=== raj is now known as Guest19621 === raj` is now known as raj === salem_ is now known as _salem === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:19] jamesh: hi! Would you like to add https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/online-accounts-api/timeout-1603706/+merge/300416 to your silo? [07:20] * jamesh looks [07:24] mardy: we've generally disabled "exit on inactivity" behaviour for tests. Wouldn't that make more sense? [07:53] jamesh: it's something that we actually want to test :-) [07:54] mardy: sure, but you only need to test that in the "does the daemon exit on inactivity?" test [07:55] jamesh: well, I also want to catch any regressions where the daemon exits when it shouldn't [07:56] jamesh: I agree this could be restricted to a couple of tests, though, and not to the full suite [07:59] mardy: that would probably be the best option. For thumbnailer-service, we used an environment variable to override the inactivity timeout: had timeouts disabled entirely for most tests, and a fairly short timeout for the test that checks it actually exits. [08:00] mardy: anyway. The silo is now rebuilding with your branch added. [08:00] jamesh: excellent, please let me know if you see some failures, then I'll have no choice than following your advice [08:02] well, the it didn't consistently fail before, and your changes will probably make them less likely. [08:54] dbarth: looks like the fix for bug 1593805 is working fine, can you approve silo 14? [08:54] bug 1593805 in libsignon-glib (Ubuntu) "libsignon-glib fail to authenticate account" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1593805 [08:57] mardy: ah cool; yup === hasselmm1 is now known as hasselmm [10:07] Can krillin run in desktop mode / libertine? [10:23] brunch875, yes, technically it can but realistically it's a little under-powered and short of storage, and does not have a way to connect an external display device making classic GUIs difficult to use [10:24] you can, of course, always remote connect in using ssh or similar, if you're comfortable using only the command line [10:25] any news on that meizu mx6 release yet? that was suposed to be today right? [10:46] the keyboard has last word syndrome [10:46] syndrome [11:48] mardy: there were two build failures in the silo after adding the new MP, so it looks like the race condition is still present. I've left some details onhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/online-accounts-api/+bug/1603706 [11:48] Launchpad bug 1603706 in online-accounts-api (Ubuntu) "Possible races in tst_daemon tests." [High,Confirmed] [11:48] jamesh: argh! Ok, thanks [11:50] mardy: it's the end of my work day, but if you want to try more builds, feel free to kick off more builds from https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1681 [11:50] jamesh: ok! [11:51] jamesh: btw, do you know what this error means? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/273906836/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.account-polld_0.1+16.04.20160627-0ubuntu5_BUILDING.txt.gz [12:13] what is the world coming to when 2 germans dont even get each others sense of humor :/ [12:13] --no-australia-mode [12:14] yeah [12:14] dont worry ogra_ in holland we did laugh about that [12:15] :) [12:15] would be funny if oSoMoN now implemented it secretly and made it say something funny then though [12:16] that would be AWSUM! [12:16] :) [12:16] but i guess even at Canonical there must be a rule about eastereggs :( [12:17] * oSoMoN puts it in his list, schedules it for Easter 2017 [12:17] haha [12:17] lol :) [12:20] I guess you could make the full shell rotation switch listen to --no-australia-mode [12:54] mardy: that means "go install" failed, and go tools are really bad at reporting what the problem is [13:04] dobey: thanks! Will investigate [13:16] Hello. Has anyone had any success using the [13:16] Ubuntu SDK outside of Ubuntu? Am I mistaken in believing that it is only a QtCreator plugin? [13:17] there is work going on to make the SDK a snap package ... then you should be able to just install it everywhere [13:18] ogra_: any links I can look at? [13:19] no idea ... once it is there you should be able to just "sudo snap install " [13:19] once you install snap on a distro where it works :) [13:20] yea I was about to ask.. [13:20] it works on all distros [13:20] well, except RHEL i guess [13:20] except ones with old kernels? [13:20] you just need to install snapd on your distro [13:20] just checked Arch has snapd in community [13:20] it defaults to devmode install on all distros that dont have the necessary bits [13:21] oh yeah, arch should be "ok" [13:21] I need to read up on these new 'packages' [13:21] zbenjamin, ^^ do you know where the SDK snap stands ? [13:21] (asking across the table via IRC :) ) [13:21] ogra_: hahaha, thanks [13:22] ogra_: what do you mean? The IDE? Or the ui toolkit? [13:22] IDe [13:22] i thought there are plans to package the whole Ubuntu SDK as snap (i guess that would need both if you want to produce something useful with it) [13:22] I mean, without being able to use the ui toolkit the IDe is poretty useless [13:22] right [13:23] so, the next public release of the SDK will always use containers to build. SO in theory everywhere where you can have lxd containers the IDE should be useable [13:23] well, david89 is asking about running the IDE (and sdk) on arch [13:23] we had a basic snappy version of the IDE before but it did lack all the work on interfaces. So i'm looking into whats required atm [13:24] ah, cool [13:24] yes, so arch should be doable [13:24] pretty much this ^. I tried out ubuntu in a vm but was having problems with QML and opengl [13:24] i will need to work on making sure to include all the required tools. So i think that could still take a while until we have something useable here [13:25] it will likely not be small either :) [13:25] but the ability to run it on all distros will compensate for that [13:25] no :D, the non working version of it i just snapped is 80Mb :D [13:25] not sure where you guys work or what ubuntu plans are, but I think getting the IDE available to everyone should be a top priority [13:25] oh, thats tiny ! [13:25] for now, without any tools [13:26] i would have expected it to rather be in the several 100s [13:26] lets see when i'm done ;) [13:26] :D [13:27] david89: just next to providing a way to build snaps FROM the IDE right ;) [13:27] david89: lots of top priority tasks atm [13:27] for me thats the 'i' in IDe ;) [13:28] david89: right now we have only click packaging support [13:28] well I'm pretty excited [13:28] keep up the good work! === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:44] hello [13:45] Hi [13:46] It seems like finding manuals for things shouldn't be this hard [13:47] cpp has a couple of websites dedicated to it. But official and complete ncurses documentation seems to be a little wonky [13:48] tldp I guess is the place to go [13:54] ah! got id [13:54] :D [13:55] grasstype: share! [13:56] apt-install ncurses-doc [13:56] bam, man page [13:57] which already changes how I've been using it from tutorials - using #include instead of #include [13:59] what are you working on? [14:00] sorry about that. Playing with c++ and roguelikes [14:01] For some reason every now and then keys stop working in this app - can't delete, press enter, etc [14:01] Damn you OTA 11! or... whatever causes that. Reload fixes the problem though [14:03] But yeah, the problem with tutorials is there is there always seems to be a point where something isn't explained and doesn't make a whole lot of sense [14:03] even with the good ones [14:05] There was one by Solarian Programmer that I liked, but it refactored all the code into classes, sometimes without any clear benefit, and all without explaining implementation - I had to download his source code to figure that out [14:05] Which, btw, was fun. Started a couple days of delving into classes and whys and hows [14:13] funny thing is btw I chose my name before pokemon go came out, and now I feel prophetic === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === danwe1 is now known as danwe === aaron is now known as Guest65680 === Guest65680 is now known as ahoneybun === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === JanC is now known as Guest39320 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === Locke is now known as Guest90180 [17:20] Does anyone know if there is a version of linux that will allow you to use a touch screen on a laptop i.e. Lenovo Flex 3 [17:21] Guest90180: this is the ubuntu-touch (phone) channel. for ubuntu (and touchscreen) issue ask in #ubuntu . for general linux help ask in ##linux [17:23] Random observation: Using "interactive" as the CPU governor on N4 has made the responsiveness better and has not (to my observation) negatively affected battery life [17:25] uh, the governour topic is a very controversial one on android too. there are lots of custom kernels tweaking the governours [17:32] mariogrip: will be there in 2 minutes [17:32] mhall119: ack [17:34] k1l: Yeah, I looked at some of the actual code and kernel commits. I think Intel did a study on this and showed it's better to ratchet the CPU to 100%, finish the workload and drop to idle than jump between states. Once you launch an app, after all the dynamic stuff, the CPU utilization should drop to near 0. [17:36] mariogrip: bah, hangouts aren't working, give me a minute [17:37] mhall119: no problem [17:42] what's going on [17:42] what is ubuntu-pd and staging? [17:43] mariogrip: is this the patreon hangout? [17:46] Hi, i've noted weird stuff happening recently on my mako (updates not working and claiming i need to sign in, the hotspot option being available! the system-settings app reporting that i'm on revision 1) ... Now while reporting unrelated another bug and trying to get the device version, i ran $ system-image-cli -i and got "ImportError: Entry point ('console_scripts', 'system-image-cli') not found" ... is this a known issue with todays [17:46] image or should i just reflash ? [17:52] that's odd ahayzen [17:52] I'm on stable so can't say for sure [17:52] also made it writable lol [17:52] yeah i'm on ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en [17:53] and mine has been writable for a few years now :-) .. but i only reflashed it this morning! [17:53] any reason why there is a krillen image for flo? [17:53] you used to get the here stuff if you used krillin for mako, dunno if still the case [17:53] moving to rc-proposed/ubuntu for flo [18:05] ahoneybun: no, it's the weekly call with mhall119 [18:11] ahoneybun: you probably broke it, making it writable [18:11] anybody using moto E gen 1 === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [19:52] Sorry to say, but I want to install android on my ubuntu phone Aquaris 4.5. I've tried to follow a how-to, but it stops on the first step, trying to start a flash-tool [19:53] there is a tool from bq to flash android on it. be aware to put your device into fastboot mode. [19:55] k1l, Ok, thanks I'll search there then === salem_ is now known as _salem [22:14] hi guys, I have an aquarius m10, and I did an apt dist-upgrade yesterday with the root partition remounted read/write and now the screen won't turn off and the power button does nothing, any ideas? [22:24] ...