[09:42] <xnox> dmj_s76, i have not tested that in a VM yet with just a single nvme drive or multiple nvme drives. I would not want to rush it into yakkety & xenial this week. We can put it into yakkety, test image, sru into xenial and then at some point you will have xenial daily image to test & use
[09:42] <xnox> we never stop producing xenial daily image, as it will eventually become 16.04.2
[14:04] <dmj_s76> xnox: ok
[14:05] <dmj_s76> was hoping to not force our nvme users to always manual partition
[14:07] <dmj_s76> doesn't affect our installs, just is a fairly annoying thing for people to try to reinstall and then find out halfway through that the bootloader failed.
[14:10] <dmj_s76> Relatedly, the daily iso has -proposed enabled, which in our experience can have some unfortunate side effects for average users (package manager breaking, updates which will likely never graduate, etc.)
[14:11] <dmj_s76> Do understand the reluctance to push it without testing and so late.
[14:15] <dmj_s76> xnox: My reports of mysterious "failing on boot, post successful install" on multiple nvme drives should be discounted...our machines that have multiple nvme ports don't boot in bios mode with nvme drives at all (firmware limitation).
[14:16] <dmj_s76> So, it's fairly likely (though not tested for certainty) that multiple nvme works.
[14:50] <xnox> dmj_s76, i'm pretty sure that most nvme users are not actually affected
[14:50] <xnox> as most of nvme machines boot in uefi mode by default, and that works as far as i can test / tell.
[14:50] <dmj_s76> xnox: That's true...with some exceptions.
[14:50] <xnox> granted i did manual partitioning installation, using d-i on my laptop, as I wanted to keep windows and have full disk encryption.
[14:51] <xnox> dmj_s76, it's hard to judge % of people affected. Still pretty bad even if one user/machine is affected. =)
[14:51] <dmj_s76> All our laptops are uefi
[14:51] <xnox> cause we are supposed to strike for the best
[14:51] <xnox> dmj_s76, but you are booting in bios mode...
[14:51] <xnox> which is affected
[14:51] <dmj_s76> RAID card issues have kept some of our desktops bios
[14:54] <dmj_s76> We probably hit a larger cross-section of potential configurations than most
[14:55] <xnox> =)
[14:56] <dmj_s76> Plus, we want every Ubuntu user to have a great first time experience.  Even if it's only 20% of those with nvme drives who boot in bios mode, not giving them a reason to think Ubuntu is hard to install is important