clivejo | valorie: what video driver do you use? | 00:05 |
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valorie | the free one I think | 00:05 |
clivejo | can you try another snapshot | 00:06 |
clivejo | but this time do an upgrade before adding the ppa | 00:06 |
valorie | dist-upgrade, or full-upgrade? | 00:07 |
valorie | did full | 00:09 |
valorie | it's still workin' | 00:13 |
clivejo | so its fully updated and rebooted? | 00:14 |
valorie | 79%...... | 00:14 |
clivejo | oh | 00:14 |
valorie | it seems to have slowed way down, dunno why | 00:19 |
valorie | flashplugin isn't that big! | 00:20 |
mamarley | clivejo: Sure, in maybe 45min? Sorry, I was busy for a bit. | 00:30 |
clivejo | mamarley: no problem, Ill probably be in bed, but sure ping me with the results if you can | 00:32 |
mamarley | Sure! | 00:34 |
valorie | ok, updated and rebooted | 00:34 |
mamarley | Thanks for working so hard on this! We really appreciate it! | 00:35 |
valorie | and is "dist-upgrade" required, or is "full-upgrade" acceptable | 00:36 |
valorie | ? | 00:36 |
valorie | oh, it says full-upgrade; nothing to upgrade! | 00:37 |
valorie | oh pfff, wrong ppa | 00:37 |
clivejo | well I dont like the wallpaper! | 00:39 |
valorie | ah, I always change to my astronomy pics instead anyway | 00:39 |
valorie | one per hour | 00:39 |
valorie | ok, full-upgrade working away | 00:40 |
valorie | now for my elusive Arthur Crozier | 00:40 |
clivejo | https://s31.postimg.org/evfvy6jqj/Screenshot_20160718_014006.png | 00:41 |
clivejo | and I dont like the inactive windows | 00:41 |
valorie | inactive? | 00:42 |
clivejo | yeah, its like a weird shadow effect | 00:43 |
clivejo | might be a broken package | 00:43 |
clivejo | doesnt look right | 00:43 |
clivejo | anyways, time for bed | 00:46 |
valorie | looks successful this time, clivejo | 00:57 |
valorie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/19844371/ | 00:57 |
valorie | reboots flawlessly and everthing | 00:59 |
valorie | sleep well and thank you for all your work, clivejo | 01:04 |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Valorie do you see the shadows? | 01:06 |
valorie | no | 01:07 |
valorie | just installed kpat and everything works and looks perfect | 01:09 |
valorie | and I won kpat in 106 moves | 01:13 |
valorie | 5.7.1 seems awesomesauce | 01:13 |
valorie | somebody should update the /topic | 01:14 |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Not yet | 01:15 |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Still bit of work needed | 01:16 |
valorie | ok | 01:18 |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Its removing a few essential packages | 01:18 |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> They need rebuilt with Qt 5.6.1 | 01:18 |
valorie | ah, I see | 01:19 |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> And I need help and advice on what to do with those | 01:22 |
mamarley | clivejo: Looking good to me too. I have spotted a few bugs, but I am pretty sure those are code bugs and not packaging bugs. Good job! | 01:27 |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> What bugs? | 01:35 |
* valorie thinks clifford must be typing in his sleep | 01:38 | |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Its too hot and sticky here tonight | 01:39 |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Can't sleep | 01:40 |
valorie | I guess I'll go clear up my piles of weeds before the skeeters come out | 01:41 |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> The what? | 01:41 |
valorie | ok, weeds cleared | 02:42 |
mamarley | clivejo: Mosquitoes. Annoying little bloodsuckers with an itchy bite. We've got tons of them here in 'Murica. | 02:53 |
mamarley | The bugs are an empty position at the right of the system tray when it is configured to show all icons and no shadow/translucency on Plasma panels when the system first starts. | 02:54 |
mamarley | The latter can be worked around by restarting plasmashell. | 02:54 |
mamarley | Also, the window border theme changes to Plastik on upgrade. | 02:55 |
valorie | that's a weird bug | 03:26 |
valorie | is there some theme package missing or so? | 03:26 |
mamarley | Nope, once I switch it back to Breeze it works fine. | 03:31 |
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santa_ | morning | 08:18 |
jimarvan | good morning! :) | 08:31 |
acheronuk | ok. what did I miss? | 10:11 |
acheronuk | An old friend from uni visited, and that was the weekend. | 10:13 |
mamarley | Another little nit I found is that there is no icon for the KF5 version of KRDC, but that is applications and not plasma. | 10:38 |
soee | icon is rather in Framewoks | 10:39 |
soee | if it is part of Breeze | 10:39 |
IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Oh that might be my issue with window border | 10:47 |
clivejo | yes, thats what the issue was | 10:59 |
clivejo | switched window decorations back to plasma and they look nice again | 10:59 |
clivejo | acheronuk: https://s31.postimg.org/evfvy6jqj/Screenshot_20160718_014006.png | 11:00 |
clivejo | is Qt 5.6.1 ready for Xenial? | 11:06 |
clivejo | is 16.04.01 out yet? | 11:32 |
blaze | clivejo: do you mean ubuntu lts? | 11:37 |
clivejo | yes | 11:37 |
blaze | clivejo: you can check if isos are available | 11:37 |
clivejo | I have a Windows 10 laptop I want to make useable again | 11:37 |
clivejo | blaze: are you a KDE Dev? | 11:38 |
blaze | no, just some indie dev | 11:39 |
clivejo | I would check if I could remember where they put them! | 11:39 |
clivejo | my goldfish brain can one deal with one thing at a time | 11:39 |
blaze | clivejo: look here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/ | 11:39 |
blaze | no updates so far | 11:39 |
yofel | 16.04.1 is thursday | 11:40 |
clivejo | ah | 11:41 |
yofel | you could try the daily build from friday http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/xenial/daily-live/ | 11:41 |
clivejo | yofel: how do I rebuild these packages with Qt5.6.1? | 11:42 |
yofel | which ones? | 11:42 |
clivejo | just upload a PPA version to staging-plasma? | 11:42 |
clivejo | apport-kde apturl-kde fcitx-frontend-qt5 kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 kubuntu-driver-manager kubuntu-notification-helper libnss3-nssdb libtaskmanager5 plasma-discover python3-pyqt5 | 11:43 |
clivejo | software-properties-kde | 11:43 |
clivejo | all packages the system wants to remove to install 5.7.1 | 11:44 |
yofel | most of that sounds python3-pyqt5 related, so start with that | 11:44 |
yofel | but yeah, it's just running dch -R, adding a ppa suffix and uploading to the PPA | 11:45 |
yofel | and hoping that it builds | 11:45 |
clivejo | did you say Qt 5.6.1 was copied over for Xenial as well? | 11:45 |
clivejo | do you still have frameworks 5.24 locally? | 11:45 |
yofel | yes, no | 11:46 |
yofel | well, xenial *CI* | 11:46 |
clivejo | are they working? | 11:46 |
clivejo | acheronuk: ^ | 11:46 |
yofel | CI seems to have less failures than before, so I would say ~yes. Not sure if they're good for public consumption though | 11:47 |
clivejo | I was going to backport FW5.24 | 11:47 |
clivejo | maybe this evening | 11:47 |
yofel | feel free to. I think a rebuild against our official qt 5.6.1 packages will be enough once those are in yakkety. What we have now is good enough for staging | 11:48 |
clivejo | any idea when the "official" ones wil be released? | 11:49 |
yofel | "before yakkety FF" was the last I read. | 11:52 |
clivejo | they will hardly be backported? | 11:53 |
yofel | which is exactly one month from now | 11:53 |
yofel | that I don't know. But IIRC nobody had plans for that | 11:53 |
clivejo | be a good way of getting eyes on 5.7.* | 11:54 |
clivejo | not many people on yakkety yet :( | 11:54 |
clivejo | do you think it is worth trying to backport FW5.24/Plasma5.7.1 to Xenial? | 11:55 |
clivejo | or just opening a can of worms | 11:55 |
yofel | yes, after all we said we would backport 5.8 as well | 11:56 |
clivejo | we did? | 11:56 |
yofel | well, I did at least | 11:56 |
clivejo | who, when, where? | 11:56 |
yofel | so feel free to start the FW backporing (remember to copy qt first) | 11:56 |
santa_ | clivejo: before you start backporting I plan to send 3/4 merge requests for frameworks very soon | 11:56 |
yofel | I'll look at the transition tracker for 5.6.1 once frameworks and plasma are in backports-landing. For yakkety, you're on your own | 11:57 |
clivejo | santa_: oh? | 11:57 |
yofel | frameworks or automation? | 11:57 |
santa_ | well, both | 11:57 |
santa_ | I already have the stuff for automation | 11:57 |
yofel | ah packaging. (I read upstream) | 11:57 |
yofel | monday | 11:58 |
clivejo | santa_: is there any way to select a cascade build dependancy bump? | 11:58 |
clivejo | so for plasma, bump both FW and Plasma build deps? | 11:59 |
clivejo | and maybe even Qt deps? | 11:59 |
santa_ | clivejo: I have a patch for that | 12:00 |
santa_ | I can make something for qt also | 12:00 |
clivejo | can it be made that we select it via parameter passed to script? | 12:01 |
santa_ | yes | 12:01 |
santa_ | clivejo: here https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/+git/kubuntu-automation/+ref/work | 12:01 |
santa_ | what do you want to do would be | 12:02 |
santa_ | inside your plasma directory: | 12:02 |
santa_ | dev-package-names-list -d yakkety -r plasma -m frameworks | 12:02 |
santa_ | you can also do more than one "merge" | 12:04 |
clivejo | could we specify the version | 12:04 |
santa_ | why? | 12:04 |
clivejo | just have the package names in the dev lists | 12:04 |
santa_ | the reason why the versions are in the json is because different packages mya have different versions, soo better to find out them dinamically | 12:05 |
santa_ | s/mya/may/ | 12:06 |
clivejo | I guess in my mind just makes the script more flexable to do non-workflow jobs too | 12:06 |
santa_ | for exaple packages with epoch vs packages without epoch | 12:07 |
santa_ | or some had a completely different version, for instance extra-cmake-modules (at least in the past) | 12:07 |
clivejo | with the lack of people power, we seem to deviate from workflow a bit | 12:08 |
santa_ | I will have some time these days to help | 12:09 |
yofel | kdelibs still diverges (which is actually not respected in versions.json) | 12:09 |
santa_ | yeah | 12:09 |
yofel | ah right, it's in packaging-exceptions | 12:10 |
santa_ | so I would say lets go with that patches if there isn't any other further objections | 12:10 |
santa_ | yeah something to get rid of are the dupe info about "exceptions" | 12:11 |
clivejo | would you mind calling it something othe than merge? | 12:11 |
santa_ | of course not | 12:11 |
clivejo | maybe bump | 12:11 |
santa_ | what about "-c"/"--cascade" ? | 12:12 |
clivejo | sometimes we might not want a cascade bump | 12:13 |
clivejo | for example a version of plasma will have a minium FW it needs | 12:14 |
santa_ | sure, so you skip the option and that's it | 12:14 |
clivejo | and Plasma 5.7.1 needs Qt5.6.1 | 12:14 |
clivejo | Id like a way to reflect that while staging | 12:15 |
santa_ | I will extend the tooling a bit for qt | 12:16 |
santa_ | so how do you want to name the option? | 12:17 |
santa_ | cascade? something else? | 12:17 |
santa_ | "-e"/"--extra"? | 12:17 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:19 |
yofel | OpenSSL::SSL::SSLError | 13:28 |
yofel | oh come on | 13:28 |
yofel | hi BluesKaj | 13:28 |
BluesKaj | hi yofel | 13:28 |
clivejo | my notes icons in Kontact have disappeared :( | 13:54 |
santa_ | clivejo: yo, merge requests for fw done | 14:17 |
santa_ | they were 3 libraries failing to build because of missing leaked "private" symbols | 14:18 |
yofel | santa_: private from qt 5.6? | 14:24 |
yofel | santa_: and against what exactly where you building? | 14:26 |
santa_ | yofel: symbols not actually in the fw libraries, but if that's the question I have built against whatever is in yakkety | 14:26 |
santa_ | http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/logs/bluez-qt_5.24.0-0ubuntu1+santa3_amd64.build | 14:27 |
santa_ | ↑ example | 14:27 |
yofel | yeah, that sounds like Qt | 14:27 |
yofel | still, with 5.6 you *have* that symbol, so instead of removing it the symbols need to be marked as (optional=qtinternal) or something like that | 14:28 |
yofel | (vanilla yakkety has 5.5) | 14:29 |
santa_ | I see | 14:29 |
santa_ | yofel: where's qt 5.6? | 14:29 |
yofel | I wonder if we have an official tag for internal qt symbols.. | 14:29 |
santa_ | what ppa | 14:29 |
yofel | kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks and kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma | 14:30 |
santa_ | ?! | 14:30 |
santa_ | no separate ppa for qt5.6? | 14:30 |
yofel | last I checked (a while ago), there were no official 5.6.1 builds, just some 5.6.0 testbuilds | 14:31 |
yofel | Mirv_ was on vacation for quite a while | 14:31 |
clivejo | we are using Riks builds - https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/qt5test | 14:31 |
clivejo | basically to get working on Plasma5.7.1 | 14:32 |
clivejo | he based in on Debian | 14:32 |
santa_ | are that builds going to get into yakkety? | 14:33 |
clivejo | not those ones | 14:33 |
clivejo | but rebuilds based on this packaging | 14:33 |
clivejo | when the official Qt lands in yakkety | 14:34 |
clivejo | for Xenial probably will publish these builds, when we get that far | 14:34 |
yofel | hm no, nothing new in landing-024 | 14:34 |
clivejo | current status of Plasma 5.7.1 - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.7.1_yakkety.html | 14:35 |
clivejo | Im actually running it on my system at the moment | 14:36 |
clivejo | Qt 5.6.1 (Rik's build), FW 5.24 and Plasma 5.7.1 | 14:36 |
yofel | santa_: another thing with the symbols. Please check if the symbols are actually qt internal or if they are from some #ifdef qt >= 5.6 code. I haven't looked at all of them yet | 14:37 |
clivejo | yofel: should I have marked them some way? | 14:37 |
yofel | clivejo: no, at least you wouldn't have known that it might've been necessary. For our purpose the symbol files are good as they are | 14:38 |
clivejo | or should batchpatch do that? | 14:38 |
santa_ | are you going to upload something before qt 5.6 gets into yakkety? | 14:39 |
yofel | nah, batchpatch did what it could | 14:39 |
yofel | santa_: I don't intend to | 14:39 |
clivejo | santa_: I dont have upload rights so not I | 14:39 |
clivejo | but I do want to get it into landing PPA's and get users eyes on it | 14:40 |
santa_ | ok, lets put that merge requests on hold | 14:41 |
santa_ | what about my automation stuff? can we merge the work branch so I would start working on the qt build dependency bump? | 14:42 |
clivejo | I intend to move Qt5.6.1 to staging-frameworks and start a backport for FW5.24 later on | 14:42 |
clivejo | the Qt bump will probably have to wait to the next version I think | 14:43 |
yofel | santa_: looking | 14:43 |
clivejo | FW5.25 and Plasma5.7.2 | 14:43 |
yofel | santa_: warnings.simplefilter('ignore', FutureWarning) #Ignore the warnings from python-debian | 14:47 |
yofel | ?!? | 14:47 |
santa_ | yofel: comment out the line and see | 14:48 |
santa_ | yofel: yes it could filter out a bit more than what it should but not a big deal imho | 14:49 |
yofel | santa_: http://sprunge.us/jQBG | 14:51 |
santa_ | yofel: that script is part of the ng tooling, it's meant to be called inside a pkgname/git/ directory | 14:52 |
yofel | I ran it inside of a clone of plasma-workspace | 14:53 |
yofel | hence the full path | 14:53 |
yofel | pwd would've been /tmp/pkg/plasma-workspace | 14:53 |
santa_ | should be /tmp/pkg/plasma-workspace/git/ | 14:54 |
blaze | hmm, isn't qt5.7 planned for 16.10? | 14:54 |
yofel | santa_: I did not clone using the tooling | 14:55 |
yofel | it *can* read debian/changelog, otherwise it would've failed earlier | 14:55 |
yofel | it doesn't find plasma-workspace in any of the ftp maps and thus never sets a version | 14:56 |
santa_ | nope | 14:56 |
santa_ | it doesn't find out well the package name | 14:56 |
santa_ | right now it tries to find out looking for the directory name | 14:56 |
santa_ | but that will be improved in the future | 14:57 |
yofel | oh, I see -.- | 14:57 |
yofel | yeah, upstream_name gets set to pkg | 14:57 |
santa_ | once we make sure we are dep 12 compatible | 14:58 |
santa_ | http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep12/ | 14:58 |
santa_ | we can find out the upstream name from there | 14:58 |
santa_ | but I prefer to work on that later | 14:58 |
yofel | santa_: merged | 14:59 |
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santa_ | yofel: awesome, thanks! | 14:59 |
Mirv | yofel: Qt 5.6.1 now started, new issues on s390x/armhf though in addition to existing old ones. there is now one upstream s390x test case submitted though at least so hopefully we will get somewhere. | 15:13 |
yofel | Mirv: great! thanks for the update | 15:14 |
Mirv | build failures need to be fixed for yakkety at minimum, others may be potentially postponed since yakkety is not at the moment a base of stable phone updates for example | 15:15 |
santa_ | yofel: btw, it seems kdelibs is the one and only package whose git repository doesn't match the upstream name | 15:19 |
santa_ | ... which is bad because it forces to add "exceptions" in the automation which is a very bad thing | 15:20 |
yofel | yeah, it is | 15:21 |
yofel | I don't really want to fix it either though, as the original idea was to just "remove it when it dies" | 15:21 |
yofel | but that thing feels somewhat immortal | 15:21 |
santa_ | is it possible to symlink kdelibs.git to kde4libs.git? | 15:22 |
yofel | no | 15:22 |
santa_ | in alioth it would have been possible, not sure about lp | 15:22 |
santa_ | ouch | 15:22 |
yofel | TBH, I wouldn't implement it in the new tooling | 15:22 |
yofel | just do it by hand | 15:22 |
santa_ | the exceptions thing? no way | 15:22 |
jimarvan | see ya later guys | 16:12 |
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* clivejo wonders if acheronuk is ok | 18:58 | |
clivejo | yofel: Im going to make a start on backporting FW | 18:59 |
clivejo | Copied Qt 5.6.1 to staging-frameworks | 18:59 |
clivejo | if they ever publish | 19:00 |
valorie | weeee, so cool to see progress | 19:48 |
valorie | do we have to do anything special for the xenial LTS upgrade coming soon? | 19:48 |
clivejo | I need air conditioning | 19:50 |
mamarley | clivejo++ | 19:51 |
mamarley | Air conditioning is the most wonderful invention. | 19:51 |
clivejo | tooo hot today | 19:51 |
clivejo | thats not something you here very often in Ireland | 19:51 |
clivejo | hear | 19:51 |
mamarley | It is about 32.5degC where I live today, and this weekend it is forecast to be 37degC! | 19:52 |
clivejo | wow | 19:52 |
clivejo | where are you? | 19:52 |
valorie | it never was a thing until recently here | 19:53 |
mamarley | Cary, North Carolina, USA | 19:53 |
valorie | not much use this year though! | 19:53 |
valorie | 20 and raining now | 19:53 |
valorie | this summer is like my childhood summers, and what everyone thinks of Seattle already | 19:54 |
valorie | :-) | 19:54 |
clivejo | it reached a high of 25C here today | 19:54 |
mamarley | Around here nearly every house and every car has air conditioning. Even the crappiest "housing project" apartments in the crappiest sections of towns have air conditioning. | 19:55 |
valorie | I'm fine with the rain and not having to water the plants | 19:55 |
clivejo | our highest this year | 19:55 |
mamarley | clivejo: That temperature is just two degrees above the set temperature on my air conditioner! | 19:57 |
mamarley | Well, 2degF anyway. | 19:57 |
mamarley | As much as I like Celsius, I don't really have as good of a feel for it as I do for Fahrenheit. | 19:58 |
* mamarley wonders why the US can't switch to Metric already. | 19:59 | |
valorie | we're dumb | 19:59 |
clivejo | confuse too many people | 19:59 |
mamarley | valorie: Yep, I have to agree with you on that one… | 20:00 |
valorie | dumb, fat and should-be-happy-but-instead-grumpy | 20:00 |
* clivejo sings | 20:00 | |
* mamarley is smart (or so he is told, anyway, but he isn't sure he believes it), skinny, and is actually rather happy right now, for reasons beyond logic… | 20:01 | |
valorie | I'm happy too, in spite of finding out on the Internet that my aunt passed a few years ago | 20:02 |
clivejo | well thats one way to mow a meadow! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np-57ijJs3A | 20:07 |
valorie | that is the wrong sort of mower! | 20:10 |
valorie | my grandpa had one that looked like giant hair clippers | 20:11 |
valorie | he cut his own oat hay for the cows' winter fodder | 20:11 |
clivejo | leavin on a jet plane, dunno went Ill be back again | 20:22 |
* clivejo pokes LP | 20:58 |
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