[00:02] <johntittor2000> Jordan_U: I run boot-repair, now it’s all good. It started failing because I was updating, but it wouldn’t finish updating, and then I simply restarted the pc and all hell broke loose
[00:03] <johntittor2000> Jordan_U: if i don’t do that stupidity again, I think I’ll be fine.
[00:04] <johntittor2000> Thanks for your help
[00:04] <johntittor2000> Jordan_U: thanks
[00:12] <_unreal_> working on getting this computer setup with this https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/CuBox
[00:12] <_unreal_> just started cloning
[00:14] <reisio> _unreal_: what arch is that?
[00:15] <OerHeks> arm i guess
[00:15] <thingfish> Trying to install 16.04, but the install routine stops right before the part where you select your drive to install Ubuntu on.  System doesn't hang, just stays there and doesn't proceed.
[00:15] <_unreal_> yep
[00:15] <reisio> ah so it is
[00:15] <reisio> marvell
[00:15] <reisio> that got cec builtin?
[00:16] <_unreal_> ya it was the BETA cubox built by solidrun
[00:16] <_unreal_> a friend gave it to me
[00:16] <reisio> woo free 'puter
[00:16] <_unreal_> beta free puter
[00:16] <_unreal_> 800mhz 1gig and microsd, esata
[00:17] <reisio> beta shmeta
[00:17] <thingfish> I have tried installing with both UEFI, and Legacy options in BIOS.
[00:17] <thingfish> same thing, the install routine stops right before partitioning.
[00:17] <OerHeks> thingfish, try disable fastboot in windows, not secureboot
[00:18] <_unreal_> thingfish, I'm just comming in, but there are some harddrive settings in the bios that could cause that
[00:18] <_unreal_> they have to do with sata drive settings
[00:18] <_unreal_> just a direction to prob
[00:19] <thingfish> these damn new unfriendly-to-linux computers...
[00:19] <thingfish> I'll swear.
[00:19] <thingfish> yeah okay OerHeks and _unreal_
[00:19] <OerHeks> !uefi
[00:20] <pikashoe> !grub
[00:20] <pikashoe> :)
[00:20] <pikashoe> pikapikapika...
[00:20] <pikashoe> ]:)
[00:21] <_unreal_> reisio, ever seen a cubox?
[00:21] <_unreal_> they are tiny
[00:21] <reisio> 2x2x2 cube? I can imagine
[00:21] <_unreal_> yep :)
[00:21] <reisio> I'm guessing a pi zero is smaller, though
[00:21] <reisio> and probably something else smaller than that :p
[00:22] <_unreal_> not sure
[00:22] <reisio> sorry that was put badly
[00:22] <_unreal_> I've decided I'm going to order an UPboard
[00:22] <reisio> a pi zero is smaller
[00:22] <reisio> :p
[00:22] <reisio> but it's probably vastly less powerful
[00:22] <reisio> s/probably //
[00:22] <reisio> what's an upboard?
[00:22] <_unreal_> hehe eerything is more powerful then this little sucker
[00:22] <_unreal_> but having full hardware decoder support helps
[00:23] <_unreal_> it was good as an XBMC but code has changed and a lot of the video is nolonger supported on it
[00:23] <_unreal_> :/
[00:23] <reisio> yeah
[00:23] <reisio> I think I'd just buy an x86/64 SBC these days
[00:23] <_unreal_> reisio, upboard
[00:23] <OerHeks> pi zero is arm11, that cubox arm7
[00:24] <reisio> the one hitch I've noticed is builtin CEC support is less common
[00:24] <reisio> _unreal_: what is it?
[00:24] <_unreal_> the cubox I have is arm5 I believe
[00:24] <_unreal_> reisio, 1.9ghz quad core intel atom, SAME FORMFACTOR as pi
[00:24] <_unreal_> upto 4gb ram
[00:24] <reisio> the arm versions don't directly map to performance, do they?
[00:24] <reisio> oh impressive
[00:24] <_unreal_> $99
[00:24] <reisio> the future has its pluses
[00:25] <_unreal_> usd
[00:25] <reisio> I've got a few rpis for things, and one brix
[00:25] <reisio> gotten*
[00:25] <reisio> for other people/purposes
[00:25]  * reisio should go
[00:25] <reisio> later on :)
[00:25] <OerHeks> ;-)
[00:26] <_unreal_> I'm looking at getting a the up-board, and 4 1.2ghz rb-pi and making a micro super computer
[00:26] <_unreal_> just thinking it would be cool for graphic rendering
[00:27] <OerHeks> http://www.cnx-software.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Raspberry_Pi_Zero_Cluster.jpg
[00:27] <OerHeks> yeah
[00:31] <_unreal_> ya would be cool to do cad work on a pi cluster
[00:31] <_unreal_> dont know how well it would work but prob wouldnt be bad
[00:31] <orlock> cool, briefly, then drive you nuts
[00:32] <_unreal_> why is that?
[00:32] <orlock> well, depending on the cad work, a lot of its about front end grunt
[00:32] <orlock> high speed visualisation, etc
[00:32] <_unreal_> heh.... would be better then anything I have currently
[00:33] <orlock> we have many CAD people here of all sorts
[00:34] <_unreal_> heh poor dog was crying, sun went down and it was dark
[00:34] <orlock> None of them use Pi's
[00:34] <orlock> they all use high end Dell workstations with big screens
[00:34] <_unreal_> I'm not planning on doing high end :)
[00:34] <orlock> i could see it being handy for cheap cluster/cloud development work
[00:34] <_unreal_> yep
[00:34] <_unreal_> I figure 5 boards, 4 pi and one upboard
[00:34] <orlock> testing things like MaaS, etc
[00:35] <_unreal_> Upboard being the main system and the pi's cluster slaves
[00:35] <_unreal_> tie it to a small Gig router
[00:36] <_unreal_> err gig switch
[00:36] <orlock> thanks for reminding me, i have an 8 port PoE switch i got for free to take home
[00:36] <_unreal_> oh this screen is driving me nuts, using this netbook is LOCO
[00:37] <_unreal_> so small
[00:37] <orlock> ahh
[00:37] <orlock> what sort?
[00:37] <_unreal_> lenovo
[00:37] <orlock> i run ubuntu on all my netbooks.. one HP, and a few Asus eeepc's
[00:37] <_unreal_> s10-3
[00:38] <_unreal_> just the small screen is bothering my eyes
[00:38] <orlock> i find its generally the resolution that bothers me
[00:38] <_unreal_> sitting infront of a 22" LCD that is waiting for the cubox to come to life :)
[00:38] <_unreal_> the touch pad does not work well on this model ether its wierd
[00:39] <_unreal_> doesnt matter if its windows or linux it has touch pad issues
[00:39] <_unreal_> oh well
[00:39] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support here please
[00:39] <bazhang> this belings in ##harware or #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:39] <_unreal_> bazhang, I'm waiting for the download to finish then I can start begging for aid
[00:39] <_unreal_> 98%
[00:40] <orlock> i installed windows 10 and now my ubuntu boot prompt doesnt appear
[00:40] <bazhang> _unreal_, you can chit chat in the appropiate place, which is not here
[00:40] <orlock> i left the ubuntu partition in place
[00:40] <bazhang> orlock, did you fix grub
[00:40] <bahzheng> _unreal_, take that one!
[00:41] <bazhang1> _unreal_, take this one tooo!
[00:42] <_unreal_> ?
[00:42] <bazhang1> bazhang, dont need to be so rude...
[00:42] <bazhang1> _unreal_, just having some fun ;o)
[00:43] <hochiko> Hi
[00:43] <orlock> bazhang: apparently not
[00:43] <ax562> so I ran chkdsk /r /f and still my windows partition fails to mount in ubuntu
[00:43] <hochiko> Yo
[00:43] <ax562> yo
[00:43] <_unreal_> ok running into my first errors https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/CuBox
[00:43] <luck_> when I run apt-get update it only hit 4 repositorie. Is it normal?
[00:43] <hochiko> How Are U
[00:44] <mateub> ok
[00:45] <_unreal_> I did typed: git co v4.5            git: 'co' is not a git command.      commit clone log
[00:45] <ax562> so I ran chkdsk /r /f and still my windows partition fails to mount in ubuntu
[00:45] <ax562> http://pastebin.com/yfzWbVzY
[00:45] <ax562> that's my error
[01:07] <ceg> greetings...can i get help here regarding synaptic?
[01:07] <octacian> ceg: what do you need to know?
[01:08] <ceg> i only have connections via https or ftp.  i have synaptic tweaked to install programs but it's still not pulling down the pkg screenshots...
[01:08] <ceg> i'm trying to get it to show me the screenshots
[01:08] <ceg> i got it working with software manager
[01:09] <ceg> i have to change http references to either https or ftp
[01:09] <octacian> ceg: this should work by default. Are you using Synaptic with custom settings?
[01:09] <ceg> but i can't find where the call to get screenshots resides in the synaptic pkg
[01:09] <ceg> i've done nothing so far with synaptic...
[01:10] <ceg> however with linux mint nothing works over https
[01:10] <octacian> ceg: why do you need that? Why don't you just use synaptic normally? I mean a simple apt install synaptic
[01:10] <ceg> i'll explain again...
[01:10] <ceg> i cannot connect to http...only https or ftp...
[01:10] <ceg> synaptic will not talk over https
[01:11] <octacian> OK... well, sadly, that's something a bit beyond my knowledge...
[01:11] <ceg> apt through the terminal would not work either until i changed the repositories to either https or ftp
[01:11] <octacian> It should use the same repository lists as apt
[01:12] <ceg> granted i think https should work once the apt-transport-https is installed however the only linux i've found in which they do work is fedor and it's flavors
[01:12] <ceg> yes...they all use the same repositories...
[01:13] <ceg> all 3 will install software since i've changed the repositories to either https or ftp...
[01:13] <ceg> i got software manager to pull down the screenshots now but i don't know where in synaptic to make the change
[01:13] <ceg> i can't even seem to find out where synaptic resides in my linux mint folder tree
[01:14] <octacian> That's one thing I really know absolutely nothing about - Linux Mint.
[01:14] <octacian> (at least anything that's different from Ubuntu_
[01:14] <Tin_man> should be under system
[01:15] <_unreal_> omg compiling with this computer is murder, single core atom 1.6 ghz
[01:15] <ceg> mint is just a desktop env on top of ub
[01:15] <ceg> my ub is 16
[01:16] <_unreal_> ceg ub?
[01:17] <ceg> ub = ubuntu
[01:17] <Tin_man> _unreal_, i think he means ubuntu
[01:17] <_unreal_> ahh
[01:17] <ceg> mint 18 is built on ubuntu 16
[01:17] <_unreal_> ! come to think of it I dont even remember what biuld I'm running
[01:17] <ceg> bwahahaha
[01:18] <ceg> i'm 60 years old..fixin to be 61 and trying to get back into programming.  i'm old and my brain has leaks.
[01:18] <_unreal_> interesting 14.4
[01:18] <ceg> 14?  you need to do a dist upgrade
[01:19] <ceg> can you tell me where syaptic resides in the ubuntu folder tree?
[01:19] <_unreal_> thats what they make lecithin
[01:19] <_unreal_> I have never used syaptic
[01:19] <Tin_man> ceg, i'm pretty sure it's in system
[01:20] <Tin_man> not on my mint right now, plus i run kde. but should be system
[01:21] <Tin_man> or maybe you have to apt-get it first.. don't recall
[01:21] <_unreal_> how do you tell if a cpu is a logical or physical 2 core processor?
[01:21] <Tin_man> might not be there by default
[01:21] <_unreal_> looking at lscpu
[01:22] <ceg> i think they quit including synaptic at ubuntu 14
[01:22] <ceg> doesn't your system info tell you that?
[01:22] <Tin_man> can't you just run apt-get install synaptic ?
[01:22] <_unreal_> I always thought synaptic was for mice and touch screen control
[01:22] <ceg> i think that's synapse or some such
[01:22] <_unreal_> ahh
[01:23] <ceg> everything these days is a syn...lol
[01:23] <love3> I played unreal when it was cool
[01:23] <ceg> i remember when zork was a baby
[01:23] <love3> But i was just a band wagon player, i sick to oa
[01:23] <ceg> i remember the days before windows
[01:24] <love3> Commodore?
[01:24] <ceg> in fact, i remember when DOS first came out
[01:24] <Tin_man> well ceg, if your as you said 60, i'm betting pinball was one of your first interactive games..
[01:24] <ceg> my first computer was a timex/sinclair 1000
[01:24] <orlock> ceg: i learnt to type playing advent on a 9600bps terminal hookup up to a CP/M system
[01:24] <_unreal_> I got it cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:25] <ceg> rofl...ummm...probably so.  sears used to sell a pong game that hooked to a b/w tv
[01:25] <orlock> ceg: an ex Digital Research employee hangs out in one of the other channels i'm in
[01:25] <ceg> your control panel->system info should have told you
[01:25] <ceg> cool
[01:26] <love3> I started on Windows 3.1 playing dangerous Dave
[01:26] <orlock> whoops, straying off topic
[01:26]  * orlock shuts up
[01:26] <ceg> before windows there was a program called WinDOS
[01:26] <meggercat> hi, I'm having trouble getting Xenial to work with my webcam Acer 5986:055a
[01:26] <ceg> did you try cheese?
[01:26] <ceg> worked a charm on my acer
[01:26] <meggercat> yes
[01:26] <Tin_man> i remember them all, even borland Side kick
[01:27] <ceg> borland...there's some memories.  i remember when dbase didn't have a version number
[01:27] <_unreal_> arg.... still compiling
[01:27] <meggercat> cheese says 'no device detected'
[01:27] <ceg> zenix...xenix
[01:27] <meggercat> I can't find any info on it
[01:27] <Tin_man> well, ceg were the same age, i was born in 55..
[01:28] <crafty1>  something tells me the webcam needs a driver...
[01:28] <ceg> hmmm...it picked the webcam right up on my acer.  seems there was another i played with too
[01:28] <ceg> oct 24
[01:28] <meggercat> I'm on a thinkpad E550
[01:28] <orlock> Most webcams "just work" via the UVC driver these days?
[01:28] <Tin_man> dec 16 here
[01:28] <love3> Lol
[01:28] <meggercat> orlock, negative
[01:29] <meggercat> fresh install and... nothing
[01:29] <Tin_man> anyway good luck, i'm calling it a day..
[01:29] <crafty1> I would figure out which model it is then google which package ubuntu has the driver in
[01:29] <ceg> try camorama
[01:30] <orlock> meggercat:  lsmod | grep uvc
[01:30] <meggercat> crafty Acer 5986:055a
[01:31] <ceg> ok...well, i'm outa here.  got a cup of coffee calling my name.  thanks y'all...later
[01:31] <meggercat> ok, what paste service should I use for you orlock?
[01:34] <orlock> meggercat: Is it more than a single line?
[01:34] <orlock> There should only be a few entries i thought? Just msg it to me?
[01:34] <meggercat> orlock, yes
[01:35] <love3> Talk
[01:35] <quarters> has anyone reported any cons in switching from ext4 to btrfs, namely in performance?
[01:35] <meggercat> how do I paste to the ubuntu pastebin from the cli?
[01:35] <love3> Good question
[01:35] <love3> Bump
[01:36] <orlock>  middle button to paste usually?
[01:36] <orlock> or edit -> paste
[01:36] <orlock> its been a UI annoyance for a while now imo
[01:37] <love3> What is btrfs, as in better file system?
[01:37] <quarters> love3: yes
[01:38] <love3> I'll look into that when i get to laptop
[01:38] <love3> I'm away from home
[01:38] <meggercat> orlock, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19848577/
[01:38] <quarters> love3: thanks
[01:41] <malek> hello
[01:41] <malek> any one herr
[01:41] <crafty1> !ask | malek
[01:41] <crafty1> Theres 1795 people here
[01:42] <malek> i'm new a want to learn how to hack can any one help me !
[01:42] <love3> Start with something extremely difficult and work your way backwards
[01:44] <malek> !!!
[01:44] <malek> love3 what do you mean ?
[01:46] <meggercat> I'm on s THinkpad E550, can anyone help me set up my ebcam?
[01:46] <meggercat> webcam*
[01:47] <_unreal_> it should be working nativly
[01:47] <_unreal_> what is the issue?
[01:47] <meggercat> _unreal_, it isn't
[01:47] <meggercat> cheese says no device found
[01:47] <_unreal_> what does: lsusb say
[01:48] <meggercat> _unreal_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19849672/
[01:49] <_unreal_> hum
[01:49] <meggercat> that's what I said
[01:50] <_unreal_> it doesnt mean thats a problem
[01:50] <meggercat> well, I'm looking at it at it definitely isn't working
[01:50] <ax562> can someone help me with this error?
[01:50] <ax562> http://pastebin.com/BKdHjny0
[01:51] <_unreal_> meggercat, most laptop built in web cams are a usb device
[01:52] <ax562> i turned off fastboot in windows 8.1, shutdown properly and ran chkdsk c: /f /r
[01:52] <ax562> still get the error though?
[01:53] <meggercat> _unreal_, I don't care what kind of device it is; I just want it to work
[01:55] <meggercat> brb
[01:56] <Bashing-om> ax562: The report tells you " exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
[01:56] <squinty> meggercat,  you should be able to see if the computer recognizes your webcan at all by seeing if it's listed in "dmesg".   In a terminal try the following commands:   dmesg | grep -i uvcvideo   and/or   dmesg | grep -i cam
[01:57] <ax562> Bashing-om, yes but windows is not hibernated
[01:57] <Bashing-om> " ax562 Boot back into Windows .. and completely shut Windows down . So long as "fast boot " is active .. then Windows has control of the drive .
[01:57] <YankDownUnder> "Windows" might not be hibernated, but hibernation might still be turned on.
[01:57] <ax562> Bashing-om, I've already done that a few times, fastboot was never set, and I ran chkdsk
[01:58] <YankDownUnder> ax562: https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/kb/920730
[02:00] <ax562> fucken windows updates
[02:00] <ax562> brb
[02:00] <ax562> hadn't tried that method
[02:01] <codepython777>  whats the correct way of installing libuv (1.0) on ubuntu 14.04?
[02:02] <meggercat1> ok, I'm back
[02:02] <meggercat1> so, can anyone help me figure out how to set up my webcam?
[02:03] <crafty1> you were working with someone before what did they do with you
[02:03] <sacarlson2> meggercat1: is it a usb webcam?
[02:03] <meggercat1> crafty1, just asked for the output of lsusb
[02:03] <meggercat1> sacarlson2: I don't know
[02:04] <crafty1> OK what model laptop is it again - Not just Acer but like whole model #
[02:04] <meggercat1> Thinkpad E550
[02:04] <sacarlson2> meggercat1:  is it external to your computer?
[02:04] <crafty1> Its not USB its on his laptop
[02:04] <meggercat1> It's a built-in
[02:04] <crafty1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/662934/webcam-not-found-on-thinkpad-e550-ubuntu-14-04
[02:04] <Bashing-om> axisys: This ? Disclaimer: this must be run on your windows partition (inside CMD). Shutdown Windows 8 with the following command: ' shutdown /s /t 0 ' .
[02:04] <sacarlson2> meggercat1: did you try install and run cheese?
[02:04] <meggercat1> Cheese is installed
[02:05] <meggercat1> it says 'device not found'
[02:06] <meggercat1> so, no ideas?
[02:06] <YankDownUnder> meggercat1: Is it safe to assume you've installed all third-party drivers that Ubuntu requires...?
[02:06] <crafty1> please read the link I gave you. its a known bug
[02:06] <crafty1> Its a driver issue its not supported
[02:06] <meggercat1> awwwwww
[02:06] <crafty1> it has nothing to do with the program hes using
[02:06] <codepython777> is there a ubuntu 14.04 LTS backports?
[02:07] <YankDownUnder> Unsupported driver...lovely...
[02:07] <codepython777> like debian backports?
[02:07] <crafty1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-utopic/+bug/1433906
[02:07] <ax562> thanks YankDownUnder !
[02:07] <ax562> that did it
[02:07] <ax562> fuck windows updates
[02:08] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Yet another reason why I merely support Windows - and refuse to have to sully my machines...hmm...
[02:08] <crafty1> meggercat1: The first link I sent had this question asked on AskUbuntu and  that has the link the the Launchpad bug page.  They are different laptops but the same webcam device.  The bug is also unassigned it seems.
[02:08] <ax562> yeah but there is 1 program that keeps me binded to windows
[02:08] <meggercat1> ok, well thanks then
[02:09] <ax562> and I'm sure there are another few I might be forgetting
[02:09] <_unreal_> any way to get a progress status when I run make?
[02:09] <sacarlson2> meggercat1: looks like your best option is to install the older ubuntu 14.04 that is said to work with that cam.  unless you want to try install patches as I don't think you want to
[02:09] <YankDownUnder> ax562: What program? Are you sure it's not a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" that most "Windows" users suffer from?
[02:09] <meggercat1> no, I don't think so
[02:09] <ax562> but for the most part, if pro tools hd worked on linux I probably would completely ditch windoze YankDownUnder
[02:09] <meggercat1> any idea how long a fis likke this takes?
[02:09] <meggercat1> fix like this*
[02:10] <sacarlson2> codepython777: yes they call it ppa that has backports
[02:10] <YankDownUnder> ax562: This is  why I have Macs. :)
[02:10] <ax562> ewwwww
[02:10] <ax562> gross!
[02:10] <ax562> macs are even worse than windows machines
[02:10] <duoi> ax562 you haven't used windows 10, clearly
[02:10] <ax562> YankDownUnder do not tell me you run an Iphone as well?
[02:11] <ax562> I have and windows 10 blows
[02:11] <octacian> duoi: Windows 10 is the WORST
[02:11] <YankDownUnder> ax562: That is your opinion. I was using Protools on Macs long before it was on PC...ahem...ditto with Photoshop...and Master Tracks...and Sound Forge...hmm...
[02:11] <ax562> I prefer windows 8.1
[02:11] <octacian> YankDownUnder: have you ever noticed that with every update to Mac OS X, it gets slower?
[02:11] <YankDownUnder> ax562: I use what is necessary to do the job at hand. Which then precludes anything "Microsoft".
[02:11] <ax562> yeah I only started on pro tools version 7
[02:12] <duoi> i was off the osx bandwagon until windows 10, was even an early adopter of windows 8, and im a "journalist" for a windows site, but i cant do it anymore. ive gone pure elementaryOS & osx now.
[02:12] <YankDownUnder> octacian: Actually, sorry, no, bro. I haven't. Then again, I know the OS extremely well, and the required tweaks, etc etc etc...
[02:12] <ax562> and use the same or better software on windows
[02:12] <love3> I'm just on Ubuntu, nothing else
[02:12] <love3> It just works
[02:13] <ax562> and with the 1000$ saved not paying apple to screw me I buy 250$ choice beers
[02:13] <duoi> love3, eh, unless you're trying to use wifi on 16.10 :p
[02:13] <ax562> 250 choice beers
[02:13] <love3> Is that so, well be sure to inform your senator
[02:13] <octacian> YankDownUnder: yeah I do use whatever I have to sometimes, but really dislike it. I guess I should say it gets slower for older computers. Whereas Ubuntu seems to get faster. Even for old computers.
[02:13] <ax562> love3 yeah but there are somethings that cannnot run on ubuntu...sigh
[02:14] <love3> Yeah, I don't like wine
[02:14] <love3> It's not pure enough
[02:14] <YankDownUnder> Since 2011, this particular Macbook Pro I have (an i7 with 8gb of RAM and a 256gb SSD) has booted up in 11 seconds. It shuts down in less than four. It doesn't nag me about updates or upgrades. It just works. It's used for graphics, for design, for VM's, for network troubleshooting, for audio/video production...hmm...seems to be doing the job quite well... :)
[02:14] <ax562> from my experience wine is pretty horrible
[02:14] <octacian> YankDownUnder: hmmm maybe it's just 2008 Macs then...
[02:15] <ax562> yeah I just dislike apple as a product, company, and way of life (sheeple)
[02:15] <octacian> Wine works OK. But you have to have a lot of time to mess with the initial set up of each program.
[02:16] <YankDownUnder> VM's work always the best. Easy enough to fix when they're borked, too.
[02:17] <octacian> YankDownUnder: I've considered VMs, and can definitely do it now taht I have 8GB of RAM. Haven't figured out the setup though. I wonder how it would do specifically with Unity3D
[02:18] <YankDownUnder> octacian: Try. Experimentation is what gets you ahead, hmm.
[02:18] <ax562> but either way...to each is own and thanks for all the help everyone
[02:19] <octacian> YankDownUnder: yeah, that's what I'm going to do. I didn't have time before and it didn't seem to work that well when I was trying because I only had 2GB of RAM.
[02:20] <YankDownUnder> octacian: Yeah - 2gb doesn't get you far (at least nowadays)...8gb works great...obviously 16gb is better...32gb is "hot as"...and more than that? Well...ooooo.... :)
[02:21] <ax562> I have another question
[02:22] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Shoot
[02:22] <ax562> I went into additional driver and added an amd proprietary driver
[02:22] <ax562> now every time i boot my system I get an error message about a bug
[02:22] <ax562> and I need to change my drive to quiet mode or update my bios
[02:22] <orlock> YankDownUnder: 32G in my new desktop i just installed ubuntu on. Anything with more that that usually ends up in a rack anyway
[02:23] <ax562> so I went back into additional drivers
[02:23] <YankDownUnder> orlock: :)
[02:23] <ax562> and disabled the driver I had enabled
[02:23] <ax562> but still the problem persist
[02:23] <ax562> any ideas?
[02:23] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Without know what exactly the error is, it's hard to read minds.
[02:24] <ax562> lol
[02:24] <ax562> yeah I would have to take a picture of it
[02:24] <ax562> let me reboot
[02:24] <ax562> brb
[02:29] <ax562> back
[02:29] <ax562> here is the error
[02:29] <ax562> http://i.imgur.com/a78Fy8K.jpg
[02:31] <_unreal_> I'm on an other part of the building processes and its asking me a million questions: make -j5 dtbs
[02:31] <_unreal_> lots of yes/no and numbers questions
[02:31] <_unreal_> following this guide https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/CuBox
[02:31] <_unreal_> is there a way to just make witha ll options? instead of having to answer yes over and over
[02:31] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Have you followed the suggestions on making the changes in your BIOS and/or upgrading your BIOS?
[02:32] <ax562> yeah, i tried changing to quiet mode
[02:32] <ax562> but I believe I have the latest bios.
[02:33] <YankDownUnder> ax562: "I believe..." - you should most likely double-check, bro...it's best to be "absolute", hmm? Else, time gets wasted, energy gets wasted.
[02:34] <ax562> this all started when I changed to proprietary drivers in "additional drivers" app
[02:34] <ax562> but I changed back to default state of the app but still the problem persist
[02:35] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Ok...fair enough...here's something to try - to see if THIS might do something...open a terminal, and type: sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[02:35] <ax562> unfortuantely my setup right now would require a lot of unpluggin to be able to check the man sticker, unable to do that atm
[02:36] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Yeah, all good - just follow what I typed above, mate...let's see what we get, hmm?
[02:37] <ax562> it returns nothing YankDownUnder
[02:37] <ax562> it asks for password
[02:37] <ax562> once I put it in, the cursor skips a line and just blinks
[02:37] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Yes. "sudo" is supposed to do that....just wait a tick.
[02:38] <ax562> nvidia-304-updates
[02:38] <ax562> amd64-microcode
[02:38] <ax562> nvidia-304
[02:38] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Sometimes it takes a few minutes to return a result...
[02:38] <ax562> my bad it just super lagged it
[02:38] <YankDownUnder> ax562: AH...well, there ya have it.
[02:38] <ax562> amd64-microcode
[02:38] <ax562> that is the bad one
[02:38] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Don't assume
[02:39] <YankDownUnder> ax562: So, now that you've achieved that, here's what to try next: IN that same open terminal, type: sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall [02:41] <_unreal_> arg compiling again
[02:41] <ax562> it's only installing the suspected package "amd64-microcode
[02:42] <ax562> brb
[02:42] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Patience. Just wait, and when it's done, follow any instructions, hmm?
[02:42] <ax562> rebooting
[02:50] <ax562> same error on bootup YankDownUnder
[02:50] <ax562> now this time I also get an error in ubuntu while startinig
[02:50] <ax562> system error calling out "ubuntu drivers"
[02:51] <adam__> Hello im having trouble setting up a wifi device is the anyone that could walk me through it?
[02:51] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Ok...so again, back to the BIOS issue - have you actually updated the BIOS to the latest - as was remarked on earlier?
[02:52] <sacarlson2> adam__: any part numbers to provide us?  is the wifi device internal or external
[02:52] <adam__> I have a linksys WR702n and I want to use it as a repeater, ive used it before with windows but i recently switched to ubunutu and im having a hard time navigating
[02:53] <LOL> HELLO
[02:53] <adam__> All of my mini usb wifi devices are not working, dropping signals
[02:53] <ax562> YankDownUnder it's been years
[02:53] <ax562> this is an older machine
[02:53] <adam__> Im running ubuntu on a shuttle pc
[02:53] <LOL> im running ubuntu on my xbox
[02:54] <ax562> can't I just use terminal and uninstall the drivers?
[02:54] <sacarlson2> adam__: do you happen to know what the ip address of your linksys is?
[02:54] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Doesn't matter. Have you looked? Have you checked the "maker's" site? The BIOS maker's site?
[02:54] <adam__> And this repeater allows you to take your wifi and then send it through ethernet
[02:54] <ax562> yes years ago
[02:54] <LOL> do you all send Bigg ddos attacks?
[02:54] <ax562> I would have to check again but I really doubt they are release updates on this machine anymore
[02:54] <LOL> BiG JaX does
[02:55] <adam__> I do and ive been able to set my ip to access the device and set it up but then after that im not being able to connect through ethernet
[02:55] <YankDownUnder> ax562: yes, you can remove the drivers just as what we did a few minutes again - wtih the same command. You can see the available options with "sudo ubuntu-drivers --help" -> and therefore you can remove them - which is easier and more efficient.
[02:56] <ax562> I'm using the gui atm
[02:56] <ax562> I will check the commands and status once it's done
[02:56] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Fair enough.
[02:57] <sacarlson2> adam__: I'm looking for a manual
[02:59] <LOL> hello people have you heard of the new ubuntu update?
[03:00] <ax562> YankDownUnder is there a way to clear the bug message
[03:00] <ax562> I know the driver is not installed anymore but the error message persist
[03:01] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Have you actually looked through the forums yet - or Googled it yet?
[03:01] <ax562> http://pastebin.com/4CWuwYrj
[03:02] <ax562> ^check it out
[03:02] <ax562> you can see I successfully uninstalled the driver
[03:02] <ax562> but the error message still persists
[03:02] <ax562> is there a way to clear that error boot text?
[03:03] <ax562> yeah I googled it, but as far as I could tell the bug has never been resolved and it's really old
[03:03] <love3> If you suspected something went viral and it was you  but the poster didn't know your name, what would you search for
[03:04] <ax562> "love3 viral post"
[03:05] <love3> Mmm
[03:05] <love3> But the name
[03:05] <YankDownUnder> ax562: here's a quick question for you...since this issue, have you done an update to your system at all?
[03:06] <ax562> no
[03:06] <Grorco> Hi does ubuntu automatically save the size of a window overriding the coding behind it?
[03:06] <ax562> I've run "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" though
[03:07] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Do it again...like now...please...just to amuse me, if anything else - I'm trying to work this through step-by-step, hmm?
[03:08] <ax562> done
[03:09] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Is the system asking for a reboot?
[03:10] <ax562> no
[03:11] <YankDownUnder> ax562: So we go back to what was mentioned before about the BIOS update. Hmm. Being that the error is directly concerned with how the BIOS and the kernel interact...
[03:12] <ax562> yes but now  I have succeffully uninstalled the driver
[03:12] <ax562> but the error message persist
[03:12] <ax562> is there a boor error mesage flag I can clear or something?
[03:12] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Yes...and I've been browsing for the error...
[03:13] <ax562> it's a really old one
[03:13] <ax562> looks like it affected many users
[03:13] <ax562> and many oems
[03:16] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Doesn't matter if it's "really old" - the question remains as to whether or not you've actually looked for and installed - AND/OR verified the BIOS for that machine. Either which, open a terminal and please type: sudo apt-autoremove && sudo apt autoclean
[03:19] <ax562> done
[03:20] <YankDownUnder> ax562: So then did those commands cause anything in particular? Remember, I'm blind - I cannot read minds, neither...so you have to communicate what the result was, eh?
[03:24] <ax562> looks like they did nothing
[03:24] <ax562> I had ran those commands yesterday
[03:25] <YankDownUnder> ax562: I have no idea what happened yesterday, and therefore, it means pretty much nil to me now...hmm...
[03:26] <YankDownUnder> What is the machine make/model...(egads I'm not getting paid for this and it's Monday arvo...egads)
[03:28] <ax562> please hold
[03:28] <raitucarp> hi anyone
[03:29] <raitucarp> please help me
[03:29] <raitucarp> http://askubuntu.com/questions/799933/ubuntu-16-startup-finished-in-1min-32-747s-kernel
[03:29] <raitucarp> my kernel takes 1min long when booting
[03:29] <raitucarp> :(
[03:30] <Grorco>  /msg NickServ identify Placemat1
[03:30] <orlock> raitucarp: hardware?
[03:30] <orlock> not running from usb2 is it>
[03:30] <raitucarp> @orlock: what specific hardware?
[03:30] <raitucarp> nope
[03:31] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: Um...you just broadcast your password to the entire channel. You might want to change that now...
[03:31] <ax562> Grorco lol
[03:31] <Grorco> YankDownUnder, I saw it :(
[03:32] <orlock> all i saw was *********
[03:33] <raitucarp> anyone can help me?
[03:33] <raitucarp> :( Startup finished in 1min 32.747s (kernel) + 18.861s (userspace) = 1min 51.609s
[03:34] <orlock> raitucarp: what is it installed on?
[03:34] <orlock> CPU/disk ?
[03:35] <raitucarp> @orlock: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Linux 4.4.0-31-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 13 00:07:12 UTC 2016) x86-64
[03:35] <raitucarp> orlock: wait a minute
[03:35] <ax562> dell dimension e521
[03:36] <ax562> brb
[03:36] <raitucarp> orlock: for cpu info http://pastebin.com/z68ip5xh
[03:37] <orlock> raitucarp: Disk is the important bit
[03:38] <raitucarp> orlock: what command should I run?
[03:38] <raitucarp> orlock: lshw?
[03:39] <orlock> .. You dont know what hardware you installed it onto?
[03:39] <orlock> SSD? spinning rust?
[03:39] <raitucarp> orlock: I know, but for details
[03:39] <raitucarp> orlock: no, I just have 1 ssd
[03:39] <raitucarp> orlock: but my Ubuntu installed on my sata
[03:41] <raitucarp> orlock: I want to produce as details as possible, is lshw fine?
[03:41] <orlock> sata's the interface, do you mean theres only one SSD connected via sata? or you have an M2 ssd and a SATA spinning disk?
[03:42] <orlock> dmesg | grep sda
[03:45] <raitucarp> orlock: http://pastebin.com/raw/eNeQqPD9
[03:46] <raitucarp> orlock: for hdparam http://pastebin.com/raw/SB4MMuLU
[03:46] <orlock> Unsure, that does seem unusually slow though
[03:46] <orlock> though, maybe not that slow
[03:47] <orlock> that's a really old drive!
[03:47] <raitucarp> orlock: but my plot say it :(
[03:47] <raitucarp> orlock: not sure, because I run ubuntu 14 and windows 10 on it before Ubuntu 16.04 and just fine
[03:48] <orlock> raitucarp: It's been so long since i've booted off a disk that old
[03:48] <raitucarp> and with windows 10, it's fast enough
[03:48] <raitucarp> orlock: what is really happening kernel takes so long time?
[03:49] <orlock> 250GB 7200rpm sata disk
[03:49] <orlock> Unsure - no response i could give would be usefull sorry
[03:49] <orlock> except "Buy an SSD"
[03:51] <raitucarp> orlock: I have 1 SSD, but I can't install Ubuntu on it. But, thanks for your explanation. :) I hope someone really find the solution of my issue in Ubuntu ask :(
[03:52] <orlock> raitucarp: Every time i use a PC with a spinning disk now, it feels broken to me
[03:53] <raitucarp> orlock: yeah, ikr
[03:55] <raitucarp> but, I am looking for solution, because previously, this disk can run windows 10 fast enough and no issue, and ubuntu 14 too. I don't know what is really happening with Ubuntu 16 kernel
[03:56] <orlock> blame systemd
[03:57] <raitucarp> orlock: I did systemd-analyze blame and systemd-analyze plot > plot.html
[03:58] <YankDownUnder> Now I know I can blame "WTC" on systemd, earthquakes on systemd, typhoons and hurricanes on systemd, tsunami's on systemd, terrorist activities on systemd - yep...sums it all up...nicely done.
[03:58] <orlock> YankDownUnder: And the crippled NBN
[03:59] <orlock> And this bad weather
[03:59] <YankDownUnder> orlock: Dang...nearly forgot that- yeah! The cheesy NBN too! - OH - and Tony Abbot's haircut!
[03:59] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: systemd conspiracy theory, uh? :(
[03:59] <raitucarp> what about elon musk
[03:59] <YankDownUnder> Elon's not bad...just dain bramaged.
[03:59] <raitucarp> lol
[04:00] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: can you help me with my current issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/799933/ubuntu-16-startup-finished-in-1min-32-747s-kernel
[04:01] <Guest61786> Hi every one .. i have installed gns3 in my ubuntu desktop using commands in terminal ... i want to uninstall it ... any one can help me ?
[04:01] <ahrc333ff> Guest61786: apt-get purge <packagename>
[04:02] <sacarlson2> Guest61786:  commands in a terminal is not enuf info.  was it a deb file?
[04:02] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: Have you recently updated the system and cleaned out all the caches? That's my first question.
[04:02] <sacarlson2> Guest61786:  and if it was ahrc333ff is correct
[04:03] <Guest61786> sacarlson2 , i used these commands "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gns3/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install gns3-gui "
[04:04] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: No, this is fresh install. But I install this ubuntu from usb
[04:04] <sacarlson2> Guest61786: sudo apt-get purge gns3-gui
[04:05] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: Ok. So fresh install. Since you've done the fresh installation, and you've booted into the "brand new system", it is wise to immediately "update" and also, make sure all the "third party drivers" are installed - all of which is going to require a reboot, hmm...yeah?
[04:05] <Guest61786> sacarlson2 , i want to delet every thing related to gns3 .. not only the gui
[04:06] <ahrc333ff> Guest61786: if all you did to install the program was the above line, then the apt-get purge solution will reverse everythign you did.
[04:06] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: yeah, I did it. And there is no problem at all
[04:06] <sacarlson2> Guest61786: the purge will remove all system common parts.  if there are files it generated in your /home/user account that might be left behind
[04:07] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: Er...wait a second - so you've done the install, you've already upgraded/updated and installed all the necessary hoo-hah and the likes, and now there is no problem? Is that what you're saying?
[04:07] <glrrf> do software updates require kernel updates too? i.e., can weechat 1.5 update on ubuntu 12.04?
[04:08] <tatertots> i'm not a bot
[04:08] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: I install this ubuntu yesterday, and I did update & upgrade too, but after couple of restarting, I figure it out that boot time takes so  loong. I just wonder if someone can help me read dmesg
[04:08] <sacarlson2> glrrf: it depends on what they changed, sometimes they also make backports for older systems
[04:09] <ubuntu-11_> #catacombs
[04:09] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: I've read the log you posted. I'm going step by step. I do not read minds, nor can I see into the past. I'm blind, and therefore I ask, hmm?
[04:10] <glrrf> ok thanks sacarlson2 :)
[04:11] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: Yeah, np. I just looking for people help me to figure it out what is really going on with my kernel. I will reproduce and paste all logs as much as possible to diagnose this issue.
[04:11] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp:  This is why I asked about cleaning out caches and the likes. Have you run: "sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt autoclean" yet ?
[04:11] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: Because AskUbuntu is not realtime. I ask here
[04:12] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: Yeah I did it too
[04:12] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: Right...next - when you reboot the machine, are there any USB devices attached or is there a CD/DVD in the drive...?
[04:15] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: No cd/dvd. Just one usb device which is a SSD hard drive. I did remove it all, and tried rebooting and nothing affected. The boot time still takes a long time
[04:16] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: maybe you are right, this is systemd conspiracies lol
[04:16] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: So even without the USB/SSD attached, the boot is still deathly slow...yes?
[04:16] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: Yap
[04:17] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: or maybe I reinstall this ubuntu with iso burned to dvd instead of usb
[04:17] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: Firstly, if you look through the "blame messages" - it's taking what, bloody 17s to go through temp/caches...???? Right...now that ain't quite right...which is why I intially asked about temp/cache...hmm...
[04:17] <Guest61786> ahrc333ff, sacarlson2 , "dpkg warning while removing gns3-gui, directory '/user/share/gns3/gns3-gui/bin not empty so not removed" ... i want every thing about gns3 to be removed
[04:18] <Armin13> hello
[04:18] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: None of that is going to matter mate...WHAT you use for install has no real affect on the installation - unless you have a "dependent" installation that requires an external devices...if that makes sense...
[04:18] <Guest61786> ahrc333ff, "dpkg warning while removing gns3-gui, directory '/user/share/gns3/gns3-gui/bin not empty so not removed" ... i want every thing about gns3 to be removed
[04:19] <orlock> Unless the disks were somehow configured with a block size or partition layout thats incompatible with the spinner
[04:19] <orlock> but i cant really think of what that could be
[04:19] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: hmm, so what's your suggestion with that blame message? should I run sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt autoclean again? Because it's nothing affected with that :(
[04:20] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: no, don't bother...I'm looking at something...patience..
[04:20] <Guest61786> sacarlson2 , "dpkg warning while removing gns3-gui, directory '/user/share/gns3/gns3-gui/bin not empty so not removed" ... i want every thing about gns3 to be removed
[04:21] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: Read this, bro: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/162594/systemd-slow-boot-systemd-tmpfiles-setup
[04:21] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: wait
[04:21] <Guest61786> Armin13, hello
[04:22] <superkuh> Hi. I use Ubuntu 10.04. Let's not get into why I do and just take it as a personal preference. I know it's out of support. But recently even the archive repositories have disappeared: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19862588/  Did Canonical completely abandon the old OS installs even to the point of removing the archive repos? Or are there others somewhere I can use?
[04:23] <superkuh> If I had known they were going to remove even the archive repos (as opposed to just stopping updates, fixes, etc) I would've mirrored them locally.
[04:23] <raitucarp> YankDownUnder: Ok, thanks. I will rebooting and be right back
[04:23] <YankDownUnder> superkuh: If you search, you'll find "archives" out there...trust me, you're not the only human being that's been through this issue, hmm...just a matter of patience and digging.
[04:23] <YankDownUnder> raitucarp: Fair enough.
[04:23] <superkuh> I'm using the archives though.
[04:24] <superkuh> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe
[04:24] <superkuh> Oho! I went and looked via http. Apparently, "[ ]	Archive-Update-in-Progress-ubuntu-hanger	2016-07-18 04:24 	"
[04:24] <YankDownUnder> superkuh: Well, if you're happy with THAT archive, good on ya.
[04:24] <superkuh> So they must be doing something *right now* that has broken them.
[04:25] <superkuh> I guess I'll just wait a day or two and see if they fix it.
[04:25] <YankDownUnder> superkuh: I'd always trust a "non Ubuntu" archive - like somewhere in Germany...or Japan...or in another strange freaky country like Australia...
[04:26] <orlock> superkuh: Obscure hardware, or you really like the setup?
[04:26] <superkuh> It's a personal preference. Let's not get into it.
[04:26] <superkuh> I run modern Ubuntu on other machines but this one just has too much custom stuff.
[04:26]  * YankDownUnder is pissing himself with the giggles over that statement
[04:27] <orlock> Yeah, i'm the same with my imaging laptop
[04:28] <ax562> YankDownUnder so I found out there was 1 more bios release after the one I have
[04:29] <ax562> but I can't install because it checks windows OS and state incompatible os version
[04:29] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Good on ya! Awesome! And you've installed it or you're going to install it, yeah?
[04:30] <Guest61786> Hi every one ... i have installed gns3 from commands in terminal ... i want to uninstall it ... i want some help
[04:30] <ax562> I ran as admin and tried compatibility mode of vist, xp service pack 3 and 2
[04:30] <ax562> vista
[04:30] <ax562> no dice
[04:30] <ax562> so atm my only real issue is just that dumb error message
[04:30] <ax562> huge headache for just some dumb text
[04:31] <YankDownUnder> ax562: You lost me in bits there, mate...WHAT version is it looking for, eh?
[04:31] <afidegnum> hello, what's the best local mail server I can use for testing mail utilities, with python?  i m using ubuntu 14.04
[04:31] <ax562> windows version < windows 7
[04:31] <YankDownUnder> It's not about "just some dumb text"...but hey, if you want to leave it at that, then that's your choice, not mine. I prefer to have "all my strings tied, all my i's dotted and t's crossed", as it were...
[04:32] <orlock> afidegnum: probably postfix, imho at least
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Is that the version it WANTS?
[04:32] <orlock> afidegnum: assuming you meant SMTP and not POP3/IMAP
[04:32] <ax562> well, atm it is just about dumb text because the drivers are no longer installed
[04:32] <afidegnum> how do I configure postfix to be running with localhost?
[04:32] <ax562> yup
[04:32] <superkuh> afidegnum, you'd probably have better luck in #postfix
[04:32] <afidegnum> well, just my local pc, with features like user@localhost
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> ax562: (grumbling) - does the error stop you from booting or using the OS?
[04:33] <orlock> afidegnum: Dedicated channel for postfix..
[04:33] <ax562> no
[04:33] <ax562> it's just painfully irritating text I must see everytime I boot intto ubntu
[04:33] <ax562> ubuntu
[04:33] <YankDownUnder> ax562: So you boot, you use your machine, no stopping, nothing - just the niggling little message and that's that, right? It doesn't stop you from doing anything or surfing or chatting or cleaning the house?
[04:34] <ax562> nope, just super annoying
[04:34] <ax562> little things like that really bug me
[04:34] <ax562> I like to have a spic and span computer envirenmont
[04:34] <YankDownUnder> ax562: If you're staring at the screen every single time you're booting, well, um, you do know that there is a REAL life somewhere, right? Or is this an OCD thingo?
[04:35] <ax562> probably man, I'm a sound engineer
[04:35] <abelur_> Hi anyone on ubuntu 16.04 have issues with connected over vpnclient (cisco vpn) .... basically dns resolve stops working when vpn is connected
[04:35] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Um...if you require a Windows 7 "OS" - you *do* know that there are USB installations of Win7, right?
[04:35] <ax562> I think ocd is a real posibility\
[04:35] <abelur_> everything, i need to disconnect from the vpn to actually browse a site
[04:35] <Grorco> Hi I'm having a problem with PyQt, I'm not sure if it's a glitch with ubuntu or pyqt :(
[04:35] <ax562> no it has to be vista or before
[04:35] <ax562> well xp or vista
[04:35] <ax562> but fuck that
[04:35] <ax562> too much work
[04:35] <YankDownUnder> ax562: hehehehehe...don't get me started on doing audio/video/media production or engineering...hehehehehehe
[04:36] <ax562> well you get on that ;P
[04:36] <ax562> 50 recordings laters and 101 mixes...it still not right!
[04:37] <ax562> If someone knew how to clear that messasge that would be the easiest fix
[04:37] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Ah! Well, here's something for you to look into, bro! It's called "Hiren's Boot CD" - and it can be installed onto a USB - the version I use for troubleshooting is 9.5 - the XP environment that runs on it is quite cool...and all runs from the bloody USB or CD or DVD...whichever you desire....ha. Search for that "Hiren's Boot CD" - and then dig for the version, bro.
[04:37] <Legendre_> So.. this desktop machine has been a total slug ever since installing the LTS.
[04:38] <Legendre_> it's getting damn unnerving.
[04:38] <YankDownUnder> ax562: http://www.hiren.info/
[04:39] <ax562> what's that?
[04:39] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: I'm sorry. It's all my fault. I shall assume all of the blame for your machine running slow. Ubuntu doesn't pay me enough. (this is a joke...trying to get you to relax before anyone can give you a hand)
[04:39] <ax562> well, I can see what it is
[04:39] <Legendre_> TOP doesn't seem to show much that looks out of place.. what should I be looking at?
[04:39] <ax562> but I assume you want me to run one of those boot cds :p
[04:40] <YankDownUnder> ax562: Yersh...do go see...creating an XP boot is a good thing - especially since it will allow you to flash your BIOS with a version that is acceptable, eh? Yeah.
[04:40] <Legendre_> YankDownUnder: I was planning to blame you, so thanks fo stepping-up.
[04:40] <Bashing-om> ax562: To add to the mix: " c. Check the date of the microcode package: it needs to be newer than your BIOS / UEFI! " : https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/microcode >> ' apt show amd64-microcode ' .
[04:40] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: Coolbeans.
[04:40] <Legendre_> seems like it's always out of ram, swapping or something.
[04:42] <abelur_> Hi anyone on ubuntu 16.04 have issues with connected over vpnclient (cisco vpn) while using a vpn split tunnel .... basically dns resolve stops working when vpn is connected, everything, i need to disconnect from the vpn to actually browse a site. Until now I have tried reordering the entries in /etc/nsswitch.conf ... my /etc/resolv.conf is updated with the VPN DNS entries, everytime I add open/google-dns into the resolve.conf, the other does not work. Als
[04:42] <abelur_> o disable dnsmasq option in networkmanage.conf
[04:42] <Legendre_> point is, I need a more precise tool to determine exactly what is dragging it all down.
[04:42] <Legendre_> the old stand-bys like top, free etc aren't giving me any leads.
[04:43] <ax562> http://pastebin.com/8zENKN4g
[04:43] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: How much RAM ya gots, and how much swap is setup on the system?
[04:43] <ax562> that is my microcode output
[04:43] <ax562> looks like march of this year
[04:43] <tatertots> 1
[04:44] <YankDownUnder> tatertots: PMSL :)
[04:44] <ax562> Bashing-om it is looks like
[04:44] <Bashing-om> ax562: So not that old of hardware " Version: 2.20160316.1 " .. so what is the date of the bios ?
[04:45] <ax562> 2007
[04:45] <Legendre_> one moment
[04:45] <ax562> believe 03/2007 but 2007 for sure
[04:45] <YankDownUnder> 2007! OMG! I was like what, 46 back then! Wow!
[04:46] <ax562> lmao
[04:46] <ax562> I told you it was old
[04:47] <ax562> my parents pc
[04:47] <YankDownUnder> ax562: My daughter is older than that machine! Does it have ossification happening on the shell/cover/keyboard or any type of encrustation that can be used for radiocarbon dating?
[04:48] <ax562> hahahaha
[04:48] <Legendre_> YankDownUnder: http://pastebin.com/s5T8M9js
[04:48] <ax562> no but the floppy drive needs replacement
[04:48] <aabbcc> hi everyone .. i have installed gns3 using commands in terminal of my ubuntu desktop ... i want to remove it ... anyone can help me?
[04:48] <ax562> :P
[04:48] <Legendre_> that's all of the mem/cpu stuff
[04:49] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: Just a quickie question - is it safe to assume you've done all the "third party driver" installations - yeah?
[04:49] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: you might cd into that dir and see what's in it before deleting it
[04:50] <Bashing-om> ax562: Any consolation .., I too run an old AMD box from 2007. So far .. so good .. 16.04 performs well on old spinning rust .
[04:50] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: maybe just move the dir first see if all goes well then just delete it
[04:50] <ax562> it actually ....don't hate me...performs better on windows 8.1 :p
[04:50] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: after move try reboot and run most apps you normaly run
[04:50] <ax562> but runs smooth on both os
[04:50] <Legendre_> YankDownUnder: well, perhaps.. about the only one would be a vid driver, I'd think..
[04:51] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, OK i will try it .. thanks'
[04:51] <tatertots> I've got an old AMD socket AM3 system too
[04:51] <ax562> if it wasn't for the horrible video card it would be pretty awesome
[04:51] <ax562> I prefer intel but amd gets the job done
[04:51] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: I'd not blame the vid driver yet...however, that being said, are you running Unity, Mate, Cinnamon, XFce, LxDE or KDE?
[04:51] <ax562> and amd was the first 64 bit cpu :p
[04:52] <Legendre_> YankDownUnder: it's Xubuntu, XFCE
[04:52] <tatertots> I built me a shinny new Skylake Z170 chipset system a few months back
[04:52] <ax562> skylake = intel?
[04:52] <orlock> ax562: nahh...
[04:53] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: Right oh - just was checking - because KDE, Unity, Mate and Cinnamon can be heavy on "eye candy" - and therefore, sluggish on that note...
[04:53] <Legendre_> sure
[04:53] <orlock> ax562: pretty sure that Cray/Sun/Digital (amongst others) were first
[04:54] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: Has it been suggested to look into tweaking the drive speed/reads using hdparm yet? (I don't do good at reading minds or thinking into the realm of yesterdays)
[04:54] <Legendre_> so I've run Xubuntu since Edgy, on various machines, and it's always been nice. In fact, the 14.X I had on here previous was fine, too.. it's just this 160.4 (?) that's being such a pill
[04:54] <tatertots> It was either build skylake now or wait until amd releases zen/AM4..and i couldn't wait
[04:54] <YankDownUnder> orlock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit_computing
[04:54] <orlock> YankDownUnder: yeah, already there. Cray in 1975
[04:55] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: well, for one, 16.04 is using "systemd" - which is  a bit of a difference, hmm...
[04:55] <Legendre_> YankDownUnder: no, I've not bothered with hdparm on this go.. nor on anything since I ran Slackare.
[04:55] <orlock> YankDownUnder: actually earlier, depending on definitions
[04:55] <orlock> 1961
[04:55] <orlock> damn
[04:57] <Legendre_> like I say, this setup is pretty much like every other xubuntu setup I've ever run, in terms of what's installed, etc.
[04:57] <ax562> well mass market pc I meant
[04:57] <ax562> but damb 1975 that is so long ago
[04:57] <Legendre_> so I have some reasonable stanards to compare with.
[04:57] <Grorco_> sorry it froze my machine
[04:57] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: Fair enough - so you're aware of hdparm - and have quite a good idea of things if you've come from the Slackware streams...but do you see where I'm going with this? I was going to suggest "tuning" the params for hdparm...but as well, something to look into is changing from systemd back to sysinit - does that make sense?
[04:57] <Legendre_> I was in kindergarten in 1975. =)
[04:57] <YankDownUnder> ax562: 1975 is NOT long ago. Ahem.
[04:58] <ax562> hahaha
[04:58] <ax562> sorry gramps :p
[04:58] <ax562> jkjk
[04:58] <Legendre_> YankDownUnder: sure enough. What does systemd cover? Is it for the /dev/ tree again?
[04:58] <YankDownUnder> ax562: I watched the first step onto the moon in 69 in my 1st grade class.
[04:59] <ax562> I was only a twinkle in my dads eye in 1975
[04:59] <ax562> cool
[04:59] <Grorco_> https://imagebin.ca/v/2oRheRy5lgh9
[04:59] <ax562> unfortunately I watched challenger blow up in my kindergarden class :(
[04:59] <Legendre_> thanks for the energy.
[05:00] <abelur_> anyone has a few mins to look into vpn / dns resolve issue ^^^^
[05:00] <ax562> 1986
[05:00] <Grorco_> That's what happens when I run the code, it was normal at first but I tried changing the textedit to listview and now it stays like that even after changing it back
[05:00] <tatertots> abelur what's the issue?
[05:01] <abelur_> Hi anyone on ubuntu 16.04 have issues with connected over vpnclient (cisco vpn) while using a vpn split tunnel .... basically dns resolve stops working when vpn is connected, everything, i need to disconnect from the vpn to actually browse a site. Until now I have tried reordering the entries in /etc/nsswitch.conf ... my /etc/resolv.conf is updated with the VPN DNS entries, everytime I add open/google-dns into the resolve.conf, the other does not work. Als
[05:01] <abelur_> o disable dnsmasq option in networkmanage.conf
[05:01] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: it's a means by which to intiate the processes/systems/jobs - there are two different "schools" - one being "systemd" the other being "sysinit"...sysinit being the older...either which, since 16.04 and the implementation of systemd, there are many issues - especially in upgrades from 15.10 and below...all pertaining to speed...SO...now that you know, there ya go. I know that there is a means by which to "change back" to
[05:01] <YankDownUnder> the "sysinit", but haven't tried it or suggested it before...especially wouldn't do so to a noob...
[05:01] <abelur_> tatertots, ^^
[05:01] <Legendre_> ah ok.. so does it totally replace init??
[05:01] <YankDownUnder> ax562: I was in Florida when that happened...watching the lift-off.
[05:01] <Legendre_> as in telinit etc?
[05:01] <Legendre_> is no longer cromulent/
[05:01] <Legendre_> ?
[05:02] <tatertots> resolv.conf get's rewritten by DHCP
[05:02] <ax562> as a kid I didn't really understand what was happening
[05:02] <sacarlson3> Grorco_: looks like it's working to me
[05:02] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: yes - replaces it...
[05:02]  * Legendre_ boggles
[05:02] <tatertots> so unless you took care of that adding stuff to resolv.conf isn't doing you any good
[05:02] <Legendre_> god but I'm old
[05:02] <ax562> I saw it blow up, then I'm thinking, wait, is that supposed to happen...
[05:02] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: I was kinda looking though some stuff about changing over the weekend...but didn't really get far, mainly because it was the weekend...
[05:03] <sacarlson3> Grorco_: and if it's a problem it might be the python app your running
[05:03] <Grorco_> sacarlson3, did you look at the picture? and it just crashed my machine :(
[05:03] <tatertots> when you're connected to vpn are you using the local 'route' or the remote 'route'?
[05:04] <sacarlson3> Grorco_: yes it's not crashed
[05:04] <Legendre_> YankDownUnder: oh look at that.. systemd with pid 1
[05:04] <abelur_> tatertots, I have two sets of DNS (1. used for vpn and 2. use for regualer browsing with opendns)
[05:04] <sacarlson3> Grorco_: did you try any other python apps?
[05:04] <Legendre_> but telinit is still installed... hm..
[05:04] <aabbcc> hi everyone .. i have installed gns3 using commands in terminal of my ubuntu desktop ... i want to remove it ... anyone can help me
[05:04] <abelur_> while one set is added into resolv.conf ... the sites dont work
[05:05] <Legendre_> what rl is shutdown? 6?
[05:05] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: did you move the dir?
[05:05] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: Rl is 0 for shutdown eh
[05:05] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: or do you now have any new info.  why do you repeat?
[05:06] <abelur_> I think am using the remote routes ...
[05:06] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, it says that it is not a directory
[05:06] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: any other question like do you know how to move files?
[05:06] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: what path is that?
[05:06] <abelur_> tatertots, is there a way, I could verify this ... as I remember add additional routes to my vpnclient config throught network manager
[05:06] <Grorco_> sacarlson3, I'm having trouble trying to run it outside of idle
[05:06] <Legendre_> lol
[05:06] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, /home/gns3
[05:06] <Legendre_> well, 6 is as well..
[05:07] <Bashing-om> Legendre_:  0 runlevel0.target, poweroff.target ; 6 runlevel6.target, reboot.target - emergency emergency.target .
[05:07] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: ls -l /home/gns3
[05:07] <Legendre_> the dang thing let me call telinit 6 from a vt, without sudo!
[05:07] <tatertots> connect the vpn and ping the remote route addy
[05:07] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: Runlevel 6 is reboot, 0 is shutdown - then there's the infamous "Runlevel Pi"...
[05:07] <tatertots> then ping your local route addy
[05:08] <Legendre_> why does it let me call telinit 6 without sudo?
[05:08] <tatertots> sounds like you're using the remote route
[05:08] <Legendre_> is that correct?
[05:08] <Legendre_> here, let me try telinit 0
[05:09] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, ok? what is next
[05:09] <sacarlson3> Grorco_: only this python app?  try another verify that your python system is working
[05:09] <abelur_> tatertots, yes - I can ping and the routes show up properly when on `route -n`
[05:09] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: THAT is truly a mystery...however, I've given up trying to "solve mysteries" and just stand back in the amazement of how things have gone "south" since Slackware 3.2 :)
[05:09] <tatertots> is the remote route supposed to provide internet connectivity or only grant you access to the network resources behind it?
[05:09] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: the next would be to return me the results
[05:10] <YankDownUnder> Legendre_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/779640/how-to-remove-systemd-from-ubuntu-16-04-and-prevent-its-usage
[05:10] <Legendre_> sure as shite, telinit 0 works just the same.. no sudo.
[05:10] <Grorco_> sacarlson3, only this app and only if the textedit is there if I comment it out or add another one after it, it works fine
[05:10] <tatertots> if it's supposed to only grant you access to network resources behind it, then it's functioning as designed and you should set your local route which does have internet connectivity
[05:10] <snfgf> What's the name of a device file for a phone I've connected by USB?
[05:11] <Legendre_> possible more than one dev.. like /dev/micN or /dev/dspN etc?
[05:11] <sacarlson3> Grorco_: I'm not sure but I assume your problem is in the python software.  might ask the writer of it to look at it your find another solution
[05:12] <abelur_> tatertots, ok it makes sense now ... then this has nothing to do with the dns resolve when connecting over vpn ?
[05:12] <Legendre_> just saying it may not have a single, dedicated dev to do duplex on phone
[05:12] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, the result is " Desktop Documents Downloads examples.desktop Music Pictures Public Templates videos"
[05:12] <snfgf> Legendre, none by those names
[05:12] <Legendre_> snfgf: no /dev/dsp*
[05:12] <Legendre_> ?
[05:12] <snfgf> nope
[05:12] <Legendre_> /dev/audio*
[05:12] <snfgf> nope
[05:12] <Legendre_> what does dmesg say?
[05:12] <tatertots> you simply need to pick a default route
[05:13] <Legendre_> does it enumerate the devs?
[05:13] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: and that's what is inside this path?
[05:13] <snfgf> Yes. 'new high-speed device number 2'
[05:13] <tatertots> can you access network resources behind the vpn?
[05:13] <snfgf> then Product, Manufacturer, SerialNumber
[05:13] <abelur_> yes
[05:13] <snfgf> but no mention of a device file
[05:14] <Grorco_> sacarlson3, Thanks hopefully I'll figure it out
[05:14] <Legendre_> snfgf: does it give it an address? Please paste the dmesg output to pastebin etc
[05:14] <abelur_> tatertots, yes ... i can ssh into the servers i need
[05:14] <aabbcc> sacarlson3و غثس
[05:14] <tatertots> sounds like you're using the remote route as the default route instead of the local route that connects you to the (W)orld(W)ide(W)eb
[05:14] <aabbcc> sacarlson3و yes
[05:14] <Legendre_> snfgf: if it doesn['t have the correct driver (do you need to load a module?) it will not assign a port / address
[05:15] <Legendre_> and then there's no /dev/ file abstracted to it..
[05:15] <snfgf> usb 3-1?, I can't see an address, it shows up on 'lsusb' as Bus 3 Device 003
[05:16] <tatertots> the remote route it only going to get you network access to the vpn server and the network resources behind it, you probably want to use the local route if you want internet
[05:16] <abelur_> tatertots, it makes perfect sense, but not an nw expert
[05:16] <abelur_> how to add local route as default route
[05:17] <Legendre_> snfgf: do you know which module it uses?
[05:17] <Legendre_> snfgf: sorry, this is all very generic advice, obviously.
[05:17] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: maybe ls -ld /home/gns3  ; but it sounds like the file no longer exists
[05:17] <Legendre_> if you know the module, run modinfo (mod name) and see if it tells you anything
[05:17] <snfgf> Legendre, I don't. I just thought I could plug it in then access the filesystem. How do I find out the module?
[05:18] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: you do know how to remove file?   man rm
[05:18] <Legendre_> snfgf: watch which modules (if any) load when you plug it in? =)
[05:18] <Legendre_> sorry..
[05:18] <YankDownUnder> See y'all laterz.
[05:18] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: or move file man mv
[05:18] <Legendre_> later YankDownUnder
[05:18] <snfgf> xhci_hcd?
[05:19] <tatertots> does your vpn server allow you to set manual ip settings or are they automatically set for you?....it sounds like you're been adding routes for it ...so i probably answered my own question just now lol
[05:19] <Legendre_> snfgf: more to the point, what driver does it need?
[05:19] <Legendre_> look it up.. do you have it?
[05:19] <Legendre_> bbl
[05:19] <abelur_> tatertots, lol ...
[05:19] <snfgf> it says, 'new high-speed USB device number 8 using xhci_hcd'
[05:19] <ax562> later YankDownUnder
[05:19] <snfgf> so I guess so
[05:20] <abelur_> tatertots, adding the routes so that I can use a split tunnel ... and avoid redirect all traffic thru the vpn
[05:20] <snfgf> maybe I need to mount /dev/bus/003/008?
[05:21] <tatertots> does the route you are manually setting by your own hand provide internet access? can you confirm this?
[05:21] <sacarlson3> snfgf: my guess is your phone is using the mk china chip set
[05:22] <snfgf> what are the implications?
[05:22] <sacarlson3> snfgf: I have the same and still can't get it to mount as usb drive
[05:22] <snfgf> it is a nokia lumia
[05:22] <Legendre_> why would a telephone mount as a USB 'drive', as in, storage?
[05:23] <tatertots> if so are you using the correct routes and have made sure there is not a typographical error when manually setting your route
[05:23] <sacarlson3> snfgf: no it's uses Qualcomm MSM8974 Snapdragon 800
[05:23] <Legendre_> you don't generally mount audio devices.. you read/write to their /dev/ nodes
[05:23] <abelur_> tatertots, some of the web site work ... like google
[05:24] <abelur_> but some of the websites external website dont work
[05:24] <tatertots> you're sure you're getting fresh info from the web servers on the working web sites and not seeing a cached web page that was cached when you were disconnected from vpn?
[05:25] <sacarlson3> snfgf: I don't see any problem with that phone mounting as a drive.  sometimes phones require to be set as usb mountable
[05:25] <tatertots> when you say some websites work...are you actually running traceroute or nslookup or are you just going by what you seee in a web browser?
[05:25] <tatertots> i've answered my own question again
[05:26] <abelur_> from the web broswer
[05:26] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, sorry didnt understand how to remove it
[05:26] <tatertots> what you see in a browser could be cached
[05:26] <sacarlson3> snfgf: might be a small chance it has a dual mode problem where it tries to setup the phone as a data modem and fails.  this can be fixed with config settings
[05:26] <Legendre_> snfgf: in the old days, your audio out was /dev/dsp.. it accepted raw pcm audio at 44.1/16
[05:26] <tatertots> misleading you to think some websites are working
[05:26] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: you don't even return results to tell me it exists or not
[05:26] <Legendre_> so you <could just cat file.pcm > /dev/dsp and it would play your tune or whatever
[05:26] <abelur_> I the following err: This site can’t be reached
[05:26] <abelur_> Try:
[05:26] <abelur_> Reloading the page
[05:26] <abelur_> Checking the connection
[05:26] <abelur_> Checking the proxy and the firewall
[05:27] <tatertots> when you actually have no internet at all of any sorts when connected to vpn
[05:27] <abelur_> tatertots, ^^
[05:27] <Legendre_> or cat /dev/mic > file.dsp and have a dsp recording of the mic
[05:28] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, gns3 exists yes .. sorry but i am not understanding what you want me to do
[05:28] <Legendre_> and in my exp, audio devices - USB or otherwise - enumerate as audio devices.. files, like /dev/dsp etc.
[05:28] <tatertots> you got that error when you attempted to go to one of the website that you thought were working?
[05:28] <sacarlson3> aabbcc:  do you know how to use the filemanager?  try deleting it
[05:28] <abelur_> works without the vpn ...
[05:29] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, no
[05:29] <abelur_> tatertots,  that website works without the vpn connected
[05:29] <tatertots> use traceroute
[05:29] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: what do you know how to do?  maybe become a cook?
[05:29] <tatertots> I'm not going to pry into your privacy and ask what website this is ...but run traceroute against it
[05:30] <tatertots> run traceroute agaisnt it while connected to vpn
[05:30] <tatertots> my typing today is horrid
[05:31] <tatertots> are you familiar with running traceroute and working with the results?
[05:31] <abelur_> tatertots, yes a little bit.
[05:31] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, why are you saying that? .. i am just a beginner
[05:32] <abelur_> this resolves to an internal ip which is only accessable through vpn
[05:32] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: are you running out of disk space?  why do you so need to delete these files?
[05:32] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: they won't harm anything
[05:33] <tatertots> now run trace route again without the vpn connected and look at the results
[05:34] <tatertots> you that route makes a round trip on your local route but your remote route is the point of failure
[05:34] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, gns3 is a network simulator & it has some problems that it is not running correctly .. i want to delete every thing and reinstall it from scratch
[05:34] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: learn the basic functions of a computer including the browser,  learn some basic features including the filemanager,  learn english or find a source of info in your first language
[05:35] <abelur_> while connected it just gives me a single line
[05:35] <abelur_> when not connected there are several hops
[05:35] <abelur_> tatertots, ^^
[05:35] <tatertots> without prying into your personal business I'll assume you're running traceroute against google.com as you used in your example
[05:36] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: or then force remove the file with rm command  sudo rm -rf /home/gns3
[05:36] <sacarlson3> aabbcc: if that don't work then the files don't exist
[05:37] <tatertots> if you traceroute google.com connected to vpn and it goes as far as a internal ip only accessible by vpn..you found your point of failure
[05:37] <abelur_> tatertots, not really ... the domain/service which I need access to
[05:39] <gholguin> hi
[05:40] <tatertots> you need to traceroute something that would be available on both ends for troubleshooting...tracerouting something you can ONLY access with this VPN for troubleshooting no internet issue isn't the methodology
[05:40] <tatertots> that's why i used google.com in my example
[05:41] <tatertots> traceroute google.com while connected vpn
[05:41] <abelur_> the site I am connecting to is an accessable without vpn, but does not work when connected to vpn ... let me check google like you mentioned
[05:43] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, Every thing is deleted in /home
[05:43] <sacarlson1> aabbcc: very good
[05:44] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, no, i wanted just gns3 to be deleted
[05:44] <sacarlson1> aabbcc: yes that is what that command should have done
[05:45] <sacarlson1> aabbcc: what do you now feel is not deleted or too much deleted?
[05:45] <tatertots> if the traceroute stops short a hop or more of getting google.com to you when connected to vpn the route you have manually chosen is the point of failure
[05:45] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, too much deleted
[05:46] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, everything is deleted .. not only gns3
[05:46] <sacarlson1> aabbcc: and why is that?
[05:46] <abelur_> tatertots, both work for google tr ... except that when connected the last hop goes through my vpn
[05:46] <orlock> Some VPN's try to disable split tunneling
[05:46] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, i dont know
[05:46] <orlock> abelur_: do you manage the VPN, or is it IT provided? or is this one of those personal "location hiding" systems/
[05:46] <sacarlson1> aabbcc: what do you mean by everything?  are you on it now chating with me?
[05:46] <abelur_> orlock, its IT provided
[05:47] <orlock> abelur_: Often they will (try) to force you to route all traffic via them when connected
[05:47] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, i am not on it , i am chating you from another machine
[05:47] <notyetelite> my archive manager is not working.i am using ubuntu 32 bit op no matter what i do it wont work
[05:47] <orlock> to prevent you being used as a jump point for nefarious deeds
[05:48] <sacarlson1> aabbcc: ok so what can it do or not do now?
[05:48] <abelur_> orlock, they are not forceing ... thatz way the additional ipv4 routes are added
[05:49] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, i dont know .. everything is deleted :(
[05:49] <sacarlson1> aabbcc: well good problem solved
[05:49] <sacarlson1> aabbcc: reinstall a new system if needed
[05:50] <sacarlson1> aabbcc: would have taken much less time.  also think about setting up virtualbox with a fresh system
[05:50] <tatertots> so google.com makes it back to you when you traceroute it when connected to vpn? yes/no?
[05:51] <sacarlson1> aabbcc: always backup your work
[05:51] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, غثس
[05:51] <aabbcc> sacarlson3, yes
[05:52] <abelur_> tatertots, yes very much
[05:52] <tatertots> since the VPN server side of the network is IT managed you may want to contact them...they may be having an outage of some sort....it happens
[05:52] <tatertots> outages happen
[05:53] <notyetelite> can someone help my friend blade420 with his "my archive manager is not working.i am using ubuntu 32 bit op no matter what i do it wont work"
[05:53] <abelur_> ah not really, just confirmed it
[05:53] <abelur_> tatertots, ^
[05:54] <abelur_> tatertots, will adding a default route work solve this ?
[05:54] <sacarlson1> notyetelite: does it not work on any archived file or just one?  what app might he be running to archive?   what type of archive file format? ....
[05:55] <sacarlson1> notyetelite: much too little detail
[05:55] <notyetelite> he will be joining in in amin
[05:55] <tatertots> if you use the route that takes you were you want to go..yes
[05:56] <blade420> none works
[05:56] <blade420> how do i get that info
[05:57] <abelur_> tatertots, thanks a lot ... let me work with the IT and see if I can get it resolved, before that will try to add default route and check
[05:57] <abelur_> tatertots++
[05:57] <orlock> abelur_: What client are you using?
[05:58] <abelur_> orlock, networkmanager / vpnclient / cisco vpn
[05:58] <orlock> abelur_: there's also openconnect
[05:58] <orlock> depends on if they are using the old style or new style client
[05:59] <orlock> "Cisco VPN Client" vs "ANyConnect"
[05:59] <orlock> i found that openconnect worked fine for me when i was troubleshooting some vpn issues
[05:59] <orlock> the Cisco(tm) VPN client will try to enforce the routes configured from the VPN host
[06:00] <al_nz1> Evening all
[06:00] <abelur_> orlock, what pkg should i install to try with anyconnect
[06:00] <orlock> abelur_: openconnect i think it's called
[06:01] <orlock> and then just run openconnect from the terminal
[06:01] <al_nz1> I had a samba share setup without issue - then I plugged in a external disk and added another share to the smb.conf with guest ok = yes - but when I try to access that I get a permissions error - anyone know why?
[06:01] <orlock> al_nz1: reload samba?
[06:01] <al_nz1> orlock: did that
[06:01] <al_nz1> I can post the conf
[06:02] <abelur_> orlock, what I am using is cisco compatible vpn client (vpnc)
[06:02] <sacarlson1> al_nz1: did you try just use the filemanger to right click on the dir to share over samba?  it used to work
[06:03] <blade420> privmsg sacarlson1 hey
[06:03] <al_nz1> http://pastebin.com/hGx53W1W
[06:03] <al_nz1> sacarlson1: I like to understand at a deeper level what I am doing
[06:04] <al_nz1> in the paste share 1 is fine
[06:04] <al_nz1> share 2 isnt
[06:07] <tatertots> no prob hope you get connected
[06:08] <orlock> abelur_: what client do you use under windows?
[06:14] <tatertots> 1
[06:43] <ax562> cricket...cricket
[06:48] <nils_> chirp chirp
[06:53] <ax562> is mr robot on lol
[06:54] <orlock> Not for another few days i think?
[06:56] <ax562> yeah wed. i was jk
[06:56] <ax562> never seen it this quiet in here...EVER
[06:56] <ax562> #mrrobot
[07:16] <al_nz1> this gets more puzzling. Now I can authenticate but any attempt to browse below the root share just ends up in windows "thinking" about it
[07:23] <Triffid_Hunter> al_nz1: keep in mind that samba often uses 'nobody' user to access files, which may not have permission to access your external drive
[07:23] <Triffid_Hunter> al_nz1: also, getting stuck when accessing external disks often means your usb dropped out for a moment and left a dangling mount.. linux kernel apparently isn't smart enough to recognise that the same disk came back and it can resume the mount just yet
[07:24] <al_nz1> Triffid_Hunter: actually your right it could be a USB problem
[07:24] <al_nz1> the external disk is borked and I am getting files off it as fast as I can
[07:25] <Triffid_Hunter> al_nz1: in that case I'd suggest grabbing a partition image, then getting the files out of that afterwards.. assuming you have enough contiguous free space somewhere that is
[07:31] <Tomm43>  salut les amis !.
[07:31] <Tomm43>  salut les amis !.\r
[07:34] <Pierro> salut
[07:34] <Pierro> bien ?
[07:43] <leeyaa> hi
[07:43] <leeyaa> during upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 i see this in the log https://bpaste.net/show/1905ec6d4f2c
[07:43] <leeyaa> what causes it ?
[07:45] <Pierro> salut
[07:45] <sacarlson1> leeyaa: well as you telling us it seems upgrage caused it
[07:45] <sacarlson1> the next question to ask is how to fix it
[07:46] <leeyaa> yeah was going to ask taht
[07:46] <leeyaa> that*
[07:46] <sacarlson1> leeyaa: after reboot does it still happen and does it boot at all?
[07:46] <leeyaa> sacarlson1: servers boot fine. i upgraded 10 already
[07:47] <sacarlson1> so it's like a function that is no longer needed ?
[07:47] <sacarlson1> everything works otherwise?
[07:48] <leeyaa> at first glance yeah everything works
[07:48] <leeyaa> it is probably nothing bad, but wanted to know how to fix it
[07:51] <sacarlson1> leeyaa: seems runlevel has been changed to targets in 16.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/788323/change-runlevel-on-16-04
[07:51] <sacarlson1> upgrade may have left legacy stuf behind that still looks at runlevel
[07:52] <leeyaa> yeah thats what i thought too
[07:52] <leeyaa>  should ignore it or report a bug ?
[07:53] <sacarlson1> might try a fresh install and verify that this error is still seen or not seen like in a virtualbox install.
[07:53] <leeyaa> i havent seen it on fresh install
[07:53] <sacarlson1> that's what I figured.
[07:54] <sacarlson1> it's your call if you want to put in a bug report can't hurt.  but at this point I don't see it doing any real harm.  just more noise in logs
[07:55] <leeyaa> not worth the time i guess
[07:55] <leeyaa> thanks sacarlson1
[07:56] <sacarlson1> np
[08:00] <TheMarius> so much happening now on linux with games etc, when is amd out with theyre new drivers?
[08:03] <leeyaa> sacarlson1: hm found one more
[08:05] <leeyaa> waiting for bug report to be processed
[08:06] <sacarlson1> leeyaa: one more what?
[08:06] <iShitMyPants> Hello
[08:07] <iShitMyPants> * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[08:07] <GoMeatal> hello
[08:08] <GoMeatal> hello hello hello is there anybody :D
[08:08] <iShitMyPants> GoMeatal: No
[08:08] <iShitMyPants> nobody is here
[08:08] <iShitMyPants> maybe they are, I will check
[08:09] <iShitMyPants> Drone`,  [diablo],  [n0mad],  \9,  ^5,  ^`,  ^peter^,  _28_ria,  _KaszpiR__,  _ruben,  _S4MUR4I_,  _smh_,  _Trullo,  _unreal_,  `Cam,  `z,  `Zephyr,  a1,  A124,  aaran,  Aayush,  AbigailBuccaneer,  abra0,  AbyssOne,  acalewin,  AciD`,  Acn0w,  acrocity,  ac|work,  Ad1_RN,  adac,  Adam_FrVancouver,  adante,  addo,  adeschamps,  Adie,  Adran,  adreno,  aegis,  Afforess,  afidegnum,  Afrotoast,  Agent,  AgentClank,  agopo,  ahnooie,  AJ_Z0,  akaWolf,  
[08:09] <sacarlson1> normaly we wait till we see something worth answering.  just ask your question
[08:09] <sacarlson1> otherwise I will continue watching the simpsons
[08:11] <iShitMyPants> sacarlson1: my question is
[08:11] <GoMeatal> anyone from nepal guys
[08:11] <iShitMyPants> Why is Ubuntu gay and debian not gay?
[08:11] <GoMeatal> hahaha
[08:11] <creeep> Weak wifi signal though sitting right next to the device on ubuntu 16.04.here is the terminal stuff http://paste.ubuntu.com/19875310/
[08:12] <iShitMyPants> what happened?
[08:12] <iShitMyPants> my connection fucked ofd
[08:12] <iShitMyPants> *off
[08:12]  * [diablo] detects a ban coming
[08:12] <zytr0n> iShitMyPants: you got booted, moron
[08:12] <iShitMyPants> zytr0n: no
[08:12] <iShitMyPants> it was not just one channel
[08:12] <iShitMyPants> my entire client freaked out
[08:13] <sacarlson1> creeep: does it have better signal with some other system software running?
[08:13] <iShitMyPants> sacarlson1: farts
[08:13] <iShitMyPants> farts
[08:13] <sacarlson1> creeep: like windows or older ubuntu linux
[08:14] <iShitMyPants> Sigyn: FUCK
[08:14] <jancoow> Hi there. I was upgrading my ubuntu 14.04 to the newest verson, xenional. In this upgrade proces, the installation got stuck on Preparing to unpack .../cgroup-lite_1.11_all.deb ...
[08:14] <iShitMyPants> Sigyn: FUCK
[08:14] <iShitMyPants> Sigyn: FUCK
[08:14] <iShitMyPants> Sigyn: FUCK
[08:14] <iShitMyPants> Sigyn: FUCK
[08:14] <creeep> sacarlson1, This is a new laptop and a fresh install
[08:14] <creeep> sacarlson1, never tried anything else
[08:14] <sacarlson1> do you have any old iso files to try?
[08:14] <jancoow> what problems can i expect now..
[08:14] <jancoow> because i think the upgrade isn't tottally done
[08:14] <sacarlson1> to try boot from flash drive
[08:14] <iShitMyPants> it happened again
[08:15] <sacarlson1> creeep: sounds more likely to be a hardware issue
[08:15] <creeep> sacarlson1, i just tried a kali live ...but it was really really slow
[08:16] <creeep> sacarlson1, live booting was really slow to load
[08:16] <iShitMyPants> !ops AntiSpamMeta is a homosexual
[08:16] <GoMeatal> ubuntu is gay coz it hit on multiprogramming n good for all processes,,, so being good for all ubuntu have to face the problem of gay :D
[08:16] <sacarlson1> well slow so it takes 5 min?  got eat an icecream or something and come back
[08:16] <creeep> sacarlson1, does wlan0 and wlp19s0 make any diff?
[08:17] <sacarlson1> creeep: I'm not sure maybe one is encrypted and the other not
[08:17] <creeep> sacarlson1, ice cream will finish off.LoL
[08:17] <jancoow> someone? :"(
[08:17] <GoMeatal> ok guys take care ... new here so get board .... see u late guys
[08:18] <jancoow> i had to kill the proces, it was stuck over 10 hours
[08:18] <jancoow> and now when i try to upgrade https://jancokock.me/f/08d01
[08:18] <leeyaa> sacarlson1: this is what happened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libapache2-mod-rpaf/+bug/1603889
[08:18] <leeyaa> ;p
[08:18] <jancoow> woops wrong
[08:18] <jancoow> https://jancokock.me/f/757f9
[08:18] <sacarlson1> jancoow: that sucks, hope you made a backup
[08:18] <jancoow> sacarlson1: nope didnt
[08:19] <jancoow> i'm really mad right now
[08:19] <jancoow> really mad.
[08:19] <GoMeatal> hhahahha its true but some how dependable in Hardware configuration too coz my laptop has ubuntu based configuration
[08:19] <sacarlson1> jancoow: I never upgrade.  I normaly just save a partition to install the next system on and start to test that and keep the old in the event of problems with the new fresh system
[08:19] <geirha> check if dpkg is still running
[08:19] <jancoow> the reason why i upgraded? Because there is a major bug in bash in 14.04. It took me hours to firgure out why my bash script wasn't working
[08:20] <jancoow> and it ONLY happend on ubuntu 14.04
[08:20] <jancoow> tested in multiple arch systems, elementary os, kodi machines, raspberry pi's, it worked EVERYWHERE
[08:20] <jancoow> except on ubuntu 14.04 because of a nasty bug.....
[08:20] <sacarlson1> jancoow: never had any problems with bash on 14.04 maybe you were running the other script interpriter that is default
[08:20] <geirha> It might have been a bug with trusty's bash. Never really confirmed it
[08:20] <jancoow> sacarlson1: well it's working now after a half-upgrade
[08:21] <sacarlson1> dash I think
[08:21] <Triffid_Hunter> I've got problems with bash in ubuntu, tab completion doesn't work half the time
[08:21] <leeyaa> never had issues on 14.04 either
[08:21] <geirha> jancoow: anyway, are there currently any dpkg or apt processes running?   ps -ef | grep -e dpkg -e apt
[08:22] <jancoow> declare -A 'assoc_array=([uptime]="44728.99" [distributor]="Arch" [boottime]="1468750320" [description]="Arch Linux" [release]="rolling" [codename]="n/a" )' DOESNT work, however declare -A assoc_array=([uptime]="44728.99" [distributor]="Arch" [boottime]="1468750320" [description]="Arch Linux" [release]="rolling" [codename]="n/a" ) does work..
[08:22] <jancoow> for some reason a declare -A with ' ' doesnt work on trusty bash -.-"
[08:22] <jancoow> geirha: i had to kill it
[08:22] <jancoow> it was stuk over 10 hours
[08:22] <jancoow> stuck*
[08:23] <geirha> so no, I take it? how did you kill it? kill -9?
[08:23] <jancoow> okay well.. there are still some processes
[08:23] <jancoow> i only killed the upgrade script i think
[08:24] <jancoow> damn i'm in a hurry. Will be back in a hour
[08:24] <sacarlson1> Triffid_Hunter: I wouldn't mind seeing an example of one of these bash files that you say don't work
[08:24] <leeyaa> sigh and i hit another one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/1094247
[08:24] <leeyaa> -.-
[08:24] <leeyaa> common why upgrading ubuntu is always such a pain
[08:26] <sacarlson1> leeyaa: and why I always install LTS and only upgrade when needed
[08:26] <leeyaa> sacarlson1: its from lts to lts although the point release is not ready yet
[08:27] <sacarlson1> leeyaa: and don't jump on it when it first comes out, let suckers like you find the bugs first
[08:27] <leeyaa> hey thats not nice ;p
[08:27] <sacarlson1> leeyaa: sorry just kidding
[08:27] <leeyaa> btw im absolutely sure the bugs i found will exist in the final release
[08:28] <sacarlson1> leeyaa: well go confirm it so that don't happen
[08:29] <sacarlson1> and most bugs like that are upgrade bugs, there is almost no way to make a bugless upgrade.  there are too many combinations of software to test for that
[08:29] <aroodaboss> Hi
[08:33] <leeyaa> sacarlson1: actually its possible. just not with this distro
[08:33] <leeyaa> although upgrades from 12.04 to 14.04 went fine
[08:34] <Triffid_Hunter> sacarlson1: you mean jancoow I think
[08:34] <Triffid_Hunter> sacarlson1: I just have broken tab completion :/
[08:34] <sacarlson1> leeyaa: maybe not being we have so many more apps than others
[08:34] <der_ubermensch95> bff..
[08:34] <der_ubermensch95> brb
[08:35] <sacarlson1> Triffid_Hunter: I'm not sure what broken tab completion is
[08:35] <Triffid_Hunter> sacarlson1: ls path/to/file tab completes just fine, but make path/to/file won't tab complete, I have to type it out manually
[08:36] <Bear__> Does anyone here kno whow to use UFW?
[08:36] <Bear__> :p
[08:36] <sacarlson1> Triffid_Hunter: oh gotcha
[08:37] <sacarlson1> Triffid_Hunter: funny works for me on 14.04
[08:37] <zytr0n> Bear__: what do you want to do with it
[08:37] <piudipai> I don't hear any sound
[08:37] <Bear__> zytr0n, prevent portscanning
[08:37] <Bear__> I want to lock down my vps.
[08:37] <der_ubermensch95> why
[08:37] <Bear__> why what?
[08:38] <der_ubermensch95> why lock down your vpn
[08:38] <Bear__> vps...
[08:38] <Triffid_Hunter> sacarlson1: works fine for me in gentoo, debian jessie, but not ubuntu 14.04
[08:38] <Bear__> As for a VPN, security.
[08:38] <Bear__> same idea
[08:38] <der_ubermensch95> k
[08:38] <geirha> Triffid_Hunter: With bash-completion enabled, it will try to read the makefile and complete targets instead of filenames
[08:38] <sacarlson1> Triffid_Hunter: might be an env thing since mine is working ok but then I run mint
[08:39] <Triffid_Hunter> Bear__: simplest network lockdown for linux is iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -m state ! --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j DROP - but make sure you have some way to log in because that'll drop any and all packets that the system didn't itself ask for..
[08:39] <geirha> in earlier versions it also had a bug where it actually executed the makefile while parsing it. Hopefully that is fixed by now
[08:39] <Triffid_Hunter> geirha: well how do I either turn off bash completion, or make the thing that handles makefiles non-stupid?
[08:39] <Bear__> Triffid_Hunter, if I specify some open ports before I run that command will I be ok?
[08:39] <geirha> to turn off bash-completion temporarily, in the current terminal, run complete -r
[08:40] <geirha> that gives you the default programmable completion, which should complete filenames
[08:40] <Triffid_Hunter> Bear__: if you allow them through in nat prerouting before that, it'll be ok. also note that existing connections shouldn't be affected, so make sure you can ssh in before you exit your current ssh session
[08:40] <Triffid_Hunter> geirha: I'll try that next time I'm wrestling with ubuntu
[08:41] <geirha> to disable bash_completion permanently, you need root access
[08:41] <Bear__> ty Triffid_Hunter
[08:41] <Bear__> A chinese botnet keeps trying to break into my VPS
[08:41] <Bear__> Luckily I have SSH keys ;P
[08:41] <Triffid_Hunter> Bear__: please read some docs first though, it's really trivial to lock yourself out of your VPS
[08:41] <Triffid_Hunter> Bear__: see fail2ban and similar, may be helpful. also, don't run ssh on default port :P
[08:41] <sacarlson1> Bear__: also change the default ssh to from 22 to other
[08:42] <Bear__> I had it changed but I reverted it.
[08:42] <creeep> does anyone think noobslab website is good for learning?
[08:42] <Triffid_Hunter> the ssh on my vps is on a port >24k
[08:42] <Bear__> I'm going to change it again or use knockd
[08:43] <sacarlson1> Bear__: I would see my logs with lots of china knocks on my default port 22 but after change never see them again
[08:44] <Bear__> sacarlson1, it's really annoying :/
[08:44] <sacarlson1> it's just log noise
[08:44] <Bear__> the worst part is part of these attacks are government sponsored.
[08:44] <Bear__> Especially when hunting Tor nodes
[08:45] <theyesman> Bear__: i block by country.
[08:45] <Bear__> theyesman, it's sad that I have to do that as well
[08:45] <Bear__> Cuba, Russia, China, Poland.
[08:46] <edgardoanaya> How can I Make Sound Work on UBUNTU!!!
[08:46] <Bear__> edgardoanaya, what's the issue?
[08:46] <edgardoanaya> Everytime I install UBUNTU I Cant get any Sound
[08:46] <theyesman> persistent connection attemps i manually block the ip with iptables.
[08:47] <Bear__> theyesman, I run gameservers that are public from time to time and used to do all the time
[08:47] <Bear__> edgardoanaya, open a terminal and type this: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[08:47] <Bear__> and restart anything outputing audio
[08:48] <edgardoanaya> thank you
[08:48] <Bear__> worked?
[08:48] <edgardoanaya> Thanks Bear!!!
[08:48] <Bear__> theyesman, like I said I block Cuba, Russia, China, Poland because they produce nothing but garbage traffic and cheaters.
[08:50] <zytr0n> Bear__: discriminating by country isn't fair, I'm in China and we're already oppressed enough when it comes to internet freedoms
[08:51] <Triffid_Hunter> heh I'm in china too, internet here is horrid
[08:51] <edgardoanaya> Yes Bear I Appreciate ur Help This was always a Problem 4 Me!!!
[08:51] <Bear__> zytr0n, when 99% of your countrie's traffic is garbage and 1% is good I'm not wasting my time for the 1%
[08:51] <Bear__> Nothing personal.
[08:51] <zytr0n> Triffid_Hunter: you on vpn?
[08:52] <edgardoanaya> Bear U R a Tech Guru!!! My Friend
[08:52] <Triffid_Hunter> zytr0n: when I need it.. even without one I'm lucky to get 20k/sec to unblocked sites
[08:53] <Triffid_Hunter> I literally had faster internet in Australia last millenia than I do now in china's silicon valley
[08:53] <zytr0n> Triffid_Hunter: it's disgusting isn't it
[08:53] <sacarlson1> wow you have to manually install pulseaudio?  why won't it install when the system is installed?
[08:53] <Bear__> Triffid_Hunter, How's the grat firewall?
[08:54] <zytr0n> Triffid_Hunter: i know this is a support channel but are you originally from aus?
[08:55] <Triffid_Hunter> zytr0n: yes
[08:55] <zytr0n> Triffid_Hunter: awesome, me too :-)
[08:55] <edgardoanaya> Everyone Have a Good Night!!!! Sleepy Now
[08:55] <Triffid_Hunter> Bear__: terrible, keep an eye on how many random sites use google's cached jquery and suchforth for some idea of what doesn't work here
[08:56] <edgardoanaya> Bear u R The Best!!!!
[09:04] <Bear__> And I locked myself out of ssh.
[09:04] <Bear__> crap.
[09:04] <Bear__> I changed the port and forgot to add the new rule to the firewall..
[09:05] <sacarlson1> Bear__: oh that sucks
[09:05] <Bear__> I can fix it
[09:05]  * Bear__ quickly hits the re-install button
[09:05] <Bear__> Nothing I can't fix!
[09:06] <sacarlson1> if it's on digitalocean it's not a problem just a click a way to having it back
[09:07] <sacarlson1> oh they also have a direct term in digitalocean that bypasses ethernet
[09:07] <Bear__> sacarlson1, ovh
[09:07] <Bear__> Not a fan of digital ocean
[09:08] <sacarlson1> to each his own
[09:08] <Bear__> it's the data caps.
[09:08] <sacarlson1> well my sites suck so I don't have that problem
[09:09] <Bear__> lol
[09:09] <Bear__> We use mumble
[09:11] <gntheprogrammer> Hi
[09:14] <soee> how can i show all folders sizes calculated including all  the content they have ?
[09:15] <sacarlson1> soee: how could you posibly format all the contents all all the files?
[09:15] <Bear__> So
[09:15] <Bear__> I'm in rescue mode
[09:15] <Bear__> but my drive isn't mounted...?
[09:15] <k1l_> soee: on terminal? use "du" on gui use baobab
[09:16] <soee> sacarlson1: i think what i was looking for is du -hs dir
[09:16] <sacarlson1> soee: oh maybe the filemanager I thought you wanted to see the contents of the files
[09:16] <sacarlson1> soee: oh and from the command line
[09:26] <candy_> hi
[09:26] <candy_> all friend
[09:26] <zamanf> hi
[09:27] <candy_> hi zaman f
[09:27] <candy_> how are u ?
[09:27] <zamanf> fine
[09:27] <zamanf> you?
[09:28] <candy_> am fine thank !
[09:28] <zamanf> :)
[09:29] <candy_> it is the first time i use this software
[09:30] <Bear__> someone shoot me.
[09:30] <Bear__> I can't login as root.
[09:30] <Bear__> It didn't sync my changes in rescue mode.
[09:31] <Bear__> shoot me.
[09:31] <Bear__> I'm locked out of root.
[09:32] <Bear__> PLEASE SHOOT ME.
[09:32] <sacarlson1> BANG
[09:32] <Bear__> The default font in windows doesn't show the difference between i and l in chrome.
[09:33] <sacarlson1> Bear__: vps I assume?
[09:34] <Bear__> yep
[09:34] <Bear__> didn't snapshot it.
[09:34] <candy_> Bear__: hi sir
[09:34] <sacarlson1> Bear__: don't all vps still have a direct term?  you can get to preboot and fix like any other system you get locked out of in that case
[09:34] <Bear__> wait!
[09:35] <Bear__> I might be lucky.
[09:35] <creeep> !ops
[09:36] <Bear__> creep what are you doing.
[09:36] <Bear__> creeep
[09:36] <\9> he left
[09:36] <k1l_> he is gone. dont mind the trolls
[09:36] <Bear__> HOLY
[09:36] <Bear__> YES
[09:37] <Bear__> YES
[09:37] <candy_> hi all i am a new member
[09:37] <Bear__> i WAS READING THE WRONG EMAIL FROM OVH!
[09:40] <gntheprogrammer> Hi
[09:40] <Bear__> So my VPS is safe.
[09:41] <Bear__> Port 22 is shut, my SSH port is moved, UFW is setup correctly.
[09:41] <Bear__> Ty to everyone who helped. :)
[09:50] <creeep> what does ! ops do and when to invoke it?
[09:50] <k1l_> creeep: it calles the moderators to look at the channel. dont use that if there is no emergency
[09:50] <k1l_> *calls
[09:51] <sacarlson1> creeep: it is used to call the admin mods to fix problems
[09:51] <creeep> what are emergencies?
[09:51] <creeep> like what sort of emergency?
[09:52] <sacarlson1> creeep: ever heard of trolls ?
[09:52] <k1l_> creeep: like some users insulting other ones.
[09:52] <k1l_> !guidelines | creeep read the channel rules
[09:54] <serialnuts> Hi all, I want to migrate my current installation that resides on a 500GB RAID 0 (2x250GB Mechanical drives) to a 240GB SSD. I haven't filled the RAID0 partition yet so there won't be a space issue whatsoever between the drives. Could anyone recommend the better tool for the job? Thanks
[09:55] <EriC^^> serialnuts: rsync
[09:55] <serialnuts> Would cp -a do? If I mount the other drive
[09:55] <serialnuts> Thanks EriC^^
[09:56] <EriC^^> rsync -av --exclude "sys" --exclude "proc" .... / /path/to/other/mounted/fs
[09:56] <serialnuts> EriC^^, so rsync everything over and then run grub again to make it boot?
[09:56] <serialnuts> EriC^^, Thanks for the help
[09:56] <EriC^^> yeah mount bind the virtual fs and chroot and reinstall grub
[09:57] <EriC^^> serialnuts: no problem
[09:57] <EriC^^> i think there's a better rsync command in the arch wiki, 1 sec
[09:58] <EriC^^> rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} / /path/to/mounted/fs
[09:58] <serialnuts> Yeah I was watching that one too after you mentioned it
[09:58] <Bear__> bazhang,
[09:58] <Bear__> Do you live on freenode?
[09:58] <serialnuts> EriC^^, This is awesome thanks man :]
[09:58] <EriC^^> serialnuts: no problem :)
[10:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> EriC^^ you good with encryption?
[10:01] <EriC^^> so-so
[10:02] <EriC^^> pretty basic
[10:02] <EriC^^> what's up?
[10:02] <sacarlson1> Cryptkeeper 0.9.5  is what I use for my stuf
[10:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> EriC^^ so I am trying to figure out how to merge whatsapp databases
[10:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I managed to decrypt the files and merge the databases
[10:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> now I need to rencrypt it so that the program can identify it as a backup
[10:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> EriC^^ so I am trying to figure out how to merge whatsapp databases
[10:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I managed to decrypt the files and merge the databases
[10:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> now I need to rencrypt it so that the program can identify it as a backup
[10:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> whatsapp is a messenging app
[10:09] <EriC^^> yeah, i know it
[10:10] <EriC^^> how did you decrypt it?
[10:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> using a software called whatcrypt
[10:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I have a key file
[10:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its crypt12 normally
[10:11] <EriC^^> try to encrypt it with it maybe
[10:11] <bazhang> !info whatcrypt
[10:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/merge-multiple-whatsapp-backup-file-one-t3142974
[10:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> EriC^^ I did try it, app didnt recognise the file
[10:11] <bazhang> ToAruShiroiNeko, how is whatsapp related to ubuntu
[10:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it isnt
[10:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> fine
[10:12] <bazhang> ToAruShiroiNeko, why not use alis to find a suitable channel for that
[10:12] <bazhang> !alis | ToAruShiroiNeko
[10:12] <EriC^^> #crypto maybe?
[10:12] <sulle> When i try to play a game in fullscreen it shows up only on my second monitor. How can i fix this ?
[10:13] <bazhang> what game sulle, native, wine steam or other
[10:14] <sulle> Steam / Arma 3
[10:14] <bazhang> have you tried #ubuntu-steam yet sulle
[10:14] <sulle> Oh no, i did not know it existed. But thank you alot man. Ill head over there now.
[10:24] <creeep> I installed notion using sudo apt-get ...now how do I set it up?
[10:25] <minimec> sulle: Might be that the xserver sees your 'secondary monitor' as 'primary'. You can check that with 'xrandr | grep primary' or simply 'xrandr' in a console.
[10:26] <minimec> sulle: To change that... 'xrandr --output YOURDEVICE --primary'
[10:39] <multifractal> How do I find out where a program I built from source stored all its compiled binaries? It built with make.
[10:40] <sacarlson1> whereis ls
[10:40] <sacarlson1> ls just an example bin
[10:41] <geirha> only the makefile knows
[10:41] <ax562> ask nicely
[10:41] <sacarlson1> only reason whereis won't work is if it's not already in your path
[10:42] <sulle> minimec, how do i know what my primary is connected at ? Dp-0 dp-1 dv-i-d0 dv-i-1 HDMI-0 ?
[10:42] <bradyyuy> salut
[10:42] <Pierro> salut
[10:42] <cfhowlett> !fr | bradyyuy
[10:43] <bradyyuy> "Salut
[10:46] <multifractal> So given this makefile, how can I tell where the compiled binaries are stored?
[10:46] <multifractal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19885242/
[10:47] <minimec> sulle: good question. I normally do that with 'xrandr' and compare the device name and resolution. xrandr sees the device in a different way sometime. For example. I have two DVI 1680x1050 displays connected, one is plugged with a displayport-dvi adapter. xrandr sees them as HDMI1+2... ;)
[10:47] <sacarlson1> multifractal: I have another idea cd sourcbuild ;  find . -executable
[10:47] <poops> nfs
[10:47] <poops> trying to set tcp_slot_table_entries to a different number and make it persistant
[10:48] <poops> cat /proc/sys/sunrpc/tcp_slot_table_entries
[10:48] <poops> where do I set it on ubuntu?
[10:48] <poops> (this is an nfs client setting)
[10:48] <poops> any idea?
[10:48] <sulle> minimec, when i write grep primary the resolution looks like my main monitor. but still, the problem is when im trying to play games :/
[10:48] <multifractal> join ##c++
[10:51] <jancoow> back!
[10:51] <akik> poops: /etc/sysctl.conf. i think it should be sunrpc.tcp_slot_table_entries in that file
[10:51] <minimec> sulle: I see. My experience is that some programs use the primary screen as default fullscreen device, like 'kodi' for example.
[10:51] <jancoow> so..
[10:51] <sacarlson1> multifractal: DISTRIBUTE_DIR /bin and /lib
[10:51] <jancoow> anyone an idea how i can resume the upgrade?
[10:51] <nullbyte_> ow can i add somethings for grub command line to default to be added automatically when i run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg GRUB_CMDLINUX_DEFAULT i mean something like that but added stuff to be from another OSs (fedora, ubuntu) ?
[10:51] <jancoow> i wll repeat my question
[10:52] <jancoow> Hi there. I was upgrading my ubuntu 14.04 to the newest verson, xenional. In this upgrade proces, the installation got stuck on Preparing to unpack .../cgroup-lite_1.11_all.deb ...
[10:52] <jancoow> i killed the installation process (the python one)
[10:52] <sulle> minimec, hmmm. i realy dont know what to do :(
[10:52] <jancoow> but i still see processes in  ps -ef | grep -e dpkg -e apt
[10:53] <minimec> sulle: Still. You can once try to switch the primary screen. The command I posted doesn' survive a reboot... ;)
[10:53] <poops> thanks akik
[10:53] <jancoow> http://pastebin.com/raw/uBCBP8qw
[10:53] <jancoow> should i kill those?
[10:53] <jancoow> what should i do?
[10:54] <poops> akik: question. currently this file does not have this entry. where does it take the current value from then? (16)
[10:54] <brutos> Hey
[10:54] <sulle> Ok, thanks alot minimec :)
[10:54] <brutos> anyone here?
[10:54] <akik> poops: kernel default i guess
[10:55] <minimec> sulle: no problem
[10:55] <akik> poops: the file does not include nearly everything by default
[10:55] <poops> just for curiosity. can u check on ur system?
[10:55] <abelur> orlock, all I had to do was configure and run dnsmasq locally
[10:55] <akik> poops: i checked and no sunrpc entries
[10:56] <sacarlson1> butos; last I checked it seems we now have 1874 people here so why would you need to ask that?
[10:56] <acerimmer_> brutos, save time and bandwidth; ask your questions
[10:56] <poops> cat /proc/sys/sunrpc/tcp_slot_table_entries
[10:57] <sacarlson1> jancoow: I think I would just kill them. maybe reboot
[10:58] <jancoow> sacarlson1: i'm afraid a reboot would destroy everthing
[10:58] <sacarlson1> jancoow: make a backup before you do
[10:58] <jancoow> problem is i doesn't have much time and the server needs to be up an running :/
[10:59] <jancoow> and ugh, it has to be stable before i leave for a year to another country ://
[10:59] <jancoow> every command i type is so SLOW
[10:59] <sacarlson1> jancoow: make a backup virtual system while it goes down
[10:59] <jancoow> it looks like there is a heavy load
[10:59] <jancoow> sacarlson1: yeah thanks i will try that. I hope i can resume the upgrade or something
[10:59] <Leksa> hi?
[11:00] <ramonskie> just upgraded to 16.04 and now after a few minutes it want to start wlan0 see http://pastebin.com/zHQ4qp8b while wlan1 is already up and running i think the culprit is network-manager and i only have 1 wlan card
[11:01] <Anta_Kopi> hello
[11:01] <Anta_Kopi> how to register?
[11:01] <k1l_> !register | Anta_Kopi
[11:01] <sulle> minimec, very nice :) it worked. but how can i set this so it will stick and survive a reboot
[11:02] <Anta_Kopi> [11:01] <Anta_Kopi> hi [11:01] == Cannot send to channel: #freenode
[11:02] <Desu> Anta_Kopi: wait a bit and you will be able to
[11:02] <akik> poops: do you know how i can get the optimal value for tcp_slot_table_entries ?
[11:02] <k1l_> Anta_Kopi: wait in that channel. the freenode staff needs to grant you the permission to talk in there. but you can pm the staff if you need help
[11:02] <Desu> Anta_Kopi: but why not just register?
[11:02] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: it might be you have an encrypted wlan then it might create a virtual lan that is the unencryped side
[11:03] <Anta_Kopi> msg nickserv register your_password your_email_address
[11:03] <poops> akik, no just want to know if indeed 16 is the default value
[11:03] <minimec> sulle: you might be able to change the promary screen with the 'displays' GUI in settings. otherwise you could make a 'launcher' with that command and put it in 'Startup Applications'
[11:03] <minimec> sulle: Nice to hear that it worked by the way...
[11:04] <ramonskie> sacarlson1: how can i check this?
[11:04] <akik> poops: sunrpc.tcp_max_slot_table_entries = 65536 and sunrpc.tcp_slot_table_entries = 2
[11:04] <jancoow> it even hangs on reboot command :((
[11:04] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: route -n might provide a clue
[11:05] <ramonskie> sacarlson1: nothing interesting there already checked,
[11:06] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: does it work or not?
[11:06] <ramonskie> wlan / eth0 works
[11:06] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: so if it works don't fix it
[11:06] <ramonskie> but when networkmanagers want to enable wlan0 as shown in logs. dnsmasq wants to update resolf.conf
[11:07] <ramonskie> to 127.0.1.1
[11:07] <poops> thanks akik
[11:07] <Anta_Kopi> I not see email
[11:07] <Anta_Kopi> no in spam
[11:07] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: networkmanager has configs that can be setup manually
[11:08] <akik> poops: it's just that i'm starting to use nfs more and would like to know if i should tune that value
[11:08] <k1l_> Anta_Kopi: ask freenode stall. we cant help you on that. we dont run freenode
[11:08] <Anta_Kopi> ok
[11:08] <k1l_> Anta_Kopi: *freenode staff
[11:08] <poops> me too
[11:08] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: not sure how yours was setup but it might just default to wlan0 that is common but your system is not common so may require manual intervention
[11:09] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: also some usb wifi devices if unpluged  and repluged sometimes become a new wlanX
[11:09] <ramonskie> sacarlson1: well i now disabled dnsmasq for now but i really would like to solve this
[11:10] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: I think I had a usb device like that, that I force to become wlan0 with mods to some config file in /etc
[11:10] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: but it is normally not needed
[11:11] <ramonskie> sacarlson1: its strange this happens after the upgrade
[11:11] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: ya that happens too
[11:11] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: does it remain the same after reboot?
[11:11] <ramonskie> yes
[11:12] <rajivmars>  Is "virtualbox" only able to run 32-bit operating systems or 64-bit as well?
[11:12] <ramonskie> also what noramly was eht0 is now eth1
[11:12] <sacarlson1> well then just change the values in networkmanager to match I guess would be the easiest
[11:14] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: vitualbox runs both 32 and 64 bit
[11:15] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: but to run 64 bit you must have a 64 bit system, but you can also run a 32 bit on a 64 bit sytem
[11:15] <ramonskie> sacarlson1: where can i gind these config? for networkmanager? because i can't find anything releated to this at /etc/networkmanager/
[11:15] <rajivmars> sacarlson: then why its only showing 32-bit guest versions on my 64-bit ubuntu host?
[11:15] <akik> ramonskie: look into /etc/udev/rules.d
[11:15] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: its partly dependent on the driver used for the device but just from memory it's like modprobe or something
[11:16] <ramonskie> ok
[11:16] <sacarlson1> modprobe.d maybe
[11:16] <sacarlson1> or modules
[11:17] <akik> ramonskie: you can bind the mac address to an interface name there
[11:17] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: there are added params on some devices and they are not common between devices
[11:18] <ramonskie> okay i see in my /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules 4 network cards
[11:19] <ramonskie> see http://pastebin.com/P75ATpcS
[11:19] <ramonskie> not sure which i should remove
[11:20] <akik> ramonskie: you can see three different mac addresses there
[11:20] <ramonskie> yes and thats whats strange
[11:20] <akik> ooh actually four
[11:20] <akik> ramonskie: you can see the current mac addresses with "sudo ifconfig -a"
[11:20] <akik> don't need to use sudo even
[11:21] <ramonskie> so the 2 below are correct
[11:21] <ramonskie> no clue where those other 2 comes from
[11:21] <akik> ramonskie: ok then you can remove the top two ones and rename the interfaces at the bottom
[11:21] <multifractal> sacarlson1: makefile.config says that the build and distribute directories are inside the source folder I cloned from github. But looking inside them I find that they're empty.
[11:22] <sacarlson1> ramonskie: might try just backup the file and remove the 6 bottom lines and reboot to see what happens
[11:22] <akik> ramonskie: it's really weird that the mac addresses would change without changes to the hardware
[11:22] <sacarlson1> multifractal: did you build as root or as user?
[11:23] <ramonskie> akik: yes indeed never have seen this in my lifetime
[11:23] <sacarlson1> multifractal: did you try my find . --ex... method?
[11:23] <rajivmars> How to run 64-bit operating systems virtualbox inside the host os "ubuntu 16.04"? the virtualbox only shows 32-bit guest os versions. How to fix it?
[11:23] <multifractal> sacarlson1 I built without sudo. No sorry what is your find method?
[11:23] <sacarlson1> multifractal: crap I had to look that up
[11:24] <ramonskie> thanks for your help going to reboot now and see if anything changed
[11:25] <sacarlson1> multifractal: man find
[11:25] <rajivmars> How to run 64-bit operating systems on  virtualbox inside the host os "ubuntu 16.04"? the virtualbox only shows 32-bit guest os versions. How to fix it?
[11:26] <sacarlson1> find . -executable
[11:26] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, is your physical box a 32 bit box?
[11:26] <sacarlson1> multifractal: and don't make me look it up again
[11:27] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: its 32-bit
[11:27] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: as I said you can't run virtualbox 64bit on 32 bit box
[11:28] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, then you are limited to your physical hardware
[11:28] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: I am sorry. its 64-bit box.
[11:29] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: are you running a 32bit os on a 64bit box?
[11:29] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: that also won't work
[11:29] <rajivmars> no i am running a 64-bit os on a 64-bit box.
[11:30] <multifractal> sacarlson1: I don't really follow. There's no executable to find.
[11:30] <akik> rajivmars: did you enable the vt-x extensions in your bios?
[11:30] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: verify with uname -i
[11:30] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, system menu > "about this computer" > OS Type    reports what?
[11:31] <sacarlson1> multifractal: maybe you didn't build it yet?
[11:31] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: os type is 64-bit.
[11:31] <sacarlson1> multifractal: build it then search
[11:32] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, then you should be 64 bit enabled in vbox
[11:32] <multifractal> sacarlson1: I did build it. There isn't supposed to be an executable. It's a lib for deep learning, I can successfully import the modules and use them.
[11:32] <rajivmars> sacarlson: its x86_64.
[11:32] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, lscpu | grep CPU | pastebinit
[11:32] <sacarlson1> multifractal: even libs are marked as -exec as far as I've seen
[11:33] <sacarlson1> multifractal: did you run my search function or not in the source dir?
[11:33] <sacarlson1> multifractal: from the build it showed examples also that were bin
[11:34] <multifractal> sacarlson1 OK I found the tests, they're executables. In the cloned_source_dir/.build_release/test
[11:35] <multifractal> sacarlson1: and I also found an executable under cloned_srouce_dir/.build_release/tools
[11:36] <sacarlson1> multifractal: see how easy that is
[11:36] <multifractal> so that hidden .build_release is where all the CPP objects are stored? My original question.
[11:37] <jancoow> sacarlson1: i did a reboot. I could resume the upgrade !!!
[11:37] <sacarlson1> jancoow: good your not a chicken any more
[11:37] <jancoow> sacarlson1: what? xd
[11:37] <jancoow> everything works now.. i think
[11:38] <sacarlson1> jancoow: that my way of praise
[11:38] <jancoow> only mysql not and phpmyadmin ugh
[11:38] <sacarlson1> jancoow: just manually try install them. I have methods to fix packages that get stuck after a bad install also
[11:38] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: see this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/19888528/plain/.
[11:39] <cfhowlett> login required?  Nope
[11:40] <jancoow> sacarlson1: https://jancokock.me/f/72483 ah!
[11:41] <sacarlson1> jancoow: new version I guess they use systemctl now
[11:42] <sacarlson1> jancoow: hay I still run 14.04 so ??
[11:42] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: see this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/19889104/.
[11:43] <sacarlson1> jancoow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760724/16-04-upgrade-broke-mysql-server
[11:43] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, right.  you have 64 bit and should be able to install same in a Vbox
[11:44] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: but it only shows 32-bit guest os versions.
[11:45] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, do you have 64 bit versions available?
[11:45] <rajivmars> cfhowlett:absolutely.
[11:46] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: did you install the open source version?  might try the real orcacle  https://www.virtualbox.org/
[11:47] <rajivmars> I have installed vbox 5.0.18 from the ubuntu repositories.
[11:47] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: the real one is better
[11:48] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, +1 for the opensource version from oracle
[11:48] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: how do i get it?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, virtualbox.org
[11:50] <akik> rajivmars: did you enable the vt-x extensions in your bios?
[11:50] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: is there any link that provides the installation instruction for that?
[11:50] <luxpir> quick question: anyone know of ubuntu touch channel?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !touch | luxpir
[11:50] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, download the .deb, then sudo dkpg -i .deb
[11:50] <rajivmars> akik: how do i enable it? i mean is there any settings in vbox application?
[11:51] <akik> rajivmars: in your bios
[11:52] <rajivmars> akit: you mean i have to do it after rebooting and then select the bios settings?
[11:52] <akik> rajivmars: yes reboot and go to your bios
[11:53] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: that's all i need to install it?
[11:53] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: there are other extensions it depends on what you are doing with it
[11:54] <luxpir> tried #ubuntutouch... nope
[11:54] <luxpir> missed a hyphen... thanks!
[11:54] <akik> rajivmars: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests
[11:54] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, yes, but you might also want to get the extensions
[11:54] <rajivmars>  sacarlson1: that means this is enough for a normal installation?
[11:55] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.0/virtualbox-5.1_5.1.0-108711~Ubuntu~xenial_amd64.deb
[11:55] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: assuming you runing 16.04
[11:56] <rajivmars> sacarlson1: yes i am using 16.04.
[11:56] <sacarlson1> rajivmars: it runs with just that, the extensions add featurs like cut and paste between linux and virtual and shared file systems between linux and virtual and....
[11:57] <rajivmars> cfhowlett:thankyou:)
[11:57] <cfhowlett> happy2help! rajivmars
[11:58] <rajivmars> sacarlson1: thankyou:)
[11:58] <sacarlson1> np
[11:59] <OpenSorce> I'm curious... since Canonical is in bed with Microsoft on this, will this channel be supporting Ubuntu on Windows when it happens?
[12:02] <k1l_> OpenSorce: besides your offensive wording: #ubuntu-on-windows is already there
[12:03] <OpenSorce> Oh, so it is! :-)
[12:03] <OpenSorce> What about my wording did you find offensive?
[12:03] <bazhang> OpenSorce, the whole 'in bed with'
[12:04] <sacarlson1> OpenSorce: to them the m word is as bad as the f word ha ha
[12:04] <k1l_> i guess you know what you wrote. so your question doesnt make sense.
[12:04] <OpenSorce> bazhang, right... is that not true? Are they not working together on this?
[12:05] <sacarlson1> OpenSorce: that's not a technical problem, that is what we do here
[12:05] <bazhang> OpenSorce, please lets get back to support, your questions about ubuntu/windows have a channel for you to join
[12:05] <kvmmm> so I downloaded VeraCrypt for Ubuntu. It comes in a .tar.bz2 file. I open it, it has a file for x64 (because my computer is 64 bit, right? I'm not gonna use the x86?) but when I double click that file, it opens in gEdit
[12:05] <kvmmm> so.... how do I instal it?
[12:05] <OpenSorce> bazhang, just trying to figure out what offended you guys so I wouldn't do it again...
[12:05] <kvmmm> I'm not finding it in the "software center"
[12:06] <bazhang> !info veracrypt
[12:06] <kvmmm> should I use something else?
[12:06] <bazhang> follow the read me then kvmmm
[12:06] <k1l_> OpenSorce: you did name it "in bed with" instead of "does cooperate" on purpose. so stop playing that game now.
[12:06] <kvmmm> what's better than VeraCrypt?
[12:06] <sacarlson1> !info cryptkeeper
[12:07] <bazhang> #ubuntu-on-windows please OpenSorce
[12:07] <kvmmm> bazhang, which readme?
[12:07] <kvmmm> !info veracrypt
[12:07] <bazhang> kvmmm, the one you get with veracryot
[12:07] <OpenSorce> k1l_, dude... it's a figure of speech. It wasn't meant to be offensive. Sorry. Please don't accuse me of playing games. I recommend to catalyze and assume good faith as the freenode guidelines suggest.
[12:08] <bazhang> OpenSorce, please stop the chit chat here
[12:08] <OpenSorce> bazhang, done.
[12:14] <kvmmm> the user guide? I'm downloading a PDF. No Readme came with the VeraCrypt download
[12:14] <abhvl> how can i set encrypted-lvmed linux computer to autostart after poweron?
[12:14] <abhvl> without human intervention.
[12:22] <sacarlson1> abhvl: sounds like you would write a script that would run at boot to mount it for you
[12:23] <sacarlson1> abhvl: the auto start at boot script can be started with eather cron or system methods
[12:25] <sacarlson1> abhvl: but it looks like these guys have a better idea http://askubuntu.com/questions/450895/mount-luks-encrypted-hard-drive-at-boot
[12:28] <jancoow> sacarlson1: i get this now http://pastebin.com/raw/Ku9nVyd5
[12:28] <jancoow> i can't even pruge mysql-server
[12:28] <jancoow> because i need to run apt-get -f install
[12:29] <kvmmm> can someone suggest a good app for created encrypted containers?
[12:30] <sacarlson1> abhvl: I also wrote this a few years ago that was a theory to make luks more secure http://encryption-infrastructure.blogspot.com/2011/03/remote-on-line-encryption-keys-for-luks.html
[12:31] <sacarlson1> jancoow: ok I'll take a look
[12:31] <minimec> jancoow: Reading your pastebin, try to remove the old -dev file installed when using 14.04 'libmysqlclient-dev'
[12:32] <abhvl> sacarlson1: thanks. reading.
[12:32] <jancoow> minimec: how can i do that?
[12:32] <abhvl> sacarlson1: just to discuss, in case of script where do that script reads the passphrase from?
[12:34] <minimec> jancoow: Try to remove it the normal way with 'sudo apt remove libmysqlclient-dev'. You can also try to 'sudo dpkg -r libmysqlclient-dev'
[12:34] <sacarlson1> jancoow: can you try uninstall this first? libmysqlclient-dev
[12:34] <sacarlson1> ya what minimec said
[12:35] <jancoow> i want to
[12:35] <sacarlson1> abhvl: in this experiment I think I chose some public like google drive
[12:35] <sacarlson1> abhvl: if the system was compomized I could just remove the link
[12:36] <jancoow> sacarlson1: minimec: ah. I need to delete al this: sudo apt-get remove libmysqlclient-dev mysql-client mysql-client-core-5.7 dbconfig-mysql phpmyadmin before i can move on
[12:36] <abhvl> sacarlson1: ok. looks good.
[12:36] <sacarlson1> jancoow: so do it
[12:38] <jancoow> sacarlson1: http://pastebin.com/raw/h4zrtFZA
[12:38] <jancoow> can't even do that.
[12:39] <sacarlson1> jancoow: I thought you have to remove first not install
[12:39] <sacarlson1> jancoow: remove it all
[12:39] <sacarlson1> jancoow: the old and new seem to conflict
[12:40] <jancoow> i removed it
[12:40] <jancoow> nvm
[12:40] <jancoow> sorry
[12:41] <minimec> jancoow: same procedure with 'mysql-common' see --> "mysql-common 5.7.13-1ubuntu14.04"
[12:42] <minimec> jancoow: Don't know what went wrong with your upgrade, but you still have a buch of 14.04 packages installed...
[12:42] <jancoow> minimec: i know. I have mysql-5.7 installed manual because it wasn't in the trusty repo
[12:42] <jancoow> and that's why i've conflicts now i think!
[12:43] <jancoow> everything is removed now
[12:43] <jancoow> and new installation looks good!
[12:43] <jancoow> mysql is up and running again! thanks!
[12:43] <kvmmm> yay, I managed to install VeraCrypt using the command line! I'm a genius!
[12:44] <kvmmm> super coder man. I'll hack your I.P. into the BotNet dawg
[12:44] <sacarlson1> abhvl: I'm not sure how I wrote it at that time but you could add if not already there that the system pools access to remote key.  if for reasons the key is not present they system unmounts the luks encrypted disk
[12:45] <minimec> jancoow: I see ;)
[12:49] <abhvl> sacarlson1: ok
[13:13] <h> 大家好
[13:13] <Guest22173> 有没有人呀
[13:16] <tony_> ,
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:21] <hyperknot> hi, what is the systemd version of UTC=yes in /etc/default/rcS? I'm trying to set up a 16.04 server to UTC in a script
[13:36] <dancingd3mon> hey guys, I'm trying to run some app in the terminal called kid3-cli and I keep on getting can't connect to X server
[13:36] <dancingd3mon> May I know what should be done to fix this?
[13:38] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon: are you running an X server on that system?
[13:38] <dancingd3mon> I have no idea what that is.
[13:38] <dancingd3mon> How can I check ?
[13:38] <sacarlson1> like are you running it on a desktop or laptop?
[13:38] <Fuchs> dancingd3mon: do you have a graphical user interface?
[13:39] <Fuchs> (also the -cli is somewhat misleading, then)
[13:42] <dancingd3mon> I only use VNC to connect to my server sometimes, It's a dedicated server that I run those commands in putty.
[13:42] <dancingd3mon> I removed kid3 and now I'm getting some errors for some reasons
[13:42] <dancingd3mon> I did this : sudo apt-get remove kid3*
[13:43] <dancingd3mon> now whenever I type whereis <appname>
[13:43] <dancingd3mon> it says
[13:43] <dancingd3mon> The program 'whereis' is currently not installed. To run 'whereis' please ask your administrator to install the package 'util-linux'
[13:43] <dancingd3mon> I try to install it and then it stops with such an error:
[13:43] <dancingd3mon> sh: 1: mount: not found
[13:43] <dancingd3mon> E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Pre-Invoke 'mount -o remount,exec /tmp'
[13:43] <dancingd3mon> E: Sub-process returned an error code
[13:43] <pixel6692> Hello my NFSD results in reboot of whole server after NFSD: starting 90-second grace period, https://thepb.in/p/66hAc5gwVLZAPSX
[13:44] <tatertots> why did you remove it so quickly?
[13:44] <\9> dancingd3mon: sounds like you somehow screwed up your system with that remove. try reinstall util-linux
[13:44] <tatertots> only to attempt to reinstall it
[13:45] <\9> dancingd3mon: refer to /var/log/apt/ to find out what happened to it
[13:45] <dancingd3mon> i tried it and i keep on getting some error message...
[13:45] <\9> you might be missing something else too
[13:45] <dancingd3mon> okay
[13:45] <Pici> dancingd3mon: don't use wildcards when removing packages, and always read before you press yes.
[13:45] <\9> "some error message" doesn't say anything to us
[13:45] <dancingd3mon> http://sourcedigit.com/18106-install-kid3-audio-tag-editor-on-ubuntu/
[13:45] <dancingd3mon> this is what the folk said at the bottom...
[13:46] <tatertots> you should have asked here before removing it. so you could at least remove it in a 'graceful' way
[13:46] <\9> shouldn't have used a wildcard there
[13:46] <dancingd3mon> so now umount/mount seems not working too..
[13:46] <\9> instead remove the exact package you installed
[13:46] <\9> and let autoremove remove the rest
[13:46] <dancingd3mon> yeah my mistake
[13:46] <dancingd3mon> so what can I do at the moment to fix this?
[13:47] <\9> as i said
[13:47] <\9> reinstall util-linux
[13:47] <\9> and find out what else was lost
[13:47] <\9> if reinstalling these packages is a no go then you will have to reinstall the system
[13:47] <dancingd3mon> damn it...
[13:48] <\9> you said you get "an error message" without saying what the error is
[13:49] <dancingd3mon> this is what i get : http://pastebin.com/YrLNFwVz
[13:49] <dancingd3mon> in /var/log/apt/history.log
[13:50] <\9> dancingd3mon: check term.log for details on the error
[13:55] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon: to me it looks like the remove took out some stuf unrelated to the originl kid3 due to your kid3*.  my best guess is you will have to do a complete reinstall
[13:55] <\9> sacarlson1: right
[13:55] <\9> do you have anything to actually add to this discussion?
[13:56] <dancingd3mon> buthttp://pastebin.com/1gmy4gkR
[13:56] <dancingd3mon> http://pastebin.com/1gmy4gkR
[13:56] <\9> well
[13:56] <\9> if you take a look at that log
[13:56] <dancingd3mon> but why I can't just re-instlal them...
[13:57] <\9> you can see a lot of essential packages being removed
[13:57] <\9> "dpkg: warning: this is an essential package; it should not be removed"
[13:57] <\9> this is sort of a big red warning flag
[13:57] <\9> ... yeah looks like you removed most of your system
[13:57] <dancingd3mon> wow
[13:58] <dancingd3mon> so what can be done at this moment beside re-installing ?
[13:58] <\9> looks pretty irreperable
[13:58] <dancingd3mon> because I can't do this
[13:58] <tatertots> lol besides reinstalling lol
[13:58] <\9> yeah this is FUBAR'd
[13:58] <\9> wipe and reinstall
[13:58] <dancingd3mon> wtf...It's like 20 tb in here
[13:59] <dancingd3mon> I don't have somewhere to backup 20 tb
[13:59] <\9> well your data should be on a separate partition, right?
[13:59] <tatertots> you want to try and actually use the mangled mess you've created and think it might have the slightest remote chance of being stable moving forward
[13:59] <\9> if your data is not on a separate partition... you'll need some backup space fast
[13:59] <tatertots> LMAO
[13:59] <sacarlson1> \9 was this message to me?: do you have anything to actually add to this discussion?
[13:59] <\9> nevermind
[14:01] <dancingd3mon> I'm out of words tbh
[14:01] <dancingd3mon> there isn't a way to at least try to fix this?
[14:01] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon: we learn from our mistakes
[14:01] <\9> no
[14:01] <tatertots> all for a mp3 id3 tag editor
[14:02] <tatertots> friggin mp3's
[14:02] <\9> you removed the entire system
[14:02] <Pici> It happens.
[14:03] <tatertots> well you live and learn
[14:03] <\9> dancingd3mon: if you have your 20tb data on a separate partition, reinstalling the system should be a no big deal
[14:03] <\9> if it's not, then you need to back that up somewhere
[14:03] <\9> if this is a remote server, it's time to get some support involved
[14:04] <tatertots> you won't be doing that many more times in the future...no more *wildcard removing things unless you know EXACTLY what the results will be and are willing to accept the risks
[14:04] <\9> yea and always review the packages being removed
[14:04] <\9> don't just press 'y'
[14:04] <dancingd3mon__> dude I just dont know where to start now hmm..
[14:04] <\9> i just told you
[14:04] <dancingd3mon__> buying another server to backup
[14:04] <tatertots> sure you do
[14:04] <dancingd3mon__> and doing it all from the beginning
[14:05] <tatertots> you're going to start reinstalling
[14:05] <dancingd3mon__> I need to backup 20 tb
[14:05] <\9> get support involved to help you with it
[14:05] <\9> i wouldn't try to actually run anything on the system
[14:05] <\9> because there is no system left
[14:05] <dancingd3mon__> damn it..
[14:06] <DArqueBishop> Add "keep regular backups" to the list of lessons learned. :-)
[14:06] <tatertots> you don't even have physical access to the server do you...you said you're using it remotely over VCN/ssh
[14:06] <\9> next time, have a separate partition for the system
[14:06] <\9> so you can easily reinstall in case this happens
[14:06] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon but like they said all the data is intact you can just mount this partition and recover the data or maybe not even move it depending on how it's partitioned
[14:07] <dancingd3mon__> I have 40 gb for the root
[14:07] <dancingd3mon__> can you just ask me what to do to double check the whole partition thing?
[14:08] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: I don't know how your vps or whatever is setup so like they said you will need support
[14:08] <squaregoldfish> If I make changes to /etc/crontab, do I have to run anything to make the system see the changes (as I would with a user crontab)?
[14:08] <dancingd3mon__> I need to know if the system was installed in another partition or the same one as the one with data
[14:09] <\9> df -h
[14:09] <\9> if you have df anymore
[14:09] <sacarlson1> squaregoldfish: so you modified the file direct?  if so you would have to reboot or maybe restart cron
[14:10] <squaregoldfish> sacarlson1: Thanks!
[14:11] <dancingd3mon__> now ssh is out all of a sudden
[14:11] <dancingd3mon__> and won't reconnect..
[14:12] <tatertots> not suprised
[14:12] <\9> that tends to happen when you remove the system, it can only keep its processes running for so long
[14:13] <tatertots> dancingd3mon.....did you have a 'disaster recovery' plan/procedure in place when you established this VPS system of yours?...
[14:13] <dancingd3mon__> no recovery plan
[14:13] <dancingd3mon__> at all
[14:14] <dancingd3mon__> i can access the data via ftp
[14:14] <dancingd3mon__> but ssh won't work for some reason
[14:14] <dancingd3mon__> vnc died too
[14:14] <\9> you can access the data over ftp?
[14:14] <dancingd3mon__> yeah
[14:14] <dancingd3mon__> rutorrent is still running
[14:14] <\9> what kind of ftp is it?
[14:14] <tatertots> don't most hosting providers make it pretty easy to spin up a new instance?
[14:14] <\9> i mean if the server is dead
[14:14] <\9> how can you access the files?
[14:15] <dancingd3mon__> ssh wont let me in
[14:15] <dancingd3mon__> but idk i can still ftp
[14:15] <dancingd3mon__> and rutorrent gui and deluge works
[14:15] <dancingd3mon__> i had the ssh set to something else
[14:16] <dancingd3mon__> maybe the config was wiped away or something
[14:16] <dancingd3mon__> ssh port i mean
[14:16] <\9> actually
[14:16] <\9> the logs indicate that you removed the ssh server too
[14:17] <EriC^^> what's the problem dancingd3mon__ ?
[14:17] <\9> he removed his system with apt
[14:18] <dancingd3mon__> yup! :(
[14:18] <EriC^^> what log?
[14:18] <EriC^^> what command did you run?
[14:18] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/1gmy4gkR
[14:18] <dancingd3mon__> sudo apt-get remove kid3*
[14:18] <\9> EriC^^: he has 20tb of data stranded
[14:18] <EriC^^> page no longer available
[14:19] <\9> it's /var/log/apt/term.log
[14:19] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/HzLh8ypX
[14:20] <EriC^^> that log doesn't seem that important
[14:20] <\9> well it was the indication that yes he really did remove the operating system
[14:20] <dancingd3mon__> so EriC^^
[14:21] <dancingd3mon__> do you think there is one hope of fixing it ?
[14:21] <Pici> EriC^^: start at line 650 or so
[14:21] <dancingd3mon__> no more SSH as \9 said
[14:21] <\9> now we're left figuring out disaster recovery
[14:21] <dancingd3mon__> Idk how on earth can one CL do all this
[14:21] <dancingd3mon__> no warning happened or anything....
[14:21] <dancingd3mon__> that folk in that blog said if you wish to remove it
[14:21] <dancingd3mon__> write this !
[14:21] <\9> you didn't pay attention to the list of packages it was going to remove?
[14:21] <dancingd3mon__> sudo apt-get remove kid3*
[14:22] <\9> that it was going to remove a ton of everything?
[14:22] <\9> the advice was bad
[14:22] <dancingd3mon__> i left it and went to eat!
[14:22] <Pici> dancingd3mon__: did you also use -y or -f when running the command?
[14:22] <EriC^^> this is all you removed paste.ubuntu.com/19902633/
[14:22] <EriC^^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19902633/
[14:22] <\9> still enough to render the system inoperable
[14:23] <DArqueBishop> This is why #openvpn has a bot trigger for blogs that says, "Do not follow blog posts for openvpn. They are wrong, they are old, they are written by fools. We won't read them, or troubleshoot them."
[14:23] <dancingd3mon__> Is it fixable EriC^^ ?
[14:23] <\9> systemd, mount, grub, udev.
[14:23] <dancingd3mon__> dude don't get me wrong and please put yourself in my shoes..I'm a noob when it comes to linux
[14:23] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: yes
[14:23] <dancingd3mon__> I barely knew how to type some commands
[14:23] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: these are the packages paste.ubuntu.com/19902769/
[14:23] <Pici> dancingd3mon__: It should have listed the packages it was going to uninstall before it did it.
[14:24] <\9> EriC^^: his ssh is dead and has no way to get into the server aside from ftp
[14:24] <dancingd3mon__> But no more SSH for me ?
[14:24] <EriC^^> download those as they are in a file dancingd3mon__ and type xargs -a /path/to/file sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall
[14:24] <\9> he can't type anything anymore
[14:24] <dancingd3mon__> but this is weird...Since ftp is running
[14:24] <dancingd3mon__> I can't run putty via winscp ?
[14:24] <dancingd3mon__> Or something like this..
[14:24] <\9> can't run putty if there's no ssh server
[14:25] <DArqueBishop> WinSCP requires an SSH server.
[14:25] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: usually vps give another way to connect other than ssh, like a console from their site
[14:25] <dancingd3mon__> should i ask them to install those for me?
[14:26] <tafb> Ummm, hard drive is OK? Are you drunk Ubuntu? lol :) http://tafb.xxx/Screenshot_from_2016-07-18_14-05-06.png
[14:26] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: do you have a webserver running?
[14:26] <dancingd3mon__> yeah!
[14:26] <dancingd3mon__> vnc worked again
[14:26] <dancingd3mon__> now
[14:27] <EriC^^> ok great
[14:27] <dancingd3mon__> I'm in
[14:27] <\9> tafb: seems like the hdd is about to fail
[14:27] <dancingd3mon__> now i see my lxde. How do i run commands from this ?
[14:27] <\9> there should be a terminal in the menus
[14:28] <dancingd3mon__> lxterminal
[14:28] <dancingd3mon__> got that one
[14:28] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: type wget -O stuff http://pastebin.com/raw/tP8RTauR
[14:28] <\9> right
[14:28] <EriC^^> then xargs -a stuff sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall
[14:28] <tafb> \9: yeah, doesn't boot anymore, filesystem was corrupt. I ran it through ddrescue, recovered everything except 28mb, everything works great on the new drive.
[14:29] <\9> right
[14:29] <\9> i guess the "OK" means that it was successfully mounted
[14:29] <dancingd3mon__> i did EriC^^
[14:29] <dancingd3mon__> it said unable to locate
[14:30] <dancingd3mon__> and the list of packages
[14:30] <dancingd3mon__> oh I guess it didnt download the stuff ...oh wait
[14:30] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: type cat stuff
[14:30] <EriC^^> does it list the packages?
[14:30] <dancingd3mon__> I need to install the stuff ?
[14:30] <dancingd3mon__> or just type
[14:30] <dancingd3mon__> xargs -a stuff sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall
[14:30] <EriC^^> run the wget command first
[14:30] <dancingd3mon__> ugh
[14:30] <\9> that command installs the stuff
[14:30] <dancingd3mon__> nah sorry yeah
[14:30] <dancingd3mon__> one sec
[14:30] <EriC^^> make sure you dont overwrite another text file called stuff
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> sudo wget -O stuff http://pastebin.com/raw/tP8RTauR
[14:31] <EriC^^> or use wget -O /tmp/stuff
[14:31] <\9> don't need sudo for wget
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> i ran this first
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> and then the other one
[14:31] <\9> okay
[14:31] <\9> and it didn't work?
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> it said permission denied when I tried without sudo
[14:31] <\9> guess you're in some system dir
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> unable to locate tree showed with all pacakges
[14:31] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: try this for us
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> E: Unable to locate package rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> E: Unable to locate package rhythmbox-plugins
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> E: Unable to locate package sessioninstaller
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> E: Unable to locate package software-properties-gtk
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> E: Unable to locate package upower
[14:31] <dancingd3mon__> E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-drivers-common
[14:32] <\9> don't paste into the channels because this happens
[14:32] <\9> it'll wear off in a bit
[14:33] <dancingd3mon__> hey
[14:33] <dancingd3mon__> yeah when i pasted it, it muted me.
[14:33] <\9> you got muted and the mute expired while you reconnected
[14:33] <dancingd3mon__> what should i try now EriC^^ ?
[14:33] <\9> it muted you by IP
[14:33] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install --reinstall upower
[14:33] <dancingd3mon__> thanks yeah
[14:33] <EriC^^> try that
[14:33] <EriC^^> !info upower
[14:33] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work try sudo apt-get update and try again
[14:34] <dancingd3mon__> ends with : Fetched 3,053 kB in 0s (13.8 MB/s)
[14:34] <dancingd3mon__> sh: 1: mount: not found
[14:34] <dancingd3mon__> E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Pre-Invoke 'mount -o remount,exec /tmp'
[14:34] <dancingd3mon__> E: Sub-process returned an error code
[14:34] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall mount
[14:34] <\9> mount was one of the packages that were removed
[14:34] <dancingd3mon__> i did the update one and then the install --reinstall mount
[14:34] <dancingd3mon__> but same error
[14:34] <dancingd3mon__> problem excuting scripts
[14:35] <dancingd3mon__> while the update one went fine
[14:35] <EriC^^> i'd get your stuff out and reinstall
[14:35] <dancingd3mon__> :( thanks for trying anyway
[14:35] <dancingd3mon__> I guess no hope but to do this atm
[14:35] <EriC^^> no problem
[14:37] <tatertots> imagine how time consuming it'd be to go through that list and try to reinstall everything, in the correct order of dependence, omg
[14:41] <sacarlson1> I think I have a stupid idea, what if we ftp a iso file up and mount it chroot into it and make a fully working system?
[14:41] <dancingd3mon__> is that applicable to me ?
[14:41] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: maybe
[14:42] <dancingd3mon__> well i wish any idea would work instead of wasting 78 euros on a brand new server just for the sake of backing up!!
[14:42] <dancingd3mon__> no 1 week trial no bullshit..
[14:43] <\9> sacarlson1: how do you intend to mount something without mount?
[14:43] <sacarlson1> \9 you tell me.  is mount still installed?
[14:43] <\9> sacarlson1: it was one of the packages that were removed
[14:43] <tatertots> no
[14:43] <tatertots> mount has been removed
[14:43] <sacarlson1> case close it's hosed
[14:44] <tatertots> there will be no mounting of anything
[14:44] <uuu44> quick question: is "loopy" more like a british or american word?
[14:45] <\9> what's that got to do with ubuntu?
[14:45] <sacarlson1> uuu44: it's a uuu44 word now
[14:45] <uuu44> ubuntu loopy, name for the next release
[14:45] <\9> next release?
[14:45] <\9> it's already called yakkety
[14:46] <uuu44> much better
[14:46] <ph88> hey guys, i use ubuntu gnome, i made a link to a .exe file (opens with wine). The link seems to be a symlink .. how can i set the working directory ?
[14:47] <\9> ph88: you can't set the working directory with a symlink. use a script or a desktop file
[14:47] <ph88> is there a gui to make desktop file ?
[14:48] <\9> i'm not familiar with gnome 3. but desktop files are also called launchers
[14:49] <mcphail> sacarlson1: \9: at a push, you can always try using busybox, which provides "mount" as one of its many tools
[14:49] <sacarlson1> ph88: yes I can just right click on desktop in gnomeX and menu has a selection to create a launcher
[14:50] <Ronnie> Is there a music applet/widget for ubuntu that lets me organize/cleanup my music library (rate, add to playlist, delete)?
[14:50] <sacarlson1> mcphail: is busybox still installed?
[14:50] <\9> hmm is that so
[14:50] <\9> that could work
[14:50] <ph88> sacarlson1, i don't have that option
[14:50] <mcphail> sacarlson1: not by default, but you just need to get the binary on there somehow
[14:51] <mcphail> sacarlson1: it is self-contained
[14:51] <\9> ph88: you can always write one by hand, as they're text files: https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en
[14:51] <sacarlson1> there ya go problem solved,  but I'm not doing it
[14:51] <mcphail> sacarlson1: agreed
[14:51] <ph88>  \9 don't want to write by hand
[14:51] <sacarlson1> 78 euro is not much money it would cost $1000 in man power to fix it
[14:52] <\9> sacarlson1: and it's still a long shot
[14:52] <sacarlson1> yup
[14:52] <sacarlson1> but if someone was up for the chalange I would love to watch
[14:52] <\9> maybe you could write up a /usr/local/bin/mount that uses busybox mount?
[14:52] <\9> and try run apt with that?
[14:53] <\9> of course busybox needs to be installed
[14:53] <sacarlson1> yes that might be an easier solution
[14:53] <\9> dancingd3mon__: are you still there?
[14:53] <sacarlson1> maybe even worth a try
[14:53] <dancingd3mon__> yes
[14:53] <dancingd3mon__> ...
[14:53] <mcphail> \9: you'd just symlink /usr/local/bin/mount to wherever you have the busybox binary, and it would work automagically
[14:53] <\9> does the system have "busybox"?
[14:54] <\9> mcphail: oh, even nicer
[14:54] <dancingd3mon__> what is this?
[14:54] <dancingd3mon__> I'm not sure tbh
[14:54] <pavlushka> Is there any way to make the wifi device work, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19904862/ ?
[14:54] <\9> dancingd3mon__: it's a self-contained binary containing a lot of utilities, including the 'mount' that we need
[14:54] <\9> dancingd3mon__: try run it in the console
[14:55] <dancingd3mon__> what to run ? just busybox?
[14:55] <\9> yeah
[14:55] <dancingd3mon__> yeah
[14:55] <dancingd3mon__> seems installed
[14:55] <dancingd3mon__> too many stuff came too
[14:55] <\9> okay cool
[14:55] <\9> now try do this: sudo ln -s `which busybox` /usr/local/bin/mount
[14:55] <dancingd3mon__> i can give you TV access if you want to see yourself ?
[14:55] <dancingd3mon__> anyway ok
[14:56] <\9> then try run that reinstall command that EriC^^ provided earlier
[14:56] <dancingd3mon__> from the currently definied functions
[14:56] <dancingd3mon__> it shows mount, I see it
[14:56] <dancingd3mon__> but when running the command you just gave me
[14:56] <dancingd3mon__> it returns with nothing
[14:57] <dancingd3mon__> like i type it then enter
[14:57] <\9> it just links 'mount' into busybox
[14:57] <dancingd3mon__> oh okay
[14:57] <dancingd3mon__> so what to do now?
[14:57] <\9> try run that reinstall command
[14:57] <dancingd3mon__> sudo apt-get install --reinstall mount
[14:57] <dancingd3mon__> this?
[14:57] <\9> might need to also do: sudo ln -s `which busybox` /usr/local/bin/umount
[14:57] <\9> yeah
[14:57] <dancingd3mon__> done
[14:57] <dancingd3mon__> now running the reinstall commang
[14:58] <thurston> i'm trying to make a snap package from a single executable binary (the output of a game engine),  however I can't seem to get it to work.  I can make the snap package, however when I install it and run the command to execute the program, it segfaults
[14:58] <\9> okay fingers crossed
[14:58] <\9> this is sort of a long shot
[14:58] <sacarlson1> I feel like i'm witnessing  the imposible recovery the apollo 13 capsule
[14:59] <dancingd3mon__> it went a bit further but died with
[14:59]  * mcphail hasn't read the whole conversation, but has rarely been a situation where busybox couldn't help
[14:59] <\9> i must admit i totally forgot about busybox
[14:59] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/SkiNtZcD
[15:00] <\9> uhh
[15:00] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/XKanmE5v
[15:00] <\9> wait why is is trying to remove the kernel
[15:01] <dancingd3mon__> no idea tbh
[15:02] <\9> try run it without --reinstall
[15:02] <\9> not sure why that is even there
[15:02] <dancingd3mon__> same exact error
[15:03] <\9> gah
[15:03] <sacarlson1> down to the last idea of iso?
[15:03] <\9> i'm afraid so
[15:03] <Amine_> #ssh
[15:03] <Amine_> sorry
[15:03] <dancingd3mon__> so no hope?
[15:03] <sacarlson1> i've never done it
[15:04] <\9> i don't even know how could it possibly be done
[15:04] <jinxi1> Hello, I need help
[15:04] <sacarlson1> i've sort of done it with grub2 where I would mount an iso to install it without a usb drive
[15:04] <zamanf> test
[15:05] <\9> !ask | jinxi1
[15:05] <sacarlson1> you mount the iso as a loop
[15:05] <sacarlson1> I have done that before mount iso loop
[15:05] <\9> what do you intend to accomplish with the chroot though?
[15:06] <dancingd3mon__> can that be helpful sacarlson1 ?
[15:06] <jinxi1> when I scroll a webpage slowly in Google Chrome, I see lines being drawn. The page does not scroll smoothly.. it looks like the GPU is having trouble to redraw the lines. my gfx card is a Nvidia GTX 750i
[15:06] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: maybe
[15:06] <zamanf> lol
[15:07] <sacarlson1> like  sudo mount -o loop /pathto.iso
[15:07] <dancingd3mon__> :)
[15:07] <\9> does the server have enough room for an iso though
[15:07] <dancingd3mon__> yeah
[15:07] <\9> and which iso should be used?
[15:08] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: just to see if we can even get that far try upload an iso file of the system you now have installed
[15:08] <\9> i still don't get though, what would the chroot accomplish?
[15:09] <\9> once you have the chroot environment, what then?
[15:09] <sacarlson1> I think we might fall into another problem as I think I couldn't install a system on the same disk that I mounted it from, but maybe it will work if it's on another partition
[15:10] <dancingd3mon__> iso file of a system?
[15:10] <dancingd3mon__> the support are the ones who install everything
[15:10] <dancingd3mon__> i don't have like a control panal
[15:10] <dancingd3mon__> to install isos
[15:10] <sacarlson1> if he was place the iso in the partition of his data files and then mount it, he might be able to reinstall a working system on the 40gb partition
[15:11] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: you don't need a control pannel just a root term
[15:11] <dancingd3mon__> nice..
[15:11] <dancingd3mon__> may i know what i should be doing now?
[15:11] <sacarlson1> maybe
[15:12] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: you should be looking to download if you don't already have it an iso of the same version you had running
[15:12] <sacarlson1> what was running up there?
[15:12] <sacarlson1> 14.04?
[15:13] <dancingd3mon__> yeah
[15:13] <sacarlson1> ok locate and download that , then upload or ftp to your system to the data partiton root
[15:13] <sacarlson1> were you keep your music and stuf
[15:14] <dancingd3mon__> is there a way to download it from cl ?
[15:14] <dancingd3mon__> like I'm now on VNC of my server
[15:14] <sacarlson1> cl?
[15:14] <dancingd3mon__> I can go to some website and download the iso then move it anywhere
[15:14] <dancingd3mon__> right?
[15:14] <dancingd3mon__> on the same server instead of uploading it from my own computer I mean
[15:14] <sacarlson1> if you can direct download it to the site that's cooler
[15:15] <sacarlson1> any method to get the iso up there is cool
[15:15] <dancingd3mon__> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[15:16] <dancingd3mon__> may you help me with which one to download from those torrents?
[15:16] <sacarlson1> torrents?  you think your torrent software is running?
[15:17] <dancingd3mon__> it is!
[15:17] <dancingd3mon__> running perfectly
[15:17] <dancingd3mon__> rutorrent and deluge!
[15:17] <dancingd3mon__> both...
[15:17] <sacarlson1> this is probly what you want http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.4-server-amd64.iso
[15:17] <sacarlson1> I assume they run 64bit
[15:18] <sacarlson1> sure try the torrent that's fine too
[15:18] <dancingd3mon__> but not the 1 gb one
[15:18] <dancingd3mon__> you chose the one for i386
[15:18] <dancingd3mon__> the 556mb one, right ?
[15:18] <sacarlson1> it says amd64
[15:19] <dancingd3mon__> not the desktop one, right?
[15:19] <sacarlson1> rght
[15:20] <sacarlson1> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.4-server-amd64.iso.torrent
[15:20] <dancingd3mon__> done
[15:21] <dancingd3mon__> downloaded it
[15:21] <sacarlson1> this only has about a 20% or less chance to work
[15:21] <dancingd3mon__> its alright...lets try
[15:21] <dancingd3mon__> so what should i do now?
[15:22] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/BJGWmEqP
[15:22] <sacarlson1> move the file to root of the data disk and lets rename it to ub144.iso just so we type less
[15:23] <\9> wait, the data *is* on a separate partition? what's preventing a reinstall here?
[15:24] <vit_> 0000
[15:24] <vit_> hi
[15:24] <sacarlson1> not much at this point,  we could position the iso in /boot also
[15:24] <dancingd3mon__> so we have hope?
[15:25] <sacarlson1> 20% or less
[15:25] <sacarlson1> mv the iso to /boot
[15:25] <sacarlson1> no lets mv it to /home we might want to reinstall boot also in the process
[15:26] <sacarlson1> it will be a fresh system that we will later mount the /home partition
[15:26] <dancingd3mon__> ok so mv it to home?
[15:26] <sacarlson1> yes
[15:26] <dancingd3mon__> move the iso to home
[15:27] <sacarlson1> mv iso file to /home/ub144.iso
[15:27] <dancingd3mon__> done
[15:27] <dancingd3mon__> there yeah renamed it
[15:27] <dancingd3mon__> root@localhost:/home# ls
[15:27] <dancingd3mon__> dancingdemon  lost+found  ub144.iso
[15:27] <sacarlson1> ok find that mount command
[15:27] <dancingd3mon__> sudo mount -o loop -t udf
[15:28] <dancingd3mon__> sudo mount -o loop -t udf  /home/ub144.iso ~/to where?
[15:28] <sacarlson1> sudo mount -loop -t /home/ub144.iso
[15:28] <sacarlson1> no wait
[15:28] <dancingd3mon__> as you've just said?
[15:29] <dancingd3mon__> sudo mount -loop -t /home/ub144.iso
[15:30] <sacarlson1> sudo mount -o loop /home/ub144.iso /home/mnt2
[15:30] <sacarlson1> we might have to create the mnt2 dir
[15:30] <dancingd3mon__> done
[15:30] <dancingd3mon__> oh
[15:30] <sacarlson1> it worked?
[15:30] <dancingd3mon__> no such file or diectory
[15:30] <dancingd3mon__> no
[15:30] <dancingd3mon__> so i creat mnt2
[15:31] <sacarlson1> mkdir /home/mnt2
[15:31] <dancingd3mon__> mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on /home/mnt2 failed: Invalid argument
[15:32] <sacarlson1> hmm
[15:32] <chimerahitman_> Hello, I am using Ubuntu Gnome Xenial, and I am having issues with multi-monitor setup. The issue is about monitor order once I enable a secondary monitor, where I have to reorder the monitors every time. Some other information is how the monitors are connected to the gfx card being in an order by how long the cable is which doesn't match the arrangement order.
[15:33] <chimerahitman_> Is there a way to force gnome display utility to always have monitor 2 as the left one, and monitor 1 as the center one. Always.
[15:33] <sacarlson1> can you show me the exact command you used and I assume you are root
[15:34] <dancingd3mon__> yeah
[15:35] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/K1B41ycT
[15:35] <sacarlson1> and you are sure the /home/mnt2 dir is now present ok
[15:36] <dancingd3mon__> yeah
[15:36] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: then from this I have to assume that the buzybox mount is minimal without the ability to mount loop
[15:36] <dancingd3mon__> i tried
[15:36] <dancingd3mon__> another iso
[15:36] <dancingd3mon__> and it mounted fine!
[15:37] <dancingd3mon__> but to mnt
[15:37] <sacarlson1> what you got an iso to mount?
[15:37] <dancingd3mon__> an bluray iso i have
[15:37] <sacarlson1> ok
[15:37] <sacarlson1> so mount works on loop
[15:37] <dancingd3mon__> i tried to mnt2
[15:37] <dancingd3mon__> and it works too
[15:37] <dancingd3mon__> with that iso though
[15:37] <dancingd3mon__> not the ub144.iso
[15:38] <dancingd3mon__> yes it does
[15:38] <sacarlson1> maybe size?  what size it this one that works?
[15:38] <sacarlson1> lets do an md5 on the iso to verify it's integrity
[15:38] <dancingd3mon__> around 34 gb
[15:39] <sacarlson1> ok it's not a size thing
[15:39] <dancingd3mon__> invalid argument.. weird
[15:39] <sacarlson1> check iso integrity
[15:40] <rahtgaz> hello all. The Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup repository gives me an error on 'sudo apt-get update'. The error is it uses a weak digest algorithm SHA1. What can I do?
[15:40] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/Tn4fEVF6
[15:40] <rahtgaz> This repository has been installed as intructed from the DCSS website
[15:40] <dancingd3mon__> how can i do this sacarlson1 ?
[15:41] <k1l> rahtgaz: you cant do anything. tell them to get their signing of the packages and repo sorted.
[15:41] <sacarlson1> md5sum should be 2ac1f3e0de626e54d05065d6f549fa3a
[15:41] <rahtgaz> k1l: thank you
[15:41] <dancingd3mon__> what do i need to do to check it ?
[15:41] <dancingd3mon__> I have no idea
[15:42] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: so just md5sum ub144.iso  ; see if it matches
[15:42] <dancingd3mon__> 2ac1f3e0de626e54d05065d6f549fa3a
[15:42] <dancingd3mon__> yeah, It does..
[15:42] <sacarlson1> that's what it is
[15:43] <sacarlson1> ok
[15:43] <sacarlson1> any ideas people?
[15:43] <dancingd3mon__> 2ac1f3e0de626e54d05065d6f549fa3a
[15:43] <dancingd3mon__> dancingdemon@localhost:~$ md5sum /home/ub144.iso
[15:43] <dancingd3mon__> 2ac1f3e0de626e54d05065d6f549fa3a  /home/ub144.iso
[15:43] <dancingd3mon__> can it permission issue?
[15:43] <dancingd3mon__> i guess not..
[15:43] <sacarlson1> maybe try match perms to your other iso
[15:44] <ebony_> how to join channel
[15:44] <dancingd3mon__> how to do this sacarlson1 ?
[15:44] <sacarlson1> man chmod
[15:44] <DJones> ebony_: /join #channelname
[15:45] <dancingd3mon__> I'm sorry what should I do now??
[15:45] <k1l> dancingd3mon__: that iso md5sum is the amd64 14.04.4 server iso
[15:45] <dancingd3mon__> http://prntscr.com/bueyz1
[15:45] <dancingd3mon__> thats the one i downloaded
[15:46] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: I had hoped you would research chmod to find out how to change perms  also look at the perms with ls -l other.iso
[15:46] <k1l> dancingd3mon__: what is the issue with that iso?
[15:46] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/aWeL6DTx
[15:47] <dancingd3mon__> it won't mount for some reason
[15:47] <sacarlson1> k1|  good question I hope you can tell us as another iso mounts ok but this 14.04 will not mount
[15:47] <dancingd3mon__> I knew about the chmod thing sacarlson1 hehe...I just didnt get "man chmod" :( sorry
[15:47] <sacarlson1> k1| I'm runing out of ideas as to how to mount it
[15:47] <dancingd3mon__> mnt2 is for root
[15:47] <dancingd3mon__> should i change it ? or it's good
[15:48] <sacarlson1> no the mnt2 dir worked ok no need to change it
[15:48] <dancingd3mon__> yeah it worked with another iso
[15:48] <dancingd3mon__> weird tbh
[15:48] <ebony_> #ubuntu
[15:49] <ebony_> join #ubuntu
[15:49] <dancingd3mon__>  /j #ubuntu buddy :) and you are already in #ubuntu
[15:49] <DJones> ebony_: You're already in #ubuntu, just ask your supprot question in the channel, if anybody can help, they'll normally answer
[15:49] <sacarlson1> maybe someone with this 14.04 server iso can try mount is on another system to see if works for them
[15:50] <k1l> dancingd3mon__: "sudo mount -o loop /home/ub144.iso /mnt" doesnt work?
[15:50] <sacarlson1> nope
[15:51] <dancingd3mon__> nope
[15:51] <dancingd3mon__> can the iso have some issues or what?
[15:51] <k1l> and are you sure with that paths. because /home/ub.. means it is not in your users home.
[15:52] <sacarlson1> k1| I had him put it there in the root of that partition
[15:52] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/QRibE6dA
[15:52] <k1l> in general "sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso.iso /mount/somewhere" should work
[15:52] <tgm4883> errors?
[15:53] <dancingd3mon__> fmount: mounting /dev/loop0 on /mnt/ failed: Invalid argument
[15:53] <dancingd3mon__> mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on /home/mnt2/ failed: Invalid argument
[15:54] <k1l> what command exact?
[15:54] <someone235> anyone knows how to download dropbox from their site? This link gives me html file: https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[15:54] <tgm4883> dancingd3mon__: can you paste the full terminal output including the command so we can test it?
[15:54] <tgm4883> !pastebin | dancingd3mon__
[15:54] <sacarlson1> k1| we had to use the mount command from buzybox not sure that matters
[15:54] <k1l> busybox?
[15:54] <tgm4883> ...
[15:55] <sacarlson1> k1| yes this system was hosed with no original mount comand
[15:56] <sacarlson1> k1| is it even going to be posible if we can mount this iso to chroot into it and run from here?
[15:56] <k1l> ok, so this is not even a regular ubuntu system?
[15:56] <tatertots> ah i see you guys are still trying to assist dancingd3mon with his disaster recovery. Need to get popcorn
[15:56] <sacarlson1> k1| no this a desparate recovery attempt
[15:57] <k1l> why not making a live-usb and booting that and then chrroting from that live system into the install
[15:57] <sacarlson1> tatertots: ha ha
[15:57] <tatertots> k1l he used apt-get remove *wildcard with a -f force option and removed more than he was intending to remove
[15:58] <dancingd3mon__> k1l, I wish I understand what you said, I always ask the support to install whatever OS I want. I don't know the live-usb and booting thing. It's a dedicated server that I hat
[15:58] <sacarlson1> I'm almost ready to pull the plug or let the next doctor take over
[15:58] <acovrig> I’m trying to install ubutnu server 16.04 from USB; I tried unetbootin from a mac and it gave me a corrupted USB (picked disk check at the grub menu); I tried using the USB disk creator from ubuntu 16.04 desktop and I get a missing isolinux error on boot
[15:58] <dancingd3mon__> sacarlson1, said he got some method that has 20% of working which we trying atm...
[15:58] <dancingd3mon__> but our issue seems weird. Any iso would get mounted but the ubuntu one...
[15:59] <tatertots> it removed WAYYYYY more then he was bargaining for including but not limited to system essential packages
[15:59] <k1l> acovrig: use "dd" on temrinal that will make a 1:1 copy and will not change any system related stuff.
[15:59] <tatertots> his logs were full of warning that he -f forced through like 'warning: this is an essential package; it should not be removed'
[15:59] <tatertots> but since he used -f it removed them
[15:59] <sacarlson1> k1| it's on a virtual box and it has like 20gb data in it
[16:00] <tatertots> he's now in a bad situation and it's a VPS system he has no physical access too
[16:00] <acovrig> k1l: tried that, I pick USB in the boot menu, it hangs on a black screen for ~20s, then reboots
[16:00] <dancingd3mon__> I didn't use -f... I only typed the command line that dude had on his blong to remove something and it did the rest...
[16:00] <tatertots> that's the gist of it
[16:00] <dancingd3mon__> sudo apt-get remove kid3*
[16:00] <OerHeks> tatertots, so what does he expect from you ?
[16:01] <dancingd3mon__> I don't expect anything form him. I'm just seeing if there is any hope that I can fix it without buying a newserver and backing all my data..
[16:01] <tgm4883> I'd ask the VPS company if they could mount the drive on another system
[16:02] <k1l> dancingd3mon__: some hosters have special recoveries. but their functionality differs a lot. its possible you cant mount a loop iso there. i would ask the hosters support what is possible to recover that system
[16:04] <dancingd3mon__> i doubt they can do anything
[16:04] <mcphail> dancingd3mon__: any rason you can't download your data from the server?
[16:05] <dancingd3mon__> but can you tell me what should i ask them exactly?
[16:05] <dancingd3mon__> I can download them but they are 12 TB ...
[16:05] <dancingd3mon__> I will need to backup those first! and to do such a thing, I will need a temporay server
[16:05] <mcphail> dancingd3mon__: fair enough ;)
[16:06] <dancingd3mon__> So there is no hope for sacarlson1 method to work and mount this iso...
[16:06] <tgm4883> I'm not sure what you're trying to gain by mounting the ISO
[16:06] <minimec> dancingd3mon__: Just an idea. If you can still install something, install 'tasksel'. Maybe you can then install the 'Ubuntu Server' package selection. That might save you.
[16:06] <jinxi1> kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-5-1
[16:06] <jinxi1> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:07] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: I have run out of ideas, if it can't mount other than try another iso of a different version if you want
[16:07] <jinxi1> but the package qtbase-abi-5-5-1 is already installed
[16:07] <dancingd3mon__> minimec, can you tell me what exactly to do ?
[16:07] <dancingd3mon__> sacarlson1, I will try someone to download it and mount it and see if it's the busybox mount issue
[16:07] <tgm4883> sacarlson1: what are we trying to do with the mounted ISO
[16:08] <sacarlson1> tgm4883:  run it with chroot
[16:09] <tgm4883> sacarlson1: and? I'm assuming you want to access a working install on that, are the files even expanded on a server ISO?
[16:10] <sacarlson1> tgm4883: we have failed to get mount loop to work on this iso but has worked on others
[16:10] <minimec> dancingd3mon__: 'sudo apt-get install tasksel', then 'sudo tasksel', choose 'Basic Ubuntu Server' and 'OpenSSHServer'. OpenSSh Server is important, because you might loose the connection, if you are connected via ssh.
[16:12] <minimec> dancingd3mon__: Well... If you can install something, it is porbably easier to just 'sudo apt install -reinstall ubuntu-server'.
[16:12] <sacarlson1> tgm4883: if the iso mount worked we would do something like this https://www.offensive-security.com/backtrack/customising-the-backtrack-4-prefinal-iso/
[16:12] <dancingd3mon__> any installation process ends with errors
[16:12] <dancingd3mon__> ....
[16:13] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/2cpXxHxS
[16:13] <tgm4883> sacarlson1: the main problem I see with that is that right in the middle it says "Now you are in the live cd environment", which the server ISO doesn't have
[16:14] <sacarlson1> tgm4883: good point so you think maybe the desktop might work then?  and can you still install a server with a desktop cd?
[16:15] <tgm4883> I digress, I would just ask the VPS if we can setup a new server and mount the current servers disk to the new
[16:16] <sacarlson1> tgm4883: I agree we can pull the plug at any time.  should I call it? 11:16pm bkk time it's dead
[16:16] <tatertots> dancingd3mon have you opened a trouble ticket with your VPS support yet?
[16:16] <tgm4883> sacarlson1: not sure, I think what we're trying to do here is more effort than it's worth
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
        dmesg | tail  or so
[16:16] <sacarlson1> tgm4883: I agree and why we killed it
[16:17] <dancingd3mon__> this is what i guess when mounting the iso on another working server
[16:17] <dancingd3mon__> so the iso itself has issues
[16:17] <afx_> Hello ! what permissions shall I give to a network share i mounted with cifs so that I can create/rename files? I have used this : sudo mount -t cifs -o username=uname,password=passwd,uid=0666,gid=0666 //ip/folder /mnt/point.
[16:17] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: but it matched the md5sum?
[16:17] <dancingd3mon__> it did yeah
[16:17] <dancingd3mon__> same exact one
[16:18] <tgm4883> where did you get the ISO
[16:18] <sacarlson1> I still think we take tgm4883's advice and call it dead and give VPS support a try
[16:19] <dancingd3mon__> from their website
[16:19] <tgm4883> Had we started with that, you might be up and running by now ;)
[16:19] <dancingd3mon__> okay so may I know what exactly to ask them for?
[16:20] <rajuc> Hi all.
[16:21] <rajuc> I am trying to create a qemu img of ubuntu 14.04 using kickstart. I want grub-efi-amd64-bin to be installed in the image and I added that in the kickstart in %packages
[16:21] <rajuc> In the vnc session, I can see it saying Installed grub-efi-amd64-bin
[16:22] <rajuc> But when I launch the img, I cannot find that package there
[16:22] <rajuc> Any pointers ?
[16:22] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: ask them maybe if you can get them to reinstall a system without disturbing the /home partition
[16:23] <tgm4883> dancingd3mon__: "pardon me fine VPS administrators, I seem to have FUBAR'd my virtual server that I have purchased from you. Rather than waste both time and bandwidth by downloading 12TB of data and then uploading 12TB of data, would it be possible to get a new server and have you attach the current servers disk to it, so that I might mount the old disk at
[16:23] <tgm4883> /mnt and copy my data off of it? I promise not to remove all the packages in my VPS this time around."
[16:23] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: and for sure my idea wouldn't have worked as minimaly we would also need to inistall squashfs-tools
[16:24] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: a simple way to try to fix it would be to run a loop that try to install each package in that list, and if it can install 1, then rerun the loop and etc.
[16:24] <tgm4883> EriC^^: I think we're way beyond "a simple fix" at this point
[16:24] <EriC^^> who knows
[16:25] <EriC^^> but i really meant is that it's a quick and easy algorithm to install them in an order that dependencies get installed first
[16:25] <sonu_nk> Hi i am when i am updating my ubuntu os is is showing package system is broken
[16:25] <sonu_nk> wht to do ?
[16:25] <EriC^^> just keep looping and each time what can be installed will get installed (if any can)
[16:25] <tgm4883> EriC^^: well had he reached out to support from the start, he could be up and running by now. The channel has been supporting him for 3 hours now
[16:26] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: would you like to try that?
[16:26] <dancingd3mon__> tgm4883, we were trying some other recovery way...
[16:26] <dancingd3mon__> yes of course
[16:26] <dancingd3mon__> can you tell me what to do ?
[16:26] <sacarlson1> dancingd3mon__: I am still proud to have been a wasted part in on this failed project, all I can say is we tried.
[16:26] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: ok hold on, do you still have the list of packages from that wget command?
[16:26] <dancingd3mon__> yes
[16:26]  * tgm4883 grabs popcorn and sits next to tatertots
[16:27] <sacarlson1> ha ha
[16:27] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/raw/tP8RTauR
[16:27] <tgm4883> wow that's an interesting set of packages for a server install...
[16:28] <brbrbr> hi guys
[16:28] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: ok, try for i in $(cat stuff); do sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall "$i"; done
[16:28] <dancingd3mon__> thank you sacarlson1 anyway :)
[16:28] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: that should loop them once, if any of them actually get installed, then let us know
[16:29] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: the command starts with "for i in ...."
[16:29] <dancingd3mon__> so i cd in stuff folder and run the sudo comman?
[16:29] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: yeah
[16:29] <brbrbr> well, install classic gnome... i need change gnome-panel size, 24px to 32px, i try gconftool-2 but without sucess. Help?
[16:30] <dancingd3mon__> I'm unable to locate the stuff folder for some reason
[16:30] <dancingd3mon__> should i re-download it ?
[16:30] <EriC^^> yeah try to redownload the file
[16:30] <EriC^^> let me try it here in case it has anything
[16:30] <dancingd3mon__> I'm sorry but what the command to write ?
[16:30] <brbrbr> set 32px default option for all users accounts!
[16:30] <EriC^^> wget -O stuff http://pastebin.com/raw/tP8RTauR
[16:31] <dancingd3mon__> done
[16:31] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: it happens here as well, it must be something to do with the file 1 sec
[16:31] <dancingd3mon__> okay
[16:32] <acovrig> k1l: so… I just dd’d the iso over and got the missing isolinux error… I know my ISO is fine, I booted it in a VM and ran the test disk thing and it passed...
[16:32] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: do you have a gui?
[16:32] <dancingd3mon__> the vnc
[16:33] <dancingd3mon__> yeah I'm connected to it
[16:33] <k1l> acovrig: did you dd to sdb or sdb1?
[16:33] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: you're running X?
[16:33] <dancingd3mon__> that is what I'm using atm since SSH is dead
[16:33] <dancingd3mon__> this was the whole issue hehe
[16:33] <acovrig> k1l: sdb
[16:33] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[16:33] <k1l> acovrig: hmm
[16:33] <dancingd3mon__> kid3 said server X wasn't running
[16:33] <dancingd3mon__> so I had to uninstall it
[16:33] <brbrbr> well, install classic gnome... i need change gnome-panel size, 24px to 32px, i try gconftool-2 but without sucess. I need set 32px default option for all users accounts! Help??
[16:34] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: try wget -O stuff2 http://termbin.com/2fcc
[16:34] <acovrig> I guess I need to ask around MAAS (#ubuntu-maas?); I have an ubuntu server VM I can in _theory_ use MAAS to install to a handful of physical servers
[16:34] <minimec> brbrbr: Try to edit '/usr/share/gnome-panel/panel-default-layout.layout' You can set the default size there.
[16:35] <dancingd3mon__> okay downloaded it but still won't let me cd to stuff2
[16:35] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: for i in $(cat stuff2); do sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall "$i"; done
[16:35] <EriC^^> try the above, note the stuff2 not stuff
[16:35] <EriC^^> it's working here after, it was doing the unable to locate earlier
[16:36] <brbrbr> minimec: i try bro
[16:36] <dancingd3mon__> okay so i write the command without cd
[16:36] <dancingd3mon__> starting from i
[16:36] <dancingd3mon__> or for i /
[16:36] <dancingd3mon__> for i in $(cat stuff2); do sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall "$i"; done
[16:36] <dancingd3mon__> exactly like this man?
[16:36] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: yeah
[16:36] <EriC^^> in the same dir you ran the wget command
[16:37] <brbrbr> dist-upgrade holding packages?
[16:38] <sonu_nk> Hi i am when i am updating my ubuntu os is is showing package system is broken
[16:39] <brbrbr> update-manager -d - 14.04 to 16.04 holding packages is possible?
[16:40] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: any luck? did it install anything at all?
[16:40] <dancingd3mon__> i guess not...
[16:40] <dancingd3mon__> error message
[16:40] <dancingd3mon__> keeps showing
[16:40] <EriC^^> try to parse it for "setting up"
[16:40] <EriC^^> try another run with this
[16:41] <dancingd3mon__> so stop this one?
[16:41] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: for i in $(cat stuff2); do sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall "$i"; done > aptlog 2>&1
[16:41] <EriC^^> as you wish
[16:41] <dancingd3mon__> okay doing it
[16:42] <EriC^^> when it's done try grep -i "setting up" aptlog
[16:42] <EriC^^> or grep -i "unpacking" aptlog
[16:42] <dancingd3mon__> sudo for i in $(cat stuff2); do sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall "$i"; done > aptlog 2>&1
[16:42] <dancingd3mon__> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[16:42] <dancingd3mon__> this is what i gues
[16:43] <dancingd3mon__> get*
[16:43] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: remove the sudo from the start
[16:43] <dancingd3mon__> for i in $(cat stuff2); do sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall "$i"; done > aptlog 2>&1
[16:44] <brbrbr> minimec: won't work
[16:44] <dancingd3mon__> dancingdemon@localhost:/$ for i in $(cat stuff2); do sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall "$i"; done > aptlog 2>&1
[16:44] <dancingd3mon__> bash: aptlog: Permission denied
[16:44] <trijntje_> hi all, I ended up with a broken system after upgrading to 16.04. I've lost the GUI completely and it is complaining about broken packages when I try anything with apt. How can I get out of this mess?
[16:44] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: type sudo chmod 777 stuff2
[16:44] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: also the command make it
[16:44] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: for i in $(cat stuff2); do sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall "$i"; done > /tmp/aptlog 2>&1
[16:45] <dancingd3mon__> chmod: cannot access \u2018stuff2\u2019: No such file or directory
[16:45] <number28> Hello
[16:45] <dancingd3mon__> wait
[16:45] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: type sudo -i
[16:45] <dancingd3mon__> i guess its me who fucked up
[16:46] <dancingd3mon__> okay chmod 777 stuff2
[16:46] <dancingd3mon__> now running the same edited command you just sent :)
[16:46] <minimec> brbrbr: This will probably only work for a new user, that newer started a gnome-classic session. Bsides... I was not able to resize my gnome-panel with <alt>right-click > preferences.  So there might be another problem.
[16:46] <number28> Once anyone has a moment I just wondering if someone can help me get my internet up and running.
[16:46] <brbrbr> minimec: i try new user
[16:46] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: ok
[16:46] <brbrbr> minimec: no default 32px like confg say
[16:47] <brbrbr> still 24px
[16:47] <dancingd3mon__> won't do anything. It pauses, let me see if it ends with error or something.
[16:47] <dancingd3mon__> I typed : for i in $(cat stuff2); do sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall "$i"; done > /tmp/aptlog 2>&1
[16:47] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: yeah it wont say anything while it's running
[16:47] <EriC^^> cause it's redirected to /tmp/aptlog
[16:47] <dancingd3mon__> http://prntscr.com/bufr58
[16:47] <dancingd3mon__> oh okay man
[16:47] <minimec> brbrbr: I see. There might be another problem... As mentioned before, I cannot change the size of my gnome-panel either. I use one within a enlightenment e17 session.
[16:47] <sonu_nk> Hi i am facing issue with unmet dependecies http://paste.ubuntu.com/19918717/
[16:48] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: open another terminal and type tail -f /tmp/aptlog
[16:48] <EriC^^> and it should show up while it's running
[16:48] <dancingd3mon__> yup
[16:48] <dancingd3mon__> the loop continues hehe
[16:48] <dancingd3mon__> just sadly same error :(
[16:48] <EriC^^> what error?
[16:49] <brbrbr> minimec: okay... i try gconftools-2
[16:49] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: oh you mean it's running but keeps giving errors?
[16:50] <dancingd3mon__> yup :S
[16:50] <EriC^^> that's ok
[16:50] <|TheWolf|> Hi! I have kind of a weird networking problem: Whenever I connect my Ubuntu server to a (vpnc) VPN, it stops responding to it's public IP address. I can perfectly connect to both the internet and the other machines in the VPN, but I can't ping the it from anywhere outside anymore. Any ideas?
[16:51] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: if it installs a few that would be good
[16:51] <|TheWolf|> What's a bit weird: It's a vServer from a commercial hosting company, and the IP address assigned to eth0 by their install image is a 172... address. However, connecting to its public IP address (132...) works fine before connecting to the VPN
[16:52] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: once it's done let me know
[16:52] <trijntje_> I dont have a gui anymore after upgrading to 16.04, and apt keeps giving dependency errors. What is hte best way to force apt to complete the upgrade?
[16:52] <dancingd3mon__> alright man, thanks a lot
[16:52] <rajuc> Hello, I am trying to create a qemu img of ubuntu 14.04 using kickstart. I want grub-efi-amd64-bin to be installed in the image and I added that in the kickstart in %packages. In the vnc session, I can see it saying Installed grub-efi-amd64-bin but when I launch the img, I don't see the package there. Any pointers what I might be missing ?
[16:52] <dancingd3mon__> its working
[16:53] <dancingd3mon__> I have a question just for the sake of backingup in case this didn;t work.
[16:53] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: it is?
[16:53] <dancingd3mon__> i mean
[16:53] <dancingd3mon__> it's running
[16:53] <EriC^^> oh
[16:53] <EriC^^> :D
[16:53] <dancingd3mon__> but still seeing errors hehe
[16:53] <dancingd3mon__> done
[16:53] <dancingd3mon__> finished
[16:53] <EriC^^> cool
[16:53] <dancingd3mon__> what to do now good man :D?
[16:54] <EriC^^> try grep -i "unpacking" /tmp/aptlog
[16:54] <dancingd3mon__> done this
[16:54] <dancingd3mon__> nothing came but it ran
[16:54] <EriC^^> any results?
[16:54] <dancingd3mon__> like the command showed nothing
[16:54] <dancingd3mon__> nope
[16:55] <EriC^^> try grep -i "setting up" /tmp/aptlog
[16:56] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: what's the prevalent dpkg error?
[16:56] <EriC^^> maybe if you just install "mount" it will start installing stuff fine
[16:57] <dancingd3mon__> Do you want to have a look at /tmp/aptlog?
[16:57] <EriC^^> maybe download the .deb file and extract it and copy over the mount bin so dpkg can do its thing
[16:57] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: sure
[16:58] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: which ubuntu is it?
[16:58] <dancingd3mon__> 14.04 man
[16:58] <EriC^^> ok
[16:59] <EriC^^> !info mount trusty
[17:02] <dancingd3mon__> https://a.uguu.se/PqzHpNgu8OOx_aptlog
[17:02] <dancingd3mon__> this is the aptlog
[17:02] <dancingd3mon__> EriC^^,
[17:02] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: mount deb file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/mount_2.20.1-5.1ubuntu20.7_amd64.deb
[17:03] <dancingd3mon__> i ran that comand
[17:04] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/GQCTycDm
[17:05] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: oh no
[17:05] <maestrojed> Not sure if I screwed up. I have a server. I had updated the root password. Aside from that, I always connect to the server using SSH and have exchanged keys to authenticate as root via ssh. it seems I did not record the password for the root user.... that is what I am worried about.
[17:05] <maestrojed> Since I can log in as root via ssh. Can I change or reset the password without knowing the old one?
[17:06] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: it wasn't a command, hehe
[17:06] <dancingd3mon__> oh okay hehe :D
[17:06] <akik> maestrojed: yes
[17:06] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: download the file with wget
[17:07] <maestrojed> akik just use passwd I guess?
[17:07] <dancingd3mon__> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/mount_2.20.1-5.1ubuntu20.7_amd64.deb
[17:07] <dancingd3mon__> like this man ?
[17:07] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: then do "mkdir /tmp/mount" then "sudo dpkg -x mount_2.20.1-5.1-ubuntu20.7_amd64.deb /tmp/mount
[17:08] <marahin> So, uh.. Am I the only one having issues with chromium-browser scaling on UHD display?
[17:08] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: nevermind the " before sudo there, it's a typo should have another at the end too
[17:08] <akik> maestrojed: yes
[17:08] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: yup
[17:08] <marahin> I made it scale 2, with chromium flags but now both Google search results, and slack, are ginormous.
[17:08] <maestrojed> akik  thanks for the conf. I was nervous
[17:08] <dancingd3mon__> sudo dpkg -x mount_2.20.1-5.1-ubuntu20.7_amd64.deb /tmp/mount
[17:08] <dancingd3mon__> this is the command right?
[17:09] <dancingd3mon__> made the mkdir one :)
[17:09] <FoeHammered> This is partially a sanity check. So, I'm looking for a means to convert .toc to .cue, 'cause I seem to find a lot more support for .cue, and I've got a lot of .toc files. (Old CD format that maintains redbook audio.) First thing I found that converts that direction seemed to be cueconvert, but I downloaded the latest (cuetools apparently), and it doesn't seem to do this. Does this mean that cueconvert no longer does
[17:09] <FoeHammered> what it did as of Trusty, and is not useful to me? Or am I misreading things?
[17:09] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:09] <dancingd3mon__> dpkg-deb: error: failed to read archive `mount_2.20.1-5.1-ubuntu20.7_amd64.deb': No such file or directory
[17:09] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: i've a typo :D
[17:09] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: then do "mkdir /tmp/mount" then "sudo dpkg -x mount_2.20.1-5.1ubuntu20.7_amd64.deb /tmp/mount
[17:10] <dancingd3mon__> done :D
[17:10] <EriC^^> cool
[17:10] <dancingd3mon__> sudo dpkg -x mount_2.20.1-5.1-ubuntu20.7_amd64.deb /tmp/mount
[17:10] <EriC^^> try to cd to /tmp/mount
[17:10] <dancingd3mon__> dancingdemon@localhost:/tmp/mount$ ls -lh
[17:10] <dancingd3mon__> total 12K
[17:10] <dancingd3mon__> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Sep  2  2015 bin
[17:10] <dancingd3mon__> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Jul 18 19:10 sbin
[17:10] <dancingd3mon__> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Sep  2  2015 usr
[17:11] <dancingd3mon__> this is what i see
[17:11] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: ok try sudo cp -a /tmp/mount/bin/mount /bin/mount
[17:11] <EriC^^> also for umount
[17:11] <EriC^^> sudo cp -a /tmp/mount/bin/umount /bin/umount
[17:11] <dancingd3mon__> done
[17:12] <EriC^^> ok, try to install with dpkg and see what happens
[17:12] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install --reinstall mount
[17:12] <dancingd3mon__> http://pastebin.com/ZLmp3zj0
[17:14] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-extra-3.13.0-88-generic
[17:14] <dancingd3mon__> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-extra-3.13.0-88-generic
[17:14] <dancingd3mon__> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[17:14] <dancingd3mon__> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:14] <dancingd3mon__>  linux-image-extra-3.13.0-88-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.13.0-88-generic but it is not going to be installed
[17:14] <dancingd3mon__> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:14] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: ah it's failing on update-initramfs not found
[17:15] <number28> Anyway I can get help restoring network services on ubuntu? I tried all the standard restoration attempts.
[17:15] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: does sudo apt-get -f install help in any way?
[17:16] <dancingd3mon__> sudo apt-get -f install linux-image-extra-3.13.0-88-generic ?
[17:16] <dancingd3mon__> this command man?
[17:16] <dancingd3mon__> nope, no difference
[17:16] <EriC^^> try without linux-image
[17:16] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get -f install
[17:17] <dancingd3mon__>  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[17:17] <dancingd3mon__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:17] <dancingd3mon__>  linux-image-extra-3.13.0-88-generic
[17:17] <dancingd3mon__>  linux-image-3.13.0-88-generic
[17:17] <dancingd3mon__> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[17:18] <number28> Anyone idling care to take a minute and help out?
[17:18] <dancingd3mon__> EriC^^, this is what i get hehe
[17:19] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: i have an idea
[17:19] <ikonia> number28: just ask the question, and if someone can help they will
[17:19] <EriC^^> but something isn't working though
[17:19] <dancingd3mon__> you can teamviewer if you want man and do whatever you want hehe
[17:20] <dancingd3mon__> if it's okay for you
[17:20] <EriC^^> apt-get --print-uris <package> is supposed to return the link to the .deb file, anybody know why it isn't working for me?
[17:20] <number28> ikonia: I attempted to a few times.. just everything get's lost quick in here i thinlk
[17:20] <number28> I'm having trouble connecting to the internet out of nowhere. I restarted services and everything. No dice.
[17:20] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: did you back up your stuff and everything yet?
[17:21] <dancingd3mon__> no nothing
[17:21] <dancingd3mon__> havent started hehe
[17:21] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: you better start :p
[17:21] <dancingd3mon__> lmao okay :D many thanks anyway man!
[17:21] <dancingd3mon__> is there a way to know the size of some files ? as a sum
[17:21] <dancingd3mon__> like i have 900 folders
[17:21] <dancingd3mon__> i have two servers to backup data to, 1 is 8.3 Tb and the other is 1.9 TB
[17:22] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: i was thinking we could write a command that gets all the .deb's for each package in the list
[17:22] <number28> ikonia, anyway you can help for a split second?
[17:22] <dancingd3mon__> would this help?
[17:22] <dancingd3mon__> if yes then why not
[17:22] <EriC^^> and then force dpkg to install all of them
[17:22] <EriC^^> ill brb 1 sec
[17:22] <dancingd3mon__> okay tyt
[17:25] <FoeHammered> On that note, folks, how should I convert .toc to .cue? I've run into a lot of false hopes in that regard so far.
[17:25] <brbrbr> well, install classic gnome... i need change gnome-panel size, 24px to 32px, i try gconftool-2 but without sucess. I need set 32px default option for all users accounts! Help??
[17:25] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: really the best option would be to backup and reinstall i'd think in cases like this
[17:25] <number28> Would someone please help me find a solution to connecting ubuntu to the internet?
[17:26] <number28> Wlan0 wifi interface is up. Networking service was restarted. No connectivity.
[17:26] <tgm4883> number28: can you ping your gateway?
[17:26] <dancingd3mon__> okay man, thanks a million :))
[17:27] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon__: no problem, have a good one :)
[17:27] <number28> tgm4883: I cannot ping anything
[17:27] <tgm4883> number28: error message?
[17:27] <number28> tgm4883: Well unknown host google.com , wouldn't pinging the gateway have the same affect?
[17:28] <tgm4883> number28:
[17:28] <tgm4883> number28: no
[17:28] <tgm4883> number28: can you 'ping 8.8.8.8'
[17:28] <number28> tgm4883: network unreachable
[17:29] <tgm4883> number28: do you have an IP address?
[17:29] <number28> tgm4883: I do not. Nothing listed in ifconfig
[17:30] <tgm4883> number28: this is a standard ubuntu install?
[17:30] <number28> tgm4883: Yeah, It's been working for months. It just stopped working out of no where about 30 minutes ago
[17:31] <tgm4883> number28: home network?
[17:32] <number28> tgm4883: What do you mean exactly? Yeah it's running off home.
[17:32] <tgm4883> number28: wifi/ethernet?  DHCP/Static?
[17:33] <number28> tgm4883: Wifi DHCP
[17:33] <sulle> What program can i use to convert avi / mkv to Mp4 ?.
[17:33] <tgm4883> number28: have you rebooted since it stopped working?
[17:33] <number28> tgm4883: rebooted several times after restarting services didn't work.
[17:35] <tatertots> dancingd3mon ...you still avoiding the inevitable reinstall?
[17:35] <number28> tgm4883: I'm stumped..
[17:35] <tgm4883> number28: Run "sudo dhclient" then see if you get an IP address. I don't recall if that command runs in the background or not, so you might have to wait 30 seconds to check for IP
[17:35] <number28> tgm4883: got it. Running it now.
[17:38] <number28> tgm4883: just awaiting a response right now... i'm assuming it's still running
[17:38] <FoeHammered> Hrm. Nobody here seems to know so far. Perhaps a different question. What program do y'all use to create .cue and .cue.bin from CDs?
[17:38] <tgm4883> number28: OK. once that is done, if you don't have an IP address can you post the link from this command "grep dhclient /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:39] <ankit> login screen blink once. any solution
[17:39] <minimec> number28: Is this on ubuntu 16.04? What i hear is that some people stuggle with wifi in combination with network-manager. Seems to be a heavy bug. One solution could be to install wicd (alternative netowrk manager) and then   disable network-manager with systemd 'sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager.service'. Worth a try I guess...
[17:39] <number28> tgm4883: is termbin going to work?
[17:39] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: I don't anymore, but I always used .ISO files rather than separate .cue and .bin files
[17:39] <noonien> hello folks
[17:39] <tgm4883> number28: lol, good point
[17:39] <noonien> does xenial core not have snappy installed?
[17:39] <tgm4883> number28: so run it without the pipe stuff and look for anything that might be wrong
[17:39] <FoeHammered> tgm4883: Bummer, 'cause I was hoping to put these CDs into storage, and wanted to keep the redbook audio.
[17:40] <ankit> anyone login screen blink once. any solution
[17:40] <number28> minimec: It's 14.04... I never had problems until 30 minutes ago or so when i attempted to print something.
[17:40] <number28> tgm4883: ok
[17:40] <ankit> anyone ubuntu 16.04 login screen blink once. any solution
[17:41] <tatertots> Yo FoeHammered do you have valid reason to not use cdrdao
[17:41] <FoeHammered> tatertots: Naivete?
[17:41] <ankit> hello
[17:42] <tatertots> since some software only likes bin/cue pair..i'm guessing you're trying to backup mixed mode cd's
[17:42] <tatertots> iso and dd only get track 1
[17:42] <FoeHammered> tatertots: Precisely. cdrdao handles .cue, eh?
[17:42] <number28> tgm4883: So it loops with my interfaces and says 'DHCPDISCOVER: on wlan1 255.255.255.255
[17:42] <tatertots> which if what you are trying to do is backup a mixed mode cd is probably why you're asking about bin/cue
[17:42] <Bashing-om> !details | ankit Can you boot to console from the login screen ( ctl+alt+F!) ?
[17:42] <FoeHammered> The one I was using made a bunch of .toc which I found out belatedly almost nothing supports.
[17:43] <rahtgaz> ankit: the login screen blinking once is normal and expected
[17:43] <FoeHammered> tatertots: Yeah, these are some old damn CDs.
[17:43] <liri_> hey everyone
[17:43] <minimec> number28: Ok. I see.
[17:43] <FoeHammered> Apologies. I should watch my language.
[17:43] <ankit> its like first login screen appear and then black screen appear once then again login screen appears
[17:43] <tatertots> use cdrdao and derrive a cue sheet with toc2cue
[17:44] <tatertots> it's part of cdrdao
[17:44] <tatertots> then presto you have your bin cue
[17:44] <tatertots> done
[17:44] <number28> minimec: Yeah, i'm just so lost right now... i can't find anything that would cause this.
[17:44] <Amine_> quit
[17:44] <FoeHammered> OH! I'd been unable to find a toc2cue at ALL.
[17:44] <number28> tgm4883: Anything out of the normal?
[17:44] <ankit> rahtgaz is this normal??
[17:44] <liri_> I know this is not strictly-ubuntu related but I was hoping for some help - got a pre-installed Win10 (BIOS legacy boot mode) and I'm trying to put 16.04 on it. Whichever way I try to install it I always get Win10 to boot and I never see the GRUB boot loader so there's no chance to boot into Linux. Could anyone offer some tips on fixing this?
[17:44] <brbrbr> hi guys
[17:45] <brbrbr> update-manager -d  holding pakages?
[17:45] <tgm4883> number28: sounds like it can't find your DHCP server maybe. Have you tried rebooting your router?
[17:45] <brbrbr> possible upgrade 14.04 to 16.04 holding packages?
[17:45] <rahtgaz> ankit: if for a split second, I would say yes. your graphics adapter may be switching into a new mode or updating some late minute settings. If it takes more than a split second, then no.
[17:46] <ankit> rahtgaz is this normal??
[17:46] <ankit> 1 sec only
[17:46] <tgm4883> brbrbr: you'd be better off stating what your issue is
[17:46] <ankit> not more than that
[17:46] <rahtgaz> ankit: then its normal
[17:46] <ankit> okay boot time is too long around 1 minute
[17:46] <number28> tgm4883: No i havent... I mean, i'm using that router right now to talk to you.. so it shouldn't have any issues?
[17:47] <brbrbr> tgm4883: possible upgrade 14.04 lts and hold all packages?
[17:47] <ankit> rehtgaz is it normal that boot time is around 1 minute??
[17:48] <tgm4883> number28: not necessarily. If the DHCP server on your router got hung up somehow you'd be able work just fine for awhile, then you'd see your devices each stop working as their DHCP leases expired
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> ankit  in a terminal, run this command and disable unwanted services ... sudo sysv-rc-conf
[17:48] <rahtgaz> ankit: boot time depends on your machine. Especially your disk drive speed. Without further details I don't know what to think of your 1 minute long boot time, except that congratulations.
[17:48] <tgm4883> brbrbr: you want to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 and hold all packages?
[17:48] <brbrbr> yes tgm4883
[17:48] <tgm4883> brbrbr: that makes zero sense
[17:48] <brbrbr> kkkk
[17:48] <brbrbr> for u yes
[17:48] <brbrbr> maybe
[17:48] <brbrbr> okay
[17:48] <brbrbr> bye
[17:48] <tgm4883> brbrbr: no, for anyone
[17:48] <number28> tgm4883: Heres the thing tho.. Ubuntu isn't even reading nearby SSID's.. it wont read my wifi or my neighbors..
[17:49] <RoninJin7> I have a laptop with Linux Linpus lite with won't boot the GUI. Only terminal. How do I go about installing Ubuntu?
[17:49] <ankit> MonkeyDust command is not working
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> ankit  define 'not working'
[17:49] <tgm4883> brbrbr: holding all packages and doing an upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 will leave you at 14.04
[17:49] <ankit> command not found
[17:50] <tgm4883> brbrbr: upgrading to 16.04 is by definition upgrading packages
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> ankit  then install it, first
[17:50] <brbrbr> tgm4883: hold installed softwares tgm4883
[17:50] <tgm4883> number28: oh, i thought you said it was connected to your wifi
[17:50] <ankit> i think command does not exist
[17:50] <number28> tgm4883: Oh, no no no.
[17:51] <number28> tgm4883: It's not even identifiying any of the networks.
[17:51] <tgm4883> brbrbr: when you say "hold installed softwares" do you just mean that you want the same packages to already be installed in 16.04 after the upgrade?
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> ankit  i just ran it, here... install it, then run it
[17:51] <ankit> okay
[17:51] <ankit> i am installing
[17:51] <eelstrebor> what do you guys think about running ubuntu on dell inspirons? or should i spend the extra bucks for an xps15?
[17:51] <tatertots> well you're not even connected to anything no wonder it's not getting an address from dhcp
[17:52] <tatertots> < gets more popcorn
[17:52] <john> d
[17:52] <john> d
[17:52] <number28> minimec: Do you have opinion on this matter? Still trying to figure it out
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> eelstrebor  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:52] <safrabods> I have a laptop running 14.04 on a 1545
[17:52] <eelstrebor> huh?
[17:53] <number28> tgm4883: Any idea what i should do?
[17:53] <ankit> MonkeyDust how to enable disable programs and which one??
[17:53] <brbrbr> tgm4883: yes
[17:53] <tgm4883> number28: odd, what changed between it working and not working
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> ankit  in 16.04, run this command, to see what's slow ... make sure you don't disable too much ... system-d-analyze blame
[17:54] <tgm4883> brbrbr: oh, well in that case that is what an upgrade does. Keeps your packages installed
[17:54] <number28> tgm4883: I attempted to print out a PDF form.. That's about it.
[17:54] <ankit> please suggest which one to disable
[17:54] <number28> tgm4883: a few moments later.. no conectivity.
[17:54] <minimec> number28: did you do some updates right before the problem appeared. Booting a previous kernel via 'additional options' in the grub menu could be worth a try.
[17:55] <brbrbr> tgm4883: okay bro... i try here....
[17:55] <number28> tgm4883: That's the only thing i can think of
[17:55] <tgm4883> number28: I'd try the previous kernel as minimec mentioned
[17:55] <number28> minimec: Possibly? I know i ran apt-get update / upgrade earlier today.
[17:56] <number28> tgm4883: Hmm okay.. Is there a easy way of doing this?
[17:57] <minimec> number28: reboot and pres/hold the left <shift>key after your BIOS screen in case you don't get the grub menu during normal boot.
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> ankit  find out which services you don't use, then disable them
[17:58] <number28> minimec: Hmmm.. did nothing, just booted regularly while holding left shift
[17:58] <minimec> number28: You have to be fast... ;) Happens to me too...
[17:59] <ankit> can you help me to figure out, i don't know which one to disable
[17:59] <number28> minimec: okay i got it
[17:59] <number28> minimec: Indeed, you do gotta be fas.t.. so advanced options?
[18:00] <minimec> number28: right...
[18:01] <noonien> how does one install a package in a xenial-core chroot using snappy?
[18:01] <number28> minimec: 4.2.0-41 generic, or generic (recovery) OR 4.2.0-36 generic or generic (recovery)
[18:01] <minimec> number28: just the next lower kernel version that is available.
[18:02] <minimec> number28: so problably .36
[18:02] <number28> minimec: Unfortunately i don't know which i was at
[18:02] <number28> minimec: Okay.
[18:02] <number28> minimec: Do i want to do generic or recovery mode?
[18:02] <minimec> number28: generic
[18:03] <Lectro> hi
[18:03] <Lectro> can someone help me?
[18:04] <number28> minimec: mi8042: no controller found , then alerted me it was in low graphics.. can't select anything with keyboard
[18:05] <EriC^^> !ask | Lectro
[18:05] <asdf-> i screwed up a partition table. I backed it up with dd to an img file... I've been trying various tutorials on how to recover the data but nothing has worked... can anyone recommend anything?
[18:05] <Lectro> I've been trying to install the library "lib32ncurses5" to root my Android. I put in the console this "sudo apt-get install lib32ncurses5" but it drops me this error "Unable to locate package lib32ncurses5"
[18:05] <Lectro> Thanks
[18:05] <EriC^^> asdf-: try testdisk
[18:05] <asdf-> thank you
[18:06] <EriC^^> asdf-: no problem
[18:06] <minimec> number28: ok. THat should not happen normally, as the old kernel is kept in case of kernel  problems. So do a reboot. you can switch to a console with <ctrl><alt>F1, then login with your username and then 'sudo reboot'
[18:08] <number28> minimec: Doesn't allow me to ctrl alt f1 sadly.
[18:08] <number28> minimec: Gonna try again, maybe select recoverY?
[18:09] <minimec> number28: recovery will give you a console menu for debugging... We don't need 'recovery mode' I think.
[18:11] <number28> minimec: Well i mean.. I just don't know what to do here... I suppose i can just do a clean install...
[18:11] <number28> minimec: however seems like a big jump to erase everything because my interface cant connect to anything
[18:12] <Bashing-om> asdf-: Have you trid sparring oif the super block from backups ? MBR method : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177756 .
[18:12] <minimec> number28: I would'nt go so far. First check other possible reasons.
[18:12] <minimec> number28: I agree 100%.
[18:13] <liri_> guys - any chance to get help on booting Linux? I installed it as dualboot on an existing Windows 10 yet I cant get grub to load at all
[18:13] <number28> minimec: How about the /etc/hosts file? I VIM'd into it earlier to check it out. Didn't touch anything tho
[18:13] <WPX> Hello :) .. I need your help please :) .. I have Digital ocean droplet with ubuntu 14.04 server .. everything was working fine.
[18:13] <liri_> already disabled windows 10 fast boot and all that. Windows is configured to use BIOS legacy boot (not UEFI)
[18:13] <Lectro> how can I exit after doing Ctrl + Alt + F1
[18:13] <Lectro> ?
[18:13] <WPX> I tried to install imagemagick with this command "aptitude install php-pear imagemagick php5-dev libmagick9-dev"
[18:14] <heaerk> did you switch the boot order back?
[18:14] <liri_> Lectro: press CTRL + ALT + F8 it'll get back to the GUI
[18:14] <number28> minimec: my first line is "::1 ipv6-localhost ip6-loopback" not sure if thats different or not
[18:14] <Lectro> ok thanks
[18:14] <Bashing-om> Lectro: What do you want to exit to ? where to go when the terminal session is ended ?
[18:14] <WPX> then .. i dont know what happened ! if i tried to open my website .. the php not executed .. it just show me the php code of the paeg
[18:15] <liri_> heaerk: whats the boot order to switch back? I looked at grub config with the live usb - the default is 0 but there's also a timeout set there to 10 seconds, yet I don't see anything
[18:15] <WPX> any help please?
[18:15] <minimec> number28: Oh.... A default host file should look like this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/19929763/
[18:15] <liri_> WPX: what web server are you running?
[18:15] <minimec> number28: change YOURDEVICENAME with your computers name.
[18:15] <liri_> WPX: seems like maybe you've lost the php interpreter setup
[18:15] <Lectro> Bashing-om: Don't worry, liri_ has responded me
[18:16] <Lectro> i dont know if responded is the verb in english lol
[18:16] <WPX> liri_:  Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-57-generic x86_64)
[18:16] <number28> minimec: Yeah, no we are good there too.
[18:16] <Bashing-om> !cookie | liri_
[18:16] <heaerk> liri_: what kind of partitioning did you use?
[18:16] <liri_> thanks :)
[18:17] <liri_> just help me out with this dual boot thing, I'm on this the whole day!
[18:17] <WPX> liri_: thanks for reply .. what should i do to restore my server ? to the previous status ?
[18:17] <Lectro> I have another question, I've tried to install the library lib32ncurses5 but it has changed the name, which is its actual name?
[18:17] <WPX> liri_:  Server version Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-57-generic x86_64)
[18:17] <liri_> heaerk: there's just one disk (/dev/sda), I put linux in a logical partition /dev/sda5 as / and /dev/sda6 as swap (/dev/sda4 is the logical)
[18:17] <number28> minimec: Well unfortunately i do have to go for a hour.. i suppose if i can't find a solution when i get back i'll just attempt to format. Not that i expect you to be putting any further effort, but if something does hit you within the next hour or so i'll check my IRC messages when i get back.
[18:18] <liri_> WPX: that's the OS. what exactly is the problem? are you running a web server to serve website content?
[18:18] <number28> minimec: and thank you for taking the time to speak with me
[18:18] <trism> Lectro: apt-cache search -n lib curses;
[18:18] <minimec> number28: ok. no problem. su.
[18:18] <WPX> liri_: yes .. it is digital ocean droplet
[18:18] <number28> minimec: I hope to pass the karma
[18:18] <Lectro> trism: ok thank you
[18:18] <heaerk> liri_: I think you need a separate /boot partition for dual-boot
[18:18] <Bashing-om> liri_: I am not Windows literate .. however. will be instructive to know the partiitoning on the hard drive(s) show the channel in a pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' .
[18:18] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 boot gray screen stay upto 50 sec
[18:19] <liri_> WPX: ahh, hosted ok. what changes did you do recently? can you tell us more about the issue? environment etc
[18:19] <ankit> slow boot
[18:19] <ankit> anyone help
[18:20] <liri_> heaerk: it's needed? :) so just to create another partition as logical?
[18:20] <WPX> liri_:  everything was working fine.
[18:20] <WPX> I tried to install imagemagick with this command "aptitude install php-pear imagemagick php5-dev libmagick9-dev"
[18:20] <tgm4883> ankit: 'systemd-analyze blame'
[18:20] <WPX> liri_: then .. i dont know what happened ! if i tried to open my website .. the php not executed .. it just show me the php code of the page
[18:20] <WPX> liri_:
[18:20] <WPX> root@LampDrop:~# apache2 -v
[18:20] <WPX> Server version: Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu)
[18:20] <WPX> Server built:   Oct 14 2015 14:20:21
[18:20] <heaerk> liri_: sorry, just did some research, you used ubuntu's auto-partition "build alongside..." option?
[18:20] <liri_> heaerk: do I need to set any other partition as the bootable flag or that doesn't matter?
[18:21] <ankit> tgm4883 its a long list
[18:21] <liri_> heaerk: I tried that at first, and I also tried to manually create the partitions, neither seemed to work
[18:21] <tgm4883> ankit: yes, whats at the top
[18:21] <heaerk> liri_: you might also want to try redoing the install, but booting the installer with uefi
[18:22] <liri_> heaerk: why does the UEFI matter? windows 10 is installed in bios legacy mode, it doesn't use uefi either
[18:22] <liri_> WPX: seems that by installing it maybe it changed some apache2 config for you to run PHP files
[18:22] <ankit> tgm4883 http://paste.ubuntu.com/19930708/
[18:22] <WPX> liri_: so, what is the solution pleasE?
[18:22] <heaerk> liri_: I dunno, linux is still a mysterious, magical creature to me, lol. I just remember that I had issues with ubuntu when it wasn't UEFI
[18:23] <heaerk> liri_: is it 16.04?
[18:23] <ankit> tgm4883 what to do??
[18:23] <liri_> WPX: so many things can go wrong there I'm not sure but I think you'll get more help in either #apache or #php
[18:23] <liri_> heaerk: yep
[18:24] <ankit> tgm4883 networking.service is at top
[18:24] <mchelen2> in 16.04 my videos player (totem) is not resuming playback, and i don't see any such option in preferences. any ideas?
[18:24] <heaerk> liri_: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2325098
[18:25] <ankit> tgm4883 any suggestion??
[18:26] <akik> liri_: you don't need a separated partition for /boot. where did you install grub during the install?
[18:26] <futurama140> I'm using ubuntu 16.04 with cinnamon 3 and I'm having this issue: there is a ghosting that happens frequently where my desktop icons have a second image slightly off from where the actual icon is, and sometyimes my icons just move off screen. I run two monitors of different sizes and the icons randomly move to an are off of the smaller screen that would exist if the screen was the same size as the larger one. can anyone help?
[18:26] <liri_> akik: install it to /dev/sda (its the only disk I have anyway)
[18:26] <heaerk> akik: it does it automatically during install
[18:27] <liri_> akik: I'll boot in a few minutes into the live usb to give you guys some output from it
[18:27] <ankit> tgm4883 u there???
[18:27] <EriC^^> "'
[18:27] <tgm4883> ankit: how long does it take you to boot
[18:27] <akik> liri_: and you don't get grub shown at all during the boot?
[18:27] <ankit> 1 min around
[18:27] <liri_> akik: exactly
[18:27] <tgm4883> ankit: how are you connected to the network?
[18:27] <ankit> wifi
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> ankit  here too, about 1 min, i guess it's normal
[18:28] <liri_> akik: in bios I disabled UEFI boot entirely, it's legacy now and windows 10 boots fine (it was with hybrid UEFI mode before and no grub either)
[18:28] <ankit> ohh
[18:28] <ankit> but its too long for boot
[18:29] <ankit> 10-15 sec max
[18:29] <akik> liri_: you can reinstall grub from the live session but i wonder if it'll help if it just does the same thing
[18:29] <ankit> tgm4883 any suggestion??
[18:29] <liri_> akik: right. I re-installed grub from the live session like 3 times now, to no avail. Windows 10 keeps booting up as it if doesn't care
[18:30] <jancoow> Hi there. Just little question. When i want to open a socket, and i fill in localhost or 127.0.0.1 , i can't connect to this socket from outside the pc
[18:30] <OerHeks> ankit, this is normal, if you set your wifi connection 'for all users'..
[18:30] <akik> liri_: did you use grub-install /dev/sda ?
[18:30] <jancoow> how can i do this :/
[18:30] <liri_> akik: that too at some point, yeah
[18:30] <jancoow> it worked before ;p
[18:30] <ankit> okay thanks
[18:32] <futurama140> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with cinnamon 3 and I'm having this issue: there is a ghosting that happens frequently where my desktop icons have a second image slightly off from where the actual icon is, and sometimes my icons just move off screen. I run two monitors of different sizes and the icons randomly move to an are off of the smaller screen that would exist if the screen was the same size as the larger one. can anyone help?
[18:33] <peterrp81> #ubuntu-no
[18:34] <peterrp81> irc.freenode.net #ubuntu-no
[18:36] <peterrp81> how can i access another network?
[18:36] <peterrp81> #ubuntu-no
[18:36] <Pici> peterrp81: 1) you're on freenode right now. 2) just type /join #ubuntu-no
[18:40] <jebog> hello
[18:41] <liri_> akik: any other tips?
[18:43] <akik> liri_: no idea why it doesn't boot grub
[18:43] <liri_> akik: ok... thanks
[18:43] <akik> liri_: why did you say that you used grub-install /dev/sda at some point?
[18:44] <akik> liri_: what other things did you try?
[18:44] <liri_> akik: just another attempt to try and install it as I thought maybe windows removed it
[18:44] <futurama140> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with cinnamon 3 and I'm having this issue: there is a ghosting that happens frequently where my desktop icons have a second image slightly off from where the actual icon is, and sometimes my icons just move off screen. I run two monitors of different sizes and the icons randomly move to an are off of the smaller screen that would exist if the screen was the same size as the larger one. can anyone help?
[18:44] <n99b> hi i have just gotten ubuntu how do i log in?
[18:44] <liri_> akik: I just re-installed 16.04 again with "along side windows 10" and again - windows boots directly with no grub showing up
[18:45] <TheCynosure> Hi, if I have Windows and Ubuntu Dual booted alongside each other and I can separately boot into both OS's using the BIOS screen is there any way that I can get a GRUB screen to appear that lets me choose which OS I want without a reinstall?
[18:47] <Bashing-om> TheCynosure: What results bootd ubuntu with terminal command ' sudo update-grub ' where the expected result is to chainload Windows to the grub boot menu . Separate hard drives, right .. where Windows' boot code is on the respective Windows hard drive ?
[18:48] <akik> liri_: ok i don't use those automatic partition tools. when you manually make the partitions, there's a choice for selecting the grub install location
[18:48] <liri_> akik: and what should I do there?
[18:49] <akik> liri_: well there's a choice for putting grub into the beginning of your disk, /dev/sda
[18:49] <TheCynosure> Bashing-om: The OS's are on the same drive and I am trying to help someone with getting their computer to work so I can't execute the bootd command. I might just have to send him here and have him ask for you
[18:50] <akik> liri_: maybe the installation expects a uefi setup ?
[18:50] <liri_> akik: nah because its starting in legacy mode
[18:52] <Bashing-om> TheCynosure: I am not Windows literate . Being only one hard drive, and ibuntu installed .. then it is ubuntu's boot code that has jusristiction as Windows does not speak ubuntu, but ubuntu will honor Windows booting .
[18:52] <TheCynosure> Bashing-om: Ok thx
[18:53] <Bashing-om> TheCynosure: By all means if there is a problem .. send your friend here and we see what we can do to get the boot situation corrected .
[18:55] <nikitha> unable to mount external disk though showing in usb list, im using vbox 5.0.18 (  guest: win7 ult 32bit )
[18:55] <TheCynosure> Bashing-om: Sending him now
[18:56] <akik> liri_: i think one more live session, mounting the root partition, chroot, mounting the special directories and grub-install /dev/sda could do it
[18:57] <akik> liri_: mounting the special directories before chroot that is
[18:57] <liri_> akik: if you want I will give you root access remotely to the live session :)
[18:57] <akik> liri_: no don't do that
[18:57] <liri_> akik: you mean /dev /proc etc right? tried that before too :(
[18:57] <akik> liri_: never give access to unknown people
[18:58] <liri_> but I know you, you're akik
[18:58] <liri_> :)
[18:58] <akik> liri_: /dev, /dev/pts, /proc and /sys
[18:59] <liri_> akik: we mount the special partitions first, then chroot right?
[18:59] <liri_> *special directories I mean
[18:59] <akik> liri_: yes
[19:00] <liri_> did it before but I'll try once more
[19:02] <newbie|2> To open a tar.gz and the subsequent installation ... anyone wanna help?
[19:03] <Bashing-om> liri_: A thought in this full CHange Root :You need to use dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc instead of grub-install directly, so that the system knows that it needs to run grub-install on that drive the next time grub is upgraded.
[19:05] <Bashing-om> liri_: Wait ! The above is for MBR booting for grub ,, the structure for EFI is different !
[19:06] <liri_> akik, Bashing-om -  I'm on the live cd now. take a look at the current disk stats in my pastebin.com: http://pastebin.com/qW2kHH2T
[19:06] <Bashing-om> liri_: Look'n .
[19:07] <liri_> Bashing-om: I'm not doing EFI though... I'm doing plain old MBR as far as I can tell
[19:07] <platz> Is there any way to transparently "tunnel" a usb device (keyboard) through ubuntu so that we have [keybd] -> [ubuntu box] -> [target box] such that [target box] just thinks it's using the keyboard directly?
[19:09] <newbie|2> I did tar -zxvf tarball.tar.gz.  I got into the directory "iron-linux-64".  I can't figure out the next step.  Nothing to ./configure, nothing to make, nothing to sudo make install
[19:10] <akik> newbie|2: what is the application?
[19:10] <Bashing-om> liri_: Yeah .. MBR -- the above is good .. make sure that the grub install is to 'sda' .
[19:10] <liri_> ok so let me do that again and send you the logs in pastebin too
[19:11] <newbie|2> sr ware iron.  An option for Google chrome that doesn't store your personal info and the like
[19:11] <newbie|2> akik: sr ware iron.  A browser to avoid google's habit of storing your personal info and history
[19:11] <akik> newbie|2: where can i download that tar?
[19:12] <Bashing-om> liri_: Bear in mind that I do multi-boot, and I have messed up grub to the point that I have had to purge grub completely and start all over from scratch .
[19:12] <\9> newbie|2: so what is in there?
[19:13] <newbie|2> akik: http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php
[19:13] <newbie|2> \9: What is in what?
[19:13] <OerHeks> newbie|2, no need to build, wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/srwareiron/ bla bla iron.deb  and run sudo gdebi iron.deb
[19:13] <akik> there you go :)
[19:13] <newbie|2> OerHeks: Ok.  Thx.  Didn'(t see that before
[19:14] <newbie|2> OerHeks: Just clicked on your link.  Said page not found
[19:14] <ioria> newbie|2, ./iron
[19:15] <akik> newbie|2: http://www.srware.net/downloads/iron64.deb
[19:16] <liri_> akik Bashing-om  take a look at my grub install: http://pastebin.com/xKWvdx5J
[19:16] <liri_> scroll down to the end
[19:17] <ioria> liri_,  run again  update-grub
[19:17] <newbie|2> akik: Thx
[19:17] <Bashing-om> liri_: Look'n .
[19:17] <newbie|2> Bye everyone
[19:17] <liri_> ioria: ok, ran it again
[19:17] <liri_> seems ok
[19:18] <liri_> anything else I'm missing?
[19:19] <alkisg> liri_: and after all these commands that you've ran, what's the actual issue left? It won't boot? With what message?
[19:19] <liri_> alkisg: the issue is that windows 10 just boots directly. I can't boot into linux as I don't have this option (no grub or any other boot manager to let me do it)
[19:20] <akik> liri_: you should try a boot again now
[19:20] <ioria> liri_,  you should paste your last update-grub
[19:20] <alkisg> liri_: after that last command, i.e. while still inside the chroot, also try: dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[19:20] <alkisg> This will also update the debconfig variables
[19:20] <liri_> ioria: its the same, nothing change from the one before it that it is in the paste
[19:20] <ioria> liri_,  so no win
[19:21] <akik> alkisg: what does that dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc do?
[19:21] <ioria> liri_,  no, sorry yes
[19:21] <liri_> ioria: no? :(
[19:21] <ioria> liri_,  yes, yes ... :þ
[19:21] <liri_> heh ok
[19:21] <liri_> should I try the dpkg-reconfigure thing?
[19:21] <ioria> liri_,  reboot first
[19:21] <alkisg> akik: it calls the postinst script for grub installation, which presents a menu and asks there user where to install grub etc
[19:22] <liri_> ok so all done with the live usb?
[19:22] <dancingd3mon__> can someone explain this to me :
[19:22] <dancingd3mon__> would it be possible to get a new server and have you attach the current servers disk to it, so that I might mount the old disk at /mnt and copy my data off of it? I promise not to remove all the packages in my VPS this time around."
[19:23] <dancingd3mon__> I fucked up my server and people advised me to do a fresh install. Now I have 12 tb of data.
[19:23] <dancingd3mon__> someone suggested this so what does he mean ? can someone explain it?
[19:23] <nicomachus> !language | dancingd3mon__
[19:23] <dancingd3mon__> oh sorry
[19:23] <Pici> dancingd3mon__: explain what?
[19:24] <dancingd3mon__> i dont understand what he asked me to do
[19:24] <dancingd3mon__> so what should i ask the staff to do ?
[19:24] <Pici> dancingd3mon__: which part?
[19:24] <ioria> liri_,  if you wanted to reinstall grub, yes... exit unmount and reboot
[19:24] <dancingd3mon__> the moung the old disk at /mnt
[19:24] <dancingd3mon__> mount*
[19:25] <Pici> dancingd3mon__: thats either something that the VPS support people will do, or they will provide you with instructions to do that.
[19:25] <Pici> dancingd3mon__: may I ask who you have the VPS purchased through?
[19:25] <dancingd3mon__> eqservers, ever heard about them?
[19:26] <dancingd3mon__> I'm not sure this will work though..
[19:26] <liri_> ioria: no luck :(
[19:26] <liri_> windows 10 boots directly again
[19:26] <liri_> I've never had this much pain installing linux, this is beyond suffer
[19:26] <dancingd3mon__> But I still don't understand. He wants me to ask the staff to get a new server and attach the current server disks to it.
[19:26] <Pici> dancingd3mon__: pretty much.
[19:26] <dancingd3mon__> this part i understand...what is the rest ?
[19:27] <ioria> liri_,   i saw a sdc  ...  what is it ?
[19:27] <liri_> ioria: I think its the usb because its 8gb
[19:27] <dancingd3mon__> where is my ubuntu installed at ? They always do the installation part so I'm confused. All I know is that I have 11 tb for me and the root got 40 gb.
[19:27] <ioria> liri_,   and sdb ?
[19:27] <alkisg> liri_: did you boot with the usb stick again?
[19:27] <liri_> ioria: no idea, maybe some windows thing?
[19:27] <ioria> liri_,    g
[19:27] <tgm4883> dancingd3mon__: you would need to get another server
[19:27] <Pici> dancingd3mon__: If you're paying them, why not contact them for support and explain the situation?
[19:27] <ioria> liri_,    32 G
[19:27] <liri_> alkisg: what do you mean? no I removed the USB stick
[19:28] <ioria> liri_,    ATA LITEONIT LSS-32L (scsi)
[19:28] <liri_> ioria: I've no idea what that is
[19:28] <dancingd3mon__> I did. It was you tgm4883 who suggested this, right?
[19:28] <ioria> liri_,   well, its iin parted -l ...
[19:28] <tgm4883> dancingd3mon__: yes
[19:28] <dancingd3mon__> Will they ask me to pay for the new server ? I just need to backup the data.
[19:28] <alkisg> liri_: put the usb stick back in, boot with it, then install the kvm package while still on the usb environment, and finally run: sudo kvm -m 1024 /dev/sdb ==> this will boot your disk and will tell you if it's a grub issue or a bios/uefi/another disk issue
[19:29] <tgm4883> dancingd3mon__: that's a question for them, probably
[19:29] <liri_> alkisg: what does that do?
[19:29] <ioria> liri_,   not bear metal ?
[19:29] <dancingd3mon__> May I understand what you meant? like if they will attach my HDDs to a new server, now after installing the newserver, I backup the data folders only and delete the rest or what?
[19:29] <tgm4883> dancingd3mon__: the point was to scrap the old server and prevent you from having to download and then upload 12 TB of data
[19:30] <liri_> ioria: its a laptop
[19:30] <dancingd3mon__> so like they do it all from their side?
[19:30] <alkisg> liri_: kvm is something like virtualbox, if you heard of it. It emulates a pc trying to boot with your disk, but it makes sure that it boots the correct disk, so we don't need to check for other unrelated parameters that might affect your boot
[19:30] <dancingd3mon__> Are there any VPS providers that actually do this?
[19:30] <tgm4883> dancingd3mon__: you setup the new server how you want, you then copy only the data you need from the /mnt folder to wherever you need this
[19:30] <alkisg> liri_:  I.e. after you've done that, we'll be sure it's a grub issue only
[19:30] <tgm4883> dancingd3mon__: all they would do is connect the disk to the new server
[19:30] <alkisg> liri_: it doesn't modify your disk
[19:31] <ioria> liri_,   ok, but you should know what sdb is
[19:31] <liri_> maybe its just some ssd drive on the laptop?
[19:31] <zaphona> Hello guys, quick question - I try to disable network-manager in ubuntu 16 but I get this: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[19:31] <zaphona> the quick question is: y?
[19:31] <liri_> alkisg: ok, let me try
[19:32] <minimec> zaphona: How do you disable it?
[19:32] <liri_> alkisg: so is it /dev/sdb or /dev/sda for the kvm tool?
[19:32] <dancingd3mon__> so they will mount my home directory to /mnt, then they are supposed to unplug the HDDs and put them in a new server ?
[19:32] <liri_> im on the live usb environment again
[19:32] <zaphona> just simply sudo stop network-manager
[19:33] <dancingd3mon__> I mean, eventually I should be using my same server. I don't think they will give me a brand new server!
[19:33] <alkisg> liri_: wherever your disk is, fdisk says that's in sda, right?
[19:33] <dancingd3mon__> and like they fix that themselves...
[19:33] <liri_> alkisg: right
[19:33] <cecunguk> (Ask) recently i use sublime-text3 for edit css file, but sublime was crash and i restart my laptop. When reopen css file, there is no code in css file. How to recovery that ? Help me please thanks ;(
[19:33] <dancingd3mon__> the recovery operation will end with me using my exact server and exact IP but with my old HDDs mounted in /mnt .
[19:33] <liri_> alkisg: I did that and I get the grub menu
[19:34] <alkisg> liri_: ok, close it
[19:34] <liri_> alkisg: can I actually boot the OS from it? :)
[19:34] <minimec> zaphona: use 'sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager.service'. To disable it permanentely: 'sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager.service'.
[19:34] <dancingd3mon__> or a new server and the old one wouldn't work for me anymore.
[19:34] <alkisg> liri_: you can boot linux, but don't boot windows because it will try to install the drivers for the kvm hardware
[19:34] <alkisg> liri_: so now you know that it's not a grub issue anymore
[19:34] <liri_> alkisg: ok cool
[19:34] <alkisg> liri_: it can be another disk, or a bios/uefi setting etc
[19:35] <zaphona> minimec: thx
[19:35] <minimec> zaphona: Obviously start/enable will revert your previous commands
[19:35] <akik> alkisg: does it mean that his machine tries to boot off /dev/sdb ?
[19:35] <zaphona> though so :)
[19:35] <alkisg> akik: liri_: not sure, what is /dev/sdb? Is it a blueray drive?
[19:35] <liri_> alkisg: can it be windows erasing mbr, moving grub out, or something annoying like that?
[19:36] <roberto_> la pazza gioia
[19:36] <liri_> alkisg: i tried it with the kvm . it just tries to boot ipxe or whatever, doesnt seem to be anything useful
[19:36] <alkisg> liri_: no, I've never heard of windows moving mbr at boot. Only when formatting, upgrading windows versions etc
[19:37] <roberto_> la pazza gioia
[19:37] <liri_> alkisg: so this is definitely not windows doing anything silly? I saw some stackoverflow answers on doing fixmbr on windows, bcdedit etc to change stuff
[19:37] <alkisg> liri_: all those are after mbr, and your windows starts before the sda mbr is even read
[19:37] <alkisg> liri_: what kind of system is that? E.g. a weird laptop?
[19:37] <liri_> alkisg: so its some bios setting maybe that I need to look?
[19:38] <liri_> alkisg: hp elitebook 840 g1
[19:38] <alkisg> liri_: if you go to its bios settings, do you find a way to change the boot sequence, or some way to disable sdb?
[19:38] <liri_> let me see
[19:39] <sanou> hello world
[19:39] <Mdxxx> q
[19:39] <liri_> oh weird! I see Fast Boot enabled on the bios
[19:39] <liri_> even though I disabled that before
[19:39] <alkisg> Also check if uefi is enabled (it shouldn't be, if you're using mbr...)
[19:40] <liri_> I disabled uefi before
[19:40] <alkisg> Disable fastboot, secure boot and the like
[19:40] <liri_> disabled fast boot on bios again, then rebooted and windows boots directly still
[19:40] <sanou> hacking
[19:40] <liri_> alkisg: I'm going to go into the bios again to see what else I could be missing there
[19:40] <alkisg> liri_: also check if fastboot remained disabled
[19:40] <OerHeks> !info axe
[19:41] <liri_> alkisg: fast boot turned on again after windows 10 booted up
[19:41] <liri_> alkisg: ahh no, sorry it's floppy boot
[19:41] <liri_> alkisg: my bad
[19:41] <sanou> alking
[19:41] <Zgan> hello
[19:41] <sanou> zgan hello
[19:41] <Zgan> sanou: how are you
[19:42] <sanou> yes
[19:42] <sanou> im fine
[19:42] <sanou> and you
[19:42] <sanou> zgan
[19:42] <alkisg> liri_: usually f11 or f12 bring up the boot manager, where you can select which disk to boot from
[19:42] <sanou> alkisg
[19:42] <sanou> hello
[19:43] <sanou> salut mon amis
[19:43] <liri_> alkisg: changed a bunch of settings and didnt help still. gonna check some more with f11 too to see what wins we can get there
[19:43] <sanou> liri salut tu va bien ce comment tu va bien
[19:44] <AirPlanes> hi.
[19:44] <AirPlanes> how do i change terminal mouse?
[19:44] <AirPlanes> it's bad!
[19:44] <elias_a> alkisg: Καλό βράδυ! (Sorry folks this is an old joke that I always greet alkisg in greek even though I do not speak greek.)
[19:45] <alkisg> elias_a: hyvää yötä! :)
[19:45] <sanou> airplanes hello
[19:45] <elias_a> alkisg: :)
[19:45] <sanou> elias hello
[19:45] <AirPlanes> It's hard to scroll
[19:45] <AirPlanes> so hard to scroll in terminal
[19:46] <sanou> trojan
[19:46] <roberto_> the revenant
[19:46] <elias_a> alkisg: Oh - now that you are here, I'd like to tell you about an installation bug in 16.04 that might cause you problems, too.
[19:46] <liri_> alkisg: pressing f11 / f12 I only get windows 10 boot manager option (its not grub, I think its windows boot manager)
[19:47] <Guest13879> Hey Guys :)
[19:47] <akik> liri_: windows boot manager is nowadays hidden by default
[19:47] <alkisg> liri_: it does sound a bit like uefi to me. Can you let windows boot, and then check from the windows computer properties if it booted in uefi or not?
[19:47] <sanou> hh
[19:47] <sanou> boot
[19:48] <sanou> unbuntu is good
[19:48] <elias_a> alkisg: If you use the standard live-dvd-usb-image and select finnish keyboard _before_ you start installation program, the installation installs a non-bootable system.
[19:48] <sanou> salut mes le  svn co http://svn.aircrack-ng.org/trunk/ aircrack-ng
[19:49] <sanou> pour faire de pirate de wifi
[19:49] <alkisg> elias_a: liri_'s hard disk is bootable with kvm, but it seems like his bios bypasses his mbr
[19:49] <sanou> sur ubuntu nous la
[19:49] <akik> !fr | sanou
[19:49] <royiv_> Hi ##ubuntu; would anyone here know who is responsible for ntp.ubuntu.com? (Your server seems to be flaking.)
[19:49] <elias_a> alkisg: Another prerequisite: I have found this behaviour only when installing keeping old /home.
[19:49] <sanou> moi je parler que français
[19:50] <sanou> hello world
[19:50] <roberto_> la pazza gioia
[19:50] <sanou> roberto
[19:50] <elias_a> alkisg: Yes - just wanted to say as the bug might pop up also if one uses greek keyboard. :)
[19:50] <OerHeks> elias_a, file a bugreport then, as you found already the finnish/english keyboard issue
[19:50] <akik> !fr | sanou ./a.out
[19:51] <elias_a> OerHeks: I'd like someone to verify it. I don't have any spare disk space left at the moment.
[19:51] <sanou> ok
[19:51] <ioria> liri_,   are you sure you're booting from ATA HGST HTS725050A7 ? check bios
[19:51] <sanou> whats news
[19:51] <elias_a> OerHeks: And the dudes on the finnish chan haven't tested it either.
[19:52] <liri_> ioria: alkisg  - I found this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HP_EliteBook_840_G1
[19:52] <alkisg> elias_a: I haven't seen that issue, even though I always select greek at syslinux (=cd menu) so it's already preselected later on at ubiquity (=installer)
[19:53] <ioria> liri_,   you're not using uefi
[19:53] <alkisg> liri_: did you verify that your computer boots in uefi mode?
[19:53] <alkisg> (in windows)
[19:53] <AirPlanes> It's hard to scroll
[19:53] <liri_> as far as I can tell it's not booting in uefi mode
[19:53] <AirPlanes> so hard to scroll in terminal
[19:53] <AirPlanes> hi ribasushi
[19:53] <AirPlanes> hi ribh00
[19:53] <akik> liri_: i guess that could be somehow considered convenience and user friendly setup(?)
[19:53] <alkisg> liri_: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/home_is_where_i_lay_my_head/2012/10/02/how-to-check-in-windows-if-you-are-using-uefi/
[19:53] <elias_a> alkisg: I think you have to use the old /home in order to bump into that one. The installer handles the UUIDs erroneously.
[19:54] <liri_> alkisg:  - exactly, thats how I checked and it says bios legacy
[19:54] <futurama140> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with cinnamon 3 and I'm having this issue: there is a ghosting that happens frequently where my desktop icons have a second image slightly off from where the actual icon is, and sometimes my icons just move off screen. I run two monitors of different sizes and the icons randomly move to an are off of the smaller screen that would exist if the screen was the same size as the larger one. can anyone help?
[19:55] <afx_> Hello ! Can i use rsync with /source1 /destination1 /source2 /destination2 ?
[19:56] <alkisg> elias_a: I think I've done more than 10 installations while preserving the old /home
[19:56] <alkisg> (in 16.04, some ubuntu, most of them mate)
[19:57] <elias_a> alkisg: That's exactly why I'd like to retest what I found before I file a bug report. :O
[19:57] <elias_a> alkisg: Rarely seen anything that strange...
[19:57] <intriga> s
[19:58] <alkisg> liri_: if all you reported is correct, then the only thing that I can imagine is that bios boots sdb in any case, which is some kind of internal memory, and this then handles the f11/f12 menu, the boot manager etc. I would back it up with dd so that I'm able to restore it, and then I would play with that, but I don't think I'd advice you to do that in case you completely ruin your laptop...
[19:59] <mchelen2> videos (totem) is not resuming playback, any ideas why?
[19:59] <AirPlanes> please support :)
[19:59] <theskillwithin> https://youtu.be/WRWrmT0ovPE
[19:59] <alkisg> liri_: try to find some way to tell your laptop to actually use the mbr like it's supposed to do. Or if all else fails, use your usb to chain to your sda (a grub installation there)
[19:59] <liri_> alkisg: yep, got it, thanks for all the help
[20:00] <akik> alkisg: did you notice the archlinux wiki article about that hp laptop?
[20:00] <alkisg> akik: that's about handling uefi though, it shouldn't be in effect in this case
[20:00] <liri_> akik: here's another instance of the same issue: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Dual-boot-on-an-HP-Ultrabook-840-G1/td-p/5071229
[20:01] <akik> liri_: there's also an option to add the grub boot sector to the windows boot manager with bcdedit
[20:01] <roberto_> la pazza gioia
[20:01] <liri_> akik: thats actually interesting, how badly can I mess it up? :) or is there some fancy UI for that in windows to help me out?
[20:02] <akik> liri_: well it's just bcdedit commands in windows
[20:02] <sanou> help me
[20:02] <akik> liri_: it's described on this page https://www.iceflatline.com/2009/09/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-linux-using-bcdedit/
[20:02] <liri_> akik: cool thanks, I'll try that
[20:03] <sanou> liri
[20:03] <sanou> hello
[20:03] <sanou> ############### This section is just for location-hidden services ###
[20:03] <sanou> ## Once you have configured a hidden service, you can look at the
[20:03] <sanou> ## contents of the file ".../hidden_service/hostname" for the address
[20:03] <sanou> ## to tell people.
[20:03] <sanou> ##
[20:03] <sanou> ## HiddenServicePort x y:z says to redirect requests on port x to the
[20:05] <sanou> Howto: Install Torchat - Anonymous P2P Chat Client
[20:05] <jwhisnant> I did an aptitude update; aptitude -y safe-upgrade on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS and now have python Version: 2.7.12-1~precise1 (was 2.7.3 before) - is this an expected upgrade (I admit I don't know where to look online).
[20:05] <sanou> ubuntu 16.0.
[20:08] <minimec> sanou: http://forum.elementaryos-fr.org/topic/1810-torchat/
[20:09] <futurama140> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with cinnamon 3 and I'm having this issue: there is a ghosting that happens frequently where my desktop icons have a second image slightly off from where the actual icon is, and sometimes my icons just move off screen. I run two monitors of different sizes and the icons randomly move to an are off of the smaller screen that would exist if the screen was the same size as the larger one. can anyone help?
[20:09] <AirPlanes> help pls
[20:10] <Pici> AirPlanes: with what?
[20:10] <AirPlanes> with terminal scrolling
[20:11] <AirPlanes> it's bad
[20:11] <Pici> AirPlanes: what does that mean?
[20:11] <AirPlanes> what do you mean?
[20:11] <AirPlanes> terminal scrolling is really bad
[20:11] <AirPlanes> can't scroll...
[20:11] <Pici> AirPlanes: what happens when you try? and how are you trying to scroll?
[20:12] <AirPlanes> with mouse lol
[20:12] <sanou> http://webchat.freenode.net/
[20:13] <Pici> sanou: yes, we're on IRC now.
[20:14] <number28> Having troubles with Wifi Driver in Ubuntu. Appears to be disabled.
[20:14] <number28> Out of no where.
[20:15] <sanou> that's how my friends ubuntu linux I am glad to welcome Goodbye Performance
[20:16] <AirPlanes> sanou, lol
[20:16] <minimec> number28: wb Just another idea. what does 'rfkill list' give you?
[20:16] <AirPlanes> hahaha ?
[20:16] <Number28_> BroadCom driver fails to read any SSID's, similiar problem when using Live CD as well. Is this a hardware issue/
[20:16] <Number28_> minimec: ahh there you are, ty
[20:16] <Number28_> minimec: let me try
[20:17] <futurama140> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with cinnamon 3 and I'm having this issue: there is a ghosting that happens frequently where my desktop icons have a second image slightly off from where the actual icon is, and sometimes my icons just move off screen. I run two monitors of different sizes and the icons randomly move to an are off of the smaller screen that would exist if the screen was the same size as the larger one. can anyone help?
[20:17] <Number28_> minimec: It doesn't say anything about anything being blocked excepy my bluetooth
[20:18] <xavior> hi all how can i install GNU Hurd on my ubuntu computer
[20:18] <Number28_> minimec: Found a external adapter that im using..Also found that the wireless doesnt work even with a live CD..
[20:19] <minimec> Number28_: ok. and 'iwconfig' shows both devices or just the external adapter?
[20:20] <Number28_> minimec: It displays both
[20:20] <sanou> boot
[20:21] <sanou> ./autogen.sh --prefix=<your prefix>
[20:21] <sanou> git clone git://git.gnome.org/empathy
[20:21] <Bashing-om> !bcm | Number28_ Broadcom is proprietary, have you seen ?
[20:21] <sanou> wfifi
[20:21] <sanou> wifi hacking
[20:22] <minimec> Number28_: What is the exact 'name' of the internal device and does network-manager use the same 'name' for the device. Name = something like 'wlan0' or so...
[20:22] <Number28_> ubottu: I was just on a similiar page, however it was working for nearly 4 months until a few hours ago today
[20:22] <Number28_> lol damn... how did he know?
[20:22] <Mdxxx> Hi
[20:23] <Number28_> minimec: Yeah it's wlan0 and wlan1 for my adapter
[20:23] <Bashing-om> Number28_: And an update broke the proprietary driver ??
[20:23] <Number28_> Bashing-om: I rolled back to a previous kernel, and then used a live cd
[20:23] <Number28_> Bashing-om: still no dice.
[20:24] <Number28_> minimec: it is a broadcom driver however.
[20:24] <TurboKraken> Did something replace Gnome-Schedule in 16.04?
[20:24] <Number28_> minimec: but going on this long and suddenly breaking, I can't see that being an issue here?
[20:25] <minimec> Number28_: Personally neither do I. I could imagine a failing device after a kernel update, but not just out of the box...
[20:26] <Number28_> minimec: Exactly.. and rolling back AND a live cd?
[20:27] <Number28_> minimec: But ubuntu detects it... however it just doesnt do anything
[20:30] <Number28_> all my drivers are up to date... I've rolled back the kernel.. I've used a live Cd..
[20:30] <Number28_> Is there anyway a printer could have interfered with my wifi drivers? I was trying to print when my internet stopped working.
[20:30] <minimec> Number28_: Bashing-om: If we give the device a local ip with ifconfig, we could check whether the driver is working correctly right? We should be able to ping that local ip. So I would try 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up' and 'ping 192.168.0.2'
[20:32] <Number28_> minimec: trying
[20:32] <sanou> heloooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:37] <philm88> Hey all. I've had a home server that's been running fine off a btrfs USB stick for months now. Out of the blue, it fails to boot. UEFI just says to insert a proper boot drive on startup - even if I manually force it to attempt to boot from the USB key (it does show up in the EFI boot devices list when I hit F11). Putting hte stick in another machine shows that the hardware seems to be fine - I can read
[20:37] <philm88> all the data fine. Anyone know what I need to look at to help debug this?
[20:37] <sanou> I hacked and I sells virus software
[20:38] <number28> well
[20:38] <hggdh> sanou: this is not appropriate here.
[20:38] <number28> minimec: It worked, but it also kicked me off
[20:38] <number28> minimec: And i no longer have internet connection on the laptop.
[20:38] <number28> minimec: Watched my latency rise and slowly began to realize i wasn't connected.
[20:39] <treblinka> hallo, herren
[20:39] <treblinka> wie geht es euch?
[20:39] <OerHeks> hi treblinka, english only please
[20:39] <minimec> number28: so you can ping that local ip.
[20:40] <treblinka> Is English required?
[20:40] <EriC^^> treblinka: yes
[20:40] <hggdh> treblinka: in this channel, yes
[20:40] <EriC^^> !de | treblinka
[20:40] <number28> minimec: Possibly, but i also have a network adapter plugged in.. I have no idea what the hell i did. I don't understand networking too much.
[20:41] <EriC^^> treblinka: are you from germany?
[20:41] <number28> minimec: that being said.. how do i reverse the affect so i can access the internet with the laptop i just ran the command on
[20:41] <number28> minimec: But yet the pings did go through.
[20:41] <minimec> number28: Why would it cut your internet connection... I don't know. I just did the same here with a nexternel wifi stick beeing connected via LAN. HAd no problems here.
[20:42] <minimec> number28: 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 down'
[20:42] <number28> minimec: Really?... well now i cant ping google or anything since i ran the ifconfig command
[20:42] <number28> minimec: wlan0 is the internal device that was failing...turn it off?
[20:43] <minimec> number28: yes. The one you gave the local ip.
[20:44] <patata> hello! i found a tiny little bug
[20:44] <treblinka> Please, share.
[20:44] <sanou> i want to buy one virus software
[20:44] <patata> with the greek locale, the date is displayed dey ioyl 18 23:44:59
[20:45] <patata> the correct one is dey 18 ioyl 23:44:59
[20:45] <dey> woké
[20:45] <dey> ;)
[20:45] <patata> first the day, then the month
[20:45] <elias_a> Could someone with ops kick sanou?
[20:45] <number28> minimec: okay it's turned off but now my realtek just went down... gonna show you the pastebin
[20:46] <treblinka> Are you sure it's a bug?
[20:46] <sanou> * WARNING - PLEASE BE EXTRA CAREFUL WHILST TRADING ANY CRYPTO ON IRC (WATCH OUT FOR SCAMMERS IMITATING OTHER USERS) - PLEASE USE ESCROW WHERE POSSIBLE! ***
[20:46] <minimec> elias_a: '/ignore sanou' does help too
[20:46] <patata> how should i call it? it's not a feature, and it's wrong (for greeks)
[20:47] <elias_a> minimec: No it does not if you read the logs of this channel.
[20:47] <elias_a> patata: Has it been right?
[20:47] <treblinka> ^ Yeah. Did it change?
[20:47] <minimec> elias_a: I agree...
[20:48] <patata> elias_a, on my previous laptop it's correct
[20:49] <elias_a> patata: Especially if it has been right file a bug. But as other localized languages have several alternatives in showing date and time I suspect greek localization also has. Have you checked that?
[20:50] <elias_a> patata: Localization bugs are quite common. (I am finnish and done some localization so I kind of know...)
[20:51] <philm88> I've managed to get run the efi shell - off hte same usb stick as the rest of the system that fails to boot. First time using efi shell - anyone got any pointers for debugging my boot issue?
[20:52] <patata> elias_a, can it be related that i have made an installation in english (the other machine with the correct format is in greek)?
[20:53] <elias_a> patata: If you have installed all greek localization packages after installation, no.
[20:54] <elias_a> patata: Check in settings. Ubuntu is able to tell you if you are missing language packages.
[20:54] <patata> hum ok. maybe i did something wrong. i will check again.
[20:54] <number28> minimec: http://pastebin.com/iQyUFUj4
[20:55] <elias_a> patata: Please tell me how it succeeded. Quite late here but I read later.
[20:56] <akik> elias_a: as a fellow finn, how do you feel about the ubuntu installation asking for the keyboard layout but then setting the system locale according to that too? i'm having my computers in english
[20:57] <minimec> number28: That paste looks ok. So with 'down' the device should still be listed but without ip. Also the commands should not have an influence on wlan1 and the connection you have to the internet. But... I am by far bot the 'network master'
[20:58] <number28> minimec: Hmm fair enough... so what do i do here?
[20:59] <patata> ok elias_a, it was my fault. i assumed that if the date was displayed in greek caracters it would be greek format, but i was wrong. I just installed it, log out, in, and it's correct now.
[20:59] <number28> minimec: I've tried rolling back the kernel.. I've tried using a Live CD.. I've tried restarting the services.. I've tried updating the broadcom drivers..
[20:59] <elias_a> akik: It is not about the installer asking about the locale. It is about selecting the keyboard input method using the tool in upright corner.
[20:59] <minimec> number28: So with my trivial understanding, the driver is setup correctly and running, if you can ping the local ip of wlan0.
[20:59] <number28> minimec: and google is probably annoyed with my 'ubuntu broadcom drivers' search querries
[21:00] <elias_a> patata: Ok. Good you got it fixed. :)
[21:00] <akik> elias_a: but it sets /etc/default/locale according to your language choice which is then reflected in shell with month names in finnish
[21:01] <elias_a> akik: Yes. I know that. Especially because of that the behaviour I experienced was really strange.
[21:01] <number28> minimec: Well your understanding is far greater than mine..
[21:01] <minimec> number28: What could be (happened to me one time) that network manager took a nother name for my wifi device, different from the one listed in ifconfig. Check that in the preferences of network-manager.
[21:02] <minimec> number28: Experience maybe, not sure for understanding... ;)
[21:02] <number28> minimec: is there a config path for it?
[21:02] <minimec> number28: You can use the network GUI in 'Settings'
[21:02] <number28> minimec: oh i been there a thousand times today
[21:02] <elias_a> akik: If you have some extra disk space and time I can give you the details on how to test it.
[21:03] <akik> elias_a: test what?
[21:03] <mrpanda> hoi
[21:03] <number28> minimec: I have two wirelesses on my gui network settings, the internal says it's on, but says a few of the wireless SSID's are 'out of range'
[21:03] <elias_a> akik: The installer bug.
[21:04] <elias_a> akik: I'll msg you.
[21:04] <mrpanda> :)
[21:04] <mrpanda> anyone know how to set a program "high priority" ??
[21:05] <streulma> how can I proxy an mjpeg stream to webserver ?
[21:06] <mrpanda> hola
[21:06] <mrpanda> anyone know how to set a program "high priority" ??
[21:07] <danolj> mrpanda: use the 'nice' command
[21:07] <mrpanda> nice ?
[21:07] <minimec> number28: Sorry I am mumbeling on a podcast at the same time...
[21:07] <mrpanda> sudo nice "programm name"
[21:07] <mrpanda> ?
[21:08] <mrpanda> in terminal ?
[21:08] <mchelen2> videos (totem) is not resuming playback, any ideas why?
[21:08] <number28> minimec: Pod cast?.. Damn you're a great multitasker!
[21:08] <danolj> yes
[21:08] <minimec> number28: I see that one cannot see the exact device name in >settings<network. At least on 16.04
[21:09] <danolj> mrpanda: here is a good explaination http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/change-the-nice-value-of-a-process/
[21:09] <mrpanda> xie xie
[21:09] <number28> minimec: True, you cannot see the device name. But i know which is which.
[21:09] <minimec> number28: Well I am just a listener basically doing 'nasty comments'...
[21:09] <number28> minimec: Ahh.. like trolling? lol
[21:09] <danolj> mrpanda: don't do a 'nice -20 program_name' :-)
[21:09] <mrpanda> -20 ?
[21:10] <danolj> -20 informs the scheduler to give the specified program a very high priority to the determent of other processes that may be running.
[21:10] <danolj> -20 == highest priority
[21:10] <danolj> 20 == lowest priority
[21:10] <mrpanda> ahh !
[21:10] <mrpanda> $ /bin/nice -n -15 command-name should work ?
[21:10] <mrpanda> audio is now as extremely high
[21:11] <mrpanda> and firefox normal
[21:11] <mrpanda> want the program "high"
[21:11] <minimec> number28: Can you once 'nmcli device' That should give you the device names.
[21:11] <mrpanda> well thanks :D
[21:11] <danolj> mrpanda: sure
[21:12] <mrpanda> woeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[21:12] <number28> minimec: It gave me an error
[21:13] <number28> minimec: Could not intialize, possbile reasons - remote appication did not send reply, message bus security blocked reply, expired, net work connection was broken.. however at the bottom there is another error
[21:14] <number28> minimec: Error: nmcli 0.9.8.8 and NetworkManager(unknown) versions dont match
[21:14] <minimec> number28: I guess we just found something, right?
[21:14] <number28> minimec: Glad i didn't get excited for no reason lol
[21:15] <danolj> Question: Ubuntu 16.04 the permissions on /run/lxcfs/controllers are 700, owner=root, group=root when snmpd runs, permission denied errors occur for the nodes below the controllers directory. I understand that the permissions on the controllers directory are the problem, so the question is, why in U16.04 is the /run/lxcfs/controllers directory so severely protected?
[21:15] <minimec> number28: 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' Verify that the system is uptodate.
[21:16] <Guy1524> hey guys, I used dd to make a live usb.  Is it possible to add an extra file to the usb.  whenever I try it says its a read only filesystem and in gparted there is no partition
[21:16] <number28> minimec: only problem with that is now my adapter doesnt work
[21:16] <Guy1524> thanks
[21:17] <minimec> number28: reboot. OUr ifconfig commands do not survice reboot.
[21:17] <Guy1524> I need this answer fast because I have to soon
[21:17] <reisio> Guy1524: yes
[21:17] <reisio> Guy1524: just mount it and copy a file over
[21:17] <reisio> Guy1524: it will be in an odd place, but you can just find / -type f -iname '*foo*' to find it from the live OS
[21:18] <number28> minimec: Rebooting..
[21:18] <reisio> that is: the path you copy it to will change after you load the live OS
[21:23] <Bashing-om> number28: minimec Name convenytions ar cvhanged in 16.04, what returns ' ip link ls ' ? qnd wee then see what you can ping .. mind yall .. wireless is not in my experience !
[21:25] <salamanderrake> how do I install a specific version of a package?
[21:25] <minimec> Bashing-om: THX. He is still on 14.04. He is rebooting right now. We got a strange error message when using nmcli "Error: nmcli 0.9.8.8 and NetworkManager(unknown) versions dont match"
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> salamanderrake  you mean, that's not in the repos?
[21:25] <leeyaa> Is there a way to install only the stuff for fmpeg tool to convert videos without dependancies ?. https://bpaste.net/show/3471ffd347af
[21:25] <salamanderrake> I don't know if it is
[21:25] <salamanderrake> I want to install an older version of wine
[21:26] <minimec> Bashing-om: Whis is strange because 'nmcli' is part of the network-manager package...
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> salamanderrake  install what's in the repos, for anything else, you need a ppa or a .deb or so, but that's not supported here
[21:26] <Bashing-om> minimec: Yeah ,, I was away for a bit .. catching up .
[21:27] <number28> Bashing-om: Typed in the command, it displayed my devices.. nothing too out of the ordinary. Minimec and i discovered something wrong within nmcli command tho
[21:27] <leeyaa> basically im trying to make it smaller. currently package and crap with it is 250MB +
[21:27] <number28> minimec: It's still updating here.. almost done.. im guessing this is because i rolled the kernel back?
[21:27] <number28> minimec: Cause i'm pretty sure i was up to date earlier
[21:28] <minimec> number28: So finish the upgrade and do a reboot in case you got a new kernel.
[21:29] <JohnW1990> Hello everyone! :)
[21:30] <number28> minimec: wilco
[21:30] <JohnW1990> I am trying to batch convert some MP4 files to be compatible with the PS4 Media Player App. What program would be best to bulk convert to these file formats on ubuntu? https://dpaste.de/Be7U
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> JohnW1990  try winff
[21:31] <JohnW1990> I did and I used the H264 for video profile, and also used AVI as the container. However it is still not recognizing my files using Winff
[21:31] <Bashing-om> number28: K. ^^Just to verify that " wlan0  " is the correct identifier .
[21:32] <patata> hello again, with the file browser i made a search and moved all results to a new location, but apparently i did something wrong because now i have an "untitled folder"  / size 15kB /  Type Document / Modified 27/02/2015 all the documents are gone (probably into this folder which looks like a document), can somebody help about this?
[21:33] <number28> minimec: I have no idea what we did.. but we just fixed everything
[21:33] <number28> Bashing-om:  ^
[21:34] <number28> minimec: I don't understand.. What...So...Ever
[21:34] <JohnW1990> patata Can't you just re-search for the files you copied?
[21:34] <number28> minimec: I'm guessing it's because it's the first time i updated since i rolled back the kernel??
[21:34] <minimec> number28: ;) Give your computer a hug... ;)
[21:34] <Bashing-om> number28: :) 'buntu .. given the room .. self healing !
[21:34] <number28> minimec: Seriously... I'd buy you a damn beer if possible
[21:35] <patata> JohnW1990, no, i moved them so they're not in the old location, and they're not in the new location either
[21:35] <number28> Bashing-om: Ugh.. i've been working on this for the past couple hours... this makes me so happy.
[21:35] <JohnW1990> patata Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:35] <patata> the last one, just downloaded and installed today...
[21:36] <number28> minimec: In theory... the solution was to roll the kernel back.. but earlier when i did that, i didnt find my network card... that sound about right?
[21:36] <JohnW1990> patata Ok Good! Using the unity search (first button on the launcher on the left-side of the screen.) you should be able to find whatever files were copied unless they were deleted... In which case they would probably be in the trash.
[21:37] <ccha5> about dhclient, I set a script inside /etc/dhcp/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/ which parse /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.eth0.leases. Of course I add sleep 30 before parsing, but it look like lease file still created later. Does lease file is created before exit hooks?
[21:37] <minimec> number28: Honestely... I don't know... You had some network-manager version conflict, according to the error we had.
[21:37] <JohnW1990> patata After you click the unity search icon, there are tabs in the window it brings up along the bottom. Click the third tab which is the "File Search" tab. And then search for one of the files. If you copied them all to the same place they should all be there.
[21:37] <minimec> number28: ... and thanks for the beer. In fact I had one during our conversation. it's 23:30 here... ;)
[21:38] <patata> JohnW1990, they were not copied, they were cut and pasted. so they're not in the trash either.
[21:38] <JohnW1990> patata Steps to find the files are still the same regardless :)
[21:38] <JohnW1990> Patata If you cut & pasted them tey are somewhere and you should be able to easily search for them is what I'm getting at lol.
[21:39] <JohnW1990> Even if they are in root you should be able to find them
[21:40] <squinty> patata,  might want to try   sudo updatedb    to update your system's file datbase and then run  locate <filename> to see if they are still available
[21:40] <number28> minimec: lol well man... thank you. Seriously. You invested a decent amount of time into me today and i appreciate you for that.
[21:40] <patata> JohnW1990, my point is that while i pasted them into the new folder, they suddenly disappear from there and there is this document called "untitled folder" which i don't know how to open
[21:40] <number28> Bashing-om: Thanks for checking in on me as well and throwing in some advice!
[21:40] <JohnW1990> patata I'd follow squinty's advice then
[21:41] <JohnW1990> patata that is very odd indeed
[21:42] <minimec> number28: Well there is this GOP convention on CNN that I watch with one eye... ;) So nothing better to do. But I like to help other ubuntu users, because I needed that help years ago...
[21:42] <Bashing-om> number28: NP, My bit to try and help .
[21:43] <minimec> number28: Come back here sometimes and try to share your experiences and solutions. The 'team' can never be big enough...
[21:43] <patata> i must add that these files were just recovered from a backup, and while i was moving them it was asking me if i should replace one with the other (many of them had same names). I think i clicked yes when it was asking to replace (null) folder with (null) document.
[21:44] <patata> or vice versa.
[21:44] <Number28_> minimec: Well I plan on passing along the karma
[21:44] <JohnW1990> patata Any chance they were corrupted after being recovered? Did you test any of them before moving them?
[21:46] <patata> JohnW1990, i didn't check them all, only a few and they were working. but some other were probably corrupted.
[21:47] <patata> now i probably have to make recovery again?
[21:48] <JohnW1990> patata I'm no expert on the subject of file recovery. But it certainly sounds like something is corrupted. You *could* try to recover them again. Or simple scan the current drive they are on for errors using some sort of drive/file checking tool. The other users here may have advice on which tool to use.
[21:48] <JohnW1990> patata sorry I can't help more :(
[21:50] <evanvarvell> ...
[21:56] <patata> thank you JohnW1990, i'll find a way.
[21:56] <JohnW1990> patata Your welcome, I hope you do :)
[21:58] <_unreal_> how would I go about setting up on mouse over
[21:58] <_unreal_> so that when my mouse is over something the screen is active
[21:59] <JohnW1990> _unreal_ "System Settings -> Appearance" then click "Behavior" tab
[21:59] <JohnW1990> _unreal_ either that or use the "Unity Tweak Tool"
[22:00] <_unreal_> checking gui
[22:01] <_unreal_> looks like I need the unity tweak tool
[22:01] <_unreal_> apt-get unity?
[22:01] <_unreal_> not sure what the program is called
[22:01] <JohnW1990> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/unity-tweak-tool/
[22:01] <JohnW1990> That's easier :P
[22:01] <JohnW1990> Click & install
[22:02] <JohnW1990> If that doesn't do it for ya, it may require modifying the theme which may require a lot more extensive knowledge.
[22:03] <holmser> I'm having a hard time getting an unattended usb install image for 14.04 going.  I followed this guide:  https://pricklytech.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/ubuntu-server-unattended-installation-custom-cd/
[22:04] <holmser> I tested the iso in virtualbox and it works, but when I write it to a USB drive and try and boot it the computer just skips booting the usb and goes straight to the HDD
[22:04] <holmser> this is after I have specifically selected the USB drive from the boot order menut
[22:05] <holmser> are there any integrity checks that are running at boot that might affect something like this?
[22:05] <JohnW1990> What program did you use to make the bootable usb?
[22:05] <treblinka> I was kicked from the German room because of my nick.
[22:05] <compdoc> nic
[22:05] <treblinka> nik
[22:05] <JohnW1990> Anytime I have ever experienced an issue with a USB not booting it's because of the program I used to copy the ISO not creating the proper boot partition.
[22:06] <JohnW1990> IE. I cannot create a windows 7 bootable USB except using Rufus. I have not found a tool yet that will work in Ubuntu
[22:06] <JohnW1990> Therefor I have to use Windows to create the bootable USB
[22:06] <root__> hi guys, I would like to encrypt my usb drives. I have searched on Google and found that are many websites offer different methods. I hope you guys can help me find a good way to encrypt my usb drives. I prefer to use my cli.
[22:06] <JohnW1990> Perhaps try using Rufus to create the bootable USB? It works great.
[22:06] <holmser> JohnW1990: I am using the ubuntu startup disk creator
[22:07] <JohnW1990> In 14.04?
[22:07] <JohnW1990> Or 16.04?
[22:07] <holmser> 115.04
[22:07] <holmser> 16.04
[22:07] <JohnW1990> Hmm.. I'm not sure. In theory it should be working. Maybe someone else will chime in and offer more help :S
[22:08] <holmser> yeah... I am missing something but I can't figure out what it is
[22:08] <treblinka> You're trying to create a bootable USB for windows?
[22:08] <holmser> a bootable usb for automated 14.04 server install
[22:09] <treblinka> I always thought rufus was the way to go with this one
[22:10] <treblinka> I've never had any problems with it
[22:10] <treblinka> Hmmmm
[22:10] <treblinka> this is a tough one
[22:10] <zerowaitstate> how do i find a systemd unit file associated with a particular running service?
[22:11] <JohnW1990> holmser I think treblinka is offering good advice. I've never had a problem using rufus to make ANY sort of bootable USB
[22:11] <JohnW1990> Thought it royally sucks that you can't run Rufus in ubuntu
[22:11] <JohnW1990> And have to get access to a windows machine :(
[22:12] <holmser> treblinka: not really an option.  No windows boxes anywhere near me
[22:13] <JohnW1990> What about running windows inside of a VM? Would that work possibly?
[22:13] <JohnW1990> Even a small cut-down version of XP should run rufus
[22:14] <holmser> startup disk creator does the standard ubuntu image just fine
[22:15] <holmser> just not the modified version that I'm creating
[22:15] <JohnW1990> Oh I see
[22:15] <k1l> are you sure the iso you create is ok at all?
[22:15] <k1l> sounds more like you have an iso issue and not an making an usb issue
[22:15] <minimec> holmser: the post is rather old, but... http://serverfault.com/a/167060
[22:15] <holmser> k1l: It works in virtualbox
[22:16] <k1l> holmser: what is the issue when you boot it? is it a hybrid iso? then dd it to the usb.
[22:16] <holmser> k1l: it doesn't really do anything when I boot it.  Just skips right to the first hard disk
[22:17] <_unreal_> ok I just tried to transfer the file that I finished building using this site as a guide. https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/CuBox
[22:17] <treblinka> have you tried booting it manually?
[22:17] <_unreal_> but when I went to copy the files from the harddrive to the thumb drive it failed after a min saying system does not support copying simbolic link files?
[22:18] <JohnW1990> _unreal_ Yea I am currently trying to figure out a fix for the slow transfer to USB from Ubuntu... it's a real drag
[22:18] <_unreal_> its not speed that is my issue its saying there are symbolic link files and it doesnt support trasnfering them
[22:19] <JohnW1990> _unreal_ Yea I'm not sure how to fix that, just mentioning the coincidence.
[22:20] <_unreal_> system does not support symbolic links, skip retry, or cancle
[22:20] <al_nz1> I have put my home directory on a second disk which I realise is NTFS, I need to umount home (/dev/sdb1) and format it as ntfs
[22:20] <al_nz1> format it as EXT4
[22:20] <al_nz1> then remount it
[22:20] <al_nz1> but at the moment I cant umount it
[22:20] <al_nz1> it says target busy
[22:20] <al_nz1> help
[22:20] <al_nz1> pls
[22:20] <_unreal_> ya your using the computer
[22:21] <al_nz1> so can I move /home back to /dev/sdb1 (where the old home still exists
[22:21] <_unreal_> it would be easyer to boot with a live disk
[22:22] <al_nz1> well I commented out the home folder from fstab, and then did mount -a
[22:23] <al_nz1> but home is still busy :-(
[22:24] <JohnW1990> Anyone know how to disable swap on 16.04 to fix the USB transfer hang?
[22:25] <OerHeks> al_nz1, you cannot unmount a partition that is in use, boot a live iso and do it from there
[22:26] <al_nz1> OerHeks: ok - but surely there must be a way to move /home back to original location
[22:26] <al_nz1> then /home wouldnt be busy and could be umounted
[22:28] <OerHeks> if you want to restore your old home to the current, i think most setting files are in use, same solution, do it from a live iso.
[22:28] <OerHeks> or just copy data, not hidden .config folders
[22:29] <ilmaisin> well, how was it, was the forum runner patched but the patch not yet applied to the server, or was there no patch available at all by the time?
[22:30] <k1l> ilmaisin: better ask #ubuntuforums for that details
[22:30] <_unreal_> OerHeks, I just told him that hehe
[22:30] <ilmaisin> k1l: ok
[22:31] <OerHeks> _unreal_, oh oke, lets wait for asking it again
[22:31] <_unreal_> hehe
[22:31] <_unreal_> I was like what the hell he asked the same question over and got the same responce LOL
[22:32] <OerHeks> Is there any full-moon detection app ?
[22:32] <holmser> k1l: It wasn't a hybrid iso
[22:32] <_unreal_> omg this is so slow. formating a 16gig sd thumb drive from fat to ext3 so I can copy symbolic links
[22:32] <holmser> I owe you a beer or 10
[22:33] <_unreal_> holmser, I'll be a pinch hitter k1l  refuses
[22:34] <zerowaitstate> _unreal_: well, you are probably checking for bad blocks
[22:34] <ax562> hello
[22:36] <_unreal_> soooo sloooooooooow
[22:37] <JohnW1990> And still no advice on how to fix the han/slow usb transfers anywhere
[22:37] <JohnW1990> *hang
[22:37] <zerowaitstate> _unreal_: of course, it also could be that your thumb drive is junk
[22:37] <Cysc0> Any here use pyAlienFX?
[22:38] <_unreal_> Cysc0, ever even heard of it
[22:38] <_unreal_> JohnW1990, hanging at random or hanging after a large volume of file transfer?
[22:38] <JohnW1990> _unreal_ nah man I've tried so many brands, they all act the same. It goes to 95-99% instantly and then hangs for like 10 minutes even on a 500MB file
[22:38] <Cysc0> dang, yeah I'm having some troubles with mine and i cant seem to find a fix or solution for it online. Im pulling my hair out trying to fix it lol
[22:39] <JohnW1990> I currently am using a Kingston 16GB stick which is brand-new
[22:39] <_unreal_> JohnW1990, that could be a usb driver issue
[22:39] <_unreal_> :) me too
[22:39] <JohnW1990> _unreal_ a lot of users are experiencing this issue apparently. There are multiple bug reports open.
[22:39] <_unreal_> 16gig kingston, one of them micro one's that hardly sticks out of the usb
[22:39] <JohnW1990> ^ yup thats the one
[22:40] <_unreal_> ya I think I got it for like $5 usd
[22:40] <JohnW1990> Actually no it's the "Keychain style"
[22:40] <_unreal_> ahh
[22:40] <_unreal_> ahh finally format complete took 17min
[22:40] <JohnW1990> O_o
[22:42] <JohnW1990> I tried a bunch of fixes for 14.04 we will see soon if they work :P
[22:42] <futurama140> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with cinnamon 3 and I'm having this issue: there is a ghosting that happens frequently where my desktop icons have a second image slightly off from where the actual icon is, and sometimes my icons just move off screen. I run two monitors of different sizes and the icons randomly move to an are off of the smaller screen that would exist if the screen was the same size as the larger one. can anyone help?
[22:43] <MSDOS6> hi
[22:44] <JohnW1990> hello MSDOS6
[22:47] <JohnW1990> _unreal_ The fix for the 14.04 version of ubuntu worked. Just had to add a few lines to etc/sysctl.conf and run sudo sysctl -p in the /etc directory
[22:48] <JohnW1990> **** YEA! That has been annoying the crap out of me for a long time. It transfers 100* faster
[22:50] <_unreal_> hum
[22:50] <_unreal_> great now I cant write anything to the thumb drive
[22:52] <red_hax0r> where do the developers of Canonical have discussions about Ubuntu development?
[22:52] <_unreal_> its formated as ext3
[22:52] <k1l> red_hax0r: look at the mailinglists
[22:52] <JohnW1990> I highly suggest editing sysctl.conf before doing ANYTHING with your USB's lol:
[22:52] <_unreal_> ok reformating to ext2
[22:52] <JohnW1990> https://thepb.in/p/P1hv1Gwp8EDHl
[22:52] <_unreal_> I dont know what to edit
[22:53] <JohnW1990> View that link
[22:53] <_unreal_> looking
[22:53] <JohnW1990> just run sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf from the terminal
[22:54] <JohnW1990> and add those 2 lines and save. Then go into at terminal type "cd /etc" and then "sudo sysctl -p"
[22:54] <JohnW1990> works wonders
[22:54] <_unreal_> I'm not sure if this is a 32bit or 64bit install
[22:54] <_unreal_> I think its 32
[22:54] <JohnW1990> oh then you should be fine (i think(
[22:54] <_unreal_> thought he computer I believe is 64bt
[22:55] <JohnW1990> I gotta go bro, have a good one :)
[22:59] <zamanf> hi
[23:03] <noobynoob> hi guys, I mounted my encrypted usb, but I can only access it when in root mode. Any idea how to solve this?
[23:04] <_unreal_> I doont get it, y thumb drive is formated to ext2 and I cant write to it
[23:04] <noobynoob> _unreal_: you asking me?
[23:10] <_unreal_> i wasnt but I am now :)
[23:11] <zamanf> 12
[23:11] <_unreal_> 13
[23:13] <Bashing-om> _unreal_: Permissioins on the mount point with the drive plugged in ?
[23:14] <zamanf> test
[23:15] <zamanf> tes
[23:16] <fractal> i am transferring files from a windows computer to my ubuntu system and the copy dialog disappeared. it is still copying as i can see the directory growing larger, but i cannot see the estimated time left dialog, and Right-Click "Show Copy Dialog" does not bring it back
[23:16] <fractal> is this a known bug?
[23:17] <fractal> oh i forgot to mention i'm doing it through network sharing
[23:17] <fractal> :(
[23:19] <zamanf> tes
[23:20] <zamanf> test
[23:20] <fractal> hi zamanf
[23:21] <fractal> maybe my dual monitor setup is messing with things
[23:21] <fractal> :(
[23:22] <_unreal_> Bashing-om, yes it is plugged in
[23:23] <argggggg> why ubuntu doesnt have hexchat?
[23:23] <_unreal_> hexchat?
[23:23] <fractal> it does, install it
[23:23] <_unreal_> 11011101011111011
[23:23] <argggggg> it got ex-chat, not hexchat
[23:23] <pauljw> it's in the repos
[23:23] <zamanf> test
[23:23] <zamanf> test
[23:23] <minimec> argggggg: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=hexchat&searchon=names
[23:23] <fractal> so nobody knows about the copy dialog disappearing?
[23:23] <argggggg> thank but i still did not installed it
[23:23] <argggggg> installed ubuntu i mean
[23:24] <fractal> is my question too complex?
[23:24] <fractal> :(
[23:25] <fractal> ahh found it!!
[23:25] <fractal> http://askubuntu.com/questions/645610/super-d-hides-copy-dialog-forever-in-15-04
[23:26] <minimec> fractal: if you copy from windows to ubuntu via network, ubuntu will not show the copy dialog. Windowsd does... right?
[23:26] <fractal> well, that's kinda not cool, but i guess it's as good as it will get
[23:26] <fractal> minimec: well i am doing the copy from my Ubuntu end
[23:26] <fractal> but i just answered my own question with a google search
[23:26] <fractal> :)
[23:26] <fractal> can't logout and back in right now, the copy  is still in progress
[23:26] <CodeMouse92> If I'm creating a virtual machine for Xenial Xerus x64 server, intended exclusively for Jenkins to use as a build environment, what would a good drive size be?
[23:27] <CodeMouse92> 50GB seems overkill, TBH
[23:27] <Bashing-om> _unreal_: The thing is .. who owns the mount point ? ' ls -al <mount_point> .. such as for example " ls -al /media/unreal/usb " . Maybe change the owner to "you" ??
[23:27] <fractal> poor zamanf
[23:27] <fractal> :(
[23:27] <CodeMouse92> (It'll have GCC, Cmake, and a couple small programs on board, and that's about it)
[23:28] <_unreal_> Bashing-om, checking
[23:29] <_unreal_> hum root owns the mount point
[23:29] <_unreal_> chown
[23:29] <PrincessBob> anyone here use pia?
[23:30] <fractal> PrincessBob: no
[23:30] <fractal> i like cryptostor
[23:30] <fractal> :)
[23:30] <fractal> m*
[23:31] <fractal> but IPv6 leaks no matter where i disable it at
[23:31] <fractal> so what's the point?
[23:31] <fractal> :(
[23:31] <fractal> i've distro-hopped so many times, disabled IPv6, it still leaks
[23:31] <PrincessBob> i leak too
[23:31] <PrincessBob> we all leak!
[23:31] <fractal> i gave up on that ages ago
[23:31] <fractal> the solution would be to have a VPN client that has proxy abilities, kinda like TOR or I2P
[23:32] <fractal> one day :)
[23:32] <_unreal_> sweet thanks Bashing-om transfering files now
[23:32] <_unreal_> arg. 14gigs to go
[23:32] <fractal> man i'm so glad i gave Ubuntu/Unity another shot, i am in LOVE with it
[23:32] <fractal> thanks to KDE and Gnome3 sucking so badly hehe
[23:32] <_unreal_> really?
[23:32] <Bashing-om> _unreal_: Ya do something like ' sudo chown <username>:<username> /media/<username>/<path> .. so "you" own the mount point  ?
[23:33] <_unreal_> already did :)
[23:33] <fractal> i want to install this now on my other laptop
[23:33] <_unreal_> fractal, I'm alway torn between ubunto and fedora
[23:33] <fractal> i must say, i did enjoy Chapeau, but bugs, lack of much support, updates, popularity
[23:34] <fractal> i ditched it
[23:34] <fractal> :(
[23:34] <fractal> i'm not savvy enough for that
[23:34] <fractal> it was an amazing fedora-based distro
[23:34] <fractal> but still, i need lots of documentation, and ubuntu has it all
[23:34]  * fractal is an idiot :/
[23:35] <PrincessBob> im just today starting to use linux :)
[23:35] <argggggg_> congrat PrincessBob
[23:35] <fractal> oh yes
[23:35] <fractal> been trying to convert my mom to linux, but she refuses
[23:35] <fractal> she likes her old and outdated windows
[23:35] <argggggg_> dont accept her refuse, just install gentoo on her pc
[23:35] <fractal> working on getting her Win10 at the moment, that is why i am doing this file transfer over the network
[23:36] <tgm4883> !ot
[23:36] <fractal> i shouldn't talk about windows in here
[23:36] <fractal> it's a bad word
[23:36] <fractal> :(
[23:36] <fractal> i should be shunned for even mentioning it ;(
[23:37] <argggggg_> windows and ubuntu are bad words
[23:37] <argggggg_> im just trying to install ubuntu in case i can like it
[23:37] <argggggg_> i hate it since 9.04
[23:37] <fractal> argggggg_: what do you use now?
[23:37] <argggggg_> arch
[23:37] <tgm4883> Can we stay on topic please
[23:38] <argggggg_> im on topic, what is good on 16.04 that was shitty in 9.04?
[23:38] <fractal> tgm4883: who is offtopic?
[23:38] <tgm4883> argggggg_: no, these aren't support questions. The topic is support
[23:38] <fractal> my initial question was regarding a bug during a windows file transfer TO ubuntu system
[23:38] <tgm4883> chatting about ubuntu is a completely different channel
[23:39] <fractal> tgm4883: ok
[23:39] <fractal> tgm4883: found it :)
[23:41] <fractal> argggggg_: watch out, i got in trouble for language earlier too
[23:41] <fractal> lol, just a heads up :P
[23:41] <argggggg_> fractal, they are fascists here anyway
[23:41] <argggggg_> did not changed since years i see
[23:41] <OerHeks> ..
[23:43] <tgm4883> OerHeks: not even worth responding to
[23:43] <fractal> i'm not trying to be kicked. i will keep on topic now. i apologize. will ask questions if any further arise
[23:44] <vacho> sorry if my question is too n00bie.. but I have a web app installed in /var/www/html/ directory and my user is called "ubuntu", how do I give the user "ubuntu" proper permissions so he can alter files in the /var/www/html/ directory without having to sudo?
[23:46] <OerHeks> vacho, add the user to www-data, tons of articles about that.
[23:47] <vacho> OerHeks: ok, I will try that..thank you
[23:48] <OerHeks> usermod -aG www-data username (for existing users)
[23:49] <vacho> OerHeks: the files are owned by root:root though, maybe I should change it to root:www-data first?
[23:49] <OerHeks> vacho, be aware, there is a fine #ubuntu-server channel too
[23:50] <argggggg> what is the standard DE on ubuntu16.04 64 bits? unity?
[23:51] <Rochvellon> unity
[23:51] <argggggg> thank
[23:51] <vacho> OerHeks: I didn't know, thank you! :)