[00:00] <daftykins> argh it fires up a demo just viewing that page
[00:00] <daftykins> BE WARNED
[00:09] <diddledan_> it's not an illegal file though, so it only uses your bandwidth for a bit
[00:09] <diddledan_> until you leave the page
[00:09] <daftykins> yeah just didn't fancy the peer connections if it was going to share to more visitors
[00:37] <daftykins> diddledan_: a mate has been keeping his Nexus 4 on an ancient android version because they developed a flaw where the front facing camera (i think he likes to skype his partner with it) being used can totally bug out the phone... today he messaged to say he's on too old a version to install pokémon go.
[00:37] <daftykins> so that's at least one soul saved...
[00:39] <zmoylan-pi> he can buy a cheap burner android for pokemon go... :-P
[00:41] <daftykins> well he just has to suck it up and update the phone
[00:41] <diddledan_> and stop skyping his willy to his partner
[00:41] <diddledan_> sorry
[00:41] <daftykins> precisely
[00:42] <daftykins> no more free willy
[00:42] <daftykins> aww man that should've been the headline at the reg when ubuntu 14.10 went EOL :)
[00:42] <diddledan_> isn't willy 15.10?
[00:42] <zmoylan-pi> so opera isn't been bought by the chinese.  only their browsers
[00:44] <daftykins> diddledan_: sorry yep, right you are - mental typo.
[00:52] <diddledan_> why can't foreigners understand that it's Ubuntu year.month[with-preceeding-zero] and assume that there's a thing called Ubuntu 16?!?!
[00:53] <diddledan_> this is an awesome one to ubuntu-devel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2016-July/016741.html
[00:55] <daftykins> we had another of those irritating ones in #ubuntu-discuss yesterday(ish) saying all ubuntu mirrors should be HTTPS.
[00:56] <diddledan_> that wouldn't make a difference to security
[00:56] <diddledan_> everything is PGP signed
[00:57] <diddledan_> I've had similar discussions myself
[00:57] <daftykins> i think their angle is that a new user would not verify that
[00:58] <daftykins> but i think that person was just a tinfoil flouter
[00:59] <zmoylan-pi> if they're not using lead foil by now how can you take them seriously... :-P
[00:59] <diddledan_> ^^ +2
[01:00] <daftykins> XD
[01:00] <daftykins> they complained about the heavy hats
[01:01] <daftykins> "something something helmet hair"
[01:02] <daftykins> i've ordered an £80 new mechanical keyboard!
[01:03] <zmoylan-pi> that's just the paranoia from the lead exposure kicking in...
[01:05] <daftykins> you might say they'll be lead to ruin
[01:06] <diddledan_> damn that's an expensive keyboard
[01:06] <daftykins> oh my word, Toshiba are making QLC NAND - (quad level cell)
[01:06] <diddledan_> what did you get?
[01:06] <diddledan_> yeah I saw something about QLC earlier on the reg but didn't read it
[01:07] <daftykins> not really, my original blank das keyboard from many moons ago was a good £120 back then
[01:07] <daftykins> mmm, avoid it - all TLC and further should be banished!
[01:08] <daftykins> https://dixunusmoumzz.cloudfront.net/filer_public/f3/01/f3017669-5604-4fcd-943b-a6263d942658/apexm500_keyboard_design_merged_02.png
[01:08] <daftykins> steelseries Apex M500
[01:08] <daftykins> believe it or not this is the least gimmicky one i could find
[01:08] <diddledan_> looks like an IBM
[01:08] <diddledan_> although.. blue moodlighting?!
[01:09] <daftykins> i'll turn that off, but i don't mind the idea of a slight backlight on
[01:09] <daftykins> sometimes i'm lurking in the dingy dark room ;)
[01:10] <diddledan_> for when you compute beyond dusk without getting-up and thus are sitting in a dark room because the light switch is too far away
[01:10] <diddledan_> wtf key is that next to right-alt?
[01:11] <daftykins> yeah that's the one disappointing thing, silly custom key
[01:12] <daftykins> of course that's US layout, i got a UK off amazon - or rather it says they'll get stock in 1-2 months ;)
[01:12] <diddledan_> damn that's a long time to wait for instant gratification
[01:13] <daftykins> o0
[01:13] <daftykins> it's really sad to be typing on a membrane again :(
[01:13] <daftykins> why oh why das, did you have to fail so partially
[01:13] <diddledan_> insane in the membrane
[01:13] <daftykins> i'm kinda sad to have something labelled again
[01:13] <diddledan_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAlNrtcPCLw
[01:13] <daftykins> quite enjoyed friends not being able to use my PC
[01:28] <diddledan_> I wonder when the new google nexus device(s) are due
[01:29] <daftykins> i just read a suggestion that my N5 might get 7 Nougat after all - and also claims that August time might bring a final together with talk of next devices
[01:30] <daftykins> i can stay put if it gets 7
[01:30] <daftykins> i got a new battery rear cover for £12 on ebay, seems to have sorted my poor signal down here in the granite of my ground floor
[01:32] <daftykins> my my my, what to do.
[01:33] <zmoylan-pi> when signals can't make it through phone cases... :-)
[01:34] <daftykins> no i think it's that my friend opened it up and snapped the clips, this design has antennae in the rear panel
[01:34] <daftykins> i reckon it must've had a weak or temperamental connection
[01:34] <zmoylan-pi> weird
[01:35] <daftykins> you guys ever get that problem where you're trying to get someone to do some work for you, but they never call back? :|
[01:35] <daftykins> so annoying to have to chase someone, it's not even work for me, but a client
[01:38] <diddledan_> sweary: https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea/status/755214841187565568
[01:42] <daftykins> wow that is an angry creature
[01:42] <zmoylan-pi> i reckon i know so many areas of computing because it's often impossible to depend on others
[01:42] <daftykins> i happily tell people to change their OS when they're being idiots :)
[01:42] <diddledan_> what do you tell them to use?
[01:42] <diddledan_> winblows?
[01:43] <diddledan_> :-p
[01:43] <zmoylan-pi> dos? :-d
[01:43]  * diddledan_ is appling right now
[01:43] <daftykins> well as an example, over in #kodi we often get folks trying to use a distro which doesn't have packages, so i say just use a *buntu and get on with life, but then you get all the politics and how they won't run a *buntu because they don't like the cereal Mark Shuttleworth eats and all that bs
[01:44] <diddledan_> omg he eats cereal?!
[01:44] <diddledan_> cereal killer!
[01:44] <daftykins> ikr!
[01:44] <daftykins> he's like Dexter Morgan 2.0
[01:44] <diddledan_> exactly!
[01:45] <daftykins> i reckon i'm gonna work on the third PC, complete the fleet and then consider listing them for sale
[01:48] <daftykins> this might end up being a mistake :P
[02:57] <ali1234> daftykins: tell them to use debian then
[02:58] <daftykins> no, that's what i sway them away from
[02:59] <daftykins> deb trashes the packages because of their policy on not having the integrated ffmpeg
[02:59] <ali1234> oh, it's one of those
[02:59] <daftykins> they're also typically behind on versions with their own, modified ones
[02:59] <ali1234> i always forget how broken kodi actually is
[03:00] <daftykins> you say it's broken because it uses ffmpeg internally?
[03:00] <ali1234> no, it's broken because the developers expect every operating system in the world to bend to their will
[03:00] <ali1234> fairly common really
[03:01] <daftykins> so they should do it the debian way huh?
[03:01] <ali1234> they should let debian do whatever they want with the code
[03:01] <ali1234> or not release it under an open license
[03:02] <daftykins> but they do, it's me that's saying debian folks should take their high horse position that breaks the program elsewhere :)
[03:02] <ali1234> it wouldn't break a properly written piece of software
[03:02] <ali1234> hence kodi is broken
[03:03] <daftykins> ffmpeg changes too quickly to be relied upon as it gets updated
[03:03] <daftykins> i see where you're coming from but that attitude is exactly what's wrong with open source
[03:03] <ali1234> well, it's a good thing debian has a stable release policy then, isn't it?
[03:04] <daftykins> i think there's more to it than that
[03:04] <ali1234> there's always more to it
[03:04] <daftykins> sorry, did i insult your distro of choice?
[03:04] <ali1234> no. i don't use debian
[03:05] <daftykins> then cut the crap
[03:05] <ali1234> no.
[03:05] <daftykins> oh look, a tumbleweed
[03:11] <diddledan_> I'm still awake?!
[03:11] <diddledan_> wtf is wrong with me!!
[03:11] <diddledan_> and why is there a person here with the name "wrong"?
[03:11] <Myrtti> because it's hot
[03:11] <diddledan_> ello Myrtti
[03:12] <Myrtti> diddledan_: mmmrrrh.
[03:12] <diddledan_> :-)
[03:13] <mappps> +hola
[03:15] <daftykins> o0
[03:15] <mappps> :)
[03:15] <daftykins> allo
[03:25] <zmoylan-1i> add a little heat and everyone is awake
[03:26] <daftykins> =]
[03:26] <mappps> just speaking to my friend
[03:26] <mappps> the sooner eu is disbanded the better
[03:27] <zmoylan-1i> of course someone will have to write and correct the daily mail that hackers in this weather still code at night by the light of their screens but have their hoodies down...
[03:27] <zmoylan-1i> the eu will be around a long time.  too useful to not exist
[03:28] <mappps> nah
[03:28] <mappps> its done
[03:28] <mappps> unions dont work
[03:28] <mappps> look at whats happening
[03:28] <zmoylan-1i> unions work very well
[03:28] <zmoylan-pi> most of the rights workers have came from unions
[03:30] <ali1234> he doesn't mean that kind of union
[03:31] <mappps> annoyed me tonight
[03:31] <mappps> my mate said only loses smoke..knowing my mum smoked and died..and i smoke
[03:32] <zmoylan-pi> smoking is an addiction.  my brother smokes on and off.  he's quit multiple times but in high stress times goes back to ciggies.  currently he vapes which so far the evidince is that it's not as bad...
[03:33] <mappps> it is what it is
[03:33] <mappps> we are all adults
[03:34] <zmoylan-pi> some of us are more susceptible to addictions than others so it's not a level playing field
[03:35] <mappps> I drink and smoke ....i wish i had a famly and kids but i dont
[03:36] <mappps> instead im always out
[03:36] <mappps> probably average 30pints a week
[03:37] <ali1234> you don't have to go out to drink and smoke all day
[03:38] <mappps> i work too:)
[03:38] <daftykins> lawl
[03:39] <mappps> i havent seen my sister for 2 years you know, she lives near my dad
[03:39] <mappps> she had a kid a year ago..and yet i see my friends kids way more than her
[03:39] <mappps> but its life
[03:56] <daftykins> idgaf about family
[03:57] <mappps> ;]
[03:57] <zmoylan-pi> haven't seen some of my family in over 15 years, don't plan on changing that ever
[03:57] <mappps> you dont live at home daftykins ?
[03:58] <daftykins> no i have my own place in the capital
[03:58] <daftykins> lived here 3.5 years now
[03:58] <daftykins> family is a bit different on an island though, all too close...
[03:58] <mappps> people say "oh you havent seen your niece" -- hang on
[03:59] <zmoylan-pi> living in ireland i wouldn't know about that at all... :-P
[03:59] <mappps> they could come here
[03:59] <mappps> gib vs uk...hardly a holiday for me in uk
[03:59] <mappps> plus im told i cant drink
[03:59] <mappps> its like being at school
[04:00] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: but there's miles! ;)
[04:00] <mappps> so i may aswell stay where i am:P
[04:02] <mappps> i played blackjack for 2 hours....boring as
[04:02] <mappps> but its that or drink
[04:02] <daftykins> pretty sure there are other options!
[04:02] <mappps> annoying had to play £25 a hand...other table was full of people i dont want to speak to
[04:02] <daftykins> D:
[04:03] <daftykins> ah your new Gib family! ;)
[04:03] <mappps> hahaha no
[04:03] <mappps> idiot at te casino says " are you a member" "no, why bother" "you get points"
[04:03] <mappps> so yea you get one beer after yu lose 1k
[04:03] <mappps> wow
[04:04] <mappps> think i can manage without:P
[04:04] <mappps> i dont want these people knowing where i live or what i do
[04:05] <daftykins> what a deal!
[04:07] <mappps> best part is
[04:07] <mappps> these people are so stupid
[04:07] <mappps> they ask my name i say mark plant
[04:07] <mappps> "not understand"
[04:07] <mappps> "plant like in the garden"
[04:07] <mappps> its not even a hard surname
[04:36] <mappps> all gone sleep?
[04:41] <Myrtti> trying to
[04:42] <daftykins> must eat ice cream to cool down
[04:42] <daftykins> nah i finished a PC upstairs :P
[04:44] <mappps> lol
[04:44] <mappps> ice cream now?
[04:52] <daftykins> it worked!
[04:52] <daftykins> hells yeah, i'm dying here
[04:52] <daftykins> i was just doing some labour intensive work in an already hot room, i'm knackered!
[04:52] <daftykins> down here on my coolest floor it's 24 deg
[04:56] <mappps> wow
[04:56] <mappps> its that hot there?
[04:56] <daftykins> yip
[04:57] <mappps> i just spoke to my dad, its gonna be 32c in london today
[04:57] <mappps> what the hell
[04:57] <mappps> lol
[04:57] <mappps> hotter than here
[04:57] <zmoylan-pi> hotter in uk and ireland in someplaces than the med allegedly
[05:00] <daftykins> "Weather for Guernsey, United Kingdom | Temperature: 72°F / 22°C; Humidity: 69%"
[05:00] <daftykins> 22, @ 6am
[05:04] <mappps> wow
[05:05] <daftykins> my mates are telling me they're enjoying being at work XD
[05:05] <mappps> hah
[05:06] <daftykins> ugh 28 on the BBC weather app predicted for today
[06:01] <mappps> hah
[06:01] <mappps> daftykins,  how is the weather normally there
[06:22] <knightwise> morning peeps
[07:07] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:10] <popey> yo
[07:18] <mappps> morning popey
[07:19] <mappps> hows the south east?:) i was told it's rather hot, and i checked and woking's going to be 32c today!!
[07:21] <popey> I'm in Germany, so dunno :)
[07:39] <mappps> oh
[07:39] <mappps> guten tag:)
[07:58] <TwistedLucidity> o/
[08:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:08] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:40] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Tuesday, and happy Raspberry Cake Day! 😃
[08:47] <davmor2> JamesTait: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/8305118/prince_raspberry_beret/ the cake is a lie
[08:51] <JamesTait> Clever, davmor2. ☺
[08:51] <davmor2> JamesTait: I thought you'd like it :)
[12:08] <MooDoo> hello all
[12:08] <zmoylan-pi> i'd wave but it's too hot...
[12:11] <MooDoo> terrible isn't it :(
[12:12] <zmoylan-pi> humidity 61% which is less than usual so it could be far worse
[12:14] <MooDoo> don't worry though "Winter is coming" :)
[12:14] <zmoylan-pi> thursday if irish forecasts are to be believed... :-)
[12:45] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: no it's not it's a lovely 21°C and what humidity don't you just love an aircon unit
[12:54]  * zmoylan-pi casts out of warranty on davmor2's aircon...
[12:57] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: nope it's working fine :P
[13:00]  * zmoylan-pi checks the footnotes and observes it's a fail at 0200 in the morning spell... :-P
[13:02] <Myrtti> if anyone fancies pretty/cool flight/compression socks, http://nabeesocks.com/ has -50% due to moving manufacturing facilities.
[13:02] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: oh that is fine it is turned off then so the spell will fail muhahahahaha beside if it does I'll just go buy a new one :D
[13:03]  * zmoylan-pi licks thumb and flips the page to 'menopausal hot flashes spell'...
[14:01]  * davmor2 snaps zmoylan-pi wand so it back fires on him
[15:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[15:33] <popey> hello
[15:37] <davmor2> SebthreeBQM10HD: how do
[15:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> davmor2, I am ok,  just trying to sort out the venue for an event I am hoping to organise and probably for Linux Presentation Day as well
[15:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> how about you?
[15:38] <davmor2> mostly tired
[15:38] <davmor2> but good
[15:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> davmor2, where about's are you in UK?
[15:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> didn't you do stuff on Ubuntu Touch as well?
[15:48] <davmor2> Yeap in the UK Wolverhampton
[15:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and you did Ubuntu Touch?
[15:48] <davmor2> I work on all things I'm in the QA team
[15:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok cool :)
[15:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> davmor2, I got a great idea for an event :), but getting venue sorted out first properly etc
[15:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> then i guess maybe get a few people from else where to come as well
[15:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> if goes to plan enough :)
[15:58] <davmor2> good luck
[16:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> davmor2, may even show some UBuntu convergence and such at the event :d,  oh sure that may not be quite ready for general public, but could be worth having at an event ?
[19:01] <diddledan_> bananarama
[19:03] <zmoylan-pi> banana hammock
[19:04] <diddledan_> :-o
[19:04] <diddledan_> you pervert
[19:05] <daftykins> i now imagine zmoylan-pi as the aged version of "The Todd" from Scrubs
[19:06] <zmoylan-pi> the famous pain scale scene...
[19:07] <zmoylan-pi> great show...
[19:10] <davmor2> diddledan_: just came across this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTii7i-195E
[19:10] <daftykins> one does not simply cover Phil Collins!
[19:11] <davmor2> daftykins: no one has to do it damned well and this isn't the one I was looking for either :)
[21:02] <diddledan_> davmor2: that's good
[23:10] <daftykins> you're a spy!
[23:10] <daftykins> D:
[23:11] <zmoylan-pi> i believe the correct term these days is an informer...