[00:12] adriano_: What's up? [00:12] I'm getting a poor performance in my laptop [00:12] Using Ubuntu-MATE [00:12] Or any other linux distribution [00:13] My CPU is AMD E-350 [00:13] adriano_: So *any* linux distro you try to run on this is "lagging", eh? [00:13] Yup [00:13] And Web Browser lag so much too [00:14] adriano_: Here's something to test out - since you're testing things out - download a 32-bit version (of whatever) and try that...see what you get, hmm? [00:14] My Laptop have 3gb RAM [00:14] It'll work? [00:16] I have a Windows 7 installation on another partition and runs smoothly [00:16] Anyway i'll try a 32bit version. [00:16] The Ubuntu-MATE it self. [00:16] adriano_: Look, that particular processor appears to have been specifically created for laptops with an MS OS on 'em...so, since most linux distros are fully 64-bit, they're going to push that puppy to the max...HOWEVER, if you want to test something out, try a current 32-bit version - OR - the other option is to get something "older" - like Ubuntu 14.04...and see how that does, hmm? [00:17] I see [00:17] But i believe you when said about MS OS improved CPUs [00:17] It makes me sad :-/ [00:18] I had an A4 Desktop [00:18] adriano_: But hey, get you the Ubuntu-Mate 16.04, pop it on a USB, and fire it up - test it...if it's fast? Well, then you have the option to install it, eh... [00:18] Man [00:18] Ok [00:18] I'm downloading right now [00:18] It's not about "MS OS Improved" CPU's - it's all "smoke and mirrors" - MS uses the CPU differently than does any other OS...so they take big shortcuts...(all based on lies to the public) [00:19] hummmm... Tell me more about this conspiracy :-P [00:23] adriano_: MS started to play the "Devil's game" back in 1991 - before Win95 came out - so, they've made "pushes" on AMD and Intel - along with all the rest of the hardware developers. Then into software developement. SO, this answers qeustions that are easily answered - WHY are all the games programmed to run on Windows? Why are some CPU's "fast" under Windows but slow on anything else? Why isn't MS Office compiled for linux [00:23] if it's compiled for OSX? Why does MS have such a huge part of the market share? (Because nearly every new PC has Windows on it - get it?) Does any of that make sense, hmm? [00:24] I see [00:24] I think make sense [00:26] I've found a xubuntu 16.04 i386 on my folders. I'm writing on an USB flash drive. [00:26] adriano_: Good on ya, mate. Boot it up, play with it - and then you can decide what to do. You've got options. [00:28] Well, in the worst case, i'll continue to use the Ubuntu-MATE i've already installed. [00:29] adriano_: Test it. If anything else, there are some tweaks to possibly make your current installation work a bit, er, well, faster than slow, eh? [00:39] Going to reboot my laptop [00:39] See ya [00:57] Cheers everyone. Since amd dropped fglrx for the 16.04 distros, anyone know the lead time of amdgpu? The open source driver is okay but I can't get boinc crunching working with it. Should I just drop back down to 14.04? [00:58] I talked to amd guy back in march and he says wait a couple months but as far as I can tell its not out yet? [01:03] adriano_: So? [01:03] YankDownUnder: I had little increase in performance [01:03] Thanks [01:03] It's not drastic, but better than i'm having with amd64 [01:04] going to switch to Ubuntu-MATE i386 [01:04] adriano_: So you've got that as an option...I also have to ask - when you installed Mate in the first place, did you install the suggested third party drivers for your system as well? [01:05] Yes [01:05] adriano_: Had to ask... [01:05] For the CPU, just a package called microcode [01:05] adriano_: Yes...that's kinda important... [01:07] adriano_: As well, you might want to look into the "Mate Tweak Tool" - which will assist in cutting down some things...along with that, you might want to disable some of the effects - anything to do with transparency or animation - etc etc etc..."clean up" things...that reduces the load on the CPU, ya know. [01:07] What does this do? [01:08] The microcode [01:08] adriano_: All of the "desktop effects" cause the CPU to work harder... [01:08] AH...the microcode is for directly "talking to the CPU" as it were. [01:10] In a ~90kb package [01:10] ? [01:10] adriano_: Yes...code is quite small...smaller than you might realise in some instances, my friend. [01:12] Anyway, thanks for the help YankDownUnder [01:13] adriano_: De nada, by all means, please have a great day. [01:13] Thanks [01:13] Hey [01:13] You talk portuguese? [01:14] adriano_: Ingles...de Los Estados Unidos...but I live in Australia now... :) [01:14] Oh, i see [01:14] By the way, i live in Brazil. Is night where i live :-) [01:15] So, have a good day to YankDownUnder [01:15] *too [01:15] adriano_: Brazil is beautiful - blessings, mate. [01:15] Ok, see ya. (Australia is awesome too) [04:20] hi [04:27] hello [04:56] how to burn a slide show in ubuntu mate16-4 ? can anyone advise me [05:07] 'burn a slide show? [05:14] hi === mortalius__ is now known as mortalius [08:13] morning, I have done something to my mate install, when I tap F12 it no longer drops down from the top of the screen its half way between monitors and half way down the screen [08:15] aaran: Have you logged out and back in again? [08:16] rebooted and its not changed [08:17] aaran: Right oh, fair enough. Strange that. [08:20] yeah, anything I can do to fix it? is there a config file that stores its location [08:20] aaran: Just a quick question - have you updated - like recently...? [08:20] I have the automatic updates runnin [08:20] g [08:21] aaran: Most of the actual configuration files will live in ~./config along with ~./local/share => that being said, something I've done in the past - especially when my desktop was acting freaky, was to log out of that account, go to the first TTY (ALT+F1), login and clean out all the crap in the ~./cache directly [08:24] Ok, whats the actually application that drops down when you press F12 is it just a standard terminal with some fancy settings ? [08:24] aaran: "tilda" [08:25] could I try removing and adding it again would that not work [08:25] if I told it to purge [08:26] aaran: If you look for the "tilda" configs/prefs and delete 'em, well, that SHOULD resolve the issue, ya reckon...just thinking from a logical perspective... [08:27] aaran: In ~./config/tilda => you'll find a config file => so, that being said, you could "killall -9 tilda", then delete that configuration file, then login again and see if it's all happy again, eh...? [08:29] Let me give that a try thanks [08:32] nope that did not work :( [08:32] also tried a purge after and that did not work either [08:32] whats the problem? [08:32] aaran: Can't blame solar flares...hmm... :) [08:32] pressing f12 drops tilda half way down the screen and split between 2 monitors [08:32] let me take a screenshot [08:34] https://s31.postimg.org/fv66trwaj/Screenshot_at_2016_07_19_09_33_41.png [08:34] thats 2 monitors, xchat is pushed up to the left of the right monitor [08:35] is that mate-terminal? [08:35] thats the terminal you get when you press f12 [08:35] aaran: Just another quick question - have you tried to change resolution and then change it back - to see if that does anything? [08:35] Akuli: "Tilda" [08:35] with tilda open or closed at the time? [08:35] aaran: Open [08:36] https://github.com/lanoxx/tilda/issues/131 [08:42] thanks I will take a look after lunch [08:42] Enjoy your lunch. I'll eat my dinner. ;) [08:42] just the first thing i found on google [08:47] In the next week, there should be heaps of strange issues as the last of the updates/upgrades for 16.04.1 are pushed out to the world...hmm... [12:19] ubuntu-mate the OS of champions [12:19] im an early adopter =) [12:20] i was soo excited when the first alpha of this ever came out [12:36] Hi all === adriano_ is now known as hoverboots [13:22] So... What about the snap packages? === james is now known as Guest45104 [14:40] gewei [14:40] dajiahao === apessoa is now known as Guest67795 [17:41] has anyone had luck install s4a (scratch 4 arduino) on mate 16.04? I am using a 64bit machine and need 32bit dependencies but when i try to get apt-get install ia32-libs as recommend, there isn't any package in the repo [17:44] rastacalavera: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 [17:44] sudo apt-get update [17:44] and retry [17:46] still says no installiation canidate [17:46] says that these are available instead "lib32ncurses5 lib32z1" [17:46] try: sudo apt-get install package-name:i386 [17:46] just put :i386 behind the packages you need in 32-bit form [17:47] well, they don't say what the specific package is called [17:47] http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package [17:47] the instructions i am following here: http://s4a.cat/ don't say either [17:48] when i run the app i get " could not find the module vm-sound-pulse aborted (core dumped) [17:49] would that be pulse audio 32bit stuff maybe? [17:49] i get this when i open the package in GDebi package installer [17:49] http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/16/0719/h_1468950611_3218190_a6aeaca9e1.png [17:50] allows me to install it, with 4 extra dependencies to install [17:50] i have amd64 with i386 added as well [17:50] try manually opening the .deb with GDebi, it should show you something similar [17:51] then reinstall [17:52] ok thanks i'll try [17:52] http://storage2.static.itmages.com/i/16/0719/h_1468950772_6404385_9acddefe92.png [17:52] i'll uninstall it first i guess [17:52] it just says i need these 4 extra i386 packages for it [17:53] it's likely these were not installed, forcibly skipped and being unavailable, earlier when you used dpkg manually to install the .devb [17:53] *.deb [17:54] i'm convinced it'll work [17:54] the problem i see is thats a very old binary compiled at a time multiarch wasn't very well defined (names lib32 in front of lib is a dead giveaway) [17:55] it might work doing fancy symlinks.. but a recompile would be the cleaner solution [17:55] or simply use an old debian install for it [17:57] the dependencies seem to check out though, over here [17:57] it could still work [17:57] hmm you might have luck using someone's ppa [17:57] then force install it [17:58] I'm going to try gdebi now, just finished uninstalling it [17:58] if ldd binary doesn't complain... [17:58] says it will install 24 additional packages [17:58] if these dependencies check out, there's a chance that kind of symlink stuff is already done, for background compat reasons [17:59] don't see the details like in your image [17:59] yeah that's an extra clickable button [18:00] *backward [18:01] this ppa has it: ppa:llxdev/xenial [18:02] if i were you, i'd get rid of that deb and use that instead [18:02] or compile it yourself [18:02] if this doens't work I'll go that route Artemis3 [18:02] thanks for the ppa link [18:02] did you just google s4a ppa to find it? [18:03] search inside launchpad [18:03] ah, i saw the package list but didn't know what category to search [18:03] http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ [18:03] you looked there? [18:03] just search the app and dig within the answers [18:03] nah at launchpad [18:03] oh ok sry [18:03] if its inthe official repo even better [18:04] do search there first [18:06] ok schaap137, the install still gave me the same error [18:17] Thanks for the help guys, I'll dig in later and hopefully it'll work out [19:16] hi [19:49] sup [19:51] greetings [19:53] In 16.04, is there an easy way to remove unwanted software (Thunderbird, Pidgin, etc.) without having to use a terminal? This is question is geared mostly for the common user that do not know how to use the terminal. [19:55] synaptic? [19:55] better yet, use another tty instead of the terminal! :D [19:59] Akuli: yeah, I gues Synaptic is an option. I just wish the new Software Boutique had the option to remove software that is preinstalled. [20:00] it doesn't? [20:00] i've heard its great, but i guess its not then [20:01] Akuli: it seems the new Software Boutique is only used for installing additional software. [20:01] then we need synaptics [20:01] personally i never use it :) [20:07] Looks like the installation of Ubuntu Software Center may be the better choice than Synaptics since it has better user interface for someone new to Linux and Ubuntu. [20:08] I just converted my Dad, a senior citizen, from Wincrap 10 to Ubuntu Mate 16.04 and he was asking how to remove software. I, personally, just bring up a terminal and remove that way but I can tell him to do that. He would need a nice GUI to help him out. [20:09] *can't tell him to do that [20:09] i can make a really basic gui remover [20:12] Next question: Does anyone know how to setup Ubuntu Mate as a lock down kiosk that launches a web browser to a specific web page at startup? [20:12] easy [20:12] set a start page in a web browser and add it in startup applications [20:13] he probably means something to prevent hassle with the system as well [20:13] *he/she [20:13] maybe the guest account? [20:13] if we could just create a similar setup there [20:13] Akuli: Well, whatever account is used to login would need to be locked down to just read only of that specific web site. Again, kiosk mode. [20:15] I can setup autolaunch of Firefox to a specific web page, that's the easy part. I just need a kiosk mode so that the browser fills the entire screen and that specific account is locked down to no other user. [20:15] you want another account for that [20:15] *no other use [20:16] I haven't figured out how to get that Firefox autolaunch to launch at full screen yet either [20:19] I'll be back on later... [20:20] hdmi audio to work [20:21] running ubuntu mate on my raspberry pi 3 and cant get AUDIO to work [20:21] any suggestions [23:27] Hi everyone... [23:28] hi mate|31880 [23:30] Hi ouroumov. I have many questions about Ubuntu Mate... Could you help me? I use Ubuntu 14.04.4 but wanna try ubuntu mate do you recommend that? [23:31] Yes [23:31] Especially if you're already using gnome-session-fallback on top of standard Ubuntu [23:32] What's your hardware like? [23:34] Well... I'm not a expert on Ubuntu. I tried to learn something about 3 years ago but none of i saw convinced to me. [23:35] 4GB RAM, 750GB DD... intel core i3.... [23:36] Do you have dedicated graphics hardware (AMD / NVIDIA) ? [23:37] Ayyy [23:39] Wait...please [23:40] mate|31880, I can provide you with a command to list your hardware specs if you want [23:41] Type this in a terminal open with (CTRL+ALT+T) and copy/paste the resulting url here: inxi -ACDSMNIG | nc termbin.com 9999 [23:41] ouroumov: Sure. That help. [23:43] (you can copy stuff from the terminal using "CTRL+SHIFT+C") [23:44] Yes. Thanks! [23:45] Oh, I see... That thing says NVIDIA. [23:45] The inxi command lists different aspects of your system's hardware [23:46] Including the drivers, which is neat. [23:47] So anyway mate|31880, from what you told me your hardware is more than enough to run Ubuntu MATE. [23:48] If you want to see what Ubuntu MATE can be made to look like, we have a pretty well stocked Screenshots category on the forums: https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/multimedia/screenshots [23:48] Sorry. I was searching you asked me. But I don't have install inxi. I'm installing right now. [23:48] oh [23:49] right, sorry I forgot you're on 14.04 [23:49] No problem [23:49] You can install it using: sudo apt install inxi [23:50] Thanks! Well. [1;34mGraphics: [0;37m [1;34mCard:[0;37m Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [23:52] mate|31880, use the command above to paste it on termbin.com rater, that way I can download it in my terminal and use the color codes (those [1,34m... stuff) [23:52] inxi -ACDSMNIG | nc termbin.com 9999 [23:53] I did. [23:54] It should give you an URL :) [23:54] I need the URL to find the correct paste [23:55] http://termbin.com/of22 [23:55] Here is http://termbin.com/of22 [23:55] Thanks [23:56] Okay, so I don't expect you to run into any problems due to your hardware [23:56] Everything should be OK [23:56] Oh wait, [23:56] You might encounter a Wifi problem [23:56] Yes? [23:57] I remember someone with a Qualcomm wifi having issue [23:57] But if it's working fine right now on 14.04 it should be OK once you install the driver pack [23:58] (You're guided through those steps by the Welcome splash screen after the installation) [23:58] (And it's a one-click install)