[00:00] <mate|31880> Alright then, I certainly do. And  how much can I learn with Ubuntu MATE?
[00:01] <ouroumov> A lot
[00:02] <ouroumov> What do you want to learn about? How to use an Ubuntu-based system?
[00:03] <mate|31880> Yes, that. And everything about linux but first ubuntu.
[00:06] <ouroumov> Well, you should definitively read the forums. If you only browse random topics in the support category ( https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/support ) you're sure to learn quite a lot
[00:07] <ouroumov> Also in the tutorials category: https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/tips-tricks-and-tutorials
[00:07] <ouroumov> (Actually, start with that one)
[00:09] <ouroumov> hm
[00:12] <mate|31880> Well, ouroumov. I have to go and again...thanks!
[00:13] <ouroumov> yw mate|31880
[00:31] <think> Hello
[00:32] <ouroumov> hi think
[00:33] <fifty-sevenC> hi
[00:33] <think> i like MATE, but, some know how can change start menu?
[00:33] <ouroumov> Change how?
[00:33] <fifty-sevenC> MATE Tweak?
[00:34] <think> mete Tweak!, i check now!
[00:35] <think> thank you fifty!
[00:35] <fifty-sevenC> np
[02:03] <rahtgaz>  /disconnect -all
[02:25] <Guest76539> hello friends I have an issue with my screen on ubuntuMATE for raspberry pi 3 model B
[02:25] <Guest76539> the screen fades randomly
[02:25] <randall> sleep mode?
[02:26] <sergioad> no, it turns black and them it is restored
[02:28] <randall> failed screen saver mode, my desktop does it too
[02:28] <sergioad> i see
[02:29] <sergioad> the strange thing is tha it occurs randomly even when the mate menu opens
[02:30] <randall> are you messing with it when it does it?
[02:31] <sergioad> it does not locks the screen
[02:31] <randall> but are you messing with it when it does it?
[02:36] <sergioad> I do not understand you randall
[02:36] <sergioad> i DO NOT SPEAK English natively
[02:37] <sergioad> pardon me
[02:37] <sergioad> I accidentally enabled caps lock
[02:47] <sergioad> do you know how to avoid that brightness and screen issues?
[02:47] <sergioad> I forgot to mention that the issue also involves brightness issues
[02:59] <pi01> hi
[06:08] <creep> I need to install python-wxgtk2.8 to run pronterface problerly. If I run python-wxgtk3.0 it is causing issues
[06:08] <creep> Hi
[06:19] <fifty-sevenC> There is no 2.8
[06:21] <fifty-sevenC> You can try this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/python-wxgtk2.8
[06:21] <fifty-sevenC> it isn't maintained by Canonical, and might break anything requiring 3.0
[06:24] <creep> I see... this is very unsatisfieing.
[06:25] <fifty-sevenC> It probably won't break anything but 2.8 was last supported in 14.04
[06:26] <fifty-sevenC> oo was last supported 15.10
[06:27] <fifty-sevenC> So try the appropriate .deb file for your arch
[06:27] <fifty-sevenC> Probably amd64
[06:36] <zachattack419> Any idea of a good pdf view that allows pinch and zome on a  surface pro?
[08:38] <gerd> Bei der Aktualisierung erhielt ich die Fehlermeldung >>Fehler:BrokenCount >0<<. Wie bekomme ich diese wieder weg? Mit apt-get komme ich nicht weiter.
[08:57] <alkisg> gerd: english?
[09:08] <gerd> When you upgrade (Ubuntu had installed) I received the error massage >>BrokenC​ount>0<<. How do I get this under control? Whith >>apt-get install-f<< I am stuck.
[09:23] <fifty-sevenC> sudo apt-get install --fix-broken
[09:23] <fifty-sevenC> gerd,
[09:34] <gerd> fifty-sevenC: Then I will ask the terminal for a password. But I can not enter my access password for ubuntu and not get ahead.
[09:38] <alkisg> gerd: this command gives you root access: sudo -i
[09:39] <alkisg> It will ask for your password. While typing it, you will not see asterisks (*). If you can't get root access, you cannot fix things.
[09:55] <gerd> This is the result: So still error - (Lese Datenbank ... 219577 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
[09:55] <gerd> Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../linux-image-4.4.0-31-generic_4.4.0-31.50_i386.deb ...
[09:55] <gerd> This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU.
[09:55] <gerd> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten des Archivs /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.4.0-31-generic_4.4.0-31.50_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:55] <gerd>  Unterprozess neues pre-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück
[09:55] <gerd> Examining /etc/kernel/postrm.d .
[09:55] <gerd> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs-tools 4.4.0-31-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-31-generic
[09:55] <gerd> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub 4.4.0-31-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-31-generic
[09:55] <gerd> Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
[09:55] <gerd>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.4.0-31-generic_4.4.0-31.50_i386.deb
[09:55] <gerd> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:01] <alkisg> gerd: what cpu do you have? is it an old laptop?
[10:04] <alkisg> gerd: what's the output of this command? egrep 'model name|flags' /proc/cpuinfo
[10:09] <t3kg33k> Greetings all
[10:10] <t3kg33k> alt+1
[10:10] <alkisg> Hello
[12:34] <gerd> alkisg: I have CPU Intel Pentium M 1,7 GHZ, Memory Base  640 KB, Extended 523264 KB, Cach (Ext) 2048 KB. Is that enough to ubuntu?
[14:39] <wangjunying_> hello everyone
[14:39] <wangjunying_> anybody here?
[14:46] <Akuli> yes
[14:47] <wangjunying_> hello
[14:47] <wangjunying_> could we talk in Chinese?
[14:48] <Akuli> i dont know chinese
[14:49] <Akuli> i mean, i don't speak chinese
[14:50] <saifulaffendy> hi guys
[14:51] <saifulaffendy> guys???
[14:51] <wangjunying_> okay
[14:51] <Akuli> hi saifulaffendy
[14:52] <saifulaffendy> who have problem with bluetooth ???
[14:52] <saifulaffendy> ubuntu-mate 16.04
[14:52] <saifulaffendy> hi Akuli
[14:55] <wangjunying_> i found that the raspberry 3b's wifi didn't work well
[14:56] <saifulaffendy> who use ubuntu 16.04???
[14:56] <wangjunying_> if it stay a little far away from my Router,it doesn't work
[14:57] <wangjunying_> I don't use it
[14:59] <wangjunying_> BUT I use its Chinese version
[14:59] <wangjunying_> ubuntu Kylin
[15:00] <saifulaffendy> guys???
[15:00] <Akuli> yes?
[15:00] <wangjunying_> here
[15:00] <Akuli> last time i used bluetooth i was on 14.04 and everything worked great
[15:00] <saifulaffendy> im news
[15:01] <saifulaffendy> which build u use new Akuli
[15:01] <saifulaffendy> which build u use now Akuli
[15:01] <saifulaffendy> ???
[15:01] <Akuli> this system is still 14.04, and will be 14.04 until its support ends
[15:01] <Akuli> or maybe i'll move to another distro at some point
[15:02] <saifulaffendy> oh i see
[15:02] <saifulaffendy> what other distro do you more prefer to choose in future???
[15:02] <Akuli> my laptop runs devuan and i'm very happy with it
[15:03] <Akuli> but i won't install it on this system, unless i figure out how to set up a mobile broadband connection
[15:04] <saifulaffendy> now im using mobile data tethering from my adriod device
[15:04] <saifulaffendy> using easytether pro patch
[15:06] <saifulaffendy> Akuli???
[15:07] <Akuli> i have no idea what they are :)
[15:07] <saifulaffendy> are u andriod user???
[15:07] <saifulaffendy> i can teach  u
[15:07] <Akuli> no, i still don't have a smartphone :D
[15:08] <Akuli> when i'll get one i probably want an ubuntu phone
[15:08] <ouroumov> saifulaffendy, can you please limit yourself to a single question mark when you ask a question?
[15:08] <Akuli> :)
[15:09] <saifulaffendy> owh i see now...wow nice to know there are who use ubuntu on phone
[15:09] <saifulaffendy> sorry ouroumov about that ...it my habit ...
[15:10] <Akuli> i think you can't install it on a normal android phone, and you need one made for ubuntu
[15:10] <ouroumov> I'm using Ubuntu on my phone right now (BQ Aquaris E5)
[15:10] <ouroumov> I like having regular updates.
[15:12] <saifulaffendy> from now on i will explore more about how to change andriod to other linux distro...
[15:12] <ouroumov_> Damn I'd forgot to turn off my phone's hotspot
[15:12] <Akuli> you probably can't install whatever you want on an android phone
[15:12] <saifulaffendy> ourounov why dont u just use andriod?
[15:13] <Akuli> or maybe you could.. but its going to be hard
[15:13] <saifulaffendy> why Akuli? have u try ?
[15:13] <ouroumov_> saifulaffendy, because Android is a mess regarding security updates
[15:13] <Akuli> i like to have an operating system that i can explore, and i know how it works
[15:13] <ouroumov_> saifulaffendy, just google "stagefright vuln" and you'll see what I mean
[15:13] <Akuli> android and windows aren't exactly like that to me
[15:14] <wangjunying_> Chinese  mobilephone company Meizu have sold ubuntu phone
[15:14] <wangjunying_> Meizu pro5
[15:15] <ouroumov_> Yes
[15:17] <saifulaffendy> wow Meizu pro5 64 gb c0st about 648 sgd
[15:18] <wangjunying_> is it expensive?
[15:19] <saifulaffendy> yeah !!! when it convert to my contry curency it about 1900+-
[15:20] <saifulaffendy> but it spec so good and powerfull
[15:22] <ouroumov_> Yeah it's about 550€ in France. It's the price of a mid-range laptop.
[15:23] <alkisg> In case gerd comes back: yup, his system is fine for Ubuntu, he just needs to put forcepae in the kernel cmdline.
[15:27] <wangjunying_> in china it just sell 2499 rmb
[16:30] <odroid> hi to everyone
[16:31] <odroid> hi to everyone
[16:31] <Akuli> hi odroid
[16:32] <odroid> does anbody know anything about ubuntu mate
[16:32] <SCHAAP137> sure
[16:32] <SCHAAP137> i'm using it as we speak, odroid
[16:32] <SCHAAP137> what do you want to know?
[16:32] <odroid> and about odroid c2
[16:33] <SCHAAP137> i'm not familiar with odroid, apart from your username
[16:33] <odroid> i have some problems with the plugns from chronium
[16:34] <SCHAAP137> if a plugin depends on Google Chrome functionality specifically, it might not work 100% with Chromium
[16:34] <odroid> flash plugin_
[16:35] <Akuli> you need chrome if you want to run the latest flash
[16:35] <Akuli> and you need a 64-bit operating system if you want to run the latest chrome
[16:35] <SCHAAP137> Google's Chrome comes bundles with its own Flash Plugin
[16:36] <SCHAAP137> but indeed, no i386 version anymore
[16:36] <odroid>  tried to download chrome but it keeps on telling me that the structure of the package is amd64 and it can-t work
[16:36] <SCHAAP137> that would mean your operating system is i386 / 32-bit
[16:36] <SCHAAP137> and indeed, it cannot handle amd64 stuff
[16:38] <odroid> The ODROID-C2 is a 64-b
[16:38] <odroid> http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php
[16:38] <SCHAAP137> the processor's capabilities, are independent from the operating system installed; you can have a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit capable CPU
[16:39] <SCHAAP137> ah, it's ARM as well
[16:39] <ouroumov> odroid, please type in a terminal: uname -a and give us the result
[16:40] <odroid> Linux odroid64 3.14.65-71 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jul 13 23:30:26 BRT 2016 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
[16:41] <ouroumov> So it's an ARM device
[16:41] <ouroumov> That's another problem
[16:41] <SCHAAP137> i doubt there is an aarch64 package for Chrome
[16:41] <Akuli> one option is to run a browser under wine
[16:41] <Akuli> its not ideal, but it works
[16:43] <odroid> do you know other browsers to play streaming well
[16:44] <Akuli> windows is pretty well supported, i've seen a tutorial of running wine in windows to watch flash videos
[16:44] <odroid> another problem is that software boutique doesn-t work
[16:44] <Akuli> uh..
[16:44] <Akuli> running firefox in wone
[16:44] <Akuli> not wine in windows
[16:44] <odroid> firefox doesn-t work
[16:45] <ouroumov> You should hate on the streaming websites, not the browser
[16:45] <odroid> when I launch it it starts correctly but then the window just shuts down
[16:46] <Akuli> have you ran it from a terminal to see what exactly fails?
[16:47] <odroid> no, i-m not that good i don-t know how to do it
[16:47] <Akuli> open a terminal, type firefox, press enter
[16:47] <ouroumov> ^^
[16:47] <Akuli> terminal commands are simple
[16:48] <odroid> it sounds easy
[16:48] <Akuli> just type the name of the file you want to run
[16:48] <Akuli> in this case /usr/bin/firefox, but just firefox is enough
[16:48] <ouroumov> (Because /usr/bin is a common PATH from programs)
[16:49] <odroid> segmentation fault is the answer
[16:49] <odroid> thank you for your tips
[16:50] <Akuli> thats weird, i wouldn't expect it to just segfault like that
[16:50] <Akuli> do other programs work?
[16:51] <odroid> all the ones that i tried are working, but i have had it for only two weeks
[16:52] <odroid> but many things are not working realy well
[16:53] <odroid> firefox, software boutique and flash plugins for chronium
[16:55] <ouroumov> odroid, do you have an apport crash report for that segfault?
[16:57] <odroid> what is it_
[16:57] <ouroumov> The popup that tells you that a program crashed.
[16:57] <ouroumov> I'm not sure firefox crashes are collected by that stuff though
[16:58] <odroid> in fact there is no popup
[17:00] <odroid> do you know if there-s another browser i can use
[17:01] <Akuli> chromium? :)
[17:11] <odroid> chromium work but not in a streaming site
[17:12] <odroid> because i can-t update flash plugin
[17:14] <teward> is Chrome an option?  You'd have to go download it and install it, but Chrome usually has an updated Flash (pepper flash) in it
[17:25] <odroid> i try download it but during installation  telling me that the structure of the package is amd64 and it can-t work
[17:26] <odroid> Linux odroid64 3.14.65-71 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jul 13 23:30:26 BRT 2016 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
[17:36] <Akuli> i don't understand why the architecture matters as much as it does
[17:36] <Akuli> i mean, its a web browser, why does it require a specific processor architecture
[17:37] <alkisg> Akuli: most (.deb) packages are compiled for specific architectures, afaik google chrome only provides packages for amd64
[17:37] <alkisg> So it's not possible to get it to run on arm without google adding support for it
[17:38] <Akuli> oh now i see.. its in compiled form so of course
[17:54] <ubuntu-mate> Hola
[17:54] <ubuntu-mate> Quiero pedirles un favor
[18:00] <nomic> .z..zz.
[18:52] <mate|95112> Hello there, could you please help resolve issue with dconf-editor. I want to edit the calendar/time format at the tray to show week number
[18:53] <mate|95112> but the indicator.datetime does not enable any changes, i enabled custom for time-format
[18:53] <mate|95112> but the changes do not come into effect
[18:53] <mate|95112> logged in and out, no success
[18:59] <Akuli> mate|95112, right-click your clock, settings
[19:00] <Akuli> oh, doesn't show a week number
[19:06] <mate|95112> Akuli, now it doesn't show week number in the tray (only inside the calendar), I would like it on the tray
[19:07] <Akuli> i'm reading through the source and trying to find the clock applet
[23:03] <jesse__> Installed Ubuntu Mate 16.04 want to use ROS?
[23:04] <jesse__> It looks like ROS cannot work here!
[23:06] <jesse__> I want to robot operating system on Ubuntu Mate!?
[23:07] <jesse__> Does anyone know anything about ROS?
[23:07] <ouroumov> Does ROS have a website?
[23:07] <jesse__> ros.org
[23:08] <ouroumov> Well
[23:09] <jesse__> ros.org
[23:09] <ouroumov> It looks to me like their installation guidelines are up to date for Xenial: http://wiki.ros.org/kinetic/Installation/Ubuntu
[23:09] <jesse__> using arm
[23:10] <jesse__> will check it out
[23:10] <ouroumov> Right
[23:10] <ouroumov> If it's aarch32 (rpi)? maybe that won't work
[23:10] <ouroumov> Not sure if armhf ~ aarch32, don't have a pi
[23:10] <jesse__> rasbian has been setup for ros
[23:10] <jesse__> jessie flavor
[23:11] <jesse__> Looks like I'll have to reinstall
[23:11] <ouroumov> Worse case, you'll have to build from source
[23:11] <jesse__> Too many packages
[23:11] <jesse__> Too much time
[23:12] <jesse__> Want to start out with the base
[23:12] <ouroumov> Alternatively, you may drop your pi down the nearest bin
[23:12] <jesse__> There are over 1000 packages
[23:13] <jesse__> I am using the pi as the sbc for the robot
[23:13] <jesse__> Have the remote computer already setup
[23:14] <jesse__> I here Udoo is great for that but I want to try pi firsat
[23:14] <jesse__> Any sbc like pi has to work on Ubuntu!?
[23:15] <jesse__> Any success from anyone?