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hikikoHi05:22
qenghoHi hi.05:22
robert_ancellmorning all05:54
qenghohiya, ra05:59
dufluMorning to Europe and visitors to Europe06:24
dufluAnd Africa06:25
dufluIt's official I have too many test peripherals on this desk06:27
dufluHmm, Unity7 login failure fixed on yakkety but still waiting for a fix in the live images... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/06:40
dufluSo live Ubuntu doesn't work today06:40
dufluI guess a new image is only hours away06:41
duflucimi: Out of curiosity what hardware are you using to test Unity8?06:43
Laneyyo06:49
qengho'sup06:52
Laneywest side06:53
pittitedg: find ... | xargs sed -i '/^ExecStart/ s/$/\nRestart=on-failure/'06:53
seb128hey desktopers06:57
hikikohi seb128 and qengho and robert_ancell_ and duflu and Laney and pitti (end of scroll up :p)07:11
pittio/07:12
duflu\o07:12
qengho-o-07:12
duflumOm07:12
duflum m07:12
Laney^_^07:19
dufluAnyone know what changed with dbus/dbus menus in yakkety?07:51
dufluhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/160470407:51
ubot5Launchpad bug 1604704 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "[regression] GTK apps hang for a very long time on start-up under Xmir and Mir failing to find dbus" [Undecided,New]07:51
willcookemorning all08:07
hikikomorning willcooke08:10
pittitedg: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/dbus/08:17
Trevinhomorning follks08:33
willcookehowdy Trevinho08:33
Laneyhi willcooke et Trevinho08:34
Trevinhosalut you meant08:34
Laneycoucou08:34
Trevinho:D08:34
seb128hey Trevinho willcooke hikiko08:36
willcookedid you guys see the question from duflu earlier, about this:08:36
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/160470408:36
ubot5Launchpad bug 1604704 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "[regression] GTK apps hang for a very long time on start-up under Xmir and Mir failing to find dbus" [Undecided,New]08:36
seb128I saw the bug08:36
seb128gtk or dbus didn't change in yakkety afaik08:37
seb128also mir/xmir I've no clue how to even test that08:37
dufluI should add some test cases...08:38
seb128that would be useful08:40
seb128gtk didn't change08:41
seb128did mir change?08:41
seb128when did that delay thing start?08:41
Trevinhomir always changes :-)08:42
dufluYes, but hopefully Mir and Xmir never touch dbus yet....08:43
pittitedg: busctl call org.freedesktop.systemd1 /org/freedesktop/systemd1 org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager ListUnitFiles08:46
dufluSomething is wired into GTK to go searching for a dbus when it shouldn't. Is that menus?08:47
seb128could be08:49
seb128but why shouldn't be using dbus?08:49
seb128what is concerning is that it tries to contact another bus that the actual one08:50
dufluseb128: because the same bug applies to native Mir shells (which have no busses)08:50
seb128what is the value of DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS ?08:50
dufluseb128: I think it's confused by DISPLAY=:1 (Xmir) but the session bus was create by and for Unity808:50
pittitedg: gdbus call --session -d org.freedesktop.systemd1 -o /org/freedesktop/systemd1 -m org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.ListUnitFiles08:51
dufluseb128: There is no DBUS_* environment. I'm logged in to ssh08:51
dufluBut might try08:51
seb128that might be the issue08:54
dufluseb128: Yep setting that fixes the problem in Unity8. In Mir demo shells however there is no bus so no correct address to set08:56
seb128I guess $things could handle better no dbus08:57
seb128but having no session bus is not a normal env nowadays08:57
dufluseb128: Sure, but it used to work :)08:58
seb128can you get a bt of the hang?08:58
seb128it might tell us what code is doing a sync call08:58
dufluIt's only when dbus finds $DISPLAY that it hangs. But I need to focus on other things right now08:58
seb128k08:58
seb128but yeah, it behaves differently08:59
dufluseb128: Not assuming $DISPLAY uniquely identifies the login or session bus any more would solve it sufficiently09:01
dufluAlthough you then have to assume $USER has a single login instead09:01
seb128it's something somebody should look at I guess09:02
seb128but everybody is busy so I don't think that happening any time soon09:02
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Laneypitti: http://people.canonical.com/~laney/patch-dump/0001-Die-if-the-XDG-session-we-were-started-under-goes-aw.patch09:25
andyrockgood morning09:39
willcookehey andyrock09:40
seb128pitti, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=130330010:38
ubot5bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1303300 in samba "gvfsd-smb-browse causes 100% CPU usage" [Unspecified,New]10:38
seb128pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/140903210:39
ubot5Launchpad bug 1409032 in samba (Ubuntu) "gvfsd-smb: very high CPU utilisation" [High,Confirmed]10:39
willcookeSeem to be hit by this today:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-3684471211:11
Sweet5harkoh, a tornado warning for my city for tomorrow!11:18
willcookenice11:19
=== hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln
=== hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko
* Laney has made it to le airport15:47
willcookehappy trails Laney15:51
Laneythe flight takes 15 minutes15:51
Laneyohhohoh15:52
pittiLaney: it's spelled "Luchthaven"15:52
seb128seems like I didn't restart IRC after reboot!17:22
willcookenight all, see you next week17:33
seb128mitya57, question for you, do you know how qt4 decide what theming to use? we are looking at using systemd for user session in yakkety and with it and dbus-user-session enabled qt code looks like win9517:43
seb128qt5 looks fine17:43
seb128I don't see anything in the env that looks like it could be it17:43
seb128so wondering if it's poking on dbus or something17:43
mitya57seb128, I think it checks for $DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome or non-empty $GNOME_SESSION_DESKTOP_ID17:45
mitya57http://sources.debian.net/src/qt4-x11/4:4.8.7%2Bdfsg-8/src/gui/kernel/qapplication_x11.cpp/#L234617:45
seb128mitya57, thanks, DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome makes it work but that's not it because from my "env" call in each it was not defined under upstart either17:47
seb128or rather it was DESKTOP_SESSION=ubuntu17:47
seb128for both17:47
seb128they also have GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated17:47
mitya57This one should work, the check is only for non-emptinness17:47
mitya57Btw, yay for systemd sessions ;)17:48
seb128I must have done my "env" wrong before17:48
seb128it' s unset now17:48
seb128thanks!17:48

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