[00:18] <daftykins> i think a breeze is coming through at last!
[00:22] <zmoylan-pi> lightning on west coast of ireland according to irish chatroom...
[00:22] <daftykins> ooh
[00:24] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: did you have to dig out the shorts? :>
[00:24] <zmoylan-pi> it's a geeky chatroom were they can measure the rain by the degradation of their radio links for data...
[00:25] <daftykins> yaaaay
[00:25] <daftykins> what kind of data o0
[00:25] <zmoylan-pi> nah, i was covered up today.  i did leave front of my fleece almost unzipped.  sweaty when i got home but i prefer to sweat than lie in bed at night trying not to touch bed with sunburnt skin
[00:26] <zmoylan-pi> they provice internet via microwave links
[00:27] <daftykins> ah
[00:27] <zmoylan-pi> been irish if the moon shines too bright i get moonburn...
[00:27] <daftykins> :D
[00:28] <zmoylan-pi> lots of people were walking about shirtless who are now probably whimpering lying in bed now
[00:31] <daftykins> mmm i don't go in for the lazy act of sunbathing
[00:31] <daftykins> i just hung about indoors in shorts
[00:31] <daftykins> just stepped outside, nice breeze and i can see the full moon!
[04:31] <daftykins> good morning team
[05:39] <mapps> hi'
[05:39] <mapps> alll hot and sticky again ugh
[05:43] <daftykins> eww
[05:43] <daftykins> finally cooled down enough for a shower here
[05:44] <mapps> ;]
[05:44] <mapps> got my fan on but just feel sweaty and hot
[05:44] <mapps> ughh
[05:44] <mapps> hear how trains stopped in the uk.melted tracks
[05:44] <mapps> O_o
[05:46] <daftykins> yeah, i don't get how they have such low tolerances
[05:46] <daftykins> 50 deg C and they're bad? wat
[05:48] <mapps> ya i was surprised
[05:54] <daftykins> ah, only a few pages left of a book \o/
[05:56] <daftykins> dunno whether to sleep or try a little work
[05:56] <daftykins> still fixing up some old PCs :) almost done now
[06:06] <knightwise> hey daftykins
[06:07] <daftykins> good morning sir
[06:15] <knightwise> workin on some old hardware I see ?
[06:16] <daftykins> yeah, since i did my lovely skylake build i'm selling off my core 2 quad to a friend - and also come to possess a few more core 2 duo era machines
[06:16] <daftykins> been fixing them up / finding faults and considering selling on via a local trade site
[06:20] <knightwise> Running linux on 'em ?
[06:22] <daftykins> no
[06:23] <daftykins> might list it as an option for sale, but i don't think folk would spring for them so much that way
[06:24] <daftykins> i wouldn't fancy the support ;)
[06:25] <daftykins> just got a DVD writer on order, as right now one has a rather ugly white PATA drive which no longer reads CDs in it
[06:43] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:46] <MooDoo> morning
[06:56] <diplo> Morning all
[06:56] <diplo> What a week to start exercising more often! need a shower at work at this rate :P
[07:06] <daftykins> diplo: haha oh dear! what form of exercise? sprint to work? ;)
[07:14] <diplo> Everything, I've been cycling, swimming, jogging and walking
[07:14] <diplo> So cycle to and from work ( and other times ) walk 1-2 miles at lunch, jog a little later on, swim as and when  Ican
[07:16] <MooDoo> diplo: ah so you're playing pokemon go ;)
[07:17] <diplo> No!!!!!!
[07:17] <diplo> God no even!
[07:18] <diplo> When I'm on my walks, the amount of people who just stop randomly and flick their screens, pretty sure they're all playing....
[07:18] <diplo> Good on them I guess for getting out, but the random stop starts is getting quite annoying
[07:19] <daftykins> *Tux no ;)
[07:20] <daftykins> yeah, it's only a matter of time i reckon before someone stops in their car and nobbles a cyclist
[07:25] <diplo> I was out drinking last night, some guy swooped to a stop as we were wandering down a busy road, picked his phone ( i thought for a phone call ) no, my mate says he heard the distinctive noise of how you catch these things ( I've not played so don't know ! )
[07:26] <diplo> But I mean he stopped fairly stupidly, for a bloomin game!
[07:28] <daftykins> such was the thrill of the chase
[07:28] <daftykins> did he have a deer stalker on?
[07:28] <daftykins> ;]
[07:32] <diplo> hah
[08:11] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:12] <MooDoo> hello davmor2
[08:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Moon Day! 😃  🌜
[08:23] <MooDoo> morning
[08:23] <foobarry> day off \o/
[08:24] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu7AR0-FRro and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B32yjbCSVpU
[08:26] <davmor2> JamesTait: I could also quote the titles of the OST for werewolf in London definitely some moon songs there :)
[08:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: including this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmEGm-mraE
[08:30] <daftykins> foobarry: aww and you still came to hang out!
[08:32] <JamesTait> davmor2, Cat's in the Cradle though - I haven't listened to that in years!
[08:33] <davmor2> JamesTait: you're welcome
[08:33] <davmor2> JamesTait: every chorus sings man in the moon :D
[08:34] <JamesTait> Little Boy Blue and ...
[08:41] <MooDoo> :)
[08:50]  * daftykins slides everyone a cuppa
[08:52]  * TwistedLucidity inspects cuppa...discovers it is not ice coffee...slides it back...
[08:53] <daftykins> i'll have you know that's Thailand's finest!
[08:54] <daftykins> lul, i'm installing Windows 10 on a core 2 duo machine, on my old 150GB WD velociraptor
[08:54] <daftykins> it sounds like millions of bugs are fighting at once
[08:55] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: it's okay leave long enough it will go cold you can drink it then
[09:20] <zmoylan-pi>  
[09:31] <foobarry> yeah daftykins i#m looking after the daughter at the mo
[09:31] <foobarry> but sometimes it gets dull when she's dressing up dollies
[09:31] <foobarry> trying to decide whether cheddar gorge caves or wookey hole for holiday
[09:31] <diplo> Anyone else being affected by bt issues today ?
[09:55] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: Just had an alert come through from work, BT are having issues nation wide. Affects those leasing BT lines too (i.e. everyone who isn't on Virgin)
[09:55] <daftykins> oof!
[09:56]  * zmoylan-pi licks finger, holds it in the air to judge conditions and predicts bt will blame the heat... :-)
[10:00] <diplo> Funny thing was ( this affected half our customers ) was that their lines were still up
[10:00] <diplo> Just the ipsec vpn's were failing to connect
[10:01] <diplo> Would love to know why
[10:02] <davmor2> diplo: just cause, that's why :)
[10:03] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: Yup, seems to be taking out VPNs
[10:04] <zmoylan-pi> the movie industry strikes back...
[10:04] <diplo> Ah right, at least it wasn't just me
[10:04] <daftykins> the good ol' Virtual Private Notwork
[10:07] <davmor2> diplo: possibly down to compression at my best guess if it only took out 1/2
[10:16] <diplo> Yeah, not really sure.. not sure how well BT talk about their major outages
[10:29] <daftykins> annoyed me when my local ISP and our major telco decided they would no longer maintain a status page
[10:30] <daftykins> they didn't seem to realise how many calls they'd spare themselves
[10:31] <zmoylan-pi> but the guy who monitored the web page can answer calls AND do stuff when he's not answering calls...
[10:31] <daftykins> :)
[10:34] <daftykins> i think today marks my 1 month no-going-to-Costa anniversary
[10:34] <daftykins> yes it does! \o/
[10:36] <foobarry> i managed 15 years of no costa
[10:36] <foobarry> similar for starbucks :D
[10:36] <daftykins> it's really been around that long?
[10:36] <daftykins> we don't have a starbucks :)
[10:38] <diplo> I don't go to either either
[10:38] <diplo> Unless with someone who wants to, can't understand how people spend so much on coffee!!!!
[10:38] <daftykins> for me, it's that they have a branch 20m from my front door
[10:38] <diplo> but you have coffee in your house ?
[10:39] <daftykins> wake up of a weekend and have nothing in the house? panino and coffee it is!
[10:39] <daftykins> not the same thing.
[10:39] <diplo> hah
[10:39] <zmoylan-pi> people spending as much money on coffee per day as do for mobile phone service for 2-3 months... Oo
[10:39] <daftykins> these are the downsides of living on the capital's high street
[10:40] <daftykins> oh i can certainly say i was never as insane as to go daily... once or twice a week was my limit :)
[10:49] <daftykins> also, it's all about the carrot cake
[11:03] <diplo> hehe, the cake is stupidly dear too
[11:03] <daftykins> does make you wonder what the entire thing pulls in, profit wise
[11:07] <daftykins> sometimes you've just got to go out and live a bit, though!
[11:07] <daftykins> ...so i'm told ;)
[11:07] <zmoylan-pi> like outdoors and stuff?!
[11:07] <daftykins> yeah!
[12:38] <diddledan_> looks like BT's issues were due to power problems at telecity in docklands
[12:39] <diddledan_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36844712
[12:39] <DJones> Thats what they say,  I blame everybody trying to do their hair with staighteners and hairdryers so they don't go crinkly in the heat
[12:40] <DJones> Thats using all the power
[12:41] <DJones> BT Openreach are pretty useless anyway, been waiting almost 10 days for them to come and fix a fault on our voice line, excuse is there's too many faults and not enough staff.....  Erm.. Isn't that part of the infrastucture planning
[12:42] <MooDoo> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36844712
[12:55] <zmoylan-pi> all those selfish people wanting to breath running air con...
[12:59] <zmoylan-pi> they might have been looking up what a voice line is... :-P
[13:00] <DJones> You'd think they'd know, its what spam callers use to send junk messages
[13:00] <DJones> Surely they pay BT to not be banned and prosecuted for ignoring TPS preferences
[13:00] <zmoylan-pi> if they knew what those were they'd have to do something about it
[13:01] <DJones> As in backhanders
[13:01] <zmoylan-pi> one way they get paid, the other they have more work and less paying
[13:41] <foobarry> does anyone know about bike brakes? i was wondering about the sizes of the barrel/nut that screws into the lever assembly
[13:41] <foobarry> its a junior 20 inch bike,
[13:42] <foobarry> one of these http://imgur.com/a/uJi6g
[15:19] <diddledan_> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/07/carbanak-gang-tied-to-russian-security-firm/
[15:50] <davmor2> foobarry: they aren't standard you would be better off buying a new or secondhand one for the part
[16:05] <m0nkey_> Grace Hopper explaining a Nano second.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEpsKnWZrJ8
[16:16] <diddledan_> nice
[16:16] <diddledan_> I want one
[16:16] <diddledan_> is there an official store for purchasing of nanoseconds?
[16:16] <m0nkey_> You could always make your own
[16:16] <m0nkey_> She gives the length
[16:16] <m0nkey_> 11.8 inches
[16:17] <diddledan_> never mind the length, feel the width
[16:17] <diddledan_> something about an actress and a bishop
[16:18] <diddledan_> how long is a picosecond then?
[16:19] <diddledan_> 0.3mm
[16:22] <diddledan_> google's conversion thingy can't grok the correlation
[16:23] <diddledan_> "1 picosecond in milimeters" it fails
[16:39] <Myrtti> Thunder and lightning
[16:44] <m0nkey_> Very, very frightening me!
[16:46] <m0nkey_> diddledan_, need your regex skill again
[16:47] <m0nkey_> from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost)
[16:47] <m0nkey_> need to get the word, localhost
[16:48] <m0nkey_> i thought helo=([^\)]*) might get it, but it doesn't
[16:51] <ali1234> str.strip().split('=')[1][:-1]
[16:51] <m0nkey_> needs to be regex
[16:52] <m0nkey_> the received header could also be from: computername ([x.x.x.x])
[16:52] <m0nkey_> I have a list of regex to test
[16:52] <m0nkey_> which is why regex
[16:54] <m0nkey_> nvm.. got it
[17:32] <m0nkey_> i hate regex
[20:35] <diddledan_> I made a thing: https://uappexplorer.com/app/unofficial-hexchat.diddledan
[20:36] <diddledan_> I'm using it right now
[20:36] <diddledan_> it works
[20:36] <diddledan_> \o/
[20:53] <daftykins> what's that site o0
[20:54] <daftykins> nm read the page :P
[20:54] <ball> daftykins: hamsterdance.com ?
[20:55] <daftykins> < diddledan_> I made a thing: https://uappexplorer.com/app/unofficial-hexchat.diddledan
[20:55] <daftykins> it would appear mr diddle of the dan made a snappy package for hexchat
[20:56] <diddledan_> I did :-)
[20:56] <diddledan_> and I'm in it now
[20:56] <daftykins> *gasp*
[21:19] <daftykins> i've got a box of 3 double chocolate magnum ice creams
[21:19] <daftykins> i think the shrinkening has occurred, because they're a ridiculous size :|
[21:26] <diddledan_> pokémon go has doubled nintendo's valuation making them more valuable than Sony
[21:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[21:59] <diddledan_> does the ubuntu community still use bazaar mostly?
[21:59] <diddledan_> e.g. the various maintainers
[21:59] <ali1234> depends how you define community
[22:00] <ali1234> a lot of the new fangled stuff is being done in git
[22:00] <ali1234> like snappy and juju
[22:00] <daftykins> how bazaar, how bazaar ~
[22:00] <ali1234> all the old stuff is still in bazaar because nobody got time to convert it
[22:00]  * diddledan_ boshes daftykins 
[22:00] <ali1234> launchpad supports git now though
[22:00]  * SebthreeBQM10HD thinks Ubuntu convergence is starting to look more interesting now
[22:01]  * SebthreeBQM10HD by certan videos that seen recently 
[22:02] <diddledan_> grr. I wish the encfs package would give alternative options rather than just telling you it is insecure when you install it
[22:02] <daftykins> diddledan_: DANGER DIDDLE ROBINSON!
[22:03] <ali1234> i'm having a word blank. what's the word that means "morally neutral"? as in "science is <morally neutral>, it depends how you use the results"
[22:03]  * diddledan_ diddles robinson
[22:03] <diddledan_> ambivalent?
[22:04] <ali1234> hmm... not really, but close
[22:04] <diddledan_> ambiguous :-p
[22:04] <ali1234> no :)
[22:04] <daftykins> indifferent
[22:04] <ali1234> doesn't really capture the moral aspect. i'm sure there's an exact word for this though
[22:05] <diddledan_> promiscuous
[22:05] <ali1234> lol
[22:06] <diddledan_> corrups
[22:06] <diddledan_> corrupt*
[22:07] <diddledan_> :-p
[22:07] <diddledan_> agnostic
[22:12] <diddledan_> uninvested
[22:13] <diddledan_> impartial
[22:13] <diddledan_> ^^^^^ that one
[22:14] <ali1234> impartial is good
[22:14] <ali1234> i mean a good word for it
[22:14] <diddledan_> unbiased would be another
[22:14] <ali1234> that's the same as impartial. it's still no exactly right though
[22:14] <diddledan_> clinical
[22:15] <diddledan_> indifferent
[22:15]  * diddledan_ has a thesaurus open
[22:15] <daftykins> a Brighton high school excluded some students for wearing shorts on the hottest day of the year
[22:15] <daftykins> good work schools :>
[22:16] <diddledan_> daftykins, they were girls who had been told to wear skirts short enough you can see their difference
[22:16] <daftykins> http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/14629093.Boys_excluded_from_lessons_after_wearing_shorts_on_hottest_day_of_the_year/?ref=mrb&lp=5
[22:16] <diddledan_> annoying that girls often get told they cannot wear trousers
[22:16] <daftykins> silly banner at the bottom to complain of adblocking usage, quick firefox inspection and 'node' deletion and bye bye!
[22:17] <ali1234> amoral
[22:17] <ali1234> that's it
[22:17] <diddledan_> aha
[22:17] <ali1234> that's the word i wanted
[22:17] <ali1234> "lacking a moral sense; unconcerned with the rightness or wrongness of something."
[22:32] <diddledan> hmm, my hexchat is dead
[22:32] <diddledan> :-(
[22:32] <diddledan> it's trying to call fchown syscall which is banned
[22:33]  * daftykins follows the support link
[22:33] <daftykins> :D
[22:33] <diddledan> lol
[22:35] <daftykins> i'm quite glad i finished dealing with all these PCs, i hope i don't end up having to give them away though :P
[22:51] <diddledan> \o/
[22:51] <diddledan> money hopefully
[22:52] <diddledan> they've been a pain for you so hopefully you can get a bit of a reward
[22:54] <daftykins> i was just daft enough to persist with ones that were wonky in the past really
[22:54] <daftykins> i've got 3 asus motherboards that are all funky in some shape or form, to the side of me