[03:05] <hellslinger_> where can I download the system images for my aquaris m10 FHD? mine won't boot anymore and cache reset won't do the trick
[07:05] <mardy> jamesh: hi! Do you have any idea about this error? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/274063910/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.account-polld_0.1+16.04.20160627-0ubuntu6_BUILDING.txt.gz
[07:05] <mardy> jamesh: I get the same error locally, if I build with dpkg-buildpackage; however, pdebuild works -- I'm clueless
[07:05] <jamesh> I haven't touched account-polld since the very early days.  Looking though.
[07:08] <mardy> jamesh: it's not about the code, must be some dependency thingie
[07:11] <jamesh> mardy: it looks like a Go package that was provided by older versions of golang-ubuntu-push-dev but not the latest release
[07:13] <jamesh> mardy: yep.  Looking at the debdiff for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-push/0.68+16.10.20160718.4-0ubuntu1 the cblacklist package has been removed.
[07:13] <jamesh> that landed yesterday
[07:14] <mardy> jamesh: thanks a lot! I'll see if this package can be removed, or I'll file a bug
[07:15] <mardy> jamesh: ah, actually it was fixed on trunk already, silly me :-)
[07:44] <mardy> jamesh: do you have a project where you tear down and restart libqtdbus{test,mock} at every test, which I can use as an example? I can't seem to get it working, it crashes when I call startServices()
[07:47] <jamesh> mardy: we do in the thumbnailer test suite.
[07:47] <jamesh> mardy: e.g. this test suite does it in SetUp/TearDown: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/thumbnailer/trunk/view/head:/tests/dbus/dbus_test.cpp#L68
[07:48] <jamesh> mardy: the actual logic is wrapped up in a DBusServer helper class: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/thumbnailer/trunk/view/head:/tests/utils/dbusserver.cpp
[07:50] <mardy> jamesh: thanks!
[07:53] <sergiusens> oSoMoN https://support.google.com/recaptcha/?hl=en#6223828
[08:23] <jamesh> mardy: if you are adapting that code, the Shutdown() bit in the DBusServer destructor was there to help with coverage checking
[08:23] <jamesh> mardy: we found that killing the subprocess resulted in incomplete coverage data, while asking the subprocess to exit itself ensured the counters were updated
[08:24] <mardy> jamesh: OK, now I'm struggling with a much more basic issue, with startServices() crashing. Still debugging it...
[08:24] <mardy> jamesh: you are not using libqtdbusmock in that project, are you?
[08:25] <jamesh> mardy: no.  We were just using libqtdbustest to set up the private message bus and manage an instance of the server process
[09:14] <oSoMoN> ogra, seen bug #1604611 ?
[09:14] <ogra> oSoMoN, yes, mzanetti just pinged me a second before you
[09:15] <ogra> (in #ubuntu-ci-eng
[09:15] <ogra> )
[09:15] <mzanetti> yeah, sorry, not sure why I picked that channel...
[09:15] <mzanetti> wanted to hit app-devel, missed :D
[09:15] <ogra> heh, quite so
[09:18] <OhYash> hey
[09:18]  * ogra wonders if he should now click "this bug affects me" ... it kind of starts to ... :P
[09:19] <ogra> (waiting for the news article relating to that ... "Canonical employee lies to developer about app commandline options")
[09:20] <OhYash> wut
[09:21] <ogra> OhYash, a joke i made kind of went out of proportion due to the person i made it to not understanding it is a joke ... https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg21542.html
[09:21] <ogra> bug 160461
[09:22] <ogra> oops
[09:22] <ogra> bug 1604611
[09:22] <OhYash> haha
[09:22] <ogra> :)
[09:23] <OhYash> Will surely try that argument once I get ubuntu touch ;)
[09:23] <ogra> heh
[09:24] <OhYash> Um, I got a question.
[09:25] <ogra> ask away
[09:27] <OhYash> I've never ported android/cm to any device before and now Ubuntu touch is here and its amazing. I, sadly cant buy one now and dont have any device it supports. So, the option left is porting myself. I read the porting guide, it's old (I guess same from 2013), does it still work? What all guides do I need to follow to get my first port, also where do I start? Thanks
[09:29] <popey> OhYash: start on ubuports from mariogrip
[09:31] <OhYash> popey: They got a guide? or do I chat with them?
[09:31] <ogra> both ...
[09:31] <popey> https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/Home
[09:32] <ogra> there is a wiki and forum on ubports
[09:32] <popey> but there seem to be broken links
[09:32] <popey> mariogrip: ping!
[09:32] <popey> ^
[09:32] <ogra> and mariogrip is usually around here
[09:33] <OhYash> https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/Porting-to-new-device gives me 404. Useful wiki :D
[09:35] <ogra> i guess that is what popey meant with broken links
[09:36] <mariogrip> popey: i had some problems with the forum, working on getting it up and running again
[09:36] <mariogrip> Wiki**
[09:38] <OhYash> mariogrip: Thanks, *waits*. I thought I'd have to poke the devs time to time.
[11:18] <mardy> pete-woods: hi! I wonder if you have seen something like this before? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/online-accounts-api/+bug/1603706/comments/4
[13:14] <dondel0> hi all, how do you install an app in the puritine container on the phone?
[13:15] <dondel0> libertine-container-manager install-package --id puritine --package geany (tells me i need to be root, and i run with sudo it tells me NOT TO USE SUDO)
[13:16] <dondel0> Please do not run libertine-container-manager using sudo
[13:17] <mardy> jamesh: 'morning (for when you are back) :-) Do you mind adding this to your silo? https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/online-accounts-api/daemon-coverage/+merge/300593
[13:18] <mardy> jamesh: about the Shutdown method, I think we don't need it, since we have this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~online-accounts/online-accounts-api/trunk/view/head:/src/lib/OnlineAccountsDaemon/manager.cpp#L599
[13:26] <lars_> Hey, someone achieved installing the ubuntu-sdk on a non-ubuntu machine? I wanted to install it on arch, created an ubuntu chroot, but at the very end I couldn't create any kits with ubuntu-sdk...
[13:29] <ogra_> lars_, there is some work going on to provide the SDK as a snap package, but that is far from ready i think
[13:29] <ogra_> (that would allow you to run it on any distro)
[13:29] <popey> I've run it under docker
[13:29] <popey> on arch
[13:29] <popey> but yes, the click chroot parts fails
[13:30] <dondel0> ogra_, welp :( can't install geany in the puritine container on the phone
[13:30] <dondel0> ogra_, libertine-container-manager install-package --id puritine --package geany (tells me i need to be root, and i run with sudo it tells me NOT TO USE SUDO)
[13:31] <ogra_> dondel0, well, file a bug and attach all info yu have
[13:31] <dondel0> maybe it's not a bug, maybe i'm doing something stupid :D
[13:31] <dondel0> i was trying to first check if i'm just stupid :P
[13:31] <lars_> ogra_, popey, with the click chroot part failing,I don't have possibility to build it, have I?
[13:34] <popey> lars_: to build an armhf binary app?
[13:35] <popey> no, you wont be able to
[13:35] <popey> i dont know a solution
[13:35] <dondel0> ogra_,   Yes, you cannot add any additional packages in the Puritine container.  You'll need to create a new container and then install packages in it.
[13:36] <dondel0> so looks like i need to make a new vivid chroot, yay thanks all!
[13:36] <dondel0> bye
[13:36] <ogra_> dondel0, i dont actually use the purtine container ...
[13:36] <dondel0> oh
[13:36] <dondel0> but how?
[13:36] <dondel0> never mind
[13:36] <ogra_> i just created one
[13:36] <dondel0> you are level 1000+
[13:36] <ogra_> nah
[13:36] <dondel0> i'm just level 3 at linux :d
[13:36] <dondel0> oh :d i have puritine preinstalled
[13:36] <ogra_> libertine-container-manager create is your friend
[13:36] <dondel0> yep
[13:36] <ogra_> yeah, me too
[13:37] <ogra_> i just ignore it
[13:37] <dondel0> i'll make a new one called unicorn
[13:37] <ogra_> :)
[13:38] <dondel0> oh, sorry i red that you _use_ the puritine contaier :D
[13:38] <lars_> popey, ok bit sad :P let's see what to do, maybe install alongside arch on a small partition, no idea
[13:38] <ogra_> snappy will fix that (one day) :)
[13:38] <dondel0> and cancer :D
[13:38] <dondel0> probably
[13:44] <lars_> popey, in case you might know, can I easily install ubuntu after already having installed arch? like, I would like to create a new partition of my extented partion, like, split a piece of it apart
[13:48] <ecsi> Hi!
[13:48] <ecsi> OTA 12 release date?
[13:48] <davmor2> ecsi: soon
[13:49] <ecsi> when?
[13:49] <ecsi> today?
[13:49] <davmor2> ecsi: soon and not today
[13:50] <ecsi> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-12-to-land-next-wednesday-ota-13-brings-libertine-improvements-506215.shtml
[13:50] <ogra_> talk to softpedia ;)
[13:51] <ogra_> there will be an announcement on the mailing list once it goes out
[13:51] <ogra_> thats probbly the better source for getting reliable infos
[15:24] <mimecar> good evening
[17:14] <NeKit> Hello. https://github.com/rilmodem/ofono has code for MTK Helio X20 ("Midori" device) as "MTK2" plugin
[17:14] <NeKit> any idea if Helio X10 is more similar to MTK or MTK2?
[17:17] <altker128> Anyone here using the Nokia HERE app for Ubuntu Touch?
[17:18] <altker128> davmor2: Just curious, will OTA-12 have any day-to-day performance improvements, or it mostly libertine, etc?
[18:57] <Acou_Bass> im curious about ota-12 too but im wondering if itll bring miracast to other devices like my nexus 4? :D
[18:58] <davmor2> altker128: there are a whole bunch of bugs fixed
[18:59] <altker128> davmor2: OK, cool.  About to ship some test Nexus4s that have OTA-11, I'll wait for OTA-12 .
[18:59] <davmor2> Acou_Bass: no it's kernel is too old and doesn't support aethercast
[18:59] <Acou_Bass> ahh shame
[18:59] <Acou_Bass> could that feasably be fixed or are we looking at too much work?
[19:00] <altker128> Acou_Bass: I'm guessing that part of the challenge is Miracast/Ethercast benefits from real-time compression of the display, which is done by the power hungry H.264 CODEC.  I think newer SoCs have H.264 encoders in HW
[19:00] <davmor2> Acou_Bass: we don't control the kernels that was done by Google for the nexus4 so we are stuck
[19:01] <davmor2> altker128: no it is mostly just driver support in theory we could right one if the hardware supported it but mako is 4 years old and just doesn't
[19:02] <altker128> davmor2: Have you used the Ubuntu Nokia HERE app?  Is it a web-app, or like iOS/Android, can it store maps offline?
[19:03] <davmor2> altker128: it is a web app, unav can download maps but they are now greyscale due to licensing on the services side but it works well
[19:03] <davmor2> altker128: also it gives turn by turn nav
[19:03] <altker128> davmor2: uNav I think can't do offline routing, even though the map storage is offline
[19:03] <davmor2> altker128: here maps will store preferred route online
[19:04] <dobey> Acou_Bass: it could be fixed if the nexus4 image switched to android 5 base, but there are no plans to do so, afaik
[19:04] <davmor2> altker128: pass on that one of the devs might be on here to confirm though
[19:04] <altker128> davmor2: Do you know if there's a non-webapp planed for HERE ?  It's overall a great app, but offline navigation is key
[19:04] <davmor2> altker128: that would be up to nokia
[19:04] <dobey> or maybe nexus4 just doesn't have the hardware, not sure
[19:05] <dobey> i thought HERE was a mix between native app, with an embedded web view for the map itself
[19:06] <dobey> unav should still be able to do color maps
[19:06] <davmor2> dobey: might be I thought it was just a webapp
[19:06] <dobey> just can't use the mapquest ones any more without paying $$$$$
[19:07] <davmor2> dobey: yes unfortunately most of the other tiles are crap so they went with the best mapping experience they could find
[19:08] <davmor2> dobey: the devs I think are still looking but less of a priority now they have a solution :)
[19:09] <dobey> there are some decent ones
[19:10] <dobey> the ones from uni-heidelberg.de are pretty nice, actually
[19:10] <dobey> stock osm isn't too bad either, but can seem a bit "dense"
[19:10] <altker128> I think the issues are maps (which OSM provides), geocoding (address to lat/long) and routing/re-routing
[19:11] <altker128> Maybe someone could port OSMAND or use that as a starting point since it does all three offline
[19:11] <altker128> (and is open-source)
[19:11] <dobey> actually, OSM has bits for all three
[19:13] <altker128> One would hope the unav dev could then make use of all of that.  Caching/using tiles rather than rendering locally from vector database isn't so scalable :/
[19:13] <altker128> Would love to contribute $$ for the development of that.
[19:19] <dobey> rendering locally from vector database?
[19:20] <altker128> dobey: uNav getting features that HERE for iOS and Android has which are : 100% offline routing, 100% offline navigation, rendering map data locally, dynamic re-routing, etc.
[19:37] <dobey> ok, well i've never used HERE on any platform really, so i don't know what HERE may or may not do.
[20:01] <altker128> dobey: I don't know if you have a spare Android or iOS device lying around, but it's really worth taking a look.  I've worked on and used GPS nav apps for > 15 yrs, and HERE gets most of it right.  It's only missing on-the-fly re-routing to a gas station, and multi-point routes.  Other than that, it's quite superb.  Even supports offline routing on mass transit systems across the world!
[21:08] <NeKit> where can I find device-specific ofono configs?
[21:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[21:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> anyone about?