[05:04] <hikiko> hi
[05:16] <qengho> HI
[06:09] <duflu> Hi
[06:09] <duflu> hI
[06:09] <duflu> That's all of them
[06:11] <duflu> Anyone else finding fully updated yakkety can't start Unity7 today?
[06:11] <duflu> I know at least two of us hit this
[06:19] <pitti> WFM
[06:20] <duflu> If only I had a log file that could tell me why Compiz/Unity7 never starts
[06:20] <duflu> No crashes happened
[06:21] <pitti> ~/.cache/upstart/unity7.log something?
[06:21] <seb128> do you use yakkety-proposed? (just in case)
[06:22] <duflu> Nope, just yakkety
[06:22] <duflu> no PPAs
[06:22] <duflu> nothing custom
[06:22] <duflu> Myself and Brandon can't log in today
[06:22] <seb128> does it just send you back to the greeter?
[06:22] <seb128> maybe delete .cache/upstart then try to log in and see what logs are there
[06:23] <duflu> Grr. I'm spending more than half my days triaging bugs
[06:24] <duflu> Wait, too many crash reports now.
[06:24] <duflu> Need to delete them all and restart
[06:25] <qengho> pitti: Assuming yakkety, is there anything necessary to testing the local resolver changes, other than updating nsswitch.conf?
[06:25] <pitti> qengho: nsswitch should have been updated automatically, wasn't it?
[06:25] <qengho> pitti: I don't know.
[06:26] <pitti> qengho: the "hosts" line should have "resolve dns"
[06:26] <duflu> Weirdly we're in a situation where Unity8/Mir starts more reliably than Unity7/X11
[06:26] <duflu> For some values of "we"
[06:27] <seb128> yeah
[06:27] <seb128> we didn't have much unity7 session issues for  a long time
[06:28] <duflu> OK, first thing is indicator-datetime crashes at the login screen
[06:28] <duflu> That's a new upload
[06:28] <pitti> I get that too
[06:28] <seb128> right, seems th
[06:28] <seb128> right, seems they forgot to depends on whatever new gsettings schemas they need
[06:28] <seb128> dunno how that could land
[06:29] <seb128> Mirv, ^ can we get that looked at or reverted?
[06:29] <seb128> duflu, you are right, session not starting
[06:29] <duflu> seb128: yakkety Unity7?
[06:30] <seb128> yes
[06:30] <seb128> without dbus-user-session
[06:30] <seb128> could be a fallout of the systemd user session work we started
[06:31] <ricotz> hey desktopers
[06:31] <qengho> yo.
[06:33] <duflu> seb128: dbus errors are hurting GTK/Firefox etc in Xmir too. Lots of dbus errors
[06:33] <duflu> Only simple apps free of dbus run quickly
[06:34] <ricotz> hi, is there a known *xenial* problem where lightdm looses the session-indicator after running a gnome-flashback session
[06:35] <andyrock> morning
[06:35] <seb128> ricotz, hey, not a known bug afaik
[06:35] <seb128> hey andyrock, up early!
[06:36] <andyrock> :D
[06:36] <andyrock> i've to go back to Apulia this afternoon
[06:36] <duflu> seb128: Surprisingly first bug?   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1604251
[06:36] <duflu> It's private while retracing
[06:37] <seb128> k
[06:38] <ricotz> seb128, I see, this is while using the unity-greeter which I guess still uses some upstart bits
[06:38] <seb128> it does yes
[06:40] <seb128> robert_ancell, good morning!
[06:40] <robert_ancell> seb128, hi!
[06:41] <seb128> robert_ancell, sorry to start your day with a question ... ;-)
[06:41] <Mirv> seb128: indicator-datetime? ok, I'll test the new bileto revert feature and try preparing a silo for the release from 10h ago.
[06:41] <seb128> robert_ancell, is lightdm using the Exec= value of the sessions' .desktop directly?
[06:41] <seb128> or through X11 scripts and $STARTUP?
[06:41] <seb128> Mirv, thanks
[06:42] <pitti> seb128, duflu: I'll revert the Exec= change in gnome-session for now, that gets back to working session
[06:42] <robert_ancell> seb128, it runs it through /usr/sbin/lightdm-session which runs the X11 scripts
[06:42] <pitti> yeah, that's what I thought
[06:42] <duflu> pitti: Cool, thanks. Can I test a workaround?
[06:42] <pitti> and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99upstart completely overwrites it, so I couldn't see how it would be relevant
[06:43] <pitti> duflu: downgrade ubuntu-desktop or sudo vi /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop to replace Exec=gnome-session --session=ubuntu
[06:47] <pitti> uploaded
[06:49] <Mirv> not sure if you're already uploading a fix but a revert is building at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-017/+packages
[06:50] <seb128> no, we are working on gnome-session issues
[06:50] <seb128> thanks!
[06:52] <duflu> pitti: Thanks, that works
[06:55] <Mirv> seb128: oh, maybe it's because gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas is in proposed? no? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/silo/054 is the landing from where indicator-datetime came from
[06:55] <Mirv> hmm, I guess not if it was on desktop and touch-schemas is on touch only
[06:56] <seb128> Mirv, could be, but it should have a depends on the version it needs
[06:56] <Mirv> at least on my xenial desktop I don't have that package installed so maybe it's unrelated then
[07:01] <seb128> Mirv, well, they looks like they depends on a new key that was added to that schemas and it's missing the depends and overlooked the desktop case
[07:02] <Laney> morning!
[07:03] <Laney> ochosi: nice
[07:03] <pitti> robert_ancell: unping, I know what happened
[07:07] <ochosi> Laney: looking back, in terms of maintenance i'm sure it's the better way to go (SASS/SCSS)
[07:07] <ochosi> otherwise it's hard to impossible to go from one gtk3 version to the next
[07:07] <ochosi> it all just becomes far too unreadable
[07:07] <Laney> it's pretty mad
[07:09] <Trevinho> Morning!
[07:09] <seb128> hey Trevinho, Italy is waking up today!
[07:09] <seb128> they probably couldn't digest those big steaks
[07:12] <Trevinho> seb128: ahahah, that's the thing :-D
[07:12] <Trevinho> seb128: 1.2kg is the minimum cut you can get, so... We went for 1.6 :)
[07:13] <seb128> you are kidding right?
[07:13] <Trevinho> nope
[07:13] <seb128> each? ;-)
[07:13] <Laney> seb128 had a "Lady Steak" last night
[07:13] <Trevinho> No, no... That's to share
[07:13] <seb128> O_o
[07:13] <Laney> 175g
[07:13] <seb128> :-(
[07:13] <Trevinho> And it includes the bone.... But, still... Lots of meat.
[07:13]  * seb128 hides in shame
[07:13] <Trevinho> And the bone has the best meat... But you've to work on it
[07:14] <seb128> right
[07:14] <seb128> but 1.6k
[07:14] <seb128> man
[07:14] <qengho> Trevinho: 1.2 is a weird place to draw the line. Any idea why?
[07:14] <Trevinho> It's because Fiorentina steak has to have a certain thikness, and it can be done only in certain parts....
[07:15] <Trevinho> thus...
[07:15] <qengho> Okay, I see. I don't want to give any UKers ideasa about blaming the EU.
[07:17] <Trevinho> We can still export to them to very high prices... Although is not cheap here too... It goes from 38-45€/kg
[07:18] <Trevinho> anway... Laney did you see my patch/messages?
[07:22] <Laney> YEAH MAN
[07:22] <Laney> i'm building your nautilus right now
[07:29] <pitti> Laney: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/3750
[07:30] <tedg> seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-datetime/systemd-unit/+merge/300420
[07:53] <seb128> tedg, https://bloerg.net/2015/03/06/pkg-config-variables-in-cmake.html
[07:57] <willcooke> morning all
[07:57] <qengho> heyhey
[07:57] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:58] <willcooke> gawd, it was hot last night.
[07:58] <seb128> today is going to be the same according to L_aney
[07:59] <seb128> he showed us the bbc prevision
[07:59] <seb128> enjoy real summer!
[07:59] <willcooke> both days of it :)
[07:59] <seb128> prevision->forecast
[07:59] <seb128> well, it's most that you usually have
[07:59] <seb128> those brits never happy
[07:59] <willcooke> :)))
[07:59] <seb128> you should summer-exit
[07:59] <Laney> yeah, it goes away when I get home
[08:00] <Laney> THANKS LEAVE
[08:00] <willcooke> lol
[08:02] <qengho> EU Regulation VRQ 97.882§9 mandates July temperatures be no warmer than 306 Kelvin.
[08:20] <Sweet5hark1> when I was on vacation in Wales as a kid, they had a post with two pictures subtitled "summer in Wales" and "winter in Wales".
[08:21] <hikiko> robert_ancell: ping
[08:21] <hikiko> here?
[08:21] <robert_ancell> hikiko, hi
[08:21] <hikiko> hello :)
[08:21] <hikiko> I wanted to ask you something you might have done it
[08:21] <robert_ancell> sure
[08:22] <Sweet5hark1> Both picture showed a green field and a sheep ... in the rain. Coming from nothern germany, it felt very much like home (except for the sheep).
[08:26] <hikiko> robert_ancell: I have this "problem": my pc has 2 GPUs an nvidia and an intel. I want to test a bug in nvidia cards that occurs in multimonitor with the nouveau driver. So, I plugged 2 monitors in the nvidia and I had 2 monitors in the intel as well... So, on xfce4 I am able to choose any monitors I want (nvidia, intel share the same opengl implementation) but on unity I can't start the 2 nvidia
[08:26] <hikiko> monitors together... plus when I boot, only the monitors that are plugged in the intel are active (the intel driver works) can I somehow configure xserver and then lightdm to use the nvidia monitors with unity and the nouveau driver?
[08:27] <hikiko> :s/nvidia/nouveau/g
[08:27] <hikiko> I don't use the prop driver because it has its own gl implementation
[08:28] <robert_ancell> hikiko, you are switching between xfce/unity at the greeter? i.e. everything outside the session is the same?
[08:28] <hikiko> no
[08:29] <hikiko> robert_ancell: I use another session for xfce4, I run startx, different xserver instance
[08:29] <robert_ancell> hikiko, are you using any X configuration when using startx?
[08:30] <hikiko> no, I don't have any xorg.conf, I think the default settings are used
[08:30] <robert_ancell> hikiko, at the moment the only thing I can think of is unity-settings-daemon is doing something different to the xfce equivalent
[08:33] <hikiko> I'll compare those thanks robert_ancell :)
[08:44] <Laney> Trevinho: where do you see black corners?
[08:46] <Trevinho> Laney: in everything that is ran before unity
[08:47] <Trevinho> Laney: so for example if you open a natilus window
[08:47] <Laney> looks ok to me here
[08:47] <Laney> i guess it's racy?
[08:47] <Trevinho> Laney: run something like stop unity7 && gnome-calendar & sleep 1 && start unity7
[08:47] <Laney> ._.
[08:48] <Trevinho> Laney: no, it's because gtk doesn't reset the rgba value when a compositor arrives (this happens also with metacity and no gtk patches)
[08:48] <Trevinho> Laney: for unity7 there's another issue
[08:48] <Laney> roh
[08:49] <Trevinho> Laney: basically we include in _NET_SUPPORTED that we run in unity7, but gdk doesn't update the net supported list when it changes (but 1), plus that's delayed compared to the compositor appearance.. So we'd still need a timeout
[08:50] <Trevinho> I've some hacks around, but I've to fix gdk before, then I can fix the other part
[08:50] <Laney> oh right, so some stuff that comes up before unity doesn't notice this
[08:50] <Trevinho> some fixes can be shared with upstream too
[08:50] <Laney> thanks for looking, lookig forward to your patches ;-)
[08:51] <Trevinho> "(but 1)" ^^^ s/but/bug
[08:51] <Laney> i uploaded your nautilus to the ppa now
[08:51] <Laney> can haz wallpaper
[08:51] <Trevinho> Laney: funny is that without our gtk patches even the workaround of restarting it, wouldn't work
[08:54] <Laney> oh?
[08:56] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah... speaking of nautilus bg eh... However the patch I provided would fix it for both cases
[09:00] <Trevinho> as for gtk apps I'll see what I can do, but there's something wron in gdk about notifying the net supported changes
[09:01] <Laney> go chat to upstream :P
[09:01] <Trevinho> yeah, you're right
[09:28] <hikiko_> Laney, help :)
[09:29] <Laney> at your service
[09:29] <hikiko_> Laney, do you remember that multiple monitor bug a few days ago?
[09:29] <Laney> yeah
[09:29] <Laney> but
[09:29] <hikiko_> that you tested in your nouveau card
[09:30] <Laney> I'm not at home so I can't test stuff
[09:30]  * Laney is at seb's place
[09:30] <hikiko_> I got an nvidia myself
[09:30] <hikiko_> I just can't reproduce it
[09:30] <hikiko_> I have a 3ple monitor setup
[09:30] <Laney> using nouveau?
[09:30] <hikiko_> yes
[09:30] <Laney> it was just: open dash on second monitor
[09:30] <hikiko_> OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
[09:31] <Laney> on yakkety
[09:31] <Laney> but that change is reverted, so you need to install the old version or build from bzr or something
[09:31] <Laney> distro won't have the bug
[09:32] <hikiko_> oh I just reproduced it, I just needed to open the dash in the 3rd monitor so, it's the last monitor
[09:32] <hikiko_> thanks Laney :)
[09:32] <hikiko_> solved
[09:32] <hikiko_> "solved" :p I have to fix the bug now :p
[09:32] <hikiko_> but thank you :)
[09:33] <Laney> nice
[09:33] <Laney> good luck
[09:33] <hikiko_> thanks!
[09:48] <pitti> Laney:
[09:48] <pitti> Laney: journalctl -t gnome-keyring-daemon|cat
[10:32] <Laney> meow
[11:06] <Trevinho> hikiko|ln: I've like the impression is cased by the dash trying to get a location that is not correctly blurred because you're now passing to it some relative sizes
[11:06] <Trevinho> not sure what's the best way.. But i guess that's what happens...
[11:07] <Trevinho> Although... That wouldn't explain why this doesn't happen in non nvidia cards
[11:09] <hikiko|ln> yeah...
[11:10] <hikiko|ln> I'll look at the blur after lunch break it seems that it always starts in the 1st monitor so it can be the position
[11:11] <hikiko|ln> but why in nvidia only?
[11:29] <Trevinho> Laney: as for the greeter... Mh, which issue is there?
[11:30] <Trevinho> I also think there's something inside unity to change, since we're forcing a theme for force-quit dialogs and... that doesn't work anymore -_-
[11:42] <Sweet5hark1> dpm: when is that session about l10n and snap packages? do you have a schedule somewherE?
[12:27] <dpm> Sweet5hark1, https://trello.com/b/oMRh1Jtx/snappy-sprint-heidelberg-july-2016 - I've not yet put it on the schedule, but it'll most probably go on Thursday, as IIRC you couldn't make it on Wednesday
[12:29] <Sweet5hark1> dpm: yeah, I have visitors from RedHat on Wednesday. I also have two calls on Thursday -- I think I can skip the for once, but I'd like to know so I can tell them.
[12:56] <dpm> Sweet5hark1, we go through the schedule every evening, it's a bit dynamic and we need to make sure there is no conflict
[12:57] <Sweet5hark1> kk
[14:54] <Laney> Trevinho: get the password wrong or press escape on the password prompt
[15:09] <Laney> Trevinho/andyrock/hikiko: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2016-July/msg00017.html <- interesting for you
[15:28] <willcooke> Laney, seb128 - are you guys around for the meeting?
[15:29] <seb128> I can post my status update
[15:29] <seb128> going to be concise anyway
[15:29] <seb128> schprint
[15:29] <willcooke> :)
[15:30] <Laney> sure
[15:31] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-07-19
[15:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 19 15:31:04 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:31] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock (out), attente, desrt (hols),  dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron (out), hikiko (out), laney (sprint), qengho (out), seb128 (sprint), sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (sprint)
[15:31] <FJKong> hey
[15:32] <willcooke> I'm going to get started since I have mostly copy & paste today
[15:32] <willcooke> and we can get done quickly
[15:32] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[15:32] <willcooke> 1. [BUG:1506023] Unityshell sometimes is removed from active-plugins
[15:32] <willcooke> unity list - DONE
[15:32] <willcooke> 2. [BUG:1600389] Keep the screen locked if autologin is enabled - DONE
[15:32] <willcooke> 3. [BUG:1526322] Lock screen shows unnecessary warning about numlock - DONE
[15:32] <willcooke> 4. Bug Triaging
[15:32] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:32] <willcooke> Hey attente if you're not ready I can come back to you later
[15:32] <willcooke> counting down from 30....
[15:32] <attente> i'm ready
[15:32] <willcooke> ah cool!
[15:33] <attente> this week was just final revisions to the menu patches, which i just merged into gtk master this morning
[15:33] <willcooke> \o/
[15:33] <attente> also did/doing some more patch review of anpok's gtk-mir fixes
[15:33] <attente> that's all
[15:33] <attente> finally
[15:33] <willcooke> thanks attente, well done :)
[15:34] <attente> just writing up some requirements for the mir team now
[15:34] <willcooke> super, thanks
[15:34] <willcooke> attente, eof?
[15:35] <attente> yup, sorry, (eof)
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:35] <dgadomski> hey
[15:35] <dgadomski> * after some non-desktop distractions I'm back to working on bug #1598183
[15:35] <dgadomski> * back to darktable snap - debugging gtk-launch wrapper
[15:35] <dgadomski> eof
[15:35] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[15:35] <dgadomski> thanks
[15:35] <willcooke> let us know if you need help with the gtk launcher
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:36] <FJKong>  hi
[15:36] <FJKong> 1 analyze coredump file of sogou IM, prepare for improveing stability in next version of upgrading
[15:36] <FJKong> 2 translate for Photos Scope (bug/1588640)
[15:36] <FJKong> 3 fixing libpng dependency problem of sogou IM building
[15:36] <FJKong> eof
[15:36] <willcooke> thanks FJKong
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
[15:36] <willcooke> 1. network-manager SRU lands in xenial
[15:36] <willcooke> 2. libxml2/2.9.4
[15:36] <willcooke> 3. yet another dkms patch merge
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic hikiko
[15:36] <willcooke> - setup, lxc etc and merged my 1st snap (for hexchat)
[15:36] <willcooke> - spme minor fixes on nux (compile errors on other systems)
[15:36] <willcooke> - minor lowgfx u7 fixes for icon animations that won't be merged
[15:36] <willcooke> - reverted the multimonitor fix that revealed a blur related bug (only
[15:36] <willcooke> seen in nvidia cards) and started the debug (that today)
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:37] <Laney> erm
[15:37] <Laney> one second
[15:37] <willcooke> Laney, you want me to come back?
[15:37] <Laney> • Some work on the appstream staging environment, ready for me to move into next now
[15:37] <Laney> • Help with landing some unity changes and reverts, including into SRU
[15:37] <Laney> • Verify some SRUs
[15:37] <Laney> • Some small work on libpeas rdeps now that this is synced
[15:37] <Laney> • sprint on systemd --user, currently finding and fixing some issues
[15:37] <Laney> • Last theme things, merge some contributions, fix a few more issues, review some contributions from Trevinho, should be good enough to go this week or Monday now
[15:37] <Laney> 😨
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks a lot Laney
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:38] <willcooke> - Chromium deb security update 51.0.2704.106
[15:38] <willcooke> -- Fixing Precise builds and libstdc link
[15:38] <willcooke> -- Maybe switching to single binary instead of 40 dynamic linked libs.
[15:38] <willcooke> -- Finished moving from GYP to GN!
[15:38] <willcooke> -- Using ~8 more dev packages from repos, instead of so many tree-bundled copies.
[15:38] <willcooke> - dekko snap almost done. Needs theme fix (halp? Qt doesn't want Humanity icons!) and real-world mailing tests.
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:38] <seb128> • thursday off for french national day
[15:38] <seb128> • helped verifying some of the .1 SRUs
[15:38] <seb128> • systemd mini sprint
[15:38] <seb128>  
[15:38] <seb128> that's it for me this week
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark1
[15:38] <Sweet5hark1> - LibreOffice 5.2 rc2 now available as a snap with some basic l10n from the store
[15:38] <Sweet5hark1> - blogged about that and shared: https://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2016/07/18/libreoffice-5-2-0-2-available-in-the-snap-store/
[15:38] <Sweet5hark1> - various upstream code review
[15:38] <Sweet5hark1> - submitted papers for two talks at the LibreOffice conference in Brno
[15:38] <Sweet5hark1> - various snap bits about channels and audiences
[15:38] <Sweet5hark1> EOF
[15:39] <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark1 - nicely done on the upload to the store
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:39] <willcooke> * Discussed with snappy folks about extra bits required to support a cdparanoia snap, see snapcraft ML and bug #.
[15:39] <willcooke> * Finally got Pulse 9 into yakkety.
[15:39] <willcooke> * Worked on upstreaing a patch for libao to allow easier configuration of where it finds its config file, so that libao can be snapped properly without the need for patches. Not usptreamed yet, will do so in coming days.
[15:39] <willcooke> * Further improvements to flac and vorbis-tools snaps, need to get them somewhere public, although vorbis-tools requires libao, and the above problem needs solving.
[15:39] <willcooke> no till atm
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[15:39] <Trevinho> · Fixed nautilus black-background on Gtk 3.20
[15:39] <Trevinho> · Analyzed the issues causing non-rgba Gtk windows when compositor is not enabled
[15:39] <Trevinho> · Fixed regressions in Compiz CCP causing crashes
[15:39] <Trevinho> · Rewritten unity migration scripts to work with both unity profiles
[15:39] <Trevinho> · Fixed unity script to take care of the unity-lowgfx profile
[15:39] <Trevinho> · Disabled one remaining animation in switcher (when in lowgfx)
[15:39] <Trevinho> · lowgfx SRU finally landed in xenial-updates
[15:39] <Trevinho> · Some more work in the ubuntu system components menu items
[15:39] <Trevinho> · Learned how to make Orecchiette pasta
[15:39] <Trevinho> · END of Italians accidental (but actually productive) minisprint :/. Need to organize a new wider one.
[15:39] <Trevinho> ...
[15:40] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho :)
[15:40] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:40] <willcooke> - LightDM Unity 8 in-session greeter work
[15:40] <willcooke> - Snap sprint
[15:40] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[15:40] <willcooke> I'm off Thursday and Friday this week.
[15:40] <willcooke> I think normal service will be resumed next week.
[15:40] <Laney> party time?
[15:41] <willcooke> Well, interesting story
[15:41] <willcooke> I'm going to Dungeness
[15:41] <willcooke> and I will tell you all about it when (if) I get back
[15:41] <seb128> good luck!
[15:42] <Laney> maybe you'll gain some extra toes
[15:42] <willcooke> :))
[15:42] <willcooke> and then on Saturday I'm going to.....
[15:42] <willcooke> Sizewell
[15:42] <willcooke> because why not
[15:42] <willcooke> that's a pretty normal thing to do, right?
[15:42] <Laney> when in the vague eastern area...
[15:43] <Laney> is this organised or just you?
[15:43] <willcooke> Me, popey and aquarius
[15:43] <Laney> suspicious
[15:43] <willcooke> and if it works out, then I'll publish the agenda and route
[15:43] <seb128> there is no way u.k is leaving
[15:43] <seb128> they prefer to blow it out of the map
[15:43]  * Laney alerts the CNC
[15:44] <seb128> sounds like a wrap for the meeting though :-)
[15:44] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:44] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 19 15:44:30 2016 UTC.
[15:44] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-07-19-15.31.moin.txt
[15:44] <willcooke> thanks all
[15:44] <seb128> you get the badge of the most efficient meeting of the year
[15:44] <willcooke> ha
[15:45] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: lets just dry out the channel. then they cant leave!
[15:45] <seb128> well they are blowing the island off
[15:45] <Laney> some dutch person trolled me about brexit today
[15:45] <Sweet5hark1> we just drill a hole it the roof of the eurotunnel and wait until the channel is empty
[15:46] <Sweet5hark1> Trust me, I studied physics once.
[15:47]  * ogra_ also once read a physics book and totally approves 
[15:49] <seb128> lol
[15:50]  * Sweet5hark1 still loves the british humor. SkyNews just showed a Brexit teaser -- and as a background music they used the Who's "Wont get fooled again". No lyrics to be heard, but hilarious if you know the lyrics.
[16:04] <desrt> attente: congrats on the menu patch!
[16:04] <seb128> indeed, well done attente!
[16:05] <attente> desrt, seb128: thanks! ^_^
[16:05] <desrt> That is an awesome accomplishment
[16:05] <desrt> You should feel proud
[16:07] <attente> might pop open one of your coronas tonight
[16:07] <seb128> :-)
[16:46] <Laney> pitti: http://paste.debian.net/783210/
[16:48] <pitti>             dbus-update-activation-environment --systemd $v=$$(eval "echo \$$$${v}"); \
[16:48] <pitti>   yummy!
[17:44] <willcooke> quittin time
[17:45] <willcooke> night all
[17:45]  * willcooke goes to look for somewhere cool
[18:29] <pitti> bregma: hey!
[18:29] <pitti> bregma: do you happen to know any qemu -vga option that works with unity 8?
[18:29] <bregma> pitti, ho!
[18:30] <pitti> I tried vmware and qxl so far
[18:30] <bregma> pitti, no, I have never tried Unity 8 under QEMU
[18:30] <pitti> bregma: ok, thanks; I'll keep trying
[18:30] <bregma> Mir is sorely lacking proper VESA support