i've to compile?
[13:07] <sacarlson2> codepython777: why must it be in /opt?  you can add to the init script to move it I guess
[13:07] <Tex_Nick> ankit: what is that switch at the right side of the volume control ?
[13:08] <Tex_Nick> "Output Volume"
[13:08] <ankit> Tex_Nick Mute/unmute
[13:08] <codepython777> sacarlson2: I'm using everything from /opt - so need it all in /opt
[13:08] <Tex_Nick> yeah so it's in unmute ?
[13:08] <ankit> Tex_Nick yes
[13:09] <sacarlson2> codepython777: create a simbolic link in /opt or move it
[13:09] <codepython777> sacarlson2: do you know what alien does, when i do alien --to-deb cmake.tar.gz?
[13:09] <codepython777> where does it install things?
[13:09] <sacarlson2> codepython777: no I don't recall what alien does
[13:09] <codepython777> it generated cmake_3.6.0-2_all.deb ?
[13:10] <codepython777> how do i peek into it?
[13:10] <sacarlson2> I only have a full understanding of how debs work
[13:10] <codepython777> how do i look into this .deb file?
[13:10] <sacarlson2> you can open a deb file with your file manager from arkive  it's just a standard compressed file
[13:11] <EriC^^> codepython777: dpkg -c /path/to/deb
[13:11] <codepython777> sacarlson2: it only has ./cmake/Source files it seems
[13:12] <codepython777> I want it to have compiled version of cmake
[13:12] <Tex_Nick> ankit: above ioria asked if you had tried booting into a live dvd, i think that;s a good idea, it would be my first step at this point
[13:12] <sacarlson2> no it has to have the standards of deb in it
[13:12] <codepython777> how does one convert package-src.deb to package.deb?
[13:13] <codepython777> EriC^^: Thanks.
[13:13] <EriC^^> codepython777: no problem
[13:13] <ankit> okay I will download 16.04 and make a bootable usb
[13:13] <Tex_Nick> ankit: boot into a live session and hit the "Test Speakers" button
[13:13] <codepython777> I want to get a .deb file that has compiled cmake inside it, and installs it in /opt
[13:13] <sacarlson2> codepython777: the DEBIAN directory would have to be in the *.deb file or it would not be considered a deb file
[13:14] <ankit> is there a way to boot live session without downloading 16.04??
[13:15] <Tex_Nick> ankit: there is a switch on the headphone jack that disables/enables the speakers, it that switch isn't making good contact, it could keep the speakers disabled,
[13:16] <sacarlson2> Tex_Nick: good point ankit it could be a hardware problem not a software one.  any other booted iso to try to verifty that?
[13:16] <egrain> i think i got i!
[13:16] <egrain> t
[13:16] <egrain> thanks for your help, i guess.
[13:17] <dumas> is there a known bug in 16.04 with audio? my speakers stop producing sound and i have to log in and out to get it back
[13:18] <sacarlson2> dumas: well ankit has been complaining just seconds ago of no sound from speakers but sound with headphones on 16.04
[13:18] <Luka00> anyone can tell me how to set intel_idle.max_cstate=1 and how dangerous it is?
[13:19] <Lewoco_> Completely off-topic, but is anyone able/willing to answer some questions related to finding rental accommodation is the USA?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> Lewoco_, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:20] <dumas> lol my problem is when i unplug my headphones sound doesn't come from my laptop's speakers
[13:22] <ducasse> dumas: if it works with a relogin you could try restarting pulseaudio. maybe it doesn't properly detect the switch.
[13:23] <Tex_Nick> ankit: i understand that you want to get it fixed fast, and prefer to not have to burn a live dvd, however a live dvd can sometimes be your best friend
[13:23] <ankit> sure thanks
[13:26] <dumas> Tex_Nick, ducasse: could this maybe help? >https://github.com/yktoo/indicator-sound-switcher
[13:27] <sacarlson2> Tex_Nick: you still use dvd?  doesn't everyone use at least a usb flash to install?  it's even faster to install an iso direct off a standard sata drive
[13:28] <Tex_Nick> sacarlson2: lol good point sir, yeah i still burn an optical disk of all my distro installs
[13:30] <sacarlson2> Tex_Nick: to each his own, besides saving 30 cents it installs 10X faster.  I haven't had a working dvd reader on my system in some time.  they don't seem to last or just get dirty
[13:32] <Tex_Nick> sacarlson2: hmmm well i have some optical drives that are 10 or 15 years old and still work & several hundred dvd disk backups maybe 20 years old or so, that i still read data from at times, autocad files
[13:33] <Tex_Nick> sacarlson2: but you're right i shouldn't tell other people to burn dvds HaHa
[13:52] <curlyears> greets.  Yet another insane booting problem.
[13:53] <curlyears> I can now boot off my DVD drive, or my HDD.  But I cannot seem to boot off a USB Thumb that has animage of the 16.04 install DVD on it.
[13:53] <ikonia> curlyears: you know the drill - you want help provide details
[13:53] <ikonia> saying "cannot boot" doesn't help anyone
[13:54] <curlyears> The BIOS has two places to affect boot priorities.  Ibn the first, it offers a slection of the 250GB ssd, or "other bootable cards inserted" I have the SSD sel;ected.
[13:54] <madhu__> f10 : hi
[13:55] <madhu__> pintman : Hi
[13:55] <curlyears> in the other, it allows me to select the first, second and third boot priorities.  I hyave all 3 set to "USB-HDD" which is the closest description to what I actually have here.  It still keeps booting from the SSD
[13:55] <madhu__> how to install drivers while installing server os 12.04
[13:55] <ikonia> curlyears: most bioss will allow you ro override boot order with F12
[13:55] <ikonia> curlyears: you need to contact/research you motherboard / bios info about how to use it
[13:56] <ikonia> it's not an ubuntu problem
[13:56] <madhu__> arooni :
[13:56] <ikonia> curlyears: the only thing to make sure of, is that your bootable usb disk is actually a sane bootable media device (boot something else with it to test)
[13:57] <curlyears> what am I doing wrong?  The other options for USB include USB-FDD, USB-LS120, USB-CDROM, USB-Zip would one of those selections be more likely?
[13:57] <ikonia> curlyears: we don't support your bios
[13:57] <madhu__> Hi Arroni Znc
[13:57] <ikonia> they are just media types
[13:57] <ikonia> madhu__: please stop saying hi to every single person
[13:57] <madhu__> Arooni Znc : how to install drivers while installing server os
[13:57] <josh-miller> anyone every installed WMIC on Ubuntu 16? I'm trying to follow this guide http://techedemic.com/2014/09/17/installing-wmic-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts-64-bit/ but I get this error when attempting to make it Can't use 'defined(@array)' (Maybe you should just omit the defined()?) at ./pidl/pidl line 583
[13:58] <madhu__> Ikonia : I am trying if any one free
[13:58] <ikonia> madhu__: thats not how you do it
[13:58] <ikonia> madhu__: just ask the channel and wait for a response
[13:58] <madhu__> ojk
[13:58] <madhu__> ok
[13:58] <curlyears> ikonia:  I don't have anything else to boot with it.  The 14.04.4 "Create Install Disk" utility claimed the installer was written correctly to the USB.  That's it.  All the information I have .  And nno, I have no freinds or neighbours with computers I can ask to let me try this on theirs.  )-:
[13:59] <ikonia> curlyears: so either a.) learn how to fix/use your bios b.) verify the install media is sane
[13:59] <ikonia> curlyears: those are you two options
[13:59] <cerion> curlyears: then try to recreate an installation media. May be with another usb key
[14:00] <popey> madhu__: drivers for what?
[14:02] <madhu__> Popey : Hardware raid controller Megaraid M1115 controller drivers
[14:02] <popey> madhu__: are they not supported by a recent kernel?
[14:02] <madhu__> Popey : yes
[14:03] <popey> madhu__: so why do you need drivers?
[14:03] <madhu__> 12.04.05
[14:03] <madhu__> Popey : to detect Raid array
[14:03] <curlyears> OK, using CD/DVD creator, how do I tell it to use a .iso to create a bootable install disk?
[14:03] <popey> madhu__: why not 14.04 or 16.04? 12.04 is a touch old.
[14:04] <popey> madhu__: 12.04 goes out of support in less than a year.
[14:04] <madhu__> Popey; it is x3100 M5 v3 series. 12.04 will support m4 servers
[14:05] <curlyears> madhu:  so will all the newer versions
[14:05] <popey> madhu__: you are way better off using a newer version.
[14:05] <OerHeks> madhu__, but you already know it is a fakeraid device
[14:05] <popey> oh, ew
[14:05] <madhu__> Popey: My boss said add controller and go head
[14:06] <popey> madhu__: is this an existing 12.04 install? Can you explain?
[14:06] <popey> or a new install?
[14:06] <madhu__> fresh install
[14:06] <popey> great, so use a newer iso
[14:06] <curlyears> go with 16.04
[14:07] <madhu__> The existing software tested in 12.04.
[14:07] <curlyears> madhu__: how do you have existing software on a fresh install?
[14:07] <madhu__> In ubuntu hardware certified. there is not hardware
[14:08] <popey> curlyears: I assume the software they want to install on 12.04
[14:08] <madhu__> exactly
[14:08] <curlyears> madhu__: how old is your hardware?
[14:08] <madhu__> New one x3100 M5 v3
[14:08] <\9> sounds like you should invest in testing it on 14.04, lest your software winds up depending on an unsupported operating system version
[14:09] <curlyears> \9, good point
[14:09] <curlyears> madhu__: nice model number, who is the manufacturer
[14:09] <madhu__> I will check with my vendor
[14:10] <madhu__> IBM
[14:10] <curlyears> Ah
[14:10] <curlyears> OK, using CD/DVD creator, how do I tell it to use a .iso to create a bootable install disk?
[14:10] <ikonia> curlyears: I don't hink you do
[14:10] <madhu__> great
[14:10] <ikonia> it's a CD/DVD creator
[14:10] <ikonia> are you trying to make a CD/DVD or another usb ?
[14:10] <curlyears> Okonnia:  OK, then how do I use a /iso to create a bootable install DVD?
[14:10] <madhu__> cd
[14:10] <\9> curlyears: if you're on linux right now you can just use dd to create it
[14:11] <\9> er, install dvd?
[14:11] <\9> wasn't this about usb?
[14:11] <sukhjit> sup guys
[14:11] <ikonia> curlyears: ok, so you're making a DVD now
[14:11] <ikonia> \9: yes, we randomly jumped to DVD, keep up
[14:11] <madhu__> please give me steps
[14:11] <curlyears> ikonia:  since I can't get the existing USB to boot, I am going to the obvious backup route, yes
[14:11] <\9> hurgh
[14:12] <ikonia> curlyears: so if you right click on the DVD image it should give you an option to burn it
[14:12] <curlyears> do you mean the .iso?
[14:12] <ikonia> yes
[14:12] <curlyears> see, I am hopeless with GUIs.  I never had this much trouble getting along with the CLI
[14:13] <ikonia> please don't use that excuse
[14:13] <ikonia> as you've struggled to do what we've asked on the command line too
[14:13] <ikonia> you can burn a dvd from the commandline if you want
[14:13] <madhu__> Please let me know. How to create ISO with adding new drivers and kernel
[14:14] <madhu__> So that I can able to install in the future
[14:14] <sarbojit> madhu__, you dont need to create an ISO... ubuntu comes with a bootable iso.
[14:15] <sarbojit> you can use usbnetbootin to create a bootable usb stick though
[14:15] <madhu__> Sarbojit : Some times we need to add new hardware drivers and new kernal
[14:16] <madhu__> in case if not support exising releasaed image
[14:16] <sarbojit> madhu__, it is "kernel" and not "kernal" :-) by the way what exactly you're trying to achieve ?
[14:16] <curlyears> OK...when I click on the .iso, it pops me up in CD/DVD Disk Creator.
[14:16] <ikonia> madhu__: lets try to make this easy
[14:16] <madhu__> yes
[14:16] <ikonia> madhu__: have you tried installing 16.04 on your current hardware, yes/no
[14:17] <madhu__> No yet
[14:17] <Desu> curlyears: do you want to use a usb stick?
[14:17] <ikonia> madhu__: do that
[14:17] <sarbojit> good old flowchart way !
[14:17] <ikonia> madhu__: if it fails/has problems - tell us about them
[14:17] <madhu__> thank you
[14:17] <curlyears> When I choose the USB as the source, it shows mwe the contents of the USB, which appear upon casual inspection to be correct for an installer disk
[14:18] <ikonia> curlyears: can we cut to the chase here
[14:18] <ikonia> what do you need help with ?
[14:18] <madhu__> Last question; there is a possibililty to add third party drivers while installing os.
[14:18] <ikonia> madhu__: yes,
[14:18] <madhu__> Like that any ption in ubuntu
[14:18] <ikonia> madhu__: in ubuntu ? are you not using ubuntu ?
[14:19] <curlyears> but it won't let me select the DVD drive, even though there is an empty DVD loaded, and the system will show me the blank directory of the DVD.  The system, when I place the DVD in the tray and close the rtray, tells me it can't open the drive, it is already selected.
[14:19] <ikonia> curlyears: burn it on the command line
[14:19] <sarbojit> madhu__, what is the distro you're using?
[14:19] <ikonia> curlyears: you say you're happy with that - do that
[14:19] <ikonia> !install | curlyears
[14:19] <sarbojit> and to answer your question, it is possible to add 3rd party drivers while installing the OS but make sure proper config files are done so new OS finds them after a reboot
[14:19] <ikonia> curlyears: read the URLs - and I mean read them rather than skim them
[14:19] <curlyears> ikonia:  using dd?  I don't think I have ever burned a DVD using dd
[14:20] <ikonia> curlyears: no, thats not how you burn to a cdrom
[14:20] <madhu__> I try both 14.04 and 16.4
[14:20] <popey> good idea madhu__
[14:21] <madhu__> Update you after installation.
[14:21] <madhu__> T
[14:21] <madhu__> Thank for all
[14:21] <neil_> where would I ask about a java problem?
[14:21] <ikonia> ##java
[14:21] <ikonia> neil_: or ask #freenode how to use alis and search for channels
[14:22] <neil_> ikonia, thanks
[14:23] <jatt> in #java
[14:23] <curlyears> ikonia:  those pages don't cover upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04
[14:23] <ikonia> jatt: no - in hava
[14:23] <ikonia> ##java
[14:23] <ikonia> curlyears: thats not what you said you where doing
[14:24] <ikonia> curlyears: you said you wanted to make bootable media
[14:24] <ikonia> curlyears: then it jumped randomly to dvd
[14:24] <ikonia> now it's randomly I want to upgrade
[14:24] <curlyears> well, that is what thefirst link pulled up, instructions on upgrading
[14:24] <ikonia> curlyears: you need to give real inforamtion
[14:24] <ikonia> curlyears: right - so thats not what you are doing, so ignore that, and move to the next one
[14:24] <ikonia> curlyears: are we really having to filter documents for you ?
[14:28] <curlyears> ikonia:  I went to second URL, followed the directions step by step, ran into the same problem as before.  It won't let me select the DVD drive the blank disk is in.  The DVD is listed in the choices pulldown, but it is greyed out
[14:29] <ikonia> curlyears then either your device is not a DVD burner, or the media is not usable
[14:29] <ikonia> curlyears: you can use the command line if you want to make it happen and see what error you get
[14:29] <curlyears> ikonnia:  and yet the DVD burner exists in the launcher bar, and when I click on it, I see an empty disk
[14:30] <ikonia> curlyears: doesn't mean it sees it as a burner
[14:30] <ikonia> it can read, can it write....
[14:30] <curlyears> what conmand line is that?
[14:30] <ikonia> curlyears: I'm sure you can look it up
[14:30] <ikonia> your familier with using the command line more than the gui
[14:30] <curlyears> Why would it not see it as a burner?  It *IS* a burner
[14:30] <curlyears> nice
[14:31] <ikonia> curlyears: did you check the media ?
[14:31] <ikonia> curlyears: is it a CD or a DVD
[14:31] <ikonia> do you have another one to verify
[14:31] <curlyears> i pointed out that that was in the past (about 6 years in the past)
[14:31] <curlyears> it's a DVD blank.  Yes, let me try swapping the disk for anopther
[14:31] <ikonia> curlyears: you absorb an awful lot of time with your problems and the way you address them, so I'm not going to do the leg work for you - I'll help you, but I'm not going to read documents for you
[14:34] <curlyears> swapped another disk in.   No joy.   System sees it, recognizes it as a DVD+R, but the burner I get when clicking on  the .iso has that drive greyed out in the selection menu
[14:35] <curlyears> ikonia:  I looked at the two documents you linked, nothing in them helped.  You tell me to use the command line, I say "How do I do that?"  and you start complaining about doing my reading for me.  Point me to a doc or tutorial
[14:36] <ikonia> curlyears look up the command yourself
[14:36] <curlyears> WHAT command?  I know of no way to look up a man entry by describing what you want to do.
[14:36] <ikonia> curlyears: ahh it's not mounting the usb is it
[14:36] <ikonia> curlyears: google how to burn dvd's on the command line
[14:36] <ikonia> curlyears: sorry - the DVD
[14:37] <ikonia> curlyears: you wont be able to burn to it, if it's trying to mount it
[14:37] <ikonia> eg: when you click on it to see if it's empty,
[14:37] <curlyears> the USB is the source of the .iso.  it is mounting it and reading it just fine
[14:37] <ikonia> curlyears: check this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-ubuntu
[14:37] <curlyears> it automatically shows a DVD or a USB in the launcher when you  insert them.   How do I disabl;e that?
[14:38] <ikonia> I assume you're using 16.05
[14:38] <ikonia> 04
[14:40] <skinux> I just tried executing a JAR, I got a dialog telling me to set executable bit. I forgot how to do that. Help please?
[14:40] <ikonia> chmod +x
[14:40] <ikonia> skinux: man chmod for more details
[14:40] <ikonia> skinux: or right click properties in the gui
[14:40] <paranoidabhi> hi
[14:41] <jatt> skinux: chmod
[14:41] <curlyears> no, I am using 14.04.4, as I have stated repeatedly.  I am attempting to upgrade to 16.4
[14:41] <ikonia> curlyears: there is no upgrade path until 16.04.1
[14:41] <paranoidabhi> I am shifting from hdd to ssd on the same very machine. I need to reinstall packages. How can I do this with apt? That is create a list of a packages and then install again.
[14:42] <curlyears> ikonia;  well, then, I guess I'm trying to INSTALL 16.04 over 14.04.4
[14:42] <ikonia> curlyears: so you want to do a clean install ?
[14:42] <curlyears> ikonia:   yep
[14:42] <ikonia> curlyears: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-ubuntu so that is still valid
[14:43] <curlyears> ikonia:   step two contains the following:  16.04 LTS no longer comes with a CD/DVD burner, so using the Ubuntu Software Store, search for ‘Brasero’ and click ‘Install’.
[14:43] <ikonia> curlyears: right - so again, ignore that step
[14:44] <ikonia> but it wouldn't hurt to verify
[14:46] <ne8cfl> did I do this smart ctl test right? are those values ok? http://paste.ubuntu.com/19773389/ i can't read anything out of it
[14:46] <Desu> curlyears: why not use a usb stick?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> line 18, ne8cfl "PASSED"
[14:47] <curlyears> Basero is telling me "<blah>AMD64,iso" is an "unknown disk image type"
[14:47] <ikonia> curlyears: so your image may not be sane
[14:47] <ikonia> curlyears: "blah"
[14:47] <curlyears> \Desu:  I can't get my system to boot freom a USB thumb
[14:47] <ikonia> curlyears: how about the full dtails
[14:47] <ikonia> curlyears: as I've asked you
[14:47] <Desu> that can probably be fixed
[14:47] <ikonia> curlyears: what is the exact name of the image
[14:48] <curlyears> ...amd64.iso is all Braseros is showing me.
[14:48] <ikonia> curlyears: what is the name of the iamge
[14:49] <curlyears> I can't seem to copy it from the USB stick, ikonia.  WHen I try to highlight the filename for a copy, it just selects the entire image, including the little icon of the DVD.  I don't think I can paste that here. can I?
[14:49] <ikonia> curlyears: what is the name of the iamge
[14:51] <curlyears> ubuntu-16-04-desktop-amd64.iso     (I had to switch back and forth between the windows and manually copy that, copy & paste wouldn't work
[14:51] <ikonia> you could just type it
[14:51] <ikonia> it's 30 chars
[14:51] <curlyears> ikonia:  it's too long for me to remember accurately
[14:51] <ikonia> curlyears: have you checksummed the image
[14:51] <curlyears> I *DID* just type it
[14:51] <ne8cfl> idk I think I got hdd problems. since i reinstalled my os I just get problems. yesterday my system wouldn't boot up anymore [initctl: Event failed]. after another reinstall ubuntu keeps freezing on me
[14:52] <curlyears> ikonia:    *blush*   no, I haven't
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | curlyears
[15:01] <curlyears> I can't seem to locate sha256sums utility.  It is not recognized on my system as instal;l;ed, and apt-get says it can'rt find anything by that name
[15:02] <jatt> curlyears: it's provided by coreutils
[15:03] <curlyears> jatt:  then shouldn't it already be on my system?
[15:04] <jatt> curlyears: what does /usr/bin/sha256sum say?
[15:08] <jatt> curlyears: I think you were trying sha256sums instead of sha256sum?
[15:09] <curlyears> jatt.  no, I accedntally typed a "-" where I should have typed a "." in the filename to be checked.  *blush*  that I why I wish I could *ALWAYS* use cut&paste for long file names
[15:10] <curlyears> now I just have to wait tot he file of 16.04 desktop-64  sha sums to finish downloading (1.4 GB *sheesh*)
[15:12] <curlyears> I had strongly hoped that instaling 16.04 would have gone much more smoothly than this )-:
[15:12] <ikonia> curlyears: it does for most people
[15:12] <ikonia> I think the operator is the problem here
[15:13]  * curlyears smakcs ikonia around a bit with a small trout         :p
[15:13] <ikonia> errr no
[15:13] <ikonia> I'm not messing around
[15:13] <ducasse> curlyears: just curious - why can't you always copy and paste long file names?
[15:13] <ikonia> you need to tighten up how you use your system and how you request help
[15:14] <curlyears> ducasse:  when I am looking at, for example, the USB stick from the GUI, if I click on the name under a file, it insists on highlighting the small icon above it.  That won't work if I try to paste it to a command line.
[15:15] <ducasse> curlyears: use tab complete instead
[15:16] <brohan> Hello. I have a laptop that the hdd failed. I am getting ready to do a fresh install of ubuntu with a 120GB ssd, and 750GB hhd. This computer has uefi / secure boot. What is the best setup for me on install?
[15:16] <curlyears> I understanmd what you're telling me about tightening up how I ask for help, but have no clue what you're telling me about "tightening up" how I use my system, Ikonia
[15:17] <ikonia> curlyears you make a lot of mistakes, your system appears to have problems, etc
[15:17] <brohan> There will be NO dual boot with Win etc. Do I disable secure boot? I figured 1GB for /boot, 16GB for swap, the rest (113GB) for / and then /home on the 750 hdd
[15:17] <ikonia> brohan: 1GB for boot is crazy big
[15:18] <curlyears> ikonia:  yes, I do make a lot of mistakes.  I am a disabled 63 year old Olde Phart.  So sue me.
[15:18] <ikonia> 16GB for swap is a huge ammount, are you using syspend
[15:18] <brohan> ikonia: ok. What do you recommend
[15:18] <sacarlson2> brohan: it's been some time for me but it seemed easy on my last install with 14.04 for uefi most important was to setup my bios to be in that mode I think.  the boot auto detected it and did most of the rest
[15:18] <curlyears> My system does have a lot of problems, most of which are NOT my fault (some of which are, though, to be honest)
[15:18] <ikonia> curlyears: ok, so you need to tighten that up
[15:18] <ikonia> curlyears: pay closer attention
[15:18] <brohan> ikonia: my laptop has 12GB memory, I thought swap should double that?
[15:18] <ikonia> brohan: no no no, thats a long dead model
[15:19] <brohan> ikonia: ok, how much for boot and swap so you recommend, given the 120GB ssd
[15:19] <ikonia> brohan: no more than 500mb for boot - max
[15:19] <curlyears> Iknoia:  I have tried to do everything you (and others) have told me to do as you have told me to do it.  It doesn't always result in the expected results.  How is that my fault?
[15:19] <ikonia> brohan: are you planning on ussing syspend/hibernate
[15:19] <brohan> ikonia: yes
[15:19] <Guest29806> hello
[15:20] <rypervenche> curlyears: If you click on a file, then press F2, it will let you rename it, out it also highlights the file name, so you can then copy it. After using ctrl+c, you can click off of the file or press enter or esc I think to not rename it
[15:20] <ikonia> curlyears: it mostly doesn't result in the right result because you don't do exactly what you are told/read the instructions properly
[15:20] <brohan> ikonia: or . .  maybe not since I now have the SSD
[15:20] <involved> hello
[15:20] <ikonia> brohan: ok, so if you need to use suspend/hibernate, you need 12GB so it can dump all your ram into swap, if not, no more than 3 GB of swap
[15:20] <involved> i am in a live session of ubuntu
[15:21] <involved> i am going to install that and in the first step i get this error
[15:21] <rypervenche> involved: H there. Can you ask your question in one message? (It makes it easier for people to follow)
[15:21] <brohan> ikonia: Gotcha.With having my size ssd, it wouldn't hurt to have that much swap would it?
[15:21] <involved> This machine's firmware has started the installer in UEFI mode but it looks like there may be existing operating systems already installed using "BIOS compatibility mode". If you continue to install Debian in UEFI mode, it might be difficult to reboot the machine into any BIOS-mode operating systems later.
[15:21] <involved> If you wish to install in UEFI mode and don't care about keeping the ability to boot one of the existing systems, you have the option to force that here. If you wish to keep the option to boot an existing operating system, you should choose NOT to force UEFI installation here.
[15:21] <ikonia> brohan: define hurt ?
[15:21] <ikonia> brohan: it will use up your space, how much space you have on your system is your risk/problem to manage
[15:22] <involved> Force UEFI installation
[15:22] <brohan> ikonia: cause me to now have enough space on ssd for /boot and /
[15:22] <ikonia> brohan: ???
[15:22] <involved> what should i do in this step ?
[15:22] <ikonia> brohan: you have 120GB ssd, you use 12GB on swap, you have 120GB - 12GB
[15:22] <ikonia> brohan: surely you can work if you have enough space for your other file systems /
[15:23] <brohan> ikonia: exactly, 108GB for boot and / seems enough to me
[15:23] <ikonia> brohan: so you know boot is 500mb
[15:23] <brohan> ikonia: /home will be on my 750GB hdd
[15:23] <ikonia> brohan: so you've got 120 - 12GB, -500mb
[15:23] <ikonia> brohan: so do you think your root file system will fit in over 100GB of SSD ???
[15:23] <brohan> ikonia: correct, seems plenty for root to me :-)
[15:24] <brohan> ikonia: given that I understand ssd work best when less than 50% of space is used
[15:24] <ikonia> brohan: I don't think thats true
[15:24] <brohan> ok
[15:24] <rypervenche> involved: Do you need the other operating systen or are you wiping the whole drive?
[15:24] <sacarlson2> involved: hard to answer that without knowing what you have left on the drives that you might want to keep
[15:24] <curlyears> ikonia:   you have been extremely helpful to me over the past several months, and for that I thank you.  I do the best that I can, rather than just roll up in a ball and wait to die as many people in my circumstances do.  I apologize fornot being right smack on top of things.
[15:24] <ducasse> brohan: you don't need swap for suspend, but you do for hibernate.
[15:25] <ikonia> curlyears: you don't have to be on top of things
[15:25] <brohan> ikonia: if you had that drive setup and were installing a fresh ubuntu, how would you set it up
[15:25] <ikonia> curlyears: you do need to pay more attention and do more research
[15:25] <involved> sacarlson2, i need to other operating systems also
[15:25] <ikonia> curlyears: eg: you hadn't really done anything before coming here and asking "why can't I boot"
[15:25] <brohan> ikonia: I don't do anything out of the ordinary,not a gamer, video editor, etc
[15:25] <sacarlson2> involved: oh like dual boot windows or something?
[15:25] <rypervenche> involved: Then DON'T choose to force UEFI.
[15:26] <curlyears> ikonia:  I do pay attenion.  My high levels of untreated chronic pain make the sort of accuracy and precision needed to this difficult for me to accomplish.
[15:26] <involved>  acarlson2, i have windows  7 and ubuntu 14.04
[15:26] <ikonia> curlyears: I don't believe you do pay attention, thats just my personal opinion though
[15:26] <sacarlson2> involved: ya I have to agree with rypervenche if you plan to boot any other systems you should abort this install
[15:26] <ikonia> brohan: something like /=25GB, /boot=500mb, swap=12GB, /home=the rest
[15:27] <ikonia> that way you system will be fast,
[15:27] <involved> sacarlson2, what should i do then ?
[15:27] <ikonia> then mount your big disk on other directories, like /home/user/media (if you wanted somewhere to put your videos for example)
[15:27] <sacarlson2> involved: does windows boot from uefi?  I don't know enuf about windows 7 to help any farther
[15:27] <curlyears> ikonia:  thqt is NOT true!!!!   I spent *DAYS* tyring to figure out what the problem was.  It never occureed to me to unplug the 3TBdrives and set the BIOS out of EFI mode, since when I installed th drives, not being in EFI mode caused TONS of troubles
[15:27] <brohan> ikonia: Thank you :-)
[15:27] <ne8cfl> cd ..
[15:28] <ikonia> curlyears what about today with your non-booting usb
[15:28] <curlyears> I folloed dozens of suggestions from the more knowledgeable members of tyhe channel, all to no avail.  Not their fault, and not mine.  Apparently this MB has a strange BIOS on it
[15:28] <involved> sacarlson2, i installed one time and it is my twice times because i got this error that grub cant install in the end of installation
[15:28] <curlyears> ikonia:  I fought with that all yesterdfay afternoon, and all this morning
[15:29] <ikonia> curlyears but what have you actually done
[15:29] <Dandels> ikonia, stop being an asshole
[15:29] <ikonia> Dandels: please don't call me names, and don't use that language
[15:29] <sacarlson2> involved: does windows still boot in this present bios mode?
[15:29] <curlyears> I asked one question that, I believe, you resp[onmded to with "We don't support your BIOS here."
[15:29] <involved> i cant boot with my other OS now i just can use live session
[15:30] <ikonia> curlyears: right, but you hadn't tried the other things, eg: verifying the usb, verifying the image, building a DVD, etc
[15:30] <sacarlson2> involved: most bios are setup to run in compatible mode (old mode)
[15:30] <involved> sacarlson2, i cant boot any of my oSs
[15:30] <ikonia> curlyears: it's ok not to know, but you would really benifit from trying a little more on the actual understanding of how something works/the fix, rather than just asking for a fix
[15:30] <ikonia> curlyears: everyone learns, so it's no problem starting at the bottom of the information tree,
[15:30] <involved> i have my drivers from ubuntu and windows7 but i cant boot to them
[15:31] <rypervenche> curlyears: See my private message, please.
[15:31] <sacarlson2> involved: sounds like you changed your bios to uefi and now windows will no longer boot.  you would have to put bios back in compatible mode to get windows working first. then install ubuntu in that mode not uefi more
[15:31] <curlyears> up until today, I *COULDN'T* nuild a DVD, I didn't have an available DVD writer drive.  As for "verifying" the USB, as I have tried to explain, I am alone ehere with *ONE* computer.  I have no one I can just pop in on and ask to use their computer to check my USB thumb out
[15:32] <involved> i looked for uefi mode in bios setting but i couldnt find that
[15:32] <ikonia> curlyears totally understand that, but you didn't try a DVD, until told to, you didn't check the iamge, until told to etc,
[15:32] <sacarlson2> involved: the other posibilty is you corupted the /boot section of uefi to make windows not boot if windows was installed that way. in that case I'm not sure what you should do.  as I said I'm not a windows guy
[15:32] <involved> in advanced mode
[15:32] <ikonia> curlyears: again, it's not a problem to not know, but you'll knwo a lot more if you read a full article for example and discard what you don't need, rather than just cut to the bit you want
[15:33] <involved> sacarlson2, i didnt do any change on bios setting
[15:33] <sacarlson2> involved: so you never change the bios setting in uefi?  I'm prity sure I can't help you
[15:34] <involved> sacarlson2, what is problem then ?
[15:36] <involved> sacarlson2, at first i could choose between uefi and bios mode but now i cant choose
[15:37] <curlyears> sacarlson2: what do you mean, exactly, by "now I can't choose?"
[15:38] <involved> curlyears, when i enter f12 i directly see install ubuntu
[15:38] <sacarlson2> curlyears: I don't remember saying that, can you give me a time stamp?
[15:39] <involved> curlyears, i cant choose between uefi and bios mode
[15:39] <curlyears> sacarlson2: you didn't, involved did. Apologies
[15:40] <curlyears> involved:  are the choices greyed out?
[15:40] <sacarlson2> curlyears: np
[15:41] <ikonia> yes
[15:41] <ikonia> ops
[15:41] <ikonia> sorry
[15:41] <involved> curlyears, i cant see choices i just see try ubuntu and install ubuntu after f12
[15:41] <curlyears> OH!   you're looking in the wrong place, I think, involved.  You need to reset your system, and hold down the "delete" key until you see a message that says something like "prepare to enter setup"
[15:41] <curlyears> then you have to find which setup menu has the UEFI selection in it
[15:41] <involved> oh my god
[15:42] <involved> i should choose UEFI?
[15:42] <involved> there ?
[15:42] <curlyears> ask sacarlson2, I don't know
[15:42] <involved> after delete ?
[15:42] <sacarlson2> involved: all I could find in a short time was this http://linuxbsdos.com/2014/05/30/dual-boot-ubuntu-14-04-and-windows-7-on-a-pc-with-uefi-firmware/
[15:43] <sacarlson2> see I'm just too slow
[15:43] <sacarlson2> missted it by 10 sec
[15:56] <involved> hi
[15:56] <involved> i entered delete but any result
[15:57] <involved> my bios setting is runs with f2
[15:58] <involved> i cant see any choise for uefi
[15:58] <involved> in my bios setting
[15:59] <curlyears> involved:  hoe about for EFI?
[15:59] <curlyears> how
[15:59] <sacarlson2> involved: I did find this involved: all I could find in a short time was this http://linuxbsdos.com/2014/05/30/dual-boot-ubuntu-14-04-and-windows-7-on-a-pc-with-uefi-firmware/
[15:59] <involved> curlyears, i didnt see EFI there in advanced mode
[16:00] <sacarlson2> involved: all I could find in short notice that should be similar to what you would need to do to boot both windows 7 and ubuntu
[16:00] <curlyears> involved: just how old is this system?
[16:00] <involved> i see bios is from 2012
[16:00] <involved> phoenix bios
[16:01] <sacarlson2> involved: I assume the ubuntu install detects if efi is active or not but I could be wrong
[16:01] <curlyears> hmmm....UEFI was around before 2012, for sure.  Strange.
[16:02] <involved> curlyears, what is your idea ?
[16:02] <sacarlson2> involved: it's also posible you might be able to flash the bios, but that could be risky
[16:03] <involved> is it possible that i loose my drivers?
[16:03] <curlyears> involved:   The only Idea I have might  be considered offensive by you.
[16:03] <involved> how to flash bios?
[16:04] <dstarh> is it possible to get VNC working on 16.04 desktop?  Everything guide I've followed leaves me at "gray screen"
[16:05] <involved> i have ubuntu 14.04  windows 7 and mint  on my drivers and i really dont want to loose mt data
[16:05] <dstarh> Ideally i'd like to keep with unity.  It's a headless media server but there are a few gui apps I needed
[16:05] <sacarlson2> involved: this give you some clues for bios flash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqf45klqvUA
[16:05] <ducasse> dstarh: vnc does not work with unity
[16:05] <curlyears> involved:  you'd need to go to the Website for Phoenix, look to see if there is an update available for your specific BIOS versino  number, download that and probably a special program to install it.  *WARNING*  if *anything* goes wrong with a BIOS flash attempt, your comuter essentially becomes a brick
[16:06] <dstarh> ducasse thanks was coming to that conclusion
[16:06] <dstarh> guess I'll fire up gnome
[16:06] <ducasse> dstarh: not gnome or kde either, you can't have 3d accel.
[16:07] <curlyears> isn't unity the default GUI for 16.04?
[16:07] <dstarh> curlyears it is the default
[16:07] <dstarh> ducasse xfce then?
[16:07] <ducasse> dstarh: yes, but disable the compositor
[16:07] <dstarh> kthx
[16:08] <involved> oh my od
[16:08] <involved> god
[16:09] <involved> curlyears, what is your idea?
[16:09] <curlyears> what now, involved?
[16:09] <ducasse> involved: what options do you have in the bios under the 'boot' heading?
[16:09] <sacarlson2> involved: if I were you I would at least backup all your home files from you windows disk.  I would just reinstall a fresh windows with my minimal knowledge it would probly take too long to figure it out
[16:09] <involved> i just see priority
[16:10] <involved> 1.flappy  2.harddisk
[16:10] <involved> 3 .cd/dvd
[16:10] <sacarlson2> involved: I personally do all my windows operations in virtualbox from within Ubuntu so I can run both a the same time
[16:10] <involved> 4.usb and so on
[16:10] <ducasse> involved: there is nothing regarding csm or secure boot?
[16:11] <involved> i see secure boot
[16:11] <involved> it is disable
[16:11] <involved> i set password for my bios
[16:12] <ducasse> involved: ok, and there are no settings for uefi mode anywhere?
[16:12] <involved> ducasse, not at all
[16:12] <involved> i searched exactly
[16:12] <ducasse> involved: what brand and model is this?
[16:12] <involved> fujitsu
[16:12] <involved> bios version 2
[16:13] <ducasse> involved: i need the model number so i can look it up.
[16:13] <curlyears> ducasse:  BIOS is qpparently dated 2012
[16:13] <Erroneous_Nickna> salut
[16:14] <involved> ducasse, model number of my laptop?
[16:14] <involved> or bios?
[16:14] <ducasse> involved: laptop
[16:15] <involved> i see LB AH532
[16:15] <ducasse> involved: ok, give me a minute
[16:15] <involved> ducasse, is it what you need?
[16:17] <ducasse> involved: yes, but i can't connect to support.fujitsupc.com, the site appears to be down. i was looking for the manual.
[16:17] <involved> ducasse,
[16:18] <involved> okay
[16:19] <sacarlson2> http://support.ts.fujitsu.com/content/QuicksearchResult.asp?q=LIFEBOOK+AH532&btnG.x=21&btnG.y=15
[16:20] <involved> sacarlson2, what does it show?
[16:21] <sacarlson2> can't you open it?
[16:21] <Cysc0> has anyone here ever had an issue with getting laptop power savings mode to activate manually?
[16:21] <sacarlson2> only thing I note is a newer version of bios involved:
[16:21] <SchrodingersScat> !details | Cysc0 easier if you describe what's happening to you, rather than polling random people
[16:22] <involved> sacarlson2, you mean i should install new version ?
[16:23] <sacarlson2> I don't think I would as windows ran ok with what you had.  if you have any hope to get what you already have running it's best to keep the original biow
[16:23] <ducasse> involved: only idea i've got is to load setup defaults, that should return it to a sane state
[16:24] <sacarlson2> involved: I had to flash mine one time I forget why oh was to get some virtual mode working that old bios doen't support
[16:24] <sacarlson2> I needed virtual modes to better support docker
[16:24] <involved> ducasse, i did factory defaults but any result
[16:25] <involved> sacarlson2, it is not a risk ?
[16:25] <ducasse> involved: what happens when you try to boot from the hard disk?
[16:25] <curlyears> involved:  flashing your BIOS is *ALWAYS* risky.  ANy errors will lead to your computer essentially becoming an expensive briick
[16:25] <sacarlson2> it's a bigger risk if you hope to get a drive that is already installed to work on another bios.  a new install will sense the bios and adjust what is needed at install time
[16:26] <sacarlson2> I had nothing to loose on my disk it was a fresh install
[16:26] <curlyears> the most common error I am aware of is an error in downlo0ading the binary BIOS image.  Be *SURE* to check any MD5 or whatever checksums for a precise match
[16:28] <involved> ducasse, i cant boot from hard disk i see no bootable device found
[16:28] <sacarlson2> involved: do you even have a windows 7 install cd or iso file for this fujisu?
[16:28] <curlyears> involved:  are you absolutely certain the HDD is connected?
[16:29] <sacarlson2> involved: I am almost sure it will be needed to fix the corrupted efi or uefi or whatever this thing runs from
[16:29] <ducasse> involved: maybe your bootloader is just corrupted. can you boot the installer in live mode?
[16:29] <involved> but when i insert dvd or bootable flash i entirely redirect to install or try ubuntu
[16:29] <tamir> HI
[16:29] <ducasse> involved: choose try ubuntu
[16:29] <involved> ducasse, i am in live mode now
[16:30] <involved> ducasse, i tried that
[16:30] <involved> i see fore uefi?
[16:30] <ducasse> involved: ok, good. try 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' in a terminal
[16:32] <involved> ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/ef': No such file or directory
[16:32] <ducasse> involved: ok, the laptop is booted in legacy mode.
[16:32] <sacarlson2> it must be like old legacy
[16:32] <curlyears> ducasse:  that won't work for him, he isin a Live DVD session.
[16:32] <involved>  ls /sys/firmware/efi
[16:32] <involved> config_table  fw_platform_size  runtime      systab
[16:32] <involved> efivars       fw_vendor         runtime-map  vars
[16:33] <curlyears> oh, never mind
[16:33] <ducasse> curlyears: of course it will
[16:33] <curlyears> oh, never mind
[16:33] <ducasse> involved: ok, so it _is_ in uefi mode
[16:33] <ducasse> involved: pastebin the output of 'sudo efibootmgr -v'
[16:34] <ducasse> !paste | involved
[16:35] <involved> ducasse, http://pastebin.com/xFPYKz1t
[16:37] <ducasse> involved: ok, also pastebin 'sudo parted -l'
[16:39] <involved> ducasse, http://pastebin.com/c0ziq5Xa
[16:41] <ducasse> involved: your problem is that windows and linux are both installed in legacy mode, but the laptop is in uefi mode. you need to somehow get it switched back to csm/legacy mode or reinstall everything in uefi mode
[16:41] <curlyears> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/SHA1SUMS.gpg
[16:41] <MrMessy> Hi, I need help for hdmi related problem on ubuntu (because of tlp install). Is this the right place to ask?
[16:42] <involved> ducasse, what should i do now exactly?
[16:42] <ducasse> involved: i can't really help you with that, there was nothing in the manual about it. i recommend you try ##hardware, they might know more about your type of laptop, i don't
[16:43] <chudak> Good morning all!  I am wondering if RAW ubuntu desktop image can be found somewhere?
[16:43] <ducasse> involved: or just backup and reinstall
[16:43] <guest-GEya5R> sudo -s -- << EOF
[16:43] <guest-GEya5R> wget -O - https://content.runescape.com/downloads/ubuntu/runescape.gpg.key | apt-key add -
[16:43] <guest-GEya5R> mkdir -p /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:43] <guest-GEya5R> echo "deb https://content.runescape.com/downloads/ubuntu trusty non-free" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/runescape.list
[16:43] <guest-GEya5R> apt-get update
[16:43] <guest-GEya5R> apt-get install -y runescape-launcher
[16:44] <involved> ducasse, it is no choice i have to back up and reinstall
[16:44] <guest-GEya5R> apt-get update
[16:44] <guest-GEya5R> apt-get install -y runescape-launcher
[16:44] <guest-GEya5R> EOF
[16:44] <guest-GEya5R> sudo -s -- << EOF
[16:44] <guest-GEya5R> wget -O - https://content.runescape.com/downloads/ubuntu/runescape.gpg.key | apt-key add -
[16:44] <involved> it takes me a long time
[16:44] <guest-GEya5R> mkdir -p /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:44] <jatt> jeez
[16:44] <ducasse> guest-GEya5R: stop that!
[16:45] <ducasse> !paste | guest-GEya5R
[16:45] <curlyears> involved:   sometimes computer problems can take a VERY long time to correct
[16:45] <guest-GEya5R> apt-get install -y runescape-launcher
[16:45] <guest-GEya5R> EOFsudo -s -- << EOF
[16:46] <guest-GEya5R> wget -O - https://content.runescape.com/downloads/ubuntu/runescape.gpg.key | apt-key add -
[16:46] <guest-GEya5R> mkdir -p /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:46] <involved> ducasse, no way
[16:46] <involved> ?
[16:46] <ducasse> involved: no way what?
[16:46] <curlyears> involved:   sometimes computer problems can take a VERY long time to correct
[16:47] <involved> really thanks guys
[16:47] <involved> i have to take a back up and reinstall
[16:48] <ducasse> involved: you could try in ##hardware first, there must be a way to switch csm back on.
[16:48] <ducasse> involved: it could save you a lot of bother
[16:50] <involved> ducasse, could you say my problem to them please ?
[16:51] <arianit> I'm having strange visual problems with text not showing in terminal unless I highlight the text. See the attachment. Similarly, the menu icons will disappear. Both get fixed after re log in. Any ideas? https://i.stack.imgur.com/Eibh6.png
[16:52] <involved> i am not good at english
[16:53] <Krapulat> Hello, I’m getting this “varnishd[4705]: Error: Cannot read -f file (/etc/varnish/default.vcl): Permission denied” when trying to start varnish. And the file has read permissions. What can be the problem?
[16:53] <ducasse> involved: just tell them you need to switch csm/legacy back on
[16:53] <canaima> HOLA
[16:53] <involved> okay
[16:54] <involved> ducasse, i cant send to channel
[16:54] <ducasse> !register | involved
[16:55] <curlyears> involved:  have you registered your nick yet?
[16:55] <sacarlson2> Krapulat: I assume that from within a term that you bring up?
[16:55] <involved> it solved
[16:55] <involved> i can send to channel
[16:55] <involved> but any answer yet
[16:55] <ducasse> involved: just wait, and ask again in a little while
[16:57] <involved> i need to switch csm/legacy back on how can i do that
[16:57] <involved> <-- erasmus has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[16:57] <involved> --- ##hardware :Cannot send to channel
[16:57] <ikonia> involved: the guys in the channel #freenode can help you how to setup and register a nickname
[16:57] <ikonia> then you can talk in ##hardware
[16:59] <sacarlson2> Krapulat: I have this problem in terminals infrequently when I more a file that has cntl caricters in it that sometims switch font colors and things, but on my system the term has a terminal>reset option that allows getting it back in normal default mode.
[17:00] <Lee_76> network question.  fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 lts 64 bit running on a VirtualBox.  I cannot see my windows network.  Are there configure instructions?  Yes I have samba installed.
[17:01] <ricksebak> I set up full disk encryption using this guide: http://thesimplecomputer.info/full-disk-encryption-with-ubuntu. But after installing Ubuntu and booting for the first time, I'm getting "cryptsetup: lvm not available". I'm not even using LVM. Anyone know how to fix this?
[17:02] <ccha5> hello
[17:02] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: I think you might want to set your virtual ethX to bridge mode
[17:03] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: this will make your virtual ubuntu apear to be on the same layer network as your windows that will allow samba to work
[17:03] <ccha5> someone know where I can get "keactrl" ? I installed kea-dhcp4-server but I don't find it and there is no keactrl in kea-admin package
[17:03] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, you mean in my Network section of my VM box config?  I have the 'attached to' set to Bridge Adapter
[17:03] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: yes
[17:03] <ccha5> on upstream documentation http://kea.isc.org/docs/kea-guide.html#keactrl
[17:04] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: so it was already set to bridge?
[17:04] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, yes
[17:04] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: and what is the ip seen on both your windows and linux box
[17:05] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, interesting, they are different
[17:06] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, my winbox have 192.168.1.9 and my ubuntu box has 192.168.1.18
[17:06] <ducasse> Lee_76: they should be different
[17:06] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: different no they are on the same subnet
[17:06] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, ok
[17:06] <sacarlson2> try ping from ubuntu to win  ping 192.168.1.9
[17:07] <ducasse> !pm | involved
[17:07] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, timeout
[17:07] <sacarlson2> oh maybe win won't ping back anyway so try the other way
[17:07] <ducasse> involved: ask them yourself. if you need to register first, then do that.
[17:07] <sacarlson2> from win ping 192.168.18
[17:07] <sacarlson2> opps
[17:07] <sacarlson2> ping 192.168.1.18
[17:08] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, I did that, timeout
[17:08] <sacarlson2> sounds like some kind of firewall setting
[17:08] <Lee_76> on the win side?
[17:08] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, or ubuntu?
[17:09] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: most likly on the windows side or maybe even your router
[17:09] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, how come I can share and see folders on all of my win boxes
[17:10] <sacarlson2> that would probly indicate it's not on the router side.  I'm not sure
[17:10] <sacarlson2> is it posible you setup firewalls on ubuntu?
[17:11] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, its a new install.  If so, I did not configure it myself
[17:11] <sacarlson2> try ping the router I assume it's at 192.168.1.1
[17:11] <Lee_76> sacarlson2,  from ubunt?
[17:11] <sacarlson2> yes
[17:11] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, that works
[17:12] <sacarlson2> might you have more than one ethernet port in hardware and or software emulation?
[17:13] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, you ean more than one ethernet connection in my router?
[17:13] <Lee_76> *mean
[17:13] <sacarlson2> fell free for anyone else to step in as I'm running out of ideas
[17:13] <sacarlson2> no on the computers
[17:14] <ducasse> ccha5: there is no keactrl anywhere in the ubuntu repos
[17:15] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, only one ethernet connection
[17:15] <sacarlson2> we might try look at what the iptables looks like on linux side with sudo iptables -L  pastebin to us somehow
[17:15] <ccha5> ducasse: yes that's what I see too. Why ?
[17:15] <ducasse> ccha5: no idea, i know nothing about that package.
[17:17] <ducasse> ccha5: i'm guessing you are expected to use systemctl instead to start/stop the service
[17:19] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, http://pastebin.com/xXNC5sqg
[17:19] <Melamo> I've broken my DB backup script twice, and I didn't notice for some time because cron fails silently other than a bit of reporting to /var/log/syslog. Is there a way to make cron fail loudly so when I typo a contrab file, or a script being run returns a non 0 status?
[17:19] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: ok
[17:19] <ccha5> keactrl does more that use a sart stop
[17:20] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: no firewall on linux side
[17:20] <Kirito> I'm guessing HDCP support is not currently possible in Linux?
[17:20] <Kirito> Even with Nvidia drivers obtaining DRM support
[17:20] <ducasse> ccha5: as i said, no idea. just saw it did that from a quick search.
[17:21] <ducasse> Kirito: it hopefully never will be.
[17:21] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: you say you had other windows systems on that net, can you have any of them try ping the ubuntu box
[17:21] <ccha5> thank you ducasse
[17:21] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, let me try that
[17:22] <rcs32> is there an old-releases equivalent to packages.ubuntu.com?
[17:22] <Kirito> Amazon: Won't sell Chromecast devices on Amazon, won't support streaming videos via Chromecast through Amazon Video, and won't let you stream videos in anything but horrendous quality on Chrome Linux
[17:22] <Kirito> My care level for Amazon is dropping rapidly
[17:23] <ducasse> rcs32: probably not, eol releases are not supported in any way so you shouldn't need it
[17:23] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, I can ping the other windows machine from my ubuntu machine
[17:24] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: from ubuntu you can ping windows?  I wasn't even sure that could be done
[17:24] <ducasse> Kirito: the kernel devs refuse to implement a video 'secure path', so it won't happen.
[17:24] <sacarlson2> so must be a firewall on that other windows box
[17:24] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, yes, I can ping all of my windows machines from my ubuntu machine
[17:24] <sacarlson2> make sure that windows box can also ping the router
[17:25] <ccha5> rcs32: on packages.ubuntu.com there are since precise
[17:25] <sacarlson2> oh including our first target windows, you can now ping that?
[17:25] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, take one comment I made back
[17:26] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, I can ping from my desktop to my ubuntu box without any problems
[17:26] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: on all but one windows box?
[17:27] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, yes
[17:27] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: ok then you can focus on the firewall this is on that box and that is not our problem that is a windows problem
[17:28] <eelstrebor> i'm trying to decide on which is better for streaming - roku or chromecast or plex or something else
[17:28] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, ok.  I will see if I need to edit my smb.conf file
[17:28] <ducasse> Lee_76: try this, see if anything helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide
[17:28] <leleTDI> hi
[17:28] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: no your problem is lower than that
[17:29] <sacarlson2> it's in the firewall of your windows box
[17:29] <Lee_76> sacarlson2, ok. thank you
[17:29] <ducasse> eelstrebor: streaming from what to what?
[17:29] <eelstrebor> from a dvb device to wherever in my home
[17:29] <ducasse> sacarlson2: can be both, if he can't connect to smb resources on the other machines either
[17:30] <eelstrebor> i guess kodi is another option?
[17:30] <sacarlson2> ok if we pick another target computer that does ping then we can again isolate why they also won't work on samba
[17:31] <ducasse> eelstrebor: yes, but i know nothing about dvb. also look at emby rather than plex, it is open software
[17:31] <rcs32> ducasse: for example, is there any way to tell what version of a package was used in hardy?
[17:31] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: remove the none ping windows from any part of isolating samba problem
[17:33] <ducasse> rcs32: not that i know of, no. it's an eol release, nobody should need to.
[17:33] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: there used to be a way to do a direct connect  from ubuntu to samba from filemanager
[17:33] <linos> sacarlson2, my laptop died on me  I'm using a different name now
[17:33] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: I have had in the past problems with the computers not originaly appearing but they would connect if directed with samba
[17:34] <sacarlson2> Lee_76: well did you recieve how you can use filemanager to connect direct to a windows computer with samba
[17:39] <_28_ria> Hello, "env|grep XDG_DATA_DIRS" gives some systemwide data dirs (in Ubuntu 16.04), but, when I tried it in Ubuntu 14.04. It doesn't have this env variable, Is there something similar, I could use for this in Ubuntu 14.04? maybe some core utility or some text file in the /proc, or something?
[17:40] <sacarlson2> _28_ria: you want to change your default env at start of a term of an account?
[17:42] <sacarlson2> _28_ria: if so you might be looking at the export command
[17:44] <brmmm3> Hi, what is the best practice to manage shared data on a multiuser desktop? I've got a desktop for several users, encrypted homes, and a separate partition with shared data (pictures, music, videos, documents, etc.). Problems are always wrong access rights for new files. When user foo creates a file then file has user and group foo. Because user bar has wrong group then this user can't access this file. How do I solve such problems?
[17:45] <MrMessy_> after installing TLP for battery saving on laptop, xrandr can't detect my HDMI monitor. I uninstalled TLP and  it still not working. Tried 2 different monitors with different cables. Everything was working before TLP install. Any ideas?
[17:47] <sacarlson2> brmmm3: maybe setup groups that all your shares will be a part of and setup ssh servers on each that have a shared user name that is part of that group
[17:48] <sacarlson2> brmmm3: with ssh you can use sftp to move or sync files between units
[17:49] <chudak> Good morning all!  I am wondering if RAW ubuntu desktop image can be found somewhere?
[17:49] <brmmm3> Why use ssh or sftp when all drives are on the same computer???
[17:50] <sacarlson2> brmmm3:  oh when I saw multi user I assumed more than one computer.  then all the same with the groups
[17:50] <sacarlson2> brmmm3:  just skip the ssh part
[17:51] <sacarlson2> brmmm3: create a share group and any file that a user wants to allow other to share they would set that file to that group
[17:51] <brmmm3> I currently have "solved" it using a unique group for all users. The setup is that user foo is member of groups foo and users and group bar is member of groups bar and users. But every time a user, e.g. foo creates a file the file gets user and group foo.foo.
[17:51] <brmmm3> So user bar cannot access this file
[17:52] <Count_H> hello
[17:52] <brmmm3> How can I force Linux to create all files on the special partition for shared data to have always group users
[17:52] <brmmm3> ?
[17:53] <dharma> Hi, i rebooted ubuntu in recovery modebut now i have a prompt and no clue
[17:53] <brmmm3> On Windows this is very easy because everyone can access all files which are not in users private directories
[17:53] <TheAGuy> Hey, sorry im a newbie, could any of you direct me to a course of IT Security
[17:54] <sacarlson2> brmmm3: there must be a better way but you could have a cron job that checks every x min to do chmod to correct to be sure that some dir has all files and subdir set as you want
[17:54] <brmmm3> But on Linux I have no simple solution
[17:54] <Count_H> hahah a guy
[17:54] <sacarlson2> opps I think it's chown
[17:54] <dharma> I needed to free u space because it could not boot prolly due to no space to read config file
[17:54] <brmmm3> sacarlson2: This is a very bad hack
[17:54] <sacarlson2> brmmm3: why is that?
[17:55] <dharma> Excuse typos my vision is bad and i am on my phone
[17:55] <minimec> brmmm3: http://superuser.com/a/277785
[17:55] <brmmm3> Imagine the parition has 2TB with 300000 files....
[17:56] <sacarlson2> brmmm3: good point
[17:56] <brmmm3> There must be a solution like a special mount option to force all created files on this parition to have the group users
[17:56] <dharma> I tried to select ""Free up space" from recovery menu but it didnt accept carriage return as ok
[17:56] <brmmm3> Or is there an advanced system library which can do this on directory level
[17:57] <brmmm3> This would be a VERY elegant solution
[17:57] <minimec> brmmm3: again... http://superuser.com/a/277785
[17:57] <brunch875> great solution
[17:57] <dharma> How do i exit and restart from cmd line?
[17:57] <sacarlson2> brmmm3: ya minimec idea sounds perfect chmod g+s dir
[17:57] <brunch875> I'll write that one down
[17:58] <Count_H> where do i find out the security problems with using ubuntu as a production server
[17:58] <brmmm3> minimec: Thanks! This a the solution I was searching for.
[17:58] <Count_H> what weakneses does it have and how do i protect against them
[17:59] <jatt> Count_H: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/security.html
[17:59] <sacarlson2> Count_H: the security of ubuntu off the self is quite good.  it's what you do to it after you install it is the mater
[18:00] <SchrodingersScat> !permissions | brmmm3
[18:00] <asdf-> i screwed up a partition, created an image of the hdd using dd and now im trying to figure out how to fix the partition table so I can access the date in the image... http://pastebin.com/NY3Ckj1C
[18:00] <dharma> Ok i did sudo reboot and it's rebooting
[18:00] <asdf-> can anyone recommend anything?
[18:01] <dharma> Now Recovery Menu won't let me select "clean"...what do i do?
[18:03] <Count_H> sacarlson2:  so if i installed a vpn server and left too many ports open for example or employed weak authentication . something like that
[18:05] <dharma> I know the problem file, it's a .deb i didn't delete yet, but im stuck in Recovery Mode loop
[18:05] <sacarlson2> Count_H: more like software flaws in software that touch the ports for example the old oscomerce had a flaw that opened the admin file manager up to move file and read most any file on the system that www-data could read
[18:06] <SchrodingersScat> asdf-: how have you tried to mount it?
[18:06] <sacarlson2> Count_H: so isolation between layers is needed when one breaks it won't take down everything
[18:07] <sacarlson2> Count_H: leave any files readable or writeable to any process if it doesn't need it
[18:08] <sacarlson2> don't
[18:08] <eelstrebor> hmm, emby isn't in the repositories
[18:08] <dharma> I'm at cmd prompt in ubuntu now, i just need to.navigate to the file and delete it, and restart
[18:09] <dharma> But I'm not sure how
[18:09] <gonuion> how to convert video to mp3 ??
[18:09] <dharma> I think it involves rm at some point
[18:10] <SchrodingersScat> !info ffmpeg | gounion
[18:10] <dharma> But then i have to rm it from the trash, no?
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> !info winff | gonuion
[18:10] <sacarlson2> Count_H: also make sure you don't leave ssh port open on default port it will always be hit by attackers, even with minimal chance if you have good passwords but it still takes resources off your system each time they try
[18:10] <dharma> Or is rm perma delete?
[18:10] <SchrodingersScat> dharma: rm does not place things in trash, once you hit return it's effectively gone.
[18:11] <dharma> Oh good thanks, now i just have to list files in home or somewhere
[18:11] <SchrodingersScat> !tab | dharma: cd to change directories, tab complete helps, and then use rm when you're sure
[18:11] <SchrodingersScat> !find | dharma
[18:11] <SchrodingersScat> hmm
[18:12] <dharma> Thx i will try now
[18:12] <mircx1> Hello i need please a help what i need install in ubuntu version 14.04 for it  PEAK Library (libpeak)?
[18:12] <SchrodingersScat> dharma: find is a useful tool, find ~ -iname "*partofnameoffile*"
[18:13] <dharma> Great thanks
[18:13] <mircx1> someone?
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> !find libpeak
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> mircx1  looks like you have to install lmms
[18:15] <dharma> Picked too eide search fragment and the screen keeps scrolling lol
[18:15] <dharma> wide*
[18:15] <mircx1> then this mean i need install lmms?
[18:16] <ducasse> mircx1: what is libpeak for?
[18:17] <mircx1> configure: error: required PEAK Library (libpeak) not found
[18:17] <ducasse> mircx1: what are you trying to compile?
[18:17] <mircx1> this http://pxys.sourceforge.net/pxys2-doc.html
[18:19] <ducasse> mircx1: then no, you probably need something else that's not in ubuntu. read the docs for what you are trying to build.
[18:20] <mircx1> ok thanks
[18:20] <dharma> How do i make it stop scrolling and get a ptompt?
[18:20] <agile_prg> hi all, I have a laptop with windows xp, no cdrom, can someone tell me how to install ubuntu on it?
[18:20] <crafty1_> agile_prg: put ubuntu onto a usb
[18:20] <agile_prg> I don't have a usb drive either
[18:21] <crafty1_> do you have an external dvd drive
[18:21] <agile_prg> no
[18:21] <SchrodingersScat> dharma: ctrl-c to close most things
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> agile_prg  download .iso ... put .iso on usb/dvd ... boot from usb/dvd ... follow instructions
[18:21] <sacarlson2> agile_prg: if grub2 is already installed you may have the option to boot an iso direct from grub2 from your sata disk
[18:22] <agile_prg> grub2 is not installed
[18:22] <sacarlson2> agile_prg: what is installed?
[18:22] <dharma> Oh thank you, that was endless
[18:22] <agile_prg> windows xp
[18:22] <SchrodingersScat> dharma: and if it's a deb, you can do something like find ~ -iname "*partofname*.deb" , or if you have a general idea where it is then can just cd there now.
[18:23] <SchrodingersScat> !info ncdu | dharma: are you deleting this to recover space?  ncdu is also a handy tool for that.
[18:24] <crafty1_> agile_prg: Beyond USB and an external drive you can PXE boot it.  Otherwise buy a drive
[18:24] <sacarlson2> agile_prg: I'm not sure how you would do it but the tool plop https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html seems to boot from anything
[18:24] <sacarlson2> agile_prg: but your better off barowing a usb flash drive
[18:25] <gdev> Can somebody tell me how to find out which esata version / max speed my esata port supports (laptop)? (ubuntu 16.04). My manufactor doesnt provide any informations about that
[18:25] <dharma> How do i address ppl here
[18:25] <dharma> Thanks and yes SchrodingersCat
[18:25] <SchrodingersScat> !tab | dharma, type the first 2-3 letters of their name then hit tab.
[18:25] <dharma> Ok
[18:25] <dharma> Sch
[18:26] <SchrodingersScat> dharma: great, that fix you up?  and may not work in all clients ;(
[18:26] <dharma> Oops ...on phone how?
[18:26] <dharma> No I'm on a tiny phone and slow
[18:26] <zamanf> hi
[18:28] <dharma> It gave me the filename complaining about my *.deb syntax lol
[18:28] <brohan> Hello all. I have had to replace my hdd. My home dir was on a seperate partition, which I copied to an external drive. I have reintalled ubuntu with my same username and password.
[18:28] <brohan> Te restore the rest do I merely copy my home directory back to the one that was created on install, then reinstall the programs?
[18:28] <eelstrebor> i'm not going to bother installing emby - a LOT of dependency issues - i just don't the time to solve this
[18:29] <crafty1_> brohan: yes
[18:29] <dharma> I do have my Linux Unleashed and my.magnifying glass
[18:29] <dharma> Ready to rm
[18:30] <crafty1_> brohan: be amazed at the convenience
[18:30] <brohan> crafty1_: when I reinstall the programs, they will not overwrite any setting files correct? For instance reinstalling chromium, it will keep my previous bookmarks, etc?
[18:30] <crafty1_> brohan: I would install the programs first; then copy over the old settings; good question
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> brohan  bookmarks are backed up with chromium
[18:31] <crafty1_> Yeah Chrome bookmarks you generally export to HTML file
[18:31] <dharma> It asked if it can remove the file? Can. i answer yes?
[18:32] <brohan> crafty1_: MonkeyDust: oops. I started copying my old home before installing. Should I stop this, or let it continue, reboot / install, then simply re-copy all the hidden home directories
[18:32] <crafty1_> brohan: I mean worse case scenario you just copy the . folders again
[18:32] <brohan> crafty1_: sounds good. Thanks
[18:32] <crafty1_> Im just not sure like if you use IRSSI and reinstall it if it will overwrite the old .irssi folder for example
[18:32] <dharma> Yes!
[18:33] <dharma> It appears to be rebooting
[18:33] <SchrodingersScat> dharma: nice
[18:33] <dharma> Oh thank you and everything holy
[18:33] <sacarlson2> nite all
[18:33] <dharma> That was scary
[18:34] <renee> can't do update!Help!saying,error hash sum mismatch.Here is the full stuffs http://paste.ubuntu.com/19800671/
[18:34] <dharma> Will get on proper Xchat in a moment
[18:34] <ducasse> eelstrebor: there is at least a docker image available.
[18:35] <simon__> ok i'm back from the desktop
[18:35] <simon__> test
[18:35] <SchrodingersScat> simon__: received
[18:35] <OerHeks> renee, seems like the .IN mirror is beiing synced, so wait a minute and try again?
[18:36] <simon__> my nick is messed up now
[18:36] <ducasse> renee: just wait and try later
[18:36] <SchrodingersScat> !nick | simon__
[18:36] <renee> I have been trying this for the whole day :D What does the error mean?
[18:37] <SchrodingersScat> renee: probably that they're in the process of updating themselves
[18:37] <zamanf> ηι
[18:37] <GentooisDeath> Hello everyone! I am in DIRE need of your help! I was going to install Gentoo from USB to an external hard drive. When I ran the minimal installer from the USB, it seems to have automatically deleted my boot partition! When I try to boot into ubuntu with my internal HDD I arrive at the grub rescue prompt. Is there any hope?
[18:37] <ducasse> renee: use another mirror, then.
[18:37] <simon__> oh i have to sign out on my phone first lol
[18:37] <crafty1_> Gentoo would not do anything automatically I can promise you that
[18:38] <crafty1_> the minimal installer is just a shell prompt.  it does nothing when it boots
[18:38] <dharma> sch
[18:38] <GentooisDeath> It asked me if I wanted to "Boot from harddrive?" And I hit enter. Then arrived at a command prompt. I did nothing else and turned off my PC. When I tried to boot back into ubuntu I arrived at grub rescue.
[18:38] <dharma> the 3 letter trick to type names is not working hm
[18:38] <dharma> Sch
[18:39] <crafty1_> depending on how many matches with Sch there are you may have to use another character.  Its like a bash prompt
[18:39] <crafty1_> Works for me though to SchrodingersScat
[18:40] <SchrodingersScat> dharma: works for me in weechat ;(
[18:40] <agile_prg> I found a 250 mb usb drive with only 220 mb free space
[18:40] <ducasse> dharma: you need to press tab
[18:40] <dharma> oh i did it wrong i'm sorry
[18:40] <agile_prg> is there a net installer for ubuntu?
[18:40] <GentooisDeath> crafty1_ do you have any idea what could have happened? The Gentoo install literally asked me nothing else.
[18:41] <dharma> SchrodingersScat, are you able to repost what you said earlier about ncurses?
[18:41] <SchrodingersScat> !mini | agile_prg: ok, the mini.iso is only 54M
[18:41] <dharma> SchrodingersScat, i missed that on my tiny phone
[18:41] <crafty1_> GentooisDeath: Did you run any partitioning commands?
[18:41] <SchrodingersScat> !info ncdu | dharma: this?
[18:41] <agile_prg> can it use a wireless internet?
[18:41] <crafty1_> Question may be better directed to #gentoo
[18:42] <GentooisDeath> No I did not All I did was boot the USB and hit Enter once when prompted if I wanted to boot from the hardrive
[18:42] <OerHeks> agile_prg, no, wired network only
[18:42] <crafty1_> So if you take the USB out and reboot does it not go back into Ubuntu
[18:42] <GentooisDeath> No it boots into grub rescue
[18:42] <OerHeks> agile_prg, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD\
[18:42] <crafty1_> GentooisDeath:  Did you change boot priority or anything in BIOS
[18:43] <GentooisDeath> No I checked that as well
[18:43] <dharma> SchrodingersScat, i dunno, it was something to do with alternatives to using rm to make space or something
[18:43] <crafty1_> GentooisDeath: can you get a rescue bash shell?  There is generally an option.  We can check fstab
[18:43] <SchrodingersScat> dharma: yep, I like ncdu for checking what's using the most space to try to trim things down.
[18:44] <dharma> all that fuss to install a newer OpenOffice just to get Base to read my app's note files from the SQLite3 database and the install doesn't even appear to have worked
[18:44] <ducasse> !bootrepair | GentooisDeath
[18:44] <GentooisDeath> I checked to see what partition were available in grub. Only hd(0) is available. And when I used the command ls hd(0) it returned this error: "Filesystem is unknown"
[18:44] <GentooisDeath> thank you ubottu
[18:44] <GentooisDeath> Currently when I check in Discs it says my main HD has 240GB (100%) free space
[18:44] <dharma> SchrodingersScat, ah ok it sounds kinda like Windows TreeSize app to me, very useful tool
[18:45] <GentooisDeath> But I did enable disc encryption when I installed ubuntu
[18:45] <crafty1_> GentooisDeath: I would possibly ask the people over in #gentoo because it's been a while since I lost my mind on Gentoo; the process may have changed.  Also give that boot-repair a shot.
[18:45] <GentooisDeath> Will do thank you all for your help
[18:45] <GentooisDeath> Going to be so screwed if I can't get my data back
[18:46] <dharma> i think i give up on OpenOffice to read this SQL file, i need another utility for manipulating databases now
[18:46] <crafty1_> Its there; I mean if you didnt mess with partitioning its still there.
[18:46] <GentooisDeath> #gentoo is on their main channel (on freenode)
[18:46] <GentooisDeath> *is their main channel
[18:46] <crafty1_> I think; I mean personally I dont remember an option to "boot from hard disk".
[18:46] <dharma> or i'll just wait til i get my new bigger HDD so i can actually get a newer Ubuntu and install more stuff
[18:47] <GentooisDeath> I was thinking maybe tere was some error I didn't notice, which made it unable to boot from USB. And therefor it copied itself to my HD. But it seems like there would be some space used on my HD. And also it took only moments to reach the command line. If it formatted, and repartioned, it seems it would have taken longer
[18:48] <ducasse> GentooisDeath: you most likely just need to reinstall grub or something like that, see the link ubottu gave you.
[18:50] <zamanf> HEY
[18:52] <crafty1_> !ask | zamanf
[18:53] <dharma> i think my openoffice did install because it's saying 3.2, and before install attempt Synaptic told me it was 1.3 or something
[18:54] <dharma> but i can't find OpenOffice's Base in there, it's not in the menu
[19:01] <creeep> what does hash sum mismatch error mean while updating
[19:01] <dharma> i found the openoffice executables and base is not in there
[19:02] <ducasse> creeep: that you need to try later or use another mirror
[19:02] <dharma> it's telling me this software cannot be authenticated (back to square one)
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> dharma  current openoffice is version 5.1
[19:02] <dharma> when i mark the Base component for install
[19:03] <dharma> so it can't authenticate it because my installation is ancient?
[19:03] <creeep> ducasse, is there a way to change mirror and automatically revert to current mirror after rebooting?
[19:03] <ducasse> creeep: not that i know of
[19:04] <ducasse> creeep: it would be an easy script to write, though
[19:04] <dharma> can i go ahead and mark for install anyway and see what happens?
[19:04] <creeep> ducasse, is this happening because there are too many people using the same mirror or something?
[19:05] <ducasse> creeep: no, probably because it is updating
[19:05] <creeep> ducasse,okay thanks
[19:05] <vlt> Hello. I’m installing Ubuntu 16.04 on an HP "x2 tablet notebook" (using the standard ISO image written to a USB drive). This is my first installation on a tablet. Is there something I should know? Something to configure other than usually because it’s tablet?
[19:05] <ducasse> creeep: i've also seen updating fail, so you need to wait 24 hours for the next time the mirror updates
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> !tablet | vlt
[19:06] <dharma> i'm gonna click install anyway because i think it may just be a repository issue, not from any malware risk
[19:06] <dharma> oh it can't fetch the files now lol
[19:06] <vlt> MonkeyDust: Thank you!
[19:06] <creeep> ducasse, okay.I'm really impatient :D
[19:08] <ducasse> creeep: then use another mirror :)
[19:09] <Bashing-om> dharma: "  because my installation is ancient " : How ancient ? what returns ' lsb_release -a ' ?
[19:09] <ducasse> creeep: (there probably aren't any updates on a sunday anyway, btw)
[19:10] <creeep> ducasse, That's right.Any other reason why this error would pop up?
[19:10] <ducasse> creeep: nope.
[19:11] <dharma> Bashing-om, i'm on ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> !10.04
[19:11] <Bashing-om> !10.04 | dharma
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> dharma  you're working with a corpse
[19:12] <dharma> MonkeyDust, lol
[19:12] <dharma> Bashing-om, oh you want me to type a command in the terminal
[19:13] <Bashing-om> dharma: Well .. no - not now that we know the root cause of the issue .. the repo for 10.04 no longer exists .
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> dharma  upgrade first, then ask again
[19:14] <dharma> Bashing-om, oh ok, well i got the install package off of the apache site but it was the redhat version i had to convert to deb
[19:15] <dharma> MonkeyDust, i can't upgrade right now
[19:15] <Bashing-om> dharma: I do suggest a clean fresh install of 16.04 ... so much has changed since 10.04 the likely hood of a in-line upgrade succeeding is slim to none .
[19:15] <creeep> !12.04
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> dharma  there's no help for 10.04
[19:16] <dharma> MonkeyDust, i'll see what i can do - i have no space on the drive, computer is old, it's a dual boot and it's overwhelming for me to figure out how to redo it all
[19:17] <dharma> i was gonna wait until i get a larger hdd but maybe i should just clean off the data and live with my *one* solitary copy on external drive.... and try to redo the dual boot with newer ubuntu
[19:17] <dharma> plus i use truecrypt so that's one more level of complexity :/
[19:20] <pepee> http://worldwidemann.com/the-sad-state-of-linux-download-security/  ubuntu doesn't even offer https.
[19:20] <mwd> dharma, you could abandon truecrypt and use LUKS
[19:20] <dharma> mwd i think i heard about LUKS at the LUG actually
[19:21] <ducasse> pepee: take it to #ubuntu-discuss
[19:21] <dharma> there hasn't been an installfest for a long time around here, i always have hardware problems trying to install
[19:21] <pepee> ducasse, ok, thanks
[19:22] <ioria> dharma, cpu and ram ?
[19:22] <dharma> oh disk-level encryption
[19:23] <dharma> RAM 1.8GB, CPU Athlon LE-1640
[19:23] <ioria> i see, thanx
[19:24] <dharma> ordering anything online is complicated becuase of my situation but that's another story... so i don't have the new drive yet
[19:24] <atralheaven_> Hi, I want to report a bug, please take a look at this: http://i.imgur.com/gAXUmwL.png I think its because of qt5, I have two menus here!
[19:25] <dharma> can i keep the Vista install stuff on here for later and fresh install Ubuntu 12?
[19:25] <atralheaven_> in another program, the menu is only on the window, not at the top bar
[19:25] <pepee> does anyone have problems with chromium freezing when the computer is idling?
[19:25] <Bashing-om> dharma: Single code CPU ? Consider: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[19:25] <mwd> two menus is better than one
[19:25] <Aaron> lol
[19:25] <Bashing-om> code/core*
[19:25] <pepee> chromium 51.0.2704.79, running on Ubuntu 16.04 (64-bit)
[19:25] <pepee> well, Kubuntu
[19:26] <dharma> Bashing-om, yes this was my goal Lubuntu or Xubuntu but i wonder if i tried and had problems, i forgot how i ended up with this install but i vaguely recall it being the only thing i had on hand that successfully installed
[19:26] <atralheaven_> please someone report that bug! thanks
[19:27] <ducasse> Asandari: if you want it reported do it yourself
[19:27] <ducasse> sorry, Asandari
[19:27] <Bashing-om> dharma: Well old hardware .. many times it is the X stack ( X server ) that has support for the graphic card in use .
[19:27] <dharma> i can't trust making a recovery CD from this machine if my Vista partition was infected, though, can i?
[19:28] <dharma> Bashing-om, i see
[19:30] <Bashing-om> dharma: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2130640&highlight=hardware <-Old hardware brought back to life .
[19:30] <Xin> old hardware, now to become wife?
[19:31] <dharma> Bashing-om, you're right... i just need to plan this out with my Windows (or ditch Windows altogether)
[19:31] <dharma> whatever i do, i don't want Systemd =d
[19:32] <Bashing-om> dharma: Use the tools that you use the best .. Windows Might still be of use ( I ditched Windows a Long time back and have never looked back ) .
[19:33] <dharma> the only reason i want windows on a partition is just for those rare things that may only run on Windows
[19:33] <dharma> like Silverlight
[19:35] <curlyears> OK.   I have the 16.04 .iso.   I want to use dd to burn an installer disk on my DVD drive, but I can't seem to locate the name of the dricve, or it's locationinthe filesystem. so I don't know how to complete the dd command.
[19:35] <curlyears> help please?
[19:36] <ducasse> curlyears: you can't burn with dd
[19:36] <SourceSlayer> Hey guys
[19:36] <SourceSlayer> I have no sound
[19:36] <ioria> wodim
[19:36] <SourceSlayer> In the sound menu, it says it's outputting to headphones but there are none plugged in
[19:37] <SourceSlayer> Nothing is coming from the speakers and I already tried restarting Pulse
[19:37] <SourceSlayer> Any ideas on how ot correct his?
[19:38] <Aaron> SourceSlayer, add your username to the audio group
[19:38] <SourceSlayer> How do I do that?
[19:38] <Aaron> sudo adduser username audio
[19:39] <SourceSlayer> Aaron: Do I have to restart now?
[19:39] <Aaron> try restarting X
[19:39] <SourceSlayer> It's still silent.
[19:39] <SourceSlayer> Okay
[19:39] <SourceSlayer> brb
[19:40] <curlyears> dang
[19:42] <SourceSlayer> Aaron: Still nothing
[19:42] <Aaron> SourceSlayer, then restart the computer
[19:42] <SourceSlayer> I ran sudo restart lightdm
[19:42] <SourceSlayer> Okay
[19:43] <curlyears> well, dagnab it, ,Brasero won't let me do it, the box to select input source is greyed out when the output is set to m y DVD writer )-:
[19:46] <mkquist> silly question-how to use single click to open files in 16.04
[19:46] <ioria> nautilus -> preferences -> behavior
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> mkquist  open nautilus ... edit, preferences, behaviour
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> ioria  was faster
[19:46] <ioria> ^_^
[19:47] <dharma> i think i should make the recovery CD for vista, and get all my data off, and try a light Ubuntu install
[19:47] <dharma> does anyone know if Vista or Ubuntu gets installed first?
[19:47] <mkquist> MonkeyDust: that's the thing... I dont find preferences...
[19:47] <SourceSlayer> Aaron, it's still trying to output to nonexistent headphones
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> mkquist  under Edit
[19:48] <Aaron> SourceSlayer, did you put the right user name?
[19:48] <SourceSlayer> Yes
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> mkquist  what filemanager is it?
[19:48] <SourceSlayer> Aaron, my audio used to work fine, could it be a screwed up port?
[19:48] <Aaron> Maybe.
[19:48] <ducasse> SourceSlayer: run pavucontrol and amixer and check the settings
[19:49] <dharma> ok vista goes first
[19:49] <mkquist> MonkeyDust: nautilus I believe... default for 16.04
[19:49] <dharma> mwd can i install LUKS at any time or does it have to be at install?
[19:49] <ceed^> mkquist, Menu > Edit > Preferences
[19:49] <ioria> mkquist, hover the mouse on left corner
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> mkquist  maximimze the window, then click Edit
[19:50] <ducasse> dharma: if you want to encrypt the root fs you need to do it at install time
[19:50] <dharma> i can always put the important data back on the drive, leaving enough space
[19:50] <dharma> ducasse, oh
[19:51] <curlyears> Brasero doesn't work,. clicking on the .iso to write a DVD doesn't work, I am told dd won't do it, how in &^%^&$%&*$%*$%   do I do it.?  I've tried what the documents on the ubuntu site have recommended, none of it seems to work
[19:51] <curlyears> I am in 14.04.4 trying to build a usable 16.04 install DVD from a .iso
[19:51] <ioria> curlyears, i don't know why brasero not working, but on cli you can use wodim
[19:52] <mwd> dharma, luks runs below your fs, so at install, assuming you mean for your system partition
[19:52] <curlyears> either I can't specify the output I want
[19:52] <curlyears> wodim?
[19:52] <mkquist> ioria: no luck.. this is just silly, never had a problem with previous releases..
[19:52] <ioria> curlyears, man wodim
[19:53] <ioria> mkquist,  you mean you don't have File Edit View ? etc
[19:53] <ceed^> mquist, Do you have Ubuntu set to show the menu in the window bar or the top bar? Try hover the top bar with Nautilus in focus
[19:53] <mkquist> ioria: nope... doesnt appear to be...  looking
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> mkquist  can you show a screenshot ... http://imgur.com/
[19:55] <zamanf> /topic
[19:55] <curlyears> *wow*  wodim is prety complex, and when I do wodim --help | more, the top of the help file scrolls off the top of my screen before more kicks in )-:
[19:55] <jingo> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu on my computer (windows 10) and now after the installation I get: error no such partition entering rescue mode. any idea how to solve this issue?
[19:55] <dharma> mwd, thanks that's what ducasse said i think
[19:55] <curlyears> there are an awful lot of options in wodim, almost none of which make much sense to me.  And how do I specify the input file and the output device?
[19:56] <dharma> i have to unencrypt my truecrypt stuff before migrating, right?
[19:56] <mkquist> MonkeyDust: http://imgur.com/AUMMN9s
[19:56] <ducasse> curlyears: you could try bashburn for a simpler way
[19:56] <ioria> curlyears, wodim -v -eject dev=/dev/cdrw  (or sr0, or dvd) speed=8 image.iso
[19:57] <mkquist> MonkeyDust: I must have set something incorrectly...
[19:58] <zamanf> ok
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> mkquist  looks different from my nautilus, in unity ... the arrow icon on the right, what is that
[19:58] <ioria> mkquist, system settings -> appearance -> behavior  go to show the menu for a windows ....  what you have ?
[19:59] <ceed^> mkquist, are you in GNOME or Unity?
[20:00] <bradyyy> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :tes
[20:00] <curlyears> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19811682/    it failed, here's the output
[20:00] <curlyears> It makes almost no sense to m e
[20:01] <mkquist> ceed^: gnome flashback
[20:01] <curlyears> who recommended bashburn?
[20:01] <ioria> curlyears, which device did you use ?   maybe it's not cdrw, but sr0
[20:02] <curlyears> I used "dvd"  want me to try again with sr0?
[20:02] <ioria> yes
[20:02] <mkquist> ceed^: I'll try unity and see whats up... brb
[20:02] <jingo> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu on my computer (windows 10) and now after the installation I get: error no such partition entering rescue mode. any idea how to solve this issue?
[20:03] <curlyears> that seems to have sorted it , thanks, ioria
[20:03] <ioria> curlyears,  no problem, it takes a while... just wait
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> jingo  did you install ubuntu on its own partition, or inside windows
[20:04] <bradyyy> it's a test
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> bradyyy  not here
[20:04] <crafty1_> jingo: Do you have Secure Boot disabled
[20:04] <jingo> MonkeyDust: I had some free space so I during the Ubuntu installation I created new partition and installed ubuntu on that partition (when I installed windows I left free space for the future Ubuntu installation)
[20:06] <curlyears> ioria:  that seems to have written an install DVD.  I am off to try to boot and install.  Obviously, I'll be a bit
[20:07] <jingo> crafty1_: I cant find this setting on the BIOS
[20:09] <crafty1_> jingo: does it still boot into Win10
[20:10] <dharma> i'll ponder my reinstall later but i know it needs to be done ASAP, it just takes so much energy
[20:10] <dharma> i have a simpler question before i go
[20:10] <jingo> crafty1_: no, I get error message - error no such partition entering rescue mode
[20:11] <SourceSlayer> Aaron, ducasse, do you have a sec
[20:11] <SourceSlayer> I installed pavucontrol but I don't know what setting to look for
[20:11] <Mrasker> hello.
[20:11] <dharma> Ubuntu doesn't put normal folders at the top of the folder list, it mixes them alphabetically with saved web pages' file folders
[20:11] <curlyears> off I go (he said, trying to break his irrational fears)
[20:11] <dharma> so my workaround so I could see folders full of actual files and not saved web pages icons and stuff... was to put a numeral 1 before the filename
[20:12] <Mrasker> could anybody help me? I scanned my ubuntu with clamav and i deleted three files because the seemed t be virus but i'm afraid they were not.
[20:12] <Mrasker> Now i can logg into my account with the graphical interface
[20:12] <dharma> oh god the clamav problems lol... mine never worked then one day it magically started working and scanning everything i downloaded
[20:13] <dharma> so was my workaround the right thing to do so i see my folders listed at the top of the list? or did i overlook some other obvious fix?
[20:14] <Mrasker> these are the files: /usr/share/mime/mime.cache    /usr/lib/mono/4.0/mscorlib.dll       /usr/lib/mono/4.5/mscorlib.dll
[20:16] <crafty1_> jingo: so you cant get into either OS is that right
[20:16] <jingo> crafty1_: right
[20:17] <Mrasker> i get to the login screen. i type the password and it gets me back to the login screen :(
[20:17] <crafty1_> jingo: OK - so does it open the rescue bash shell OK?
[20:18] <crafty1_> Alternatively you can boot off of the USB drive again to get some kind of os
[20:18] <crafty1_> and try to pull up the partition map using gparted and take a look
[20:19] <dharma> thanks for all the help, see you next time :)
[20:19] <Mrasker> i can access the bash shell.
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[20:23] <brohan> Hello. I just did a fresh install of ubuntu, upon reboot I got an error message: boot device not found. I can boot the live usb just fine, and enter BIOS where I have secure boot enabled. During install I did set a efi partition as well
[20:23] <brohan> Any help is appreciated
[20:24] <EriC^^> which laptop brohan ?
[20:24] <brohan> an HP envy dv7
[20:24] <EriC^^> brohan: boot the live usb
[20:24] <brohan> EriC^^: That is what I'm using right now
[20:25] <EriC^^> ok great
[20:25] <EriC^^> open a terminal and type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:26] <brohan> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19815087/
[20:28] <EriC^^> brohan: ok try sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:28] <brohan> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19815327/
[20:29] <EriC^^> brohan: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[20:30] <brohan> EriC^^: Done
[20:30] <EriC^^> brohan: ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:31] <brohan> /mnt:
[20:31] <brohan> total 0
[20:31] <brohan> :-(
[20:32] <EriC^^> brohan: sudo umount /mnt
[20:32] <EriC^^> sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
[20:32] <brohan> EriC^^: /mnt target is busy
[20:32] <EriC^^> cd /
[20:32] <brohan> ok
[20:33] <brohan> EriC^^: Done output of ls is:
[20:33] <brohan> bin  boot  cdrom  dev  etc  home  initrd.img  lib  lib64  media  mnt  opt  proc  rofs  root  run  sbin  snap  srv  sys  tmp  usr  var  vmlinuz
[20:33] <linos> network related question sharing folders and connecting between linux and windows machine.  I configure my smb.conf file and can now see my windows machines, but I cannot connect to them from linux
[20:34] <EriC^^> brohan: cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:35] <brohan> EriC^^: it says: cat: /mnt/etc/fstab: No such file or directory use netcat
[20:35] <EriC^^> brohan: that's odd
[20:36] <EriC^^> try ls -l /mnt/etc | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:36] <brohan> EriC^^: This was a fresh install from liveusb. Obviously 2 drives, the 1st an SSd with /boot efi swap and /, the other with /home
[20:37] <brohan> EriC^^: ls: cannot access "/mnst/etc': No such file or directory
[20:37] <EriC^^> mnt
[20:37] <snkcld> why does the pulseaudio package for ubuntu have --disable-bluez ?
[20:37] <GentooisDeath> Hello guys I am back. I managed to repair boot partition using the Ubuntu Boot-Repair Tool. However it is now not recognizing my password at the "Unlock Encrypted Volume" prompt. I know I am entering the correct password. Is there anything I can try?
[20:37] <brohan> EriC^^: It was mnt, I just typed error vs copy/paste
[20:37] <EriC^^> brohan: ah
[20:37] <brohan> EriC^^: I am copying / pasting your commande though
[20:38] <snkcld> is it because they are compiled as modules, and --disable-bluez disables them from being built in? but they can still be loaded as modules?
[20:38] <EriC^^> brohan: it doesn't make sense though, as you pasted earlier and etc was there..
[20:38] <EriC^^> brohan: do ls -l /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:39] <brohan> EriC^^: total: 0
[20:39] <EriC^^> sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
[20:40] <GentooisDeath> Any idea's why I can't unencrypt my hard-drive after using boot-repair?
[20:40] <brohan> EriC^^: Did that, ls returns a linux structure
[20:40] <EriC^^> brohan: ok, cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:41] <yottameter_> test
[20:41] <brohan> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19816950/
[20:41] <jnor> hi why does "feh --output-dir <somedir>" not work when I save
[20:41] <jnor>  save images *_*
[20:43] <EriC^^> brohan: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[20:43] <brohan> EriC^^: done
[20:44] <EriC^^> brohan: sudo chroot /mnt
[20:45] <brohan> EriC^^: Done
[20:46] <EriC^^> brohan: ok, type mount -a
[20:46] <brohan> EriC^^: Done
[20:46] <EriC^^> brohan: grub-install
[20:47] <brohan> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19817680/
[20:47] <JJ^4884_> hi
[20:47] <brohan> EriC^^: perhaps I have the wrong version, I am running a 64 bit system :-(
[20:48] <EriC^^> brohan: no that's fine
[20:48] <brohan> EriC^^: ok
[20:48] <EriC^^> i think grub for legacy is installed
[20:48] <brohan> EriC^^: The system I made the liveusb is my work comp.
[20:48] <EriC^^> try apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed
[20:50] <brohan> EriC^^: FWIW I had efi enabled in BIOS the whole time. The install is done
[20:51] <EriC^^> try grub-install
[20:51] <brohan> EriC^^:
[20:51] <brohan> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[20:51] <brohan> Installation finished. No error reported.
[20:51] <EriC^^> ok
[20:51] <EriC^^> update-grub
[20:52] <brohan> EriC^^: says done
[20:52] <EriC^^> brohan: ok, now to make sure it boots
[20:53] <brohan> EriC^^: We mounted which device, and then installed and ran grub correct?
[20:53] <EriC^^> mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot && mkdir /boot/efi/EFI/Boot
[20:53] <EriC^^> brohan: yeah
[20:54] <brohan> EriC^^: Copy and paste that whole line,even though this is not a dual boot with any Windows?
[20:54] <EriC^^> brohan: yeah
[20:54] <brohan> EriC^^: which partition did we want to mount. Are we including the Win part b/c they have the signature?
[20:55] <brohan> EriC^^: the mkdir command is done
[20:55] <EriC^^> we mounted sda4 at the beginning
[20:55] <brohan> ok
[20:55] <EriC^^> then chrooted
[20:55] <EriC^^> brohan: cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[20:56] <EriC^^> brohan: cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[20:56] <brohan> EriC^^:  that 1st line failed to work, it returned:
[20:56] <brohan> cp: cannot stat '/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi': No such file or directory
[20:56] <Mitchell92> I'm noticing on my notebook, some issues at times with accessing my email and software repo's are acting weird and hanging
[20:57] <EriC^^> brohan: hmm what's in /boot/efi ? try ls -lR
[20:57] <brohan> EriC^^: is that why you gave the 2nd line, is that to be instead
[20:57] <EriC^^> brohan: no both are
[20:57] <yottameter_> So I want to dual boot on two hard drives. Right now I've got windows 10 on the first hard drive and I want to install ubuntu on the second without affecting the first drive in any way. I want to be able to select which os to boot only by changing the boot order in the bios. I don't want to use grub. How do I make sure that no ubuntu bootloader files are put on the first drive during installation without physically disconnecting 
[20:57] <brohan> EriC^^: entered that command, it is WAY too much
[20:57] <EriC^^> brohan: ls -lR /mnt ?
[20:58] <brohan> says total 0
[20:58] <brohan> :-/
[20:58] <EriC^^> brohan: try ls -lR /boot/efi
[20:59] <brohan> EriC^^:
[20:59] <brohan> total 1044
[20:59] <brohan> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     121 Jul 17 13:51 grub.cfg
[20:59] <brohan> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1067896 Jul 17 13:51 grubx64.efi
[20:59] <EriC^^> yikes
[20:59] <EriC^^> brohan: try mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:00] <EriC^^> and ls -lR /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:00] <curlyears> heigh hough!   I am here under 16.04, finally!   Thanks very much to ioria, especially, but many others helped.  thanks so much, guys (& gals?)
[21:01] <rypervenche> curlyears: Nice^^
[21:02] <brohan> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19819404/
[21:02] <brohan> EriC^^: and: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19819492/
[21:03] <brohan> EriC^^: Should I consider a re-install, It didn't take long to install, just recopy my /home, but I would just leave that alone I think
[21:04] <brohan> EriC^^: Or is then an HP thing?
[21:04] <EriC^^> brohan: nah
[21:04] <EriC^^> brohan: cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[21:04] <curlyears> rypervenche: thanks
[21:04] <EriC^^> brohan: cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[21:04] <Prodox> anyone here willing to help me with an ubuntu installation regarding the boot time in Windows during a dool boot
[21:04] <brohan> EriC^^: Done with no error
[21:05] <curlyears> Eric^^:  my personal ubuntu sacviour!   :p :p
[21:05] <brohan> EriC^^: Both done, no error
[21:05] <curlyears> a "dual" boot, you mean?
[21:05] <EriC^^> brohan: ok, try to reboot
[21:05] <EriC^^> brohan: type exit first
[21:05] <Prodox> mistyped, yes
[21:05] <brohan> WIll be back very soon I hope
[21:05] <StumpDumb> hello all. I'm having problems finding a spanish language learning program can anyone advise. thx
[21:06] <yottameter_> So I want to dual boot on two hard drives. Right now I've got windows 10 on the first hard drive and I want to install ubuntu on the second without affecting the first drive in any way. I want to be able to select which os to boot only by changing the boot order in the bios. I don't want to use grub. How do I make sure that no ubuntu bootloader files are put on the first drive during installation without physically disconnecting 
[21:06] <Prodox> I installed ubuntu a while ago, but Windows took 5-6 minutes to just get past the slash screen. I still need windows for general every day stuff, so I need to figure out how to dual boot so that windows will boot normally (10 sec or so)
[21:07] <Prodox> I read it has something to do with the location of the partitions on the hard drive?
[21:07] <Bashing-om> StumpDumb: Might get a better result in the spanish channel.
[21:08] <Bashing-om> !es | StumpDumb
[21:08] <StumpDumb> thank you
[21:09] <EriC^^> curlyears: :)
[21:09] <capitanocrunch> !fi | capitanocrunch
[21:11] <Guest54694> EriC^^: No go. This time it said something like boot device no authenticated.
[21:11] <EriC^^> Guest54694: disable secureboot
[21:11] <Khal> Hi
[21:11] <Khal> as I can change the dns ubuntu mate
[21:11] <Khal> ?
[21:11] <brohan> EriC^^: Ok, and never turn it back on? I will be enabling legacy correct
[21:12] <EriC^^> brohan: no, leave uefi on, but disable secureboot
[21:12] <brohan> EriC^^: That is also in BIOS correct
[21:13] <brohan> EriC^^: I thought they were one in the same
[21:13] <EriC^^> brohan: yeah
[21:13] <brohan> BRB
[21:13] <EriC^^> ok
[21:16] <bjrohan> EriC^^: I'm back off my ssd. Thank you. Leave secure boot off then
[21:16] <bjrohan> ?
[21:18] <Prodox> ill come back later for help
[21:18] <Khal> I can not access a specific web page
[21:18] <Khal> :/
[21:21] <EriC^^> bjrohan: yeah
[21:21] <EriC^^> bjrohan: no problem
[21:26] <Khal> Thanks
[21:26] <Khal> xd
[21:27] <Khal> Solved.
[21:32] <johntittor2000> hello
[21:32] <johntittor2000> My Ubuntu is dead
[21:32] <johntittor2000> Grub is in rescue mode
[21:34] <johntittor2000> I’ll come back later to ask for help
[21:34] <Bashing-om> johntittor2000: What release ? dual booting Windows, and a Windows' update caused this issue ??
[21:34] <curlyears> since this desktop has wired Ethernet networking only, I don't realy have a way to check if WiFi is working or not.
[21:35] <curlyears> and I don't own any BlueTooth devices, so I can't checkl that, either  *heh*
[21:37] <curlyears> but otherwise 16.04 seems to be working well.   It is certainly faster than 14.04.4 on the same hardware (of course, the SSD ionstaad of an HDD probably accounts for most, if not all, of that perceived performance jump)
[21:49] <khalil_> are there any girls here
[21:50] <compdoc> me me!
[21:50] <k1l_> khalil_: this is a technical support channel for ubuntu. not a dating channel
[21:50] <\9>  !ot | khalil_
[21:50] <Anygma`> i would like help finding python on ubuntu 16.4
[21:50] <\9> what does finding python mean here?
[21:51] <tgm4883> Anygma`: 'which python'
[21:51] <Anygma`> python 3.5.2
[21:51] <k1l_> Anygma`: its already included. what is the real issue?
[21:51] <Anygma`> how to find it, it's not in the menu
[21:51] <bekks> Anygma`: python is a terminal application, its not in the menu.
[21:51] <k1l_> Anygma`: what do you want to do? python is not a program like a brwoser
[21:51] <Anygma`> i understand it's supposed to be there but i'm not a programmer, my son wants to learn...
[21:52] <\9> it is there
[21:52] <\9> every system has python
[21:52] <Anygma`> and idle?
[21:52] <\9> that you'll have to install
[21:53] <multifractal> build failed with: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_thread". But according to this I have boost http://paste.ubuntu.com/19825094/. How do I proceed?
[21:53] <Anygma`> i looked on the net and there are direction for installing idle on ubuntu 14 but i did search for idle for 16.4 and it's not in the software list
[21:53] <ikonia> multifractal: what are you building
[21:54] <tgm4883> !info idle | Anygma`
[21:54] <multifractal> ikonia Caffe ML library
[21:54] <ikonia> multifractal: is there an ubuntu package for it already
[21:54] <multifractal> no
[21:54] <reisio> Anygma`: it's in the default repos, AFAIK; apt-cache search idle; apt-get install idle
[21:55] <ikonia> multifractal: so you need to what it's trying to link against, it will probably be something that it's building itself, thats failing, so it doesn't exist, so it can't link to it, or it could be just a generic library thats missing
[21:55] <ikonia> multifractal: also look where it's trying to find the library
[21:56] <Anygma`> wow, i though ubuntu 16 was using python 3, but typing python in the terminal told me it's using 2.7.12
[21:56] <ikonia> Anygma`: parts will use python 3
[21:56] <ikonia> some apps will depend on python 2
[21:57] <tgm4883> Anygma`: if you want python 3, type python3
[21:57] <\9> Anygma`: the python command is python 2, to use python 3, use python3
[21:58] <\9> there's two versions of python installed on the system (unfortunately)
[21:58] <Anygma`> ah k
[22:01] <Tin_man> Anygma`,  here is a beginners guide to Python, might help you.
[22:01] <Tin_man> http://www.ucs.cam.ac.uk/docs/course-notes/unix-courses/PythonAB/files/handout.pdf
[22:03] <multifractal> ikonia it's trying to build the libcaffe shared object http://paste.ubuntu.com/19826175/ I do have libboost-dev though. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/caffe-users/WmYCNwRixKk recommends reinstalling boost.
[22:03] <multifractal> How do I reinstall boost?
[22:04] <Tin_man> Anygma`, thats probably not a good example it's a course, here is the one I was looking for.
[22:05] <Tin_man> http://www.nervenet.org/pdf/python3handson.pdf
[22:06] <Anygma`> Tin_man, thanks for the link :)
[22:06] <emr> Hello, i'm using ubuntu xenial (4.4.0-31-generic x86_64) usb mouse and keyboard freezes somehow, and dmesg says http://paste.ubuntu.com/19826611/  what could be problem?
[22:06] <Tin_man> no problem, there are a bunch out there, so if that don't do it for you, just look for python beginners pdf
[22:07] <snkcld> is pulseaudio not started by systemd?
[22:07] <snkcld> because it isnt in listed in systemctl
[22:08] <reisio> snkcld: it could be required by something else
[22:08] <reisio> implicitly or not
[22:08] <snkcld> required?
[22:08] <reisio> depended*
[22:09] <reisio> functional but not listed
[22:09] <snkcld> oh
[22:10] <snkcld> i wasnt aware that that was a thing..
[22:25] <_28_ria> Hello, "env|grep XDG_DATA_DIRS" gives some systemwide data dirs (in Ubuntu 16.04), but, when I tried it in Ubuntu 14.04. It doesn't have this env variable, Is there something similar, I could use for this in Ubuntu 14.04? maybe some core utility or some text file in the /proc, or something?
[22:25] <reisio> _28_ria: you can just set it if you want
[22:25] <reisio> _28_ria: if anything is trying to use it, it will use it after you set it
[22:26] <reisio> might want to think about updating sometime
[22:26] <johntittor2000> hello
[22:26] <johntittor2000> i’m in grub rescue
[22:26] <reisio> two years is a long time to avoid updating
[22:26] <reisio> johntittor2000: gj
[22:27] <coolchange> ..
[22:27] <johntittor2000> error: file ‘/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod’ not found
[22:27] <johntittor2000> What do I do?
[22:27] <_28_ria> reisio: I don't need to set it, I need to look at it. Different (u|li)n[iu]x|bsd systems have different systemwide datapaths defined, and I need to be able to dtermain them, crossplatform
[22:27] <Jordan_U> snkcld: Pulseaudio in Ubuntu is run as a user service rather than a syatem wide service, and it looks like upstart is stuill used for managing user sessions / services (though I may be misunderstanding that last bit).
[22:28] <Jordan_U> johntittor2000: Is this a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[22:28] <johntittor2000> Nope, I’ve had it for a while
[22:28] <Jordan_U> johntittor2000: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[22:28] <johntittor2000> Yes
[22:30] <_28_ria> reisio: like, in Ubuntu, global settings dir is /etc, but on some other unix system, I forgot, some bsd type it's /var/etc, On ubuntu - mounted disks show up under /media, but on some unix systems they show up under /mnt. etc. I need some way to determain it, so my program, that I write, knows where to put different types of files crossplatformly.
[22:30] <Jordan_U> johntittor2000: Try changing the boot order in your BIOS. Explicitly try booting from each drive, even if you don't think that drive could have grub installed on it.
[22:31] <johntittor2000> Jordan_U: But it boots my other OS’s
[22:32] <Jordan_U> johntittor2000: Unless it's prohibitively difficult it's usually an easy thing to try that will often get you back into Ubuntu where we can diagnose and properly fix the problem permanently.
[22:34] <johntittor2000> Jordan_U: I tried, but it only boots my other linux. I’ll try to probe ubuntu from my other linux’s grub
[22:34] <Jordan_U> johntittor2000: If it is prohibitively difficult then please boot a GNU/Linux system (like an Ubuntu liveUSB) and run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces.
[22:35] <wheath> hi all I installed lubuntu and it sees my wifi, I connect, it asks for password, I give it, then nothing happens
[22:35] <wheath> any ideas what I doing wrong?
[22:38] <ax562> can someone help me with this?
[22:38] <ax562> http://pastebin.com/yjD6ZCvu
[22:38] <ax562> usually if I had that problem, turning off fastboot would resolve the issue
[22:39] <ax562> but at the moment fast boot is off
[22:39] <ax562> any ideas?
[22:41] <OerHeks> ax562, if you claim that the 1st clue 'fastboot/hybernate' is not the issue, then the 2nd one: The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state.
[22:41] <OerHeks> go back in windows and filechk the drive
[22:42] <ax562> yeah I went into power options, change what power button does, and fastboot is off
[22:45] <johntittor2000> Jordan_U: I successfully probed ubuntu from the other OS, now I’m booting on Ubuntu.
[22:45] <ax562> bbrb
[22:46] <johntittor2000> Jordan_U: that should I do once inside Ubuntu?
[22:46] <johntittor2000> What?*
[22:51] <reisio> _28_ria: 'mount' is probably utterly cross platform
[22:51] <reisio> I would be surprised to see something other than /etc/ used, but I'm not sure it really matters
[22:51] <reisio> if you're making a package, you should make it for the specific package manager
[22:51] <reisio> and it won't be an issue
[22:53] <NomadJim> If you're working with multiple screens or terminals, do you need to start an ssh-agent for each one? None of my new terminals can get a connection to the authentication agent if I start a new terminal with screen or start a new terminal with ssh
[22:59] <meggercat> Hi, I'm trying to find/install Microsoft fonts so my LibreOffice will save my .docx files without any problems. Does anyone know how to do that?
[23:01] <YankDownUnder> meggercat: You can look into downloading WINE/Wine-tricks => in the "WINE Tricks package, heaps of core MS fonts are installed. Otherwise, there are "grey" ways of dealing with the situation.
[23:02] <Khal> i need register channel
[23:02] <meggercat> YankDownUnder, are there no font files available for download?
[23:02] <Pici> Khal: see /msg chanserv help register and #freenode.
[23:03] <Khal> Thanks Pici x)
[23:03] <YankDownUnder> meggercat: Check out this particular article...hmm...it might tell you a bit about what you're wanting to know, eh? : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Microsoft_fonts
[23:04] <YankDownUnder> meggercat: And also this: (Ubuntu specific) => https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[23:07] <thebluesquirel> ssh sshtron.zachlatta.com
[23:07] <thebluesquirel> online tron in your terminal!
[23:09] <johntittor2000_> hello
[23:09] <johntittor2000_> Jordan_U: are you there?
[23:10] <Jordan_U> johntittor2000_: Please pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc".
[23:11] <johntittor2000_> how do i paste it to not spam?
[23:12] <johntittor2000_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/y044nfDG
[23:14] <Jordan_U> johntittor2000_: Please pastebin the output of "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/" and the RESULTS.txt from https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript .
[23:17] <_28_ria> reisio: so, I am not aware, using mount, I can determain per/system standard systemwide data paths?
[23:17] <reisio> _28_ria: no but you can determine mounted FSes, which I believe you also mentioned
[23:17] <reisio> unless that's what you meant by data paths
[23:18] <reisio> _28_ria: what are you trying to accomplish more generally?
[23:19] <johntittor2000_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/eUYpbcaf
[23:19] <_28_ria> reisio: no, first of all not everybody partitions their drives and I need to determain not mounted partitions, but standard system dirs. Like global settings go to /etc, executable files go to /bin, profile folder /home, etc. (for example).
[23:19] <kylelazell> hi
[23:20] <kylelazell> how are you all
[23:20] <_28_ria> reisio: Different (u|li)n[iu]x|bsd systems have different systemwide datapaths defined, and I need to be able to dtermain them, crossplatform
[23:23] <c3phalex1n> anyone knows wonderfull chanells about discussion about security and hacking [exploit dev and vul research]
[23:23] <c3phalex1n> if you know something, please introduce that to me
[23:24] <johntittor2000> Jordan_U: can’t I just reinstall grub?
[23:32] <oliveira_> hi
[23:32] <oliveira_> first time using hexchat
[23:34] <johntittor2000> Jordan_U: maybe run boot-repair
[23:37] <reisio> oliveira_: hi
[23:37] <reisio> _28_ria: /etc and PATH are pretty universal
[23:38] <reisio> _28_ria: $HOME should be, too
[23:38] <reisio> _28_ria: why do you need to determine them?
[23:38] <theorem> hmm, gnome-screensaver doesn't seem to trigger a screensaver.  it does seem to find the correct idle message ---
[23:39] <theorem> what does gnome-screensaver drive to call a screen blanking and the login after the screensaver ?
[23:40] <reisio> you should only have gnome-screensaver _or_ something else running, not both
[23:40] <theorem> reisio: how do I know if something else is running ?
[23:41] <reisio> theorem: ps aux | egrep -i 'screen|lock'
[23:41] <love3> Ubuntu makes me cry
[23:41] <Jordan_U> johntittor2000: Did you ever run boot info script? Re-running grub-install will probably solve the problem, but without diagnosing why it broke in the first place it may just happen again.
[23:41] <theorem> reisio: nothing else
[23:45] <reisio> theorem: okay, what's the problem again?