[08:07] <yofel> !testers | 16.04.1 candidates are out: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/363/builds
[08:12] <yofel> hm, bot is in vacation mode
[08:19] <valorie> hmmm, so are the images
[08:19] <valorie> zsync, rsync and wget all fail
[08:21] <valorie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20013301/
[08:29] <yofel> hm, zsync works for me
[08:34] <acheronuk> cdimage.ubuntu.com: No route to host
[08:35] <acheronuk> http gives a 404 here
[08:36] <valorie> it's late; I'll try again in the morning
[08:36] <acheronuk> zsync as well
[08:46] <jimarvan> good morning peeps :)
[08:46] <jimarvan> anything fascinating happening?
[08:52] <acheronuk> jimarvan: not sure. I've not been on here much for a few days
[09:05] <santa_> good morning everyone
[09:11] <santa_> clivejo: yo I have a nice progress here towards the qt build depend bumping
[09:11] <santa_> I might have something reasonably decent today
[09:33] <jimarvan> :)
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[10:06] <clivejo> santa_: nice one
[10:08] <clivejo> acheronuk: nice to see you back :)
[10:34]  * clivejo dances 
[10:35] <clivejo> Im rich!! 
[10:35] <clivejo> $3.5M USD IS DONATED TO YOU BY MR. RAYMOND .H. SCOTT
[10:37] <kfunk> I envy you, didn't get as much
[10:37] <kfunk> YOU HAVE WON ￡950,000.00 POUNDS FROM MICROSOFT ONLINE PROMOTION
[10:38] <davmor2> kfunk: is that how much they pay you to use windows 10?
[10:39] <kfunk> davmor2: oh, I'd switch instantly if I got that money in return :)
[10:44] <davmor2> kfunk: yeah they forget to tell you you have to pay it back in monthly subscriptions
[10:45] <clivejo> LOL I won free M$ software few years ago
[10:46] <clivejo> unfortunately there was no cash equivalent
[10:47] <clivejo> which I told them was the correct value of the software
[10:57] <jimarvan> what?
[10:57] <jimarvan> whaaaaaaaaaaat?
[10:57] <jimarvan> xD
[11:03] <clivejo> hi jimbo!
[11:22]  * acheronuk is slowly melting
[11:30] <acheronuk> huh. another nvidia update just killed plasma
[11:31] <acheronuk> reboot fixed it, but that is annoying.
[11:55] <clivejo> nvidia is getting a lot of killer updates in yakkety
[12:00] <acheronuk> this was the graphics drive ppa in xenial
[12:01] <clivejo> oh
[12:01] <clivejo> have you a xenial test box?
[12:01] <acheronuk> plasma used to seem to survive until a reboot before, but now seems not to like driver updates
[12:02] <acheronuk> clivejo: this main machine is still on xenial
[12:02] <clivejo> any VM?
[12:02] <acheronuk> I'm being a bit of a coward not putting YY on it yet
[12:02] <clivejo> Im backporting FW5.24
[12:02] <clivejo> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.24.0_xenial.html
[12:03] <acheronuk> much orange!
[12:04] <clivejo> lot of lintian whining going on
[12:05] <acheronuk> did I see plasma 5.7.1 somewhere as well?
[12:06] <clivejo> in staging-plasma for yakkety
[12:06] <acheronuk> ahhh... :)
[12:06] <clivejo> if FW ever builds I plan to backport it
[12:07] <clivejo> but Im only in for lunch and have a few hours of power washing to do!
[12:07] <acheronuk> still catching up here. an old uni friend paid me a visit at the weekend, and it was a bit hectic!
[12:07] <clivejo> much drinking to be done
[12:08] <acheronuk> think I'm still recovering. can't cope nowadays!
[12:08] <clivejo> I know how you feel
[12:08] <clivejo> in uni I could drink and still function fine the next day
[12:08] <clivejo> now Im suffering for a week after!
[12:09] <acheronuk> the heat is not helping either
[12:09] <clivejo> sweat it out of ya!
[12:09] <clivejo> Im enjoying the washing
[12:09] <acheronuk> it's going to do that, for sure
[12:09] <clivejo> nice fine cool spray
[12:10] <acheronuk> now there's an idea!
[12:11] <clivejo> its refreshing!
[12:14] <jimarvan> :D
[12:15] <jimarvan> It is so damn hot today
[12:15] <jimarvan> love it
[12:15] <clivejo> you are used to a hot climate!
[12:16] <acheronuk> I normally do
[12:16] <acheronuk> Greece? or did I get that wrong?
[12:20] <jimarvan> UK :)
[12:20] <jimarvan> Newquay
[12:20] <jimarvan> I will go back to Greece after summer
[12:25] <clivejo> back to work, chat later
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[14:05] <acheronuk> hmm. not sure I've set this BNC up correctly
[15:02] <santa_> god damned ccache XD
[15:03] <santa_> it can make ftbfs some packages
[15:06] <clivejo> can someone do a quick test install of frameworks 5.24?
[15:06] <mamarley> clivejo: On Yakkety?
[15:06] <clivejo> xenial
[15:07] <clivejo> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.24.0_xenial.html
[15:07] <mamarley> Sorry, no Xenial VMs or boxen at the moment. :(
[15:08] <mamarley> I could create one when I get home from work though if you still need testing.
[15:08] <clivejo> just need something quick
[15:09] <mamarley> Sorry.
[15:17] <mparillo> clivejo: I have a Xenial VM, if you still need a tester.
[15:17] <clivejo> is it disposable?
[15:18] <mparillo> Yup.
[15:18] <mparillo> Booting it now.
[15:18] <clivejo> can you do test install of staging-frameworks please
[15:18] <clivejo> just see if what it wants to remove is sane
[15:24] <marco-parillo> clivejo: OK, I am in XX
[15:24] <clivejo> this will break it
[15:25] <clivejo> but I just want to know if it installs ok
[15:25] <clivejo> also what it wants to remove
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[15:26] <marco-parillo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks ?
[15:26] <clivejo> yup
[15:26] <yofel> use a chroot?
[15:27] <clivejo> yofel: I cant really afford the bandwidth :(
[15:27] <yofel> use a container.................
[15:27] <clivejo> ah true
[15:27] <Guest65680> we have it for a reason
[15:27] <Guest65680> opps
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[15:27] <clivejo> marco-parillo is already doing it for me :P
[15:28] <clivejo> Im getting ready to upload plasma
[15:28] <clivejo> chance are its fine, but just wanted to double check
[15:28] <santa_> upload where?
[15:29] <clivejo> staging
[15:29] <santa_> do you want to test the qt build depend bumping in the upload?
[15:29] <clivejo> not at this point
[15:29] <santa_> ok
[15:29] <clivejo> this is a backport
[15:29] <santa_> ah, its a backport
[15:29] <santa_> but I don't understand
[15:30] <santa_> doesn't need qt 5.6?
[15:30] <clivejo> but for 5.7.2, yes Ill want to test the script
[15:30] <clivejo> its does
[15:30] <clivejo> 5.6.1
[15:30] <santa_> but it's already in backports
[15:30] <clivejo> acheronuk built us a test build
[15:30] <santa_> ah, ok
[15:30] <clivejo> for XX and YY
[15:31] <marco-parillo> That was successful. Next step is apt update, then the upgradable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20047717/
[15:31] <clivejo> thats the build FW and Plasma are based on
[15:31] <santa_> right now I'm doing a test rebuild of fw and plasma with the bumping stuff I have
[15:36] <marco-parillo> clivejo: And this is what a full-upgrade will remove / add / update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20048366/
[15:38] <acheronuk> that list is expected really
[15:39] <clivejo> similar to YY at this stage
[15:39] <clivejo> thanks marco-parillo
[15:39] <marco-parillo> My pleasure
[15:39] <clivejo> can you let them install
[15:39] <marco-parillo> Sure thing
[15:40] <clivejo> oooo
[15:40] <marco-parillo> Now, if it truly destroys my kittens, I am not so good at recovering. I will just use the opportunity to test the 16.04.1 image.
[15:40] <clivejo> santa_: your script might get tested sooner rather than later!
[15:40] <clivejo> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.7.2.php
[15:41] <clivejo> as long as you know your kittens are going to be fried!
[15:41] <acheronuk> that sddm removal seemed a bit nasty at first, but fallout from needing a new workspace version I think
[15:41] <marco-parillo> I would pref we revet to LightDM with its built-in guest session.
[15:41] <clivejo> marco-parillo: but maybe keep it running after it installs
[15:42] <yofel> you *can* use lightdm if you want. It's just completely untested
[15:42] <yofel> (the kde frontend that is)
[15:42] <clivejo> depending on how quick or slow LP is plasma is about to be uploaded and will need testing
[15:43] <acheronuk> lightdm works better with xephyr as well
[15:44] <acheronuk> or actually *works*
[15:44] <clivejo> who does this voice over ?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9MtFqkRFwQ
[15:46] <yofel> except that we're deprecating X11 :P
[15:47] <clivejo> poor x11
[15:47] <clivejo> like an old work horse shot in the head :(
[15:48] <yofel> I'm not sure if this mutation of a thing still has the right to be called a horse..
[15:50]  * acheronuk recalls using CDE on Sun X server workstations
[15:51] <clivejo> upload in progress
[15:51] <clivejo> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.7.1_xenial.html
[15:51] <clivejo> have to go for a bit
[15:54] <marco-parillo> clivejo: This is my kosole scroll-back: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20050362/
[15:55] <marco-parillo> I did not get the little tray notification saying a re-boot is required.
[16:02] <IrcsomeBot> <Clifford> A reboot will probably kill your kittens
[16:10] <mparillo> Probably. I will need to soon.
[16:33] <acheronuk> santa_: from the ML, yofel kindly got my ssh key added to depot.kde.org the other day
[17:13] <acheronuk> clivejo: later in the week I would like to try to get a better handle on some of the automation scripts if you will be about?
[17:18] <mparillo> clivejo: After applying updates, I was unable to shut down via the Application Launcher. Instead, I had to sudo poweroff. After a reboot, I saw glowing Kubuntu logo, but now have a tty login prompt.
[17:20] <clivejo> acheronuk: sure, give me a shout
[17:21] <clivejo> santa_ has been working on them to include a bumping function
[17:28] <clivejo> plasma 5.7.2 is out, you could try staging that :)
[17:39] <mparillo> clivejo: So after staring at the tty login prompt, I figured I would startx. Black screen. You were right. Kitten roadkill.
[17:40] <clivejo> plasma 5.7.1 is building as we speak
[17:40] <santa_> yo
[17:40] <clivejo> if you can snapshot the machine and then install it
[17:40] <santa_> we are all building many things XD
[17:41] <clivejo> might be tomorrow at this rate
[17:41] <santa_> regarding the automation I think it's about time to start switching to the new tooling
[17:42] <santa_> maybe we could do the following
[17:42] <santa_> clivejo uploads to staging with the new tooling
[17:43] <santa_> acheronuk uploads a "test" to tritemio (my private experimental pseudo-ppas)
[17:43] <clivejo> when you say new tooling, what do you mean?
[17:43] <santa_> the new scriptery
[17:43] <santa_> let me find that pdf
[17:45] <santa_> https://gitlab.com/jmsantamaria-papers/kubuntu-automation-design/blob/master/kubuntu_automation_design.pdf
[17:45] <santa_> it may need a few updates that pdf, but explains the general idea
[17:51] <santa_> indeed, I have to update that pdf a bit
[17:52] <clivejo> I modified git clone all a bit
[17:52] <clivejo> basically to work with the old tooling
[17:53] <santa_> yes, I know, I also added some improvements on top of that
[18:02] <clivejo> LP is sooooo slow!
[18:03] <santa_> slow doing what?
[18:04] <clivejo> publishing
[18:20]  * mamarley kicks LP.
[18:21] <clivejo> ah, that seems to have done it
[18:21]  * clivejo presses retry button
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[20:43] <clivejo> !info libqjson-dev
[20:43] <ubottu> libqjson-dev (source: qjson): Qt-based library that maps JSON data to QVariant objects - development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-3 (yakkety), package size 8 kB, installed size 79 kB
[20:43] <clivejo> !info libqjson-dev xenial
[20:43] <ubottu> libqjson-dev (source: qjson): Qt-based library that maps JSON data to QVariant objects - development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-3 (xenial), package size 8 kB, installed size 79 kB
[20:47] <valorie> hmmm, cdimage still doesn't have the right image for testing 
[20:47] <valorie> yofel called !testers | 16.04.1 candidates are out: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/363/builds
[20:48] <valorie> but wget, straight http, zsync and rsync don't work for me still
[20:48] <valorie> The requested URL /kubuntu/daily-live/20160718/xenial-desktop-amd64.iso was not found on this server.
[20:49] <valorie> at cdimage.ubuntu.com
[20:56] <acheronuk> valorie: all links still broken here as well
[20:59] <valorie> I"m wondering where to report this
[20:59] <valorie> #ubuntu-devel maybe?
[21:02] <acheronuk> if I go up a directory, it takes me to the YY daily builds, which is surely just wrong
[21:02] <acheronuk> XX daily builds are still being done http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/xenial/daily-live/current/
[21:03] <clivejo> acheronuk: you busy?
[21:03] <acheronuk> but surely an ISO release candidate should be neither of those really?
[21:04] <clivejo> why wont this build?
[21:04] <clivejo> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/273993556/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.breeze_4%3A5.7.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[21:05] <acheronuk> clivejo: sort of. from tomorrow pm I will be able to spend more time on this week here doing stuff
[21:05] <clivejo> I cant see the problem for looking at it
[21:06] <acheronuk> clivejo: I looked at that earlier, and don't immediately see why build deps for that failed!
[21:07] <acheronuk> a manual logging in in pbuilder and going through the deps may give a clue?
[21:08] <valorie> answer: valorie: s,daily,xenial/daily, and you're good to go.
[21:08] <valorie> so /kubuntu/daily-live/20160718/xenial-desktop-amd64.iso should be instead /kubuntu/xenial/daily-live/20160718/xenial-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:09] <valorie> zsync is workin'
[21:10] <clivejo> too tired to figure it out tonight
[21:10] <acheronuk> clive: ditto really
[21:18] <valorie> also: [14:10] <infinity> valorie: FWIW, a fresh respin is in progress as we speak.
[21:18] <acheronuk> clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20091936/
[21:28] <acheronuk> not sure where that is picking up the dep on libwayland-client0 (>= 1.9.91)
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[21:53] <acheronuk> clivejo: Ignore my last comment. Just me being dumb and tired and adding the wrong ppa version into pbuilder
[21:53] <acheronuk> I'll have another look tomorrow
[21:54] <clivejo> yeah, look tomorrow with fresh eyes