[01:52] <qengho> Good morning!
[04:55] <hikiko> hi
[05:06] <qengho> Hi hi
[07:04] <Laney> morning!
[07:05] <seb128> Laney!
[07:05] <pitti> hey!
[07:07] <Sweet5hark> moin
[07:30] <pitti> tedg, Laney: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-y-replace-upstart
[08:00] <willcooke> morning sprinters
[08:00] <hikiko> andyrock, Trevinho https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/nux/nux.fixed-smart-ptr/+merge/300293 could you review this branch? (it fixes nux compile errors)
[08:01] <willcooke> xnox, morning.  Is this (potentially) a quick fix do you know?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1603223
[08:01] <hikiko> morning willcooke, Laney seb128 pitti Sweet5hark qengho :p
[08:02] <willcooke> hi hikiko!
[08:02] <qengho> Howdy!
[08:02] <hikiko> :)
[08:07] <seb128> hey hikiko willcooke
[08:08] <willcooke> hey seb128, how goes the sprint so far?  Need anything arranging?
[08:08] <seb128> it's going well
[08:08] <seb128> no, everything is fine
[08:08] <seb128> thanks for asking!
[08:11] <Laney> err
[08:12] <Laney> we're missing caviar
[08:12] <willcooke> Laney, I can ship some fish paste over night.  Best I can do
[08:13] <davmor2> willcooke: oh come on you can do better than that, nip round you local chippy can grab a bundle of roe and ship that, at least that way it is fish eggs
[08:13] <willcooke> :)
[08:19] <Laney> \o/
[08:19] <Laney> we coincided with the heatwave
[08:20] <willcooke> It's pretty good here so far, up to ~ 25 in the sun already
[08:28] <willcooke> hikiko, Trevinho - anything pending re: lowgfx for .1?  If we hurry we might still get it in the image
[08:29] <davmor2> willcooke: pfff
[08:30] <davmor2> willcooke: no it won't I start testing in anger today
[08:31] <willcooke> Are you open to bribes?
[08:33] <hikiko> willcooke, we reverted the multimonitor change and I think Trevinho does the sru again :/
[08:35] <robert_ancell> willcooke, seb128 - hi from a similar timezone!
[08:35] <seb128> hey robert_ancell!
[08:35] <willcooke> hey robert_ancell!  "Good" flight?
[08:36] <willcooke> blimey:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822272
[08:36] <robert_ancell> willcooke, I didn't realise I was meant to pick up my luggage in Vancouver but it got here today :)
[08:36] <willcooke> robert_ancell, erk!  I hate having to do that.
[08:36] <robert_ancell> willcooke, yeah, I was suprised
[08:36] <willcooke> glad it found you
[08:36] <willcooke> I think this ARM sale is pretty bad news for the UK
[08:37] <robert_ancell> willcooke, do you know who owned it before?
[08:37] <robert_ancell> Is it the founders selling out?
[08:38] <robert_ancell> willcooke, seb128, do you know what the state of the gsettings/snap work is? Is it tracked anywhere?
[08:39] <willcooke> I think it was Apple, ex-Acorn bods, VLSI and a few others.  I imagine they still all hold shares.
[08:40] <robert_ancell> Guess they all wanted their own private islands
[08:40] <seb128> robert_ancell, I think it's "on desr_t's backlog, not started, and she's on holidays for the next weeks"
[08:40] <willcooke> robert_ancell, desrt and I still need to kick it off properly and break down the tasks.  So it's not re-started yet.  There are some app armor patches which the security team need to review from attente first
[08:41] <robert_ancell> seb128, that's what I assumed, but I haven't been able to get in touch with desrt.
[08:41] <seb128> robert_ancell, but gsettings is working today if you use the gsettings and home interfaces
[08:41] <willcooke> If j_dstrand is around at the sprint he might be able to advise re: the patches
[08:41] <robert_ancell> ok, cool
[08:41] <robert_ancell> thanks
[08:41] <seb128> robert_ancell, you need some hack in the wrapper, I think didrocks put those in the common desktop one
[08:42] <robert_ancell> yeah, was talking to him about that
[08:42] <seb128> to symlink $snap_user/.config/dconf to the normal userdir one
[08:43] <seb128> robert_ancell, is gsettings blocking anything or are you just being curious?
[08:44] <robert_ancell> seb128, not blocking, just don't know the state if anyone asks
[08:44] <robert_ancell> I'll just say TBD
[08:45] <willcooke> robert_ancell, if poss. would be nice to get an agreeement from #security to review and accept a_ttente's patches
[08:45] <robert_ancell> willcooke, link?
[08:45] <robert_ancell> I will chase that up
[08:45] <willcooke> robert_ancell, sorry, will need to defer to attente ^
[08:46] <Trevinho> Morning
[08:46] <robert_ancell> oh yes, he'll be online too soon.
[08:46]  * robert_ancell feels spoily having so many people online at the same time
[08:46] <robert_ancell> spoilt
[08:46] <willcooke> :))
[08:46] <willcooke> We all usually go out for ice-cream around 12
[08:47] <Trevinho> willcooke: hey
[08:48] <Trevinho> willcooke: so lowgfx stuff is all verified and in prepared. It only needs to be promoted to updates in order to get it in the image.
[08:49] <willcooke> Trevinho, cool.  And all the regressions are reverted (at least those we know of) right?
[08:49] <Trevinho> willcooke: Yes
[08:49] <desrt> robert_ancell: hey.. sorry.  on vacation.
[08:49] <willcooke> Trevinho, can you poke people to get the promotion done please? Beg and plead if necessary.
[08:50] <robert_ancell> desrt, np
[08:50] <seb128> hey Trevinho, how are you?
[08:57] <Trevinho> hey seb128 allright, is your sprint already on?
[09:00] <andyrock> morning
[09:01] <seb128> Trevinho, yes, full speed
[09:01] <seb128> hey andyrock
[09:01] <seb128> are you guys still having your own mini sprint?
[09:02] <Trevinho> seb128: sort of.. :)
[09:04] <seb128> made more pasta?
[09:04] <seb128> or pizza?
[09:04] <Trevinho> seb128: more pasta...
[09:04] <seb128> :-)
[09:04] <Trevinho> seb128: no pizza this time... I need more people to fire up my huge brick oven..
[09:05] <seb128> you have one of those?!
[09:05] <seb128> O_o
[09:06] <Trevinho> seb128: sure... It's normal here (i'm in my hometown). Anyone had to cook the bread daily in the past...
[09:07] <robert_ancell> seb128, have you noticed any login delays since the hipdpi change wen't through? I've occasionally had ~20s delays while the u-g waits for the xsettings plugin
[09:07] <seb128> robert_ancell, no, but I'm on xenial and you didn't SRU the u-g change?
[09:07] <robert_ancell> seb128, it hasn't gone though, but I'm not pushing it atm
[09:07] <seb128> robert_ancell, also the yakkety update is blocked in proposed
[09:08] <seb128> so I guess nobody but you got it
[09:08] <Trevinho> seb128: this weekend it was mostly about supporting two my friends in a rally... And the Ubuntu Rally car it was... http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7489/28366881705_71fd9bf2a6_k.jpg :-)
[09:08] <robert_ancell> oh, is it?
[09:08] <seb128> Trevinho, nice!
[09:08] <seb128> unity-greeter/s390x unsatisfiable Depends: upstart
[09:09] <seb128> robert_ancell, let me try to fix that by deleting the binary, you might need to add a build-depends on upstart as a workaorund
[09:09] <seb128> upstart is missing on s390x
[09:09] <robert_ancell> ah
[09:09] <seb128> which is creating issues
[09:09] <robert_ancell> seb128, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/16.10.1-0ubuntu2 is showing everything built...
[09:10] <seb128> robert_ancell, right, the issue is that it depends on upstart and the upstart binary got deleted on s390x
[09:10] <robert_ancell> oh
[09:10] <seb128> so it makes the greeter not installable on that arch
[09:11] <seb128> I deleted the binary from yakkety the other day
[09:11] <seb128> but I think we need to delete the new one as well
[09:11] <seb128> just did that
[09:11] <robert_ancell> so, what are you supposed to do on s390x if you depend on upstart?
[09:11] <seb128> let's see what it does on the next publisher run
[09:11] <seb128> build-depends on it
[09:11] <seb128> so you depwait
[09:11] <seb128> and you just go missing on s390x
[09:11] <seb128> but it's fine
[09:41] <xnox> willcooke, potentially a quick one, yes. Let me see if I can fix that up.
[09:41] <willcooke> thanks xnox
[09:42] <willcooke> also yay - 50Mbit wifi connection from the shady end of the garden
[09:42] <seb128> trying to make us believe there is sun over the u.k?
[09:44] <Odd_Bloke> Nah, there are drug-dealing squirrels down there.
[09:57] <xnox> willcooke, so https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/de/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=Download+updates+while
[09:57] <xnox> is the one that is broken.
[09:57] <xnox> i can fix it in the source, and upload. But the translation on launchpad needs to be fixed as well.
[09:57] <xnox> i'll try to contact Ubuntu german translators about it.
[09:58] <willcooke> xnox, awesome, thanks.
[10:01] <seb128> xnox, pitti can probably help you
[10:02] <xnox> oooh, pitti are you "official" german translator? Ich bin nicht....
[10:02] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1603926
[10:03] <xnox> actually there are a bunch of bugs like that.
[10:07] <pitti> seb128: pkg-config --variable=systemduserunitdir systemd
[10:08] <xnox> oh i am not logged in
[10:08] <xnox> i see suggestions now.
[10:09] <qengho> xnox: is it just the curly brace to paren problem
[10:09] <qengho> ?
[10:09] <xnox> qengho, yes.
[10:09] <xnox> curly is the correct form.
[10:10] <xnox> I have these to fix as well https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/af/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=%24%28
[10:10] <pitti> xnox: updated in LP
[10:11] <xnox> yeah \o/
[10:12] <xnox> qengho, can you approve afrikaanas as well? https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/af/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=%24%28
[10:24] <hikiko> hi
[10:24] <hikiko> question: can lightdm accept parameters for Xorg?
[10:25] <hikiko> I'd like to do this thing:
[10:28] <hikiko> I have 2 GPUs and 4 monitors, I'd like to create 2 configurations files for xserver: one for GPU1 and one for GPU2, then start xserver1 with gpu1 configuration and xfce and configure lightdm to start xserver2 with the gpu2 configuration file
[10:28] <seb128> hikiko, that's a question for robert_ancell, you can probably try to catch him after lunch
[10:28] <hikiko> so that I have an xfce4 instance running with startx on gpu1 (intel) and start unity using lightdm on gpu2 (nvidia)
[10:28] <hikiko> thanks seb128 :) I will ask him!
[10:28] <seb128> yw!
[10:36] <davmor2> willcooke: do you happen to know if the new amdgpu-pro stuff landed for 16.04.1 if so I'd like to run some upgrades and installs around that
[10:37] <willcooke> davmor2, I dont know, sorry.  Maybe tjaalton does?
[10:38] <tjaalton> davmor2: I'm not sure, tseliot?
[10:38] <tjaalton> I think the pro-pkg is still brewing
[10:38] <tseliot> davmor2: no, amdgpu pro is not in the archive
[10:39] <davmor2> tseliot: do you know if it is being targeted for .1?
[10:39] <tseliot> davmor2: no, not for .1
[10:40] <davmor2> tseliot: awesome thanks for the update
[10:40] <tseliot> np
[12:17] <attente> robert_ancell: hey, those patches are on the ML here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/apparmor/2016-January/009171.html, but they've been sitting around since January
[12:28] <Sweet5hark> hmmm, you have been watching: a hard system freeze out of nowhere.
[12:28]  * Sweet5hark gets slightly nervous about that.
[12:42] <tedg> pitti: The indicators: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/+git/systemd-graphical-session
[12:55] <Sweet5hark> willcooke: around?
[13:31] <Sweet5hark> oh, wow. ARM is not a UK company anymore.
[13:32] <Sweet5hark> apparently it is japanese now.
[13:34] <davmor2> Sweet5hark: no not yet it's only just going to the dear shareholders I recommend that we ...... bit, but eventually it will be
[13:35] <davmor2> Sweet5hark: unless the Americans don't want it to be Japanese in which case one of the big tech giant might put in a bigger counter offer and so on
[13:36] <Sweet5hark> davmor2: lol, May is like: "Move along, nothing to see here" as someone is using the cheap GBP to extract massive IP out of the UK: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-arm-holdings-m-a-may-idUSKCN0ZY16R
[13:42] <Laney> pitti: http://paste.debian.net/782711/ ~/.config/systemd/user/session-migration.service
[13:55] <seb128> Laney, pitti, I think it's https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78905
[13:56] <seb128> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/commit/?id=a68f5dfd7662767b7b9822090b70bc5bd145c50c
[14:04] <Laney> seb128: maybe fix that in src/polkit/polkitunixsession-systemd.c too
[14:04] <Laney> that is where the warning comes from
[14:05] <seb128> Laney, looking, thanks for the pointer
[14:06] <Laney> -> pointer for you
[14:06] <seb128> :-)
[14:08] <pitti> tedg: pkg-config --variable=systemduserunitdir systemd
[14:13] <pitti> tedg: /run/systemd/users/$(uid)
[14:15] <pitti> tedg: /run/user/$(uid)/systemd/
[14:17] <Sweet5hark> seb128: careful, Laney might trick you into derefing a NULL
[14:17] <seb128> Sweet5hark, trying to hack my laptop!
[14:28] <Laney> ex falso quodlibet
[14:34] <pitti> Laney: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/session.sh
[14:53] <Trevinho> Laney: I've found the issue with the black desktop eh... It's in gtk. If you'd run that with stock gtk it would be always black. If you use the version patched with unity support, it works in some cases, but not always because of another issue... So I've a patch for natuilus for now, then i'll fix gtk too.
[14:53] <Trevinho> Laney: how do you want me to provide the patches? branch, debdiff or what?
[14:54] <Laney> Trevinho: are the patches upstreamable?
[14:55] <Trevinho> Laney: nautilus one... not sure since upstream nautilus has no desktop, isn't it?
[14:55] <Trevinho> Laney: as for gtk, there's something that can be upstreamed too... Althogh our implementation might differ
[14:55] <Laney> it does the icons, but the gnomebg stuff is patched
[14:55] <Trevinho> so... I could work in both solutions
[14:55] <Trevinho> Laney: I mean, I don't thin it has nautilus-desktop-window.c file at all, has it?
[14:56] <Laney> umm
[14:56] <Trevinho> think*
[14:56] <Laney> i don't remember the exact files
[14:56] <Laney> look in debian/patches
[15:13] <Trevinho> Laney: there's indeed an error in ubuntu-revert-no-desktop patch
[15:40] <Laney> :-o!
[15:45] <Trevinho> Laney: I've like the impression that the root problem with nautilus is that it's not really using the desktoip-background either, but just uses the root window to paint it... And only paints the icons on top.. as g-s does
[15:50] <Trevinho> Ah, no... it works
[16:12] <Trevinho> Laney: apply this for the black bg fix
[16:12] <Trevinho> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19914256/
[16:12] <Trevinho> only for nautilus, gtk one is something I check better
[16:36] <seb128> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67728
[16:39] <seb128> Cannot register authentication agent: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: Passed session and the session the caller is in differs. They must be equal for now.
[16:39] <pitti> polkit_subject_equal()
[16:53] <seb128> Cannot register authentication agent: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: Error getting subject: Error parsing unix-session subject: Didn't find value for key `session-id' of type s
[17:11] <seb128> calling it a day!
[17:11] <seb128> have a good evening desktoper
[17:11] <seb128> see you tomorrow
[17:45] <willcooke_> gnight all
[17:55] <Trevinho> Laney: it seems the gtk one is way more annoying... Since it seems that gtk doesn't listen properly _NET_SUPPORTED changes, then when unity loads it doesn't get informed about handling transparency properly.... Thus black corners on windows _-
[21:25] <ochosi> Laney: hey, just so you know I've ported Greybird to Gtk3.20 and SASS in some evening hours, wasn't all-too-hard in the end, just very boring ;) so anyway, xubuntu will be fine in 16.10 if you go all 3.20 on everyone
[23:03] <qengho> Good morning. SYN