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mardy | jamesh: hi! Would you like to add https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/online-accounts-api/timeout-1603706/+merge/300416 to your silo? | 07:19 |
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* jamesh looks | 07:20 | |
jamesh | mardy: we've generally disabled "exit on inactivity" behaviour for tests. Wouldn't that make more sense? | 07:24 |
mardy | jamesh: it's something that we actually want to test :-) | 07:53 |
jamesh | mardy: sure, but you only need to test that in the "does the daemon exit on inactivity?" test | 07:54 |
mardy | jamesh: well, I also want to catch any regressions where the daemon exits when it shouldn't | 07:55 |
mardy | jamesh: I agree this could be restricted to a couple of tests, though, and not to the full suite | 07:56 |
jamesh | mardy: that would probably be the best option. For thumbnailer-service, we used an environment variable to override the inactivity timeout: had timeouts disabled entirely for most tests, and a fairly short timeout for the test that checks it actually exits. | 07:59 |
jamesh | mardy: anyway. The silo is now rebuilding with your branch added. | 08:00 |
mardy | jamesh: excellent, please let me know if you see some failures, then I'll have no choice than following your advice | 08:00 |
jamesh | well, the it didn't consistently fail before, and your changes will probably make them less likely. | 08:02 |
mardy | dbarth: looks like the fix for bug 1593805 is working fine, can you approve silo 14? | 08:54 |
ubot5 | bug 1593805 in libsignon-glib (Ubuntu) "libsignon-glib fail to authenticate account" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1593805 | 08:54 |
dbarth | mardy: ah cool; yup | 08:57 |
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brunch875 | Can krillin run in desktop mode / libertine? | 10:07 |
bregma | brunch875, yes, technically it can but realistically it's a little under-powered and short of storage, and does not have a way to connect an external display device making classic GUIs difficult to use | 10:23 |
bregma | you can, of course, always remote connect in using ssh or similar, if you're comfortable using only the command line | 10:24 |
matv1 | any news on that meizu mx6 release yet? that was suposed to be today right? | 10:25 |
tuttle955i | the keyboard has last word syndrome | 10:46 |
tuttle955i | syndrome | 10:46 |
jamesh | mardy: there were two build failures in the silo after adding the new MP, so it looks like the race condition is still present. I've left some details onhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/online-accounts-api/+bug/1603706 | 11:48 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1603706 in online-accounts-api (Ubuntu) "Possible races in tst_daemon tests." [High,Confirmed] | 11:48 |
mardy | jamesh: argh! Ok, thanks | 11:48 |
jamesh | mardy: it's the end of my work day, but if you want to try more builds, feel free to kick off more builds from https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1681 | 11:50 |
mardy | jamesh: ok! | 11:50 |
mardy | jamesh: btw, do you know what this error means? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/273906836/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.account-polld_0.1+16.04.20160627-0ubuntu5_BUILDING.txt.gz | 11:51 |
matv1 | what is the world coming to when 2 germans dont even get each others sense of humor :/ | 12:13 |
matv1 | --no-australia-mode | 12:13 |
ogra_ | yeah | 12:14 |
matv1 | dont worry ogra_ in holland we did laugh about that | 12:14 |
ogra_ | :) | 12:15 |
ogra_ | would be funny if oSoMoN now implemented it secretly and made it say something funny then though | 12:15 |
matv1 | that would be AWSUM! | 12:16 |
ogra_ | :) | 12:16 |
matv1 | but i guess even at Canonical there must be a rule about eastereggs :( | 12:16 |
* oSoMoN puts it in his list, schedules it for Easter 2017 | 12:17 | |
ogra_ | haha | 12:17 |
matv1 | lol :) | 12:17 |
matv1 | I guess you could make the full shell rotation switch listen to --no-australia-mode | 12:20 |
dobey | mardy: that means "go install" failed, and go tools are really bad at reporting what the problem is | 12:54 |
mardy | dobey: thanks! Will investigate | 13:04 |
david89 | Hello. Has anyone had any success using the | 13:16 |
david89 | Ubuntu SDK outside of Ubuntu? Am I mistaken in believing that it is only a QtCreator plugin? | 13:16 |
ogra_ | there is work going on to make the SDK a snap package ... then you should be able to just install it everywhere | 13:17 |
david89 | ogra_: any links I can look at? | 13:18 |
ogra_ | no idea ... once it is there you should be able to just "sudo snap install <however the name of teh snap will be>" | 13:19 |
dobey | once you install snap on a distro where it works :) | 13:19 |
david89 | yea I was about to ask.. | 13:20 |
ogra_ | it works on all distros | 13:20 |
ogra_ | well, except RHEL i guess | 13:20 |
dobey | except ones with old kernels? | 13:20 |
ogra_ | you just need to install snapd on your distro | 13:20 |
david89 | just checked Arch has snapd in community | 13:20 |
ogra_ | it defaults to devmode install on all distros that dont have the necessary bits | 13:20 |
dobey | oh yeah, arch should be "ok" | 13:21 |
david89 | I need to read up on these new 'packages' | 13:21 |
ogra_ | zbenjamin, ^^ do you know where the SDK snap stands ? | 13:21 |
ogra_ | (asking across the table via IRC :) ) | 13:21 |
david89 | ogra_: hahaha, thanks | 13:21 |
zbenjamin | ogra_: what do you mean? The IDE? Or the ui toolkit? | 13:22 |
david89 | IDe | 13:22 |
ogra_ | i thought there are plans to package the whole Ubuntu SDK as snap (i guess that would need both if you want to produce something useful with it) | 13:22 |
david89 | I mean, without being able to use the ui toolkit the IDe is poretty useless | 13:22 |
ogra_ | right | 13:22 |
zbenjamin | so, the next public release of the SDK will always use containers to build. SO in theory everywhere where you can have lxd containers the IDE should be useable | 13:23 |
ogra_ | well, david89 is asking about running the IDE (and sdk) on arch | 13:23 |
zbenjamin | we had a basic snappy version of the IDE before but it did lack all the work on interfaces. So i'm looking into whats required atm | 13:23 |
ogra_ | ah, cool | 13:24 |
zbenjamin | yes, so arch should be doable | 13:24 |
david89 | pretty much this ^. I tried out ubuntu in a vm but was having problems with QML and opengl | 13:24 |
zbenjamin | i will need to work on making sure to include all the required tools. So i think that could still take a while until we have something useable here | 13:24 |
ogra_ | it will likely not be small either :) | 13:25 |
ogra_ | but the ability to run it on all distros will compensate for that | 13:25 |
zbenjamin | no :D, the non working version of it i just snapped is 80Mb :D | 13:25 |
david89 | not sure where you guys work or what ubuntu plans are, but I think getting the IDE available to everyone should be a top priority | 13:25 |
ogra_ | oh, thats tiny ! | 13:25 |
zbenjamin | for now, without any tools | 13:25 |
ogra_ | i would have expected it to rather be in the several 100s | 13:26 |
zbenjamin | lets see when i'm done ;) | 13:26 |
ogra_ | :D | 13:26 |
zbenjamin | david89: just next to providing a way to build snaps FROM the IDE right ;) | 13:27 |
zbenjamin | david89: lots of top priority tasks atm | 13:27 |
david89 | for me thats the 'i' in IDe ;) | 13:27 |
zbenjamin | david89: right now we have only click packaging support | 13:28 |
david89 | well I'm pretty excited | 13:28 |
david89 | keep up the good work! | 13:28 |
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grasstype | hello | 13:44 |
david89 | Hi | 13:45 |
grasstype | It seems like finding manuals for things shouldn't be this hard | 13:46 |
grasstype | cpp has a couple of websites dedicated to it. But official and complete ncurses documentation seems to be a little wonky | 13:47 |
grasstype | tldp I guess is the place to go | 13:48 |
grasstype | ah! got id | 13:54 |
grasstype | :D | 13:54 |
david89 | grasstype: share! | 13:55 |
grasstype | apt-install ncurses-doc | 13:56 |
grasstype | bam, man page | 13:56 |
grasstype | which already changes how I've been using it from tutorials - using #include <curses.h> instead of #include <ncurses.h> | 13:57 |
david89 | what are you working on? | 13:59 |
grasstype | sorry about that. Playing with c++ and roguelikes | 14:00 |
grasstype | For some reason every now and then keys stop working in this app - can't delete, press enter, etc | 14:01 |
grasstype | Damn you OTA 11! or... whatever causes that. Reload fixes the problem though | 14:01 |
grasstype | But yeah, the problem with tutorials is there is there always seems to be a point where something isn't explained and doesn't make a whole lot of sense | 14:03 |
grasstype | even with the good ones | 14:03 |
grasstype | There was one by Solarian Programmer that I liked, but it refactored all the code into classes, sometimes without any clear benefit, and all without explaining implementation - I had to download his source code to figure that out | 14:05 |
grasstype | Which, btw, was fun. Started a couple days of delving into classes and whys and hows | 14:05 |
grasstype | funny thing is btw I chose my name before pokemon go came out, and now I feel prophetic | 14:13 |
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Guest90180 | Does anyone know if there is a version of linux that will allow you to use a touch screen on a laptop i.e. Lenovo Flex 3 | 17:20 |
k1l | Guest90180: this is the ubuntu-touch (phone) channel. for ubuntu (and touchscreen) issue ask in #ubuntu . for general linux help ask in ##linux | 17:21 |
altker128 | Random observation: Using "interactive" as the CPU governor on N4 has made the responsiveness better and has not (to my observation) negatively affected battery life | 17:23 |
k1l | uh, the governour topic is a very controversial one on android too. there are lots of custom kernels tweaking the governours | 17:25 |
mhall119 | mariogrip: will be there in 2 minutes | 17:32 |
mariogrip | mhall119: ack | 17:32 |
altker128 | k1l: Yeah, I looked at some of the actual code and kernel commits. I think Intel did a study on this and showed it's better to ratchet the CPU to 100%, finish the workload and drop to idle than jump between states. Once you launch an app, after all the dynamic stuff, the CPU utilization should drop to near 0. | 17:34 |
mhall119 | mariogrip: bah, hangouts aren't working, give me a minute | 17:36 |
mariogrip | mhall119: no problem | 17:37 |
ahoneybun | what's going on | 17:42 |
ahoneybun | what is ubuntu-pd and staging? | 17:42 |
ahoneybun | mariogrip: is this the patreon hangout? | 17:43 |
ahayzen | Hi, i've noted weird stuff happening recently on my mako (updates not working and claiming i need to sign in, the hotspot option being available! the system-settings app reporting that i'm on revision 1) ... Now while reporting unrelated another bug and trying to get the device version, i ran $ system-image-cli -i and got "ImportError: Entry point ('console_scripts', 'system-image-cli') not found" ... is this a known issue with todays | 17:46 |
ahayzen | image or should i just reflash ? | 17:46 |
ahoneybun | that's odd ahayzen | 17:52 |
ahoneybun | I'm on stable so can't say for sure | 17:52 |
ahoneybun | also made it writable lol | 17:52 |
ahayzen | yeah i'm on ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en | 17:52 |
ahayzen | and mine has been writable for a few years now :-) .. but i only reflashed it this morning! | 17:53 |
ahoneybun | any reason why there is a krillen image for flo? | 17:53 |
ahayzen | you used to get the here stuff if you used krillin for mako, dunno if still the case | 17:53 |
ahoneybun | moving to rc-proposed/ubuntu for flo | 17:53 |
mariogrip | ahoneybun: no, it's the weekly call with mhall119 | 18:05 |
dobey | ahoneybun: you probably broke it, making it writable | 18:11 |
padhu | anybody using moto E gen 1 | 18:11 |
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embrik | Sorry to say, but I want to install android on my ubuntu phone Aquaris 4.5. I've tried to follow a how-to, but it stops on the first step, trying to start a flash-tool | 19:52 |
k1l | there is a tool from bq to flash android on it. be aware to put your device into fastboot mode. | 19:53 |
embrik | k1l, Ok, thanks I'll search there then | 19:55 |
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hellslinger | hi guys, I have an aquarius m10, and I did an apt dist-upgrade yesterday with the root partition remounted read/write and now the screen won't turn off and the power button does nothing, any ideas? | 22:14 |
dobey | ... | 22:24 |
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